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ProCoder03: ohhh

ProCoder03: Thank westicles !!! wasn't able to see the above messages :sweat_smile:

Default avatar.png SANITOR: yoop

Tanvir: Can anybody tell what is score in clash of code and how does it calculate? N.b: not asking for cp

hinammmm: iam a hacker, give me 1000$ or i will hack ủ fb

ProCoder03: bruuhhh yet another scammer :rolling_eyes:

hinammmm: jkd bro

hinammmm: it funny right

Zenoscave: Westicles.

Zenoscave: unpublishing possible? Tired of comments

Westicles: Hey, not sure what you mean...

Default avatar.png Vovanus: Hi

Default avatar.png Vovanus: !

derjack: oh my https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/24/wildfires-near-russias-nuclear-research-center-spark-state-of-emergency-a74878

martinpapa69: huge :fireworks: incoming

Default avatar.png Lachulence: among us

derjack: interesting~ https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/in-australia-cane-toads-turn-to-cannibalism/

Westicles: They should put the toads into lockdown, that'll fix everything

martinpapa69: cannibalscheZahl

Default avatar.png Naknik: Where do I organize private CoCs?

Default avatar.png Naknik: nvm

Default avatar.png UglierPanda: Hey guys, im doing the chuck norris puzzle. But converting the % to ascii, i lose the first zero;s. Im using Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes(); Should i do it differntly?

Uljahn: you should use 7-bit binary, so you have to find a way to preserve leading zeros or to fill in them later

Default avatar.png UglierPanda: just found it, PadLeft thanks!:grimacing:

Default avatar.png PresidentZeus: how do I debug code with JS?

BlaiseEbuth: Drop your code

Default avatar.png PresidentZeus: -_-

Default avatar.png PresidentZeus: like in-game, here

xspeedasx: iirc -console.err

jdsigg: President Zeus, can always copy-paste it into the browser dev environment :)

Default avatar.png sozako: hi

derjack: this is what you get for searching breakthrough papers https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2019/02/breakthrough-research-reveals-parachutes-dont-prevent-death-when-jumping-from-a-plane/

Default avatar.png sozako: brr

QuickMathzs: no u

Default avatar.png FeelItDude: i got wrong ans for my c

Default avatar.png FeelItDude: ++ code dont know why it showing correct in my pc but wrong ans in one of the coc problem

Panavia_tornado: may be index error

LittleFlea: hello world

Wontonimo: :wave:

LittleFlea: hey there fellow canadian

Wontonimo: ehh

Default avatar.png Lekrkutj: how do i know what the binary code for the characters are in Chuck Norris

Wontonimo: characters are stored in binary in the computer

Wontonimo: what lang are you using Lekrkutj ?

Default avatar.png Lekrkutj: javascript

Wontonimo: google : get ordinal of character in javascript

Default avatar.png AhmedPro: helllllllllllllllllllll

Default avatar.png Lekrkutj: thanks Wontonimo

Mr_PhM: hi

Default avatar.png Kepe55: I'm having a hard time figuring out the folding-a-note puzzle

XcaliberD: hello

Default avatar.png Kepe55: Any good advice?

PatrickMcGinnisII: Wontonimo tx for the easy XP

Wontonimo: np

Wontonimo: i forget what it was for?

PatrickMcGinnisII: FAX machine

Wontonimo: haha

Wontonimo: yeah, i made that a little too easy :(

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: omg, there a chat here haha

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: Hi guys

Wontonimo: :wave:

Illedan: Hi

Wontonimo: welcome to chat GuiPearceProgrammer

Wontonimo: what's your fav programming language ?

Wontonimo: PatrickMcGinnisII I hope you at least tried to solve fax machine in something other than your primary language

PatrickMcGinnisII: Wontonimo well that's a loaded question, as far as CG is concerned I use PHP ... but that's not my primary lang. ;)

PatrickMcGinnisII: what is the contribute lang?

PatrickMcGinnisII: is PY your primary?

PatrickMcGinnisII: oh he's gone

Wontonimo: yeah, for now py is my primary

Wontonimo: java used to be

PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm an old man, I've seen and used all the classic langs. I use PY for plugins. C for number crunching, Java for interactive graphics, php for web. but I actually hate PY. *shrug*

PatrickMcGinnisII: I'll redo all the puzzles I've done in php in java one of these days

Default avatar.png JBM: we all know that date is aliased to never

PatrickMcGinnisII: darnit, I gotta go paint. tx again for the quickie programming fix

PatrickMcGinnisII: lol JBM, when's the next contest ... maybe i'll drop some C++. ;)

PatrickMcGinnisII: glhf

jacek: huh

martinpapa69: mcts node with multiple parents? not a problem anymore :smirk:

AllYourTrees: :eyes:

AllYourTrees: what did you do

martinpapa69: i dont make a duplicate of transpositions anymore, i just link them from the node storage

AllYourTrees: niceeee

martinpapa69: ty

AllYourTrees: how much did it strength things?

martinpapa69: no idea. submit is in progress

AllYourTrees: oware?

martinpapa69: c4

AllYourTrees: NICE

martinpapa69: my last version was rank20

AllYourTrees: GL

jacek: oh my

jacek: how do you backpropagate the transpositions though

martinpapa69: on my node i dont have a list of nodes

martinpapa69: but a list of edges

martinpapa69: so my node dont have a children node list, but a children edge list

martinpapa69: every edge has its own visits, q values

martinpapa69: and the pointer to the node, which the edge leads to

AllYourTrees: jacek do you train your NN with solver turned on?

