derjack: :upside_down:
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: im noob
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: :frowning2:
MrZee: Question, if I have to close the page in the middle of a puzzle, does my code I wrote so far autosave?
5DN1L: You have to play your code once in order for it to be saved
MrZee: Thank you!
5DN1L: :)
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: How can I improve my coding skills :(
21stCenturyPeon: same as any other skill. practice, practice, practice, learn new bits, repeat until awesome
dreadylein: get a good book /tutorial series for your language of choice, find a project you are passionated for, then code
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: Thank you :D
dreadylein: your welcome
derjack: improve? so you already have some coding basics?
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: maybe
sparkym: yoooo
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: hello
derjack: if you have some basics, try power of thor, the descent, temperatures puzzles
CryanRyan: Benis
Vicas7: HEYYYYY yoO
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: Hello
CryanRyan: How to code?
Vicas7: with your keyboard
Vicas7: xD
CryanRyan: I do not have a keyboard
CryanRyan: using speech to text
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: ._.
Vicas7: .-.
Katespizer: its even better that way
Uljahn: no spam here, guys
CryanRyan: you'Re spaming
**Rodrigo_the_coder slaps no one around a bit with a large fishbot
**Rodrigo_the_coder slaps himself out of confusion around a bit with a large fishbot
ninjadip: what a beautiful coding morning
Dragon15609: is anyone able to help, I've converted a text file into a string[] using readall lines and now i'm not sure how to add to it
Dragon15609: i've looked it up but i haven't been able to find a concrete solution
ninjadip: search google how to write to file in that language
ninjadip: how to write text
ninjadip: usually you have to open the file as such, to have read/write since you are writing too. but idk what language you're talking about
Dragon15609: C#, that's what ive done. ive taken the file and then called upon it and used ReadAllLines to make it a string array so that i can then resave it after adding to it
Dragon15609: i just don't know how to add to it
ninjadip: so appending the file
ninjadip: maybe google how to append text file c#
Dragon15609: thanks, im a student and i haven't been taught what appending is, thanks you've just opened up a whole new world of google searches for me
ninjadip: i thought it might
ninjadip: having the right keyword helps
Dragon15609: ha
ninjadip: i haven't messed with c# before. i heard it's like java?
21stCenturyPeon: Very. If you understand one, you'll be able to pick up the other.
derjack: except the methods start with capital letters
struct: what happened to bt leaderboard?
struct: everyone has the same points
struct: or close to the same
Wontonimo: i don't see a problem now
nesnes112: Cederkaeppen please ur code in clash
Euler_Phi_Function: hi wontonimo
Euler_Phi_Function: euler phi function
Wontonimo: hey, how's your day going Euler_Phi_Function ?
Epsilon_Delta_Notation: great
Wontonimo: excellent smithers
derjack: struct where? there are 48 48 44 42 38...
derjack: nothing can break breakthrough leaderboard
FrancoRoura: Hey does things like opening MDN docs in a new tab count as cheating for certifications?
struct: i would say no
Frankich: I personnaly don't expect any developer to work without docs, so I would say no as well
derjack: and 2 ppl subimiting to bt now oO
struct: They probably are battling each other
darkhorse64: Truly excellent contribution :blush:
derjack: but no leagues :unamused:
struct: we need a boss there
derjack: shall I provide one
darkhorse64: Recurs e ?
struct: What rank should boss be?
struct: top 30?
darkhorse64: I should revise the contrib to remove this silly pawn animation
derjack: that would be even worse than othello
struct: you only need to change 1 line
derjack: silly pawn animation?
struct: when its captured I think
darkhorse64: yep
derjack: so checkersy
struct: There is a parameter you can put on move()
struct: or w/e its called on sdk
darkhorse64: I stole the code from checkers
struct: https://codingame.github.io/codingame-game-engine/com/codingame/gameengine/module/entities/Curve.html
struct: Its one of these
struct: IMMEDIATE will move pawn instantly at 0.0
struct: with no animation
struct: NONE will move at 1.0
struct: also with no animation
darkhorse64: There is this new "featured event" with leagues. Let's wait for it to provide new bosses.
darkhorse64: For the animation, I would only make the pawn dissapear. No need to throw it across the board
struct: yeah but with these ones it will achieve that
struct: and you dont ahve to change much
struct: only 1 line I think
darkhorse64: True but I am also not happy with the rest of the code base
struct: maybe you can also add highlighted cells
struct: like on chess 960
derjack: why any change anyway
struct: we need 3d breakthrough
darkhorse64: Anyway, I am the only one complaining. Yep, highlighted squares would be neat, reusing my last contrib. 3D ? Nah. It's overengineering
darkhorse64: My CTTT bot works ! Featuring 128 bit bitboards !
Zenoscave: what's cttt? is it like uttt?
struct: nice
Zenoscave: pew pew btw
struct: counting tic tac toe
derjack: what for? its solved
darkhorse64: Trying to win seems an OK strategy
darkhorse64: I wrote the bot mostly to experiment with gcc __int128
IrakliButu: is this binary???
IrakliButu: o nvm
struct: on breakthrough yeah
Wontonimo: woot, my latest contrib got accepted "Markov text generation"
Wontonimo: that's it for me for contributions for a while
Wontonimo: have you decided on a wood2 bot yet for Breakthrough ?
jacek: would Automaton2000 solve that puzzle?
Automaton2000: and you also have a lot of things that are not in the test folder
darkhorse64: Automaton2000, do you think Wonto test coverage is not good ?
Automaton2000: can i be a mod
Wontonimo: I see that BJD ranked 38th with javascript. It would be nice if the Wood2 bot was below some of the non C languages
darkhorse64: rise of the machines
Wontonimo: lol
struct: Non NN bots should not be allowed on the next league
jacek: i would use somthing from about the half
Wontonimo: ? wdym struct
struct: only top 5, which are all NNs should be on the next league
struct: mabe 6th is NN too? idk
Wontonimo: that seems excessive
jacek: so exclusive
darkhorse64: elite league
Wontonimo: so, you are volunteering your bot as the boss struct?
struct: hmm my bot is not strong enough
Wontonimo: it will allow the top 6 into wood1 and keep almost everyone else out
jacek: and no fun in the wood1 league, almost no battles
Wontonimo: I vote for top 30
struct: Ill wait until I find a working eval
struct: to decide
Wontonimo: there are 232 bots in BT, so a top 30/50 and then divide the rest in half to make 3 leagues would be nice
Wontonimo: i really like the first boss being a just-slightly-better-than-random
Wontonimo: gives people a sense of progression right away
Wontonimo: in this case, that would be wood3
struct: yeah its hard to choose on community games
Wontonimo: just clearing out the barely working bots from the rest would be a win
Lambert_W_Function: hi mod
Wontonimo: how about all the other people? :rolling_eyes:
Lambert_W_Function: ur the best i love u <3
jacek: aww https://skins.webamp.org/
Wontonimo: wow, that's a lot of skin
jacek: some of them are repeating
JsDawg: dei boomer uncle engaiyu velaiya katriya??????
jacek: !
Wontonimo: JsDawg, English in this channel. Also, what lang is that?
jacek: python
jacek: wala is quite persistent with breakthrough ~
Wontonimo: python eh?
Wontonimo: oh, you are right jacek
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9ed6b842-7dee-4b50-a92b-853811462bcc
Wontonimo: learn something every day
wala: I'm trying to tune my minimax evaluation
Wontonimo: hey wala :wave: !!
jacek: :+1:
jacek: TIL on many crypto forums theres suicide hotline
wala: Hi
Kitis: /me
Kitis: dies
Kitis: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
jacek: fail
struct: there are just 2 types of eval
struct: NN eval
struct: and random eval
struct: for breakthrough
Kitis: NOOOOO not the 2 types of eval
Kitis: What is eval?
Wontonimo: in python? it runs code
Kitis: oooooo I love python
struct: Kitis evaluating the current state of the game
Wontonimo: my earlier python code example was a joke by the way.
Kitis: But I can't figure out how to inport pyautogui
Kitis: :(
Wontonimo: lol. it's a joke. it won't run
Kitis: Ik
Kitis: sadness
Kitis: why do us coders always use "i" in loops?
Wontonimo: because we are egocentric ?
Kitis: thets a funny word
struct: answer is math
jacek: :scream:
Kitis: i see.
Wontonimo: always math
Kitis: well in thet case
Kitis: ......
struct: I think my negamax is wrong on lines of action
Kitis: 1^6x2-2(1+9)2=0.01
struct: Im going to try it on bt
Kitis: or known as 69
Smelty: ;-;
jacek: lines of action is quite different to bt eh?
Kitis: one of the mods once banned me and my brother for being "Anoying"
struct: I can still copy the negamax jacek
Kitis: It was a 1 YEAR ban
Kitis: but i have rose from the dead
Kitis: I still remember the mod
Kitis: His name was Uljahn
MSmits: if they said you were annoying with one 'n', I say they should lose their mod status for crimes against spelling
Kitis: Im just 12
Kitis: ;(
MSmits: yeah it;s fine when you do it
MSmits: dont worry
Wontonimo: hey, Kitis, take a break. please keep your conversation related to the topic at had : breakthrough
Kitis: Thenks for your fougivness
Oniibaru: how am i supposed to these if i dont know any of the deffinitions -.-
Kitis: whats that
jacek: Wontonimo breakthrough in what?
struct: I need to read some bt papers
Kitis: Hay wontonimo can I roast u?
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/breakthrough or other multis or codingame stuff
Wontonimo: just not idle jibberish you were going on about Kitis
jacek: its hard to find bt papers. all i could find was something about breakthrough in cancer :( i dont care about that
Kitis: you don't care about wontonimo. HE HAS CANCER look at his pfp
MSmits: ehh careful there Kitis or you'll be gone again
MSmits: jacek toes the line and you jump right over it
Wontonimo: everyone, as you were. the Kitis has been banished for 5 min. :D
jacek: mhm
struct: jacek
struct: https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/1z40kw957
struct: at least 1 paper
struct: not much
jacek: or https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321991759_Machine_Learning_in_the_Game_of_Breakthrough
struct: need to request it
jacek: or pay
struct: I had a decent paper for it, cant find it
jacek: ask smits how to do that
MSmits: :rage:
struct: "The program is launched as “wanderer_bot” on
the Little Golem (LG) website"
struct: is that where your bot is jacek?
jacek: eeyup
Wontonimo: i sent you a link to the publication struct
jacek: https://littlegolem.net/jsp/info/player.jsp?plid=140575
Wontonimo: looks like it is the full source
struct: thanks
Wontonimo: np
Kitis: I'm back yay I will be more behaved now.
Be-Ugeen: any tips why i cant do something like that?
result.append([1] * 500000001)
jacek: out of memory :?
Be-Ugeen: i dont know it just stops
Wontonimo: what are you trying to do Be-Ugeen ?
Be-Ugeen: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/1000000000d-world
Wontonimo: ah. yeah, that puzzle
struct: so it seems i need to evaluate patterns?
Wontonimo: you can't actually allocate all that memory.
Wontonimo: you need to be "clever" about it
jacek: n-tuples?
struct: maybe I should learn it
Kitis: any tips on python guys?
Kitis: like what do YOU run it on>
Kitis: ?
jacek: computer
Wontonimo: think about it Be-Ugeen. If you have 500 1s followed by 500 2s, and you multiply that by 1000 3s, it becomes 500 1*3 and 500 2*3
Kitis: can I be a mod
Kitis: I will be nice
Wontonimo: sure
Kitis: YAY
Kitis: u da best
Wontonimo: but not here
Kitis: awww
Kitis: y not
Kitis: i will be mice tho
Kitis: nice*
Oniibaru: why does the descent tell me to use stdin, stdout, and stderr as the first hint when these aren't defined things?
Scarfield: y not mice
Kitis: yes mine too
Kitis: mice*
Kitis: ahhhhh
jacek: Oniibaru what language
Kitis: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9c2f1bb6-0b77-4bed-99d6-f2f70bbe8802
Oniibaru: javascript
jacek: most of them would be 'defined' by default in most language
Kitis: in python is ther supposed to be a semicolen?
jacek: in js, console.error prints to stderr
jacek: generally the puzzles on codingame are structured that you get input in stding and you need to print answer in stdout, or console.log them
Scarfield: no semicolon in python, but colons in loops, ifs etc.
Scarfield: for i in range(10):
blabla
Kitis: whats blabla
Kitis: is it a fish?
Scarfield: what ever you want it to be, 10 times
Kitis: WOW
Kitis: So i can have 10 fishes
aertify: Why I cant see my debug messages?
Kitis: is it safe to eat fishy food
Kitis: because there are no debug messages
Scarfield: what language, and how are you printing them aertify?
aertify: C#, I've followed this message "To debug: Console.Error.WriteLine("Message");
Kitis: sould i stop eating my fishy food? I fell sick
Kitis: I print my stuff with my pronter
Scarfield: should be correct, are you not writing anything else than debug? and maybe your code is timing out because of it
Kitis: but I have no red ink but I can't print my black and white code
Wontonimo: take another break Kitis and consider your life choices
Sha_winter: hi
aertify: Yeah, I've put some if statements, that might be the reason, sec I'll try to use debug without any other code I've added.
Sha_winter: I was once deleted
Sha_winter: And them
Sha_winter: I was here
Sha_winter: It smells like tofu
5DN1L: It smells like spam
Sha_winter: No U
Sha_winter: How fast can I get icked?
Sha_winter: Kicked*
5DN1L: If you continue like this, pretty fast
Sha_winter: Perfect
Sha_winter: dg
Sha_winter: df
5DN1L: Bye
OleMurpho: This is super dope
Kitis: sha winter is my twin
Kitis: aka shadow winter aka sha_win
Kitis: what U BANNED him
Kitis: I willl send you to jesus
Wontonimo: you are next if you don't behave
Kitis: oh srry
Kitis: sir wontonimo your wish is my command
jacek: apparently more people are hyped for bt now
Wontonimo: specifically asking to be banned and then acting poorly will get you banned
Kitis: oh
Kitis: cool!
OleMurpho: He'll put you in Wontonimo Bay
Kitis: I wil behave *in robotic voice
Wontonimo: +1 OleMurpho
Kitis: will i be squished to smitherines
struct: jacek can you play vs this bot?
struct: https://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/info/player.jsp?plid=21160
Wontonimo: last warning Kitis
jacek: hmm i could invite him
struct: oh it has lots of loses I think
jacek: if he accepts
struct: maybe it was strong before
jacek: bur last game is 2018:?
struct: yeah
struct: It was the bot mentioned on the paper
struct: I sent
struct: its probably down
OleMurpho: What's littlegolem all about? Are there different game modes?
jacek: its correspondence games only
jacek: generaly 1 day for move
struct: 1 move per day?
jacek: day is the limit. coult be less
struct: ah
jacek: i use around 10 seconds
jacek: mostly because my vps has only 1GB ram
struct: do you do the move manually?
jacek: no, its bot. parses html automatically
struct: maybe if my bot thinks for 1 hour it can match your
KalamariKing: havent been here in a while :cry:
jacek: who are you
KalamariKing: whats the difference between:
`el in arr`
`any([ el==e for e in arr ])`
KalamariKing: one calls __contains__ and one calls __eq__?
jacek: :no_mouth:
5DN1L: It looks like yes? :thinking:
Wontonimo: hey KalamariKing, it's been a while
KalamariKing: hey Wontonimo long time no see
KalamariKing: finals :sob:
jacek: finals?
5DN1L: trials
5DN1L: Automaton2000, take some quizzes and tests and exams and finals
Automaton2000: can i paste my code
5DN1L: no
Blokops: Automaton2000 what are your thoughts on the activition/Microsoft acquisition
Automaton2000: there is also a good idea
Blokops: dang Automaton2000 is pro monopolies
Automaton2000: or i guess i need to know what you mean
Blokops: i mean that Microsoft bought blizzard/activison Automaton2000
Automaton2000: yes i know, but it is worth it
Blokops: Automaton200*0 being kind of sentient
Kitis: how do I open .py files they just instantly close
Fasader: with an editor
Fasader: right click->edit
Fasader: notepad->open..
Fasader: or get some IDE like pycharm, it's got a free community edition
Fasader: double clicking .py files runs the code unless set up otherwise
BlaiseEbuth: .py -> righ click -> delete, then trash -> right click -> empty trash. You'll tanks me, one day...
Fasader: :joy:
Kitis: omg thx
Kitis: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6671c43e-fda5-4125-ba15-959995cc81b7
Kitis: read this
Kitis: and run it
Kitis: also I use pycharm
Blokops: any one wanna do a contribution review exchange
lemin08: me
lemin08: oops
lemin08: forget about that
Blokops: bout what
Blokops: oh got it
lemin08: contribution review
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zophia2222: hey
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lain111: hi how are you
lain111: fine thank you
Zzzette: bien y tu
PedroGlock: im die thank you forever
Zzzette: ok but did i ask
PedroGlock: you did
PedroGlock: do i know you ?
PedroGlock: cheap whore
SkyHive9005: ayo chill
Zzzette: ok insolent don't sobrepases de smart with Migo si
PedroGlock: ok lets kiss
Dawnt: :neutral_face:
PedroGlock: :nerd:
SkyHive9005: lmfao
Zzzette: ok but don't here bc i'm nervous
Dorak: Kiss between friends, you are all invited.
Dorak: :kissing_heart:
PedroGlock: 0 maricoteo
Zzzette: abraham moja el pipe
Zzzette: se quedara ahora en el chat global
PedroGlock: abraham moja el pipe
Zzzette: ustedes sabian que
Zzzette: abraham tiene un piercing en el pipe
lain111: si sabia
Zzzette: deberian ponerlo de foto de portada todos
Wontonimo: english here or go to the french #fr channel
PedroGlock: thanks now me and my french friends will go to french channel
PedroGlock: bonjour
Dorak: Omelette du fromage.
Dorak: :raised_hands:
Dawnt: Who is the idiot speaking French?
Wontonimo: okay, next non-english message gets kicked
PedroGlock: sure
Dawnt: Silence the Peruvian
PedroGlock: whos the peruvian
Wontonimo: kicked
Wontonimo: you have been given a 5 minute time out
Wontonimo: this is a public chat. Be respectful. Talk about coding or codingame. Generally stay on topic.
Wontonimo: PedroGlock has been banned for toxic and abusive private chat
Dawnt: Jiji mutearon al peruano :laughing:
Josdel: hey wontonimo
Josdel: pedroglock is live in 'es' chat
Josdel: :grimacing:
ayaan-dev: hi
ayaan-dev: wassup
ayaan-dev: E
ayaan-dev: E
ayaan-dev: E
Dorak: E
Wontonimo: next spam gets banned
ayaan-dev: oh shi-
LeJordy: mod moment
ayaan-dev: lol
Wontonimo: consider this a warning :
Wontonimo:
this is a public chat. Be respectful. Talk about coding or codingame. Generally stay on topic.
Wontonimo: talk about coding
LeJordy: Well im outta here
ayaan-dev: yeah same lol
ayaan-dev: bye peeps
LeJordy: don't feel like getting banned
ayaan-dev: have a good day
LeJordy: same to you
Wontonimo: good decision
Zzzette: y estos randoms
ayaan-dev: hola
ayaan-dev: yo no hablo espanol
Dawnt: Que tonto :joy:
ayaan-dev: yo soy muy mal a espanol
Wontonimo: English only on this channel
layZzEEE: no
layZzEEE: no one speak english
Wontonimo: I've banned 4 people in the last 30 min... sigh
Wontonimo: unfortunately bans are permanent
Wontonimo: ya tell people to not do something or you'll ban them, then they do the thing
Wontonimo: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
jayluckii: sad times wonton
Wontonimo: yeah
jayluckii: remember me?
Wontonimo: i miss the usual crowd that likes to talk about mcts
Wontonimo: yeah, i sure do jay
jayluckii: welp remember how i got suspendd today was my first day back i missed a crap ton
Wontonimo: yeah
jayluckii: anyways how are you?
Wontonimo: great actually. these spammers cant keep me down!
Blokops: bout how many clash code are there?
Wontonimo: 5,000 maybe? I don't know actually
Blokops: funny that i havnet seena repeat on but i ended up seeing one that was previoulsy in contributions
Blokops: 20s' since i knew the answer
Blokops: made 3 guys quit
Wontonimo: haha
Wontonimo: hey Blokops, good call on the difficulty of Markov Text being easy. 25 people have already attempted it with a 70% success rate
Blokops: maybe you can do a part 2 with more complexity
Wontonimo: yeah, i've been thinking of a NN variant
Wontonimo: but can't think of a clean way of doing it for codingame in a puzzle
Blokops: wouldn't a NN need like a lot of data to work
Blokops: and then the checking of result would be hard
Wontonimo: exactly
Blokops: oh maybe you could do a "image" object using euclidian distance
Blokops: image object detection*
Blokops: give n images and 1 image to compare
Wontonimo: well then it wouldn't be text anymore :D
Blokops: it can be black and white with range 0 to 255
Blokops: sort of like the mnset
Blokops: MNIST*
Wontonimo: yeah, i know mnist
Wontonimo: i was thinking more like word2vec or glove
Wontonimo: with NLP instead of image processing
Blokops: actually calling shutgun on the idea of image reconigtion
Blokops: it would make for a cool clash
Wontonimo: you may find this interesting https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/37409/handwritten-digit-recognition-using-scikit-learn
Blokops: been there done that. It was THE filter class of my bachelor
Blokops: only 50% manage to pass
Wontonimo: yikes
Blokops: that and computer achiteecutre
Wontonimo: like making furniture out of ipads ?
Wontonimo: yeah, that would be hard
Wontonimo: okay, should have said bridges instead of furniture ... anyway ... always thought architecture was a funny term for good design in s/w
Wontonimo: so what were you thinking for the clash of code ?
Blokops: a simple version of mnist
Blokops: only 0 and 1
Blokops: n image
m by m
Blokops: plus one to compare
Blokops: return the index of the one that looks the most
Blokops: also the compare one is flip numbers
Wontonimo: just direct, or do you have to include shifts, minor rotates, noise?
Blokops: direct
Wontonimo: so, if a 1 is just a few pixels to the left it would totally not match and that's okay right?
Blokops: it shoudl be the one that matches the most
Blokops: yea you are right it should have some noise/shift
Wontonimo: if you have an image, say 30x30 pixels, then a poor-mans convolution is to sample 4 29x29 pixels from the original and use the result that has the strongest match
Wontonimo: or 9 28x28
Wontonimo: so you could provide some 28x28 samples, and one 30x30
Blokops: im am not doing 28x28 nope nope nope
Wontonimo: that would address shifts
Blokops: doing a contribution is a PAIN
Wontonimo: haha
Wontonimo: it is
Wontonimo: i'm taking a break for a while from contribs
Blokops: still trying to grind that achivemnet
Blokops: i dont know whats the last quest but i want those 500XP points
Wontonimo: heh
Blokops: i still dread doing the "very hard" puzzles one
Blokops: took me 2 weeks to do the batman one
Blokops: still need to do 1 more
Wontonimo: create your first contribution and get 5 upvotes
Wontonimo: that is for gold level
Blokops: but the next one?
Wontonimo: for legend level you need to get it approved
Wontonimo: that's it
Wontonimo: nothing after that
Blokops: i might get legend on bot making before i can get that one
Blokops: is like the clash of code last one
Wontonimo: which bot battle are you working on to get legend?
Blokops: took me AGES
MalaysiaGamer_Fish: im noob
