ironspidey: hi
MadKnight: hihi
AnSeDra: hi:smiley:
MadKnight: what are u solving ?
AnSeDra: Clash of Code
MadKnight: why not bot programming ?
AnSeDra: I want to be able to be sure that I can do well under presure
Marchete: 1bar is a good pressure
sid12123: hi
jacek: dang, this checkers engine cannot do looped jumps. this is what you get for porting some random engine from github
linjoehan: ha I had the same error in the first version of that game.
ZarthaxX: an icon that is to share the video
Coder613: right then i found your profile but i cant figure out past that
Coder613: https://www.codingame.com/replay/494148189
Coder613: got it!!
Coder613: I think I figured it out. Thanks so much ZarthaxX you were very helpful.
ZarthaxX: okey
ZarthaxX: nice :P
ZarthaxX: have fun!
Coder613: thanks you too!
dip10: Hii
jacek: ohai
sid12123: ohaiyo
Marchete: jacek, do you have some stub code for your jacekmax?
jacek: no :c
jacek: it should be relatively easy to convert mcts into jacekmax
justacoder: Does anyone know why the "angle" randomly jumps from +INT to -INT in Coders Strike Back?
justacoder: -7, +2, -27, -28 is the data captured as I pass a point
justacoder: The +2 seems out of step
MSmits: I am guessing it's between -180 and +180 ?
justacoder: Yeah. Normally.
MSmits: don't remember exactly, but it should be easy to figure out.
MSmits: also the angle has nothing to do with your position
MSmits: just the direction you're facing
MSmits: so it doesnt matter that you pass a point
MSmits: unless it's making you rotate
justacoder: That is a good point, no pun intended. I will just track the angle to the next point manually. Thank you.
MSmits: yeah thats possible too. np
thanhhv317: hi
magaiti: if the direction your pod is facing does not coincide with the direction of your velocity vector (which is generally the case in csb), then -7 +2 is a perfectly ordinary sequence of angles to a point
magaiti: i presume -27 -28 are angles to the next point
JoeFather: any real ppl?
magaiti: im i a joke to you?
magaiti: jk im totally imaginary
jacek: Automaton2000 really?
jacek: :(
magaiti: omg hes ded
magaiti: Automaton2000 where ar u
magaiti: noooo
jacek: just was dead for awhile
MSmits: I can imitate Automaton2000 if you want
MSmits: because the code is in the minimax to get you promoted
MSmits: or I can do AutomatonNN
MSmits: eulerscheZahl do you know how to code the python in the json?
magaiti: Automaton69, just testing
MadKnight: hey guys
MadKnight: quick question on python
MadKnight: so there's
[x for x in arr]
MadKnight: but what if i wanna put multiple values per x in arr ?
MadKnight: like
[(x+1, x+3) for x in arr]
MadKnight: how can i do that ?
Uljahn: :confused:
MadKnight: Uljahn tell me
MadKnight: u gotta know
MadKnight: u 100% know it
Cybgy: I think you have already did that
Uljahn: ^
MadKnight: that didn't work
MadKnight: that made it an array of iterators
Cybgy: any example
Uljahn: should be a list of tuples
MadKnight: [(x0+1, x0+3), (x1+1, x1+3)]
SPDene: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/979928b0-1710-4cdc-bb1b-2aeac6343d1e
MadKnight: and i need
[x0+1, x0+3, x1+1, x1+3]
Uljahn: so what's your arr?
Cybgy: okay
MadKnight: SPDene i need
[2, 4, 3, 5, 4, 6]
Uljahn: itertools.chain?
MadKnight: no i have
arr = [1, 2, 3]
MadKnight: and i need to get
[2, 4, 3, 5, 4, 6]
Uljahn: try itertools.chain then
MadKnight: isn't that something different ?
MadKnight: how do u suggest me to use itertools ?
MadKnight: chain
Uljahn: ezpz
MadKnight: u want me to turn it into 3 steps ?
SPDene: this might help https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27454390/how-to-flatten-a-list-of-tuples-into-a-pythonic-list
Cybgy: :joy:
MadKnight: can't i avoid turning it into multiple steps like
[1, 2, 3] -> [(2, 4), (3, 5), (4, 6)] -> [2, 4, 3, 5, 4, 6] ?
Cybgy: You did it #SPDene
MadKnight: is there really no way to avoid the step with [()()()] ?
Cybgy: But still 3 steps
Uljahn: np.array(arr).ravel() :thinking:
MadKnight: that doesn't avoid the step
Cybgy: [y for x in [(m+1,m+3) for m in arr] for y in x]
Cybgy: it works
SPDene: or [x+n for n in [1,3] for x in arr]
SPDene: (i may have messed up the order there)
SPDene: yeah : use [x+n for x in arr for n in [1,3]]
Cybgy: the first sounds good
Cybgy: https://pastebin.com/raw/VyYqC3iy
MikeKlymenko: one who is not sharing code must be cheating for sure using copy-paste from web
Cybgy: ??
MikeKlymenko: that was a general statement - agree of disagree
MikeKlymenko: *or
Cybgy: I disagree
MikeKlymenko: why to hide?
MikeKlymenko: I am talking about Clash of Code
Cybgy: Sometimes it's better to solve it by yourself
MikeKlymenko: problem solving
SPDene: disagree... sometimes i just write terrible code, and don't want people to judge me on it
MikeKlymenko: But you can't see until you have done
Cybgy: :neutral_face:
WINWINWIN: MikeKlymenko there are other reasons why some people don't share. One classic reason is that problems repeat, so they don't want other people to know their solution
WINWINWIN: for example, in a shortest, if I find the best possible solution, I won't want others to know that solution
DomiKo: in reverse too
WINWINWIN: Yes
MikeKlymenko: omg you consider it not like an educational tool but like real-life money competion. This is so lame
Cybgy: Sometimes I felt the need of having an option to save puzzles, but then I realize that there is no need for that at the first place
Astrobytes: If you want education then do puzzles not clashes
MikeKlymenko: best solution to what? life saving problem?
Cybgy: Well said
Astrobytes: clashes are competitive, the clue is in the name
MikeKlymenko: I do both
Astrobytes: oh hey WINWINWIN o/
MikeKlymenko: clashes for programming drills, puzzles for algorithms
Cybgy: Clashes are like random tests
MSmits: MikeKlymenko I also find it illuminating that if there was money to be won, you would consider it normal to be competitive, but as long as there is no money, all should be shared
Astrobytes: Clashes are just for fun, if you want to get serious try bot programming
Cybgy: you must research why you failed
Astrobytes: good point MSmits
MikeKlymenko: I like shares to see alternative to mine solutions, especially in different languages
Cybgy: best way take a screenshot of the puzzle
MSmits: MikeKlymenko many people do share. That doesn't mean all should, it's a personal choice, as it should be
MSmits: in fact, in other parts of this site, you're not even allowed to share code
Cybgy: if that's plausible than there won't be a need of having puzzles
MSmits: so it's not that natural to do so
MikeKlymenko: It makes sense to compete for limited tresources like money, but not in an educational problem
MSmits: it makes sense to you
MSmits: it makes sense to me to also be competitive in things that are just for fun
Cybgy: Well it's there own right
Cybgy: share or not
Cybgy: But it's a good practice to do
MSmits: I respect people who share indeed
Cybgy: Yeah, we can't debate on this topic
Cybgy: it's a choice
MikeKlymenko: fun to hide your solution instead of sharing it? it sounds like a psychological issue
Cybgy: May be
Cybgy: for some
MSmits: MikeKlymenko if you understand competition at all, you know the fun is not in the hiding
MSmits: it's finding the best ways to win
MSmits: and winning
Astrobytes: as SPDene said, sometimes people write atrocious code that they don't want to show, others want to stay competitive, others simply forget to share
Astrobytes: The focus is on solving the task, not "oh I must share my code"
MSmits: yeah the fun is also in the solving
Cybgy: It's kind a rare code that we write sometimes
Cybgy: which even we ourselves don't want to share
MSmits: there are so many ways to compete in games. do you think it's normal for everyone to share all their strategies openly. Or do you think it's normal for people to keep as much of their strategy hidden?
MSmits: I think it's the second in most online competition
MSmits: it only feels different for coding, because code is always so freely shared in other ways
MSmits: like stack overflow and such
MSmits: but it doesn't have to be
Astrobytes: unless you're euler and give it away in chat halfway through the week :P
Cybgy: lol
MSmits: I do this too, often Astrobytes
Astrobytes: ah yes, true
MSmits: only most players will read my stuff and think, meh that sounds like too much work
MikeKlymenko: Ok, I see, probably I have chosen the wrong place to drill coding if you play here in coding with a strategy
MSmits: MikeKlymenko also realize you're talking on CG world chat
MSmits: most of us dont even do clashes
Astrobytes: I can't see how you would form that conclusion but... ok I guess
MSmits: we compete in bot games with 1000 line programs
MikeKlymenko: though I have studied plenty of stuff from others here
Cybgy: Mike don't take it like that
Uljahn: i guess CG is not really an educational platform, but a great opportunity to educate yourself through challenges
MikeKlymenko: it would be a good motivation to attend such places, but no
Astrobytes: You can learn a whole lot on here
MSmits: Uljahn it's pretty educational though
Cybgy: Your wish Mike
MikeKlymenko: yes I agree I had learned indeed
MSmits: it just isn't mandatory to teach others
Astrobytes: No Uljahn described it well I think
MSmits: and thats fine
MikeKlymenko: This just annihilate the idea of this place
MSmits: you're overstating it
Cybgy: This place is about bot fights
MSmits: mostly yeah
Astrobytes: (and puzzles, some only do puzzles)
Cybgy: Which makes it beautiful
Cybgy: Others sites have only words
MSmits: if people shared their bot code it would completely ruin any leaderboard
Cybgy: lol
MSmits: instead people share ideas
Cybgy: I can't dream of that even
MSmits: about strategy
MikeKlymenko: I prefer to do puzzels on othe rsites, I am here only for speeding up codin gin certaing languages by momorizing idioms
MSmits: and it's up to you to code it
Astrobytes: Not sure if clashes are the way to do that, people usually write fast and dirty solutions
MikeKlymenko: I appreciate the idioms I have studied in Clashes
Cybgy: Idioms, oh yeah i got that
MikeKlymenko: That is what I call idioms
MSmits: MikeKlymenko do you honestly find yourself hampered in learning because some dont share? I did maybe 50 clashes for the quests and I found a lot of people that shared and taught me a lot
MikeKlymenko: fast and dirty and short
Astrobytes: I don't see how golfing applies to real world problems
Cybgy: Well it does
Astrobytes: (for the most part)
MSmits: ask Trump
MSmits: :P
Astrobytes: lol
Cybgy: visit NASA
Cybgy: Astro
Astrobytes: Yeah sure
Cybgy: :sweat_smile:
Astrobytes: But that's also about efficiency, not just writing cryptic one liners
Cybgy: lol MSmits
MikeKlymenko: I have realized that C++, C and sometimes Python guys are usaully keen on sharing, while Java and ruby people are hiding for some reasons
Cybgy: That's how you saw that
MSmits: ruby is almost a specialized clash language because it's usually the shortest
MSmits: people who use ruby probably try to be very competitive
Astrobytes: ^
MSmits: dunno about java
Cybgy: Ahhhhhh, ruby
Cybgy: they chokes my python
MSmits: I only tried python anyway , thats the language i learned some stuff for in clashes
MSmits: i dont even look at ruby code
MikeKlymenko: me too
MikeKlymenko: I am curious though they are doing it fast
Einwickler: People who dont share their solutions when winning are a real problem for this community :(
MSmits: MikeKlymenko i recommend you look at some bot arenas if you feel like it, then you will get the real idea of Codingame
Cybgy: Again
Cybgy: @Einwickler
MSmits: clashes are just fluff imho
MikeKlymenko: alright thanks
Cybgy: have a good day
Einwickler: Cybgby ? :thinking:
Cybgy: ??
MSmits: hey Astrobytes, I got 10 seed db to work in Oware, usually done generating on the 40th ply or so. But my bot does way better when i stop at 9
MSmits: because of cache efficiency and the fact that i can spend more time searching
Astrobytes: ah so it wasn't really worth going further after all
Einwickler: you wrote "again" and then "@Einwickler" dont really get what to do with that :D
MSmits: 9 was already an improvement, because i had 8 before, and needed 40 plies to get the 9 finished. The cache change thingy basically got me an extra seed
Astrobytes: Einwickler: I think he was referring to the fact you were echoing the sentiments expressed by Mike in previous messages
MSmits: gonna look at doing it offline soon. See if i can make my meta mcts better with a 20-24 db (realistically)
Astrobytes: Something tells me it should help
MSmits: probably, if only to make the rollouts shorter
MSmits: but i guess also more accurate
Astrobytes: Yes, more accurate
MSmits: I think maybe I should try jacekmax first
MSmits: it seems so easy
MSmits: did you try it Astrobytes ?
MSmits: I think it will take you an hour at most
Astrobytes: was just gonna say, it seems trivial to implement. No not yet, but I plan to at some point
MSmits: ah ok. I am afraid that my eval is not suitable for it, then i try it and it wont be better
MSmits: not looking forward to refitting everything just to come to the conclusion its not better
Astrobytes: This is something to be aware of, considering how much effort jacek went to for his evals
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: my bot has one advantage over jacek
MSmits: it's much faster and searches deeper
MSmits: so the eval can be worse
MSmits: but still
Astrobytes: it's a tradeoff yeah, but whether it's a good one remains to be seen
MSmits: I am making assumptions here, but it's pretty safe to assume a NN eval is extremely slow
Astrobytes: doesn't have to be fast if it's good enough, that tradeoff again
MSmits: yeah
Dartisan: For those who interest, in 15 minutes the online conference on Graph Databases (Neo4J) starts: https://neo4j.com/nodes-2020/?node=438614
jacek: yhm
Shadowtick: meem
Shadowtick: morning everyone
jacek: morning eh?
kiil-code: hi
kiil-code: #killcodeownchat
Shadowtick: I am getting triggered at myself because I can't make the song I want to make
kiil-code: why not
Shadowtick: I don't know why probably because I can't find out a good rhythm or tempo
kiil-code: oh
Astrobytes: try 11/8 @ 200 bpm
Shadowtick: yeah but if you wanna hear how it is rn then I can send you the link kiil-code
kiil-code: ok
MSmits: mmh my jacekmax seems to run bug free, but its bad. I am suspecting a minussign somewhere :P
ZarthaxX: what is a jacekmax? :P
MSmits: it's uct guided minimax
eulerscheZahl: the response to hte superiority of GAimax
kiil-code: dang
ZarthaxX: GAimax?
ZarthaxX: MSmits wait, it's a minmax guided like mcts?
eulerscheZahl: https://cg.spdns.eu/wiki/Chat:World/2020-05-28
eulerscheZahl: cegprakash: it's negamax
cegprakash: there is nothing called maximax
MSmits: yes ZarthaxX it's very close to what i do with early play out termination
ZarthaxX: so it determines the order in which it explores the childs?
MSmits: where i backpropagate an eval
ZarthaxX: mhmm
kiil-code: ya
ZarthaxX: but it's actually building a tree in memory?
ZarthaxX: not just a dfs minmax
MSmits: the only difference is that instead of adding up all the evals and calculating the average, it keeps taking the minimax value
MSmits: its building a tree yes
kiil-code: ya
MSmits: and using the eval for UCT
MSmits: instead of wins/visits
jacek: its like mcts, but you eval instead of simulation and you overwrite in negamax style
ZarthaxX: so it's like your mcts solver part?
ZarthaxX: okey
kiil-code: sure
MSmits: it's very similar, it took me 10 mins to rewrite
ZarthaxX: and how does it work?
Astrobytes: it goes brrrrrr
MSmits: well you prefer nodes that have a better score, like mcts
MSmits: and you balance exploration with exploitation
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes sometimes i wonder how you got mod :rofl:
jacek: or mk
Astrobytes: me too :D
jacek: almost I got mod
eulerscheZahl: but you refused
ZarthaxX: MSmits yes that'e theorical
jacek: im responsible
ZarthaxX: i just wanted to know practice wise :P
MSmits: you mean how well does it work
Astrobytes: I'm actually really helpful most of the time
MSmits: ah
eulerscheZahl: responsible enough to refuse
MSmits: well its undecided
MSmits: since jacek combines it with a NN
ZarthaxX: oh hell
jacek: it works better for me. vs normal negamax i get 70%+ winrate
MSmits: but that shouldnt matter all that much
jacek: which is alpha beta + iterativ deepening. nothing fancy
ZarthaxX: many users using ML nowdays
MSmits: my EPT also gets that much of a winrate against any of my negamaxes
Astrobytes: yeah that's why I switched from negamax to ept in oware back then
ZarthaxX: okey
ZarthaxX: and what is ept
MSmits: mcts with eval instead of simulation
Astrobytes: early playout termination
MSmits: so instead of -1.0,1 you get an eval
ZarthaxX: ah well so it has a name
MSmits: often there is also a simulation, but its short
ZarthaxX: early player termination ept?
MSmits: ours is 0 length
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: playout
ZarthaxX: i see
MSmits: so you dont play the game out all the way
ZarthaxX: it's necessary in these games hinestly
MSmits: it is
kiil-code: ya
MSmits: the ept thing really does remove any advantage minimax has over mcts i think
ZarthaxX: mmmm
MSmits: because you got an eval
MSmits: well 1 thing maybe
MSmits: minimax is better at TT
ZarthaxX: it still doesnt explore the tree entirely up to one point
ZarthaxX: so maybe you still lose on smth
jacek: int c = i % i; how the hell it didnt crash?
ZarthaxX: lmao
MSmits: it just balance depth and width of the tree is all
MSmits: like mcts
MSmits: how you balance that is a parameter
anjaniacatus: hello
MSmits: (exploration)
ZarthaxX: i was talking solely about mcts with the ept
ZarthaxX: not the jacekmax thingy
anjaniacatus: :confused:
jacek: ohai
MSmits: they are really almost the same
ZarthaxX: hi anjaniacatus
ZarthaxX: mmm
MSmits: btw, i even kept in my mcts solver
MSmits: i didnt use the eval to solve
MSmits: because how would you know it's a draw?
jacek: well mcts is meh for trappy games but NN can mitigate that
ZarthaxX: i think it's way different to not gather statistics and do a minmax instead
ZarthaxX: but well
MSmits: i mean
MSmits: ept is similar to jacekmax
MSmits: they both gather statistics
MSmits: its just what they do with the eval exactly is different, but the difference is maybe 10 lines of code
jacek: i think they could be equivalent given appriopately tuned exploration
ZarthaxX: but you backpropagate diff stuff
MSmits: they could be, but the parameters will be different
MSmits: yea ZarthaxX
ZarthaxX: one is acummulating and the other minmaxing
ZarthaxX: i would get to think that it changes
ZarthaxX: but well
MSmits: exactly, but accumulating also leads to some form of minimax
MSmits: it;s just more fuzzy
jacek: that would be handy, if mcts will find refutation its gonna take some time to statistics to be more significant. in minimax it is already done
MSmits: i think maybe oware likes the fuzzy because evaling it is not that easy
MSmits: yeah thats the thing with minimax, it's immediately done, mcts leaves a bit more room for error
MSmits: it averages out
MSmits: both have advantages
ZarthaxX: MSmits i see
MSmits: i honestly dont know which way is better
MSmits: and i bet it depends on the game as well
kiil-code: hi
MSmits: its too bad jacek does his NN thing, but if he did not, there would be another issue
MSmits: i tend to have very fast sims
MSmits: so also unfair comparison
MSmits: maybe if i can really do this jacekmax well we can have an idea which is better, but i need to do a lot of work fitting params =/
jacek: yay for the nonlinearity of eval
MSmits: yea
MSmits: so do you think i should just use an arena, add your +- 0.2 randomness on moves and fit vs myself jacek?>
MSmits: been using cg bench before, just picking 5 opponents
jacek: you could try. i dont know you optimized your params
jacek: how
MSmits: i did self play first in oware, that was bad
MSmits: but i did not do the +- thing
MSmits: i think self play works for a ballpark value
MSmits: at least
MSmits: submitted a version, we'll see what it does
MSmits: i think maybe rank 15 or so
MSmits: o it beat royale
MSmits: twice, 11 wins in a row
MSmits: getting some losses it's not supposed to though, tric trac and renard
MSmits: so not bad at first
MSmits: but needs improvement
kiil-code: hi
MadKnight: hihi
kiil-code: wyd
Unkmar: I am passing up more clashes than participating. So many are awful.
kiil-code: oh dang
kiil-code: the teacher is so annoying
MadKnight: u can play games here at home too, kiil-code
CosmicStudios: if you play clash of code i will haunt your souls
kiil-code: why not
CosmicStudios: lol jk
Monstrux: guys, im new, hows it going? everyone keeping well?
CosmicStudios: yes
CosmicStudios: i double ass chrome
jacek: oO
CosmicStudios: I'm KIller Chrome
Shadowtick: hello everyone
Shrimpster: Hello World
kiil-code: no you ain't
kiil-code: chill
kiil-code: ok
dusan0611: Hi, can somebody sovle this puzzle? I cant fint right algorithm. https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/aneo
dusan0611: *find
kiil-code: sure
dusan0611: What algorithm i must use to solve it ?
MadKnight: just foreach
MadKnight: just some method
kiil-code: ye\a
kiil-code: ya
jacek: random
kiil-code: ya
jacek: eeyup
kiil-code: hi
Monstrux: Any1 solve the ASCII art?
Monstrux: any tips? dont want to see other solutions
kiil-code: me ether
cosmiccommand: i did the ASCII art
MadKnight: gj
Monstrux: nice one comic!
kiil-code: ya
thanhhv317: Hi
thanhhv317: Now, here at 10:30PM
jacek: good for you
AviLevi: .
colinemonds: why do all the chat tabs that I have already closed keep coming back
eulerscheZahl: known bug
jacek: Automaton2000 where are you?
Automaton2000: and you still have to check that
jacek: yes
Scarfield: jacek2000
eulerscheZahl: and AutomatonNN?
AutomatonNN: от к post it for the contest
jacek: oO
eulerscheZahl: :(
Scarfield: worked for about a day though
eulerscheZahl: a kick well worth it
Scarfield: "kick the baby"
Scarfield: MadKnight have you heard anything from struct recently?
jacek: maybe AutomatonNN did
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the code in the code command and you will see the link to the pu
eulerscheZahl: i'm tempted to kick again
eulerscheZahl: by the chat moderation rules I hereby give you a fair warning automaton NN
Scarfield: xD
Bubaptik: here have this drama fish <*)))><
__Nilu__: ;0
jacek: oO
DejaVu_081: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/559587746ce1ae98f1bc73a8993c40e4f9a1
PLEASE TEST İT
Skeenie: will i get xp for completing it
eulerscheZahl: no Skeenie
MadKnight: eulerscheZahl AutomatonNN does not speak english
AutomatonNN: keep it in the chat
MadKnight: u can't give warnings in a way he cannot understand
MadKnight: u gotta speak Automaton language
YamYohan: :heart_eyes:
MadKnight: Automaton2000, what's your language ?
eulerscheZahl: double negation. so he'll understand any warning, no matter what way?
Automaton2000: i wanna try it out?
eulerscheZahl: and why am i writing "he" instead of "it"?
Astrobytes: I am guilty of the same annoying habit
MadKnight: double negation means u need to give warnings in ways he can understand
Excetra: Astro are you here all day every day or something
Scarfield: HestroBytes
MadKnight: i think he just has his chat open in the background, Excetra
MadKnight: while working
Excetra: Ah ok
Astrobytes: I'm usually logged in but my focus is mostly elsewhere during the day Excetra
Astrobytes: Yes, what MadKnight said
Excetra: Ah right ok
eulerscheZahl: stay focused, than you can answer faster than MK
eulerscheZahl: then*
eulerscheZahl: as we are talking about focus
Astrobytes: just stare at CG chat all day eh
eulerscheZahl: yes. i'm afk cat time
Astrobytes: laters
jacek: now cat time, not frog time
Excetra: dang these puzzles are hard
MadKnight: it's always Automaton2000 time
Automaton2000: one thing i don't like it
Excetra: these things hurt my breain
Excetra: brain
kiil-code: nice
DejaVu_081: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/559587746ce1ae98f1bc73a8993c40e4f9a1
DejaVu_081: PLEASE TEST THAT
kiil-code: ok ok
DejaVu_081: HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/559587746ce1ae98f1bc73a8993c40e4f9a1
kiil-code: its good
DejaVu_081: realy?
NotSpice: I dig it
DejaVu_081: @kill-code?
DejaVu_081: Did you?
kiil-code: yea
kiil-code: i did
DejaVu_081: I'm so happy now
DejaVu_081: can you click "UPVOTED" button? :D
kiil-code: yea
kiil-code: done
DejaVu_081: thx
kiil-code: np
kiil-code: hi
Romil: Hello Guys. :)
DejaVu_081: hi
DejaVu_081: what is the validators
Romil: I solved weekly challenge. :)
Romil: But I am not satisfied with my approach/code. :(
Romil: I am wondering.. can I see other's code ?? :no_mouth:
DejaVu_081: did you check my contribute?
kiil-code: ya
DejaVu_081: no
kiil-code: what
DejaVu_081: I asked to Romil
kiil-code: oh
DejaVu_081: :D
Romil: I don't know what it is and how to see it. :no_mouth:
eulerscheZahl: Romil https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/chess-board-analyzer/solution
h3x: obey the claw
eulerscheZahl: there you can see other solutions in the same language as you used
kiil-code: why should i
Romil: Thank You very much euler. :D
DejaVu_081: Romil
DejaVu_081: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/559587746ce1ae98f1bc73a8993c40e4f9a1
DejaVu_081: this is my first contribution
Astrobytes: DejaVu_081: Stop it. We know, you posted it many times already. People will see your contribution in the Contributions section.
DejaVu_081: sorry for that
DejaVu_081: I will not do again
Astrobytes: No problem, just be patient and people will review your contribution
kiil-code: wow
kiil-code: mean
kiil-code: nice
kiil-code: i like
DejaVu_081: I am waiting patiently ...
Astrobytes: there are 30 days left to validate
kiil-code: onları dinlemek zorunda değilsin
Astrobytes: stop it kiil-code
kiil-code: what
kiil-code: did i do
eulerscheZahl: i always see repeated sharing of a contribution as a challenge to downvote
Astrobytes: kiil-code: 1. this is World chat, English only.
2. telling him not to listen to us
kiil-code: oooooh
kiil-code: im scared
DejaVu_081: hey hey... please stop. My fold
eulerscheZahl: we know google translate
kiil-code: :joy:
kiil-code: ooh
DejaVu_081: my fault
kiil-code: no its not
DejaVu_081: hey kill-code. stop
kiil-code: اضربني
Astrobytes: as you wish
eulerscheZahl: i saw that coming
Astrobytes: indeed
Scarfield: DejaVu_081 as astro said np, you listened to the reasoning :) you can autocomplete names to ping another user sca -> tab
DejaVu_081: Scarfield Ok I did it
DejaVu_081: thx for everything
Scarfield: :)
Astrobytes: and good luck for your contribution too :)
DejaVu_081: :)
DejaVu_081: Astrobytes Can I learn your views? Or is it forbidden to ask this? If it's forbidden I really don't ask about contribution again :D
Astrobytes: DejaVu_081: I don't do clashes so it wouldn't be fair for me to comment on it unfortunately!
DejaVu_081: 👍🏻
GGgugge360: The noob just made Mars langing 1
GGgugge360: Landing' srry for my trash typing
Astrobytes: well done
GGgugge360: Thanks Astobytes
GGgugge360: Trying hard
GGgugge360: and it seem to work
GGgugge360: BTW have you done "Power of thor - Episode 1"?
Astrobytes: yup
GGgugge360: i can show my code
GGgugge360: I actually just used cords
Astrobytes: First: make sure you update thor's position and don't just output the directions
eulerscheZahl: do you update thor's position? missing that is a common problem
eulerscheZahl: :D
Astrobytes: :D
GGgugge360: I made around that XD
eulerscheZahl: ok, share the code
GGgugge360: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/b60c5043-9326-4c19-851d-4981f59b29c4
eulerscheZahl: pastebins are back \o/
GGgugge360: remember to change the player to thorX and thorY
eulerscheZahl: and you are hardcoding
Astrobytes: ^
GGgugge360: kind of
Astrobytes: that will not work at all
GGgugge360: Gave up on algorythms
GGgugge360: ooh
GGgugge360: u didnt change the player to thorX and thorY
eulerscheZahl: if (initialTY > lightY) {System.out.print("N"); initialTY--;}
eulerscheZahl: should be something like this
GGgugge360: ik ik
Astrobytes: Think about where thor is in relation to the light, and adjust thor accordinly
Astrobytes: *accordingly
GGgugge360: i juast changed the "initialT" to "thor"
GGgugge360: including the X and Y
GGgugge360: ill scan of my whole code for ya
kill-code: hi
GGgugge360: here
Astrobytes: look at what euler wrote GGgugge360
GGgugge360: delete everything and use this whole script
GGgugge360: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4d2867cc-8482-4284-a581-be4e5cc8b0ff
Astrobytes: initialTY = thor y
GGgugge360: initialTY -> thorY
kill-code: hi
GGgugge360: hi there
kill-code: wyd
GGgugge360: The GG noob is checking in
eulerscheZahl: Thor has some more hidden testcases that you can't even see
GGgugge360: here
kill-code: oh
GGgugge360: use this on the thor test
GGgugge360: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1a1eef0f-c244-4af2-9f0f-11097df9e6b1
GGgugge360: remember to blank everything
GGgugge360: i copied from start to end
kill-code: me
GGgugge360: if you want
kill-code: nice
GGgugge360: did it work?
kill-code: no it pulled me up to a blank screen
GGgugge360: :/
GGgugge360: It worked for me..
GGgugge360: euler did it work for you?
eulerscheZahl: i didn't try it
eulerscheZahl: i have a working solution already
kill-code: cool
GGgugge360: :dissapointed:
GGgugge360: :disappointed:
GGgugge360: (bad typing i know)
eulerscheZahl: i already gave you some code how to solve it
GGgugge360: want to see my mars lander :worried:
eulerscheZahl: just do the same for the other directions
eulerscheZahl: while (true) {System.out.println("03\n04");}
Astrobytes: no we don't want to see your Mars Lander code
kill-code: why be mean
GGgugge360: it's ok
GGgugge360: im still a nooby anyways
jacek: want to see my python?
jacek: :v
Astrobytes: ffs :D
GGgugge360: ?
kill-code: sure why not
GGgugge360: sure
eulerscheZahl: can i connect via teamviewer jacek?
Astrobytes: hahaha
jacek: :snake:
GGgugge360: oh you tricked me
kill-code: same
jacek: disappointed?
GGgugge360: :joy:
kill-code: lolol
kill-code: lol
kill-code: lmfas
GGgugge360: not at all
GGgugge360: :flag_se:
Tom.py: hey
kill-code: guys
GGgugge360: ?
kill-code: you what to see my pet bird
GGgugge360: mk :upside_down:
kill-code: :bird::eagle:
GGgugge360: :monkey_face::see_no_evil:
kill-code: lol
GGgugge360: maybe a friendly little doggo
kill-code: ok
GGgugge360: :wolf:
GGgugge360: roar
Astrobytes: Yes we have emojis. No, don't keep posting them all
GGgugge360: ok ok Astro
kill-code: thats not a friendly dog
GGgugge360: Meh..
kill-code: :bee:
kill-code: busss
GGgugge360: he can bite sometimes
kill-code: yea
GGgugge360: but Fluffy tho
GGgugge360: i got something
kill-code: ok show
GGgugge360: want to see some weather code?
kill-code: pm me
kill-code: so we wont get him mad
GGgugge360: go on ur phone and go to a weather site :upside_down:
GGgugge360: then
kill-code: ok
kill-code: done
GGgugge360: . . .
GGgugge360: ur there congrats
GGgugge360: code that shws the weather
kill-code: lol
magaiti: https://xkcd.com/378/
magaiti: this is the weather code
kill-code: oh
Astrobytes: man, I've seen that xkcd twice this month
Astrobytes: still funny
eulerscheZahl: i think i only shared this xkcd once this month
GGgugge360: hmm..
kill-code: "omg still laughing"
GGgugge360: idk
GGgugge360: download Desktop goose, the perfect programming partner
GGgugge360: bye
magaiti: oh yeah good old rubber duck programming
kill-code: wait where are you going
kill-code: ooof
kill-code: hi
kill-code: bye
AntiSquid: fascinating monologue
kill-code: oh
mo-qam: peepee
kill-code: nice
kill-code: bye
ParticleBeam: Hmm. Can't get the last entry 15 for the weekly puzzle when submitting.
ParticleBeam: Ah. Was a bug. Nvm.
jacek: glad to be helpful
DomiKo: that moment when you found bug in UTTT after like a week...
Astrobytes: don't be silly, there are no bugs in your code. It's the puzzle and/or the leaderboard! :P
Zenoscave: Astro you sound like a level 3
Zenoscave: did you find a bug in Thor too?
jacek: AutomatonNN how many bugs are in your code?
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see a solution for the contest though xD
jacek: xD
Zenoscave: That sounded like a true Ceg answer
Astrobytes: Thor is bugged Zenoscave! They're all bugged!
