AndreiVoinea: hi
Oioi: Hi
Oioi: Is there a way to know which puzzles I already made ?
Oioi: More precisely, I would like to know which puzzles I began but didn't end
aCat: It's visible on the top of puzzle page in given category
aCat: but I'm not sure it's visible if you didn't submit (and get something < 100%) ;/
Oioi: ok, I try it, thanks
Oioi: It is visible, thanks again
thibpat: hi :wave: we're live, and we'll continue to work on the Twixt-PP challenge https://twitch.tv/thibpat
roodey75: Hi
WINWINWIN: Anyone here good wtih C#/
WINWINWIN: >
WINWINWIN: ?
AntiSquid: so how the hell am i supposed to format the answer for ss_n ?
WINWINWIN: ss_n?
AntiSquid: check this crap first :
https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/breach WINWINWIN
WINWINWIN: thanks
A.F: how to do CODERS STRIKE BACK
A.F: :grinning:
jrke: yes how to do it gold league
AntiSquid: ask more specific questions if you want help A.F
Uljahn: have you changed the inputs from the silver?
AntiSquid: what do you mean ?
Uljahn: there are new inputs in csb gold
Uljahn: so you should use "restore default code" button
AntiSquid: ah thought you were talking about breach ...
Uljahn: ye, im doing breach now
AntiSquid: i tried applying a different color code, not sure if it worked or how to make it work
A.F: what? AntiSquid
AntiSquid: yes
Arnav-S: when i console.log('\n') why does it print 2 blank lines
AntiSquid: also ignoring private messages, not interested in a long convo
AntiSquid: A.F read
A.F: in c ++
A.F: can you speak persian
jrke: no
Uljahn: nani
A.F: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back
A.F: how to finish this
AntiSquid: click submit inside IDE and close tab, done, finished
jrke: till silver it is easy csb
A.F: no i can not write this code
AntiSquid: then quit
A.F: what?
Uljahn: you cant solve multi like a puzzle
A.F: how to write this code
Uljahn: are you new here?
A.F: yes
AntiSquid: oh i made progress with that retarded puzzle, got few extra frames, kinda stupid really it doesn't tell you what the output format should be
Uljahn: so you should guess?
AntiSquid: in CSB it tells you what the expected output is A.F
AntiSquid: yes you have to guess that crap Uljahn
Uljahn: A.F: have you solved Onboarding puzzle? try some more easy puzzles first, don't do coders strike back right now
A.F: what is csb
Uljahn: csb == coders strike back
AntiSquid: the shit you link A.F
SandiIrawan: :flag_cn::thumbsdown:
AntiSquid: Uljahn so basically, was trying different formatting ways after the first output didn't work (single int):
AntiSquid: Standard Error Stream: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d09691df-73ff-407f-86c8-0b042c7d45ab
AntiSquid: and then realized it just wants an extra step in the sequence
Uljahn: interesting
A.F: thanks
Uljahn: AntiSquid: is that some updated IDE in breach?
Astrobytes: They've updated the IDE
Astrobytes: CG, that is
Uljahn: indeed
AntiSquid: i don't see any update :/
Uljahn: ctrl+f5?
AntiSquid: looks same as before ?
Astrobytes: clear yer cache
Uljahn: wth it's so alien
Astrobytes: It's actually.... useable! :scream_cat:
AntiSquid: still confused
AntiSquid: i see some slight text formatting change
AntiSquid: how do i change format settings for IDE again?
Uljahn: ctrl+, doesn't work now
Astrobytes: The old one was Ctrl+, the new one is F1
Uljahn: thx
Astrobytes: I like it
Uljahn: ah so it's more VSC now
Astrobytes: yeah
AntiSquid: i click command pallete and nothing pops up :/
Uljahn: noice
AntiSquid: well looks prettier but font is a bit small for my screen
Astrobytes: Settings on the left
Astrobytes: or you can zoom in from the Command Palette
AntiSquid: ya that doesn't pop up
AntiSquid: pressing F1, i get drop down menu, i select command palette, menu disappears
Astrobytes: Can you get to it via right-click?
AntiSquid: getting the drop down menu from there :D
Astrobytes: cool
[CG]SaiksyApo: F1 is the command palette
AntiSquid: it doesn't open up
Astrobytes: Works fine here
AntiSquid: i will just use ctrl +/- for now
Astrobytes: Which browser AntiSquid?
AntiSquid: that doesn't resize all the page anymore, which is good
[CG]SaiksyApo: Astro was talking about the font size setting in the left pane i think
AntiSquid: i tried on opera and firefox Astrobytes
Astrobytes: I'm fine in Opera
Uljahn: ye, there is a new setting
Astrobytes: Yep, and a minimap
AntiSquid: ya was referring to the font size, the one of the left can't be set by number, you have preset some values, so ctrl + or - will do
Astrobytes: There's a zoom in the palette tho
AntiSquid: oh minimap is nice
Astrobytes: yeah, very handy
Uljahn: indentation rulers for the dark theme in python now visible
AntiSquid: btw for the actual visual studio code, i get errors marked in red on the minimap, didn't manage to turn it off although i turned off a lot of red underlining
AntiSquid: happened after a recent upgrade
Astrobytes: Hm, haven't used it for a while
Astrobytes: Nice Uljahn!
jrke: new update for website
AntiSquid: read chat history :p
jrke: :grimacing:
jrke: nice update
AntiSquid: so Breach is a guesswork puzzle, will continue later :/
AntiSquid: 10% lol
Astrobytes: I started doing it cause you were talking about it, what a pain in the ass of a puzzle
AntiSquid: ya it's more annoying than challenging imo
jrke: antisquid where are u from
Astrobytes: Yes. It's really awkward.
AntiSquid: laniakea jrke
AntiSquid: known universe
jrke: ohhh
AntiSquid: yes
AntiSquid: so "little harder" gives me a string and i need to guess what type what int it wants as output
AntiSquid: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/613e0dce-90fe-45fe-b3c3-e4155d99d4d3
AntiSquid: so now i need to keep guessing if it wants the index or the length or something else ... wow
Astrobytes: It's not really much of a programming puzzle is it
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: just if else and guess work really
jrke: hey what's in spring challenge 2020
AntiSquid: but it's in very hard because of poorly done statement with incomplete info
AntiSquid: the statement is the challenge
Astrobytes: Yeah, for real
jrke: hey what's in spring challenge 2020
Uljahn: ban
AntiSquid: don't spam please man :/
jrke: K
AntiSquid: did you click the challenge / had a look at the cover image jrke ?
AntiSquid: that's all the information everyone (officially) gets until the contest starts
AntiSquid: as you can see it's probably a pacman themed game
AntiSquid: see discord channel for more information jrke
Uljahn: those leaks in the past ruined some fun :(
AntiSquid: but everyone knows pacman and cover is pacman, what else to expect?
Astrobytes: He-Man obviously
AntiSquid: (oh and power ups)
Astrobytes: I thought there was a rule about "powerups"
MSmits: "I have the power!!!!"
Astrobytes: :D
AntiSquid: Space Maze: completed by 3 codingamers, now this looks like headache :o
MSmits: is that eulers?
