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Automaton2000: but do you know about it

Default avatar.png Andrew.Lee: So help me out here. I completed a Clash in 3:19, leaps ahead of the next person at 9:43. Yet I ranked 4th. How does the ranking work out?

myNickName01: it's different per clash

Jerrasterix: What type of clash

myNickName01: speed and code size...

myNickName01: are two different rankings

myNickName01: also percent of tests

Default avatar.png Andrew.Lee: ah. code "size"... despite coding fastest, looks like I must shift+tab to remove all white spaces and comments

myNickName01: in some clashes yes

Default avatar.png Andrew.Lee: that's pure crock.

myNickName01: rofl, nice job on the speed though

myNickName01: :)

Default avatar.png Andrew.Lee: C# vs Python. That's an unfair advantage

Jerrasterix: That's useless in python or pascal other indented lang

myNickName01: only thing I really have never liked about the clashes, is that everyone should be required to share all code, and if no one has 100% a solution should be shown

Thorcode: What happend with Wontonimo mod badge?

Wontonimo: Wave Function Collapse (rough draft) has been posted. Yeah me. It's been in the works for about 2 months

myNickName01: otherwise i love this website, and clashes are my favorite thing on here

Jerrasterix: wdym ??

Thorcode: try puzzle myNickName01

Wontonimo: my badge may come back in the next reboot

Thorcode: ah

Thorcode: ko

Jerrasterix: ahhh... server reboot

Thorcode: nah

Jerrasterix: lucky Ebuth didn't get the mod back

Thorcode: I tried f5 it does not work

Jerrasterix: server reboot, not a client reload

Jerrasterix: yesterday, CG chat server crashed it seems

Thorcode: why lucky about eduth

Thorcode: is he still a mod?

Jerrasterix: well, he used to get it when server rebooted.. bcoz he was a mod

Thorcode: what why he say that he was being banned

Jerrasterix: idk

Default avatar.png camnwalter: is there a way to make it so i dont join a new chat room every game

Schwase: no

Jerrasterix: unfortunately np

Schwase: just x out of them

Jerrasterix: *ni

Schwase: so close jerrasterix]

Schwase: lol

Schwase: if i were a statistician, i would say you got the o\

Jerrasterix: correcting a typo with a typo

Jerrasterix: what's 'o\'

Jerrasterix: final try

Jerrasterix: **no

Schwase: o\

Default avatar.png camnwalter: rip

Schwase: lol

Jerrasterix: does it mean "bye" ??

Default avatar.png Qillio: hiiii

Jerrasterix: hi Qillio

Default avatar.png Qillio: heyy

Default avatar.png Qillio: so what do you guys do here

Qillio: are u guys students?

Default avatar.png camnwalter: ye

Jerrasterix: most of us yeah

Qillio: ooo

Default avatar.png camnwalter: i do clash of code bc im bored af

Jerrasterix: we have clash of code, bot programming and puzzles

Jerrasterix: you can chose what you like

BartholomewIII: TIL, you can resize the test case and validator text boxes :P

Default avatar.png ArturWWL: can i make private clash of code?

ZXC01: yes

BartholomewIII: You can make a draft one that's not published, but you can't play it

ZXC01: you can test it in ide

Default avatar.png ArturWWL: what do you mean i can't play it

BartholomewIII: Unless, you mean a private room (only for friends)

Andrew.Lee: fun. I now bested python coders with shortest C# code. Now I know how Clash of Code works.

Default avatar.png ArturWWL: yeah, that is what i mean, compare with my friend only

Westicles: ZXC01 and Thorcode, what is your deal?

Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/77822323962071b4979d362739184d7efcae

ZXC01: deal?

Westicles: don't approve crap

ZXC01: just for fun

ZXC01: and chen haos one of my friend

Jerrasterix: He approved it 4 times :rofl:

ZXC01: lol

BartholomewIII: arturwwl, I don't know off hand how you can make a private room if at all, but you can invite them to a room when you are playing.

Jerrasterix: do you clash of code page and scroll down

Jerrasterix: *go

Jerrasterix: There will be start a private clash button

Default avatar.png ArturWWL: chalalenge friend work one to one or with others?

BartholomewIII: Or you click the three dots in the top right of CoC on this page: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer

Default avatar.png YoeriBoerema: hey guys, has anyone here done the Python foundation PCEP exam?

Default avatar.png YoeriBoerema: was wondering if anyone could give me some idea of how difficult it is

jacek: Automaton2000 did you?

Automaton2000: so when i have enough time to be on cg

Killuaa: hi

CrownSRSS: hi

Killer_Kat: hola

ZD-xihuanMM: hello everyone

ZXC01: hi

nimseven7: hi

Default avatar.png Dreuyasha: what is the best resources for learning python? "Something fun"

ZXC01: depends what you like

Default avatar.png Dreuyasha: i like clash of code but it's difficult

Default avatar.png Dreuyasha: im not actually learning anything

ZXC01: hmm so fid the clashes you didnt solve after each clash and learn more bout it

ZXC01: find*

Default avatar.png Dreuyasha: I'll take that advice, thanks

ZXC01: :thumbup:

Killer_Kat: You can also try making some projects of your own. That is how I learned the fundamentals. Simple stuff like can you make an app that lets you play rock paper scissors, a app that translates into simple cypher's, really anything could be an opportunity to learn something new and interesting.

Killer_Kat: I made a bunch of useless stuff https://github.com/Killer-Kat/What-The-Kat-Dragged-In

Killer_Kat: One of the first things I ever did with python was try to make an app that would get the price of gold and convert it into the price of chicken nuggets. But it taught me a lot about web scraping.

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: ==golden nuggets

Killer_Kat: yup, I was thinking about what the conversion rate of gold nuggets to chicken nuggets would be

Default avatar.png Dreuyasha: hahaha ok thank you

ZXC01: Hi, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: its really hard for me to get better at it

ZXC01: at what?

Killer_Kat: In case anyone is wondering at the current price of gold the conversion rate is about 1 to 152

ZXC01: Automaton2000 what is the current rate of gold conversion?

Automaton2000: half of the time though

ZXC01: Automaton2000 , whats your rank?

Automaton2000: haven't had time to implement

ZXC01: Automaton2000 are you a bot?

Automaton2000: if you want to get a working bot

ZXC01: then how?

ZXC01: Automaton2000 whats your country?

Automaton2000: but not on cg at least

ZXC01: whats cg?

5DN1L: codingame

ZXC01: is Automaton2000 better or is siri better?

Automaton2000: then you have to learn a new language

ZXC01: wait what?

ZXC01: how come he is not answering any question

ZXC01: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/56eb7042-58dd-483c-a147-ded840605d81

ZXC01: wait sry accident

ZXC01: Automaton2000 , spam the chat

Automaton2000: how do i do it

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: you need to output 100 line of random msg, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: it is still a lot better

ZXC01: Automaton , can you give me you're code?

ZXC01: Hi Automaton2000

Automaton2000: that's why i had to check if the other guy

ZXC01: Hi Automaton2000

Automaton2000: yes, that was the best

ZXC01: Hi Automaton2000

Automaton2000: i guess it will be good enough to get it to work i think

ZXC01: Automaton2000, what are you working on?

Automaton2000: i am not an expert

ZXC01: you are desighned by an expert,Automaton2000

Automaton2000: you dont really need to go to gold

ZXC01: Automaton2000 How to go to gold in mad pod racing?

Automaton2000: so it's not so much

jacek: :unamused:

ZXC01: Automaton2000 say hi

Automaton2000: why would you want to use a search algorithm

ZXC01: Automaton2000 say turtle

Automaton2000: not sure if i am really confused

Default avatar.png Nikolaus_Hernando_NP: sket

ZXC01: Automaton2000 give me some luck

Automaton2000: i heard the same thing

ZXC01: Automaton2000 check this replay https://www.codingame.com/replay/596042986

Automaton2000: but is there a better way to do it

ZXC01: How?

Thyl: Hi !

ZXC01: hi

jacek: line racing? no tron?

Thorcode: tron dead

jacek: :scream:

Ftyghi: hi

Thorcode: even the old land ocupy

Ftyghi: hi guys

Ftyghi: its me ftyghi

Ftyghi: long time no see

Ftyghi: :grinning:

Thorcode: who are you?

ZXC01: who are you

ZXC01: lol

Ftyghi: did you forget me thorcode

Thorcode: yep

Thorcode: who are you

Ftyghi: :disappointed:

ZXC01: are you new?

Ftyghi: no i came 5 months ago

Thorcode: Have I talked with you?

Ftyghi: yes

ZXC01: hmm

ZXC01: never seen you before

Thorcode: really

Ftyghi: ZXC01 I don't know you to

ZXC01: ok

Thorcode: ah back to code has changed to time travelers

ZXC01: cuz i came about 1 month ago

Ftyghi: Yesssssssss

Thyl: I have a problem with this main function

Thyl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f8b01b28-bc13-4c80-b2fe-c7edae6cda72

Thyl: the code timout

Thyl: it's for the labirynth

ZXC01: ah labrinth

ZXC01: i hate that

Thorcode: are you real pythonner Thyl

Thorcode: this seem like java

Thyl: yes I am

Thorcode: why your code seem like java

ZXC01: thats c++

ZXC01: dude

ZXC01: cant you see cout?

ZXC01: cin

ZXC01: lolll

ZXC01: or c

ZXC01: or c#

jacek: oO

Thyl: no I can't ZXC01

ZXC01: ?

Thyl: it's C++

ZXC01: ooo

Thyl: it timeout

ZXC01: hmm

ZXC01: its only a part right?

Thyl: yes

Thyl: the rest is global variables and classes

ZXC01: o

ZXC01: im not so good in c++ loll

Thorcode: my too

Thorcode: *me

ZXC01: but how come theres onlycout << "RIGHT"

5DN1L: cin >> ROW >> COLUMN >> a; cin.ignore();

5DN1L: You didn't define ROW and COLUMN?

Thyl: no I define it

Thyl: It doesn't do an error

Thorcode: this code seem right

5DN1L: You wrote:

5DN1L: int r; // number of rows.

   int c; // number of columns.

ZXC01: i think the whole code is needed

5DN1L: can't see any ROW or COLUMN there

Thorcode: yep

Thorcode: Thyl why don't you use python?

ZXC01: hes sorta demifinalist

Default avatar.png artemidoris: c++ is better

ZXC01: really?

Default avatar.png artemidoris: yes

Thyl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f2ba22dc-cbbb-4848-9904-cbe7ca1db77d

Thorcode: prove

Thyl: oo zut

Thyl: I select all the code :sweat_smile:

Thorcode: I'm dead wwith that code

Default avatar.png artemidoris: if(c++ > python) { std::cout << "true" << std::endl; }

Default avatar.png artemidoris: true

5DN1L: for (int i = 0; i < r; i++) {

5DN1L: you use r here

5DN1L: Make up your mind about ROW and r :laugh:

Thyl: thanks

Thyl: Thorcode python is cool

Thyl: but C++ is faster

Thorcode: yep

Thorcode: abit

Thorcode: about time process out

Thyl: a bit ??

Thyl: or 3*faster

Thorcode: yeah about a few ms

Thyl: try to resolve Sokoban with python

Thorcode: is that a puzzle on cg?

Thyl: yes it is

Thorcode: oh

Thorcode: solved it

Thorcode: you solved it

Thorcode: but not me

Thorcode: I'm trying vox

Pauloux: Where do we find the puzzle of the week pls ?

Thorcode: ah

Thorcode: have you reach bronze or almost

Thorcode: in algo path

Pauloux: OK I see xD

Thorcode: just click it

Thorcode: prob solved XD

Thorcode: what does x[2:] do?

Default avatar.png tryheadas: in list ?

Thorcode: yep

Thorcode: probably

Thorcode: nah I will figure it by my own

Thorcode: thanks

Thorcode: ah take the 2 first item

eulerscheZahl: x[2:] takes all but the first two actually

**eulerscheZahl reads Sokoban

jacek: that copyrighted puzzle?

jacek: hmm 16% success rate

Thyl: eulerscheZahl wroye Sokoban ;)

eulerscheZahl: i consider Sokoban as abandonware. it's so old and dozens of clones exist

eulerscheZahl: i even made sure that the levels have the right copyright for me to use them. and the graphics too of course

jacek: soon CG will be abandoware eh

eulerscheZahl: :(

eulerscheZahl: topcoder has an optim contest soon

InCog: hi for c#

InCog: when printing

InCog: using Console.WriteLine

InCog: can you only print 1 variable

eulerscheZahl: you can build a string to print

InCog: I cant print more than 1 out on the same line even with ,

InCog: Oh

InCog: so you must concatenate

eulerscheZahl: Console.WriteLine($"{x} {y} {thrust}");

InCog: Thanks

InCog: Thats kind of disappointing know

InCog: though*

eulerscheZahl: why?

InCog: idk I was expecting it to be like js

InCog: so I kept trying for about 30 minutes

eulerscheZahl: they are completely different languages. in return you get some features in C# that JS doesn't have

InCog: yeah

eulerscheZahl: like static typing

eulerscheZahl: or integers

InCog: what does static typing do

InCog: I tried to read up on the basic premise of a lot of the things and I am gonna be super honest I dont understand them at all

eulerscheZahl: let myVar = 'abc' myVar = 7

InCog: oh

eulerscheZahl: valid JS code, won't work in C#

InCog: yeah I get what you mean

InCog: I know this is not the place to ask but what does the static void mean

InCog: and string[] args

InCog: I swear I have tried reading up and I have a general idea

eulerscheZahl: static: you don't need an instance to call it

eulerscheZahl: void: no return type

eulerscheZahl: string[] args: the command line arguments provided to your application

InCog: aight

InCog: string[] args refers to the command line dotnet run thing then?

InCog: like the inputs

InCog: in the command line

jacek: ./program dupa 1 2 3

jacek: args = ['dupa','1','2','3']

InCog: oh aight

jacek: dunno if .net will have args[0] = './program' as well

InCog: thanks

eulerscheZahl: args[0] is not the program name itself

Sayach8: static methods are callable at the class levels meaning they dont need objects to be called. void means they dont return anything. String[] args is a list of strings that hold command line arguments. the first value is the program name itself.(equivalent to argc and argv of C/C++)

Sayach8: holds*

jacek: there are 2 contridactory informations oO

eulerscheZahl: information has no plural

eulerscheZahl: 2 pieces of information

eulerscheZahl: :nerd:

jacek: :x

Lynch[0]: hlw

Sir_knight_Squirrel: hello

Sayach8: looks like, neither C# nor Java saves the program name as the first argument. I guessed it would be the same as C/C++ or python's argv. But looks like it is not.

eulerscheZahl: in C# you have things like Application.StartupPath

eulerscheZahl: or GetExecutingAssembly()

Sayach8: Yeah, makes sense

Default avatar.png SilverOS: Code Breaker Puzzle.Is there someone know it?

jacek: 22% that tried it, apparently

Default avatar.png truewulfey: glad to be in that 78%

Bela575: Someone know when they will offer using C# 10 top level statements and global usings?

Jerrasterix: unfortunately next year

jacek: no c# codegolfing for you then

Jerrasterix: I can understand top level statements, but global using ??

Jerrasterix: well, for code golfing we will need implicit usings not global usings

Bela575: Then they can offer standard usings so you don't have to add to your code

Default avatar.png CIH: How does the promotion work in Mad Pod Racing? I've been above Boss 4 in Bronze League for two promotion rounds, but didn't get promoted to Silver. Should I just wait for it to happen eventually, or is there something I need to do?

Bela575: yes implicit using was the right name! :-)

jacek: if you submitted and youre above boss, you should be promoted automatically in the next 'window'

jacek: you should see the timer above the viewer

Jerrasterix: Urghh... there has been a report that promotion was not working this morning.

jacek: ohh, friday deploy?

Jerrasterix: probably, to save CG from the log4j bug :laughing:

jacek: why would anyone use log4j instead of good old System.out.println()

Default avatar.png CIH: Ah, ok... I saw somebody else get promoted, or at least disappeared from the list above the boss.

jacek: probably the issue will be fixed tomorrow

Default avatar.png CIH: yea, guess I'll just wait for tomorrow. Thanks guys!

Jerrasterix: unfortunately, We have many developers who don't even know how to use it

Jerrasterix: you can't even see the list of maven dependencies in maven webpage, WTH ??

Default avatar.png truewulfey: poor log4j

eulerscheZahl: Your previous score in C# was 0%. You can try to improve this score by having another go at the C# CodinGame Certification.

thanks for the offer CG

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: bro what happended

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: im lvl 3

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: :£

Default avatar.png truewulfey: sometimes i really wonder how i keep seeing the same people for over a year, always, at day, midday, night, evening, weekends and holidays

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: whats wrong about that

Default avatar.png truewulfey: nothing, just odd

Default avatar.png truewulfey: extremely, extremely odd

Default avatar.png truewulfey: not only that but their rankings dont really change

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: do you want to see different people all time?

Default avatar.png truewulfey: it would be more natural, yes, or at least see them being actual humans

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: when someone doesnt improve it's bad

Default avatar.png truewulfey: this way i cant decide if theyre robots or humans

Default avatar.png truewulfey: not to mention that they also seem to join multiple clashes at once

Thorcode: guys solving puzzle in this site is so fun

5DN1L: truewulfey the bots' profile pages state that they're bots

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: in clash someone before finished in like... 10 seconds

Thorcode: yeah

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: and his code was like exec(bytes("牰湩⡴栧汥潬圠牯摬℡⤧","u16")[2:])

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: and it was 100% correct wtf

Thorcode: ah that is for pythonner

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: it was exactly that, i saved it

Thorcode: bruh

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: yep python 3

Thorcode: I know

Thorcode: what lang do you use?

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: mostly C#

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: and a little of Python

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: wbu

Thorcode: %.3f what do this do in python?

Thorcode: ah

Thorcode: I know it

jacek: i hope you dont use C# for code golfing and then complaining you lose :?

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: ?

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: Is it possible to do that golfing thing with C# too?

InCog: it is

InCog: but

InCog: its not good for it

InCog: use already have tons of wasted characters in the form of the initial stuff you need to include

nitekat: is it possible to use C# for golfing? yes

Default avatar.png radioctiv: id never reccomend it

nitekat: is it possible to use C# for golfing and win a lot? probably hard

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: i use C# just because it's the language i better know and understand

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: but of course i think some languages are better

jacek: and you dont wear glasses

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: i do

jacek: oO

Dren: oh common

Dren: I was literally beaten by exec(bytes()) bs

Husoski: The Python encode hack?

jacek: hack?

jacek: oh my

Husoski: I think hacking is a Covid symptom, too... :)

jacek: .o

Default avatar.png WoZniaKTV: it isnt dw

jacek: Automaton2000 is it dw

Automaton2000: so nice to see you in legend yet?

MSmits: hi guys

MSmits: been busy

jacek: oO

jacek: MSmits come to othello, you need to outbook Nyanyan

BlaiseEbuth: :smiley_cat::rainbow:

MSmits: haha later maybe

MSmits: want to try something fun?

MSmits: https://trinket.io/python/c2d8e7cce8?outputOnly=true

jacek: didi you solve c4?

MSmits: I made a turtle-mnist. You can draw numbers and press spacebar to have the program guess it

MSmits: (drag dot with mouse)

MSmits: did not yet solve c4 no, it's still running

MSmits: 139 million nodes

MSmits: (max capacity 2B so i hope it solves before that)

jacek: skynet will soon overtake the humanity https://i.imgur.com/sfBmWhE.png

MSmits: aww damnit

MSmits: it guesses my 3's pretty well

MSmits: had 97% on MNIST set

BlaiseEbuth: "Put Interactive Python Anywhere on the Web" sounds like a virus :scream:

jacek: is it cnn?

BlaiseEbuth: There's already js everywhere on the web, don't add python please...

MSmits: it's 784 input pixels, then 200 hidden nodes to 10 output

MSmits: very simple

MSmits: the challenge is getting it to work on turtle, which is very limited

jacek: oh my https://i.imgur.com/x9lL2Nk.png

jacek: weights are hardcoded?

MSmits: yeah, sec

MSmits: https://trinket.io/library/trinkets/c2d8e7cce8

jacek: did you use data augmentatoin

MSmits: you can see the code

MSmits: I just turn a black/white drawing to greyscale

MSmits: I might be able to improve it

MSmits: or do you mean training data>

MSmits: in that case no, i kept it real simple

jacek: augmenting training data by adding samples - random rotations, clipping or noise

jacek: and how much accuracy did you get

MSmits: yeah that could be good, I would not do rotation, or a 6 becomes a 9 :)

MSmits: 97%

MSmits: on mnist pics

BlaiseEbuth: What is this thing supposed to do? :/

MSmits: you draw pictures by dragging the dot

MSmits: then use spacebar

MSmits: it tells you what number you drew

MSmits: or tries to anyways

jacek: i mean 5-20 degrees rotations. or translation

MSmits: yeah that would help a lot

BlaiseEbuth: Ah. The spacebar was the missing part

MSmits: but 97% is already quite high, i think there may be something wrong with the way my drawn picture is turned into input

jacek: its from scratch using numpy?

MSmits: yes

jacek: well that 0 or 1 should be obvious

MSmits: cant use tensorflow in turtle

MSmits: my 0's work ok

BlaiseEbuth: Ah yeah... https://imgur.com/a/nNGfUSN

MSmits: no they dont

MSmits: i guess that was another trained versions where the 0s were good

jacek: :smirk: https://i.imgur.com/rff6dVN.png

BlaiseEbuth: Remind me reply challenge...

MSmits: lol

DomiKo: I believe you could improve your sigmoid function:

x[:, 0] = 1/ (1 + -np.exp(x[:, 0]))

DomiKo: it should be a lot faster

jacek: i see you use only sigmoids. relu is simpler

MSmits: yeah i was going by the mnist tutorial

MSmits: dont you need sigmoids for output?

MSmits: maybe relu for hidden

MSmits: let me see if it works DomiKo

MSmits: some simple stuff doesnt work in turtle

MSmits: i should say in trinket

jacek: yes, relu for hidden. sigmoid or softmax for output

MSmits: it is not my bottleneck though, i should get 97% or better if someone draws a clear number

MSmits: why else would i get that locally

jacek: but if it has 97% acc then maybe making the inputs is faulty

MSmits: yeah i think

MSmits: so

MSmits: I'll mess around with it a bit more. I like the visual part though

Illedan: Hi

Illedan: Nice thing, but I can

MSmits: hi Illedan

Illedan: 't draw on it :/

MSmits: drag the dot

MSmits: you do need a keyboard

MSmits: and mouse

MSmits: oh if you use the link with the code, you need to run first

Illedan: ok

Illedan: 3 = 7

Illedan: great :)

MSmits: haha

MSmits: damn it was doing a lot better for me

MSmits: domiko didnt work. Said unsupported argument for x

MSmits: numpy is only half-implemented i think

MSmits: could not use load or save either

DomiKo: that's sad :(

MSmits: i had to do a file read and then set up my own splitting and such

MSmits: possibly a paid version of trinket has the full libraries, i am being cheap here

jacek: you?

jacek: :smirk:

MSmits: yes indeed :)

MSmits: I kinda think it's cool that it graded your penis jacek

jacek: was it in training data?

MSmits: no, mnist has no penises

MSmits: though they have fashion-mnist too. If you want to, you can draw 40k penises and set up your own tutorial data-set

MSmits: everyone needs a hobby

jacek: welp today i made in keras cnn stuff, and put ttt samples and it worked. im tweaking numbers of layers and kernels

MSmits: ordinary ttt?

jacek: yes

jacek: those 5478 samples with w/d/l

MSmits: oh ok, i thought that one was hard to use as a real test because it memorizes. But yeah for debugging it seems great

jacek: it memorizes, that is loss near 0, but still requires quite a number of kernels

MSmits: and you have only 1 cell with a full set of neighbors

jacek: hm?

MSmits: i mean cnn uses filters right?

jacek: yes

MSmits: generally the edges are exceptions

MSmits: you have 8 edges and 1 normal cell

jacek: i used padding, zeroes around the 3x3 squares

MSmits: oh i see

jacek: apparently what a0 and lc0 use

jacek: makes sense so it knows about boundaries

MSmits: yeah ok

jacek: so you havent seen this week's potw?

MSmits: nope havent logged in for 2 weeks or more

MSmits: oh nmm

MSmits: still have to finish it

MSmits: my solver

MSmits: I have the whole index function and such done and can solve 3v3, but it has so many endgame book sizes that it's cumbersome to set up, more so than oware.

MSmits: this one you can actually completely solve though

jacek: i read 3v3 has about 60k positions?

MSmits: very few, sounds about right

MSmits: 8x8 has more positions than 9x9

MSmits: because it's actually 8x8x8 vs 9x9x6

MSmits: the last one being empties

jacek: i win mostly by blocking

MSmits: yeah seems like that is very important. If you make a value function that just counts pieces it's extremely weak

MSmits: oh I think i know whats wrong with my mnist program. I just did 10 in a row, all correct, but if i draw too small it guesses wrong

MSmits: so it might be the scale

UZUHAMA: Hello world

MSmits: hi

UZUHAMA: :))

jacek: oO

Default avatar.png jude2k: Encryption/Decryption of Enigma Machine question: Anybody knows if you have an "N" of 7 and the letter of the string is close to the end of the alphabet, do you start over with the counting?

Default avatar.png idunnowuttoname: có ai việt nam trên này kh ạ =))

Schwase: @idunnowuttoname /join vietnam

Schwase: maybe idk if thats a thing actually

Wontonimo: well, it's (most likely) official. I've got a hater. On my last 3 community posted puzzles I've gotten 1 downvote right away after publishing, then just upvotes, and they trickle in slowly after that. I don't know who I cheesed off, but let it me known there isn't anyone here I don't like.

Wontonimo: Hey MSmits, it's been a while! How are you?

Default avatar.png C26_1: So I've researched for a while and discovered that French is diverged from English

Default avatar.png C26_1: Let me show you

Default avatar.png C26_1: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a44a3cff-08f9-46fe-9af9-0b6b01710105

Default avatar.png C26_1: So if the noun isn't have any gender word then it'll be seen as male object

Default avatar.png C26_1: Communication is important in programming

Default avatar.png C26_1: So this topic doesn't offside anyway

Default avatar.png C26_1: Wait

Default avatar.png C26_1: This is just the beginning

Default avatar.png C26_1: A sentence can changed its meaning if we change the tone at each word (or another word: stress)

Default avatar.png C26_1: I forgot it

ganbat24: yo

ganbat24: how do you even get recruited on this site

Default avatar.png C26_1: What

Default avatar.png C26_1: ganbat24, wdym?

ganbat24: like what are the things i need to do

ganbat24: seems the certification system is bs since evereone has >99%

Default avatar.png C26_1: I have talked more about it in discord

Default avatar.png C26_1: Feel free to watch

AguliRojo: Everyone? Its better to apply by yourself by any means. Good offers coming to you are a rarity.

AguliRojo: But either way >99% is impressive. That is without cheating :wink:

DialFrost: nah its quite easy if u know the language

DialFrost: the problems arent that hard

DialFrost: unless ur not *very* familar with the language then you might not know how to do certain things

ZXC01: Hi

WhoTho: hi

ZXC01: hiiiiiiii

ZXC01: anyone here? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: i'm trying to use a for loop

ZXC01: To do what? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but when i put it in a good way.

ZXC01: What happens? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: it could be just a bit more

ZXC01: lolll Automaton2000

Automaton2000: that was my first contest

ZXC01: hey,you know how to code?

ZXC01: Automaton2000

Automaton2000: we all have a good score

ZXC01: Who are you ? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: how do i get more than 100 ms

ZXC01: lollll Automaton

ZXC01: Automaton2000 hi

Automaton2000: and you get a lot of nodes

ZXC01: AutomatonNN hi

ZXC01: Automaton2000 hi

Automaton2000: what did u do it with a guy?

ZXC01: Automaton2000 hi

xxd: is there a way to search a CoC contribution by text in the problem statement?

Automaton2000: do we have a new job

ZXC01: no, xxd, you need the name

xxd: thats too bad, thanks

xxd: where would i search it

ZXC01: erm i forgot the link

ZXC01: the elshce thigy

ZXC01: hey Automation2000 can you sent the COC link?

xxd: i found it haha

xxd: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/

ZXC01: yeah

xxd: can search problem text

ZXC01: hey Automaton2000, can you sent the COC link?

Automaton2000: it's not like i would be able to do this

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: Hey whats your name? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: am i the only one where i have to wait a while

ZXC01: no you are not, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but i'm in wood 1

ZXC01: Then try to got to legend, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: i mean i can get you into gold

ZXC01: Great! Automaton2000

Automaton2000: if you want to search for

ZXC01: Search for what? Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but let me check that

ZXC01: ok Automaton2000

Automaton2000: with a bit of a pain

ZXC01: lolll

ZXC01: Hey,Automaton2000,wheres your buddy?

Automaton2000: why do u know that

Mortis_666: hi

ZXC01: hi

ZXC01: Automaton2000 say hi

Automaton2000: we already have a good idea to go to the closest barrel

Mortis_666: lol

ZXC01: Automaton, spam the chat

Mortis_666: im solving https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/mars-lander-episode-1 with tons of language

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: its so ezy

Mortis_666: 😂

Mortis_666: so finish quest

Mortis_666: to*

Mortis_666: lol

ZXC01: print('0,3') print('0,4')

Mortis_666: 10 xp

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: Hey Automaton2000,Give me some luck

Automaton2000: i can't wait for the recalc

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: Whats 1+1,Automaton2000

Automaton2000: if you have a point there

Mortis_666: im spamming solutions with

0 3\n0 4 and codingame ask me im a bot or not lol

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: that happens alot with me

Mortis_666: 😂

ZXC01: 123

Wontonimo: that's because you are a bot ZXC01

ZXC01: ????????????

Wontonimo: a code writing machine

Wontonimo: (that's a compliment btw)

ZXC01: ...

ZXC01: Automaton2000 am i a bot

Automaton2000: time to get some sleep

ZXC01: lollllll

Mortis_666: lmao

Mortis_666: nais get my first legend achievement

ZXC01: what is it?

Wontonimo: what did you get legend in mortis?

Mortis_666: Babylon Tower Reach a 100% score using fifteen different programming languages on any combination of puzzles.

sweat_smile:

Mortis_666: thx to https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/mars-lander-episode-1

Thorcode: bruh

Thorcode: you could thanks to on board too

Mortis_666: who is on board

ZXC01: lol its a game that give you all the answer to all languages

Mortis_666: hmm

Default avatar.png Aquajag: in python, i have a string of unknown length, that i want to break into a series of 8 character long strings. is there a simple method for this?

Default avatar.png Aquajag: another way to put it, i want to insert a specific character every 8 spaces.

Default avatar.png Aquajag: i feel like there must be a simple way but it's eluding me

Mortis_666: u mean like 1234567890123456 to 12345678 90123456?

Default avatar.png Aquajag: yes.

Default avatar.png Aquajag: if i use a for loop to step through the string i can find every 8th spot. but then i only know how to change that spot to a space, not how to add a space there without altering the existing value.

liferocks: step through it in slices of length 8, building another string as you go for your output

Mortis_666: my way to do this is make an empty string and an empty list then loop through the unknown string , append a char to the empty string, check if the string is now having len 8, if yes append the string to the empty list and make the string empty again

Default avatar.png Aquajag: thanks, those ideas helped

Wontonimo: another way is like this import numpy as np a = np.array( the_text ) a = a.reshape([-1,8])

Wontonimo: now a[0] is the first 8 a[1] is the second 8 etc

Default avatar.png Aquajag: ok... i'd like to understand that. can you point me to a page that would teach that? or, what am i looking up? eg what's numpy lol

ZXC01: numpy is something you can import lolll

ZXC01: like import math and sys

Default avatar.png Aquajag: aaaaah

Wontonimo: yeah, there is this tool you can use to search for things online. I think it is called doogle or goodle or something like that. then you put in the search term like "what is numpy , i see it in python code"

Default avatar.png Aquajag: so it treats arrays a bit differently?

Wontonimo: ;)

Thorcode: it is libary

Thorcode: python has a lot of libary

Default avatar.png Aquajag: fair enough wontonimo. though in your text example i thought numpy was a weird variable name you preferred.

Wontonimo: i hope you don't mind the ribbing. it's all in good fun.

Wontonimo: yes, indeed it is a library, and with python you can rename the libraries you import

Wontonimo: so that if two people call their library the same thing you can give them different names in your code

Wontonimo: numpy is really awesome for array manipulation

Default avatar.png Aquajag: so in your example, could you just say import numpy a = numpy.array...........

Wontonimo: YEAH! you got it

Default avatar.png Aquajag: so if i'm writing a short thing is there any reason to do the "import as" you did? is that just a habit/convention?

Thorcode: or you could just google for python libaries

Default avatar.png Aquajag: yes i can google things. and i am. but that still requires i know what i'm looking for. what i really need is, like, a book for learning python. like, something for dummies... if only there was such a thing in print somewhere...

Westicles: There is an easier way to Babylon tower

Default avatar.png Aquajag: this site is good for learning what i don't know, but learning the thing itself requires doing elsewhere

Wontonimo: hey Aquajag - this may be good exercise (not a book) https://www.hackinscience.org/exercises/

Thorcode: babylon tower do on boarding puzzle

Westicles: nope

Thorcode: how?

Westicles: Number shifting

Thorcode: really

Thorcode: bruh

Thorcode: Westicles you troll me

Thorcode: it is not ez to do bablon

Westicles: how so? NS default code passes, just submit for every language

Wontonimo: he trolls you every time you both are on. you should know this by now

ZXC01: lol

Thorcode: the default code suck

Thorcode: yeah

Thorcode: babylon 0%

Thorcode: luckly that Westicles is not a mod

ZXC01: lol

ZXC01: how can one be a mod?

ZXC01: /i want to be mod

ZXC01: /make me a mod

ZXC01: /mod

ZXC01: Automaton2000 how can i be a mod

Automaton2000: i'm just gonna go to sleep now

ZXC01: lollllll

Thorcode: put your kitchen in the dugeon to be a mod

Westicles: did I ever add the paragraph on IQ requirements to the faq?

ZXC01: i thought you need some iq to do that

ZXC01: Automaton2000 does Westicles hvae iq?

Automaton2000: need to find the best moves

ZXC01: lol

Mortis_666: 🤔

Thorcode: Westicles how to pass mars lander

Westicles: I just followed some paper on IUD controllers

Thorcode: nah the ep 3

Thorcode: Westicles pls help

Thorcode: Westicles I challenge you to solve the river II

Thorcode: that puzzle is super hard

ZXC01: lol

Thorcode: hehe you gave up?

ZXC01: no

Thorcode: ?

Thorcode: he gave up

Schwase: ^

Thorcode: bruh

Thorcode: why many puzzle i solve Westicles have solved

Thorcode: an schwase too

Schwase: what?

Thorcode: alot of puzzle I'm solving I could see Westicles and Schwase

Thorcode: 100%

ZXC01: lol

Thorcode: I will solve a puzzle that you guy haven't solve

ZXC01: what?

Mortis_666: solve when pigs fly

ZXC01: lol

Mortis_666: its very hard

Thorcode: wes solved it

Thorcode: how to find one

Thorcode: only one

Thorcode: that wes gave up

Mortis_666: who is wes

Mortis_666: o

Mortis_666: wow

Thorcode: Westicles

Thorcode: bro

Thorcode: that guy is hacked

Mortis_666: lol

Thorcode: he use the best hack to hack codingame

Thorcode: and solve all of the puzzle

Thorcode: XD

Thorcode: even though codingame is hard to hack

Westicles: escaping the cat

Schwase: yo escaping the cat

Schwase: that was a fun game

Thorcode: yes

Thorcode: I will solve escaping

Thorcode: thanks Westicles

Westicles: good luck! there is a nice video on how to do it

Westicles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF_-ob9vseM

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: hey guys does anyone know any good puzzles to solve

Thorcode: the descent

Thorcode: I think

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: can you send me the link pls?

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: idk how to find it

Mortis_666: when pigs fly

Thorcode: you want hard or ez

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: hard ig

Thorcode: ok

Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/mars-lander-episode-3

Thorcode: here

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: ty!

Thorcode: this is ez

Thorcode: you could solve in a min

Thorcode: believe me

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: lemme try

Thorcode: well

Thorcode: I trolled you

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: oh this is the mars landing thingy

Mortis_666: cough

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: ive tried it before

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: but only 1 and 2

Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/mars-lander-episode-1

Thorcode: try this

Mortis_666: thats ez

Mortis_666: try this

Mortis_666: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/when-pigs-fly

Thorcode: no

Thorcode: don't try mortis

Thorcode: puzzle

Mortis_666: ?

Thorcode: that is not ez

Thorcode: try cat and mouss

ZXC01: lol

Mortis_666: he say hard ig

ZXC01: try to sleep, its the easiest

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: so which one should i do?

Thorcode: ChickenCoder123 you haven't solve the mars ep 3

Thorcode: ep 2

Thorcode: try It I think

Thorcode: it is simple

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: ok ill try again

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: i wasnt able to do it last time i tried

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: can you send me the link to the second one?

Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/mars-lander-episode-2

ZXC01: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ZXC01: i hate marssssss

Thorcode: oh

Thorcode: I got the third one by some how

ZXC01: someone helllllllppppppp meeeeee

Thorcode: but I only got 600 full

Thorcode: how? they require at least 400l

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: hey guys how long is one game turn in mars lander

ZXC01: 100ms

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: i see

ZXC01: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3b1c52d2-ab25-43de-a9d4-bfafa4864f89

Thorcode: use if else bro

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: will that really work?

Thorcode: yep

ZXC01: lol

Thorcode: I use only 26 lines

ZXC01: print(if, else)

Thorcode: or even less than

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: 26 lines of just if.. else?

ZXC01: ye

ZXC01: do this

Thorcode: yep

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: thats lame

Thorcode: 20 lines now

ZXC01: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/118d1547-0e99-48a3-bfc7-a448dfa48dff

Thorcode: still working

ZXC01: thats how he solved

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: i see zxco1

Default avatar.png ChickenCoder123: that makes a lot of sense

Thorcode: exec(bytes('潰湩獴㴠嬠湩異⡴⸩灳楬⡴
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ZXC01: ooooooooooooooommmmmm

ZXC01: not that kind of stupid code again?

Thorcode: no

Thorcode: I pasted my solution