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TechnoBot: Hi

VizGhar: chuvak1221 just dont use p for printing strings (puts instead)

ProCoder03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jDpptEIWbU

Default avatar.png SoNervous: there is no Erlang programing language:disappointed_relieved:

jacek: oO

jacek: happy Caturday

Default avatar.png Rycoff: hello someone pls can tell me what meens ?array on the fnct function initUserFolders(string $rootFolder, array $users): ?array

Default avatar.png Rycoff: what meens ( ?array)

zsltg: @Rycoff I'm guessing that's PHP, in that case it should mean a "nullable type", so the function can return either an array or a null

Zorg1: SoNervous : yes it's a shame :(

jacek: oh my

VizGhar: Hello. When you do pruning, do you compare some hashes of computed game state, or are you doing something else?

jacek: pruning where?

SNEEDSTER: How are you always in the world char

SNEEDSTER: chat*

jacek: where

dGrayCoder: Fall challenge is not multiplayer?

jacek: no :(

Thyl: Hi

ProCoder03: Hi

Default avatar.png yeses: hello

AntonCosmin: hey how do I print in C#?

AntonCosmin: like, for debugging?

Default avatar.png MarioUA: Console.WriteLine()

AntonCosmin: thanks!

Default avatar.png wyh-2150: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/3rl-1hd-oqa-7h5/in-game

MSmits: darkhorse64 I implemented the pessimistic/optimistic bound thing

MSmits: it helped

MSmits: naive application of mcts solver to C4 7x5 requires 2 million meta mcts nodes. With the pessimistic/optimistic bounds it's below 50k.

MSmits: I already had it below 100k with my own version, but this shaved off quite a bit

MSmits: it's just sad that the paper uses a minmax style, so a max-player and a min-player (instead of negamax style). So I had to pretty much write the whole algo myself, but the idea was good

MSmits: Also, not sure if jacek intended this, but I think he suggested I use more information out of my playouts. I now do that, I put the whole gametree into my metamcts after a playout (so the played moves, not the random ones). This also helped quite a bit.

jacek: :tada:

jacek: its always about those crappy pseudocodes eh

MSmits: yeah

jacek: so when do you solve 9x7

MSmits: not for a while. I am reproducing the result from John first

MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/tPCEXVr

MSmits: the 0, + and - are the ones I checked

MSmits: The list below are the ones that are possible with 64 bit

MSmits: most checked by John, some aren't (those have a ?)

jacek: https://64.media.tumblr.com/379ed7d579b69925e704d1d7f31d21f1/tumblr_inline_p9im3hlGDN1tg5wat_540.jpg

MSmits: i remove them from the list as i check them

MSmits: yeah :)

MSmits: Usually when you go to bigger sizes, the time required goes up exponentially, so checking the others first shouldn't be too bad. And if it is, then i shouldn't even be trying 9x7

MSmits: doing 11x4 currently

Default avatar.png vaeng: I'm playing the pod racing game and don't know how to progress. I beat the boss3 and then did test in arena, but I don't get a new boss ?

jacek: you need to wait till your submit finished

jacek: if you will be above boss, then you will advance next league

Default avatar.png vaeng: There is "list of the last battles" 65%

jacek: youre at 65% then

Default avatar.png vaeng: boss has no ranking

Default avatar.png vaeng: so I have to wait until 100%?

jacek: yes

Default avatar.png vaeng: the other leagues were almost instant

jacek: early wood leagues have very small number of games played per submit

Default avatar.png vaeng: okay, I get that, thanks for the quick reply

jacek: :tada:

Default avatar.png vaeng: okay, all 100%, but boss has no ranking

Default avatar.png vaeng: okay, i have to get back to the quest map!

jacek: nice

jacek: and did they name it mad pod racing for the madknight?

darkhorse64: A tribute to the 100k users driven here by MK

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: My Pod racing video feed has repeatedly stopped working (I still get the simulation data), anyone know how to fix? Restarting browser made it work again for one run only...

jacek: oO

ninnghazad: GamingGnawer i have the same problem, using chrome stable on debian, no fix besides restarting so far. but i have the problem with most games i use for a while at a time.

ninnghazad: for code of the rings, do you folks go down the rabbit hole to write some kind of AST and optimize on that or bunch together efficient short forms for stuff you can think of? or optimize the generated code?

jacek: oh my, python second on clobber :v

jacek: and sixth on connect 4. python is dominating world :scream:

ninnghazad: because python is written in c++ that is

ninnghazad: ;)

AllYourTrees: rust also getting renamed to python

jacek: :unamused:

ninnghazad: however python4 will only backward compatible with python2, but not python3. they said this move was long overdue and will benefit everybody in the end.