AntiSquid: yes
Astrobytes: Yeah
MSmits: kk
MSmits: should be fun at least
Astrobytes: Looks beastly af
AntiSquid: but at least it's straight forward
Astrobytes: The instructions are clear, yes
AntiSquid: no fake mobius strip / incomplete statement
Astrobytes: And it's got a little car
AntiSquid: from mean max
Astrobytes: Yeah :)
MSmits: euler is creative with assets
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: Makes good games tho'
MSmits: that look good too
Astrobytes: Onitama is lovely looking
MSmits: this is the only game where i sometimes just look at replays for no apparent reason
Astrobytes: hehehe
MSmits: param fitting is getting annoying
MSmits: I found this local maximum where I win kar liso near 80% and the rest is maybe 55-60%
MSmits: but I know it can be better, but anything i do lowers kar liso winrate by a lot
AntiSquid: how do you fit your params?
MSmits: cg bench
AntiSquid: i mean the actual param fitting process
MSmits: just one by one
AntiSquid: aha that's why
MSmits: i spread
Astrobytes: lol, how annoying
MSmits: how should i be doing it AntiSquid
AntiSquid: i mean you do it like a linear regression of sorts
AntiSquid: and you need multiple linear regression
MSmits: yes but i have 8 constants
AntiSquid: well multiple regression i mean
MSmits: have to look into that I guess
AntiSquid: check dependent variables, interdependent vars etc ...
Astrobytes: That's actually quite a good idea
AntiSquid: independent *
MSmits: yeah... exploration parameter is independent
MSmits: the rest is not
AntiSquid: no i mean when you fine tune
MSmits: oh
AntiSquid: you need to watch out what you fine tune for and how the vars affect each other
MSmits: thats difficult to do. I also get a lot of variation with the different opponents
MSmits: I am testing 4
AntiSquid: and the var you fine tune is the dependant var and you need to see what it is dependant on and then see how the vars that it is dependent on are dependent on each other
AntiSquid: and there's a bunch of formulas you need to apply
MSmits: I'll just use a tool somehow
AntiSquid: it's maths / stats
Astrobytes: You could probably just write one
MSmits: there must be one
Uljahn: sort of correlation in variation?
MSmits: yeah i guess it's a kind of correlation
AntiSquid: what tool do you intend to use?
Astrobytes: Excel...
MSmits: https://regressit.com/regressitpc.html this maybe?
MSmits: addon for ecel
MSmits: excel
Astrobytes: Do you know R?
AntiSquid: oh cheat, i thought you are going to write up the entire thing :p
MSmits: nah this is not my idea of fun. I like the fitting, but I dont want to write my own tools here
Astrobytes: Learn R, you can do anything stats with R
AntiSquid: ok
MSmits: I do want something simple Astrobytes
Astrobytes: Meh. Go back to your Excel :P
MSmits: yeah!
MSmits: mmh, now it wants me to change decimal symbol to do
AntiSquid: well excel became very versatile
MSmits: t
AntiSquid: all the add ins and plugins and ...
Astrobytes: bloat?
AntiSquid: why call it bloat?
Astrobytes: All the Office stuff is bloated
Astrobytes: I still use it though
AntiSquid: but using the extra stuff is optional
AntiSquid: guess you can use google docs instead less functionalities ?
Astrobytes: Yeah, it's when you need lots of the extra stuff it gets annoying
Astrobytes: I hate Google Docs
Astrobytes: I can live with Office
MSmits: the online version of microsoft is worse
MSmits: the browser one i mean
AntiSquid: i find this great:
https://mashable.com/2014/08/27/microsoft-excel-games/?europe=true
AntiSquid: more fancy stuff:
https://www.exceltrick.com/interesting/excel-games-free-download/?
Astrobytes: lol someone did a roguelike in Excel
Astrobytes: Very creative
MSmits: I like how you can do things quick and easy in excel, but the vba code behind it is horrible
MSmits: sometimes I have to use it
MSmits: I :cry:
AntiSquid: can't find it right now but there was some interesting pipeline project, reading emails filtering through them, downloading attachments and presenting them in excel ... something like that
MaciejF: There you are speaking about advanced excel stuff while my most advanced excel project looks like this https://imgur.com/FGroEru
Adnmaster: is it impossible to get to wood 2 in code royale??!!
AntiSquid: that's good, i didn't do much in excel :p
Adnmaster: im better than the duchess boss, both in leaderboard and test
AntiSquid: what about the other players Adnmaster
Adnmaster: then why does it say duchess boss is better than everybody?
Adnmaster: and you have to defeat the duchess boss?
AntiSquid: is your submit at 100%?
Adnmaster: yes
AntiSquid: is there a promotion timer?
Adnmaster: yes
AntiSquid: queen 21.78 points
you 19.93
AntiSquid: so you are not better than the boss
Adnmaster: do you get points by killing people?
Adnmaster: *winning
Adnmaster: ok thanks
MSmits: aww dammit look at this
MSmits: 12:40:54,796 INFO Temporary results (time left estimation : 79 minutes) : http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5ce80555-da8d-4ef4-8285-cee5c6b12bf0
AntiSquid: even the history changed for the IDE
MSmits: now tric trac is messing me up
AntiSquid: please explain MSmits are you getting better or worse
MSmits: both
MSmits: better overall, better vs kar liso, but if i'm below 50% with anyone, they can spam submit and pull me down :P
AntiSquid: ah you raised your win rate vs everyone? hard to tell with just these results
MSmits: no, i lowered it vs tric trac
MSmits: i have another version that has 90% winrate vs him, but 30% vs kar liso
MSmits: it's really annoying
Astrobytes: So close, yet so far!
AntiSquid: so what adjustments did you make now ?
MSmits: it's just a constant i lowered. Something to do with the master being threatened
Uljahn: is it possible to identify your opponent and use best set of params like kovi did in OoC? :thinking:
MSmits: hmm not exactly. You can identify types of opponent by looking at choices they make
MSmits: such as, is this a chain-silencer?
MSmits: or,does this person always use silence with distance 0
MSmits: then you can adjust your bot based on that
MSmits: that wont work for me in onitama though
MSmits: games are too short, too little information
Uljahn: ah, i see
Nerchio: i swear i spent way too much time on doing basic board manipulation for bandas
Nerchio: xD
Nerchio: shame
MaciejF: does anyone here use CGBenchmark or CGSpunk?
AntiSquid: yes
AntiSquid: cgspunk doesn't work anymore
AntiSquid: don't have time to help you with cgbenchmark i would ask someone else ... maybe even in #fr chat ?
LoGos: Ok, thanks. I'll try to make it work
darkhorse64: Nerchio: bitboarding is key for bandas
Nerchio: its about efficiency or just easier board manipulation?
darkhorse64: Efficiency mostly. Once you get used to biboarding, it gets easy too but forget about readable code. Comments highly neededd
Nerchio: ok i will try without bitboards first i dont need to be #1 ;p
darkhorse64: my mcts #5 does purely random rollouts but it does many of them
Nerchio: hehe i just realised how input is given and it wont work for my system :D
Nerchio: i thought maybe opponent move is given or something
darkhorse64: You need to guess it :unamused:
MSmits: I need to go back to bandas and do a early playout termination version
MSmits: but too much else to do
MSmits: btw darkhorse64 I had a new insight about Onitama or fitting constants in general
MSmits: I was fitting a constant for threatening the opponents master. Trying with 0 (high winrate), trying with score 1000 (high winrate), but with 500 it is bad
MSmits: So I was thinking, the constant obviously has multiple peaks. Maybe these correspond to different playing strategy
MSmits: in one strategy you actively hunt for the opponents master, in the other strategy you do not (instead maybe try to take his shrine)
dbdr: can you graph the winrates?
MSmits: this would explain why a half-way measure would be worse
dbdr: enough data?
MSmits: I have enough games for each value, but only 3 values for now
MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/VF3aLcl
MSmits: left and right dot have 400 games
MSmits: middle has 240 games. I stopped it because it was so bad
dbdr: use 1500 to get more than 100% winrate ;)
MSmits: lol
MSmits: btw, the 0 version has this:
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/aee73a2f-2345-4876-afb0-b7cfb1747c5c
MSmits: the 1000 version has this:
MSmits: 22:53:27,287 INFO Final results : http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/38502bd1-90a8-4749-8f93-2fe353b893ba
ALIM: Hello everyone! Could someone tell me why i dont have 100% success to a problem even though my code passes all testcases?
dbdr: destroying karlis o?
MSmits: the 0 version destroys him yes
MSmits: but also weak to tric tac
dbdr: ALIM there is a difference between testcases and validators
ALIM: But what can i do for that?
MSmits: so basically it seems a bad idea to go after kar liso's master... maybe he defends it well
dbdr: it means your code does not work, in cases not tested by the main testcases
MSmits: but this is just all theory. My main point is... there's a lot going on here
darkhorse64: Did you found an eval for bandas ?
ALIM: Could you help me with my code? I would highly appreciate that
dbdr: ALIM maybe the name of the validator can help you imagine what kind of situation does not work in
MSmits: i havent tried yet, but all I can think of for bandas is, count you dudes and count the center dudes for more points
struct: Hi
MSmits: maybe some way of estimating pushing possibilities
struct: MSmits what happened to yuor avatar?
MSmits: problem is on your end i think struct
eulerscheZahl: i don'T see it either
eulerscheZahl: problem is on CG end
MSmits: ah
dbdr: I don't see my own :D
ALIM: I dont know everything seems logical to me
eulerscheZahl: :D
dbdr: but I see MSmits
struct: This new editor seems better
dbdr: I think reload should fix it no?
MSmits: i see all of you
struct: ctrl f5 did not work
ALIM: I have reloaded several times
MSmits: :fire: I SEE YOU :fire:
eulerscheZahl: wow, they replaced the editor :o
struct: yes
struct: ctrl mouse wheel
struct: zooms
eulerscheZahl: with monaco
struct: nice
eulerscheZahl: just a few days ago someone said that monaco is way better but will probably never happen
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN having a red panties night
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the same specific challenge?
eulerscheZahl: was it recurs e? i'm not sure anymore
kamiathe: hi
MSmits: sounds like re curse
eulerscheZahl: dbdr push the chat logs
kamiathe: is there anyone who know angular 6 pls?
AntiSquid: wrong site to ask imo
AntiSquid: look up a more JS centric site
MSmits: stack overflow
AntiSquid: google for angular 6 tutorials
MSmits: or just stay here and forget about all that webstuff, here's where the fun is
AntiSquid: i think i stopped at angular 4, they were advertising it back then as the final and most sophisticated angular
MSmits: maybe they went downhill after
dbdr: somenody - recurs.e I think
kamiathe: ok thx
AntiSquid: kamiathe see freecodecamp
eulerscheZahl: i just spammed the editor with many lines, still scrolling fine.
the old editor got laggy somewhere around 1.5k lines
AntiSquid: they have a live chat server too
MSmits: eulerscheZahl I could kill it by pasting an opening book :P
eulerscheZahl: :D
eulerscheZahl: how did you submit it?
eulerscheZahl: https://docs.monaca.io/en/products_guide/monaca_ide/editor/
your new hotkeys
MSmits: it stayed, I just had to reload the ide
MSmits: not sure where it hanged, maybe i was able to use play to save it
dbdr: eulerscheZahl pushed :)
eulerscheZahl: thanks
eulerscheZahl: reCurse: Just switch to monaco
eulerscheZahl: and my profile pic is broken in your logs
MSmits: is it monaco or monaca?
AntiSquid: your link calls it monaca
dbdr: there's also a hit in Fr channel about rich people living in Monaco :D
struct: Its Monaco
MSmits: now I'm getting confused
AntiSquid: go to that website and argue with those people then
struct: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
AntiSquid: monaca.io official docs ... :/
MSmits: maybe these are not the same ?
eulerscheZahl: <div class="monaco-editor"
in the HTML
eulerscheZahl: maybe i linked the wrong docs?
MSmits: if you dont know the name of your own product, I thihk you have a bug
struct: "The Monaca Cloud IDE uses Monaco editor."
eulerscheZahl: that explains why ctrl+comma for font size didn't work :D
AntiSquid: it has a diff editor ??
MSmits: ok so monaca uses monaco
MSmits: all we need now is someone named Monica saying that
struct: omfg
Astrobytes: Monica uses monaco for monads
struct: right click editor
struct: or press F1
eulerscheZahl: woohoo
AntiSquid: damn UTG is ridiculously random, completely forgot how bad it is in that regard
MSmits: ow, I learned something new in my AI class!
MSmits: did not think i was going to, in my boundless arrogance
AntiSquid: MSmits https://youtu.be/sim2pgOVeoo?t=53
MSmits: they have a topic of knowledge, which deals with logic and how to combine several logical "sentences" and simplify the logic for an AI
MSmits: thanks (?) AntiSquid
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: which page do you see your avatar broken? works for me
AntiSquid: thought you'd be interested in the monica song
dbdr: both old and new
eulerscheZahl: https://cg.spdns.eu/wiki/Chat:World/2020-03-10
eulerscheZahl: your avatar too
AntiSquid: i see MSmits' avatar as broken
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/s6sd8t
MSmits: yes i know you want me to use that cartoonish einstein
MSmits: you've made that clear
AntiSquid: all shows up correcytly on thatspdns page though
struct: cg fault
Astrobytes: Propositional logic MSmits?
MSmits: yeah and first order logic
struct: https://static.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=37132928861372&format=navigation_avatar
AntiSquid: MSmits no, it wouldn't work either way
Astrobytes: You'll enjoy that, it's good
AntiSquid: the chat isn't displaying avatars correctly some times
WINWINWIN: Wow, python3 both at the top of CSB
WINWINWIN: just noticed :D
MSmits: it is, I saw the lecture and now need to complete an assignment
eulerscheZahl: WINWINWIN it's a C++ bot
dbdr: eulerscheZahl https://i.snipboard.io/MFwJVn.jpg
mine is broken indeed, yours is there for me
eulerscheZahl: with python as a wrapper for the neural network
MSmits: well two actually, i am working ahead, these are harvard lectures and they provide two, not sure which one my teacher will pick so i'll do both
WINWINWIN: Ohh :)
eulerscheZahl: has better compression
MSmits: https://cs50.harvard.edu/ai/
eulerscheZahl: dbdr i guess mine is cached as i changed it recently?
Astrobytes: Argh, that CS50 guy
dbdr: I need to remember what I do :D
MSmits: you dont like him?
AntiSquid: https://imgur.com/a/JEHeA6L MSmits
Astrobytes: I find him *intensely* annoying
dbdr: I think it should work, but only if my script runs while the avatar is still available
AntiSquid: i done the CS50 thingy, it felt extremely useless
MSmits: lol.. I think he is a bit annoying, but the flow of the lecture i sgood
MSmits: AntiSquid yeah if you know a lot already then it is. did you also do the assignments?
eulerscheZahl: that's one way to make sure that no avatars get lost :rofl:
dbdr: oh, this is old logs
AntiSquid: uhm i did it years ago MSmits
Astrobytes: At least you got a lecture, when I studied that I had a textbook and an email address if I had any questions lol
dbdr: the new ones work differently, but I have not regenerated the old ones
eulerscheZahl: i see
MSmits: hehe, well the first lecture about search told me nothing new, but the knowledge lecture was interesting
MSmits: I'll point my classmates (5 of them) to CG
eulerscheZahl: are they as crazily dedicated as you?
MSmits: doubt it
eulerscheZahl: let's call it passionate
dbdr: new system uses https://cg.spdns.eu/a/43135502422075
MSmits: both work
dbdr: won't disappear :)
dbdr: until my server dies ;)
AntiSquid: i done a bunch of courses on this site: https://www.edx.org/ i see they changed layout and have new courses, but from what i remember it's all very superficial
eulerscheZahl: but that's fine, we need no avatars without chatlogs
MSmits: of course, this is what you do before you go into CS at Harvard
MSmits: it's introductory
AntiSquid: superficial stuff?
MSmits: yes
AntiSquid: then i rather skip it
dbdr: true, it's just candy. might fun nice to see people's old avatars though
MSmits: well I need the study credit so i cant. Besides, when you like a subject enough it doesnt matter
MSmits: it's like watching a movie you have already seen
MSmits: you'll still enjoy it
MSmits: if it's good enough ofc
AntiSquid: no i wouldn't
AntiSquid: sorry, but very difficult to rewatch stuff :/
MSmits: ahh ok, but you eat food you like a second time
MSmits: even when it tastes the same
AntiSquid: it never tasts as good as the first time :p
MSmits: depends on the food, sometimes it's bad the first time and it gets better
MSmits: but i will not argue food with a chef
AntiSquid: why? there's no expert when every single person is different
AntiSquid: can't please everyone
MSmits: mmh ok, that's true, but I live off nutrient shakes, I think we can establish objectively that you are right in any discussion by definition
AntiSquid: anyway, i think you can learn more if you follow your own route
MSmits: I agree
MSmits: but no study credits for that
Astrobytes: AntiSquid I keep going back to that stupid fking puzzle
AntiSquid: which one of them?
Astrobytes: lol, this morning's one, Breach
AntiSquid: ah
AntiSquid: so did you guess anything new?
Astrobytes: No I got the first one
Astrobytes: Everything I tried for the second is wrong
AntiSquid: ya i stopped at the upper case lower case string
Astrobytes: Moving on to the third one
AntiSquid: i didn't try character to int
struct: Whats the puzzle about?
AntiSquid: about how good of a guesser you can be
MSmits: sounds like bulls and cows
AntiSquid: no, that requires some brain cells
MSmits: aha
Astrobytes: This is just annoying
AntiSquid: i mean in bulls and cows it's not purely guessing
AntiSquid: you know what your goal is, you kinda have an idea how to reach the goal
eulerscheZahl: breach:
input: DEFgHI
find the output
eulerscheZahl: no context given what it's about
Astrobytes: You just fumble your way through
MSmits: who approved it?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/breach
eulerscheZahl: one of them is here right now :P
MSmits: ah I see
Astrobytes: These sort of puzzles are fine in the CTF format, but imo not suited to a puzzle, not in the way it is currently
Astrobytes: *CG puzzle
MSmits: someone could change the statement
eulerscheZahl: no
AntiSquid: oh Uljahn at 20% he prolly figured out the char thingy
eulerscheZahl: SDK contribution. and private source
MSmits: oh
MSmits: I see, viewer
eulerscheZahl: btw thibaud asked me about your langton bug report if we tried to update the game, sent him the screenshot that i can't update it
MSmits: cool
dbdr: any complaints?
eulerscheZahl: was a little late in my reply as i was "in the office"
AntiSquid: too many, don't want to flood the chat dbdr
MSmits: you mean the same room you are in right now, but with office hat on
dbdr: breach is too hard for you? ;)
AntiSquid: LOL
eulerscheZahl: with office PC connected to my monitor
AntiSquid: has nothing to do with difficulty
MSmits: ah I see
wlesavo: "in the office" somehow sounds like in a toilet
AntiSquid: should be in a Guess category
MSmits: wlesavo we dont all drop out turds in our cubicle
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: no context, that's the spirit of the puzzle. think like a hacker
eulerscheZahl: i know that that's what the puzzle is about
eulerscheZahl: tried converting to binary
MartijnH: <-- Breach 100%
eulerscheZahl: (reading as binary i mean)
Astrobytes: Yeah, and I like those kind of problems, but in the context of this as a CG puzzle it feels clunky and awkward
eulerscheZahl: and there were ascii art numbers. was to lazy to parse them
eulerscheZahl: i'm all for breaking the rules to add something unique
AntiSquid: i can spend time and guess it all, but what's the point? might as well play lottery and analyze lottery draws, but analyzing lottery draws feels less pointless
MSmits: how about the reverse engineering puzzle
eulerscheZahl: like "you can do everything online on the CG website" and then came number shifting
dbdr: yes, that was cool
dbdr: extending the scope of what's possible
Sasetesus: pizzapasta
dbdr: *known to be possible :)
Sasetesus: mandolino
MartijnH: Anyway.. if you want some hints on Breach.. send me a pm
AntiSquid: how to ignore it without use of adblocker ?
Astrobytes: lol
dbdr: eulerscheZahl https://www.codingame.com/replay/455300581
we are good at filling the board while staying at 0 gold :D
eulerscheZahl: something seems wrong with my endgame detection
eulerscheZahl: wanted to harvest at some point
joeltonyf: Missed Ocean of Code :( how was it?
Quidome: thrilling
Nerchio: ooc was gooood
joeltonyf: Level of competition very high as it was a month long contest?
Nerchio: i got to legend so not sure about high haha
joeltonyf: :)
thomasyuyu: fi
Celal: how can l delete this chat from right absolutely? l want delete absolutely this
JBM: you want to delete us?
JBM: nice
ZarthaxX: savage
Astrobytes: Press the arrow, or append ?disableChat to the url
Astrobytes: And good day to you too, sir.
AntiSquid: for a really ferocious way of deleting the chat, install adblock plus origin, minimize this chat and right click on the chat bar and then block element, repeat the right click and block until there's nothing left of the chat bar space
AntiSquid: Celal
Astrobytes: Or just hit that big X in the corner
Astrobytes: Got 2 more btw AntiSquid
AntiSquid: i guess you can request a ban before doing that? maybe that helps Celal ?
AntiSquid: 2 more what Astrobytes ?
Astrobytes: Test cases solved
AntiSquid: lol ... i am trying to fix my UTG
AntiSquid: did you solve the 2nd one ?
Astrobytes: I still can't bear to look at that
Astrobytes: UTG that is
AntiSquid: why do you do it then?
Astrobytes: No, 3rd and 4th
AntiSquid: CR / cystal rush
Astrobytes: Yeah yeah, whatever you wanna call it I still can't face it
AntiSquid: i missread your msg, thought you wrote what is UTG
AntiSquid: it's very random indeed, you need a much stronger bot than the average user to progress otherwise you won't feel any sense of progression
AntiSquid: or rather moreprecise bot
Celal: this chat part hinter me to move my coding part
AntiSquid: i told you how to do it
Astrobytes: So did I
AntiSquid: can you read Celal ?
Celal: l know english not perfekt:innocent:
AntiSquid: ok
Astrobytes: You can hide the chat Celal, the white arrow below
AntiSquid: click the > arrow at the bottom of the chat
Celal: but arrow stay here , for open chat to right
Uljahn: that's more a triangle btw :smirk:
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: celal
Astrobytes: OK, to disable it: add ?disableChat at the end of the URL
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: hey dude how r u
Astrobytes: Details Uljahn, details :P
Uljahn: .chat-wrapper {display: None!important} works for me too
AntiSquid: DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7 translate to him to install adblock plus and block the chat element on the website
Uljahn: also that 3rd testcase in breach made me laugh
Astrobytes: I wasn't laughing
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: celal qaqa deyir adblock yukle
Astrobytes: I figured it out from testcase 4
Uljahn: me too
Astrobytes: :)
AntiSquid: i regret mentioning breach in chat lol
Celal: AntiSquid l won't install that program:grin::joy:
Uljahn: why
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: what are you talking about guys
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: why does he have to install it
Celal: DarkCubeVon ne uzun adin var ay qa
Uljahn: it's nice for those clever cats who can't code
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: ayga tezeyeme hele sdsd
AntiSquid: DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7 he wants to delete the chat from his view lol
AntiSquid: i offered a possibility
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Baki muhendislikde oxuyuram mende
AntiSquid: tell him to write ?disableChat=true at the end of the URL in his browser
AntiSquid: we are just being helpful DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7
Uljahn: just deal with the chat then :slight_smile:
Celal: ehtiyat tanisim deyilsenki?:joy:
Astrobytes: you don't even need the =true
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Anti Squid he understands you. if he wants it he'll solve it
AntiSquid: then why the fuck does he nag us about it DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7 ? he asked us for help
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: necenci kursda oxuyursan
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: yoxsa qutarmisan
Celal: 2ci kurs
Celal: sen?
Astrobytes: squid gets my vote for Moderator of the Year
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: AntiSquid i dont know man
AntiSquid: and why does he only understand after you told him a second time?
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: men 1 ci kurs
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Etibar mlm bize kecir dersi jsdjsjd
Uljahn: also you can delete your account, and start anew, then there is no chat until you're level2 or 3 :smiley:
Celal: Cefer menle mezelenirsen bayaqdan:joy:
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: AntiSquid dude i dont know him
AntiSquid: ya sorry to bother you DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Celal gaga cefer zad doleme sehv anladin
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: AntiSquid no problem
AntiSquid: and thanks for your help
Celal: AntiSquid thanks for your kindness
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: +
AntiSquid: lol
AntiSquid: was just trying to get rid of you Celal
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Celal IT de oxuyursan yoxsa komp muhendisliyinde
Celal: Komp muhendisliyi sende komp olmalisan Etibar Legend kecirse dersi
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: heri
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Eti kecir bizede
AntiSquid: google translate: Celal 04:39 PM
If you have a computer engineering course, you should be a computer
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: wth
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: :smiley:
Celal: Foundationla birge ders kecirsizse proqramminq nece kecirsiz?
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: foundation qutarib uje
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: 5 ay filan oldu
Celal: Antisquid l have computer))
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: AntiSquid what's your name
AntiSquid: just call me Sir
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: mene tip verinde bu C de neter inkisaf eliyim
zj5121: ,i,l
zj5121: 65
zj5121: 788888888888787878j vhry78uy7hn
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: sir can you give me some advice . how can i improve my skill on C language
AntiSquid: i use C once in a blue moon, so probably not
Astrobytes: Practice.
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: sorry?
AntiSquid: i rarely use it
Astrobytes: For instance, solving puzzles on here using C, to improve your skills
AntiSquid: use stackoverflow or google to find answers to your C based questions
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: Thank you Astrobytes, thank you AntiSquid
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: yes thats a good idea
AntiSquid: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/c-programming-language/?ref=leftbar DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7
AntiSquid: i like that site
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: i know another one tutorials point
AntiSquid: and tutorialzine
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: i want to know is there other sites like this
AntiSquid: like codingame ?
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: yes
AntiSquid: yes a lot of them
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: aha
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: can you share with me
Celal: How site is hackerrank? is it a good site?
Celal: it is so hard
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: bize ff veribe ordan isdemek olmur
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: he cetindi
AntiSquid: i share what i find on google
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: exactly
AntiSquid: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/eelexn/list_of_programming_challenge_websites/
AntiSquid: https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-good-coding-competition-practice-sites
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: thank you so much sir. God bless you
AntiSquid: which one of the gods?
AntiSquid: i am picky on which diety is allowed to bless me
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: the god is one :)
AntiSquid: i accept one's blessing then
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: i call him as a muslim Allah
Durkin: damn, I really hoping it'd be more zeus vibes
AntiSquid: i am not religious
DarkCubeVonKirschenwald_2da7: i respect
AntiSquid: for breach 3 and 4 are chemistry tables ? :/
Astrobytes: :tada:
AntiSquid: seriously?
Astrobytes: :zipper_mouth:
AntiSquid: lol they are ...
eulerscheZahl: SPOILER
Uljahn: ban
AntiSquid: retarded puzzle
AntiSquid: it's just guess work
eulerscheZahl: and now: guess why i stopped
Astrobytes: I don't mind the puzzles themselves, but as I said, it seriously does not suit this format
AntiSquid: i only looked at the input because people were talking about it
AntiSquid: and i still remember chemical symbols from school ... but someone with no interest in chemistry would struggle
AntiSquid: the general gist i got from first looking at the puzzle was some CTF related stuff
Astrobytes: Which would be fine if we were in a CTF environment.
Astrobytes: I'm half expecting a steganography testcase where I need to output a full jpeg or something by hand
eulerscheZahl: there is your stegano image: http://www.hacker.org/challenge/img/residue.png
eulerscheZahl: Challenge 'Filtration Residue' [Crypto]
Astrobytes: I've not been on that site in years, forgotten my details and was with an old email. Might have to re-register, does everything still work?