AllYourTrees: like when it plays games to gather data, does it have solver turned on

jacek: of course

martinpapa69: does you solver mess up your training ?

jacek: no

martinpapa69: *AllYourTrees

AllYourTrees: mine doesn't either

AllYourTrees: do you continue a game once root is solved? or stop it

martinpapa69: ah, ok. i thought you have problem with that.

jacek: stop it

AllYourTrees: nah im always tryna gather more info on what other NN ppl are doing :eyes:

AllYourTrees: :spy:

jacek: hmm new play on oware. another NN?

jacek: he appeared after that oware endgames article :thinking:

AllYourTrees: oh J nice you're #2 impressive

jacek: i havent submitted in long time

AllYourTrees: even more impressive then

Default avatar.png Kepe55: Are you top 200 guys ever stuck? What do you do in that case?

martinpapa69: call my stepbro

jacek: stuck where?

AllYourTrees: stuck in what sense? like can't program something?

AllYourTrees: or don't have any idas

Default avatar.png Kepe55: when something seems so complex that you can't figure out how to do it

Astrobytes: Learn how to do it

jacek: split into simpler parts

AllYourTrees: ^

RoboStac: troll chat until someone says something useful and then steal it

AllYourTrees: :spy:

Astrobytes: RoboStac: :rofl:

AllYourTrees: you've been caught RoboStac now you must reveal one secret

AllYourTrees: :cop:

RoboStac: are there any secrets left to reveal? :)

AllYourTrees: :scream:

Default avatar.png Kepe55: Reveal how to become Legend in algorithms :laughing:

jacek: oO

RoboStac: to join in the slightly earlier discussion I don't have solver in training, didn't want to consider how to handle training policy for solved states

AllYourTrees: interesting

Astrobytes: Seems messy.

RoboStac: I guess it'd just be ignoring visits and setting 0 for lost and 1 for solved wins

jacek: i dont use policy. no mess. [solved]

AllYourTrees: yeah solved wins i think makes sense

AllYourTrees: i think it does get messy, like when you have some solved children and some unsolved

RoboStac: the worry I had was if there was a solved state similar to a unsolved one that made the policy values extreme

AllYourTrees: hmm yeah didn't consider that

martinpapa69: ye i had problems with that. my crossentropy loss went nan, because of low-visit count solved nodes. was tough to figure out where the nan came from

AllYourTrees: had that same issue, except pytorch for some reason didn't propagate nans, so i never saw nans even though i was dividing by zero :scream:

RoboStac: yeah, I use -1 visits for unvisited nodes and if the root ended with some unvisited children it broke the loss completely

martinpapa69: ye, variables with multiple use always cause trouble :D

TimothyAlexisVass: Perl, JavaScript and Python in Clash... Do I need to learn Ruby? :/

TacticalShroom: yes

michaellan: I don't get intuitively how NN helps with C4 policy

michaellan: isnt C4 a game with "instant" wrong moves, the equivalent of hanging a queen in chess? or no

TimothyAlexisVass: What's the shortest way to get 2 ints from input which are space separated? Anything shorter than this? x,y=[int(i)for i in input().split()]

TimothyAlexisVass: ...

HideInInspector: short cut to [PLAY ALL TESTCASES] ?

michaellan: x,y=map(int,input().split())

TimothyAlexisVass: Thank you xxd

TimothyAlexisVass: is there a shorter way to print an int x in python than str(x) ?

Default avatar.png Klephto: print(x)?

Feddas: Anyone done Coders Strike Back? Does BOOST amplify your current speed or does it immediately set it to some speed?

Default avatar.png BigFishOutOfWater: Since you only get 1 BOOST I haven't bothered to figure that out. I just use it in a situation where either way would be fine.

Feddas: Thanks BigFish. Probably do need to focus on my turning speed more instead of when to BOOST.

RoboStac: it gives you 650 thrust (instead of the usual 100max) for one turn

_Royale: martinpapa69: nice I did the the transpositions like you do, at least one thing that should not be broken then :-D

Feddas: RoboStac: thanks!

michaellan: bob

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: hi guys

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: someone? I need a little help hehe

Default avatar.png Link_jon: ?

Default avatar.png Link_jon: i probably cant help much as i really am only decent with lua... a scripting language.. and im not good with it... erm. eh

Default avatar.png Link_jon: maybe ill have an idea though

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: no problem haha

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: I'm new here

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: and i'm trying undestand this plataform

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: So, do you know how works the inputs?

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: I need input some value in my inputs or I is it automatic?

Default avatar.png borrel: you should read your inputs into lua

Default avatar.png borrel: local line = io.read()

Default avatar.png borrel: the example code sould help

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: ok, I thought I need insert value manually

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: Thanks

Default avatar.png borrel: only when you want to run your script locally

Default avatar.png borrel: this buffer is called STDIN all programs have it

Default avatar.png borrel: run `lua script.lua < input.txt` to run locallly

Default avatar.png GuiPearceProgrammer: oh right, thanks for the tip

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Default avatar.png ainem: địt mẹ mày

Default avatar.png ainem: cặc

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Default avatar.png emergenitro: Hellooo

Default avatar.png NeonDoe: Hi :wave: