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NeevShah: HELLO

NeevShah: :grinning:

derjack: good morning

Jirikora: good afternoon from here

Thorcode: good afternoon too

Benji-the-scripter: Hello. Day 4 of almost no coding knowledge

Thorcode: hi benji

Uljahn: well spent

Benji-the-scripter: Uljahn some friends of me is respecting you very much

Thorcode: well I have almost all day full of new coding knowledge

Benji-the-scripter: cool

Thorcode: cuz there is a book

Thorcode: that.........................

Benji-the-scripter: good book?

Thorcode: yeah

Benji-the-scripter: where to buy

Benji-the-scripter: ?

Thorcode: you could download it online

Benji-the-scripter: cool

Thorcode: or print it

Benji-the-scripter: where?

Thorcode: http://bedford-computing.co.uk/learning/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Python-Cookbook-3rd-Edition.pdf

Thorcode: here

Benji-the-scripter: thx i will read it later

Benji-the-scripter: that was a f***ing muc bit of knowledge

Benji-the-scripter: much*

Thorcode: yeah

Thorcode: "a bit" knowledge

Benji-the-scripter: a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig bit of knowledge

Thorcode: benji

Thorcode: could you help me

raizbro: hi

Benji-the-scripter: hi

Prat030154: hi

raizbro: hi

raizbro: hi

Thorcode: stop say hi guys

raizbro: ok

Prat030154: ok

Anth: ok

raizbro: guys dont spam

raizbro: pk

Default avatar.png Trevodorax: ok

Default avatar.png Kobzar: hi

raizbro: hi thor code

Uljahn: I think your time could be better spent if you focused more on problem solving rather than mindlessly chilling in the chat. This site is dedicated to practicing coding after all. Keep in mind that flooding the chat with nonsense won't make you a better coder.

Thorcode: Uljahn is cool

Thorcode: you almost in legend legue of any bot compitition

Uljahn: mostly gold, im not a pro coder, also im on python

Thorcode: almost my bot solo see you in legend

Thorcode: well I gotta beat you in someday

Uljahn: beating a cat is animal abuse :crying_cat_face:

Thorcode: no this cat is magic thor is going to beat it

jacek: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AptClosedDavidstiger-mobile.mp4

Thorcode: in someday not today :grin:

Default avatar.png Havertz19: :sunglasses:

Thorcode: nice jacek

Uljahn: (╯°□°)╯︵:popcorn:

Thorcode: well thor is going to beat the cat with meow meow

Benji-the-scripter: cat is going to win! Uljahn are best

therealbeef: am i the only one being a bit disappointed by the fall contest?

jacek: just a bit?

therealbeef: im trying to stay nice in chat

Uljahn: my disappointing is immeasurable and my fall is ruined :crying_cat_face:

jacek: :head_bandage:

therealbeef: how do you win those escape games? best time, or best score?

[CG]Thibaud: your score is time + hints used

therealbeef: time since start of the contest or time using the website?

[CG]Thibaud: since start

[CG]Thibaud: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/coding-escape-events

raxkin: this will be the unique fall challange? there will not be a contest like the last one? i'm a bit disapointed

therealbeef: from the discord channel I understood that it is even unclear whether next year's contests will be bot programming or not

dbf: I hope that CG is just testing new formats not having some real issues with budgets/etc to run contests as we used to have :disappointed:

raxkin: I think it's easier for them to implement a bot programing challange than a escape challange that takes 168h aprox

derjack: escape from CG, thats the challenge

raxkin: So i gues they are testing or tring to marketing the escape challanges as there is some paid content there

raizbro: what is happen

[CG]Thibaud: no budget issue dbf don't worry, testing the concept mainly

[CG]Thibaud: raxkin no, it's easier to create a Coding Escape than a bot programming game

Benji-the-scripter: how do i complet second AI quest so i understand coding a little bit more

[CG]Thibaud: try this the other way around Benji-the-scripter

[CG]Thibaud: understand coding first, then do the quest

Benji-the-scripter: ok

botacoda: hello guys

Benji-the-scripter: hello

botacoda: which is the trending and the best language?

Default avatar.png emilt: Subjective or google statistics

Wontonimo: hey botacoda, what kind of job are you intersted in ?

Default avatar.png SabertheLost: why replace the fall challange with an escape room that 'requires a team?

Wontonimo: for business applications it is : java, php, javascript

Wontonimo: for machine learning it's python, c++

Wontonimo: for game dev, c++, c#, javascript (if browser based)

Uljahn: Automaton2000: no time to learn the basics, just jump on the hype train! :scream_cat:

Automaton2000: do you mean the one in the statement

Benji-the-scripter: hellö

Benji-the-scripter: (hello)

Uljahn: DRY

Benji-the-scripter: ?

Uljahn: don't repeat yourself

Benji-the-scripter: ok

DerMert: Yo

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: omg

DerMert: I need help

DerMert: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:

Erossi: yo whats up?

DerMert: not much how bout u

Erossi: yea can't complain bro

Erossi: been chillin

Erossi: what kind of help do you need?

DerMert: with java

DerMert: sudoku validator

Erossi: where you stuck at?

DerMert: the first one xD

Erossi: ohh

DerMert: ion understand java that much

Erossi: Just got into programming?

DerMert: ive been programming with c# for a while and now we switched to java its confusing

Erossi: Oh i see

Erossi: thats good then

Erossi: so you kinda need help with syntaxes ?

DerMert: yea like the commands and shiiii

DerMert: how do i check if a whole line has the numbers 1-9 without duplicates

Erossi: use range in a loop I'd suggest

Wontonimo: one way : if you have an array of 9 booleans, go through each square and check off the corresponding boolean as you see the number

Wontonimo: if the boolean is already set ... there is a duplicate

DerMert: aha ok

Wontonimo: the python way would be to make a set. check that each element isn't yet in the set before adding it

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: you mean set kind of like an hashset in java?

Wontonimo: yeah

Wontonimo: tbh, a boolean array will be way faster

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: yeah would work too but i think ill do the hashset bc i used it too in c#

DerMert: we have a 2dimensional array, its a sudoku field and we have to check if some numbers are duplicate

Wontonimo: using hashset is like using a combine harvester to pick 2 tomatoes.

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: i love you brother wontonimo

Default avatar.png Gussaci: I'm back bitches

marejvnc: Hhaahhaha

Default avatar.png Gussaci: How u doin??

DerMert: guuuuurl is that u??

Default avatar.png Gussaci: Yaaasss

DerMert: o ma gad gurl i missd uuu

Default avatar.png Gussaci: Sammmmmeeeee

Uljahn: use DM guys

Wontonimo: keep it coding or codingame related. generally stay on topic. be respectful.

Default avatar.png Gussaci: No sir

Wontonimo: I made a channel for you. Click here #cooldudes

Wontonimo: it's your own private channel

DerMert: oh hahahah thank you <333333333333333

Default avatar.png hamzaargoubi: xD

Westicles: or just use the friends channel #fr

Wontonimo: no, that's french ! not friends

Wontonimo: lol

Westicles: oh, oups

alowaniak: Finally in top 100 of CoC, only took me over 1K participations 😅

Wontonimo: congrats

Wontonimo: now graduate to puzzles and bot battles

derjack: now do the clash of bots

alowaniak: Yea I should probably do those, but for some reason I always gravitate back to the CoC I think they generate more dopamine for me

derjack: so does meth

Default avatar.png Gussaci: I know u didn't

Wontonimo: if you can do flood-fill, tron https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/tron-battle is a good bot battle.

Wontonimo: connect 4 is super easy to start in https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/connect-4

DerMert: i know you lyin

Wontonimo: prbly wrong channel DerMert, try #cooldudes

DerMert: oh sorry

Wontonimo: alowaniak , space shooter is really fun and really easy to get into https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/space-shooter

Wontonimo: pew pew

Default avatar.png Gussaci: I know u just didn't talk to my gurl like this

Default avatar.png Gussaci: U better ask somebody about me!

Astrobytes: Keep your nonsense in your own channel or get kicked.

Astrobytes: Ban next time. And quit the DMs

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: what is the difference between int and Integer in java

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: sorry if i noob

Wontonimo: that's a good question

Wontonimo: int is a "primitive".

Wontonimo: it is just that, a number

Wontonimo: Integer is an object. it has all the things objects have

Wontonimo: and you can subclass it

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: ohhhh

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: thank u

DerMert: noob ivan

Default avatar.png ivanmusa: :cry:

DerMert: :nerd:

alowaniak: Thanks for the recommendations @Wontonimo

Wontonimo: let me know which one you start on if you do. The bot battles that give you a list of valid next moves are the easiest to create a random bot to get started.

raizbro: hi

raizbro: guys see thorcode

raizbro: hi

raizbro: !

alowaniak: hi

Coder_noob001: printf("hi");

alowaniak: So how do the bot battles work? Does it do like 100rounds or something?

Thorcode: what does pip do?

raizbro: like poop

raizbro: :joy: :joy:

Uljahn: raizbro last warning

raizbro: what

derjack: alowaniak depends on the game. the usual - bot gets input the prints the output per turn. there are up to 600(?) turns

Thorcode: well raizbro almost die :)

Wontonimo: :wave: Thorcode

Thorcode: hi

Thorcode: well

Thorcode: what is the interest of bank

Wontonimo: google can tell you all about pip. google "pip package manager"

Thorcode: well

Thorcode: I finished it

Wontonimo: bank?

Thorcode: yeah

Wontonimo: maybe you are not the Thorcode I know.

Thorcode: in coc it have a stupid clash need to caculate money

Thorcode: oh

Wontonimo: oh

Wontonimo: that makes sense then

Wontonimo: i don't help with Clash, sorry. Try google. If it were a puzzle, or bot, no problem. I don't have anything against Clash, it's just the time crunch makes it really hard to help

Thorcode: well I'm ther Thorcode you know

Thorcode: ok

Thorcode: oh it is so simple

Uljahn: always try to search the answer first, it's not very interesting to answer questions you can resolve yourself in 15 sec

Wontonimo: :thumbsup:

Thorcode: Uljahn how could you have a moderator badge in chat

Astrobytes: Thorcode stop it please.

Astrobytes: (DM'd me the same)

Uljahn: Thorcode: i guess you can get some ideas here https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/moderation

Miki09: Is there any way I could unlock other coding escape missions without being in any company?

eulerscheZahl: afaik: not yet, might be possible in the future

eulerscheZahl: but i'm not actively following their progress on this, just what i remember from someone asking on the forum

derjack: you know more than me

Astrobytes: Liked that rapid disclaimer there euler :D

eulerscheZahl: like: "how can I do <weird thing>? asking for a friend"

Astrobytes: hehehe yep

eulerscheZahl: i think their countdown is wrong. there's daylight saving time change between now and the event.

eulerscheZahl: for the contest

Astrobytes: Maybe that's part of it. Gotta figure out the right start time (needs no coding skills :P )

wlesavo: hehe finally got my coif legend

TimothyAlexisVass: congratulations

eulerscheZahl: python heuristics?

Astrobytes: eyyy gratz :)

Uljahn: gratz

wlesavo: yeah no search, just a banch of heuristics

eulerscheZahl: wow, there's a python at #3 :

eulerscheZahl: :o

wlesavo: i think complexity-wise coif legend quite similar to OOC, at least my code also have 1k+ lines and similar stuff with predicting opponents cuts and fatalities

eulerscheZahl: COIF is one of my largest bots

eulerscheZahl: last fall challenge(?) - the cooking witches - is by far my smallest among the more recent ones

eulerscheZahl: oh, that annoying neighbour. he's testing the bell on his bicycle once again be repeatedly ringing it. why would anyone do this?

Thorcode: They want to prank you?

Thorcode: he

CodingWizardAI: Does anyone want to join a "coding escape" challenge?

Ari24-cb24: whats a coding escape challenge?

eulerscheZahl: just say "yes" and you will see

CodingWizardAI: Its difficult to explain

CodingWizardAI: its like a mix between a coding challenge and an escape room

CodingWizardAI: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/PXb-H85-gBf-t7a

Ari24-cb24: Sounds fun, I'll give it a try! tyty ^^

struct: hi

eulerscheZahl: hi

eulerscheZahl: maybe we should try this with our next chat trolls: just invite them to an escape room?

Astrobytes: inescapable room would be better

eulerscheZahl: i was thinking about making a puzzle a while ago (somehow i didn't) would have been part of the story: your co-worker did something. but unfortunately he got stuck in one of codingames escape rooms, so you have to figure out what exactly he did

eulerscheZahl: the blackbox wiring where you have to toggle switches to turn on specific lights

Astrobytes: I remember you were going to make a puzzle with that kind of mechanic, didn't know you had a theme too lol

eulerscheZahl: in the end those puzzles are too much effort for a handful of players

Ari24-cb24: ouh

wlesavo: minesweeper was really cool

eulerscheZahl: my main problem is the low visibility. it's just on the same page with 100 other puzzles. hard to stand out and get seen, even for a high-quality puzzle. they are just sorted by age

eulerscheZahl: 1935 community contributions approved, including clashes. soon we'll hit the 2000 mark

eulerscheZahl: and at 10000 my herokuapp will stop working (row limitation of free databse)

struct: lol

struct: I dont think it will happen

eulerscheZahl: before we hit 10k, CG will change their API and I won't find motivation to rewrite my parser

struct: have you added escapes to it yet?

Westicles: you can delete the deactivated ones

jrke: make a lookup table for those contribution and update them in regularly :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Westicles: oh, 10k limit not 2k

eulerscheZahl: i'm only indexing user contributions. not even official puzzles

eulerscheZahl: i could just stuff all puzzles into a single row :poop:

Westicles: it seems I will never catch the french, they'll always be one ahead due to the teads puzzle

Westicles: afaik the only unreachable deleted puzzle

eulerscheZahl: make your own puzzle, solve it and then get it deleted before they see it

Westicles: yeah, I thought about that. and put unicode in the title so no forum post

eulerscheZahl: use unicode in the title so they don't find it via forum message (the bot has a bzug)

eulerscheZahl: :D

eulerscheZahl: same idea

Westicles: ha. yeah, but I am too scared to pull more stunts

struct: damn, was checking discord and its even worse than I thought

eulerscheZahl: so much hate for the escape

eulerscheZahl: we have a strong bot community

Astrobytes: :)

jrke: the most reacted normal message i ever noticed on CG discord server

jrke: https://prnt.sc/1tyd2gw

darkhorse64: It's clearly not my interest but I'll probably gather some friends IRL and try the escape

struct: its not about being an escape

struct: its about whats next

darkhorse64: Wow, it gets even worse than I thought. Time to dig boardgamegeek.com

struct: they say they dont know what the future will be

darkhorse64: Yes, I read that too

eulerscheZahl: so, do we have to hope for a fail at the escape?

Astrobytes: Would appear so. I don't like wishing failure on anyone but..

eulerscheZahl: same. i like cg too much to wish them bad luck

struct: I wont be in chat during the contest tbh

jrke: not failure but something for bot programming

struct: Its the only thing i will do

jacek: fail at escape would win success on bot programming?

Uljahn: maybe they will conduct another survey

jrke: i think the feedback form of this contest could be decisive factor for fututr

Astrobytes: :smirk:

jrke: future*

darkhorse64: Does that mean that high level coding is not so popular ? There is hardly any bot competition elsewhere

struct: its probably more related to the cost of them

eulerscheZahl: https://www.gocoder.one/blog/ai-game-competitions-list

-oa-: at 0% in shortest, all should be tied, regardles of code length imho

struct: Also I dont see how they can prevent cheating on esacpe

jacek: for 0% just submit empty code

eulerscheZahl: that's why time matters. at least #1 is without

Astrobytes: cheating? How would one do that on an escape?

eulerscheZahl: sarcasm?

struct: But doesnt the timer starts when you start playing?

eulerscheZahl: no, read the help page

eulerscheZahl: ceg

Astrobytes: :D

struct: ah I see

eulerscheZahl: To prevent cheating, the default leaderboard will rank teams according to the official start time of the event.

eulerscheZahl: Are there any prize to win?

We'll award CodinGame T-Shirts to each player of the top 5 teams.

struct: time to make a team of 6 of me to get shirts

eulerscheZahl: you mean 5 teams of 6 of you

struct: maybe

struct: math is hard

eulerscheZahl: team 1: struct, Tobou, nulte, who else?

eulerscheZahl: + deleted user

cosmix: teams for what?

eulerscheZahl: escape contest

eulerscheZahl: meanwhile we are at 15 :sob: reactions

Astrobytes: I can't help but think that they're making a terrible mistake; then again I never was the optimistic sort

eulerscheZahl: they tried a similar thing with tech.io it's just a completely different audience and you can't shift CG players to the other platform. building a new community takes years

eulerscheZahl: now they try the same but this time the competitive platform gets a real hit while tech.io was running mostly in parallel

Astrobytes: Yes. And tech.io was never a risk to the community here

eulerscheZahl: even tech.io got some hate from hardcore CG players of that time

Astrobytes: tech.io just smells of wasted potential to me

eulerscheZahl: it's a cool idea. i was impressed by how much you can do on that platform when I created a playground

Astrobytes: Yeah, it is cool. Just way underutilised.

darkhorse64: I even use it to benchmark my bitboard code

Astrobytes: nice :)

KalamariKing: Never really understood the point of tech.io, what's it supposed to be for?

darkhorse64: godbolt is also worthy for that purpose and you can even look at the asm

eulerscheZahl: sharing knowledge

Astrobytes: yeah godbolt is superb

eulerscheZahl: write an article about any IT topic that you are skilled in

darkhorse64: knowledg is powa

struct: I just use it for the same thing that darkhorse does

struct: But the cpus on tech io are a bit slower than cg ones

NeoTytanX: who asked

struct: Kalamari did

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/213/using-c-linq---a-practical-overview/welcome articles like this one are the initial idea behind tech.io

eulerscheZahl: why am I toadberg on the tech.io discussion? https://prnt.sc/1tyge7s

struct: im also tobou there

eulerscheZahl: as you should be

dbf: I don't see any screenshots at prnt.sc, tome to tune my adblocks :)

Default avatar.png JacobTheCoder: hello

Default avatar.png carl-h: hey

Default avatar.png carl-h: can someone join the discord vc and help me

Default avatar.png carl-h: im doing C# but if you use another language then it should still work

Default avatar.png carl-h: ill be here for a while chilling in general VC

Uljahn: hey, could you be more specific with the kind of help you need?