AntiSquid: doubt it wil lget that exciting, #5 is obviously reverse ascii art :D
eulerscheZahl: a few parts are broken now :(
eulerscheZahl: using legacy technology such as java applets, good luck playing that in your browser
eulerscheZahl: and the forum was dead for a while, seems to be up again
Astrobytes: Ah, shame. Maybe they'll update it one day
AntiSquid: close to figuring #2 out, i bet it's something really lame
AntiSquid: Standard Error Stream: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/94dafb7c-a22e-48ec-a795-6dcf7da7d7d5
Astrobytes: I'm close on #6
eulerscheZahl: oh, you solved the ss_f one :o
AntiSquid: did you notice the letters are just a portion of the alpabet ?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: hm, i have an idea...
dbdr: seems you guys love to hate it :)
eulerscheZahl: this was stupid
eulerscheZahl: and the ss_f code solved rs_f too? not sure if i got lucky or if it is the same
alvanrahimli: Hi! Can you suggest some problems to solve for beginners?
dbdr: alvanrahimli there is an "easy" section in puzzles
darkhorse64: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
alvanrahimli: oh thanks, i couln't find that section.
alvanrahimli: <3 <3
Nerchio: lol https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/455335865
Astrobytes: Ah yeah I s ee the ss_f one now
icecream17: oh that puzzle is amazing
AntiSquid: what? which one?
icecream17: Breach
icecream17: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/breach
AntiSquid: Astrobytes did you solve #2? think of the dumbest and easiest solution
AntiSquid: icecream17 we were just talking about how stupid it is
Astrobytes: wtf it's the same shit
AntiSquid: same shit as what?
icecream17: It was really hard for me to figure out 1 and 2, but I did it! I don't understand 3 yet though
Astrobytes: AntiSquid the same method to solve rs_f
AntiSquid: lol see what i meant when i said earlier it's dumb?
Astrobytes: Yuuup
AntiSquid: #3 #4 are easy depending on personal preferences IceDemonOfDeath_cdf4
AntiSquid: icecream17
icecream17: I'm gonna try the ascii/unicode for gs_m...
AntiSquid: rs_f isn't solve for me :/
icecream17: Just [redacted]. Really easy
AntiSquid: ah , i didn't add the elif rs_f yet
Astrobytes: that would explain it ;)
AntiSquid: lol
AntiSquid: seriously
icecream17: btw, Did the IDE font change for js?
Astrobytes: No. The IDE changed.
AntiSquid: for everything
AntiSquid: icecream17 tell me the input for #3 or #4 and i can tell you what it is
icecream17: Standard Error Stream:
[ 'gs_m: Unauthorized', 'Need Symbol: 114' ]
icecream17: don't me though
icecream17: don't tell
AntiSquid: ok should i describe it?
eulerscheZahl: Fl
eulerscheZahl: that's the answer
icecream17: I'm guessing String.fromCharCode(code)
AntiSquid: it's super heavy
eulerscheZahl: :D
Uljahn: just running test 4 several times gives enough hints
AntiSquid: and artificial
eulerscheZahl: probably won't last long
AntiSquid: but it was my first thought when running #3, i was thinking it can't be that! it can't be that would be ...
eulerscheZahl: 3 and 4 are reverse to each other
eulerscheZahl: oh, was mentioned before
icecream17: Augh, what could it be? So not ascii/unicode...
Astrobytes: Look at 4
icecream17: "In" is it the....
icecream17: crevbqvp gnoyr? (rot13)
icecream17: Va = Vaqvhz
Lrnu, V xabj zl ryrzragf
Astrobytes: :zipper_mouth:
icecream17: First try =D
AntiSquid: which one is that?
AntiSquid: #5 ? #7 ?
Astrobytes: 4
AntiSquid: ah lol
AntiSquid: icecream17 heavy spoiler to the entire puzzle: don't overthink, instead of expecting much, expect very little of it
eulerscheZahl: yeah you got it icecream17
eulerscheZahl: have fun finding a copy-paste ready table or typing it yourself
icecream17: Wow. This expert puzzle is harder than some easy puzzles....
AntiSquid: please
Astrobytes: I found a table separated by tabs and spaces, then just find/replaced into a nice format
AntiSquid: when i was in school the bottom ones where called something else
Astrobytes: Lots of changes over the years
AntiSquid: ununquadium for example
Astrobytes: Yeah, they finally found some names
icecream17: Tennessine, Oganesson. [Dysprosium, Oxygen]
eulerscheZahl: i still have a physical version from my days back in school
stops at 111 (112 is there but without a name)
AntiSquid: the real challenge is space maze obv, only 3 people solved it wtf ?
AntiSquid: need to do that at some point
eulerscheZahl: we should move it to the easy section so more people try it. then the solver count can go up :thinking:
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: Has it been PotW yet?
eulerscheZahl: i don't think so
AntiSquid: potw ?
eulerscheZahl: puzzle of the week
AntiSquid: ah
eulerscheZahl: took me some guesswork and https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=potw to get it
Astrobytes: lol, sorry for the confusion
AntiSquid: instantly started thinking of corona patients
mark7: my first line in javascript code is "r=readline"
it gives error "r is not defined why??"
eulerscheZahl: var r?
eulerscheZahl: nah, should do without
mark7: it normally works
mark7: I dont know why its not working in power of thor
Astrobytes: Paste your code here mark7
eulerscheZahl: oh, you are the one who invited me to clash of code an hour ago
mark7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/026836f7-1805-4caf-8cd0-f178161010b1
mark7: eulerscheZahl yer
mark7: yes*
Astrobytes: readline() ?
eulerscheZahl: then i will not open this code
mark7: eulerscheZahl you can open,
eulerscheZahl: now, i'm mad
mark7: Astrobytes that calls the function i want to create refernce to that function
mark7: eulerscheZahl why?
AntiSquid: you could even drop the var
Astrobytes: oh you're codegolfing
AntiSquid: no idea though mark7, ask on discord
mark7: AntiSquid I got it
struct: Thor never goes North
mark7: Bcoz i used that array to variable thing in next line with brackets it was not working
mark7: just adding ';' at the end worked
mark7: struct ?
struct: You are doing the thor puzzle right?
mark7: yes
struct: he never needs to go north
mark7: thanks...
Uljahn: could inviting people to clash be considered a form of harassment? :thinking:
JBM: certainly
struct: I just cant undersand why there is no option to disable it
eulerscheZahl: and i don't have to be informed every time someone decides to follow me
eulerscheZahl: my last pings, most recent first:
CFSFPPFCFCCCWFFFFSFFSSSFFSFWFFFFPFSFWLF...
eulerscheZahl: c=clash, f=follow, s=solution comment, w=puzzle of the week
struct: If I unfollow and follow back, does it ping again?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: but not the unfollow
struct: stil
eulerscheZahl: did it work?
struct: yes
JBM: people comment solutions?
eulerscheZahl: 3 times?
struct: only pinged 1 time
struct: and only 1 notification
eulerscheZahl: i combined solution comments with comments on comments
eulerscheZahl: as C was taken for CoC
eulerscheZahl: so when i comment on a pending puzzle...
AntiSquid: - ss_con: series, state machine, 1
what format does it require for output :/
LoGos: Hi eulerscheZahl. Could I ask you which algorithm are you using in Bandas?
eulerscheZahl: monte carlo tree search
LoGos: me too
eulerscheZahl: others above me do the same but with higher rollout count
eulerscheZahl: some might be minimax
eulerscheZahl: robo has a neural network i think
LoGos: I just submitted pure mcts and I am just behind you
LoGos: that sounds nice
AntiSquid: nvm
eulerscheZahl: almost like we had the same idea :D
LoGos: yeah :laughing:
eulerscheZahl: are you using bitboards?
LoGos: yes. Bitsets in c++ to be specific
LoGos: Its easier to start with
eulerscheZahl: i see. again a similarity
LoGos: Heh. Bandas is such a nice contest to use bitboards
LoGos: you can do every move with it
eulerscheZahl: i still need a few cycles for one pushing action
eulerscheZahl: when you push many opponents with a single one of your units
LoGos: same
KobeL: Streaming clash of code over at:
https://twitch.tv/saintplaysthings
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/455353188
Astrobytes: Output is just one char AntiSquid
AntiSquid: but it says: ss_con: series, state machine, 1
Astrobytes: the 1 is the char count
AntiSquid: so i expect to do a series of outputs :/
Astrobytes: It's the worst statement ever
Astrobytes: Well, it's up there
struct: Yavalath has the worst statement ever
AntiSquid: wait did you solve #6 or not Astrobytes
Astrobytes: No not yet, just come back to it after a break
AntiSquid: maybe one day we have a contest like this ?
AntiSquid: *what a brilliant idea*
struct: I wish they really added timebank :(
Uljahn: AntiSquid: like reverse engineering UTG rules by leaked replays?
eulerscheZahl: or reverse engineering the fantastic bits game engine because the referee wasn't public? :D
AntiSquid: no, something more like breach
input is a and you need to output A or b based on other random characters!
struct: So long since I used SDK
struct: First time I see a thing that looks like an ad on CG
AntiSquid: what ad ?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/EWg6Lze.png
AntiSquid: good it's not a CoC advert?
eulerscheZahl: they are advertising the contest on tech.io
eulerscheZahl: and that playground is actually embedded from there
struct: Yeah
struct: Their yuotube video has a few amount of views
struct: 8.4k
eulerscheZahl: not bad
eulerscheZahl: curious about the prizes. might even be a little bigger considering the advertising
AntiSquid: for #6 i think i also need to make the dots green but no idea what exactly i need to look for
Astrobytes: yes AntiSquid, I'm trying a few things rn along those lines
Astrobytes: Well, inbetween my internet cutting out that is
Nerchio: my minmax in bandas is so dumb xD
Illedan: Same eulerscheZahl. Might be the difference between me taking 1 or 3 days off work :P
AntiSquid: well the design is exactly the same as Namco for the pacman they took down, interesting coincidence right? maybe it's sponsored by Namco
struct: Should be announced soon
AntiSquid: if it is big
eulerscheZahl: Illedan why not both?
AntiSquid: Namco Ltd. was a Japanese developer and publisher o
AntiSquid: was nvm
eulerscheZahl: and 2 as well, it's between the other two options
AntiSquid: https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/ is it this one?
AntiSquid: if that's the sponsor everyone should change to anime avatar in the spirit of the contest
AntiSquid: there's this pacman contest there:
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/news/bandai-namco-entertainment-inc-deliver-more-fun-everyone-home
Nerchio: my minmax was broke i was calling max from a max xD
jacek: aww
Nerchio: now it clearly can see its going to lose ;)
AntiSquid: looks pretty:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/441380/PACMAN_CHAMPIONSHIP_EDITION_2/
Illedan: So 4 days? :P
Illedan: Might as well do all 5 days then ^^
Nerchio: so bandas is not a balanced game right? you might be lost since the start
struct: What is written bellow arcade?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/dN8A2hw.png
jacek: so is onitama. they both start quite randomly
AntiSquid: bracket
struct: ty
AntiSquid: where did you get that from
struct: https://static.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=42443007839121
Nerchio: lol illedan
Nerchio: 2v10
Nerchio: https://www.codingame.com/replay/455371506
struct: Interesting the title says (2)
struct: Does it mean there are 2 more?
AntiSquid: it's pacman 2, that's it i think, a very loud game
AntiSquid: bomb jumps woot
AntiSquid: ya completely different from regular pacman
AntiSquid: ghost train lmao
Nerchio: you guys found the challenge?
struct: Im just wondering how 1vs1 pacman works
AntiSquid: uhm, i am just guessing
eulerscheZahl: if we would find it, we wouldn't tell it here but report it
eulerscheZahl: except for Benjamin, he shares replays
AntiSquid: guessing the sponsor is bandainamco since the offer pacman 2 for free atm on steam and they have a contest around the same time
AntiSquid: and pacman 2 has crazy new rules
AntiSquid: but there are no powerups like in the cover image
AntiSquid: so hard to tell exact contest
AntiSquid: maybe they troll us with the cover and it's something else
struct: Risk move
AntiSquid: well then some of my guesses have to be true
AntiSquid: seems like pacman 2 has some sort of velocity, MadKnight are you in?
Nerchio: noooooooooo no velocity pls
aCat: :cry_cat:
aCat: no physics please
struct: So long since a physics game
Uljahn: physics yes!
struct: But it probably wont be
struct: most likely
Astrobytes: BR2K was fun! Can't see them doing a physics one tho
eulerscheZahl: does code royale count as physics?
Astrobytes: Needless physics perhaps :smirk:
AntiSquid: you should play the game, it's really cool
Astrobytes: Code Royale?
AntiSquid: the ghost train btw:
https://imgur.com/a/ItQ79A9
AntiSquid: that's just pacman 2 from steam btw .
Uljahn: at first i thought about training ghost to fight by your side
AntiSquid: lol like pokemans
Astrobytes: 5 players and you swap roles
hozayfeh: Hello
Astrobytes: Hi
struct: It must be championship edition 2
struct: Its free until 10 may
eulerscheZahl: matches with the contest start
eulerscheZahl: the cg contest got delayed...
eulerscheZahl: was that game delayed too?
struct: idk
struct: But contest delay was long ago
Astrobytes: Hard to make a connection since it's the PacMan anniversary anyway
AntiSquid: really cool game though, you need to play it
VadimRusakov: Hello guys! I'm newcomer on this site. Can anyone give me advice, which bot is good to start? I just wanna check, how all it works, not wanna spend all my free time. Thx!
eulerscheZahl: OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
i don't think so
eulerscheZahl: if you like simple rules, try https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/breakthrough
Nerchio: give him something interesting please
Nerchio: xD
aCat: Ultimate TTT ?
eulerscheZahl: code of ice and fire is a good compromise between simple and interesting i think
aCat: really>
stacked: how do i just use a text editor instead of a full-blown IDE
aCat: it's overcomplicated for me
eulerscheZahl: mean max is you want a complicated physics engine
Astrobytes: LoCaM :smirk:
stacked: i jsut want text
aCat: Codebusters - always ;-)
eulerscheZahl: fog of war :scream:
aCat: but you don't care
Astrobytes: Vindinium?
eulerscheZahl: so many, just take one of them :D
VadimRusakov: O'k, thanks! (saved)
AntiSquid: imo this is simple, just if-else :
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/botters-of-the-galaxy
Astrobytes: Just try each one until you find something you like VadimRusakov :)
AntiSquid: other simple interesting:
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/code-of-kutulu VadimRusakov
aCat: Eventually say what type of programming do you like - or even better - read the rules of the few ones and see what suits you best
aCat: damn - noone mentioned Tron oO
eulerscheZahl: or watch replays
AntiSquid: ya Astrobytes gave best advice, nobody can decide for you what you like
Astrobytes: You did aCat :P
aCat: yes - replays may be even better
aCat: ^^'
aCat: for physics Quiddich may be more fun than madmax
Astrobytes: aka Fantastic Bits
aCat: :* this cat thanks you
Astrobytes: Your a wizard aCat :P
Astrobytes: *You're
Astrobytes: Are you gonna make a game soon aCat?
aCat: btw what was the name for this full graphics puzzle?
aCat: maybe a game, maybe a puzzle but with graphics
Astrobytes: Cool
aCat: what I really want to do is a full-fledged contest
aCat: not a middlesteps ;]
Astrobytes: As long as you prepare and organise everything CG will do it
Astrobytes: So they said, at least
aCat: yeah, so I need a team ;p
Astrobytes: Ask for volunteers/contributers/testers
aCat: Will do
Astrobytes: Maybe post on the Discord and forum
aCat: after I will remind myself SDK, survive contest, and a few deadlines ;p
Astrobytes: Hehe, busy schedule eh :)
aCat: yeah
aCat: Had 5 papers to review for CoG ;p
AntiSquid: acat create duel disks with holograms like in yugioh anime lol
Astrobytes: Only 5 :P Nice
aCat: only
Astrobytes: :D
aCat: damn you bad human beaing
aCat: worst
aCat: they were mostly not good quality ;/
Astrobytes: I was just gonna ask, were they good lol
Astrobytes: Painful experience then
aCat: one was nice, one informative but not much of their own contribution
aCat: rest bleh
Astrobytes: 1/5 is OK. Have you read any scientific journals recently? :P So much crap.
aCat: except the things I was reviewing ;p
aCat: probably not xD
aCat: I should have to catch up on some bunch of papers
aCat: Not ask Radek to read them for me :D
Astrobytes: :D
aCat: (lazy cat)
Astrobytes: Nothing wrong with that :)
Nerchio: unleash the geek was so popular because it was sponsored?
Astrobytes: There was a big prize iirc Nerchio
struct: I can help if you want
Astrobytes: That and it was easy to get started
struct: I still think I remember a few things about sdk
Nerchio: i mean i didnt play but it looks cool
Nerchio: lots of people played too
struct: The only reason I dont use SDK a lot is lack of ideas
Uljahn: there was a private hackathon prior to contest
Nerchio: 7500 contestants and only 90ppl in legend ;o
AntiSquid: oh yeah UTG had good prizes :o
AntiSquid: lol Nerchio that's number of people signed up
aCat: I have nooo problem with ideas ;p
Nerchio: antisquid i know but comparatively to ooc its still small number
AntiSquid: number of arena bots is lower
AntiSquid: and number of people that don't quit in wood / bronze even lower
Nerchio: 2300 ooc / 64 legend
AntiSquid: code a la mode had a humongous legend
Nerchio: and this is like 7500/90
Uljahn: ah those numbers, reminds me of D voting support
Nerchio: i need to try some multiagent game too :p
struct: Still hardest legend to this day
struct: Is bit runner
AntiSquid: botters Nerchio
Uljahn: uttt in python
Nerchio: bit runner is a team game ? what
struct: no
struct: 1vs1
AntiSquid: there are no real team games
struct: Code a la mode is coop
Nerchio: bit runner 2048 by illedan
Nerchio: ah ok was just confusing to look at since 1 guy has 2 colors and the other one the same
Nerchio: im not sure if a 'team game' would be cool or a nightmare
Nerchio: so you get paired with another random bot to 2v2
Nerchio: not really pre-picked teams
struct: Some people would not like it
Astrobytes: Ooof trictrac top in TaD with 43.05 points!
struct: I guess he started using search
Astrobytes: Yes he switched to a minimax the other day
Astrobytes: Are you playing anything atm struct?
struct: no
Astrobytes: Feeling uninspired?
struct: Waiting for contest
Astrobytes: *Waiting for last day of contest :P
struct: I just hope Ill enjoy the contest
Astrobytes: Yeah, you didn't like OOC right.
What kind of contest (other than physics-based) would you prefer?
struct: I dont really now, sometime I just struggle with some stuff, I keep trying to do the complicated stuff first
struct: And lose motivation
Astrobytes: Seems you need to stop doing that then
Astrobytes: And work iteratively
aCat: yeah... iteration one - rewrite the game engine ^^'
struct: Probably what I have to do for Yinsh
struct: :(
Astrobytes: Yeah but the point was, optimise after you have something working
struct: My steps
step1: write one line
step2: optimize it
Astrobytes: That's why you keep getting bogged down and stuck :shrug:
struct: true
Uljahn: my steps: optimize it.
no code, just headache
Uljahn: any clues on #6 breach?
Astrobytes: meta-optimisation
Astrobytes: I still haven't got it Uljahn, I'll go back to it tomorrow
Uljahn: the last unsolved
Astrobytes: Well played
RoboStac: which ones 6?
Uljahn: literal lock
RoboStac: oh, that one
Astrobytes: It seems to make sense, then it doesn't
Uljahn: or you mean the breach puzzle :confused:
RoboStac: what have you tried for it so far?
Astrobytes: Trying to get the first colour G, removing all the reds, getting the second colour (the dots I presume) green
Astrobytes: I'm guessing the lowercase ones must be all the same but not so sure for the uppercase ones
RoboStac: the case isn't relevant at all, it's just to allow more colour codes
Oioi: Hi. Did someone do the winamax challenge ?
Astrobytes: By lowercase I'm referring to the second colour in each term of the sequence
Uljahn: second color is often r but sometimes g
Astrobytes: Yes, and the g seems to fit btu not always
Astrobytes: In terms of lighting up the dots
Astrobytes: I gave myself a headache with this earlier
RoboStac: it sounds like you've found everything you need to
Uljahn: also that VO, if V is violet what is O
Astrobytes: OK, I'll revisit it tomorrow with a clearer head ;)
Uljahn: me too
Uljahn: the morning is wiser than the evening as they say here
RoboStac: the O is just an O at the end to signal its open I think (it's not relevant in anyway)
Uljahn: thx
Astrobytes: yeah cheers Robo :+1:
RoboStac: if you get stuck theres a massive hint for that one on the forum too
Uljahn: ouch
Astrobytes: meh, I'd prefer not to :D
Uljahn: ah, there are turns in state machine
Uljahn: jeez
Astrobytes: That was messing me up earlier, that's why I stopped
Uljahn: also i never watched replays, big mistake
AntiSquid: so i was right, there are bloody turns
Uljahn: "you are only expected to output a single character per turn on ss_con" - why don't just put it in the statement
virgo: Hi
Astrobytes: I figured that out from gs_m Uljahn
virgo: I've joined today there, and seems great!
Astrobytes: Well, it was a guess that the digit meant the length of char output
AntiSquid: it's all my fault, i advertised that puzzle in the chat :'(
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: Where did you see that statement Uljahn?
Uljahn: discussion tab
struct: Whats next, stenography puzzles?
Astrobytes: Ach you fairy, trying to do it with no forum hints :D
Uljahn: sorry
AntiSquid: ECG prediction puzzle
Uljahn: gn then :)
Astrobytes: yeah I mentioned that earlier struct lol
Astrobytes: I'll forgive you this time Uljahn ;)
Astrobytes: gn
stacked: i lost the room chat
stacked: rip
stacked: :no_mouth:
Nerchio: ?
AndreiVoinea: hi
