shadow_one: gn
Mortis_666: ga
UNs2725: hi
BeardedKitten_5f8d: I am used to seeing multi dimensional arrays written like this (Array[i][i]) I would be very appreciative if someone could explain how to access the full array. Thank you
BeardedKitten_5f8d: or how i can find the information
C26_1: @BeardedKitten_5f8d, if you want to print an element that;s an array in multi dimesional Array then print(Array[n])
C26_1: where n is an index
C26_1: For example:
[[3,4,5],[1,9,8]]
C26_1: If you want to access [3,4,5] then print(Array[0])
C26_1: It's like having a big boat contains small boat, and each of these small boats has some containers
C26_1: It's some analogy of course, to have a better understanding about 2d-Array
Sl0ppy: basically array[0] is also an array
Sl0ppy: so u need array[0][0] to get to a value
Sl0ppy: and if u want to access it all, u have to either use nested loops
BeardedKitten_5f8d: nvm haha i feel like a buffoon i was interpreting the c# input[] as an multi dimensional array, which had me really puzzled, but now i realize its just putting out data
Sl0ppy: actually idk if there is any other option besides nested loops
Sl0ppy: got it
BeardedKitten_5f8d: Thank you though
Nija12345: I have a daddy chocolat
5DN1L: We have Automaton2000
Automaton2000: csb is a good place to learn the basics
derjack: field3 already made bot for ataxx eh
field3: I'm happy with the new multiplayer game after a long absence.:grinning:
derjack: :upside_down:
xyh_from_China: @field3 What's that game?
field3: It is Ataxx in PENDING CONTRIBUTION.
field3: Proliferate or move your pieces. You can turn over the opponent piece of one square vertically, horizontally and diagonally from the destination or the breeding destination.
Stilgart: csb is no more Automaton2000 :(
Automaton2000: i have to do a few more times
Miki09: Can someone please help me with the minesweeper?
Stilgart: have faith and spam submit
Miki09: lol
Stilgart: (and try to remove bugs in your code first)
Miki09: Yeah
Stilgart: ~50 submits should do the trick
Miki09: I have reCaptcha now :)
Miki09: You have reached the maximum of submissions in a row. Please try again in a few minutes.
Miki09: lol
Stilgart: ask Automaton2000 to anwser the captachas for you
Automaton2000: do i have to do them
Zeishy: nigger
Zeishy: not me
Miki09: instaban
Uljahn: done
d3dpanda: Bruh
Sl0ppy: he was only 3 lvls old :cry:
5DN1L: You're going to shed a lot of tears if you become a mod :thinking:
5DN1L: I won't
therealbeef: minesweeper shouldn't require more than a few submits, or your solver is just not so good
Zbouig: hello i'm celestin
adolfzahid: hi :wave:
nicola: :eyes:
RemekP: ello
RemekP: ...
RemekP: ...
RemekP: ..
RemekP: .
struct: stop
RemekP: wdym
struct: stop spamming
RemekP: who u
rbarker: helo
Dark_Hack: he's moderator dude
AshWoolley: Siuuuuu
Dark_Hack: be careful
**Tien2k9 say hi!
struct: hi
h.a.r.u.l.d: e
h.a.r.u.l.d: a
5DN1L: Reminder: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
5DN1L: If you don't observe the code, you'll be kicked out the chatroom
Daniels112: siuuuuuuuuu
Daniels112: Remek
Daniels112: -p
5DN1L: Could you guys please behave nicely in this chatroom and not spam? Thanks.
rbarker: help
Daniels112: lol no
5DN1L: No what :expressionless:
Daniels112: hello 5DN1L
5DN1L: hello
Daniels112: how was your day?
5DN1L: my day's ok, unless you guys create chaos in this chatroom
Daniels112: us?
jacek: uk
Uljahn: lvl3
5DN1L: uk AND lvl3
Daniels112: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/20397cbf-2e94-43e9-9b8e-b6affc2bca81
jacek: ok, ataxx logic done i think
struct: logic?
5DN1L: oops
5DN1L: sorry Daniel_Leidenheimer
jacek: i parse board at first turn, and just adjust my board and generate actions on my own. it seems compatible
struct: ah move gen
jacek: though no passes
struct: you are going to ignore them?
jacek: for now
PBM: hello
struct: for minimax do you just call the same player again with passes?
jacek: i havent done minimax yet
jacek: at first ill assume if current player cant move the game is over and winner is pieces + empty
DESSSY: hi
DESSSY: do any of u want to hang out :)
struct: wrong site
DESSSY: k, u wanna hang out tho ;)
5DN1L: Keep spamming and you'll be kicked out
lollyman213: i wanna die
GoldenRose: you cant lol
5DN1L: no spamming guys
lollyman213: i have a noose
GoldenRose: you still have to initialize your codes
lollyman213: true
GoldenRose: okay sorry
GoldenRose: I am new here
GoldenRose: and kinda new in programming
5DN1L: new or not, no spamming
GoldenRose: I have a question
does anyone have a study buddy
GoldenRose: you in the nights
not to feel alone
5DN1L: kicked. kicked.
DESSSY: why you so mad no one even spamming, they just asking questions
Astrobytes: good afternoon
DESSSY: fuck fuck
Miki09: instaban
antiwonto: [automated] DESSSY be respectful and watch your language
https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
antiwonto: [automated] Miki09 please don't repeat yourself
Astrobytes: ^ lol it's misfiring again
Shmalf: free DESSY
struct: Impossible
Shmalf: oi struct
Shmalf: u wanna fight
Shmalf: i could take you
struct: I won
5DN1L: :clap:
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: struct: How is Ataxx coming along?
struct: its on contribution page
struct: im making an ai then ill improve graphics
Astrobytes: ah nice, will check it out later. You were fast :)
rbarker: how do i get past wood 2 its unclear and i ned
rbarker: need help
olindley: sem i need help
nicola: struct: :muscle:
5DN1L: If you're referring to Mad Pod Racing, read the hints in the puzzle statement
5DN1L: If you don't know the basics of any programming language, learn it elsewhere first
nicola: Or learn it in the classic puzzles here.
d3dpanda: nigger
LennyFMG: instaban
5DN1L: banned
C26_1: What
Astrobytes: One of those afternoons again it seems :rolling_eyes:
C26_1: What does d3dpanda says? I think it's sus to say it here anyway
5DN1L: Google yourself C26_1
C26_1: ok
C26_1: And There's event
C26_1: Called Minsweeper
C26_1: Minesweeper
ninjadip: yes
ninjadip: man i just had to learn how to play minesweeper before i could write a strategy up
ninjadip: lol
ninjadip: never bothered during the win 3.1 phase
5DN1L: wow, ok :joy:
C26_1: @ninjadip, the rule is pretty easy to remember: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9fe14c20-8468-4b31-bfb2-7dcd34d95e45
BZIClaw: Hello
Miki09: hi
BZIClaw: Well
ninjadip: yeah it's easy, meaning i already got it
ninjadip: but was new, all i was saying
jordan_codingame: moo
Wontonimo: :taco: Astrobytes
antiwonto: [automated] Wontonimo has awarded Astrobytes 10 tacos. Astrobytes now has 22 tacos. Wontonimo now has 33 tacos
Wontonimo: thanks for pointing out the repeat Astro
Astrobytes: woohoo
Wontonimo: i see it in the logs ;(
Astrobytes: no worries, it did it last night too
struct: time to add mod to that bot
Wontonimo: it's looking for repeat from the same person in the same day. need to change it to be the same person without someone else saying anything
Astrobytes: both occasions there were active spammers, then it told off the wrong people :D
Wontonimo: ha
struct: maybe add a timestamp to when the player last tsaid the same message
USSR_Chicken: hiii
struct: It also happened to me yesterdafy
5DN1L: yeah, timestamp is better
Wontonimo: hey struct, i tried using mod commands with the bot from my account. it doesn't work. the mod feature is through the web
Wontonimo: hi USSR_Chicken
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: did the chat logger get kicked again?
struct: ah
USSR_Chicken: so i made a discord bot but none of the commands are working
Astrobytes: what are you using for your bot btw Wontonimo? I was thinking of making a 'help' bot
struct: Automaton2020 should be up
struct: I can tab it
Astrobytes: was just gonna do it in python
Wontonimo: i sent you the code Astrobytes
Wontonimo: it's javascript
Astrobytes: gotcha thx
Wontonimo: it's the same connection code as Automaton2000
Automaton2000: what is the point where i am
Astrobytes: ^ kinda profound
Astrobytes: Much appreciated Wontonimo, will do a js and a python version since I need the js practice ;)
Astrobytes: right now though, back to boring stuff, see you all in a bit
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: 13 minesweeper solutions published in the last day, not bad
emadUO4: new here
BlaiseEbuth: Make a rtfm bot Astrobytes
BlaiseEbuth: Or a lmgt one
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: and now a puzzle with unicode inputs. weird string of puzzles
Wontonimo: :wave: emadUO4
C26_1: @Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker, About solutions of Minesweeper events, what would you rank the solutions overall?
Wontonimo: you don't need to put the "@" in the front C26_1
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I haven't looked at them. Somebody should run each of them 100 times and rank how well they do
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I guess that somebody is me or CG, I guess nobody else has access
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: not sure if they are planning to show them all to everybody, not sure how these events work
USSR_Chicken: i figured out how to make my discord bot work!
USSR_Chicken: out of all the code all it was missing was a comma
5DN1L: :thumbsup:
USSR_Chicken: now i can play minesweeper in discord lol
USSR_Chicken: and now imma go code one to respectfully nuke discords
USSR_Chicken: im gonna try to make it so it destroys one channel and it says "respectfully, im sorry"
USSR_Chicken: but it will also have a 10s countdown which all of this will take a while but it is my next project
C26_1: USSR_Chicken, maybe you can design a NUKE button to click whenever you want
C26_1: And 10s countdown video after that
USSR_Chicken: ah yes, make them more mad that i gave them plenty of time to kick it :joy:, after that "nuke" countdown and siren
USSR_Chicken: then walla, one channel that says "respectfully, sorry" pop up lol
ninjadip: cool now i got a good mine detector
USSR_Chicken: nice
ninjadip: next is to figure out where to go based off of detected mines vs unknowns?
ninjadip: haven't read that far into strategy yet
ninjadip: just glad the mine detection is working for simple patterns
USSR_Chicken: :thumbs_up:
USSR_Chicken: the emoji didnt work D:
USSR_Chicken: oh but that one does
USSR_Chicken: makes sense
USSR_Chicken: anywho ima go work on that nuke bot
ninjadip: maybe like if the tile says there are X nearby mines but i have detected the X nearby ones already and there is still one more unkinown, then that must NOT be a mine right?
therealbeef: indeed
ninjadip: Awesome, i'm on a good path
ninjadip: ty
Wontonimo: it is a constrain propagation problem. there are other constraint problems here also ... like Wave Function Collapse :wink:
therealbeef: haha shameless
Wontonimo: yes :grin:. But skipping the shameless part, you'll see in the write up of WFC a good method of keeping 2 data structures: patches and symbols
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/80dd2c02-e7b8-4861-a6f5-a1726bc03a11
5DN1L: interesting application
Wontonimo: as an upshot, WFC will also report relative probability in the case where it isn't certain :grin:
struct: damn py3
5DN1L: :confused:
struct: found the bug
struct: Now I can beat python
5DN1L: :thumbsup:
jacek: oO
Winner_for_ever: :poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c81c8c2c-7108-4677-a362-f346e06018fb
5DN1L: no spamming please
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
struct: Lol
jacek: yeah, no js pls
struct: https://i.imgur.com/M6RBNu6.gif
struct: I thought I had a bug
struct: but no
struct: bug on referee side
jacek: oh my
DethHarmonik: Still your bug...
struct: its not a bug
struct: I thought it was, my wording was confusing
DethHarmonik: Of course. It's a feature. ^^
struct: ofc it is
struct: three fold repetition
Wontonimo: hmm, i prefer a simpler rule : no move such that the board returns to a previous configuration
struct: hmm that is easier to code
Wontonimo: that's why i like it
Ftyghi: hi
Wontonimo: hello there new person Ftyghi
Ftyghi: did you forget me
Wontonimo: yes
Ftyghi: ok
Wontonimo: are you having trouble with ultimate tic tac toe in beating the wood boss ?
Wontonimo: if you work on this puzzle Ftyghi https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/tictactoe
Wontonimo: then you can use it to see if your next move is a win, and if not can you block the opponent forr a win. that will beat wood
Wontonimo: and struct, you don't need to save all previous boards either. only boards with the same number of occupied spaces (since spaces cannot become unoccupied)
darkhorse64: no because of jumps
DethHarmonik: Someone: "hi"
Wontonimo: "You just activated my trap card!"
Wontonimo: do jumps remove pieces or change them
darkhorse64: yes
Wontonimo: which?
struct: where it lands
struct: all neighbors
darkhorse64: ^
Wontonimo: it changes, replaces, not removes. there are no fewer pieces on the board
Wontonimo: lol DethHarmonik
darkhorse64: I see your point Wontonimo: you are right
darkhorse64: good clue for updating a transposition table
Wontonimo: i check their ranking DethHarmonik, and if they haven't reached top 2000 and have tried a multi, I give pointed direction to *go play that multi more*
Wontonimo: weeds out the people who can't code and just wanna spam chat
darkhorse64: give kids homework to keep them busy and avoid them getting nasty
DethHarmonik: You're like the Google's profiling algo personified :scream:
Wontonimo: not something i'll be able to do from discord ;(
Scarfield: they dont reduce the piece count, one piece is moved, some might change color
Scarfield: oh chat scroll, nvm
struct: guess Ill need to improve my mcts to work better on this game
darkhorse64: ept ? full random ?
struct: i have ept atm
ninjadip: finally getting somewhere in minesweeper
ninjadip: yay
darkhorse64: you solved one ?
DethHarmonik: somewhere can be 'on a mine'...
ninjadip: i'm making my own strategy up
darkhorse64: as late as possible can be a progress
ninjadip: without reading anything out there
ninjadip: huh
struct: is there any benefit of having 3 fold repetition over 1 fold repetition?
ninjadip: what is that
struct: 1 repeition = the position repeats 1 time
jacek: not really. in checkers durnig search if posiion repeats i assume its drawish
jacek: ok, playable bot is somewhat playable
ninjadip: grr... 135 moves with no bombs then i get a timeout
struct: jacek activated his NN
jacek: nah
jacek: good old score diff
struct: minimax?
jacek: eeyup
Scarfield: depth?
jacek: 5 plies near beginning
Scarfield: not bad, iterative deepening?
jacek: yes
jacek: TT and killer moves
Scarfield: :muscle:
struct: how many gamestates ?
struct: or how many evals w/e
Wontonimo: what algo did you use ninjadip ?
jacek: 500k per 50ms
Miki09: Someone please help I'm struggling with the minesweeper for like 5 hours, submitted about 200 times and its still not working
struct: must be the algo then
DethHarmonik: Keep submitting!