Default avatar.png carl-h: im not understanding the tutorial and im still learning how to do C#

Default avatar.png carl-h: im extremely new

Uljahn: the tutorial?

Default avatar.png carl-h: yeah it's guiding me but idk what it wants me to do

Default avatar.png carl-h: if you join the vc i can screen share

eulerscheZahl: i join if astro does too

Uljahn: it might be tough to learn a language and solve problems at the same time, i'd recommend to do the former first

eulerscheZahl: ah, CSB stream

eulerscheZahl: wontonimo your chance to shine

ZarthaxX: toad lost interest real fast :P

eulerscheZahl: no, i was giving astro a chance for a paradoxon by saying "i join if euler doesn't"

eulerscheZahl: but he missed it

ZarthaxX: i didnt read that

CodingWizardAI: Has anyone done the Davinci coding escape, I'm almost done, but I can't find the encrypted message anywhere

ZarthaxX: was that a pm

ZarthaxX: fun one :P

eulerscheZahl: eulerscheZahl 05:06PM i join if astro does too

literally a few messages above

ZarthaxX: but that isnt a paradoxon

eulerscheZahl: it is, if astro gives the right reply

ZarthaxX: ahhh

ZarthaxX: lmao

ZarthaxX: pity he is afk

eulerscheZahl: euler => astro => !euler => !astro => euler => ...

ZarthaxX: my brain cant stand this already :P

eulerscheZahl: there was this Simpsons episode where Lisa was sick and Marge says that she shall stay home

eulerscheZahl: Bart: "when Lisa stays home, I'll stay at home too" Lisa: "when Bart stays at home, I'll go to school"

eulerscheZahl: bart: confused

ZarthaxX: that's me :rofl: haha

ZarthaxX: 3 guys talking about csb already in vc

eulerscheZahl: you are not a polar bear of culture

ZarthaxX: i havent watched simpsons in years

eulerscheZahl: shall we join the party?

ZarthaxX: forgot already

eulerscheZahl: oh, 2 again

ZarthaxX: im techincally working

ZarthaxX: lmao

eulerscheZahl: i also stopped watching simpsons years ago. they just put stupid gags over a real story nowadays

ZarthaxX: procoder didnt understand csb :P

ZarthaxX: it has become quite bad since they changed owner right

ZarthaxX: i mean the rights

ProCoder03: dude, my mic isn't working

struct: are you streaming csb?

eulerscheZahl: fine, i'll do it

ZarthaxX: struct not toad

ZarthaxX: :rofl:

struct: ah they want to chat about C#

ZarthaxX: who is that guy Bata man the duck knight#0468

struct: not my expertise

ZarthaxX: wtf

ZarthaxX: struct i think the guy just doesnt get the commands part of csb

ZarthaxX: printing out actions and such

eulerscheZahl: they don't need me, going to (Y, Y) instead of (X, Y)

ZarthaxX: :rofl.

Astrobytes: I missed it, sorry, was afk :D

eulerscheZahl: do you at least agree that it would have been a good reply?

eulerscheZahl: did that once in real life "i go there if euler comes too" "i go there if you don't" someone didn't get the joke :(

Astrobytes: lol, well, I liked it at least :)

ipsissimus: had a job interview at 10. guy sends me hackerrank link

ipsissimus: doesnt ask any code related questions

ipsissimus: :|

eulerscheZahl: so, in what position do you see yourself in 5 years?

eulerscheZahl: what was your best team experience?

ipsissimus: hopefully asking non code related questions

eulerscheZahl: you have 9 marbles that all look the same. but you know that one has less weight than the rest.

eulerscheZahl: how often do you have to use a pair of scales to find it?

struct: are these real questions?

fkberthold: I've gotten a variant on the marble one for a Sr. dev position in the last couple of years.

eulerscheZahl: i got asked some nonsense like "when you have been the most proud/disappointed about yourself?"

eulerscheZahl: refused to answer, got the job anyways :rofl:

Westicles: if you throw a penny off a boat, does the water level rise or fall

eulerscheZahl: how big is the sea?

WolfDarrigan: I'm doubting myself, but I think it falls

eulerscheZahl: i go with raising

Westicles: hmm, maybe I should have specified pond.

WolfDarrigan: oh well that changes everything ;)

Astrobytes: Falls

eulerscheZahl: or does it stay the same? no idea

eulerscheZahl: Gravity Falls. Great show, I recommend watching it

Astrobytes: something to do with displacement of mass/volume

eulerscheZahl: 1st season is a bit meh but then it gets better

fkberthold: Ok, if you change it from a penny and a boat to a bowling ball and a really big bucket. It would rise because the bucket(which displaces more water because it takes up a larger area) would then just be floating at the top and the bowling ball would sink. Does the same apply for the penny and the boat?

WolfDarrigan: You can make it more extreme without changing too much, imagine your penny weighed as much as a car, but was still the same volume. How does that change your answer?

eulerscheZahl: but inside the boat the weight will push the boat down as well

eulerscheZahl: surely also related to the difference in mass density of water and penny

WolfDarrigan: the answer is very different if you use very small rocks

eulerscheZahl: KalamariKing you misspelled "but i'm lonely"

KalamariKing: i forgot the pound symbol exists

eulerscheZahl: you wrote the O too late

eulerscheZahl: a few years ago codeforces liked to ping @everyone on discord for some announcements that don't affect many users

eulerscheZahl: there was always a WHO CARES reaction

eulerscheZahl: they've stopped pinging

KalamariKing: I did write the o too late damn

Astrobytes: You've done it wrong again

KalamariKing: fr

Default avatar.png MeBen: Very frustrating when you don't get 100% because of a hidden "Crash test" validator.

TimothyAlexisVass: Yes

Stepan0806: are there chat in coding escape?

TimothyAlexisVass: What do you mean?

Stepan0806: chat like this

Stepan0806: not only audio

eulerscheZahl: you could use some external chat like discord with your team if needed

eulerscheZahl: i don't know if CG itself has a chat for you

Astrobytes: can't remember :thinking:

Default avatar.png MeBen: What's the motivation behind making coding escapes a team-only thing?

Astrobytes: You can always make your own #channel anyway

eulerscheZahl: but does the escape have a chat on the side?

Astrobytes: MeBen: It's a teambuilding event product fundamentally

Astrobytes: euler: that's what I can't remember :D

Astrobytes: First 2 times, we used Zoom or Teams or something. Then they introduced the voice plugin

Default avatar.png MeBen: Oh right, that makes sense. I hate teambuilding exercises ... maybe that's why my team work is so bad.

eulerscheZahl: don't worry, you can just skip the contest

Astrobytes: It won't affect your stats or anything

Default avatar.png MeBen: The escapes sound like a really fun idea though

eulerscheZahl: i took off Monday and Tuesday in 2 weeks for the Huawei optim on codeforces. I hope it's worth it

Astrobytes: They are fun, don't get me wrong (with a decent team of people)

eulerscheZahl: we are just salty as this one replaced our beloved bot programming contest

Astrobytes: Oh the graph/flow one. I might even join just to pass the time.

eulerscheZahl: i'd be perfectly fine if they would co-exist

Astrobytes: ^

XeroOl: why does this chat keep refreshing and moving my focus to it

eulerscheZahl: someone launched a "competitive programming hall of game" website. they estimate that tourist won about $350000 of prize money :o

eulerscheZahl: https://cphof.org/profile/topcoder:tourist

eulerscheZahl: XeroOl add ?disableChat to the URL to hide it completely

XeroOl: interesting

XeroOl: thanks

Astrobytes: lol, pretty impressive

BlaiseEbuth: :metal::imp:

eulerscheZahl: even Errichto "only" at $4000

Astrobytes: Gennady is a beast though

eulerscheZahl: no doubt

eulerscheZahl: and I can definitely name 2 contests where tourist also won some real money, that aren't even mentioned there

eulerscheZahl: so definitely more than those 2, if even I can name 2

Astrobytes: And this only covers cash prizes, he's won lots of hardware etc too

eulerscheZahl: they don't even list hackerrank. there used to be some highly paid top ranks as well

eulerscheZahl: like $2.5k or so. was meant to last 2 days and he finished it in 2h

Astrobytes: lol, sounds like him

eulerscheZahl: https://www.hackerrank.com/contests/world-codesprint-12/leaderboard

eulerscheZahl: $1000 for the winner, I just checked

Astrobytes: Nice. I only know 2 names on that list lol

eulerscheZahl: https://www.hackerrank.com/contests/world-codesprint-10/leaderboard and another 2000

eulerscheZahl: which are the 2 names you know?

Astrobytes: Gennady and izban

eulerscheZahl: https://www.hackerrank.com/contests/university-codesprint-2/leaderboard and $2000 again

eulerscheZahl: https://www.hackerrank.com/contests/university-codesprint-3/leaderboard only 5th? a hoodie

eulerscheZahl: looks like he could make a living from those contests alone

Astrobytes: Maybe he does. Does he work somewhere that you know of?

eulerscheZahl: isn't he still a student? i don't know

Astrobytes: Hm, he might be still

eulerscheZahl: they also miss google hashcode on that list

BlaiseEbuth: Well. Gonna change my job and only do programming contest.

Astrobytes: I reckon he's far above $500k in earnings

eulerscheZahl: yes, sounds right

eulerscheZahl: also some topcoder single rounds that are not listed there

Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth: right? Nice work if you can get it!

BlaiseEbuth: More fun. More liberty. More money

eulerscheZahl: yet he even took the time to play some clashes on CG

BlaiseEbuth: No income tax

Default avatar.png Amloxg: hi

eulerscheZahl: found my tutor back from university days https://cphof.org/profile/topcoder:Vertigo1111

BlaiseEbuth: Still alive? :o

BlaiseEbuth: Ah no. Stop in 2013

Astrobytes: jeez, euler's not that old lol

eulerscheZahl: he was still there when I graduated in 2018. working on his PhD

eulerscheZahl: apparently he still is on the university, publishing papers and such

Astrobytes: On which topics?

Astrobytes: (if you know)

BlaiseEbuth: Toads

eulerscheZahl: lots of particle swarm optimization

Astrobytes: Interesting. I didn't know that PSO was so popular in research

BlaiseEbuth: :bee:

Astrobytes: :particle:

Astrobytes: meh

BlaiseEbuth: :sheep:

Astrobytes: :smirk:

Astrobytes: No more videos Blaise? :D

BlaiseEbuth: Took so much time to do... -_-

miszu: for c++ users, do you use visual studio for coding or the game ide?

Astrobytes: VS

miszu: which version?

BlaiseEbuth: vs code

Astrobytes: Visual Studio 2019

Default avatar.png Kudema: i couldn't do it in js

Default avatar.png Kudema: it's throwing 'Nothing' mpm

miszu: any plugins worth installing for visual studio?

miszu: to be more efficient?

Astrobytes: Maybe? Haven't checked recently tbh

Default avatar.png Kudema: prettier

miszu: you didn't use anything?

Astrobytes: No, it does most of what I need

miszu: oh ok thanks

BlaiseEbuth: :(

eulerscheZahl: VS Code for me as well

eulerscheZahl: and g++

BlaiseEbuth: +1

Astrobytes: I use vscode for everything non C++

Astrobytes: On linux tho, vscode + g++

69razer69: do anyone have an idea of effeciant way to solve "the river l" puzzle

eulerscheZahl: is that there you have to find where both numbers meet?

Astrobytes: yeah I think so

eulerscheZahl: you have 2 numbers a and b let's say a < b

Default avatar.png valnix: can somebody discord call with me and help me in python 3. im new so i want to learn some stuff

eulerscheZahl: so you need a larger a to find the point where they meet. so you compute the next higher value for a

eulerscheZahl: and you have a new (a,b)

eulerscheZahl: swap to make a the smaller again

eulerscheZahl: repeat until equal

Astrobytes: wonder if people will stream the 'contest'...

BlaiseEbuth: Sharing solutions ?

Astrobytes: Tongue in cheek comment

eulerscheZahl: but we want to encourage streaming, don't we?

BlaiseEbuth: :smirk:

Default avatar.png valnix: can somebody discord call with me and help me in python 3. im new so i want to learn some stuff

Astrobytes: No.

Default avatar.png valnix: oh okay

Default avatar.png valnix: sry

BlaiseEbuth: Call python.org he is nice

Astrobytes: Try discord

Schwase: is it your first language?

Default avatar.png valnix: yeah

Default avatar.png valnix: it is my first time getting into programming

BlaiseEbuth: Poor boy... :(

Schwase: then your previous message is misleading no offense lol

69razer69: gl

eulerscheZahl: at first everything will be new and confusing. totally normal

Schwase: go to W3school

Schwase: do everything

69razer69: i recommend "learn python the hard way" for begginers

Default avatar.png valnix: yea:( pretty hard ngl

Astrobytes: was that updated for python3?

69razer69: its a book

Astrobytes: online too

69razer69: no but as a bigginer it doesnt matter which python u are using

Astrobytes: I would argue otherwise

eulerscheZahl: some more resources: http://programming-motherfucker.com/become.html#Python

69razer69: khkhkh

69razer69: lol

Astrobytes: Hah!

69razer69: link !

eulerscheZahl: just make sure that you learn python3 and not python2 (outdated)

Astrobytes: That's what I said before.

eulerscheZahl: oh sorry

eulerscheZahl: was distracted finding the link

Default avatar.png valnix: i watched one guys video, like 4 hour youtube of python tutorials. i learned some stuff like print stuff out of how to build basic calculators, but not really ready for most of the stuff

eulerscheZahl: you will never feel ready by just watching

BlaiseEbuth: I'll argue that as a beginner python2 or 3 doesn't matter, as far as you use none.

eulerscheZahl: at one point you have to start writing

Astrobytes: Concentrate on variables, scope, logical operations and conditional flow, loops etc

69razer69: why i really dont see a major diffrance a begginer will notice between py3 and py2

eulerscheZahl: one is deprecated. and there are minor differences even in basic things like division

eulerscheZahl: what is 5/3 in py2 vs py3?

BlaiseEbuth: A mistake in both?

Astrobytes: oh wait this is an integer division thing

eulerscheZahl: yes. py3 returns a float while py2 says it's 1

eulerscheZahl: in py3 you can still do 5//3

Astrobytes: yeah

eulerscheZahl: for int division

eulerscheZahl: of course there are more differences. that's just one you'll come across very early

Astrobytes: printing

eulerscheZahl: print 'something' print('something')

eulerscheZahl: golfers hate this change

Astrobytes: lol

Astrobytes: Still amazes me how python has become what it is today

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: golfers?

Default avatar.png valnix: thats literally only thing i can do in python other from like input("something something")

Astrobytes: Back in the day, it was something that strange guy in the corner used when everyone else used perl

eulerscheZahl: code golf: you solve simple programming tasks. but with as few characters as possible

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Ohhhh

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: That sounds pretty neat

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: When you need to write a python script but only have 32kb storage lol

miszu: imagine doing competition with 32kb

eulerscheZahl: we have 100kb

eulerscheZahl: + 768MB RAM

miszu: doing we have like 1GB of mem we can use?

miszu: ok yeah

miszu: 100kb + 768MB = 768 MB

miszu: what's the 100kb for?

darkhorse64: for the code

miszu: so your code file is max 100kb?

Astrobytes: Yes.

miszu: ohhhh

miszu: so there is a limit how much lookup table you put

ZarthaxX: miszu you mean lookup table like hardcoded?

eulerscheZahl: opening book

ZarthaxX: yeah i meant that

eulerscheZahl: ZarthaxX friendly reminder: you still have to react with :sob: on the #annoucements channel on discord

ZarthaxX: ohhh right

BlaiseEbuth: Oh? I'll do that to

ZarthaxX: i was surprised by the amount of negative emojis

eulerscheZahl: we can make our own statistics that work in our favor

ZarthaxX: done

Astrobytes: Why surprised? I wasn't.

ZarthaxX: we are about to surpass the thumbs up

miszu: ZarthaxX yeah exactly

ZarthaxX: Astrobytes i mean i dont like it either, but maybe it was just my personal taste lol

ZarthaxX: miszu ah ok

miszu: is this chat more active than disc?

ZarthaxX: so then yeah, you are limited by 100kb to hardcode

miszu: I rarely use disc

eulerscheZahl: this chat is more active, yes

Astrobytes: also hi ZarthaxX :)

BlaiseEbuth: Only for dinosaurs

ZarthaxX: haii

Astrobytes: usually

ZarthaxX: howdyy

Astrobytes: I wonder what all the staff feel about the change of contest format

ZarthaxX: anxious maybe

Astrobytes: That for sure, being a new thing yeah

ZarthaxX: emojis are not a good sign :D

eulerscheZahl: same. i have a feeling that thibaud has to sell soemthing to use that he himself doesn't fully stand behind

ZarthaxX: they are probably betting for new people coming in from this

Astrobytes: Participation will show I guess

BlaiseEbuth: They're all happy! And will stay happy until they change of job

eulerscheZahl: at least replacing the contest with it

Astrobytes: eulerscheZahl: yes I get that feeling

ZarthaxX: BlaiseEbuth too perfect to be real :D


eulerscheZahl: i also wonder about jupoulton, who mostly coded the contests

BlaiseEbuth: Already fired

Astrobytes: Maybe he works a lot on Escapes now, who knows

ZarthaxX: he is working in the escape SDK as we speak :D

Astrobytes: heh heh

eulerscheZahl: we are programmers, even simple UI is challenging for us

eulerscheZahl: those escape rooms are much more about visuals

Astrobytes: True

ZarthaxX: i agree 10%

Astrobytes: Still, I imagine a lot of it is JS gluing it all together

ZarthaxX: 100000*

ZarthaxX: visuals are hard :/

Astrobytes: euler is a fantastic artist

BlaiseEbuth: Your feelings about the cm was just because he have to sell (do) something...

BlaiseEbuth: :speak_no_evil:

ZarthaxX: like bob ross Astrobytes

ZarthaxX: toad ross

eulerscheZahl: i feel trolled

Astrobytes: Toad Ross! :rofl:

Astrobytes: Little Happy Trees

Astrobytes: :tree:

Astrobytes: ffs

ZarthaxX: LOL

Astrobytes: :palm_tree:

eulerscheZahl: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/eulerscheZahl/TryAngle-Catch/master/src/main/resources/view/assets/background.png I did this one all by myself

eulerscheZahl: background for tryangle catch, true masterpiece

eulerscheZahl: I also generated that with code

Astrobytes: that's pretty decent, not quite as good as your initial Tower Dereference art though :heart_eyes_cat:

ZarthaxX: i see that quite blurry huh

eulerscheZahl: i liked the attackers at my initial TD

eulerscheZahl: the angry face

Astrobytes: Yeah!

Astrobytes: :D

eulerscheZahl: actually I wanted to draw a tower. then i made a bad mouse movement and suddenly it looked like a face :D

eulerscheZahl: not even joking

ZarthaxX: :rofl:

eulerscheZahl: first thought: hey cool, I have an attacker now. 2nd thought: damn, I still need a tower

Astrobytes: You never know at which moment artistic genius will strike

struct: if you want to hardcode the opening you should pick amazons

struct: Book should be easy

jacek: oO

eulerscheZahl: not c4?

struct: never tried c4

jacek: opening book works well in onitama, hence the result i got

Astrobytes: c4 is too explosive for an opening book...

struct: meanwhile you probably cant book even depth 2 on amazons

Astrobytes: one day smits will find a way, he plays the long game

jacek: smits: "hold my beer"

Astrobytes: right :)

Astrobytes: euler: bedtime

Astrobytes: lol he went already :older_man:

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: What book are we talking about? 🤔

struct: opening books

struct: similar to what chess engines use

Astrobytes: https://www.chessprogramming.org/Opening_Book

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Ahhhhh

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: I'm learning so much about the world just watching chat lol

EricMoret: lmao

struct: There is also end game books

miszu: and also end game solver up to 7 pieces or so

jacek: 8 pieces endtables seem to be within reach for todays supercomputers and petabytes ssd

Astrobytes: what a time to be alive :tada:

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Need to rob bezos to afford that much storage and processing power, though ;-;

XeroOl: (

XeroOl: oops it keeps focusing the chat window

XeroOl: my bad

Astrobytes: don't forget your ?disableChat

XeroOl: yeah

XeroOl: I feel like the chat would be fine if it didn't grab focus every time it disconnects and refreshes

XeroOl: it literally pulls the cursor from the code into the chat

BlaiseEbuth: XeroOl https://greasyfork.org/fr/scripts/425707-cgunchat

Astrobytes: Yeah, it's a touch annoying. Does it still do it if you just minimise the chat with the arrow?

BlaiseEbuth: No chat no problem

XeroOl: I don't think so, no

struct: your chat keep disconecting?

Astrobytes: well, the above 3 solutions should work

EricMoret: are ZacLiew or TimberStalker here ?

XeroOl: yeah, every once in a while it disconnects and reconnects

struct: hm

struct: That also happens in my other account

struct: but never on this one

struct: Its so strange

Astrobytes: That is peculiar

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: I wanna have a go at the brainfuck interpreter challenge but I haven't built an interpreter before and it's a bit intimidating

BlaiseEbuth: \o/

XeroOl: does python have tree sets?

Astrobytes: Just go for it LagunaElectric

XeroOl: I know what data structure I want, but I don't know what it's called in python

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Xero if in doubt, implement it :D

XeroOl: yeah but this is python

BlaiseEbuth: Implement it in c

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: ^ then import lol

BlaiseEbuth: :p

Astrobytes: You can do basic trees with dictionaries and lists (or sets maybe?)

XeroOl: it doesn't really need to be a tree

Astrobytes: Or just encapsulate it in a class

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: yea, maybe a list of dicts?

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: or a dict of dicts!

XeroOl: I really just want O(n*log(n)) insertion + O(n*log(n)) "if this were inserted, what would it's index be"

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: I should really learn about big O

AllYourTrees: whats a tree set

miszu: Big Oh is easy concept

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: ^

AllYourTrees: does it have a name in another language you know?

XeroOl: Java has it as TreeSet

AllYourTrees: oh so just a set?

XeroOl: not quite

XeroOl: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/TreeSet.html#lower(E)

XeroOl: specifically this method isn't something that a regular set has

AllYourTrees: ahh yeah i don't think python has anything like that built in

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Implement it, bb :)

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: Then you can have it do whatever you like!

XeroOl: there is no reason to implement it here

AllYourTrees: maybe heapq? https://docs.python.org/3/library/heapq.html

AllYourTrees: that just gives you the datastructure though, you'd still need to walk it yourself for the lower method

XeroOl: well heaps can find the smallest with log(n)

XeroOl: but not like an arbitrary size binary search

XeroOl: maybe I can get away with just a heap here

XeroOl: I dunno

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: I believe in you :D

BlaiseEbuth: I don't. Let's hope Laguna support will be enough...

Astrobytes: Experiment, you'll learn along the way anyway

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: My support doesn't always work, but it does help :)

XeroOl: it's just that re-implementing a red-black tree isn't worth my time

XeroOl: I might as well just solve this in Java lol

BlaiseEbuth: :scream:

XeroOl: heapq is definitely new to me

Default avatar.png LagunaElectric: ;-;

XeroOl: I will try to remember that

AllYourTrees: :tada:

AllYourTrees: jacek how many sims per turn do you use during training for NN+MCTS?

XeroOl: I feel like I should just read through every single valid python import one by one

Astrobytes: implementing anything in anything is usually worth your time if you want to get to know the language

Astrobytes: (within reason ofc)

AllYourTrees: Xero maybe bisect library useful for you? https://docs.python.org/3/library/bisect.html

AllYourTrees: they have example code for " 'Find rightmost value less than or equal to x':

XeroOl: oooooo

XeroOl: it's not quite O(logn) for insertion, but that looks super useful

Default avatar.png carl-h: hey

Default avatar.png carl-h: where can i contact owner of the website?

Default avatar.png JBM: find the contact tab

Default avatar.png carl-h: the community manager is horrid and bias towards moderators.

Default avatar.png carl-h: punishes them for doing things he doesn't like even if it isn't against the rules

Default avatar.png JBM: power corrupts, news at 11

Default avatar.png carl-h: wym?

miszu: like what?

Default avatar.png carl-h: are you asking me?

miszu: yes

Default avatar.png carl-h: join general vc on their discord ill screen share and show you

Default avatar.png carl-h: just to verify as proof

Default avatar.png carl-h: if you cannot that is okay i will just explain but it'll take a bit

miszu: I don't see general_vc

Default avatar.png carl-h: im in it currently

Default avatar.png carl-h: in the discord

miszu: I am on my phone so can't access voice

Default avatar.png carl-h: its labeled general under VOICE CHANNELS

Default avatar.png carl-h: my phone is able to it could be a bug

Default avatar.png carl-h: drop your discord

Default avatar.png carl-h: or i can

Astrobytes: you again

Astrobytes: Banned. See discord for details

miszu: lol what happened?

**Illedan slaps carl-h around a bit with a large fishbot

Illedan: *around a lot

ipsissimus: guys help

ipsissimus: im addicted to code clash

b1gfreakn: as long as it's not reverse mode

darkhorse64: delete your account

ipsissimus: i literally hate reverse questions

ipsissimus: takes me 12 mins to figure it out

ipsissimus: cuz i have a smooth aerodynamic brain

ipsissimus: no gross wrinkles

b1gfreakn: they're awful and so damn vague. they leave me feeling stupid and i don't feel like they help me hone coding skills

ipsissimus: no wrinkle = no think

ipsissimus: no think = no sad

b1gfreakn: the number-based ones anyway.

ipsissimus: always that pesky 4th test case

ipsissimus: whats this??

ipsissimus: first place for the first time ever?

ipsissimus: nani?

b1gfreakn: nice

b1gfreakn: feels good.

Astrobytes: Do puzzles, multis or optims instead

Manjius: if i do this in python: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fd15caec-fc10-401c-83e2-f33d5803ac27

Manjius: oh wtf

Schwase: i thought i kind of understood python until i just found out that you can assign basic operations like "int" to a single character. Mind blown

Manjius: im gonna test it lets see

Manjius: it does, wtf

Manjius: its a reference not a copy

ZarthaxX: int is just a function

ZarthaxX: you can assign functions to variables and use the variables as functions

ZarthaxX: they just point to the function you assigned them

ZarthaxX: no black magic there

Wontonimo: anyone here?

miszu: hey

mr.bossman: no

ZarthaxX: ye

Default avatar.png DarknessR: Hmm

Wontonimo: hey miszu, it's been a while

Wontonimo: how are you?

Wontonimo: hey ZarthaxX :wave:

Wontonimo: (/*-*)/ Zarthax \(*-*\)

Astrobytes: I'm here, but I'm really gone I'm tired and going to bed, babyyy

Wontonimo: bye bye Astro!

Thorcode: Wontonimo how could you go to bed so late?

Wontonimo: i'm not going to bed

Wontonimo: it's only 8:45pm here

Wontonimo: anyone working on a bot battle or puzzle that they'd like to talk about?

miszu: I am doing the fall challenge 2020

miszu: rewriting it

miszu: trying to do sims

Wontonimo: oh cool

miszu: reading all the small rules so that my state is correct

Wontonimo: I"ve only achieve wood 1 in FC2020

Wontonimo: haven't written a sim yet

miszu: yeah lots of edge cases to figure out

Wontonimo: oh nice, you are in silver and in the top 25% overall

miszu: but I was doing stupid thing

miszu: nothing very smart

Wontonimo: what search are you using?

Wontonimo: seems like beam, bfs, dfs, minimax, and mcts would all be reasonable

miszu: I will try to use the beam search

miszu: which is a special case of bfs

miszu: dfs makes no sense

Wontonimo: wdym dfs makes no sense?

miszu: because you use heuristics to chose your next node to explore

Wontonimo: you could still use dfs, and some heuristics could be to prune (to get deeper) and some heuristics could be for scoring

miszu: but that's not dfs anymore :) it becomes beam search

Wontonimo: if there is no queue then it is dfs. you need a queue for beam

miszu: and it feels like the deeper you go, the less weight it will have

miszu: because there are lots of unknown

struct: beam is considered bfs?

struct: dfs*

Wontonimo: dfs uses FIFO, bfs uses FILO, beam uses sorted queue

miszu: if we talk vanilla

Wontonimo: sorry dfs is FILO

miszu: I am not vanilla

Wontonimo: bfs is FIFO

miszu: yes correct

Wontonimo: how long did it take you to write the sim ? i'm wondering if I want to jump in

miszu: i haven't start it yet

miszu: I am still writing the actions for my model

Wontonimo: oh, you got to silver without a sim!

miszu: yeah

Wontonimo: hats off

miszu: so I did ctrl A + del and doing it the correct way

miszu: getting out of silver you need a good sims

miszu: thanks

miszu: usually you can get silver without sims

struct: which game?

miszu: the witch game

struct: I had to sim that one

struct: first I had MC which reached silver I think

struct: then I switched to beam search

Wontonimo: seems like a beam problem

Wontonimo: there are so many rules for this sim

miszu: yeah I know

miszu: lots of corner cases

Wontonimo: how long did it take you to write the sim struct?

struct: like 1 day

struct: But I ignored enemy

Wontonimo: seems reasonable

Wontonimo: got you to legend

struct: only after the contest ended

struct: Also my beam search wasnt correct

struct: Every depth I would count all the moves that originated that state

struct: an

struct: and then at the end I chose the most present one

miszu: coding the sims sounds the fun part

miszu: writing the engine and all the rules is the not-so-fun part

Wontonimo: the rules and edge cases is what we normally call the "simulation"

the search, like mcts or beam, we usually call it "the search"

liboy129: wsp

Wontonimo: talking about code

Wontonimo: have you tried this contribution ? https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/894199f1812b7f93203e7db5a30b5ff51dbafb

magus2: looks interesting

Wontonimo: since all the legal moves are provided, it is pretty easy to make a random bot

Wontonimo: or a heuristic value for each move and just pick the valid move that has the best heuristic score

liboy129: damn that was fun

miszu: I smell MCTS on steroid