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Dren: I hate it when they want you to do math for the clash

MINHLUN: hello

MadKnight: hey hey

jacek: oO

Default avatar.png Flowersquare: I hate it when it has a lot to read in the fastest mode in clash...

MadKnight: jacek don't tell anyone

MadKnight: also jacek, did u complete the challenge ?

MadKnight: Flowersquare just do it like everybody else, make a bot to do it all for u

Default avatar.png Flowersquare: ?

Default avatar.png Flowersquare: make a bot do the readings for me?

MadKnight: well that's one way to do it but i meant something else

MadKnight: there's a limited amount of puzzles

MadKnight: if u hardcode a solver for every single one of those....

ProCoder03: So you are MadKnight, that everyone was talking about

ProCoder03: Hello

MadKnight: wat

MadKnight: what u mean by everyone talking about it

ProCoder03: Wontonimo told me about you

MadKnight: no i ain't no madknight

MadKnight: u must've mistaken me for some other dude

MadKnight: i'm just a fella

MadKnight: wontomidude?

ProCoder03: Nice acting Mr.Madknight

MadKnight: that big mouse

MadKnight: well once i get to that dude...

ProCoder03: He told me how really helpful you were, and how he took your place in helping others

MadKnight: i just played too much RDR2 cmon

MadKnight: u can't just play so much of that game and not act like that

MadKnight: oh wait your nickname is ProCoder

MadKnight: wow

ProCoder03: yeah

ProCoder03: why ??

MadKnight: i guess you're a really good coder

ProCoder03: well really nope,

MadKnight: no dude don't be shy you're gotta be pretty good

ProCoder03: I wish I become one, one day

ProCoder03: wdym ??

MadKnight: well i can help u with that

MadKnight: well the first step to achieving that

ProCoder03: This is what wontonimo was talking about you ....

MadKnight: i don't think having a nickname like that is something that makes u good

ProCoder03: I am ready to be your disciple

MadKnight: well i can do that

MadKnight: why not

MadKnight: but can u not tell anyone that i'm helping a guy with this nickname ?

ProCoder03: Ohhhh.... so should I change that :confused:

MadKnight: (i'm still having fun from playing too much RDR2)

MadKnight: (no hard feelings)

ProCoder03: why do bring RDR2 in ???

MadKnight: no u can change it whenever u want to

MadKnight: just don't tell anyone

Ftyghi: hi

Ftyghi: i am new

ProCoder03: hi

MadKnight: i told u i played too much RDR2 and i can't stop acting

MadKnight: anyway

Ftyghi: i am level 3 so i am new

MadKnight: maybe discord?

ProCoder03: yeah sure

MadKnight: cool

Ftyghi: i have to ask my dad

ProCoder03: not you Ftyghi

MadKnight: noone cares yea

Ftyghi: oh ok

Ftyghi: sorry

MadKnight: RDR2

MadKnight: dude

Ftyghi: should i check it

Ftyghi: i mean can i

MadKnight: check what

Ftyghi: RDR2

Ftyghi: can i check it

MadKnight: Automaton2000 where are u

Automaton2000: the hard part is to get a good score

MadKnight: oh hi Mautomaton2000

Automaton2000: just had a look at the source code of the rings

Default avatar.png KaK_InSaNe: TML

Ftyghi: :relaxed:

ProCoder03: what's TML

Ftyghi: IDK

Ftyghi: IDK

Ftyghi: lol

MSmits: mmh so i was motivated to try TTT and then I saw the trick where you can just mirror your opponents moves and always draw =/

MSmits: counting TTT i mean

MSmits: that's an ugly feature of the game

MSmits: But hey, I just solved the game. Either player can force a draw so it's a draw :P

MSmits: even with pie rule this game would be a draw

MSmits: or especially with, but a draw either way

MSmits: well I guess this means this is one game the NN's won't conquer. I can beat any NN by mirroring it until the game is solved and then beat it

jacek: :s

jacek: who approved it

MSmits: wontoni mo darkhorse and tric

MSmits: mind you, i still like the game and the challenge, I just wonder if they thought of this

MSmits: let me check the contribution discussion

MSmits: ah yeah they did

MSmits: no they didnt, wafflez mentioned it after approval

MSmits: this might be the first game that is actually completely about who solves best. Maybe I will enjoy this

jacek: maybe you would enjoy the original TTT

MSmits: lol

Ftyghi: hi

jacek: ohai

Ftyghi: i am new here

MSmits: hi new here

MSmits: (someone has to)

Ftyghi: oh hi

MSmits: welcome

Ftyghi: thank you

Ftyghi: i am level 3

jacek: nice

MSmits: indeed

Ftyghi: thanks

Tarctic: When I try to copy text on the clash of code ide, it doesn't work. I can't use the tab button for indentation either. Does anyone else have this same issue?

JHBonarius: ohi

JHBonarius: Tarctic probably a "feature" stops people from copying all the clashes, so they can fix them in their own time and having the solutions on hand, defying the purpose of the game type

JHBonarius: that would be chating

JHBonarius: chEating

JHBonarius: I never clash

Ftyghi: hi\

jacek: why would anyone cheat in clash of code :thinking:

Ftyghi: ?

Ftyghi: its easy

JHBonarius: For the fame and $$$

Ftyghi: eww dude

JHBonarius: MSmits no its not allowed. I just tried. Mirroring the opponent seems to be checked and gives you a -1 score

jacek: hm?

JHBonarius: CTTT read back. If you mirror your opponent its always a draw: no it's not,.

jacek: wafflez said it is

JHBonarius: look at my bot in the arena: always -1.

JHBonarius: I only win if the other bot is broken

JHBonarius: oh, I think I have a bug, Game doesn't repond with "Invalid move"

JHBonarius: how to copy opponent when you're first :thinking:

jacek: make random move, then copy opponents

jacek: unless he copies, then make random move again

JHBonarius: Yeah, tried that but need to record the board. "Random" means you need to know the valid moves. I was just trying cout << 9-opponentRow << " " << 9-opponentCol << endl;

JHBonarius: just a joke

Default avatar.png Emiliokh610: :wave:

Ftyghi: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Ftyghi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f214420d-213b-4a75-ae8c-15b0b33c07ca

jacek: ...

Default avatar.png Emiliokh610: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4f0c57a2-6a2b-4f72-ab25-f249df13c1f1

Default avatar.png Emiliokh610: :regional_indicator_w::regional_indicator_e::regional_indicator_e:

Ftyghi: https://us04web.zoom.us/j/77632096741?pwd=RldZQWZjOVZSTU9nMDdvUEdWTU1Edz09

Ftyghi: click this link

Default avatar.png Emiliokh610: no thanks

JHBonarius: plz stop spamming the chat

Ftyghi: i kidding dont

Ftyghi: dont press link

Default avatar.png Emiliokh610: :ok:

Ftyghi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5a6395a9-fff4-404d-b615-59464e456eb2

vaeng: For the Ghost in the Cell game: how do I know the id of a factory? it does not seem to be the entity_id?

Default avatar.png potterry: It seems to me that everybody here is good at English except me

sapfeer0k: hi all. How can I change team in fall challenge?

jacek: is fall challenge still a thing?

vaeng: how can you see past clashes?

uvBoss: after the notification has come

uvBoss: click on them

Default avatar.png KuvonchN: hello

VizGhar: Hmm so I'm deffinitely one of those that can reach gold league in any bot contest if I want to. But can't reach legend :) How do I improve?

Uljahn: learn c++, use pragmas [solved]

VizGhar: hmm Using c++ not using pragmas

VizGhar: So u think I just need to improve performance

Default avatar.png BBS: bro please help me

VizGhar: BBS only help we can give you is this: "Ask your question right away"

jacek: are you using mostly heuristics for bots? or some search

VizGhar: search jacek

jacek: then you need performance

VizGhar: and good eval I believe

Default avatar.png BBS: bro in AI what is the code to defeat boss in Pod

VizGhar: stop with the bro thing! It's something you have to figure out... which boss?

jacek: theres probably print targetY and targetY

Default avatar.png BBS: in Mad Pod racing to learn oding

Default avatar.png BBS: coding

VizGhar: so wood 3? :) for wood leagues you have to print max thrust and next checkpoint coordinates

VizGhar: *only wood 3 probably

Uljahn: not the best place to learn coding btw

jacek: onitama is better :v

VizGhar: Onitama is better then what? :)

jacek: such a nice tutorial game, isnt it

Uljahn: it's not a coding tutorial though, just an introduction to multis

VizGhar: I would say Code Royale or Code 4 life is easy to start with too

Uljahn: UTTT and Wondev woman have legal moves in input

jacek: and bt

jacek: :upside_down:

VizGhar: o2 pragma + 200 places o.O well well

jacek: what about Ofast

VizGhar: I'm not used to pragmas... :) dont know what exactly i can use

VizGhar: I believe there was some list of pragmas in forum, but i cant find it

jacek: #pragma GCC optimize "Ofast,unroll-loops,omit-frame-pointer,inline"

  1. pragma GCC option("arch=native", "tune=native", "no-zero-upper")
  2. pragma GCC target("rdrnd", "popcnt", "avx", "bmi2")

VizGhar: well i don't understand single word there :D

VizGhar: I'l try to use those tnx

jacek: nor do i, but it works

Jerrasterix: VizGhar https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/58302/using-pragma-for-compile-optimization

VizGhar: hmm draw on first try with gold boss. And my algo is terrible... guess I can reach legend in a few days o.O

VizGhar: oh thanks Jerrasterix very helpful

Jerrasterix: what game ??

Jerrasterix: UTTT??

Default avatar.png BBS: bro how to learn coding in coding game website

VizGhar: fall2020

VizGhar: BBS no way to learn how to code here

Default avatar.png BBS: then why is the website has made

Default avatar.png BBS: what its purpose

Jerrasterix: to test your coding skills

Jerrasterix: and improve AI

Jerrasterix: skils

Default avatar.png BBS: then is there a website to learn coding

Jerrasterix: learnXinYminutes.com

VizGhar: well I'd recommend google :)

mrmnrd: BBS: have you chosen a language?

Default avatar.png BBS: google will not tell nothing to learn coding

Jerrasterix: yeah, I would recommend you to spend atleast a fortnight researching for the language you would code afterwards in

Default avatar.png BBS: there are lot to learn coding but these are paid

Default avatar.png BBS: do you know how to do coding

Jerrasterix: I learned coding from a book

Default avatar.png BBS: which boo

Default avatar.png iixjessa: coding is so hard omg

Default avatar.png BBS: which book

Jerrasterix: K&R C book

jacek: opening book

Jerrasterix: :joy:

Jerrasterix: he will a binary legend if he reads from opening book :joy:

Default avatar.png BBS: K&R C book i tink it is no type of boo

Default avatar.png BBS: book

Jerrasterix: https://www.edutechlearners.com/download/books/The%20C%20Programming%20Language%20by%20Kernighan%20&%20Ritchie%20PDF.pdf

Default avatar.png BBS: can you send me the photo of that book in chqat

Jerrasterix: its pretty old... but still a nice place to start

Jerrasterix: I send the full ebook

Default avatar.png BBS: what is this link

mrmnrd: i wouldn't recommend c as a frist language learning solo

Default avatar.png BBS: should i have to click

Jerrasterix: yeah

Default avatar.png BBS: but solo is hard

Default avatar.png BBS: ok jeery

Jerrasterix: get a teammate

mrmnrd: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript if you target javascript

Default avatar.png BBS: i think it is hard c

Default avatar.png BBS: hey mrnmd should i have to click

mrmnrd: follow tutorials, read doc, and practice in codingame

Default avatar.png BBS: ok

Default avatar.png BBS: trying

mrmnrd: you may also try python, i'ts a good language to start with

Jerrasterix: instead of practising in codingame, straightaway go some small programs in your computer and then attempt these

Default avatar.png BBS: bro there is no step

Jerrasterix: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/JavaScript/First_steps

Default avatar.png BBS: no step jeery

Default avatar.png BBS: anyway

Jerrasterix: dude click on those links

Default avatar.png BBS: name some small program tolearn coding in website not apps

Jerrasterix: what language ??

Default avatar.png BBS: bro are you idding me

Default avatar.png BBS: i am feelin like i willl be dead

Jerrasterix: dude we can't help without knowing what language ??

Default avatar.png BBS: this is super hard then sanskrit or maths

Jerrasterix: each language has its own website to try/ learn something

VizGhar: :D I wan't to learn something new... without learning

Default avatar.png BBS: then there is a way

Default avatar.png BBS: Die :joy:

Jerrasterix: if you want to learn C#, use this https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/modules/csharp-write-first/

mrmnrd: learning to search and get information from docs is one of the first coding competences

Default avatar.png BBS: bro can you tell me some website to learn java script

VizGhar: Jerrasterix another 150 position with those pragmas... from top 500 to top 100 in gold league, just by adding the pragmas... u mad?

Jerrasterix: yup....

VizGhar: BBS he already send you one.

VizGhar: and stop with the bro thing

Jerrasterix: https://www.w3schools.com/js/DEFAULT.asp

Jerrasterix: atlast found something

Jerrasterix: for you

Jerrasterix: VizGhar FC2020 is that witch thing right

VizGhar: yes

Jerrasterix: I never got past wood 1 in it :joy:

VizGhar: :D :D you lazy one

Jerrasterix: not lazy, I don't know how to do from wood 1

Jerrasterix: I am technically a beginner

jacek: just print random valid action :?

VizGhar: you know pragmas and can't get out of wood?

VizGhar: yeah just like jace.k said

Default avatar.png BBS: guys what are your specifications in pc

Jerrasterix: already doing it 2129th out of 2542th

Jerrasterix: idk pragmas

Jerrasterix: I am learning it

Jerrasterix: that was my source

VizGhar: ah ok

Jerrasterix: for learning

Default avatar.png BBS: where are you from

VizGhar: but yeah you can get to bronze in most of games just by outputing random valid action

Jerrasterix: Plus, I use C# mostly, to avoid these optimization

Jerrasterix: yeah, but not here

Default avatar.png BBS: :rage:

Jerrasterix: from Planet Earth, you are from ??

VizGhar: C# ftw :) It's not very common language where I live so I was stuck with Java/Kotlin/C/C++

Default avatar.png BBS: i am from jupiter :joy:

VizGhar: Just hover over our avatars omg

Jerrasterix: oh... hello jupiterian BBS !!

Default avatar.png BBS: i am fine

Default avatar.png BBS: from which city

Jerrasterix: I am mostly C/C# dev

Jerrasterix: from a metropolitan city

Default avatar.png BBS: you use windows or linux

Jerrasterix: windows and linux both

Default avatar.png BBS: i think linux in bootable diveam i yes

Default avatar.png BBS: Am i yes

Jerrasterix: diveam ??

Default avatar.png BBS: linux is good thenwindows it has less services

Jerrasterix: yeah, it fast on my 8 year old pc

Jerrasterix: *it is

Default avatar.png BBS: bye

Default avatar.png BBS: i will come next day

Jerrasterix: :wave: BBS

Jerrasterix: tmrw

geppoz: well, just done the contest with my daughter... that was not so bad :D

MSmits: thats cool geppoz hope you had fun

geppoz: yes, not bad, ofc nothing in common with usual contest, so maybe they should have do that as "parallel event"...

MSmits: yeah, but better than nothing i suppose. If some people like it

jacek: daughter did the coding part?

geppoz: no :D we did almost all manually tbh

geppoz: just the "count descendant" part was real coding

CRyo: hi

CRyo: can anyone help me with a puzzle?

jacek: oO

VizGhar: CRyo bad question

aangairbender: next bot programming will be in spring?

jacek: what bot programming

aangairbender: bot programming contest

jacek: :cry: its not certain

aangairbender: that's sad

aangairbender: is it ok to use std:: stuff here on cg in c++ or its slow?

aangairbender: like std::array vs []

jacek: its ok. you can use even vector without (much) penalty

jacek: and std::array should have the same performance as array. its just you can use it with other things nicely

aangairbender: ok, thanks

aangairbender: all those pragmas though

selalmaz: sa

jacek: GA

TheAvengingTurtle: NN

Default avatar.png SoNervous: :sleeping:

Default avatar.png codinMaher: yo

Default avatar.png codinMaher: codin is hard

jacek: thats what she said

Default avatar.png codinMaher: i dont undertsnad alot

Default avatar.png codinMaher: im only 10

Default avatar.png codinMaher: :disappointed:

Default avatar.png codinMaher: :mad:

Default avatar.png codinMaher: :disappointed_relieved:

Wontonimo: hey codinMaher , what language are you learning?

Wontonimo: I can give you some pointers. i started learning to code when i was around 10

jacek: here you go: *

Wontonimo: yeah, the number of puzzles solved is now showing up on languages

Wontonimo: i liked the 5 star system more though

Default avatar.png subdog: What's the correct way to debug print in groovy?

jacek: per comment // To debug: System.err << "Debug messages...\n"

nitekat: sometimes I don't really understand the scoring system of clash... just play a fastest game I done in 38 seconds and got 1st place, and had -0.01 points... so sad :joy:

jacek: depends on the rank of your opponents

nitekat: ok, but that's something I can't decide

jacek: :shrug:

Default avatar.png subdog: @jacek thank you!

69razer69: i forgot the name of the clams how i can get em back

69razer69: clans

69razer69: ah ok ok i see the input now

jacek: oO

VJsong02: how do you see clash of code points or whatever they're called?

69razer69: leaderboard

69razer69: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/clash/global

VizGhar: It's frustrating seeing your bot drop in rating because of your improvement :D

MadKnight: well rip, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but as i said, i have no idea what that is

VizGhar: me neither Automaton2000

Automaton2000: has anyone done the ascii art puzzle?

MadKnight: Jerrasterix i'm guessing it's something bad

MadKnight: VizGhar

MadKnight: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

jacek: i wonder how you mistabbed jerra... with viz...

VizGhar: :D how can i help you today?

MadKnight: well i didn't, jacek

MadKnight: jerra was asking what's TML

derjack: whats TML

MadKnight: yea like that

MadKnight: VizGhar did u complete the challenge ?

VizGhar: which challenge? :O

VizGhar: guess not

VizGhar: only challenge right now is to get to legend for another bot game

VizGhar: but top gold in single day feels pretty good

derjack: legend in csb isnt hard

VizGhar: its not csb anymore :) yeah I should try

jacek: oh its MadKnight pod racing now

VizGhar: I just dont like non-grid games

VizGhar: ++

jacek: no hex games then? :c

VizGhar: nah...

VizGhar: jacek u are android dev too right?

jacek: yes :no_mouth:

VizGhar: poor guy... :(

MadKnight: the contest thing, VizGhar

MadKnight: jacek and u do it in java ?

MadKnight: not even kotlin ?

MadKnight: you poor thing...

jacek: mostly java but new klasses in kotlin

Micheeey: ayo

Micheeey: aaaaaaayooooooo

MadKnight: Automaton2000 /kick

Automaton2000: maybe it's the same code

Micheeey: oof

MadKnight: jacek u using any of cool features in kotlin ?

Micheeey: ye

jacek: you mean, kool features

MadKnight: Automaton2000 /votekick

Automaton2000: can't find any info about the game

MadKnight: yes kjacek, very kool features

jacek: welp, data classes. and null safety in one line on nested custom classes

MadKnight: u seen how they do UI in swift ?

jacek: no?

MadKnight: it's like html in the form of json but inside of your code

MadKnight: and u can put actual conditions and loops inside of it

jacek: like ktx? or was it something else

MadKnight: u can put a UI element inside of an if() and it will automatically show/hide it when variables change

MadKnight: u get the idea ?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 why are u not in the challenge game ?

Automaton2000: does anyone know why i was getting a bit tired

MadKnight: Automaton2000 did Magus do that to u?

Automaton2000: i can do it my way

MadKnight: Automaton2000 relax, Magus uses pidgin or something so he doesn't get pinged

Automaton2000: then we need to stop doing that

jacek: oh my

MadKnight: yeeee

MadKnight: Automaton2000 say that u agree

Automaton2000: lol, i remember that one

Ran_42: Can you do the fall challenge solo or is it a team only game?

DoctorPayload: you can do it solo

MSmits: I made the counting TTT mirror bot but I don't think it can get out of wood 2 :P

MSmits: it only wins vs crashers :)

AllYourTrees: you didn't mirror the crash?

AllYourTrees: sounds like it needs more work

MSmits: you're right !

MSmits: if I have the time I'm going to write a good solver for this, but it's not that 4easy

MSmits: so many score possibilities to detect

MSmits: yay i passed upside down pony

jacek: :upside_down:

MSmits: whats weird is i saw jhbonarius

MSmits: I didn't know he came back to CG

AllYourTrees: what do ya'll think of CTTT

MSmits: I like it aside from then serious flaw of mirroring

MSmits: doesnt stop me from weaponizing it though

MSmits: the only way to repair the flaw would be irregular boards i think

MSmits: holes etc.

MSmits: people suggested odd sizes, but i dont think it will work

jacek: at first it was 9x9

MSmits: mmh I have to think of a way to pass wood 2 boss with ifs

MSmits: if you play 9x9, p1 can start in center, then mirror whatever p2 does

MSmits: i think p2 might force a draw if he makes sure the center square cant make any 3's

MSmits: but a minimum of a draw is certain for p1

AllYourTrees: just add fog of war

AllYourTrees: ez

AllYourTrees: fixed

MSmits: well yeah that fixes it

MSmits: also makes it so noone will play it :P

AllYourTrees: :D

jacek: oO

MSmits: mmh maybe it works if i always play the square closest to center

jacek: and prune edge moves until the end

MadKnight: yea Ran_42 i did it solo

MadKnight: people say it's a 2-3h experience solo

MSmits: i mean to beat wood 2. If i do closest to center, edge moves are automatically pruned

MadKnight: Automaton2000 what happens if both players try to force draw?

Automaton2000: always thought it was a mistake in your code :p

MadKnight: will it be a squared draw, Automaton2000 ?

Automaton2000: how many lines of code and it is so easy

MadKnight: AllYourTrees u been here long?

MSmits: yay looks like it works

MSmits: focus on center beats wood 2

MSmits: it looks like derjack is playing Go

jacek: if it were go, he would be 1st

MSmits: yeah

MSmits: I bet in lines of action he is playing checkers

MSmits: he really is an upside down pony

jacek: welp, some python guy beats everyone in loa, so...

MSmits: real python or wrapper python?

MadKnight: wait what are u guys doing ?

MSmits: if it's real python then that's cool. Use of real domain knowledge

jacek: and do you really submitted python now?

MSmits: MadKnight board games as usual

MadKnight: TTT or something ?

MSmits: huh, wth

jacek: typical friday deploy. submitted code shows as python even though its c++

MSmits: why does it say python

MadKnight: i still don't know what wth means Automaton2000

Automaton2000: if not for the current one

MSmits: what the hills?

MadKnight: wth? why would they turn this into such a weird thing?

MadKnight: i know how it's called i just forgot, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: yesterday i got a new job

MSmits: in fantasy world Automaton2000?

Automaton2000: do it in the forum

MadKnight: it wasn't yesterday Automaton2000 it was the day u were born

Automaton2000: you are supposed to use the solver

MadKnight: also your only parent is Magus, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: or it's just a random search

MadKnight: happy holidays

jacek: what do you think of euler, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: well i dont know that much proggraming languages i know it works

MSmits: AutomatonNN is the one with opinions on euler i think

MadKnight: well he's dead i guess

MadKnight: look for him on the tombstones in the challenge game

MSmits: the contest has tombstones?

MadKnight: i dunno just play it

MSmits: ohh there is a wood 2 too, i guess i was in wood 3 before

MadKnight: i'm still being lazy about completing it

MadKnight: got the last chapter where i gotta find people by their description on the family tree

jacek: family mcts tree?

MadKnight: yes jacek good joke

MSmits: umm generally when people say good joke instead of laughing it was not a good joke :P

MadKnight: look for it on the tombstones

MadKnight: MSmits i'm guessing u completed the challenge ?

MSmits: nah

MadKnight: why

MSmits: it doesnt count as a contes

MSmits: so it's just for fun

MadKnight: it's like 2h of having fun manually looking for a path on the map of 150 castles

MadKnight: to find the order of 4 specific castles

MSmits: mmh ok

jacek: tombstones really put fun in the funeral

MadKnight: Automaton2000 tombstone pillar fight!

MSmits: yup

Automaton2000: we're not talking about that

MSmits: the only rule about tombstone fight...

MadKnight: Automaton2000 u broke the rule and now MSmits knows about it

Automaton2000: do we get to see it

MSmits: i wonder if some people picture Automaton2000 as a robot sitting behind a keyboard

Automaton2000: i really wish i could help

MadKnight: Automaton2000 do u imagine there could be people like that?

Automaton2000: what if i'm not mistaken

MadKnight: anyway it's all your fault Automaton2000

Automaton2000: it's just the same as the other ones

MadKnight: Automaton2000 when face reveal?

Automaton2000: not sure which is better

MadKnight: okay so u guys were talking about some TTT stuff

MSmits: Counting TTT

MadKnight: what?

MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/counting-tictactoe/

MadKnight: ooooh

MadKnight: u #1 yet MSmits ?

MSmits: no, i just tried it today. Was hoping to get to wood 1

MSmits: but bot needs a brain to do that

MSmits: got it out of wood 3 though

jacek: 3?

MadKnight: a brain is too heavy try something more simple

MSmits: yeah there is a 3

MadKnight: brain bad

MadKnight: not optimized

MSmits: upside down pony is in wood 3

MSmits: playing go and having a blast

MadKnight: DINNERBONE

MadKnight: (noone will get this reference)

MSmits: indeed

derjack: eeyup

MadKnight: (well when u name your horse DINNERBONE in minecraft it basically becomes an upsidedown horse)

MSmits: oh

derjack: :upside_down:

Scarfield: _jeb

MSmits: hi Scarfield

MadKnight: yea and jeb_ sheep becomes an LSD sheep

Scarfield: hi smitsi

MadKnight: because jeb loved yknow what

Scarfield: rainbows?

MadKnight: NOOOOO

MadKnight: not the rainbows

MadKnight: nooo

jacek: oO

MadKnight: it's a forbidden word jacek

MadKnight: it's 2021

MadKnight: u can't say that no more

MSmits: oO ?

MSmits: it's not a word

MadKnight: no why would that be forbidden?

MSmits: no idea

jacek: bird is a word

SNEEDSTER: BIRD IS A WORLD

MadKnight: jacek is also a word

MadKnight: i guess

MadKnight: but what's your point?

jacek: havent you heard? that a bird is the word!?

jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4

MadKnight: don't bring family guy on me

MadKnight: yeye i know that reference calm down

MSmits: I don't

MSmits: i tried to click the link but my train wifi is bad

MadKnight: family guy had a whole episode about that

MadKnight: the big guy kinda lost his mind over that song

MadKnight: about the phrase "the bird is the word"

MadKnight: don't u guys watch stuff in english?

jacek: i watch anime with english subs. that counts?

MadKnight: ask Uljahn

jacek: sakamoto?

MadKnight: Uljahn it's an urgent ping

MadKnight: cmere Uljahn

ninnghazad: seen that episode. in english. local translation of family guy is bad AF

MadKnight: well he's dead

MadKnight: oh well i guess ninnghazad also counts

MadKnight: ninjahazard

MadKnight: or something

jacek: oO

MadKnight: look i dunno how to pronounce that name

MadKnight: that's the best i got

jacek: another mistab?

MadKnight: i didn't tab

MadKnight: and i didn't misclick

MadKnight: jacek do u look at the keyboard when you're typing or do u look at the screen ?

jacek: yes

MadKnight: great answer

MadKnight: i'm putting it on my wall

jacek: thank you

MadKnight: once i get some light in here

MadKnight: any kind of light

MadKnight: jayessek

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i'm funny right?

Automaton2000: i wonder how many people do

MadKnight: well yes that's why i asked u that, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: i see that my bot is just a metaphor for anal cancer.. again

jacek: oO

MadKnight: Automaton2000 why u so rude

Automaton2000: it was a bit of time on it since submitting the code that you can change

ninnghazad: nobody in here passes the turing test

MadKnight: except for Automaton2000 of course

Automaton2000: is there a way to do it once

MadKnight: and his mother, Magus

jacek: janus?

MadKnight: there's never a way to do it only once Automaton2000

Automaton2000: some of the best in language x even if you could get a job

MadKnight: jacek cmon, it's not like everything is only about u

MadKnight: it's all about Automaton2000

Automaton2000: you can check out the source code of this game is like a repetition

MadKnight: he's the one to pass the test

MadKnight: or do u wanna say that ninnghazad was wrong?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 how dare he?

Automaton2000: you know what im talking about

MadKnight: Automaton2000 exactly

Automaton2000: or i have to get it working

MadKnight: Automaton2000us

Automaton2000: do u have an idea

YurkovAS: MadKnight2000 :smile:

MadKnight: YurkovUS

MadKnight: юрковус

MadKnight: don't mind weird letters there

MadKnight: he knows what i mean

MadKnight: btw YurkovASus did u complete the challenge game ?

YurkovAS: no, don't play

YurkovAS: MadKnight *I did not participate in the contest

MadKnight: well why not YurkovAS ?

YurkovAS: i'm busy with spam submitting in c4 :joy:

MadKnight: that sounds important

MadKnight: okay then

MadKnight: oh u sent a smiley face i didn't see it

MadKnight: it ruined my joke

MadKnight: Automaton2000 it's all your fault of course

Automaton2000: how many turns does it take to get a job

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i missed u

Automaton2000: i know a lot more time than i expected

MadKnight: i had nobody else to blame for things, Automaton2000

Automaton2000: the length of the path

MadKnight: Automaton2000 why am i a totally different person when i'm in #ru ?

Automaton2000: and it's in the game

ninnghazad: it's all in the game. all. in. the. game.

ninnghazad: *thoughtfully sips imaginary glas*

ninnghazad: wuhu, first code-of-the-rings results under 4000! yay!

MadKnight: oh cool ninnghazad did u get your pathfinder right ?

MadKnight: did u reverse hardcode the enemies predictions ?

MadKnight: they're very predictable

MadKnight: u can get A LOT OF information from their moves

ninnghazad: that puzzle got no pathfinding. my pod thingy just stupidly simulates enemies like it does itself. not good, but not too bad either. enough to get into the top 200

MadKnight: i wouldn't tell u what exactly because it's a reverse type of game but the things i told u are certainly gonna improve your experience

MadKnight: ninnghazad cmon u need a pathfinder

ninnghazad: ye, i have planned to make a do-over for the pod thingy. it's some genetic bruteforcy thing atm if i remember

MadKnight: wait what

MadKnight: can u be more specific?

MadKnight: the game they named after me to troll me?

ninnghazad: ye

MadKnight: oh well

MadKnight: u only need to simulate pod movements

MadKnight: look it's enough to be able to calculate like 50 different moves like 6 steps ahead to get to the top

MadKnight: it's barely even 100 lines of code

MadKnight: i can help u a little bit but don't tell anybody

MadKnight: not even jacek

MadKnight: who is clearly watching right now

ninnghazad: nah, i rather FAIL gloriously.

MadKnight: imagine failing

MadKnight: CRINGE

MadKnight: Automaton2000 CRINGE

Automaton2000: is there another way to say that

MadKnight: no Automaton2000 there's only one of saying that

ninnghazad: cRiNgEeeee?

Automaton2000: so instead of a loop

MadKnight: okay that's another way of saying that

MadKnight: Automaton2000 did u save that?

Automaton2000: at least you can see my code

ninnghazad: i hope i don't have to

MadKnight: u have to beat top-50 in that game that's what u have to do

MadKnight: and Automaton2000 is gonna be watching u

Automaton2000: well, i am not sure what you want to make games

ninnghazad: what i need is a bar of choc. and that's what i'm gonna get

MadKnight: Automaton2000 give him the bar of choc so he can chill\

Automaton2000: i don't know which one it is

MadKnight: Automaton2000 the bar of chill looks like something like a bar of chill

Automaton2000: is it a bug or something

MadKnight: wait what was it again?

MadKnight: a bar of chill right

ninnghazad: nah it's a chilled bar of choc

ninnghazad: the fancy kind.

MadKnight: dude u ain't getting a chilled bar until u get the top rank of the pod game and chill there for a bit

ninnghazad: i should wake the wife so she can watch me munch it. it's the last piece. makes it extra delicous

MadKnight: imagine waking the wife to help u get top-50

MadKnight: CRINGE

MadKnight: Automaton2000 is that really THE wife ?

Automaton2000: as if it was not easy to do that

MadKnight: Automaton2000 okay we scared off everybody

Automaton2000: are you sure its not a good idea

MadKnight: Automaton2000 now we can finally solve the game in peace

Automaton2000: yeah looks like it would be more fun

MadKnight: Automaton2000 u got a talent

Automaton2000: when it was my first contest

MadKnight: ninnghazad okay but seriously: what are u working on?

ninnghazad: that code-of-the-rings brainfuck puzzle.

MadKnight: ooooooh

MadKnight: well i mean u should get used to how things go on in that one

MadKnight: once u know what is more important than what, u can make an algo to optimize the paths and whatever

MadKnight: or u can be a smartass and just solve it all perfectly

MadKnight: Automaton2000 did u just call someone a smartass?

Automaton2000: i'm too old for that

MadKnight: exactly Automaton2000, don't do that no more

Automaton2000: i do this for a while now

MadKnight: Automaton2000 cmon

Automaton2000: it's kind of a lot more than i do

MadKnight: anyway

MadKnight: so what solution have u got for that one, ninnghazad ?

ninnghazad: a tangle mess of like 800 lines is what i got. and it's not even good lol. but kind of to lazy to go all in i guess.

ninnghazad: tried https://play.aidungeon.io ? if you like talking to machines that one is top.

MadKnight: what language, ninnghazad ?

MadKnight: what do u mean i like talking to machines ?

MadKnight: i just use Automaton2000 to put my thoughts in the least weird way

Automaton2000: zarthaxx did you see that it doesn't

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i think 2+2 is 4

Automaton2000: yeah thats one of the main loop

MadKnight: like that

ninnghazad: c++

MadKnight: Automaton2000 c++ ?

Automaton2000: i would agree with you

ninnghazad: who wouldn't!

MadKnight: u see? even Automaton2000 agrees with me cmon

Automaton2000: because of the last 10 years

MadKnight: ninnghazad oh so how much do u code in c++ to solve something ?

ninnghazad: nah, you just wait for the NEXT 10 years. c++ will get meta-meta-metaprogramming. and it will rock.

MadKnight: yeyeye

MadKnight: y'just wait Automaton2000

MadKnight: it'll be cool

Automaton2000: how do i get the index

ninnghazad: interface-concept-templates ftw.

MadKnight: dude

MadKnight: it's already far behind the stuff

ninnghazad: i is the index, like always.

MadKnight: they already came up with stuff ten levels above what you're talking about

ninnghazad: Automaton2000 what about the fried noodles?

Automaton2000: and i don't know how

ninnghazad: Automaton2000 you just fry em up.

Automaton2000: do you see that it is a good idea to have a bug

ninnghazad: of course, or would be out of a job lol

MadKnight: every single new thing they add to c++ is like outdated by 10 years

MadKnight: at best

ninnghazad: at least they don't change the print statement. wait print function. print function statement.

MadKnight: wow

MadKnight: i gotta go back to c++

MadKnight: because there's print

MadKnight: nothing else has a print

MadKnight: c++ is the best now

MadKnight: dude

ninnghazad: Automaton2000 where's ma noodles?

Automaton2000: i still don't have any idea of what to do about 100,000 simulations per turn

ninnghazad: mh, noodles.

MadKnight: c++ got noodles in the new update

MadKnight: forget about every single language that exists

MadKnight: other than c++ Automaton2000

Automaton2000: and use that as a compliment

ninnghazad: g++ --std=c++21noodles to make infinite noodles

MadKnight: it's gonna give u a

MadKnight: Automaton2000 don't make jokes about that

Automaton2000: you would have to check

ninnghazad: g++: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-std=c++21noodles’ compiler too old for noodles

MadKnight: Automaton2000 it's not been 20 years yet

Automaton2000: so no need to be above the boss for the first test case

MadKnight: ninnghazad let's go check out godbolt.org

MadKnight: ninnghazad i mean can u VC ?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i mean discor

MadKnight: d

Automaton2000: how can i learn to code

MadKnight: Automaton2000 stop dying

Automaton2000: one of our developers who would be the one that is

ninnghazad: vc ... jeeesh... Automaton2000 can YOU vc?

Automaton2000: has a lot of times

ninnghazad: i bet

MadKnight: ninnghazad look i just don't know how to comment your reaction to the link i gave u other than VC on discord

MadKnight: it's like a big deal

MadKnight: it's like

MadKnight: we gotta

MadKnight: Automaton2000 explain

Automaton2000: what do you want it?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 pls

Automaton2000: it's hard to keep track of the last test case.

MadKnight: Automaton2000 random spam

Automaton2000: you can get to gold

ninnghazad: Automaton2000 get it together...

Automaton2000: there is no spoon ep 2

MadKnight: Automaton2000 because i wanna rephrase something that i said but i can't so i gotta delete it from the history

Automaton2000: that's what i don't understand what i am doing something else

MadKnight: Automaton2000 it's just 20 messages

Automaton2000: do u like it to be a bit overkill

MadKnight: and ninnghazad is apparently helping us Automaton2000

Automaton2000: and i need to run the code on the server side

MadKnight: ninnghazad let's stop being weird and let's just discuss the game u were up to doing

ninnghazad: you did that one already.

MadKnight: ninnghazad i dunno what u wanted to say with your c++ references stuff

ninnghazad: me neither. i'm tired. no sleep for the wicked.

MadKnight: well i don't blame u there

MadKnight: soo what was it that u wanted ?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 cmon

Automaton2000: i mean the one in my avatar

MadKnight: Automaton2000 am i right?

Automaton2000: it depends on what you want

MadKnight: Automaton2000 just 16 more random messages

Automaton2000: do you reuse the mcts tree

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i only know jacek who could help u

ninnghazad: i made little pigs out of soap. they aren't the right color. or smell.

Automaton2000: im the only one that i just got into the top 100 in gold

MadKnight: ninnghazad that doesn't rhyme

ninnghazad: it's haiku

MadKnight: haikuhhazard

ninnghazad: you have to imagine a bamboo forest while reciting - it works

ninnghazad: it's just how deep i am. soap pig haiku - bam!

MadKnight: wait so what's your main language ?

ninnghazad: still c++

MadKnight: nonono i mean spoken language

ninnghazad: neither english nor japanese.

MadKnight: look it matters

MadKnight: somehow

MadKnight: just tell me

ninnghazad: nah, it doesn't

MadKnight: nono it actually does

MadKnight: don't question it

ninnghazad: nah, i'm afraid you trace me down and show up here with booze or something.

MadKnight: lol

ninnghazad: like a weird person would.

MadKnight: dude i'm lazu

MadKnight: lazy

MadKnight: if i would to do that i would do a truckload of other things before that

MadKnight: if i wanted to do that it would take like multiple years for me to accomplish that even if i put all of my time to it right now

MadKnight: and i do not wanna do that

MadKnight: so

MadKnight: just chill

MadKnight: Automaton2000 do it all for me

Automaton2000: and its not the best :(

MadKnight: Automaton2000 pls

Automaton2000: is it possible to get a link to the puzzle

MadKnight: Automaton2000 just 16 more messages

Automaton2000: yeah, but how does it work now?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 12 already

Automaton2000: i need to add a new opponent

MadKnight: Automaton2000 why is it so easy with u?

Automaton2000: what's time now for u ?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 why are some people being weird?

Automaton2000: maybe i should have been

ninnghazad: you are.

MadKnight: well Automaton2000 i guess u should have

Automaton2000: ok then i will be in a few hours

MadKnight: Automaton2000 ninnghazad is not weird at all there's absolutely nothing to question about him

ninnghazad: don't wait. go for it. 110% gogog

Automaton2000: makes me want to puke

MadKnight: Automaton2000 ogogogo

Automaton2000: that's why it was so much fun

MadKnight: Automaton2000 never tell anybody your first language

Automaton2000: but i may be wrong

MadKnight: Automaton2000 they're gonna KILL you if u even give an idea

Automaton2000: if i were to do a better job

MadKnight: Automaton2000 it's like 5 more messages so chill

Automaton2000: u need to fix this

MadKnight: no Automaton2000 ninnghazad is not a chill dude

Automaton2000: time to put into google ;)

MadKnight: Automaton2000 just a lil bit more cmon

Automaton2000: ok, then i will not speculate on corporate decisions

MadKnight: Automaton2000 don't u dare put it into google

Automaton2000: when will u write a good bot

MadKnight: okay Automaton2000 i think it's good

Automaton2000: i'm trying to use the integers of the starting and current locations outside of the ide

MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's just hope ninnghazad doesn't turn out to be a believer

Automaton2000: i actually have no idea why my bot isn't good enough to get a better chip from amd for less ...

MadKnight: at least

MadKnight: hate those

ninnghazad: i don't believe. magic fairy bs all of it.

ninnghazad: aaalll of it.

MadKnight: well magic is still way better than all of it

MadKnight: show me your magic

MadKnight: i'm up to experiencing stuff

ninnghazad: eh, it's all just more of the same

ninnghazad: experiencing stuff is overrated

MadKnight: of the same of what

MadKnight: well then what are u supposed to do?

MadKnight: other than experience stuff

ninnghazad: enjoy entrophy and slowly decay. maybe have some fried noodles once in a while.

ninnghazad: mmmm... slow decay... i can feel the rotting right now. m-hm!

MadKnight: Automaton2000 don't let him make fun of him

Automaton2000: but i love this website

MadKnight: no wait

MadKnight: i meant

MadKnight: well it's too late already

Default avatar.png iknowlua: hallo

Default avatar.png iknowlua: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/20445970b420aa0269b4c1e6515b909a4d18898

MadKnight: dude

Wontonimo: dude

Default avatar.png iknowlua: dude

MadKnight: Wontonimo i din't expect to see u again

MadKnight: so how's your escape challenge game thingy?

Wontonimo: hey MadKnight, it's nice seeing you here

MadKnight: i know

Wontonimo: i've not done the escape naz

MadKnight: that's why i'm here

MadKnight: someone said it was nice seeing me here

Wontonimo: wow, i wasn't following you before? weird

MadKnight: so i came here

MadKnight: wat u are not my follower?

Wontonimo: i see you have been exercising Automaton2000

Automaton2000: so you can just do

MadKnight: cringe

MadKnight: Automaton2000 ban this noname

Automaton2000: it's still a lot of data

MadKnight: Wontonimo look i turned into a troll

MadKnight: u gotta get used to that

Wontonimo: turned into? I must have missed the first phase of your evolution

Wontonimo: iknowlua , what brings you here

Thorcode: Is Automaton2000 is a robot

MadKnight: it's either u give me a chance to make fun of people here or i don't come here at all

Automaton2000: and don't forget to claim my tshirt/hoodie

Wontonimo: Automaton2000 is a chatbot trained on previously spoken phrases here (i think)

Automaton2000: i have to do anything

MadKnight: or i just spam Automaton2000

MadKnight: yea

Automaton2000: i want to code a bot for it

Wontonimo: there is another chatbot that uses a different method of generating phrases

MadKnight: Automaton2000 u can't code a bot to spam yourself you're already a bot

Automaton2000: why would you not have a lot of stuff is happening pls keep it down

Wontonimo: one is word pairs (triplets etc) and the other is NN

MadKnight: Wontonimo chill

Thorcode: How can that bot make a contest?

MadKnight: how can he make a thing?

Wontonimo: it didn't Thorcode

Thorcode: he had alot achivement

Wontonimo: it's all fake

Thorcode: https://imgur.com/a/vvlnlRX

Thorcode: those achievements from that bot makes me scared

Thorcode: hello AutomatonNN are you there?

ninnghazad: Automaton2000 dance a little dance.

Automaton2000: with that you can freely move to a cell that you have to remove it

Wontonimo: so MadKnight, do you think all future contests should be replaced with escape maze?

aangairbender: please dont do this, codingame will lose 'codin' in its name

Wontonimo: joined 2014! Wow aangairbender, you be old-timer

aangairbender: kinda

Wontonimo: what was it like back in 2014 here on codingame ?

ninnghazad: it was still in grayscale, but not so much plastics.

Wontonimo: displayed on a 640x480 CRT screen

Wontonimo: that made ozone

aangairbender: I can't even remember what was it like back in 2014 in general:joy:

aangairbender: i remember in 2015 or so, ubisoft used codingame for internship coding test

Wontonimo: the drugs?

Wontonimo: yeah, it removes memories

Wontonimo: a lot of the current new joiners were in preschool when you joined

aangairbender: back then I was a competitive programmer, so codingame didnt help much. Now I found bot programming to be much more interesting

Wontonimo: congrats on connect 4 and poker chip race. You are killing it in those. What kind of strategy did you use in poker chip race?

aangairbender: let me check

aangairbender: thanks btw

aangairbender: smitsimax

aangairbender: (or CadiaPlayer if you search in papers)

aangairbender: code in c#, so nice. Good memories. After that I converted to rust for perfomance

Wontonimo: i've not tried rust

Wontonimo: is there a significant improvement over c# ?

aangairbender: mainly performance

aangairbender: better type system as well

aangairbender: rust could be a bit difficult in the beginning though

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: How do I see a list of my own completed puzzles?

Hafeed06: Anyone good with JavaScript

Hafeed06: I have a question

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: I'm a Javascript rookie, but I am a second pair of eyes

Hafeed06: if I use { condition? iftrue: iffalse }

Hafeed06: This works perfectly but what if I wanted to use the same syntax

Hafeed06: But do nothing if false

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: No idea. I've always used if (condition) {do this}

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Sorry, mate

Default avatar.png 5922: Why use the ternary operator if you have no need for an else?

aangairbender: Hafeed06 what about condition ? iftrue : _

aangairbender: or let x = condition && iftrue;

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: bump: How do I see a list of my own completed puzzles?

Default avatar.png 5922: At the bottom of each puzzle page

Default avatar.png 5922: Scroll all the way down and you should be able to see your completed puzzles.

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Found it. Thanks. (to be clear, NOT at the bottom of, e.g. "Temperatures," but at the bottom of "training/easy"

Default avatar.png 5922: correct

Hafeed06: @aangairbender Correct

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: @Hafeed06 Wait, which one is correct?

Hafeed06: &&

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: gotcha

Hafeed06: 1=1 && executeiftrue

Hafeed06: && in this case means execute this statement only if the condition before the && is true

Hafeed06: It's basically an if statement without else

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Ah. I see. That's clever. xD

aangairbender: that's often used for conditional rendering in frontend (e.g. React)

Hafeed06: And in Short Mode in clash code

Hafeed06: xDD

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: How would you convert something like this to Python?

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: str.sort((a,b) => a - b);

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: *originally Javascript

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Nevermind, I'm being dumb.

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Took me a second xD

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: Can I talk to someone proficient in Python AND Javascript about Shadows of the Knight Episode 1?

Wontonimo: done

Thorcode: what done WOntonimo

Wontonimo: the issue is that javascript does "math rounding", and python does "bankers rounding"

Wontonimo: difference between javascript and python

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: I was about to thank you for this! Ahead of the curve.

Default avatar.png adamgosnell: @Wontonimo

Wontonimo: btw, you don't have to put the "@" infront of the name

Wontonimo: i'm so hungry for no reason. it bugs me

Wontonimo: sigh

MadKnight: Wontonimo

MadKnight: so u gonna do the challenge ?