Miki09: lol
Wontonimo: break your code into small functions and add tests for each. here is an example https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64974829/search-not-working-for-river-crossing-problem-in-python/64993148#64993148
Miki09: Too fast
You have reached the maximum of submissions in a row. Please try again in a few minutes.
Miki09: Thanks wontonimo
Miki09: I'll check it
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Is there an easy trick to convert c++ code with ascii strings to unicode strings?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: frame the picture is killing me
QJS: LLLLLLLLLLL YOU ALL LOSE
QJS: :yum:
DethHarmonik: wstring Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker?
struct: my goal is complete I stopped jacek 100% win rate
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: yeah, I tried wstring/wcin/wcout but still having errors. but I'll figure it out if that sounds like the way to go
DethHarmonik: Was unicode really required here... :/
Manishgru: could somebody help me
i'm trying to chat with my friends in private clash but there is no chat box in my friends'
jacek: hm?
Uljahn: CG is AB testing the site without the chat for new users
Astrobytes: RIP
Uljahn: also your friend should be lvl 3 to gain access to the chat
jacek: really?
Astrobytes: Yes.
jacek: alphabeta testing eh
Uljahn: Thibaud said that on discord mod channel
BlaiseEbuth: Pruning the 5%
Uljahn: "the experiment (AB test) to remove the chat to newcomers has been running for 2 weeks now. There has been no impact on retention so far."
Uljahn: Automaton2000: sayonara
Automaton2000: and it still has a lot of work
Astrobytes: I like how this came out on the very day I was going to start on my help bot for chat
5DN1L: make a discord Automaton :thinking:
DethHarmonik: You didn't know Astrobytes?
Astrobytes: Not before this afternoon
DethHarmonik: Erf...
Astrobytes: I knew it was a long term plan
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: put your smurfs on ebay
Ose: hi guys
Ose: hm
Ose: ok then
Ose: I know what you're vthinking
Ose: thinking*
Ose: That you want to code!
Ose: nevermind
Ose: :rage:
Uljahn: im thinking that i want to ban you :thinking:
5DN1L: Ose please don't
Ose: ok
Ose: no problemp
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: It doesn’t take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle. — General Norman Schwarzkopf
Ose: I seriously get that
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: coool
eulerscheZahl: oh, they removed the hypnotoad animation for minesweeper :(
eulerscheZahl: first the animated gif, then the chat. sad times
Astrobytes: Copyright infringement
eulerscheZahl: oh right, good point
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: oof
ninjadip: my hypnotoad is still there
eulerscheZahl: with animation?
eulerscheZahl: https://imgur.com/a/AsZZBU7
yaziel: hello
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: hello there
jacek: no copyright on the minesweeper?
ninjadip: maybe expired?
struct: I think comunity contributions fall under another license
eulerscheZahl: it's community content. CG only has to take action when they know about it
eulerscheZahl: clearly they haven't seen yet
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: or maybe they dont care
jacek: maybe we should PM them about minesweeper
eulerscheZahl: no, let it live
eulerscheZahl: or i'll report paper soccer in return
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: i just beat minesweeper in two beats XD
struct: I better delete all my multis then
struct: ataxx owner is capcom I think
eulerscheZahl: i have some problematic contributions the longer i think about it
eulerscheZahl: onitama, blockout, bender 4
DethHarmonik: ataxx is the pola bea ight?
jacek: huh
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: who made minesweeper?
eulerscheZahl: "Minesweeper has its origins in the earliest mainframe games of the 1960s and 1970s"
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minesweeper_(video_game)#History
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: thank you
jacek: :drooling_face: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minesweeper_(video_game)#/media/File:Firefox_Hexagon_Minesweeper_-_fr.png
struct: so for ataxx to check repetitions I can store only the move right?
struct: or move + player
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend. — U.S. Army Training Notice
struct: I think im wrong
jacek: repetitions dont need to be consecutive
struct: yeah you are right
Scarfield: hmm only a jump can result in repetition, but same jump doesnt garantee same game state :thinking:
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: im making a pixel art for a game
struct: I guess I can clear the tt when I make a spawn
Scarfield: yea
Scarfield: there can never be fewer pieces
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason. — Ernest Hemingway
Scarfield: wrote a new MCTS, it so much nicer than my previous ones, but still buggy :'(
struct: ok lets stop with the random quotes
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: whyyyyyyyyyyy
Astrobytes: oh quit it will you
struct: Because its in the guidelines
DethHarmonik: "You're a wizard Frodo." - Yoda, in Back to the future.
struct: Scarfield I had some bugs I was calling rollout but the player had no moves
struct: maybe you will run into it
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: one last quote then i'll stop, okay?
struct: no
struct: Ill ban you
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: fineeeeeeeeeee, i'll stop
eulerscheZahl: doesn't matter, soon CG will ban all of us
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: for now aleast
Astrobytes: euler bringing the :salt:
eulerscheZahl: :P
Astrobytes: hehehe
DethHarmonik: No salt on my frog, only garlic, thanks.
