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Default avatar.png chimichangas: I have no clue what im doing

Default avatar.png RAPU: de donde son

IfIHadATail: if you are just starting out we all felt the same way : )

Wontonimo: gn struct

Default avatar.png RAPU: java

IfIHadATail: if there is in anything in particular we can help you out with please ask

Default avatar.png RAPU: codigos para estudiar saben

Default avatar.png RAPU: los que mas utilisan

Wontonimo: English here please RAPU

Wontonimo: there are other channels if your would like to speak with another language like #FR

Wontonimo: Spanish is #ES maybe?

Wontonimo: El canal español es #ES RAPU

Thorcode: It think it is france

Thorcode: oh spanish

Wontonimo: the previous place I worked, I had to write something that guessed the language someone spoke in chat and do an Auto Translate, profanity and sentiment analysis for the moderator

LinkAzoiD: spaceship

Wontonimo: landrover

Thorcode: that why you know it Wontonimo

Wontonimo: :sunglasses:

Wontonimo: hey LinkAzoiD :wave:

Default avatar.png dndgsdFBD: 한화의 김성근 감독님 사랑해

Default avatar.png dndgsdFBD: ㅖㅖㅖ ㅖㅖㅖ ㅖㅖㅖ ㅖㅖㅖ

Default avatar.png leyaleyaleya: hello i'm a first year college what i learned about the information technology in short IT hehe i want to learned about any programming

jacek: :+1:

TheBlueBias: Oo

Default avatar.png kaaaas: hi

Default avatar.png kaaaas: :grinning:

Default avatar.png ghr4l: hey

TechnoBot: hi

TechnoBot: ghr4l

Default avatar.png ghr4l: hi tech

Default avatar.png kmostafa: wanna battle?

Default avatar.png J.Sej: kto z polski soj i pisze 123

Thorcode: what do you want to say ? J.Sej

derjack: i dont know

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: I"m completely new to coding and hesitating between python, c++ and javascript. I want to be an electronic engineer, which language do you guys recommend?

Uljahn: not js

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: lol ok thanks

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: I guess I'll start with python since it seems easier than c++

TheBlueBias: not python

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: bruh

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: why

Uljahn: python is ok for EE

Uljahn: im EE myself

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: oooo

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: and what do you think I should learn first? ofc I will learn other languages later too

derjack: python EE?

Uljahn: if you start with c++, your knowledge would be much deeper

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: ok

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: I will take your advice

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: thanks man

Thorcode: I start with Python first then will learn C++

Uljahn: also for engineering in python you should consider lerning scipy and numpy

Uljahn: *learning

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: sounds interesting

Default avatar.png XenoDuck: I'll see what scipy and numpy do and then choose

Uljahn: that's where c++ and python blend together

Thorcode: how could this code check harshard number

Thorcode: print('ftarlusee'[int(N:=input())%sum(map(int,N))<1::2])

Thorcode: do you know how it work Uljahn?

Uljahn: yes

Uljahn: walrus operator and slicing

Thorcode: alot of new knowledge

Thorcode: 'ftarlusee' what does this do?

Uljahn: it takes even or odd chars from the string

Uljahn: so you get false or true

Thorcode: oh I was think that it print ftarlusee

Uljahn: that's what slicing is for

Thorcode: oh thanks Uljahn

Thorcode: to do that my code was long :))

Thorcode: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9e9f42cc-7bb6-479d-a2c3-335a14d96110

TechnoBot: brb

TechnoBot: i just joind

TechnoBot: ok

TechnoBot: im leaving

Thorcode: ?

Uljahn: TechnoBot: pls no need to be annoying here, it's a warning

baghead420bagboi: how many of you use this website at school or at home ?

Archopecia: I mostly use it when I'm at work and need a little break

baghead420bagboi: because i just discovered this website out of boredom in ict class

derjack: you searched for boredeom and found this site?

niluthebear: oO

Default avatar.png Roody: L

struct: hi

niluthebear: hey

eulerscheZahl: a new survey showing on the start page :thinking:

eulerscheZahl: "Do you hire developers as part of your job?" I wonder where this is going

struct: i only had to answer 2 questions

eulerscheZahl: recruiter? no developer? no

struct: yes

eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/1wuj3bq someone didn't verify what i'm doing

eulerscheZahl: what's a "low-code platform"?

eulerscheZahl: they give examples but i've never heard about any of them

struct: lol

eulerscheZahl: clicking a few checkboxes to get your webpage instead of writing code it seems

Marchete: working remote a challenge?

Marchete: damn I wish

eulerscheZahl: they just keep calling me

eulerscheZahl: and tomorrow i'll even go to office

eulerscheZahl: already the 4th time this year

Marchete: wow, 4 times

Marchete: in 10 months

Marchete: monsters!

dreadylein: unreasonable

dreadylein: :D

derjack: fruit day?

Westicles: people are still working from home? that's insane

eulerscheZahl: "You're over halfway through! Have a GIF break" struct was much faster than me :(

Wontonimo: i quit at that point

eulerscheZahl: "Which positions do you think will be most sought-after in 2022?" how shall I know?

derjack: 69

Marchete: going to office, connect to Microsoft to work on cloud, priceless

Marchete: that's like solving "The descent" with a NN, it works

Marchete: but a waste of resources and overly complicated

Wontonimo: :D

Wontonimo: there should be a badge for that. Solved 5 puzzles with unnecessarily complicated code

Westicles: keeping people afraid to leave home for 5% of their adult life... priceless

derjack: look for onboarding NN codes

eulerscheZahl: hey, they've finally learned not to use checkboxes to ask for your salary, where one ends at X and the other starts at X+1000 (like 41k-60k, 61k-80k, 81k-100k)

eulerscheZahl: nvm. i thought it's free text but it turned into a dropdown

Marchete: Hmm, I picked the "I hire tech ppl" at the survey, too many questions :S

Marchete: and I hire 1 each 2 years :D

Wontonimo: that's not ppl, that's "person".

Wontonimo: i made the same mistake Marchete

eulerscheZahl: couldn't resist and created a bug report on discord

TheBlueBias: It's very disappointing to still see you contributing to their data masquerade... :disappointed:

Marchete: hmmmkay :D

eulerscheZahl: was curious if it's on a relevant topic, not to fuel their next poor choice. but turned out to be unrelated I think

eulerscheZahl: so i just told them that I prefer whiteboard interviews

derjack: over blackboard ones?

Uljahn: nice data poisoning

Marchete: CG:"Here, you have a full featured platform, ad free"

Marchete: You:"Cool"

eulerscheZahl: i'm really fine with pen and paper coding

Marchete: CG:"Can you fill a survey"

Marchete: You:"NO"

TheBlueBias: Neumann, give back his account to Marchete...

eulerscheZahl: that wasn't even a troll answer

Marchete: do you prefer whiteboard?

Wontonimo: i do

Default avatar.png diddykong69: I prefer blackboard

eulerscheZahl: leads to more discussion I think

eulerscheZahl: on the other hand: i have little to no experience with interviews

Marchete: in my experience, ppl with shitty CV are outstanding sometimes

eulerscheZahl: only had a single job interview in my entire life. and that wasn't too technical as it was for a training during the Bachelor studies. Then I just stayed there

Marchete: I did many job interviews as recruiter. Two guys that I plain would have rejected by CV turned out to be the best

TheBlueBias: Concerning the survey, even if I didn't have "problems" with CG, I will not answer knowing how the collected data are used...

Marchete: one had "construction worker" as prior experience...

Marchete: post a rant on Facebook about that, TheBlueBias

TheBlueBias: Social networks...

eulerscheZahl: it will be used for a lengthy report with lots of charts

eulerscheZahl: and shared via twitter, email, ... as always with these survery

eulerscheZahl: surveys

Marchete: so.. a survey?

Marchete: sounds like one

TheBlueBias: Yeah and without any contextualization. And openly distributed, shared and quoted by a bunch of management and rh sites...

TheBlueBias: Like each years. Taking any digit as a fact...

tukyiytgblen: нвтва

Marchete: btw talking about privacy, how comes that Germany doesn't have google street, eulerscheZahl?

TheBlueBias: Well, of course it's a problem only if you consider misinformation as a problem... :smirk:

tukyiytgblen: i from Russia

tukyiytgblen: xtbhcjynvkumligh

derjack: oO

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tukyiytgblen: негр получил 2

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Marchete: ./banhammer

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eulerscheZahl: oh sorry

tukyiytgblen: шок

eulerscheZahl: that one too?

TheBlueBias: Your fault Marchete... You speak about privacy, KGB attack...

eulerscheZahl: Germany has google street view

eulerscheZahl: just lots of citizens who wanted to pixelate their house

Default avatar.png 1234567890098765421: кто прочитал тот лох

eulerscheZahl: stop it

struct: we need numbers

**TheBlueBias slaps struct around a bit with a large 5%.

TheBlueBias: Here your are

eulerscheZahl: can't find it anymore. but there was a newpaper article with a few locals standing in front of their house and protesting against streetview. and of course they gave an interview to the newspaper and their full names were mentioned too

eulerscheZahl: that irony

struct: lol

Marchete: I enter on Google Maps, and Germany is "out" something like that https://bigthink.com/the-present/germany-street-view/

struct: same for me

eulerscheZahl: it's mostly the big cities indeed, lots of protests

eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFBuHsKXb0 german satire show

Marchete: no, I tried to "travel" from other countries with google street, I can't

struct: maybe only germans have access to it

Marchete: even highways with no buildings near :thinking:

Marchete: could be

TheBlueBias: The car was going to fast to take photo on the highways. :p

eulerscheZahl: can you see this? it's my old school https://www.google.com/maps/@49.4631102,11.0853026,3a,75y,127.34h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJERUin42a6AU1pSYFqiSEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

struct: yes

Marchete: yeah. some cities work

Default avatar.png Plus_Ultra_My_Hero_Academia: need help coding big noob

eulerscheZahl: https://3dcad.websharecloud.com/?v=pv&t=p:default,c:panoramaview,h:f,m:t&pv=pv1&pv1=vt:p,u:a5d6a02a-4fea-4c35-8794-49584fbfaf06,cf:47.36,dh:f,st:f,p:0.13035,t:-0.82264&p=hanssachsgymnasium the school with the swastika floor pattern

Marchete: lol

eulerscheZahl: to be fair the floor is older than that dark part of history

Marchete: and it's too subtle, just some geometrical illusion to me

Marchete: I could have been there years and I wouldn't notice it

eulerscheZahl: look me a few years and a classmate to notice myself

Default avatar.png wisa7: 4

TimothyAlexisVass: How is 76x0 e6x0 96x0 46x0 f6x0 36x0 "coding" ?

eulerscheZahl: i think you should elaborate more on your question

TheBlueBias: How is python "coding"?

TimothyAlexisVass: What is 75x0? I know 0x76 would be 118 in Base10

eulerscheZahl: 75 * 0 is 0 i would say

eulerscheZahl: read the whole thing backwards?

eulerscheZahl: 0x57

TheBlueBias: Even knowing it I don't see any swastika...

Thorcode: I know 0x76 would be 118 in Base10 how this happend?

eulerscheZahl: oh yeah it's backwards. i just solved your reverse

TimothyAlexisVass: It's not

eulerscheZahl: it is

eulerscheZahl: >>> s='76x0 e6x0 96x0 46x0 f6x0 36x0' >>> s[::-1] '0x63 0x6f 0x64 0x69 0x6e 0x67'

eulerscheZahl: and convert that

TimothyAlexisVass: ....

Thorcode: convert to?

niluthebear: hex

eulerscheZahl: ASCII chars

niluthebear: ord

TimothyAlexisVass: That's really strange because that's what I tried and it was wrong. But I must have done a typo or something.

eulerscheZahl: .join(chr(x) for x in eval(s[::-1].replace(' ',',')))

eulerscheZahl: assuming s holds the input

Thorcode: oh ok

eulerscheZahl: returns 'coding' as demanded

eulerscheZahl: ezpz as a certain someone would say

TimothyAlexisVass: lmnsqz

Manjius: in python, what is happening when you do

  • x = something

vs x = something

TheBlueBias: one more char

Uljahn: search for "packing and unpacking in python"

Manjius: i see i see, ty

TheBlueBias: Didn't know uljahn was an alias for man... Or is it google? :thinking:

Thorcode: palindrome substrings what is this

Scarfield: palindrome is a string that has the same characters written backwards

Scarfield: abba, lol, asdfdsa

Uljahn: guess it could mean a substring of a palindrome or a substring being a palindrome itself, need more context

Thorcode: oh

Marchete: lol now coders strike back is renamed to "Mad Pod Race"

Marchete: MadKnight's honorific name :rofl:

struct: power of thor cover was updated

eulerscheZahl: :(

struct: damn they are also updating the art of all?

eulerscheZahl: yes

struct: tron is now line racing

eulerscheZahl: titles are just the first step

eulerscheZahl: and csb

TheBlueBias: They could put Blaise's Lines

Astrobytes: Tron should be Illuminated Bicycles

eulerscheZahl: but you are crossing them too often, doesn't fit the game mechanics

Miki09: Why has been csb renamed?

eulerscheZahl: the empire strikes back

Miki09: ok

Miki09: :)

Astrobytes: What about Chuck Norris?

eulerscheZahl: thibaud shared a long list, i don't even remember all the entries

Marchete: Who? Nuck Chorris?

TheBlueBias: Chuck Norris isn't copyrighted. The copyright is chuck-norrised

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/updates-of-old-puzzles-and-games/193102 and the emoji spammer is back. by his standards it's really civil this time

Miki09: But the link for csb still stays https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back

Astrobytes: yeah saw that earlier, notable by restrained use of emojis

struct: who's is the emoji spammer?

eulerscheZahl: this guy https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/codingame-fall-challenge-2021-details-please/191792/9

Marchete: :thumbsup::regional_indicator_t::regional_indicator_h::regional_indicator_a::regional_indicator_n::regional_indicator_k::regional_indicator_s:

Manjius: i like him :relaxed: he seems :eye: fun :clap::tongue::nail_care:

Thorcode: ok

eulerscheZahl: oh, BTC and ETH climbing again

3141948: * id useful sometimes when i need to unpack tuples to pass arguments to functions.

3141948: is

eulerscheZahl: and ID can also be useful

3141948: Yes if you abuse of globals in your functions

Thorcode: how to delete the last space?

Thorcode: in python

Thorcode: print (n-1, end = ' ')

Thorcode: for this code

3141948: Rtrim()?

Thorcode: thánks

Thorcode: how to use that

Thorcode: only the last space

3141948: "string ".rtrim() ?

Thorcode: thanks

TheBlueBias: rtfm...

Astrobytes: Perhaps you should look at the documentation Thorcode

Marchete: Tron -> Line Racing

Thorcode: str.trim())

Thorcode: nicest for me

Marchete: I suggest: Wondev woman -> Female person who codes

Thorcode: but how to do that in my code

3141948: 👍

Marchete: totally abject names :D

TheBlueBias: F**** woke...

Thorcode: print(n-1, end = ' ') and plus trim

Default avatar.png Makea84: several possible solutions, using built-in functions, using loops...

Thorcode: nvm

Thorcode: I got it

3141948: Print(n -1, end=' ')?

Default avatar.png Makea84: if you just want to delete the last white space, best to use lastIndexOf for example

JHBonarius: ola

Scarfield: hi

Astrobytes: wow, long time Mr Bonarius

JHBonarius: yep. been in a rollercoaster

TheBlueBias: In clojure?

Astrobytes: I remember you having some personal issues yes

JHBonarius: insanity yes. sick/disability, divorce, moving twice, fired, reintegration, new job. money issues. insanity

JHBonarius: forgot depression xD anyhow. doing way better now

Astrobytes: It never rains, it pours, right

JHBonarius: How's the C++ compiler nowadays. C++20 support yet?

Astrobytes: Glad to hear it

Astrobytes: Not yet lol

JHBonarius: yeah, I figured.

jacek: https://i.redd.it/k0w2ybu0ohu71.jpg

TheBlueBias: In fact eulerscheZahl you were right. Looking carefully there's a lot of them! :scream: https://imgur.com/a/1MdGYqW

JHBonarius: I'm now working as a C# programmer. Compile times are great, but also much not so great stuff

Default avatar.png Goblin_Dev: Someone please give me the solution to 'The descent'

JHBonarius: Hahaha, people still asking for solutions in chat

Default avatar.png Goblin_Dev: I got a lead dev next to me who can't solve it either

TheBlueBias: :rofl:

Default avatar.png Goblin_Dev: so yeah, 'beginner' level

JHBonarius: So, I was away for like 2 years? More? Are there any good writeups on using ML?

jacek: i.e. alphazero oware?

Astrobytes: Must be about that yeah. Yep. There's some in the forum, some on tech.io, ML is currently in fashion here

TheBlueBias: As contests.

dreadylein: @Goblin_Dev maybe its less the coding and more the physics ?

JHBonarius: @Goblin_Dev "Lead dev" doesn't say much. In my experience it's the guy that doesn't move on to a next job and automatically gets promoted to that position

eulerscheZahl: wow TheBlueBias. I don't even remember those

Astrobytes: afk for a bit, someone link JHBonarius with some of the ML/NN articles please

JHBonarius: @Goblin_Dev there's a link to a "Let's play" on YT in the description

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/58137/alphazero-like-implementation-for-oware-abapa-game-codingame/alphazero-like-implementation-for-oware-abapa-game

eulerscheZahl: start here JHBonarius

TheBlueBias: Well the board is pretty suspect too, if you want my opinion eulerscheZahl... :spy:

eulerscheZahl: i noticed

JHBonarius: Thanks! :upside_down: :thumbsdown:

eulerscheZahl: but that's not music related at all

TheBlueBias: Didn't find how to integrate 3rd Reich March on imgur, sorry... :(

eulerscheZahl: it didn't upload with that?

JHBonarius: Anybody know under what name Remi Coulom is going on CodinGame? It's not kayufu

eulerscheZahl: crazy_remi

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/dots-and-boxes/leaderboard

  1. 4 here

JHBonarius: I heard/saw him recommending CG on CppCast ep319

JHBonarius: thx

eulerscheZahl: you missed so much

eulerscheZahl: also no bot contest this time

eulerscheZahl: there's this new concept: escape rooms

JHBonarius: yeah. I had "other things" :rolling_eyes:

eulerscheZahl: i read that. sorry to hear, get well

JHBonarius: I also see certification. Is that some job hunting thing?

eulerscheZahl: no idea

**TheBlueBias try not to laugh.

TheBlueBias: :3

Default avatar.png nacho.code.ar: hi, i have some issue here, can someone help me?

eulerscheZahl: clicked a bit on the quest map. and later of they added these certificates that clutter your profile

Marchete: I'm above that legend guy on D&B :sunglasses:

Default avatar.png nacho.code.ar: someone attempts MIME types challenges?

JHBonarius: haha, I strated one of the test. They're terrible.

eulerscheZahl: i still haven't

TheBlueBias: You laughed first. You lose!

eulerscheZahl: how do they look like?

JHBonarius: "Let's consider the following sequence of digits where all natural numbers from 1 onwards show up in order." And then shows a range with 0's in it

3141948: > I also see certification. Is that some job hunting thing? CG certifications can be added to your linked profile, which permits me to make recruiters notice where to find me...

TheBlueBias: 10min max in a language you don't know eulerscheZahl.

TheBlueBias: Coc level

eulerscheZahl: i'm just not interested it giving it a try

eulerscheZahl: not the part of the platform that i'm here for

JHBonarius: You also get "n" as input, which you should use to index an array. But it doesn't tell you how you get the array

JHBonarius: it's impossible to answer

TheBlueBias: Well, I don't allow myself to criticize something I don't know, so I tested and listened to feedbacks before mocking it... :smirk:

jacek: but did you pass

TheBlueBias: Of course.

TheBlueBias: I'm "Better than 99% of the pros" in python... :rofl:

eulerscheZahl: Stilgart should scrape the API to see how many users are >99%

TheBlueBias: :3

TheBlueBias: First who're the "pros"

JHBonarius: Seriously. How can I determine the value in a set of 5000 digits, if they don't give me the digits?! Who made these tests?

TheBlueBias: Can you share a pic JHBonarius?

JHBonarius: It's against the rules of the test... Already sharing text here is on the edge...

eulerscheZahl: who reads those rules?

eulerscheZahl: but yeah, you are right. then don't share it

TheBlueBias: If the "pros" are the users who checked "I'm a professional" when registering, that's once again, a valuable statistics. :p

eulerscheZahl: and the 99% worse than you are the ones who didn't take the test?

MohamedMiri: Hello , i need some help to create some activities to new students in university , IRL! , plz contact me

eulerscheZahl: let them do the quicksort dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8

TheBlueBias: Or the person who took the test. :thinking:

TheBlueBias: Remember this one

TheBlueBias: ^^

TheBlueBias: Anyway, I really don't understand

MohamedMiri: hhhhh no one will dance , i wont . Some simple activitiess !

TheBlueBias: No certification authority, and no difficulty, except some input/statement problems as JHBonarius said, so what's the value of this "certifications"?

LidiaParker: >><

Default avatar.png Makea84: Certification is a way to assure the knowledge, but not an international company certificate it in this case, not the same as Microsoft, CISCO, Oracle or other companies/institutions...

eulerscheZahl: i thought it's something that you know you are connected to the right website

Marchete: ..and they earn $$$ with that, too

eulerscheZahl: the thing you see when you click the lock icon in your address bar

Marchete: certification here: "this guy knows, I tell you"

JHBonarius: only if it's certification by an acknowledge authority. CG isn't that. And with these kinds of questions, I don't expect them to be that

Marchete: lol

eulerscheZahl: i know. I have a basic AWS certification. if it hasn't expired yet

Marchete: I have ITIL, yes, my company went crazy

Marchete: and paid me that course+cert!

eulerscheZahl: i don't even know what that means

JHBonarius: I recently got a MS C# certification. The quality of those questions wasn't great either... asking really old stuff, whichj nobody uses anymore

Marchete: other than that, zero cert/courses

eulerscheZahl: like ArrayList and HashMap? or a bit newer at least?

Default avatar.png Makea84: im just CISCO CNA, but have will try LPIC and OCAP

JHBonarius: almost

JHBonarius: Is the C++ STL still compiled without optimizations here?

eulerscheZahl: pass extra arguments with the "out" keyword. what are named tuples?

eulerscheZahl: yes, use pragmas and code your own containers

JHBonarius: out isn't all bad. Things like int.TryParse still use that. It's not the best, but it has it's purpose

eulerscheZahl: i would dare to day: if MS would define a TryParse today with modern C#, it would have a different signature

JHBonarius: Would it? it's nice to use it this way in conditional statements

eulerscheZahl: hm, you can declare the out variable in place now. maybe it wouldn't :thinking:

JHBonarius: oh great, the CG editor has automatic " and ' completion. that will take some getting used to

eulerscheZahl: Monaco editor now

Marchete: why are you that mad? I thought you were a veteran her at CG...

eulerscheZahl: the same that's used in VS code

Marchete: here*

eulerscheZahl: just use your local IDE and copy-paste

JHBonarius: i'm not mad? I'm just getting used to something different

eulerscheZahl: the cars here are mad

Default avatar.png Makea84: love cars competition

Default avatar.png Makea84: hahahaa

eulerscheZahl: i was referring to "mad pod racing"

Default avatar.png Makea84: me too

eulerscheZahl: oh, can't read nvm

Default avatar.png Makea84: So funny

eulerscheZahl: "car compilations" is what I read

eulerscheZahl: thinking of Russian dash cams

Default avatar.png Makea84: hahahaha lol, well im trying to type in english, but im spanish

Marchete: Madknight can be in both

Default avatar.png Makea84: in fact we have created a simulated competition about cars, we challenge each other in a tournament mode

jacek: try search race

Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/optimization/search-race

Westicles: MKPR?

Westicles: I wonder if the estate of the Strugatsky brothers might sue over my clash titles...

jacek: oO

TheBlueBias: Don't do that jacek. Have you seen your wordcloud?

jacek: the what

jacek: Automaton2000 what is wordcloud

Automaton2000: so if they are good

TheBlueBias: https://imgur.com/a/uhvUffM

jacek: oh my

TheBlueBias: See that big oO that's watching you?

Westicles: I thought the huh would be bigger

jacek: no eeyup?

TheBlueBias: Only jacek logs in this one.

Astrobytes: it's there

Astrobytes: inside the 'm' of 'game'

TheBlueBias: Tried it on the fr chat logs, and that's totaly boring. Anyone has the same bigger words. Too much "little words" in French... Everybody has "de", "et", "le" or such things on top...

JHBonarius: whoa! storm outside!

TheBlueBias: While it's outside...

Astrobytes: It would be far more disturbing were it inside

jacek: maybe

TheBlueBias: Lightning stroke my electric installation some years ago... First (and last) time I saw a flying phone...

jacek: .O

JHBonarius: whahaha, it's really been too long... I was wondering why I got so many errors on compiling... turns out I was using gcc instead of g++. :joy:

Default avatar.png Erkus: ;.


TheBlueBias: Hmm. Astrobytes say "Yeah" "lol" and ":D" most of the time... :3

Default avatar.png Erkus: ;

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: erksu

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: ersus

Default avatar.png Erkus: AYO

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: erkSUS

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: YOU'RE SUS

struct: stop spamming

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: KID

Default avatar.png Erkus: SUSSY BAKA?

Default avatar.png TheMadWalrus: sus!!!

Astrobytes: TheBlueBias: Yeah lol :D

TheBlueBias: You're the third most talkative also.

Scarfield: only third, gotta pump those numbers

Astrobytes: don't remember what position I was when eulerscheZahl did it last time

struct: whos the most talkative?

struct: euler?

TheBlueBias: Of course

Scarfield: saw Den skyldige, damn

Astrobytes: Good right?

Scarfield: yea, knew nothing of it other than it was a crime/thriller, but great movie

TheBlueBias: Your's is still interesting ScarXD

Astrobytes: It's so intense, literally almost from the start, thought ya'd like it :)

TheBlueBias: https://imgur.com/a/eNcPhdq

Scarfield: its pretty cool how my messages suck, but my word cloud is interesting :p

JHBonarius: did someone ever thest if the good-old Q3 fast square root is of any use ?

Default avatar.png FinnLongman: :money_mouth:

Astrobytes: JHBonarious: there are various fast sqrt implementations in use on CG

Scarfield: its pretty cool that i "remember watching" scenes that was never showed

Astrobytes: JHBonarius rather

Astrobytes: Scarfield: Right? You practically live the whole movie, yet only over the phone/headset...

Astrobytes: So well acted, can't have been easy

eulerscheZahl: hey, you ran my script again TheBlueBias. and no more smits at #1 of most words? :(

JHBonarius: Yeah, I saw some presentation online that the Q3 fast sqrt is slower then modern implementations in libraries. So I was wondering if it's true

eulerscheZahl: most active users from last time:

eulerscheZahl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ee043dc5-d778-44ec-b6b4-9dd4d20d367d

Stilgart: eulerscheZahl: nope, I should scrap to see if there exists someone who is not >99% (less data to store)

TheBlueBias: Oh right eulerscheZahl. My bad. Smith is first, you're second.

eulerscheZahl: if we do bad on purpose, what's the lowest we can get?

TheBlueBias: 52% :3

UndercoverToad: sounds like a job for me

Scarfield: lol

Astrobytes: hahaha

UndercoverToad: but where can I test it? i don't have the languages on my profile page

Astrobytes: do a puzzle or something

TheBlueBias: On home perhaps ?

TheBlueBias: Do onboarding. :grin:

Scarfield: you have seen 12 angry men i suppose Astrobytes?

Stilgart: how come I am the 72nd more active while I haven't play on multis since aeons

Stilgart: ?

UndercoverToad: i'm gonna copy-paste. euler, solution please!

UndercoverToad: still no test to take at 3 solved

TheBlueBias: "Active" Stilgart?

JHBonarius: have a nice evening, I need to eat

Stilgart: active player

Stilgart: see euler's link

UndercoverToad: chat activity from march2020 to feb2021

Scarfield: you 2 bonarius

TheBlueBias: Yeah, chat activity Stilgart

Astrobytes: Scarfield: The original one yes, is there a good remake?

UndercoverToad: and you don't need much to reach top100 there

Stilgart: ho... I was thinking about arena activity for some unknown reason

Stilgart: (who be nice to have this info)

Scarfield: not that i know of, just thought about that when watching den skyldige, also only in one room iirc

Stilgart: would*

eulerscheZahl: at least I track new bots now

Astrobytes: Scarfield: Yeah, it's also brilliantly done

Stilgart: Automaton2000: be prepared and defend yourself

Automaton2000: why don't u have a bot that will be the one

TheBlueBias: The words you say the much are "puzzle" and "eulerscheZahl" Stilgart ^^

Stilgart: that's clearly a proof that the word turtle (tortue) is not taken into account

Astrobytes: hehehe

TheBlueBias: *On world only

Stilgart: I almost never speak on #world

Stilgart: (are you trying to make me spam some turtles ? :p )

TheBlueBias: On #fr your top word is "de" :3

UndercoverToad: still no language tests to take

TheBlueBias: Like almost every one...

TheBlueBias: Have to wait

UndercoverToad: gonna play the big puzzles now

TheBlueBias: tomorrow perhaps

Stilgart: such words should be blacklisted

Stilgart: have fun UndercoverToad

TheBlueBias: Yeah. I'll try with a blacjlist later

TheBlueBias: -j+k

Westicles: C# shows now

TheBlueBias: I can do the test in some awful language. For science.

Hjax: what is that most active users list euler

Scarfield: read that as most attractive

eulerscheZahl: level 10 and still no test. i give up

Hjax: if thats the case, astrobytes cat is ranked above mine, which is unacceptable :P

Scarfield: but most active in world chat some time ago

Westicles: maybe have to click something on the quest map?

eulerscheZahl: most active in terms of letters written on chat

Astrobytes: Hjax: hahaha :D

eulerscheZahl: after removing links

Hjax: im higher than i thought i would be

Astrobytes: that was from a while ago

TheBlueBias: Ok. I'll take the swift test...

Hjax: before i vanished.............. hi guys btw :P

Astrobytes: indeed lol, hi :)

eulerscheZahl: oh wait. I was on the start page and not my profile page

eulerscheZahl: now let's screw up on the test

TheBlueBias: o/ Hjax long time not saw

Scarfield: do your worst

Astrobytes: bad luck on your test!

TheBlueBias: Oh well. If euler do it...

Foxwizard5556: yeah i know

Hjax: i imagine the general consensus from the regulars is that the fall challenge will be boring?

TheBlueBias: What challenge?

Astrobytes: you didn't see what it is?

Foxwizard5556: really dude that's crazy

Hjax: i did see, and it looks boring

eulerscheZahl: nice, there's an "end test" button. don't even have to open the tasks to fail them

Scarfield: its a coding escape room

Hjax: 2 hours of puzzles

Scarfield: so not a contest in the usual sense, pretty sad tbh

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/profile/2606412cefc02cbda447c2ff8b7ec40d2316234 i failed \o/

Astrobytes: As a 'thing' it's quite fun if you have a nice team. It is not in any way, shape or form a replacement for a bot programming contest

Astrobytes: imo

TheBlueBias: "Unknown level"

eulerscheZahl: for me it says: Score < 1%

Scarfield: +1 astro

eulerscheZahl: oh my bad. I have to check the box to show it to everyone

TheBlueBias: Oh no Scarfield, one astro is enough of them...

Scarfield: xD

Hjax: have people stopped running unofficial contests? i had fun doing the PR2 and code of kutulu ones

Scarfield: only you can summon more anywho

TheBlueBias: One more xD for the cloud

Scarfield: CG stopped "supporting" them

Hjax: how so?

Scarfield: "xD cloud"

eulerscheZahl: last january they discussed some multiplayer of the month or so. just a bit more exposure for 1 game

eulerscheZahl: might still come

eulerscheZahl: ask cat needs attention

Foxwizard5556: what is going on in this

eulerscheZahl: afk*

Default avatar.png Luigis3: sup

Hjax: lol did codingame get some cease and desists?

Hjax: CSB is "Mad Pod Racing"

ja_fica: MSmits

ja_fica: Can you share you TT code please?

Scarfield: they are changing many others to avoid copyright issues, started since coderpad bought CG afaik

ja_fica: on C4, its amazing

Foxwizard5556: why do you guys spam so much. it's like a cloud of mice fighting.

jacek: for all you know, he may be just printing those win/loss

Foxwizard5556: ha ha nice one

Default avatar.png Shalds: Hello, in php gmp_abs() no work ?

Foxwizard5556: i thought it was error-code error error

ja_fica: Have anyone tried brusts of minimax on MCTS?

Foxwizard5556: no not really

Hjax: bursts of minimax?

ja_fica: yes

jacek: mcts solver is kind of negamax eh

ja_fica: batchs of 8 states solves

ja_fica: mtcs solves 1 state per complete rollout

Hjax: i think some people do a low depth minimax search as part of EPT

Foxwizard5556: yes batchs of 7 states

ja_fica: for example

Foxwizard5556: i thought that was what that was

ja_fica: and propagate its result

Foxwizard5556: oh ok

Astrobytes: Foxwizard5556: keep going and get a kick

Foxwizard5556: nice job

ja_fica: minimax with deth requires evaluation function

Hjax: mcts with ept also uses an evaluation function

struct: but wouldnt mcts with ept minimax also need an eval?

ja_fica: yes

ja_fica: I was talking without eval or ept

struct: minmax without eval?

ja_fica: burst of solving K states at each rollout

ja_fica: mcts solver but solving K state and propagating that K states

ja_fica: it should solve states much faster in my head

TheBlueBias: Astrobytes be nice, he's only 3 years old.

struct: but you need to limit the depth right?

Hjax: mcts solver just propagates any terminal nodes it runs into as it builds its tree, i dont think i understand your question

ja_fica: imagine you use regular minimax with TT and no time limit

ja_fica: you search from end to start

jacek: ja_fica https://dke.maastrichtuniversity.nl/m.winands/documents/mcts-minimax_hybrids_final.pdf

struct: I understand but solving a state isnt trivial

struct: how deep will you need to go?

ja_fica: but you limit the states solved so you can propagate visits and leverage from MCTS heuristic

jacek: shallow minimax will be beneficial if solved states are close to each other

ja_fica: yes

ja_fica: exacly

jacek: see the paper i linked

ja_fica: would it turn a MCTS solver much faster to solve?

jacek: depends on game. they tried shallow minimax for different parts of mcts

ja_fica: im saying this because using TT in there would definitely have less colisions

jacek: not only in rollout or expansion

ja_fica: I was talking burst after expansion

ja_fica: so that UCT formulas works nice for the visited states

Default avatar.png Ceki: I think I'm too bad at this

Default avatar.png Ceki: I can't solve even one exercise

Rich_Engler: What do you do when you fin a clash of code that is computationally impossible to complete?

Thyl: Why LINE RACER and not tron ?

Default avatar.png Ceki: you asking me Rich_Engler?

Rich_Engler: Anyone really.

jacek: Rich_Engler all clashes are possible to compute

Default avatar.png Ceki: yet I didn't solve even one

Default avatar.png Ceki: hahaha

Rich_Engler: The test cases in this clash include numbers that exceed 4.2 billion!

eulerscheZahl: it's not LINE RACER Thyl. it's Line Racing

Thyl: But why ???

Rich_Engler: Even trying to convert to 64 bit numbers the test cases exceeded the limit

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/updates-of-old-puzzles-and-games/193102

eulerscheZahl: i can assure you: the list is longer than the few that have been renamed so far (last crusade, skynet, tron, csb)

eulerscheZahl: :sob:

Rich_Engler: So in exactly what programming languages can you compute numbers over 64 bits?

eulerscheZahl: in all. turing completeness

Hjax: python has native support for arbitrarily sized numbers iirc

eulerscheZahl: yes it does

eulerscheZahl: so does Haskell

eulerscheZahl: C# and Java have BigInteger classes

eulerscheZahl: pari/gp is great at handling huge numbers

Stilgart: gmp is enough for C and its derivatives

struct: ruby shuld be able to handle it

jacek: perfect for reverse clash https://twitter.com/seluappendix

jacek: "trained" by GA, at least it doesn't lose on unseen maps https://streamable.com/1le4if

KiwiTae: o/

niluthebear: o/

Wontonimo: that GA does the job, "but at what cost".

jacek: theres some fault. always converges to -18 or 18 degress :thinking:

struct: never 0?

jacek: or 0, but its always one sided

MSmits: hey guys. I generalized my c4 solver, it takes all sizes between 4 and 11 now for width and height. Been checking the results with: https://tromp.github.io/c4/c4.html

jacek: ja_fica ^

MSmits: biggest solved so far is 6x6. I don't think it's super efficient, but it works

MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/0ZIjkMD

MSmits: is ja_fica doing this too? I missed the conversation earlier

ja_fica: Im not sure

jacek: he wanted TT code from you

ja_fica: ha yes, I have coded my own version, I thin I will submit it to arena

ja_fica: but I lost a lot of rollouts

MSmits: you mean a hashed version?

MSmits: TT?

ja_fica: I do a very not efficient hash mush probably enough

MSmits: see if you solve earlier

MSmits: do you use your own or a library?

MSmits: like unordered set or some sucvh

ja_fica: my own

ja_fica: no, I use array

MSmits: ah ok good

ja_fica: I solve it early but I need a better opening book

MSmits: use it to generate one :)

ja_fica: good idea

MSmits: you need a good bot to make a good book

MSmits: if i dont have a good bot for a game i dont even try it

MSmits: thats why i never made a book for breakthrough

ja_fica: I have to admit that my bot is a little unstable

MSmits: your bot is good enough for sure

MSmits: my bot is around darkhorse's strength

MSmits: (booklesS)

MSmits: well this was before the TT, but i doubt it matters much

struct: my bot sucks vs books

jacek: if you have weak bot, just give it more time to think. ezpz.

struct: the books destroy me

ja_fica: fk it, I will submit to arena, hope it works fine

MSmits: can always resubmit old version

ja_fica: true

MSmits: especially if it pulls me down, then the old version is preferable

ja_fica: your book is much better

ja_fica: I finnaly understand how to transform to Chinese caracters

ja_fica: I use python instead of C#

MSmits: in 4x7 c4 the corner move is a draw and center wins

ja_fica: and only chinese caracters from 20000 to 20000+(2^14)

MSmits: center loses sry

MSmits: so center is defnitely not always best

MSmits: why from 20000?

MSmits: you can start at like 192 or something

MSmits: just have to skip maybe 2 of them

ja_fica: I have some invalid caracters, dont know why

MSmits: yeah there are 2 afaik

MSmits: paragraph separator and another separator

MSmits: line separator

ja_fica: in my case a have around 1000 invalid characters in python, don't know why

ja_fica: myy bot is getting reckt

MSmits: wow

MSmits: maybe it's different in C#

ja_fica: yes, 14 bits is enough for me

MSmits: ja_fica be careful about judging vs some players. Some of them are super deterministic

jacek: or utf16-be vs utf16-le

MSmits: i also use 14 bits, but i think the 20k+ chars use more space

MSmits: some count as 2 i think?

jacek: ~50k+ count as 2

MSmits: hmm i thought it was sooner, but allright, i never bothered to check

ja_fica: i use from 20k to 36k so its fine

MSmits: yeah, its not like you need the space

MSmits: unless you're also doing NN

jacek: :no_mouth:

ja_fica: my bot is really unstable because I keep expanding it, destroying the content of the TT

ja_fica: I should apply an evaluation function

ja_fica: with NN, thats what Im going to do

MSmits: sounds like a fun experiment

ja_fica: One interesting challenge is transforming the weigths of a convolution neural network (Conv2D) into pure C++ code with no libraries and auto-vectorization. I did it yesterday, its amazing that I can now use to for robotics

jacek: convs :scream:

ja_fica: 6 for cycles

ja_fica: all inside one another

ja_fica: I use single dimentional to all vectors

ja_fica: so I don't ever need to flatten the array

ja_fica: https://ibb.co/dWjZ5sz

ja_fica: I would pay 100€ for this code some months ago

jacek: is this from some paper?

ja_fica: no, I developed myself

ja_fica: I wanted to do this a some weeks ago

jacek: :money_with_wings:

ja_fica: for whole code to deploy any keras model into auto generated c++ code (3 scripts, 1 python, 2 c++), 60€ if you want xD

ja_fica: Im programming the easy MaxPool and AvgPool as well

ja_fica: https://paste.ofcode.org/aWF4vyMYNdeh2DaCLChUiH

ja_fica: is generates that code, the secret is the sequence of the wigths into a single dimension array to have good cache and auto-vectorization

ja_fica: jacek

Default avatar.png CrispyBacon1764: is there a file explorer/a way to make more files?

Default avatar.png CrispyBacon1764: in the editor

Westicles: sure, go to bash and type ls

Thorcode: in mime type I must ouput the q and n in type of file?

Thorcode: why the last testcase has 9999 it make my code die:(((((((((((((

Thorcode: mime = {ext.lower(): tp for ext, tp in (input().split() for _ in range(n))}

Thorcode: how this could happend in the code there is not ext

Thorcode: no

Default avatar.png bminnix: ? It's defining it by the split.

Default avatar.png bminnix: mime becomes a dict holding the lowercase extension and the mime type that goes with it.

Default avatar.png bminnix: For each of the n lines passed to it after q has been presented.

Default avatar.png bminnix: I see you got 100 on it, so you figured it out, lol.

TechnoBot: Stop invite me Thorcode

Thorcode: thanks bminix

Thorcode: Why TechnoBot?

Default avatar.png Mossydem: New around here.. can you do the challenges in any language? Or are there specific language challenges in some cases?

struct: only if you do private clashes

Default avatar.png Mossydem: okok gotchu thanks

Default avatar.png UphilZeus_: thats so hard to me :')

Default avatar.png MeBen: What is?

**PatrickMcGinnisII burps

Thorcode: why you burp PatrickMcGinnisII

PatrickMcGinnisII: it's a redneck Hello!

Thorcode: really

**PatrickMcGinnisII is a Florida redneck

PatrickMcGinnisII: redneck's are happiest when having eaten or drank beer or both

PatrickMcGinnisII: :pizza:

Thorcode: no

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII it is not a food

Thorcode: redneck

Thorcode: redneck hello has another defination

PatrickMcGinnisII: don't know another definition... enlighten me?

Thorcode: why you say a food hello

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII 10:34AM it's a redneck Hello!

PatrickMcGinnisII: BURP=HELLO in redneck lingo

PatrickMcGinnisII: ;)

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII 10:34AM it's a redneck Hello!

Thorcode: oops

Thorcode: wrong paste

Thorcode: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2ac9b8b0-0862-4621-a9ee-dc91a0bc2eec

PatrickMcGinnisII: it's 11:44pm here

Thorcode: ok

Thorcode: read my paste first plz

PatrickMcGinnisII: People from the white South sometimes jocularly call themselves "rednecks" as insider humor.

PatrickMcGinnisII: "here, hold by beer, watch this...!"

PatrickMcGinnisII: famous last words

Thorcode: but you say it is redneck helo

Thorcode: not yourself

PatrickMcGinnisII: it is for me, it means...hey, i'm here and I'm happy

PatrickMcGinnisII: after a meal, it can indeed serve as a compliment to the chef

Thorcode: nice

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII burps

Thorcode: * PatrickMcGinnisII is a Florida redneck

Thorcode: oh ok

**PatrickMcGinnisII pings the chat by burping

Thorcode: you use me right?

Thorcode: the command

**PatrickMcGinnisII nods

**Thorcode PatrickMcGinnisII is funny

Thorcode: I forgot the said

PatrickMcGinnisII: working on Simple AI duels, kinda boring

Thorcode: :D

Thorcode: shall we solo?

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII

PatrickMcGinnisII: the puzzle...it is kinda solo

Thorcode: on clash?

PatrickMcGinnisII: i don't clash much, mostly bots na dpuzzles

PatrickMcGinnisII: and puzzles

Thorcode: ok

Thorcode: what happend with cbs

Thorcode: PatrickMcGinnisII ou beat my in all of the bot programming

eulerscheZahl: you are only a real readneck if you voted for Trump

eulerscheZahl: and probably have a Trump campaign sign on your lawn

PatrickMcGinnisII: I have a bullet hole in one of my trucks, but Zero Trump crap