AllYourTrees: is python 4 a thing :O

ninnghazad: nah, im trolling

jacek: ban for trolling

ninnghazad: i mean , maybe, sometime it will probly

jacek: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/programming-languages-why-python-4-0-will-probably-never-arrive-according-to-its-creator/

ninnghazad: tldr? python3 good enough?

jacek: i dont use python except for simple scripts

jacek: and the most change from python2 in python3 is that ( ) are neccessary for print

ninnghazad: now that is trolling =)

jacek: trolls everywhere :unamused:

Default avatar.png Fenomenal: bruh, my foreach loop adds a negative number at the end of string[] xD

Default avatar.png Fenomenal: and it's just suppose to show the array

jacek: \0

Default avatar.png Fenomenal: wtf

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: ninnghazad what would you say if I told you

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: that Assembly is better to learn first and make memory thingies than C++ making difficult class things

jacek: trolling eh

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Hey woah not a troll just an honest inquiry

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Can someone explain why learn to code programs start with console programs? Wasn't Python made for much more than terminals? Experts don't use terminals, right?

Default avatar.png Waguirre: because this training your logic to develop and solved problems

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Great answer. But wouldn't an experienced backender know console i/o is a stream and programs are ASCII files and all that?

jacek: experts use terminals all the time

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Can someone slide into a terminal and change the output to fool a victim? And mess up a really important math calculation?

ninnghazad: you can mess up any calculation by placing a big chunk of uranium nearby - it mess up the computer and the programmer at the same time!

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: That's great I'll try that one day :)

Default avatar.png yamin2000: how to improve my coding skill if i could not solve any question ?

Default avatar.png yamin2000: i know all the basic

Default avatar.png yamin2000: do i need data structure and algorithm now ?

jacek: have you tried the descent, temperatures or dual horse racing

Default avatar.png yamin2000: not sure

Default avatar.png yamin2000: maybe

Default avatar.png yamin2000: i ll see it now

jacek: :upside_down:

Default avatar.png yamin2000: i am reading it trying to understand it

jacek: :+1:

Default avatar.png yamin2000: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/8a1162d6-c9d8-437e-b033-4397fa6f8c78

ninnghazad: yamin2000 max_height is just where you remember the highest mountain you have seen so far.

ninnghazad: when you look at the next mountain you can compare and see if this one is even higher.

Default avatar.png yamin2000: thanks

Default avatar.png FlatPostItNoteEater_63d5: like my code

Default avatar.png FlatPostItNoteEater_63d5: i used c++ for ,pastebin

wassim.benamor: Hello, how do you win clash of code (less characters task) with JS? Python players always write very less code

Default avatar.png puppey: need to switch language haha

Default avatar.png puppey: I code in C

Default avatar.png puppey: never win those ones!

TheAvengingTurtle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1fISh-pag

Westicles: it isn't about winning, it is about... well actually the whole thing is kind of pointless, really

Westicles: so it is about winning, which you won't do with JS

Default avatar.png Shymurskyy: Wow nobody uses c#

Default avatar.png Shymurskyy: I guess I have to learn python or js for this game

ninnghazad: really, but microsoft told me *EVERYBODY* uses it!

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Westicles what do you consider when you look at the mostly irrelevant problems solved in learning environments? We may find the solution to On^3 problems if we solve PvsNP first. Why not centralize our efforts onto PvsNP worldwide?

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: What do you consider, sir?

ninnghazad: those things don't mean what you seem to think they mean.

Westicles: I think we should drop almost everything and concentrate on immortality research

Westicles: I mean, how hard can it be? They've had the whole genome for decades now

ninnghazad: make a CG puzzle, maybe somebody cracks it =)

ninnghazad: "Solve to make all humans immortal" - 50 points.

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: To be honest, I apologize.

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: If only I paid more attention before I got here I wouldn't be operating on fumes.

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: well I'm taking a break

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: /me

tweeker: лохі

tweeker: пака

tweeker: С# тоооппп niga

tweeker: nigger

tweeker: python govno

Dilduck: C# enjoyer

tweeker: virgin

Wontonimo: this is a public chat tweeker. Be respectful, keep the conversation (mostly) about coding or codingame.

Default avatar.png ota2007: this not discord

Wontonimo: that's right. this is not discord