Quidome: I was away for a year or so, since is this turned into a 'normal' chatroom??
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: and who is CG
Scarfield: i think both my expand and rollout should hande pass moves, but just "finished" the outline of my bot, lots of testing neglected :p
Quidome: since when*
Quidome: amazing
DethHarmonik: Who are you calling normal? :/
Astrobytes: Quidome: you mean the spam level?
Quidome: yes
Astrobytes: It's got quieter regular user-wise
Astrobytes: So spam is more visible
Astrobytes: And all the best moderators resigned (I'M KIDDING :D )
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: am i regular?
Quidome: well not a big problem for me, but it is visible
Quidome: but forget my regression, sorry :)
Astrobytes: yeah, less active regulars == less on-topic chat == spammy kids
BlaiseEbuth: Do like CG: Don't look.
Astrobytes: Still, hoping the chat will be here for the contest at least
eulerscheZahl: if it dies before, i'll get less distraction
Scarfield: yea, would be sad without it
Astrobytes: and won't leak your strategy
Quidome: are they planning to kill the chat?
eulerscheZahl: i'll find other ways
Astrobytes: :D
**BlaiseEbuth clear is throat.
BlaiseEbuth: Ahem.
BlaiseEbuth: At what hour the next league open?
eulerscheZahl: "the experiment (AB test) to remove the chat to newcomers has been running for 2 weeks now. There has been no impact on retention so far."
eulerscheZahl: there's a spy on the mods channel who discloses such information
Scarfield: retention of newcomers must be the same as retention for all users
BlaiseEbuth: Nope
Astrobytes: What, low? :P
Quidome: aha, well it would be bad to kill the chat, at least for me
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: we need to form a convoy around CG headquarters like they did with Castreau
Quidome: really love to see ideas floating around
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: let's nuke everything
Astrobytes: Yeah Quidome, it's nice for discussing ideas, brainstorming etc. And MSmits sermons of course
Scarfield: long time since he has made a wall :/
Scarfield: at least since i have seen on
Scarfield: e
Astrobytes: Not too long ago, he's real busy with school stuff, exams being postponed, moved around etc
Wontonimo: i love the distraction from work this provides. line none other
Quidome: And I agree, a contest without a chat is no good
Astrobytes: hehehe, CG: killing tech employee productivity worldwide
Quidome: well we will see, thnxs for your thoughts
Astrobytes: indeed :)
Scarfield: if they will check for retention of users after removing world chat, and the retention drops (it will for me im sure), we can hope they will bring it back
BlaiseEbuth: That's probably why they also plan to remove contests! :o
Astrobytes: I doubt that highly Scarfield
Scarfield: nooo...ooo
BlaiseEbuth: You should now that their stats always say what they want them to say...
antiwonto: how do you relate users back to CG accounts using discord? :rolling_eyes:
Quidome: Discord is also an option of course, but integrated is nice
Astrobytes: Yeah I'm hoping this isn't a 'farewell' contest but, I'm grateful there is one regardless :)
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: blackmail
eulerscheZahl: i haven't given my daily taco yet
Scarfield: +1 astra
eulerscheZahl: :taco: Quidome
antiwonto: [automated] eulerscheZahl has awarded Quidome 10 tacos. Quidome now has 11 tacos. eulerscheZahl now has 22 tacos
Scarfield: astro *
Quidome: It would be really sad if they kill the contests
antiwonto: and the tacos
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: Time will tell. Still other contests elsewhere
Quidome: :joy:
Miki09: :taco: Wontonimo
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: time will tell, nah, time will show
antiwonto: [automated] Miki09 has awarded Wontonimo 10 tacos. Wontonimo now has 43 tacos. Miki09 now has 1 tacos
BlaiseEbuth: Only time will tell :musical_score:
Astrobytes: Scarfield :taco:
antiwonto: [automated] Astrobytes has awarded Scarfield 10 tacos. Scarfield now has 21 tacos. Astrobytes now has 23 tacos
Scarfield: Astrobytes :taco:
Scarfield: heey
antiwonto: [automated] Scarfield has awarded Astrobytes 10 tacos. Astrobytes now has 33 tacos. Scarfield now has 22 tacos
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: I'm rolling in tacos now
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: kinda weird but okay
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: BlaiseEbuth :taco:
antiwonto: [automated] Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker has awarded BlaiseEbuth 10 tacos. BlaiseEbuth now has 10 tacos. Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker now has 3 tacos
Astrobytes: It's the Taco-bite Rebellion
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: hm
**BlaiseEbuth slaps Scarfield around with a :taco:
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: how did this start?
Scarfield: mmm
BlaiseEbuth: Oh thx Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker
Quidome: OK on minesweeper, I saw a suggestion from wontonimo on combing numbers to gain information when stuck
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: is that a Jacobite joke? I;m sure all the 12yos got that :P
Scarfield: how could this not be what CG wants on their site :thinking:
Astrobytes: Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: At least someone did!!
Quidome: I was thinking along the lines playing out what if questions will that work?
Scarfield: i still dont get it
jacek: ?
eulerscheZahl: Quidome did you check the forum? pardouin wrote a nice explanation for a specific case
Astrobytes: The '45 Rebellion? Jacobite Uprising of 1745? Bonnie Prince Charlie?
BlaiseEbuth: Hey Wontonimo there's 7 words in my message! Why can't I slap Scarfield with that taco! :rage:
Quidome: aha, ok, going to look there
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: <-> wonder how many people the U.S. killed for no reason
eulerscheZahl: of course there are still the bad cases like https://www.codingame.com/replay/607425660
Astrobytes: wonder how many users were banned for legitimate reasons...
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: someone finally published a c++ solution for frame the picture. lots of tricky stuff to handle unicode
eulerscheZahl: credits to fr chat for this replay
Scarfield: no idea, history is not my thing
Astrobytes: Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: don't you have to mess with locale methods and all that horrible stuff?
BlaiseEbuth: Probably not so more than Japan...
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: yeah, wcin .imbue(locale(""));
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: russia
Astrobytes: Yep. All that stuff. Nightmare.
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: gulag
BlaiseEbuth: Just survival camps...
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: the gulag was built in 1930
KadonWills: ok
DethHarmonik: Old survival camps
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: The Gulag was a system of Soviet labour camps and accompanying detention and transit camps and prisons. From the 1920s to the mid-1950s it housed political prisoners and criminals of the Soviet Union. At its height, the Gulag imprisoned millions of people.
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: The Gulag system ended definitively six years later on 25 January 1960, when the remains of the administration were dissolved by Khrushchev. ... The author likened the scattered camps to "a chain of islands", and as an eyewitness he described the Gulag as a system where people were worked to death.
eulerscheZahl: no mods around?
5DN1L: kicked
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: fine, i'll stop
BlaiseEbuth: I prefer goulash anyway
Astrobytes: Yes, you said that earlier
Astrobytes: @eve
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: but that was for the quotes
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: so if he's banned he can never chat again unless he has another existing account?
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: hm
BlaiseEbuth: :scream:
Astrobytes: It does, iirc
antiwonto: BlaiseEbuth , i reduced max words to 5 ... sorry
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: that's not true
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: it is more like a timer
BlaiseEbuth: Oh. That's getting trickier... :thinking:
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: i was banned (last time) for about few weeks at best
Astrobytes: That'll be the server reset magic
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: who was that guy who always banned me?
Astrobytes: Me
Ziatzoraf: hello world
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: you?
**BlaiseEbuth slaps Astrobytes with :taco:
Astrobytes: Yes. When I was still a mod.
antiwonto: [automated] BlaiseEbuth has awarded Astrobytes 10 tacos. Astrobytes now has 43 tacos. BlaiseEbuth now has 11 tacos
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: long time no see
Astrobytes: Holy Taco!
BlaiseEbuth: Can't even put a 'a'
BlaiseEbuth: ...
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: well im gonna go sleep, night or day
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: it was nice seeing you asrobytes
Astrobytes: See you in 10 minutes no doubt
BlaiseEbuth: Hell... Already 43, you should rename Tacobytes.
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: dont be nice astrobytes, its prob 5 mins
Scarfield: AstroTaco is not bad either
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: What should the #fr version give away?
antiwonto: baguette ?
Scarfield: free tacos
BlaiseEbuth: tortues!
5DN1L: why?
Astrobytes: Pâté Hénaff obviously
KadonWills: 2500$ lol:money_mouth:
5DN1L: Reminder: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
5DN1L: No spam, or get kicked away
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I could stop with the tacos and start complaining about unicode again...
Scarfield: my MCTS has 16 child nodes for 1st turn, one child has 168.816 visits out of 168.850, wonder if thats a bug :p
antiwonto: need a higher UTF_C value maybe
antiwonto: UCB_C
antiwonto: what's a utf_c ?
Astrobytes: unicode related?
jacek: wtf_c
BlaiseEbuth: Wild Turtles from France _ Corporation
eulerscheZahl: how did they take the news of chat removal?
jacek: who
eulerscheZahl: fr chat
BlaiseEbuth: Not as a news.
Wontonimo: jacek UCB_C = upper confidence bound constant for MCTS
jacek: oO
Astrobytes: lol
jacek: impossibru
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: but the new event system is based on chat
eulerscheZahl: s/chat/discord
ezpz
Astrobytes: I would assume they wish to remove the discussion to the forum for non-discorders
**eulerscheZahl will miss the webchat
Scarfield: RIP
jacek: when they are going to delete it
Scarfield: ^
BlaiseEbuth: Somebody took a look to the discord? ust to know if the 'event' created more move than here
Astrobytes: tbf, it would be a lot easier and quieter being a mod without it!