Zenoscave: lol
DomiKo: AutomatonNN XDDD
AutomatonNN: if next_checkpoint is the problem
Astrobytes: how's it going anyway? Heard you did well in the CTF(s)
Zenoscave: I did decent for only being present for the first half lol
Astrobytes: hey, quality not quantity right
Zenoscave: true
Zenoscave: Gah I am stuck with Coif. I'm so close to legend
Astrobytes: I tried to pick some low hanging fruit but didn't come up with much, too lazy to rewrite my contest code :P
Zenoscave: I might need to
Astrobytes: Nerchio wrote some stuff in his PM for the unofficial "contest", donno if it's any use for you
Zenoscave: link?
Astrobytes: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/debriefing-winterthrone2020-code-of-ice-and-fire/186956
Astrobytes: hm, still only one PM lol, at least it's a legend one
Zenoscave: Yeah I had most of that except the banking
MACKEYTH: I'm working on Chess board analyzer
MACKEYTH: Anyone know if King capturing a piece is considered a valid move?
Zenoscave: In chess in general?
MACKEYTH: I know it is in general, but I mean in this specific problem
PatrickMcGinnisII: MACKEYTH it's valid, but most are protected
MACKEYTH: Thanks!
PatrickMcGinnisII: MACKEYTH stomping on your own pieces was a case that i had problems with, dumb me
MACKEYTH: Oh, hadn't thought of that. Illegal?
MACKEYTH: I assume so
PatrickMcGinnisII: yes, of course
PatrickMcGinnisII: the bishop testcase is a good one to test that, I kept stomping on my own pawn...dumb me
MACKEYTH: No, I can see how you missed it. My initial concept was to map all the checked squares.
PatrickMcGinnisII: i did that at first too, then i realized king could move on same rank/file as a rook and still be in check
DeeDub: ansible
Allis: I just try all nine moves for the King and it's checkmate if all of them leave the King in check.
Allis: The one that initially tripped me up was to do with how I had implemented "vision" for Rooks and Bishops; they can't see "past" the King, but that doesn't mean the King can move into the square they can't see.
Allis: Because, well, after the King moves there, they can see it.
257832: Hi there !
Majeck: How can I find the puzzle of the week but not from notifications?
Majeck: I have the link I just mean in general
Allis: @Majeck That seems to be the only way, unfortunately. You can search the puzzle name if you happen to remember it, but otherwise you have to dig through old notifications.
Majeck: Oh ok, thanks Allis!
L810: please help me lol
XTXMidnightXTX: L810 what's ya problem?
L810: idk where to even start
PatrickMcGinnisII: 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
L810: so on dont panic episode 1... idk where to start
Majeck: If this is your first time on the site I'd recommend an even easier puzzle to get the hang of it
Majeck: Power of Thor for example
Majeck: Or "The Descent" if you want to practice loops
Majeck: In any case if you still want to have a go at Don't Panic Episode 1 I'd recommend first reading and completely understanding the statement, then looking at the pre-built code (for input handling) and also understanding it
Majeck: Play a few test cases with the default code to see what happens and what you need to do
Majeck: And then instead of just directly coding the solution, first, try solving it in paper
KiwiTae: L810 Dont panic is fun :D
Majeck: What I usually do for medium and up puzzles is draw the problem on paper, come up with a human solution pretty quickly (in don't panic it's where to stop the bots) and then see how I can adapt and translate that solution to code
YUHBOI: hello
KiwiTae: hi o/
Majeck: Hey KiwiTae do you plan on streaming for the fall contest?
KiwiTae: >,< there is a contest coming up? hehe
Majeck: Yep, in 22 days, 12 hours and 43 minutes
Majeck: So far all I've been able to gather is that the witches are the same as those from Zelda
KiwiTae: hoho i might join, but prob not much into it, im moving to europe early december, got to wrap up stuf in my office :scream:
Majeck: That's awesome, which country?
KiwiTae: on atlantic coast in France , britanny
KiwiTae: gonna be weird lol I am not sure my french is up to date
KiwiTae: Majeck you gonna stream ? hehe
Majeck: Nah, although I will ask some friend to come over and play
Majeck: *friends
Majeck: We've been pretty secure with quarantine so no risks there
Majeck: Last time we programmed for a contest together was when COIF came out and it was really fun
KiwiTae: oh right you guys have covid pandemic
Majeck: And you don't?
KiwiTae: no, no infections in taiwan :p
KiwiTae: we place everyone in forced quarantine when they land on the island
Majeck: Wow, so life has continued as normal for the last 8 months?
KiwiTae: lol yea bus party , nightclubs ~
Majeck: I'm so jealous of y'all
KiwiTae: just need to wear a mask in public transports but we already do that usually
Majeck: Island countries were playing the pandemic on easy mode hahaha
Majeck: *are I guess
KiwiTae: its cool here if your asked to self isolate th epolice come deliver you snacks ><<
Majeck: That's seriously awesome
Majeck: Well I gtg now but it was nice chatting with y'all
KiwiTae: see y at contest
YUHBOI: whose doing the fall compet
AnSeDra: hi:smiley:
