UZUHAMA: This code vs zombies thing is making me insane
Thorcode: that's question I think have no ans
AlkhilJohn.: damn
Thorcode: like the bird or egg was born first
AlkhilJohn.: a smooth block of code
AlkhilJohn.: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/664a28d9-96f3-4399-8325-2e12a89f4b77
Thorcode: bruh
Considerably_Disagreeable: what if input is like "hello"
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: or True
AlkhilJohn.: bruh
AlkhilJohn.: Try The Canadian Computing Competition
AlkhilJohn.: Do the Senior one
Thorcode: the what?
AlkhilJohn.: If you can get at least 3 problems in an hour, you are a decent coder.
Thorcode: bruh the statement of that look like a big mess
AlkhilJohn.: lol ok whatever u fucking think
Thorcode: nah I just tell the truth
Thorcode: messer than codingame
Thorcode: but some algo is ezer than codingame
UZUHAMA: EYEYEYYYYEEEEEESSSS
UZUHAMA: FINALLLLYYYY
UZUHAMA: IT"S WORKING
UZUHAMA: Thank God
UZUHAMA: Even though my score is pathetic
UZUHAMA: It's working, at least!!!
Oroppo: Curious as to how this works
Oroppo: looks fun
Hoke: How to stop solving CoCs and go to sleep already pleas halp
TeslaRam: impossible
Hoke: absolutely
Dren: I mean it's 6 in the morning here
Dren: I don't think I can tell you the answer
Rudeus-scanf: ตู่
C26_1: um
C26_1: Can I ask
C26_1: I try to make a while loop to read a inp file till the end of a file
C26_1: the condition is a value that is not zero
C26_1: or not an empty list
C26_1: def Show(): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2f3429ae-68c7-46b9-af8a-3e76dbc29c03
C26_1: I try to read the file even tho the file has the content in there
C26_1: Cam 12000 12 L Nữ Cam
C26_1: Like that
C26_1: á
Thorcode: use trimp() bro
gamerrboii: i cant get past level 2 in the ai
gamerrboii: it where i need to do stuff with nextcheckpointangle
gamerrboii: do you guys know what a easy level is?
Thorcode: ?
gamerrboii: im new and i need something easy to begin with
Thorcode: ah mad pod race
YajPinkNinja: can i choose which clash of code mode i want to play somewhere? so i only play that mode
JonasOi: Yo where do I find some actually easy stuff on this site
Urutar: Public Clash of Code mode is random; you have to start a private clash with someone to choose the mode
Thorcode: yep YajPinkNinja but you must play private
Urutar: Easy puzzles can be found here:
YajPinkNinja: ah alright thanks
Urutar: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
Urutar: And you can find more here: https://www.codingame.com/training
Urutar: Otherwise, just hover over Activities and click practice
iQuack: Aight, and where are the even easier one because im looking at this and it's still too hard
Urutar: Chose another easy one - some of them are harder than others
Urutar: Which one are you struggling with?
derjack: temperatures, the descent are one of the easiest
Thorcode: chose ez with out player name
Thorcode: or power of thor
derjack: pot :o
Thorcode: power of thor ep 1
derjack: they didnt change the name yet
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: why do they need to change the name of it
derjack: maybe not the name because its some myth. but graphics are marvelish
Canoob: HELLO
Urutar: I suppose mabye for copyright reasons?
Thorcode: I think so
derjack: so you need to change your nick ~
Thorcode: ?
Thorcode: what happen with my
Thorcode: nick
derjack: its copyright violation :V
Thorcode: reallly
Thorcode: who will report me with marvel
derjack: me
derjack: :imp:
Thorcode: how?
Thorcode: :money_mouth:
Urutar: You do realize that the name Thor precedes Marvel?
Thorcode: nah I don't think marvel will care this
Uljahn: just report him back with hasbro :smirk:
Thorcode: really
Thorcode: ah I will report him with ponny
Thorcode: ah it's hasbro
Thorcode: Thanks Uljahn
derjack: and ill report to kyoto animation
Thorcode: ? why kyoto here
derjack: some catty business
Urutar: You will al be reported to the Greek pantheon then ;)
Thorcode: problem with string kinda trash
Uljahn: Automaton2000: i'll report to Greenpeace for abusing anime animal rights
Automaton2000: eulerschezahl do you know how to save the day
Thorcode: ah yeah Automaton2000 beats eulerschezahl
Automaton2000: my issue is that you get on the bomb input is from enemy is owner, source, and type. everything else ...
Thorcode: have AutomatonNN dead
Thorcode: I could not chat with that AutomatonNN
Thorcode: THe resistance is not as ez as I though
5DN1L: There are reasons for that puzzle to be classified as Very Hard, yeah?
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: although I know that that puzzle use moorse
5DN1L: I guess the difficulty of the classical puzzles (i.e. those listed in the achievements) are more fairly classified than the community puzzles
Thorcode: yeah the community is supper hard
5DN1L: i mean the difficulty of the community puzzle may not always be a fair reflection, it may be higher or lower than how difficult it actually is
5DN1L: but the difficulty of the classical puzzles is quite appropriately set
Thorcode: like code breaker
Thorcode: that puzzle should be hard
Thorcode: or medium
5DN1L: Wait until you see more complex ones :smirk:
Thorcode: ok
5DN1L: Difficulty is comparatively speaking
5DN1L: The success rate is a more subjective mesaure of difficulty than just the views of the community puzzle creator, moderators and test-coders
5DN1L: Automaton2000, what do you think of the difficulty of the puzzles on Codingame?
Automaton2000: you know my languages is python
5DN1L: That's just one language, not languages. And it's a totally irrelevant answer, sad
Thorcode: ok
Thorcode: wait what the resitance success rate is higher than power of thor 2
Jerrasterix: yeah, resistance is easy, the only problem is optimizing it for large messages
Thorcode: really
Jerrasterix: I mean, the puzzle is easy but optimizing it for large msg. is very hard
Thorcode: ah
Thorcode: I could not even change morse to text
Jerrasterix: yeah, I did it when I knew only some concepts still I got a solid 50%
Jerrasterix: I am still at 50% :P
Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/595475671
Thorcode: still got 5 giant :(
Urutar: Have ya tried evading to the top or bottom, so they follow you and clump up?
Thorcode: or go straight to them
Thorcode: :)
Urutar: But when you're close, try evading upwards, then they'll clump up
Thorcode: like distance =10?
Urutar: Something like that
Thorcode: the horde is super hard
Thorcode: is there any easy puzzle in hard?
5DN1L: You look for the puzzles which have been solved by more people
Urutar: Well, this one was relatively simple to solve for me:
Urutar: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/highest-truncated-pyramid
Thorcode: ah I know how to do resistance
Thorcode: change all of the words below to moorse
Thorcode: yeah I got 20%
DialFrost: wats the logic behind highest truncated pyramid
Thorcode: ?
DialFrost: the puzzle
DialFrost: wats to logic behind it to solve it
Thorcode: --.-------..
['--.', '--.', '--', '--.', '....']
Thorcode: wait what why the second test case has 1
Thorcode: code = {'A': '.-', http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1bf821a0-0764-4750-8ce8-5d3a85925797
Thorcode: why my dic got eror
Thorcode: def createDict(): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/334c39b7-740f-4a7e-a7e5-86f0716f389a
Thorcode: this is all of my code error
Thorcode: IndentationError: unexpected unindent
Uljahn: the error is somewhere else, not in this code
Thorcode: ah I found it I use try but no except
Thorcode: thanks Uljahn
Uljahn: also this function makes no sense
Thorcode: ah I just made a dic to change from text to moorse
5DN1L: Just define the dictionary like your first code does. You don't have to def createDict to define and return it.
Uljahn: yep, the function way looks like overengineering without reasonable profits compared to an assignment to a global variable
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: I just copy a part of my code
RandomAustralian: agsduiasgdiuas
RandomAustralian: the amount of time I went
RandomAustralian: thinking that "not" was not valid in c++
RandomAustralian: cause the syntax wasn't highlighted
RandomAustralian: ;-;
5DN1L: Syntax highlighting in CG IDE may not always be correct
AshishRegmi: hello
DialFrost: hai
Jerrasterix: yeah, C# codes are not even getting highlighted as before
Considerably_Disagreeable: huh, so I fully understood encrypted decrypted my own messages using the ceasar cipher, for the question its a shift 3, *1 %26 why is the first encrypted message, that is "hello world", not the correct encryption?
Considerably_Disagreeable: hello world in the ceasar cipher is, Khoor zruog
Considerably_Disagreeable: not IFMMPAXPSME
Considerably_Disagreeable: u have multiple different shifts for the letters, when its only a 3 shift encryption.. atleast for ceasars cipher
Considerably_Disagreeable: if its not a 3 step shift, then its simply not even comparable to ceasars cipher...
Considerably_Disagreeable: simply is not
Considerably_Disagreeable: its a different formula
Dr.Speedy: guys
Dr.Speedy: help me out with mad pod racing
Jerrasterix: Considerably_Disagreeable its based on Caesar cipher not caesar cipher itself
Jerrasterix: Dr.Speedy what do you want ??
Dr.Speedy: i cant seem to see where to add the thrust
Considerably_Disagreeable: so then whats the formula? @Jerrasterix
Considerably_Disagreeable: because its not x+A*B%26
Jerrasterix: its ((X+A)*B)%26
Considerably_Disagreeable: B is 1
Considerably_Disagreeable: meaning it is the ceasar cipher
Considerably_Disagreeable: because b is 1
Dr.Speedy: Edit this line to output the target position
and thrust (0 <= thrust <= 100)
i.e.: "x y thrust"
Jerrasterix: A need not be 3
Considerably_Disagreeable: the first few questions are the ceasar cipher
TheUmgawa: Wasn't it 27, because of the space? I don't want to bother digging up my code for that one right now.
Considerably_Disagreeable: because b is 1
Jerrasterix: it can be anything
Considerably_Disagreeable: i am excluding the space
Considerably_Disagreeable: what i am saying is, is that the shift is literally wrong
Dr.Speedy: this the code that im strugling with Edit this line to output the target position
and thrust (0 <= thrust <= 100)
i.e.: "x y thrust"
Considerably_Disagreeable: because since b is 1, its shift 3
Considerably_Disagreeable: which is ceasars cipher
Considerably_Disagreeable: if b was different
Considerably_Disagreeable: then it is not ceasars cipher
TheUmgawa: Are you getting hung up on history or something?
Considerably_Disagreeable: the question states, the first few answers are ceasars cipher but its not?
Considerably_Disagreeable: its not even encrypted using the same shift
Jerrasterix: nope A=1 for some...
Considerably_Disagreeable: which its supposed to be
Considerably_Disagreeable: for ceasar cipher, A!=1
Considerably_Disagreeable: thats not ceasars cipher
Jerrasterix: YES It is not CAESAR CIPHER
Considerably_Disagreeable: really
Considerably_Disagreeable: the question states this, The first 4 test cases have B=1 and therefore can be solved using a simple Caesar cipher.
Considerably_Disagreeable: if its not ceasar cipher then why is it saying its using it?
TheUmgawa: It's a Caesar shift, not Caesar's cipher. You can shift it by one, by three, by 24, whatever you want, and it's just a Caesar shift.
Considerably_Disagreeable: thats not a ceasar shift. Thats a randomized shift.
Considerably_Disagreeable: and its simple wrong, to state that it can besolved with a ceasar shift
Jerrasterix: First of all who told caesar shift is shift by 3 ??
Jerrasterix: its a common shift not the only shift
Considerably_Disagreeable: pretty positive ceasar didnt have a PRN
TheUmgawa: I think we have different definitions of "random." Shifting all of the letters of the alphabet unilaterally has zero element of randomness to it.
TheUmgawa: Or wait, the Ovaltine decoder ring is a random cipher!
Considerably_Disagreeable: You are getting to technicalities, such as a question like, I dont think we just breath just oxygen
TheUmgawa: You're getting into technicalities about Caesar ciphers, when it's obvious to everyone else in the room that it's just a plain ol' Caesar shift until B changes to something other than 1.
Jerrasterix: Considerably_Disagreeable I would like to know what you understand abt it ??
Considerably_Disagreeable: did u like not read my code @jerrasterix
Considerably_Disagreeable: hmmmm
Jerrasterix: you never shared code
Considerably_Disagreeable: i did
TheUmgawa: While B = 1, Ralphie from A Christmas Story could decode the message with his Little Orphan Annie decoder ring, as long as he knows what the shift number is. And if he doesn't, it's going to take a maximum of 26 attempts, assuming it's not plaintext to begin with.
Jerrasterix: never have you ever shared it
Considerably_Disagreeable: pretty positive i did, but here it is again The first 4 test cases have B=1 and therefore can be solved using a simple Caesar cipher.
Considerably_Disagreeable: lul wrong paste
Considerably_Disagreeable: def _decrypt(cipher): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6f02a26e-60a4-4fc9-96bb-3fd9403d4c15
TheUmgawa: Why on earth would you hardcode 3 in there?
Considerably_Disagreeable: well after u explained yourself TheUmgawa it does seem quite riduculous
Considerably_Disagreeable: god that spelling
Jerrasterix: may I know who told you that the caesar cipher has only 3 as shift value??
TheUmgawa: The ghost of Julius Caesar, I hope. At least this story will get more interesting.
Jerrasterix: Its there right, not your prob...
Jerrasterix: well it must have been a ghost of a prankster bcoz a caesar cipher can have any value(0 to inifinity) as shift
5DN1L: any value less than infinity and more than negative infinity
Considerably_Disagreeable: So, you are making fun of me because I used a static value, for the shift value?
Considerably_Disagreeable: How is that not trash?
Uljahn: re-read the statement carefully, Considerably_Disagreeable
Considerably_Disagreeable: I dont take kindly to being made fun of
Considerably_Disagreeable: you guys are wrong
Uljahn: stop trolling or ban
Considerably_Disagreeable: im not trolling, how is that trolling?
5DN1L: Considerably_Disagreeable, relax and take a deep breath.
5DN1L: We'll help you
5DN1L: But please calm down.
TheUmgawa: Now, now, no need to ban anyone. I think he's just confuzzled.
Considerably_Disagreeable: I just dont like to be made fun of...
Urutar: They're not, they're just confused why there is a hardcoded value in there
Considerably_Disagreeable: ima go take a breather
Urutar: And who ever told you that that's necessary should be reprimanded, since that's bad teaching.
Urutar: In case someone did tell you.
TheUmgawa: Because that (i-3) value is always going to return the same thing. It might be right in one case, but it's going to be wrong in every other case.
Urutar: Exactly
Urutar: The shift value needs to shift aswell and that'S not confusing at all XD
TheUmgawa: Of course, my code for that problem was four helper functions and a tester. No sense in trying to get everything done in one function, I think, especially when it has to rattle through a bunch of possibilities.
Jerrasterix: He misunderstood that caeser cipher must only have 3 as the shift value
TheUmgawa: Yeah, that's what it came down to.
Urutar: Well, he'll figure it out, or we'll be there to help him.
Urutar: Surrender is not an option XD
5DN1L: I agree with you, Urutar
handrianina: Who finished the Bracket Extended Edition :)
5DN1L: According to the statistics, 692 coders finished it. I don't think you need the whole list of who they are :joy:
5DN1L: What's your question about it
derjack: enhanced edition?
handrianina: Struggling with the algo :grimacing:
5DN1L: Extended, enhanced, ultimate, extreme <- 4 puzzles derjack
5DN1L: handrianina What have you come up with so far?
derjack: huh
derjack: talking about exp farming...
C26_1: Ah
5DN1L: lol derjack
C26_1: I have an idea
C26_1: I'm gonna make a puzzle that is related to Covid-19 (or disease in general)
handrianina: Like the position of the opening bracket and the position of its closing or himself :)
handrianina: Nice C26_1
5DN1L: handrianina and...?
handrianina: Too long here...
5DN1L: a general idea of how you handle the input
5DN1L: not the code
C26_1: but
C26_1: It's very hard to explain though
C26_1: I need someone
C26_1: I don't very good at choosing word
handrianina: 5DN1L Split the expression and check every char ...
5DN1L: ok, so you've got all the positions of the brackets, yeah? what next?
derjack: brackets.. is this some state machine thing?
5DN1L: Goal: Decide whether an expression contain valid bracket pairs (by flipping some/all of them if necessary)
5DN1L: contains*
C26_1: @5DN1L, do you means this bracket expression (()()) is valid?
C26_1: And ()())( is invalid?
5DN1L: The question is not valid or not by itself.
5DN1L: The question is whether it is possible to become valid or not
C26_1: ah
C26_1: ok
KareemDev: amira
C26_1: So ()())( is possible input
C26_1: ()())( => ()()() (Flip the 5th and 6th bracket)
C26_1: ok
5DN1L: Yes
C26_1: I understand
5DN1L: The link is here
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/brackets-extended-edition
magicKULA: hello
C26_1: @magicKULa, hello
5DN1L: C26_1 You know you don't need @, right?
C26_1: Ah
C26_1: Ok
5DN1L: It's up to you, but it's not needed
C26_1: Hey everyone
chenhaorantianjiayi: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/lt8-eOi-QpE-H3T
C26_1: I'm gonna tell a classic puzzle made by me
C26_1: This is maybe related to disease
C26_1: 0 9 1 2
1 4 5 2
3 5 6 1
C26_1: This is an example of a 'crowd'
C26_1: Where each number represent the 'HP' or how resist they are compared to Covid-19
C26_1: 0 is a special character where it represent an infected person
derjack: but are they resistant to Covid-26_1
C26_1: The goal is to find how many step needed that all person will be infected
C26_1: So we gonna have 3 inputs
C26_1: The width, the height, and the strong of the virus at each step
C26_1: So, I'm choosing virus-ATK as 1, for simplycity
chenhaorantianjiayi: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/M2K-41J-qOw-UZo
C26_1: simplicity*
C26_1: Step 1: Cell (1,1) is infect the cell (1,2) and cell (2,1)
NotANick: Which puzzles using recursive functions in answers? I need grinding with recursive
C26_1: So the crowd now look like this:
0 8 1 2
0 4 5 2
3 5 6 1
5DN1L: NotANick https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/brackets-extended-edition
NotANick: thanks
C26_1: Step 2: Cell (1,1) infect with cell (2,1). Cell (1,2) infect cell (2,2) and cell (1,3)
C26_1: So now the crowd look like this:
0 7 1 2
0 3 5 2
2 5 6 1
C26_1: You know what I mean
C26_1: It will continue until all people has a number 0
C26_1: That means all people will be infected
5DN1L: NotANick You may also look up "recursion" here: https://chadok.info/codingame/tags_list.html
NotANick: thank you very much
5DN1L: :)
C26_1: 5DN1L, What do you think about my puzzle?
lakaoe: how to look if something is even in python 3 code
lakaoe: if i==(2 % 0)
C26_1: if num%2==0:
lakaoe: something like this
lakaoe: ok thx
C26_1: ok
5DN1L: Sorry C26_1, I have no comment.
C26_1: Ok
MIPSTER: happy new year
Overbed: ?
C26_1: Wait
Overbed: 5dn1l can you help me with this clash of code?
C26_1: MIPSTER, Do you realize that this is 09/12/2021 and we need to wait 23 days to get Happy New Year firework?
C26_1: Sadly, there will be no firework anymore
lakaoe: sadly
5DN1L: Overbed, please ask your question here, and see who can help you here (maybe me or others) :)
Overbed: John's task is to plant as many trees as he can in a square grid
One tree takes up 2x2 spaces
Input
An integer n Length of one side of a square
Overbed: so this means it takes 2 squares
C26_1: I don't know how Covid-19 affects everyone's personality and life
C26_1: With me, it affects me a lot
Overbed: what does this mean that input is?
Overbed: C26_1 our country is handling it good i'd say so it isnt really affecting my life
C26_1: Input: 6
-> Each tree needs 6x6 square to plant
Overbed: ohhh
C26_1: Find the maximum number of trees you can planted
Overbed: huh
Overbed: Input
2
Output
1
Overbed: so it needs 2x2 here to plant?
lakaoe: it needs anytime i think
amin3919: Where I can see the answers
Overbed: you cant
amin3919: why?
Overbed: o nly poeple who share it at the end of clash of code or in contribution
Overbed: idk why
amin3919: ok thx
Overbed: how to make the input that codingame uses(like slight_smile) turn into :)?
Uljahn: it also turns :_/ and :_\ (without _) into :/
C26_1: Oh
C26_1: Hello
C26_1: Uljahn, I have a idea for a new puzzle
Uljahn: hm, also :confused :
Uljahn: C26_1: show me the code
C26_1: But it's fairly hard to explain it properly just using text
Overbed: yes uljahn what function can i use to check if the input includes something like slight_smile?
C26_1: Ok I'm out
Uljahn: looks like pattern matching
Overbed: i cant use count or for loop cz i want it to print it out can i
C26_1: Can I ask something?
C26_1: Example:
3 4 5
1 2 3
4 6 2
C26_1: What does programmer called that?
C26_1: A 2d-array or a field of numbers?
C26_1: Cuz I need the tag for my future contribution
lakaoe: how to look what the lowest integer is in a code
Overbed: for i in range(...):
lakaoe: like if its 3, 4, 70
C26_1: Either using lowest number algorithm or using built-in method min() of Python standard libraries applied in an Array to get a result
lakaoe: it says its 3
C26_1: For example:
Overbed: how do you use min()
C26_1: print(min(Array))
Overbed: cant u use sorted() for that
C26_1: I think if you want
C26_1: print(sort(Array)[1])
C26_1: That kind of nested function is kind of nasty
Kailynn: nah
C26_1: print(sort(Array)[0])
C26_1: I'm doing it wrong again
C26_1: Why would programmers invented the first element as 0-index?
Overbed: no idead
C26_1: I think it will be way easier if programmer invented the first element in an array has index number 1 and so on
PolentaEater: C26_1 also you don't use sort that way. either a.sort(); print(a) or print(sorted(a))
Kailynn: ok
C26_1: Ah
C26_1: I see
C26_1: I found an anwser
magicKULA: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/21117838e1abc460a2d05ba42e4567475b8f46c
AhmetHakan25: puşt
C26_1: magicKULA, you don't need to paste the link
C26_1: The address to store an element is represented in binary. If we started counting at 1 instead of 0 then If will have an extra leading digit
C26_1: For example, if you have an array that has 8 element, computer will store the element from address 0 to 8 (which is, 0 and 111 respectively in binary)
PolentaEater: C26_1 about tags: when you edit the tag field of your contribution, you get tag suggestions. If I am unsure, I search for existing problems that use the same tags. I think this is good practice, because it avoids generating new tags when similar ones already exist, ore using existing tags with a different meaning
Uljahn: "2D Array" might be a good match
C26_1: Ok
C26_1: Thank you
Uljahn: https://www.codingame.com/learn/2d-array for similar puzzles
magicKULA: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2111804363f46335ecb95bdb45ccb71217b4379 for pyhon
C26_1: Uh
C26_1: Uljahn
C26_1: I'm sorry if I disturb you
C26_1: but there are some newbie who paste CoC link at this public chat
Uljahn: magicKULA: don't post invites here, use #clash channel or use live-clash-of-code channel on discord
C26_1: bye bye
C26_1: I'm sleep
C26_1: This is 9:15 PM at Vietname
C26_1: Vietname*
C26_1: Vietnam*
creeperZnation4: Bye
creeperZnation4: good night XD
derjack: Oo
NotANick: I dont really understand why my code isn't working can anybody help me?
NotANick: for Brackets, Extended Edition
camnwalter: whaddup peeps
DHenricks: waddup
trebel: Anyone familiar with C? Have a project I'm stuck on and need a little push
jacek: git push
BlaiseEbuth: trebel https://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh/
trebel: LMAO
trebel: bookmarked
BlaiseEbuth: :upside_down:
derjack: Automaton2000 do you even push
Automaton2000: that doesnt help me at all
derjack: i gave up, i used nn in 9mm
GoodPuffer: what
GoodPuffer: i dont even get it what i have to do with strings
GoodPuffer: on C++
GoodPuffer: guys whats the easiest coding language
NotANick: script languages
Uljahn: easiest is no code
GoodPuffer: but i want to learn about C++
GoodPuffer: but i dont understand what i hav eto do with strnig on clash of code
NotANick: have a look at rust
NotANick: the language one
NotANick: not game
GoodPuffer: ok
Wontonimo: he is trolling you
NotANick: no i am really not
NotANick: https://www.rust-lang.org/
NotANick: rust written with c++
Wontonimo: C++ is a great language but it can be hard for new developers. Are you new to coding GoodPuffer ?
Uljahn: managing strings in c++ is so much harder than in python
NotANick: fastest as c++ and easiest as js people say this about rust
GoodPuffer: wontaonmio
GoodPuffer: yes am new in coding
GoodPuffer: wontonimo
Uljahn: why c++ then?
GoodPuffer: hmm
GoodPuffer: good question
GoodPuffer: well
GoodPuffer: why not
Uljahn: that's pretty hardcore
GoodPuffer: people said that C++ was good
GoodPuffer: so yea
GoodPuffer: but this game has bad tutorial in my opinion
GoodPuffer: cozat beginning it says what u can to do but then the next one of the beginning (step 2)
InCog: if you are new to coding
InCog: this aint the site
GoodPuffer: oh
InCog: the beginner puzzles
GoodPuffer: hmmm
DylanGTech: This is a good debate to have actually: I started with Java/C#. My community college actually started students with C
InCog: require quite abit of skill
GoodPuffer: oh
InCog: like
GoodPuffer: but what website can i learn
InCog: knowledge
InCog: codecademy
InCog: good for the very basics
GoodPuffer: ok thank you
InCog: then pick up a project
InCog: and practice
DylanGTech: C is good for fundamentals of computing like memory and such. Not very good for abstract concepts or ease of use
InCog: then afterwards if you wanna test your skill or knowledge come here and practice
DylanGTech: As a beginner language
GoodPuffer: oh ok thnak you
DylanGTech: @InCog there is the Learn page. Hope I'm not writing entire tutorials there for nothing :P
InCog: c# seems very good for beginners
Wontonimo: here is a walkthough of making tic-tac-toe in the web https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTWrWM1UsnA it's a really good video and may be really fun for you to see stuff actually working
InCog: at least for me
Wontonimo: it's by "the coding train" who has literally thousands of videos
InCog: DylanGTech Its good but if you wanna learn there are tons of other better sites
InCog: meant specifically
InCog: for learning
InCog: this is more like enrichment and learning new concepts
DylanGTech: I love C#. Performance-wise, it tries. But C# and especially newer versions of .NET make it SO GOOD for focusing on the code, and improving logic
InCog: You get what I am saying
DylanGTech: Oh yeah, definitely
InCog: c# feels so intuitive
InCog: compared to js
InCog: js feels so easy
InCog: but so hard to understand
InCog: reading code is nigh impossible unless you wrote it or its well written
DylanGTech: Speaking of intuition, I actually have the urge to try new languages with new concepts, even if they make me wanna scream lol
DylanGTech: Zig has so much potential imo
DylanGTech: But progress on that language is slow, and it's extremely unstable
InCog: I probably have to get the basics of c# down before I can think about that
GoodPuffer: how do i get tutorial on codecadamy
InCog: @GoodPuffer just click the language you want
GoodPuffer: ok
GoodPuffer: but i dont see anytutorial
InCog: theres no tutorial its just lessons
DylanGTech: I actually learned Java as my first language on CaveOfProgramming, back when his lessons were free
InCog: the lessons are the tutorial
GoodPuffer: what
GoodPuffer: so its like only for people with knowledge?
InCog: https://www.codecademy.com/courses/
InCog: no
GoodPuffer: oh
InCog: its to learn
DylanGTech: CodeAcademy is to learn, Codingame is to practice.
DylanGTech: Think of it like that
Wontonimo: hint GoodPuffer : once you find some tutorials/examples/lessons that you like, don't just keep moving to the next lessons week after week. Instead, redo lessons until you can nearly do it from memory and reflex before moving on.
eulerscheZahl: codeforces is to compete
GoodPuffer: ok thank you
DylanGTech: Wontonimo I actually have a similar, yet different approach: I prefer explaining things and having users understand the fundamentals of the language, and explain to death why things are that way. Extra work, but it affords newbies flexibility going forward. If they wanna use tuples for literally everything instead of classes, they can do that (AND understand why that might be a bad idea lol)
DylanGTech: My C# tutorials on the Learn page are a bit slow to go through, but they are full of examples
DylanGTech: Or rather, based heavily around examples
InCog: You know what
InCog: I will actually look through them
InCog: I have never been there
InCog: but that sounds really useful
InCog: compared to just learning syntax in abstract context
DylanGTech: Like, explaining how a variable is literally a piece of the computer's memory, with an arbitrary name and purpose, took a lot longer than I thought
DylanGTech: InCog I personaly only have 2 tutorials up so far, and they are geared at absolute beginners who installed the compiler on their own, but I'm certain a lot of people can learn a thing or two. Something I found out by accident is that there is a LOT of demand for tutorials on this site for languages
InCog: yeah thats what I am
InCog: just started programming after a 2 year hiatus
DylanGTech: Welcome then :)
DylanGTech: My tone in those is very humor-based. Makes it fun for me, and will probably keep the attention of any students
DylanGTech: Especially younger ones
Wontonimo: js and c# are really quite different. One is a prototyping lang, and one is an object oriented language.
InCog: yeah
InCog: the difference is stark
Wontonimo: once you wrap your head around prototyping it is really quite nice. personally I miss the flexability of js when using other langs
DylanGTech: Despite my love for C#, jobs and applications that require fully-compiled languages and tiny, efficient code might be where I end up working long-term. Hence why I LOVE niche up-and-coming languages like Zig. It's basically everything C SHOULD be
DylanGTech: They don't have classes, but they allow you to do SO much more with structs and enums
DylanGTech: Large default library too, and functions/structs can be nested
DylanGTech: Just buggy as all heck
DylanGTech: Maybe in a few years it will be usable in production cases
BlaiseEbuth: Potatos and carrots are really quite different. One is used in fast-foods, and one is orange.
Wontonimo: i see you haven't participated in many multis or optimization competitions DylanGTech.
Wontonimo: if you like working with efficient code give Ultimate Tic Tac Toe or Connect 4 a try
Mortis_666: hi
DylanGTech: You're right Wontonimo. I unfortunately don't do a ton here. Besides writing tutorials, chatting with you all, and the occasional Clash of Code
DylanGTech: I attempted that Nintendo encryption challenge recently
InCog: Wontonimo yeah completely agree thats one aspect of js I love
InCog: the flexibility it provides
DylanGTech: I came REALLY close, but I ran out of time irl, and I wanted to go to bed lol
Wontonimo: heck, Tron (now called Line Racing) may also be fun for you
DylanGTech: I'm gonna do that now actually. Got some time
Wontonimo: ah, the ninto challenge is all about using the right intrinsics imo
DylanGTech: I took a math-based approach on that actually
DylanGTech: Tried to reverse-engineer the algorithm
Wontonimo: are you familiar with writing simulations and using search algos like minimax?
DylanGTech: Kinda like how you can use order of operationg in algebra to isolate "x" or something
DylanGTech: Wontonimo not quite sure in all honesty. Never used minimax, but I have used algorithms for things like sorting, traversing trees, etc
DylanGTech: My community college CS professors assumed that we were not going for our Bachelors, so they HAMMERED into us as much as they reasonably could.
69razer69: wontonimo
Wontonimo: 69razer69
BlaiseEbuth: Carrot
69razer69: bro u r 606 in cyborg up rising
Wontonimo: ??
DylanGTech: I had 2 weeks to write a binary tree creation/traversal library in C during my 2nd semester in college lol
Wontonimo: I'm not living up to my potential. i hang my head low 69razer69
DylanGTech: I think those professors pushing me hard REALLY made me the borderline expert I am today
DylanGTech: My university that I transferred to after getting my Associate's was so lax, and I felt like I didn't learn much
DylanGTech: I sometimes wish I had instead left with my Associate's, maybe gone to a boot camp, and started writing open source even more often to appeal to employers
DylanGTech: Would have saved so much money that way
69razer69: lol i am living to my potential and still my bot is shit wontonimo
69razer69: can u enlighten me with some strategies
Wontonimo: [channeling the sarcasm of Blaise] focus on winning
Wontonimo: but seriously,
69razer69: i am focusing as much as i can
Wontonimo: I just study the replays of bots that are higher in the leaderboard than I am
Wontonimo: and try to code their behaviour
Wontonimo: in the process of doing that more ideas and insight come
69razer69: how can i watch replays of higher ranked bots
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/ghost-in-the-cell/leaderboard
Wontonimo: every multi has a leaderboard. from there you can click on "view last battles" for anyone on it
Wontonimo: i'd recommend NOT reviewing the top people and instead view people at the top of your league first
69razer69: oh yeah i can see
69razer69: thanks
69razer69: u just showed me how to fish
Overbed: i do pot racing but the screen video isnt moving
Wontonimo: refresh
Overbed: doesnt my code dissapear then?
Wontonimo: copy it into your buffer if you are concerned
Wontonimo: hey 69razer69 , I don't see your bot in cyborg uprising
eulerscheZahl: "i'd recommend NOT reviewing the top people"
why not?
BlaiseEbuth: Shhhh toad. Listen to Wontonimod
eulerscheZahl: no
Wontonimo: good question. When someone is in Wood 2 and only has some of the options available and not the whole game, reviewing Legend bots is interesting and insighful, but not immediately useful
eulerscheZahl: i may have missed the wood2 part
BlaiseEbuth: See. Just listen
eulerscheZahl: but from bronze on i see absolutely no reason not to get inspiration from the best
Wontonimo: maybe i should have said something about that, and been more specific. yes, I agree with you 100%
BlaiseEbuth: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
lakaoe: how to use count function when i want to count how many "A" there are in input
eulerscheZahl: input().count('A')
lakaoe: okay thx
BlaiseEbuth: thx googleZahl
eulerscheZahl: i take that as in insult
eulerscheZahl: as an*
Overbed: lol
Uljahn: LMGTFYZahl
BlaiseEbuth: Well... It is.
Overbed: s = input()
print(s.count("A"),+" ",s.count("C")," ",s.count("G"),+" ",s.count("T"))
Overbed: this doesnt work
Overbed: for
eulerscheZahl: oh wait, you meant it the other way. somehow i thought your message was "euler had to look it up himself"
Overbed: Input
AACT
Output
2 1 0 1 counting the A C G or T
Overbed: i want to count the A, C, G or T's in input but this doesnt work
Overbed: s = input()
print(s.count("A"),+" ",s.count("C")," ",s.count("G"),+" ",s.count("T"))
Overbed: nvm i got it to work
Overbed: i just removed the " "
eulerscheZahl: print(s.count("A"),s.count("C"),s.count("G"),s.count("T"))
BlaiseEbuth: I meant you answered instead to force him to do an exhausting 2sec google search.
Overbed: ?
Overbed: thanks btw eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: true, looking things up on your own is a valuable skill
Overbed: i didnt look it up :)
eulerscheZahl: exactly Blaise's point
BlaiseEbuth: Yup
Overbed: oh forcing euler
lakaoe: what if i want to have +1 everytime it got count in input
Overbed: just count
Overbed: not +1
Overbed: cz it already counts "1"
Overbed: thats the whole function
Overbed: print(s.count("A"),s.count("C"),s.count("G"),s.count("T"))
Overbed: no need for +1
lakaoe: okay thx
Overbed: The program: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bfc7e836-5e5a-4352-8c96-4d379c3cc6d5
e_fishel: hello
Overbed: what does that mean
Overbed: hi e_fishel
e_fishel: hi overbed
e_fishel: i remember you haahahahaha
Overbed: from last evening?
e_fishel: well
e_fishel: last morning
Overbed: oh
e_fishel: because of timezones
e_fishel: but indeed
Overbed: not for me
Overbed: ah
Overbed: whats the website where you can search up the puzzle
Overbed: again
e_fishel: which puzzle
Overbed: every
e_fishel: 'the puzzle'
e_fishel: google?
Overbed: you type in keyword and you get the puzzler
e_fishel: every puzzle
Overbed: something like eulerschezalhgogle.com
e_fishel: what does that mean
e_fishel: euler?
Overbed: the website he made i think
e_fishel: i can't recall such website
Overbed: eulerscheZahl
Overbed: thats his name
Overbed: idk the website
e_fishel: neither do i
eulerscheZahl: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
Overbed: yes that thank you
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ce8cd403-7de1-48e6-9134-d3297f9bc284
Overbed: anyone know what this is?
Overbed: i thought it was the lowest number * (number1 + number2) but the last test fails:
Overbed: 27
6
891
Overbed: 27
6 is 891
Overbed: i got 198
Overbed: OHH ITS FIXED ORDER
Overbed: wait aht
Overbed: what function lets you reverse a text
Uljahn: what are you going to do when there's nobody to answer you in the chat :scream_cat:
Overbed: absolutely something bad
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/690529bc-7669-41ef-a9d0-7ad0340ac17b
Overbed: doesnt work
Uljahn: x * (x + y) doesn't work?
Overbed: i mean the reversed but i almost got it wait
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/649b743d-12e1-48ca-b3bc-52cbed8031e5
Overbed: was 50%
Overbed: but it was reverse so i dont think i can find the contribution
Caticii: anybody doing the 2021 spring contest in js and the code isnt working properly
Overbed: wait
Overbed: i overthinked so much
lakaoe: same
Overbed: x*(x+y) wouldve worked :joy:
Overbed: wait
Overbed: maybe it wouldnt
nitekat: the elif x > y and (y*(x+y)) > 200 condition will never happen
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9412f750-743d-462e-a6ed-80b5929498c2
Overbed: print out
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/695b0bc3-e76d-4d64-83f9-7058f72aee4a
Overbed: how to make something print out as upper but it was lower
e_fishel: flip the case
Overbed: ?
Dren: you need to call it
Overbed: Hello World
hELLO wORLD
Dren: so add ()
Overbed: needs to be
Overbed: what
e_fishel: call the method
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/0c0b964a-86f5-43f9-8288-02859599c89f
Dren: s.lower should be s.lower()
Overbed: look at my code
e_fishel: does it not work?
Overbed: no
Overbed: it prints out
Overbed: "hello world"
Dren: it doesn't iterate over the letters
Overbed: ?
e_fishel: you need the for in
Overbed: ?
e_fishel: for s in input()
e_fishel: doesn't print() generate a new line every t ime?
e_fishel: time*
Dren: yes
e_fishel: so...
Dren: but you can specify end keyword argument
Dren: print(text, end=)
e_fishel: alright
Overbed: ????????????
Dren: so it replaces the default '\n'
Dren: that it adds at the end of every print
e_fishel: that is rather convenient
Overbed: so what do i put in de code
Dren: you can also just do print(end=character)
e_fishel: so that prints nothing
e_fishel: and ends iht with character
Overbed: i dont get it
e_fishel: so it prints character
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/714a04be-5d54-4e46-a009-95a33d1a3a27
Overbed: how to make this code
e_fishel: to make that code what
Dren: yes print(end=character) is the same as print(character, end=)
Overbed: make uppercase letters turn into lowercase
Dren: just shorter
lakaoe: and lowercase into uppercase
e_fishel: s = input()
Dren: map over the string
e_fishel: for i in s:
Dren: map(transform, string)
eulerscheZahl: is the input only letters or also spaces, digits, ...?
Dren: where transform is a function you make
e_fishel: if i.isupper:
print(i.lower(), end=)
elif i.islower:
print(i.upper(), end=)
e_fishel: i guess
Overbed: eulerscheZahl $ABCDEF g12 is an input so i am assuming
e_fishel: i guess you could also use a ternary operator inside print
Overbed: they are spaces and digits and numbers and stuff
eulerscheZahl: evil input, can't just xor every letter with 0x20
Overbed: e_fishel that code doesnt work
Overbed: it just prints out hello world
Dren: because you look at the whole string
Dren: their code is supposed to evaluate on a character basis
lakaoe: you have to make uppercase and lowercase the opposite in the same input
e_fishel: \/shrug
Overbed: sorry i dont get what you are saying
Dren: your code does this
Overbed: do i use a for loop?
Dren: if 'Hello World'.isupper():
print('Hello World'.lower())
else:
print('Hello World'.upper())
e_fishel: s = input()
e_fishel: for i in s:
e_fishel: if i.isupper:
print(i.lower(), end=)
elif i.islower:
print(i.upper(), end=)
e_fishel: does that work?
Dren: you are not supposed to give whole solutions fishel
Overbed: i cant even finish it cz the clash of code (btw its private) just expired
Overbed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bc589605-5aca-4e28-8c3a-2e7fe8a4dcd4
Overbed: doesnt wrok
Dren: because range(text) is not a thing
e_fishel: it's not range(hs)
Overbed: what range then
e_fishel: it's simply s
Dren: for i in text:
e_fishel: not a range at all
Dren: returns t
Dren: e
Dren: x
Dren: t
Overbed: would range return nothing?
e_fishel: range returns all the numbers from 0 to N-1
Dren: range is like a list of increasing numbers
e_fishel: this isn't about numbers
Overbed: ohhh
e_fishel: range is like the iota function
e_fishel: std::iota
Dren: except it's a generator
e_fishel: yeah
e_fishel: iota is an array
Dren: so it is more efficient with large data
Wontonimo: range(10000000) works
Wontonimo: and doesn't use more than a few bytes of memory
Overbed: would that do: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/cdbc3cc0-cdda-4582-a480-7aa1cdee3d89
Wontonimo: list(range(10000000)) doesn't work
e_fishel: it would do
e_fishel: 0
e_fishel: 1
Overbed: ohh
e_fishel: 2
Wontonimo: for x in range(100000):
print(x)
e_fishel: 3Ω…
Wontonimo: range(100000) doesn't really do anything
e_fishel: itself
Wontonimo: you've gotta call 'next' on it to get the next value. the 'for x in some_generator_here:' does that automatically
Wontonimo: you can make your own generator like so
Wontonimo: def so_much_hello():
while True:
yield "Hello!"
e_fishel: is there no * anywhere?
Wontonimo: for x in so_much_hello():
print(x)
e_fishel: like javascript
Wontonimo: will print hello forever
e_fishel: js uses function* foo(){
//generator function
}
e_fishel: with the asterisk
LuisAFK: u can do generators in js?
e_fishel: ofc
e_fishel: indeed
e_fishel: es6
LuisAFK: oof
LuisAFK: can u give example pls
LuisAFK: i never seen
e_fishel: alright
Wontonimo: back in-the-day you'd roll your own generator class, where each object kept track of its internal state and exposed a public 'next'. Under the hood, this is basically what is happening in modern generator functions except that it is shorthand now and supported as first class elements
Wontonimo: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/function*
Wontonimo: ^^ that link won't work. you have to copy it and include the "*" at the end
e_fishel: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4649cf90-5818-4ea3-84c2-79a906c97862
e_fishel: i think that works
camnwalter: test
DHenricks: test
e_fishel: call it like:
DHenricks: test
eulerscheZahl: enough testing
e_fishel: fibonacci.next().value
e_fishel: i think
Overbed: how print an ip adress but then 192.168.0.0/24 only the 24 part
eulerscheZahl: btw Overbed
https://www.w3schools.com/python/ref_string_swapcase.asp
Overbed: for example172.16.0.0/16 would be 16
e_fishel: in js i'd do
e_fishel: .split('/')[1]
Overbed: swapcase is a thing?
e_fishel: LOL
e_fishel: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
camnwalter: test
Overbed: bruh i spent like 13 minutes trying to find
DHenricks: test
DHenricks: tesst
DHenricks: oops
DHenricks: wc
Wontonimo: e_fishel - you can share runnable code segments on tech.io . Here is your code https://tech.io/snippet/cVvH7vg
e_fishel: wow :O
e_fishel: thank you
Wontonimo: ^^ it's the same runtime as codingame so it will work in multis and practice here
e_fishel: :DDDD
Wontonimo: (it is literally the same servers)
e_fishel: awesome
e_fishel: i'll check it out next time
Wontonimo: you can even make it interactive so people can run your code, it asks for user input, and responds. Here is a sample adventure game https://tech.io/snippet/wLSSnKR
Wontonimo: hmm ... it times out a lot faster now than it did a month ago :( not really enough time to play my adventure game
e_fishel: :pensive:
e_fishel: woah
e_fishel: woah woah
e_fishel: it has markdown emojis
e_fishel: :zany_face:
e_fishel: :zany:
Wontonimo: only some
e_fishel: gosh darn
e_fishel: :pensive:
e_fishel: pensive
Wontonimo: :gosh_darn_face:
e_fishel: lol
Wontonimo: I successfully trolled MSmits once and said that you have to press command-Q to reload the markdown if it isn't showing properly LOL
Kailynn: Hey
Wontonimo: he fell for it
e_fishel: :sunglasses:
e_fishel: :wink:
e_fishel: :trollface:
e_fishel: aw man
e_fishel: :100:
Wontonimo: alright, enough of this side chat. lets get back to coding
e_fishel: indeed
e_fishel: literal side chat
Wontonimo: hi Kailynn, welcome to codingame
Wontonimo: there is more to this site than just clash of code. Check out the puzzles (no timers!) https://www.codingame.com/training/easy and the bot battles https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming
e_fishel: i got into clash of code because of a yt video
e_fishel: a swiss youtuber was playing it
jacek: codingame? you mean clash of code site?
camnwalter: hell o world
DHenricks: hi world
DHenricks: :rage:
camnwalter: :money_mouth:
camnwalter: @DHenricks a
camnwalter: where is alecman
camnwalter: i need alecman to save me
camnwalter: ruby god
e_fishel: alecman the computer
camnwalter: hi @BitWolf
jacek: and his greatest enemy, the sapphire
AlecMan: hey dude
AlecMan: ha
camnwalter: NO WAY
e_fishel: LOL
blokman: aaaaaaaaaa
e_fishel: oh my gosh
e_fishel: i'm gonna have to solve this puzzle with O(n^3)
e_fishel: ;-;
jay3332: you aare
e_fishel: the good thing is that, based on the limits, it'll iterate 52000 times
e_fishel: (worst case)
eulerscheZahl: camnwalter BitWolf won't answer you. that's a bot
Wontonimo: oh no euler, don't reveal the big secret that most people on Clash are bots !
Wontonimo: ;)
Uljahn: most people on the chat are Automaton2000 copies :scream_cat:
Automaton2000: i am now in gold
camnwalter: oh sad
camnwalter: didnt read its bio
Wontonimo: the "modern multiplayer" is usually just single player vs bots.
Wontonimo: everyone wants multiplayer, but with so many games available there is a serious lack of other players ... what is a game developer supposed to do?
Husoski: go back to pvm where the whole thing started
blokman: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Wontonimo: first warning blokman, no spamming
Husoski: West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
Flowerbear: when people don't share COC code:
BitWolfStan: it is I, Bit Wolf Stan
Comder: Congramts
Wontonimo: oh Husoski, that's Zork 1
Wontonimo: Zork was the first computer game I ever played (that wasn't a vic20 or atari)
Husoski: I had it on my Kaypro and Atari computers.
blokman: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Husoski: I don't think b-l-o-k-m-a-n groks text adventures...
BlaiseEbuth: Remind me Inform
JariMikkonen: wö
BlaiseEbuth: http://inform7.com/
Wontonimo: here is a great writeup for those interested in how zork worked https://medium.com/swlh/zork-the-great-inner-workings-b68012952bdc
BlaiseEbuth: Do you know Ord. ? That's a recent game that takes back the textual adventure concept in an ultra minimalist way. And you can create your own scenari and share them.
Wontonimo: no, link plz !
BlaiseEbuth: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1079000/Ord/
Wontonimo: http://mujogames.co.uk/ord/
BlaiseEbuth: Yup
Husoski: I know something of the inner workings from decompiling Trinity...I had a disassembler for the Z-machine, too.
BlaiseEbuth: And in a less serious (but more related to AI) way, there's https://play.aidungeon.io/main/home
Husoski: I wonder if that Z-machine was what inspired Gosling to make a VM for Java?
Husoski: Infocom had "write once run everywhere" over a decade before Java.
Husoski: (Almost everywhere. I suspect that Wontonimo's VIC-20 was too small...you could only put about 20KB of RAM on those.)
Wontonimo: I've tried AI dungeon. It does not have object permanence or spacial reasoning. A window can be far underground that leads to a backyard. Or a rhino can be in a shoebox
BlaiseEbuth: And a decade wasn't enough to discourage java creator to commit it, or people to use java... :(
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah Wontonimo, that's why I said "in a less serious way"
BlaiseEbuth: ^^
Westicles: Infocom... that reminds me, I never did solve Bureaucracy
Husoski: That was fun! Random Q. Hacker was the villain!
BlaiseEbuth: French people try to solve bureaucracy for 50 years... :p
Husoski: Hahaha.
Wontonimo: oh but it is fun to play with BlaiseEbuth. You can solve games by giving hints in your answers to guide the story in weird ways
Westicles: the noisome stew kept killing me
NotANick: I learned new shortest trick for php: I learned we dont need php tag actually so we can use <? ?> instead of <?php ?>
jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEkUmYecnk
Wontonimo: there was a dragon quest and I kept describing the dragon as "friendly and small as a kitten" and it just became my friend
Husoski: Wasn't noisome stew in Lurking Horror?
BlaiseEbuth: Exactly Jacek ^^
Westicles: Maybe... it was on one of the airplane tables in Bureaucracy. I can't believe I remember that 35 years later
Husoski: Okay. I remember the computer was a Boysenberry...
Husoski: bye all; got things to see and people to do...
BlaiseEbuth: :wave:
coderlady: Hi there , any recent Java J2EE
Westicles: NotANick, try this:
Westicles: <?=`bash code here`;
NotANick: its echo i readed that
NotANick: thanks regardless
SpaceMan0009: Hi all,
SpaceMan0009: I'm looking for a java developer full remote
did someone have some opportunities?
Overbed: i dont get the mad pod racing how do i change the thrust
Westicles: Wontonimo is not here right now, please leave a message at the tone
jacek: nor madknight?
e_fishel: isn't it great that everyone's nationalities are displayed?
e_fishel: in some cases, even the city
Westicles: Yep! Come visit me if you are in town
e_fishel: no cap?
e_fishel: for real?
Overbed: if next_checkpoint_dist == 50:
print("BOOST") doesnt work
Overbed: why how
jacek: you need to print x y thrust/boost always
Overbed: ???
Overbed: print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, thrust)
if next_checkpoint_dist > 50 and next_checkpoint_dist < 70:
print("BOOST")
jacek: print prints next line
Overbed: then what do i do
5DN1L: You need to print everything including BOOST in the same line
jacek: try print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, thrust, end="")
Overbed: i want boost in it
jacek: also, when you want to boost, you need to print it instead of thrust
Overbed: i dont get it
Westicles: Ah, the Netherlands. Do you know Paul Cooijmans?
5DN1L: Overbed, when you don't need boost, print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, thrust)
5DN1L: When you need boost, When you don't need boost, print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, "BOOST")
5DN1L: oops
5DN1L: When you need boost, print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, "BOOST")
Overbed: i dont know paul coojimans
Overbed: 5DN1L yes i get that part
5DN1L: :clap:
Overbed: can i use if function for this?
5DN1L: sure
Overbed: if next_checkpoint_dist < 60:
print(x y boost)
Overbed: else: print(x y thrust)?
jacek: :+1:
Overbed: it still doesnt boost
Overbed: if next_checkpoint_dist < 60 and next_checkpoint_dist > 50:
print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, "BOOST")
Overbed:
else: print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, thrust)
jacek: whats next_checkpoint_dist
Westicles: there is a channel for racing questions #fr
Overbed: next_checkpoint_dist is the distance to the next checkpoint
magicKULA: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2112470e5a998134200f40d0329fec8347da8a8
Leoduyanh: joe bieden
Leoduyanh: joe dbidne
Leoduyanh: joe binden
Wontonimo: the distance to the next checkpoint will be > 600 because the checkpoints are 600 units in radius
Wontonimo: and the distance is to their center Overbed
Wontonimo: also Overbed, you only get 1 boost in the lower levels, so once you use it trying to use it again just is interpreted as to thrust = 100
struct: we need fuel based csb
Wontonimo: let's make it. in addition, let's make it such that the ONLY controls are to define weights and input to an NN
makerecho: what's up with the bot galore recently XD
jacek: hm?
Velcoro: bots in CoC join, when there's less than 4 players
struct: then i would have to code a NN Wontonimo
Wontonimo: yeah! let's do it!
ZarthaxX: hello
jacek: oh struct, now theres at least 1 nn in 9mm
makerecho: i thougnt only 1 or 2 join, not 5 :D
Wontonimo: hey ZarthaxX, long time (maybe, i have a small memory)
ZarthaxX: no, you are right lol
ZarthaxX: havent been here for weeks
struct: hi ZarthaxX
ZarthaxX: howdy
struct: you have a NN there now?
jacek: you can tell from the points :v
Wontonimo: lol, the point spread is funny
Wontonimo: did you use AZ ?
jacek: somewhat. but i train only value, not policy
Wontonimo: MCTS + NN value
jacek: yes
Wontonimo: how many expansions of the tree are you making per frame?
jacek: you mean rollouts per turn?
Wontonimo: yes, but you arn't actually rollout out, you are using the NN eval
struct: how many expanded nodes I guess
jacek: about 4k iterations per 40ms. iteration meaning selection, expansion, evals and backprop
struct: selection should be cheap right?
struct: in comparison with the eval
jacek: yes
jacek: in 40ms, 26k nodes are made
jacek: i had bad results in the beginning until i made inputs a game phase based
struct: ah so you dont expand and eval all?
Wontonimo: during training, do you rotate the learnings so that your NN learns the board symmetrically ?
jacek: yes
jacek: struct i expand every children with eval
struct: so eval then expand that child
struct: not expand then eval all childs created
jacek: hmm
struct: it should be the 1st one
jacek: select -> isLeaf? expand all its children with evals. backprop
struct: o.o
struct: so you eval all childs created during expansion
jacek: thats why 4k iterations but 26k nodes, considering average branching factor of about 6
jacek: yes, otherwise how would i know which child to choose, if i dont have policy?
struct: but shouldnt the number of evals be = to the number of nodes?
jacek: there is
struct: so 4k = the number of backprops?
struct: I see
jacek: yes
struct: it all makes sense now
Wontonimo: :mind-not-blown:
Wontonimo: :understanding-mind:
Wontonimo: actually, that's really cool Jacek ! My mind is blown that such a technique just lays waste to alternative approaches
Wontonimo: when the game is so small
Wontonimo: it seems like brute force would do well
jacek: i wonder if smits will solve it withing cg constraints
struct: he needs to solve amazons first
struct: I need to find a game to port
jacek: wondev womans?
struct: no, the real amazons
jacek: gonna sleeps eh
struct: gn
C26_1: Oh hello
C26_1: Wait
C26_1: This is the night
C26_1: I shouldn't disturb anyone here
C26_1: Ok bye bye
UZUHAMA: Hello world
BartholomewIII: it's 5 pm here
C26_1: Oh
UZUHAMA: it's 4 pm here
C26_1: So it's not too late
UZUHAMA: yee
C26_1: Can I talk about my puzzle
BartholomewIII: besides, there's no notifs to wake people or anything
UZUHAMA: But the sun's already setting
BartholomewIII: sure
C26_1: Ok
C26_1: My puzzle name: Covid-19 Spreading Model
C26_1: Example: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/06c23d2f-5991-4a7e-b542-5f7ac13a69f5
C26_1: The first number is the width of the crowd, the second one is the height, the third one is how strong the virus is, and the fourth is the crowd itself
C26_1: Each people in the crowd has a number, representing the HP that they have left.
C26_1: 0 is a special number that represent infected people
C26_1: We gonna run step-by-step method apply at the crowd
BartholomewIII: k
C26_1: Although I can't explain the method properly
C26_1: I 'm gonna show it on an example mentioned above
C26_1: There are 5 rules here:
C26_1: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2f40a3fa-dd19-496e-b670-d5f391b23f18
C26_1: And I'm gonna using the kind of coordinate where the left most cell has coordinate (1,1)
C26_1: Example: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5c897864-f130-4023-8319-0d2d3f20c19d
C26_1: Step 1: Cell (4,3) infect Cell (4,2) and Cell (3,3)
C26_1: Now the crowd looks like this
C26_1: 3 4 5 2
1 3 4 2
9 6 0 0
BartholomewIII: I think I get it
C26_1: I should say that if somehow there's a person who has HP lower than 0, then it'll automatically denoted as 0 at any step
C26_1: No one gets cured
C26_1: Step 2: Cell (4,3) infect Cell (4,2). Cell (3,3) infect Cell (3,2) and Cell (2,3)
C26_1: Now it looks like this:
3 4 5 2
1 3 0 0
9 1 0 0
C26_1: Step 3: Cell (3,3) infect Cell (2,3). Cell (3,2) infect Cell (2,2) and Cell (3,1). Cell (4,2) infect Cell (4,1)
C26_1: Now it looks like this:
3 4 0 0
1 0 0 0
9 0 0 0
C26_1: Step 3: Cell (3,1) infect Cell (2,1). Cell (2,2) infect Cell (2,1). Cell (2,3) infect Cell 1,3)
3 4 0 0
1 0 0 0
9 0 0 0
C26_1: Now it looks like this:
3 0 0 0
0 0 0 0
9 0 0 0
C26_1: So in total, we gonna need 5 step that all people will be infected
C26_1: Goal of the puzzle: Find the total step of a crowd
C26_1: 3 4 0 2
10 0 2 1
0 12 4 3
C26_1: Actually
C26_1: Cell (1,2) is been infected two times at the same step
C26_1: So it gains 10 ATK\
C26_1: Not 5 anymore
C26_1: So we subtract the health by the ATK of the virus
C26_1: Um
C26_1: Are you understand?
C26_1: Anyone here?
C26_1: Hello?
C26_1: Hello!!
BartholomewIII: Yeah, I get it. Do you have any questions for me about it?
BartholomewIII: It seems like you got a handle on it.
visva: google
visva: pineapple
visva: on pizza
visva: good thing
visva: or bad thing
visva: how to call grandson
visva: hello google
struct: use the chat for something usefull
visva: call grandson
struct: If you keep spamming ill have to ban you
visva: do ik u
UZUHAMA: Bye
visva: vye
visva: bye*
visva: could some one join the clash thing so it can start
visva: 2 more
visva: 3 more now
struct: stop
visva: stop what
struct: dont use this chat for clash
visva: I am not I am tryna get ppl in here
struct: yes, my message covers that
visva: wait are u the founder of this site
struct: no
visva: oh
visva: u a mod?
struct: yes
visva: do u know java
Ocean_Arbeit: how do you print list number
struct: which language Ocean_Arbeit?
visva: java
Ocean_Arbeit: python 3
struct: visva only a bit
visva: print(something)
visva: ez
Ocean_Arbeit: like i know how to print a certain element but how do you print what number of the list something is in
struct: print(' '.join(list))
struct: number of the list?
struct: can you provide an example?
Ocean_Arbeit: like if I want to print what index
Ocean_Arbeit: a certain number is on
visva: print(arr[i]0
visva: :grin:
struct: list.index(n);
Ocean_Arbeit: like if I try to find 5 in [1,2,4,5,2,3] then I print 3
Ocean_Arbeit: ill try that
Ocean_Arbeit: that worked but i still stuck
visva: do u use replit to code?
Thorcode: nah
Thorcode: I use vs
ZXC01: hi
Thorcode: hi
PoPoPosPos: :blush:
ZXC01: hi can anyone help me with great escape?
Ocean_Arbeit: is there a way to use list.index(_) on a integer
ZXC01: hmm change the int to a str I guess
struct: list.index(integer) works?
struct: or is the list not ints?
Ocean_Arbeit: ohh i changed something for testing that made it not an int
Ocean_Arbeit: thanks
Thorcode: ['--.', '--.', '--', '--.', '....']
--.-------..
Thorcode: can someone explain this for me?
Thorcode: in the resitance
Thorcode: I almost finish all I think
struct: what is there to explain?
Thorcode: why this testcase have 2 output?
struct: it only has 1 output
Thorcode: nah 2
struct: ...
Thorcode: it is the third testcase
Thorcode: ah yeah only one but output 2
Thorcode: the ouput is 2
struct: because 2 messages can be created
Ocean_Arbeit: I'm doing the temperature one and all of them are good except for no temperature and only negatives
ZXC01: lol i got bit of problem on that too
Ocean_Arbeit: because the list is out of range
ZXC01: i ot only 93 percent
Thorcode: how can 2 message could be create in that
struct: HELL and HELLo
struct: HELLO*
Thorcode: ah
struct: you dont need to use all the dots
Thorcode: I understanded
Thorcode: thanks alot struct
Thorcode: understood
Ocean_Arbeit: how to see how many elements in a list
ZXC01: len(list)
Ocean_Arbeit: ok thanks
ZXC01: can anyone help me with great escape?
Wontonimo: what have you tried so far?
ZXC01: tried?
ZXC01: game or code?
Thorcode: he's on bronze haha
ZXC01: ...
Wontonimo: for great escape
Wontonimo: to get ahead
Thorcode: yep
ZXC01: hmm
ZXC01: i tried some code but all didnt work
ZXC01: so i delete them
Wontonimo: i'm looking at your replays and you don't even go to the opposite side
Wontonimo: do that
ZXC01: i mean that was when i use a hard code
ZXC01: where i just built wall for enemy to die
Wontonimo: okay, so now try
even turns : build wall
odd turns : move
ZXC01: .
Wontonimo: have you looked at replays of other better bots https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/great-escape/leaderboard?column=LEAGUE&value=bronze
ZXC01: yeah
Wontonimo: honestly, looking at the top bots, it looks like just moving straight to the other side is a winning strategy for bronze
Thorcode: bruh just make block to win?
struct: why dont you do it?
Thorcode: nah
Thorcode: I could not block all of the map
Thorcode: why
Thorcode: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a3fe51dc-7db7-4143-82fe-299b5bb1fce1
Thorcode: is this code is noobiest for tem?
Thorcode: than almost anyone could do that?
Ocean_Arbeit: how do i print debug
Wontonimo: print("debug")
struct: print("message", file=sys.stderr, flush=True)
Wontonimo: no, that prints "message" to stderr
Wontonimo: he wants to print "debug"
struct: he just skips words
Ocean_Arbeit: how do i log thors x and y
Ocean_Arbeit: on power of thor 1
ZXC01: log?
Ocean_Arbeit: in a variable
ZXC01: hmm istn that already x and y?
Ocean_Arbeit: it has the initial
ZXC01: idk then
ZXC01: but do you really need it?
TheUmgawa: Wait, are we trying to get Thor's current location? Because there's no handle for it. You have to compute it as you go.
Thorcode: wait whhat
Thorcode: what are you guy talking about
TheUmgawa: Sorry, I just noticed that I'm twenty minutes late on that.
ZXC01: lol
Thorcode: ah about the meo meo power
Thorcode: you don't need thor current much
ZXC01: i will give you a time machine <------]
ZXC01: more likely a gun
TheUmgawa: Well, you can do it one of two ways, where you can either calculate the path initially, or you can calculate the path from current position at any given point. So, I figured that's why the guy wanted it.
RickyPicky: .
RickyPicky: dis thing is confusing
UZUHAMA: You'll get better at it
RickyPicky: not at all
RickyPicky: kaboom.js is easy
RickyPicky: but then i tried javascript
RickyPicky: pain
UZUHAMA: Coding = P A I N
RickyPicky: absolutley
Considerably_Disagreeable: what if input is like "hello"