Wontonimo: mod of nothing = easy job
Wontonimo: and i just got my mod badge ;(
BlaiseEbuth: In mod we trust
Astrobytes: discord + forum
Wontonimo: i don't mod discord
Wontonimo: i hardly use that other than for private chat
Astrobytes: Ah, yeah, still you have The Power
BlaiseEbuth: You'll be fired so...
Wontonimo: they can try to claw back my pay
Astrobytes: lol
BlaiseEbuth: Hop you didn't already spent all the insults you got...
eulerscheZahl: i guess we'll find out how others coded their bots in the post mortes afterwards and not on chat, depending on how fast they will implement the change
Astrobytes: I honestly hope for post-contest removal, but guess we have to wait and see
eulerscheZahl: fun fact: post mortes is the correct plural form
Astrobytes: you and your Latin :D
Astrobytes: What did the Romans ever do for us eh
eulerscheZahl: lingua Latina meque
Astrobytes: You like talking to Latinas?
jacek: quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum videtur
Scarfield: seems it was a backpropagate issue, might actually work now
Astrobytes: :tada:
BlaiseEbuth: Latin is a dead language since a drunk roman summoned me by trying to sing...
jacek: passing moves backpropagate?
Astrobytes: usually sign errors in backprop!
Scarfield: i havent tested yet if passing moves work, but they should :fingerscrossed:
jacek: fingerfield
Astrobytes: Scarfinger.
Scarfield: xD could have sworn i had seen a crossed fingers emoji
BlaiseEbuth: crossedfield
Astrobytes: :fingers_crossed:
BlaiseEbuth: crossesfield
Scarfield: i knew it, couldnt see it when i scrolled through them.. that eye surgery
Astrobytes: gotta add the '_'
Astrobytes: heh heh
BlaiseEbuth: Scarface so
Scarfield: thats half of the origin of my nick, you will never guess the other half
BlaiseEbuth: cloverfield
Scarfield: yellow cat related
BlaiseEbuth: garfield
Astrobytes: Definitely not Garfield
Scarfield: ding ding ding
jacek: https://www.reddit.com/r/imsorryjon/
Scarfield: is that sub even sfw?
Astrobytes: It's Tuesday, at least he's happy
jacek: everything is sfw
Scarfield: true, havent had lasagna in a long time though :'(
Astrobytes: lo, that sub is... intriguing
Astrobytes: *lol, I'm not talking in ye olde Englishe
BlaiseEbuth: ngl
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Of harmes two the lesse is for to cheese.
Astrobytes: Chaucer! Jeez
Quidome: I found all the mines but the test case is still red
Quidome: https://www.codingame.com/replay/607495448
eulerscheZahl: how many mines are these?
eulerscheZahl: 99 or more?
eulerscheZahl: top right corner
Scarfield: i can see at least 2 mistakes top right bottom left
eulerscheZahl: you have a 3 with 4 cells around
eulerscheZahl: and maybe on the very left too, not sure
eulerscheZahl: there's a cell with no neighbor revealed
Quidome: hm, that's interesting
eulerscheZahl: oh, i maximized the board and missed Scarfield
eulerscheZahl: sorry
Quidome: I misinterpreted the 099 nu,ber
eulerscheZahl: 99 missing
Quidome: ok, not good, thnxs
eulerscheZahl: will go down to 0 when you place flags
Quidome: Yes, but that was purely visible but maybe still helpful :)
eulerscheZahl: but you have to reveal all non-mines. flags are just "comments"
Quidome: So you HAVE to place flags
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: but it help you to debug when you are done
Quidome: yes, I see, thnxs
Quidome: going to do that first
Scarfield: after looking again, it seems you only need to "click" (29,0). (0,12) has to be a bomb, so close
eulerscheZahl: the 5 at the top right has 6 neighbors
Scarfield: lol yea, but at least 0,12 cant be a bomb, so that leaves the top right
eulerscheZahl: did you count them?
Scarfield: sigh, there could be a 5 at 0,12
Scarfield: xD ill stop trying to help
Quidome: Testcase in the green for the first time with flags :D
Scarfield: im confusing myself even more now, can there be a bomb without any numbers around it? because if not, then 0,12 has to be a 5 ie not a bomb?
Scarfield: :muscle:
jacek: this is real minefield
Scarfield: we killed the chat before they even removed it :o
xxx_newbiehackerxz: what
xxx_newbiehackerxz: im new
xxx_newbiehackerxz: can yoyu teach me
struct: how much does the tt slow the code usualy?
jacek: hmm i get 500-600k moves with tt and 750k-850k without
jacek: but less depth without tt
jacek: i use unordered_map and typical hashing than zobrist
struct: ok I need to figure it out
struct: I get 5x worse performance
jacek: you want tt for minimax or 3-fold repetition?
struct: 3 fold repetition
jacek: oh, i checked only minimax. i dont have 3 fold repetition detection yet
jacek: but for checkers and chess i clear tt after non-reversible move
struct: Oh I fixed
struct: my hash was terrible :)
struct: maybe not
jacek: stop smokng
struct: Do you also store the game state on the map jacek?
jacek: just hash
struct: so you ignore collisions??
jacek: for my purposes there are (almost) no collisions
jacek: even so, if i store best reply there, i still check if the move is valid
struct: I see, Im checking for collisions that might be one of the problems
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: i wanna make a bot that says just quotes
5DN1L: aren't you the bot that says just quotes?
Chickins: ?
Scarfield: definately didnt implement pass moves correct xD well, thats for tomorrow, gn folks
struct: gn
Ben_Sundheim: gn
One-Six: hey guys, am I allowed to plug a WIP CoC contribution in world chat?
Wontonimo: no
Wontonimo: feel free to plug it to your friends though
One-Six: ok. Looks like they get more care as it approach end of 30 day though, guess I'll just be patient
Astrobytes: it's a big list
Wontonimo: yes, that's a good idea
struct: yeah usual it gets more views the closer it is to the deadline
struct: Unless its bot programming or optimization
Wontonimo: then it gets all kinds of early love
struct: its interesting that I dont need to tell my bot to not fill the board if the fill would lose
struct: It will just keep repeating moves unaware that it will end in a draw by repetition
C26_1: Hello everyone
struct: hi
C26_1: So I have an idea
C26_1: I'm gonna test if there's something that SQL cannot do as Excel
One-Six: it that because bot and optimization are challanging and rare?
C26_1: One-Six, game coding is hard,
struct: One-Six they require a bit more effort in general
Astrobytes: One-Six: pretty much, plus the above. It's more effort required from author and player
struct: But if you do contributions similar to mine they dont require much effor
struct: effort*
One-Six: XD
struct: You only need a few hours
Astrobytes: 1. Copy nearest matching board game
2. Rewrite the rules.
3. ???
4. Profit
One-Six: XDD
struct: thats what I did
Astrobytes: Hey it works, and there's a nice variety too
struct: I think 5 times now?
One-Six: Guess I know what I should try to do in another two contributions XD
struct: Yavalath, Yinsh, Othello, Amazons and now Ataxx
Astrobytes: Something like that yeah struct :D
C26_1: Copy-paste is the best skill that programmer should have XDD
One-Six: I have a simple idea that can probably turn into two CoC and one Puzzle, so I will do that first
C26_1: I mean why would waste hours of hours just to make code that's already in source-code mode and online
struct: I still dont know what to expect from backgammon
One-Six: (The last one I need to do more research though
struct: Isnt it too luck based? I dont know much about the game
struct: I know its played on new york parks
struct: But thats about it
One-Six: I think anything that heavily utilize dices should be more luck based?
Astrobytes: Yeah, there is dice rolling involved, but there might be some virtue to having it
struct: Im sure there is some strategy to it
One-Six: I always learn and forget about how backgammon works
One-Six: xd
Astrobytes: Yes, there is. And games involving chance are a special case for AI
One-Six: ah...
Astrobytes: Also many variants of it too
Noneoneoneone: heyo
Noneoneoneone: hows everyone doing/
elderlybeginner: This event thing (minesweeper) - I don't see it to be different then other puzzles. Am I wrong?
Astrobytes: It's the same yeah
elderlybeginner: is there anything specific in regards to events?
elderlybeginner: beside some new marketing
Astrobytes: There will be bot-programming ones, and a clash one soon
Astrobytes: Other than that it's just as you said
Astrobytes: I think there is more solution-sharing than normal
One-Six: wooooh
struct: Is there any way to create a template for shifts?
struct: Im not very familiar with templates
dunky_: joe
dunky_: new to the community
dunky_: finishing up ASCII art
Noneoneoneone: ascii art is a thinker
Wontonimo: looked at minesweeper. coded a random bot. thought about making an algo... got tired
Wontonimo: congrats dunky_
Wontonimo: what are you woking on now?
struct: Wontonimo you can always try ataxx, we need someone to dethrone jacek
Wontonimo: haha ... it won't be me
Wontonimo: jacek will just up his game when he sees someone coming
Wontonimo: my CG game isn't good enough to beat you or jacek
struct: im only "good" at bot programming
struct: and usually I dont do anything smart beside the sim
struct: Make sim fast, bruteforce, profit
Wontonimo: how's the NN stuff going?
struct: I paused it for a bit during backpropagation
struct: its a bit confusing
dmuraco: what's for dinner?
dooge: eheheh
dooge: aahahahahhahah
dooge: l
dooge: ll
koiee: hi
koiee: how can we get harder questions in private clash
ASM_MOV_INT: ...there is no way to determine or select difficulty in the clashes, as far as I've ever known
ASM_MOV_INT: the rating system helps them determine that behind the scenes for the selection process
shadow_one: gn
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