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**Mr.Pepper woke up

**Smelty goes to sleep :sleeping:

Puru299792458: one doubt in bender

Puru299792458: is it a good idea to use hack when searching for loops ?

Puru299792458: or use a boolean visited array

Mr.Pepper: i got problem that test cases didn't shown when i was in reverse

Mr.Pepper: i refreshed multiple times

Smelty: that's weird

Westicles: Perhaps the Lord Thy God is displeased with you and/or your clashing

Default avatar.png ThornFlynt: Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: Hi guys, on the batman exercice on java i try to recognize the bombDir with "if (bombDir == "UR") {System.err.println("test");}" but it never works do you know why ?

Mr.Pepper: bombdir != UR :p

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: what ? when i print bombDir i got UR

Mr.Pepper: oh

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: well for the second test

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: for the first test i got DR but it didn't work either

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: i tried adding spaces before and after UR but still the same result

Mr.Pepper: :|

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: can you pls try to see if it's a bug from the site ?

korean_bull: Hi

korean_bull: I'm Korean Bull

Mr.Pepper: :red_circle:

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: hi

Default avatar.png TiniMounier: so it was a bug from the website ... it perfectly works with JS

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692764c9cb257476014fc333764db1c3970dbd

DCoderOP: join clash

Stormalix: #clash

Default avatar.png hosman: mowazzem share code

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/16927898c2f40dc3c25150ab7f665c86a2dc7c1

DCoderOP: join fast plz

Thyl: hi

Mr.Pepper: hey DcodeorOP use #clash

Default avatar.png program_lover: hi

Mr.Pepper: hi

BoomFlight: hi

Default avatar.png program_lover: guys i want to learn programming but i am very Confused

Default avatar.png program_lover: hello?!!!

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692810ce483b66dab06049db1e07ef8c2856df

DCoderOP: join clash fast

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: BooooM

DCoderOP: @pogram_lover go on youtube man

DCoderOP: CodeWithharry is best

Mr.Pepper: go on clash man

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: and on u tube subs to Dcuber

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: :smiley:

DCoderOP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV6qn6kKTkKID03Adnfv3GQ

Mr.Pepper: there is rubiks cube puzzle try to solve :p

Mr.Pepper: with programming

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: yeeea

BoomFlight: Hi Darklord1234

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: hii BoomFight

DCoderOP: guys join clash fast

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692810ce483b66dab06049db1e07ef8c2856df

DCoderOP: 1 min left

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: comeon

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: Anyone Ethical Hacker here??

DCoderOP: I know one who hacked chalkpad

BoomFlight: really?

ANJACE_Z: Hlo guyz

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: yah

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692828c103372a18fcff225142d2dd203833e8

DCoderOP: another clash

ANJACE_Z: joined

DCoderOP: thank you

DCoderOP: starting soon

DCoderOP: let more coders join

Coder_prabhat: ok

BoomFlight: The selected clash is no longer valid. Do you want to join another clash of the same type?

BoomFlight: I can't join.

DCoderOP: starting in 2 minutes

Mr.Pepper: "/join clash"

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692828c103372a18fcff225142d2dd203833e8

DCoderOP: this is the link

ANJACE_Z: 1:30 min

DCoderOP: hm

BoomFlight: ok finished already

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1692839d361faf123dfadf3fa98ebbd008acdc3

DCoderOP: join now

DCoderOP: new clash

**Mr.Pepper slaps around a bit with a large fishbot

DCoderOP: what ?

DCoderOP: #clash

BoomFlight: Why I must login again everytime when I click your link, anyone to do same with me?

BoomFlight: Every body in this link from India all , isn't it?

ANJACE_Z: mrpepper

Cure: coc

ANJACE_Z: can anyone explain the pproblem

Mr.Pepper: count the uppercase and lowercase print their absolute difference

BoomFlight: super

DCoderOP: what as absolute ?

DCoderOP: can you explain in java

DCoderOP: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/169287340d96957752f47775b3b8379e2a64729

DCoderOP: #clash

DCoderOP: join

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: yee

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: Dcode if i m not wrong u r the famous u tuber?

Mr.Pepper: not like that paste link in #clash

Default avatar.png Darklord1234: but why Pepper

DCoderOP: where is #clash ?

Mr.Pepper: click on it

DCoderOP: ok found it

Mr.Pepper: nice

DCoderOP: u iz Piro

DCoderOP: me iz nooob

BoomFlight: Let's join again , I must to rite "Songkran festival" in Thailand. see u again bro

Mr.Pepper: :thumbsup:

Cr0z: can i join guys :p

DCoderOP: you are already in

Cr0z: not problem with it?

DCoderOP: Op CrOz

DCoderOP: Starting new

DCoderOP: #clash

Default avatar.png Infernalryo07: is there a way to view historic clash of code games? I haven't finished the game 100% and now it's bugging me I can't find it!

DCoderOP: go to #clash and join the las for now

Mr.Pepper: Infernalryo07 click one notification icon, and click show read

Default avatar.png DarkLord__28: :neutral_face:

DCoderOP: chaliye shuru karte hai

Default avatar.png DarkLord__28: :smirk:

NicholasGew: Hi

Mr.Pepper: hey

Cr0z: hi

Uljahn: hey

Louis.: hii

Mr.Pepper: is there any way to run test cases by keyboard :p any shortcut

Louis.: i think Ctrl+Enter

Louis.: Mr.Pepper

Mr.Pepper: :) nice

Mr.Pepper: tnx

Mr.Pepper: <3

Louis.: :smile:

Mr.Pepper: thanks found that ctrl + shift + enter run every test cases

Louis.: yeah

Louis.: you are right

Louis.: Mr.Pepper

derjack: good noon

MSmits: hey derjack

MSmits: I made your ntuple thingy work, understand all the code now. Cool stuff

derjack: oO

MSmits: it's not that far from a nn

derjack: its more like perceptron really

MSmits: i think i can convert it easily to doing what the xor thing does

MSmits: the xor nn

MSmits: i wonder if it needs less weights than the ntuple

MSmits: or more

MSmits: I am guessing it needs more, because the ntuple structure makes use of the game rules

MSmits: this information needs to be baked into the network somehow, which may make it use more weights

derjack: ttt is quite hard for simple mlp network

MSmits: why is that?

derjack: in comparison to ntuple. dunno, it requires more hidden units and/or layer than i anticipated

MSmits: well, you want it to predict the game result for every possible board layout. You're expecting perfect play

MSmits: when you're doing it for oware you dont expect perfect play

MSmits: so the bar is higher for simpler games

derjack: could be

MSmits: did you mess around with function approximation? I had a thought earlier that you could easily define some complicated math function, generate a bunch of random x and make a network to predict it. That also seems like a fun learning exercise

MSmits: it's very close to the xor

derjack: i didnt

MSmits: ah ok, i do a lot of trendline fitting in excel at work for when students to physics experiments. I think I could do the same thing with a NN

MSmits: you can either fit the whole function with hundreds of weights, or pick a few parameters, say for a linear function

MSmits: the magic is really in the backpropagation, you can use that for anything

derjack: hmm but how to approximate function. nn output is sigmoid or tanh

derjack: or something else?

MSmits: hmm can you use the bias?

MSmits: it's a good question

MSmits: relu wont work

derjack: relu only for hidden

MSmits: is that always the case?

MSmits: do people use relu only for hidden layers?

derjack: dunno. but i dont see much sense using relu for output

Louis.: hi

Louis.: derjack

MSmits: well the idea is to use relu to prevent multiplication making stuff go to zero, so i guess having 1 layer use sigmoid and the rest relu seems fine

derjack: hello Louis.

Louis.: whatsup

MSmits: the positive vertical direction

derjack: hmm you can use linear (no activation at all) in the output

MSmits: you mean linear in the output and something else in a hidden layer?

MSmits: relu seems more suited for discrete functions

derjack: yes

MSmits: sounds good

derjack: you played with the nn playground. there is that spiral example

MSmits: yeah

MSmits: does it have a linear combination at the end? I dont remember

derjack: you can use many hidden layers. or less hidden layers and use x^2 and y^2 as input

derjack: i see n-tuple as adding more inputs

MSmits: yeah thats what my students experiment with

MSmits: right, if you structure the input, you do some of the "thinking" for the nn, so its job becomes easier

derjack: exactly

MSmits: thats why i dont believe its a good idea to just have a completely fixed framework where you just "plug in" a game

MSmits: you need to do some thinking, make it easier. You will need a smaller network. Better use of resources

MSmits: i guess if you have unlimited resources like those azero people, it doesnt matter much, but here on CG it does, I think

derjack: well their goal is to make 'general' ai

MSmits: yeah

MSmits: what I am saying is that should not be the goal when you're playing around on CG :)

MSmits: though some games are similar, so you can reuse much i guess

struct: Hello MSmits

struct: and jacek

derjack: who?

struct: derjack*

Mr.Pepper: both them are from poland

Mr.Pepper: : p

multi-yt76: hi

MSmits: hi

MSmits: Mr.Pepper I think they even live very near eachother

Mr.Pepper: wow

MSmits: weren't you in jacek's house the other day derjack?

derjack: oO

MSmits: sorry, i mean his pony barn, obviously

derjack: stop horsing around

AntiSquid: now you jumped the horse

derjack: fix your chess bot

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: ok so how do i do minmax in connect 4 challenge im lost

struct: do you already know minmax?

MSmits: you could count the number of ways you can complete 4 in a row with the current setup. As an evaluation function

MSmits: say you have 2 in a row somewhere. If it is still possible to add 2 more to get 4, then that's 1

MSmits: anyways, that's just an idea, i use mcts myself

derjack: you mean puzzle or game

MSmits: there's plenty of gith bots for C4 i bet

MSmits: look for an eval there

struct: http://blog.gamesolver.org/

MSmits: or that

MSmits: gtg ttyl

struct: cya

Louis.: salut or hii

Default avatar.png Olitoni: gamer

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: sorry im back yes i know min max just dont know how to implement it in this case

PotatoDev33: yes

KiwiTae: #clash

Default avatar.png Olitoni: #clash gaming

Coder_prabhat: #clash

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/connect-4 can someone help with this please

mybk: Why codingame is too slow ? codingame is the only website that takes 5 min to load ! this is annoying

Kirbiby: so true

multii: lol

mybk: is it the same problem with everybody ?

Kirbiby: I guess

Kirbiby: At least me and you :p

Default avatar.png ErrorRazor: Loading pages doesn't take long for me, only submitting code

mybk: hhh I hope they do something in the future

mybk: really ?

Default avatar.png ErrorRazor: Yeah pages load as fast as any other website

Default avatar.png ErrorRazor: Oh, not all pages apparently

BoomFlight: ok

struct: Which page takes 5 minutes to load?

Jumpmaster: Everything loads normal for me too

Kirbiby: Coc Page is very long to load

Kirbiby: *can* be

Mr.Pepper: when u sumbit it is slow to show the score and if i refresh it becomes good but i will lost the chat with that coc

mybk: if I open new codingame page (any page) it's too slow to load, but if I navigate from an opened page it's okay, I usually open multiple CG pages

Uljahn: could be mitm or dns issues

Default avatar.png 2Tough4U: whatsup

Default avatar.png 2Tough4U: is this realtime?

Mr.Pepper: :rolling_eyes: hey

T.H.: idk which AI challenge to start i'm too lazy

struct: Which type of games do you like T.H.?

struct: There are plenty of good choices

T.H.: i want csb 2

struct: a new csb?

T.H.: i havent touched csb for a year i don't think i can optimize my placement more without refactoring

struct: Have you tried smitsimax on it?

struct: csb, fb and bit runner are the only physics games I think

pb4: T.H. : CSB2 is Bit Runner

pb4: or Fantastic Bits

T.H.: i'm already 54th in fantastic bits

T.H.: 57th in csb

T.H.: i need to try smitsimax i guess

pb4: or Bit Runner :)

T.H.: by bit runner u mean bit runner 2048? only thing i can find

struct: after I finish csb I probably will revisit fb and bit runner

struct: yes T.H.

struct: Game made by pb 4 and illeda n

pb4: Yes T.H.

T.H.: pog

Astrobytes: sometime in the next 4 years then struct? ;)

struct: I see you are optimistic :D

Astrobytes: :rofl:

struct: People use GA on fb right?

Astrobytes: I think so

Default avatar.png the-mysterious: How do you become a moderator

Default avatar.png the-mysterious: ?

T.H.: by not asking for it

Default avatar.png actualCoderTrevor: :laughing:

Default avatar.png the-mysterious: :joy:

Default avatar.png ALPHADEVIL: fuck off guys

eulerscheZahl: warning or kick? :thinking:

eulerscheZahl: you are definitely close to the kick

jacek: isnt kick a warning?

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/contribute---help/chat-moderation

eulerscheZahl: Warning, Kick, Ban: notify the abuser with a public warning first, then kick if necessary, then ban if necessary

eulerscheZahl: step 1 was just taken

BlaiseEbuth: Others would just have banned him...

struct: 50/50

Smelty: ^^

BlaiseEbuth: Toad is such a kind amphiban...

Marchete: first warning, toad

eulerscheZahl: i don't make the rules, I only enforce them. And rules say "warning first"

eulerscheZahl: And they say "no clash is too easy" which I why I refuse to enforce those rules anymore

BlaiseEbuth: Rules are like hearts, they're made to be broken.

eulerscheZahl: you mean like crackers

BlaiseEbuth: Na

eulerscheZahl: the Christmas crackers, not the cookies

Mr.Pepper: :rofl:

eulerscheZahl: or like Windows

Smelty: :rofl:

BlaiseEbuth: Hmm, next time I'll include an exhaustive list of breakable things

Smelty: drinking glasses, plates,

BlaiseEbuth: bones, trust, faces...

Smelty: artwork, lampshades, wine bottles,

Smelty: "bones" hOl up

eulerscheZahl: i thought i found such a list, now i'm disappointed :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_Things

Smelty: rip

Smelty: how bout this one https://thingdb.io/things-that-are-fragile/

eulerscheZahl: but don't break that dragonfly, it doesn't deserve that!

Smelty: :(

BlaiseEbuth: Poor little thing. :scream:

Smelty: i guess i just got fragile things not breakable thigns

BlaiseEbuth: Don't hurt animals, except humans.

Smelty: human's motto

**Smelty falls asleep

**BlaiseEbuth slaps Smelty around a bit with a large fishbot

**eulerscheZahl slaps BlaiseEbuth with a phishing bot

**Smelty jolts awake

Mr.Pepper: haha

Smelty: "fishing bot"?

Smelty: or "phishing bot"

Mr.Pepper: :rofl:

BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:

eulerscheZahl: not a typo on my side

Smelty: weird

Mr.Pepper: :o

eulerscheZahl: https://xkcd.com/1694/

Smelty: it always says fishbot for me

Smelty: :0 you know xkcd?


BlaiseEbuth: Who does not...

Smelty: did you read his "how to"? :0

eulerscheZahl: the book? no

Smelty: oh

Smelty: :p

eulerscheZahl: but i regularly check the latest comics

Smelty: yep, i believe he posts daily

eulerscheZahl: no, 2 or 3 a week

Smelty: hmm

eulerscheZahl: i think there is a pattern but i didn't try to decipher it

BlaiseEbuth: I don't. I just know the ones that are shared here

Smelty: okay

BlaiseEbuth: Mr.Pepper :eyes:

Smelty: https://xkcd.com/1263/

eulerscheZahl: https://xkcd.com/1002/

BlaiseEbuth: -> #xkcd thanks

eulerscheZahl: looking at go that one needs an update

Smelty: hmm

Smelty: yea

Mr.Pepper: yes Blaise i am here :wave:

BlaiseEbuth: Are you Robin ?

Mr.Pepper: no

Mr.Pepper: i am pepper

BlaiseEbuth: Make sense.

**Smelty is confused

**Mr.Pepper is going to solve a puzzle

**Smelty says bye

eulerscheZahl: he didn't write "hii", you have to watch for those tiny details

Smelty: *Smelty falls asleep from confusedness*

Smelty: oop

eulerscheZahl: confusion?

Smelty: yes, confusedness is confusion with extra steps

**Smelty falls asleep from boredness

**Mr.Pepper is fighting with bug

Smelty: hmm there should seriously be a roleplay chatroom for roleplaying or something

Smelty: #roleplay

planck6: *Hello*

Mr.Pepper: o/

**Smelty says hello

Notgoodatcoding5: Hi

Smelty: hi

Notgoodatcoding5: How are you?

Mr.Pepper: print("doog"[::-1])

Default avatar.png actualCoderTrevor: Nice, I'll probably use that at some point in a CoC :smiley:

Mr.Pepper: haha :D

Smelty: :rofl:

Destinygang: Hey

Mr.Pepper: yo

Destinygang: what up

Destinygang: I'll be back

Mr.Pepper: :)

Smelty: :)

jacek: :upside_down:

**Smelty randomly types some code up

Default avatar.png kuro758: :laughing:

Smelty: oh god my new pfp looks weird in the chat

Mr.Pepper: haha

**Mr.Pepper seems the old one

Smelty: on the other hand, it's an accurate representation of how I code

Mr.Pepper: :D

**Smelty says that he/she thinks that he/she should keep it

Mr.Pepper: : p

**Mr.Pepper is covid +ve mom says don't touch laptop, going to sleep

**Smelty wishes Mr. Pepper a good sleep

JD520: hi

Smelty: hi

helenabjalkovska: hello

helenabjalkovska: how do you do the italics messages?

struct: /me

**helenabjalkovska uuuuh

helenabjalkovska: oh

helenabjalkovska: thanks

struct: euler do you know how many participants gocoder usually has?

**Smelty says "nope"

jacek: let's ask Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but it's really hard for me to start with the same code that got me to silver

AntiSquid: NN in minecraft lol : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OdhtAiPfWY

AntiSquid: and here's a nice cake recipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd4QxWkZHvY

Andriamanitra: who the fuck approves these clashes

Andriamanitra: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/63980336fc4b13ed3c23c5a8a6ebdfe836fe

eulerscheZahl: thienphuc, allaoua, unnamed player [solved]

Uljahn: anybody with 50 clashes played can approve i guess

eulerscheZahl: we don't want to exclude anyone

eulerscheZahl: except for contests. 2 a year is enough

Andriamanitra: maybe the solution shouldn't be visible and people actually had to solve the submission to be able to approve

BlaiseEbuth: 5% consideration

eulerscheZahl: improving the contribution process is in the backlog

cegprakash: a wild ceg appears

eulerscheZahl: no problem, enough mods online to do something about it

jacek: :thinking:

BlaiseEbuth: :smiling_imp:

Uljahn: :(

eulerscheZahl: wait, Uljahn?

eulerscheZahl: where is your circle?

struct: His circle was stored on ram

eulerscheZahl: so #ru is anarchy now?

Uljahn: yep

eulerscheZahl: i wonder if i can still rule on #de or just here

eulerscheZahl: any volunteer?

struct: I think you are mod on all channels

eulerscheZahl: at first I only was on fr and world, not on de

eulerscheZahl: that one was added to my channels later, i never could do anything on ru

struct: Im mod on ru

eulerscheZahl: huh?

eulerscheZahl: i'll go there, try to remove me

struct: I just typed there, circle shows

struct: didnt work

eulerscheZahl: told you

eulerscheZahl: and on de it was the same

struct: But badge shows?

eulerscheZahl: yes

struct: I see

struct: It works on fr

BlaiseEbuth: I can go to say heil on #de if you want ez. :3

eulerscheZahl: same for tutubalin (only mod on ru but with badge everywhere)

struct: I think testing kicking mods might not work though

eulerscheZahl: yes come to de BlaiseEbuth

eulerscheZahl: oh indeed, can't kick you here struct

jacek: and ive been kicked

eulerscheZahl: sorry, didn't expect this to be working

jacek: riiight

eulerscheZahl: on De I can kick mods

eulerscheZahl: weird

BlaiseEbuth: That's work

struct: lol

Westicles: Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein

Westicles: oops, wrong chat

BlaiseEbuth: :no_mouth:

Smelty: o.O

BlaiseEbuth: English here !

struct: if (mod && level > otherlevel)kick

struct: ez code

Smelty: .o.

BlaiseEbuth: With euler everybody gonna be kicked

**Mr.Pepper came back : p

**Smelty says hi to Mr.Pepper

**Mr.Pepper who is addicted to code didn't let him slepp

Ivan8or: dkim19375 is smelly

Default avatar.png dkim19375: HEY

Ivan8or: you saw nothing

Default avatar.png dkim19375: i saw everything

Ivan8or: nah

Default avatar.png dkim19375: :raised_eyebrows:

Default avatar.png dkim19375: oh

Default avatar.png dkim19375: aww

Default avatar.png dkim19375: gtg

BlaiseEbuth: Children behave.

AntiSquid: Automaton2000 parle el france ?

Automaton2000: it turns out to be a multi

AntiSquid: thought it reacts to the language @_@

eulerscheZahl: nonsense. just some English chatting going on on #de

AntiSquid: sorry .

Smelty: hmm..is there a chinese channel by any chance

eulerscheZahl: #cn

Smelty: ah thanks

jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwODwwgE6rA

Smelty: o.O

eulerscheZahl: the most active apart from this are #ru and #fr

eulerscheZahl: then there is #in with a little activity

Smelty: i see.

eulerscheZahl: channels for other languages like #de #es #jp exist but are pretty much dead

struct: on contest pt channel is a little active

struct: contests*

struct: at least it was on last challenge

AntiSquid: Westicles you can speak ger or just google translate?

Westicles: Nope, not good with languages

BlaiseEbuth: AntiSquid : https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/File:Ana_-_Children,_behave.ogg

AntiSquid: explain the link BlaiseEbuth @_@

AntiSquid: it's a blank page for most part

BlaiseEbuth: It's not. Fix your browser

AntiSquid: i have adblocker

AntiSquid: might be it ?

BlaiseEbuth: Me too. Adblockers / scriptblockers/ antitracker and the site works

BlaiseEbuth: Just had to allow scripts

AntiSquid: ah see it loads and then the content gets removed even with adblock off

AntiSquid: nvm it's ghostery

BlaiseEbuth: :ghost:

AntiSquid: https://www.ghostery.com/ghostery-browser-extension/

jacek: wasnt ghostery sold to some company for data

struct: I think so

AntiSquid: lol

AntiSquid: says the feature to share data is opt-in ?

struct: I think it says that, but its on by default iirc

struct: I guess you can disable it

AntiSquid: hm that thing is off, but i remember some other settings where resetting themselves after each update

AntiSquid: can't find any controversial stuff on ghostery, nothing like facebook at least

AntiSquid: any link please?

AntiSquid: the purple button in the corner for number of stuff blocked used to keep showing up after i disabled it ...

eulerscheZahl: https://www.ghostery.com/ghostery-acquired-cliqz/

Smelty: oo

eulerscheZahl: could be worse https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/07/stylish-extension-with-2m-downloads-banished-for-tracking-every-site-visit/

AntiSquid: the "controversy" predates cliqz

struct: I cant recall exactly

struct: It was long ago 3+ years

eulerscheZahl: i didn't even use those addons

struct: I use ublock origin

eulerscheZahl: i use "AdBlock"

Smelty: o . o

eulerscheZahl: for no particular reason, was the first adblocker showing up when i needed one

AntiSquid: i have both ublock and ghostery

AntiSquid: and noscript extension too to disable the "please white list us, please disable your adblock" bs

eulerscheZahl: i just close those pages which complain about the adblocker

eulerscheZahl: if they don't want to give their content for free, their loss

Smelty: lol

Andriamanitra: gotta be careful with adblocks, half of them sell "approved ads" to companies

eulerscheZahl: like adblock plus did

jacek: i wouldnt mind non invasive square ads

Smelty: which is why you have MULTIPLE

Smelty: adblock

eulerscheZahl: the use of an adblocker is pure self-defense against horrible ads

Smelty: ^^

Andriamanitra: ublock origin is one i know is legit for sure, i also use privacybadger which is made by EFF but it's mostly redundant

eulerscheZahl: blinking, flashing, distracting animations that make the whole tab lag

struct: Not to mention popups

eulerscheZahl: EFF? the panopticlick creators?

Andriamanitra: electronic frontier foundation, i dunno what panopticlick is

LoneCuriosity: How come you can only see some peoples code?

eulerscheZahl: browser fingerprinting, telling you how unique you are

eulerscheZahl: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/11/panopticlick-30

Andriamanitra: @LoneCuriosity sharing code is opt-in

Smelty: you only see the code if they share it

eulerscheZahl: seems it's there now https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

LoneCuriosity: Where can you find that option?

Smelty: at the end of a clash you can opt to share your solution

Smelty: also you can auto-share in settings

**Smelty takes a break to watch some csb battles

eulerscheZahl: isn't auto-share just for puzzles, not clashes?

Smelty: oop, my bad

Smelty: I thought he meant in general

struct: its only for puzzles yeah

USB3R: would be cool if they changed that!

AntiSquid: there is no such thing as acceptable ads @_@

AntiSquid: either i look for a product or i don't

eulerscheZahl: but i don't mind ignoring some offer that doesn't annoy me

struct: At least cg has no real ads :)

eulerscheZahl: not like i would buy it. but if anyone is willing to pay someone else for showing it to me (or hiding it from me)

eulerscheZahl: then i'm fine

AntiSquid: do you use anything to cover your browser fingerprint euler ?

eulerscheZahl: no, the test shows that it's easy to identify me

eulerscheZahl: canvas fingerprinting and webGL are both unique

Smelty: wo

struct: user agent: <0.01%

struct: lol

NewDefectus: help how do I close the chat

NewDefectus: nvm

Smelty: theres an arrow bottom right of chat

Smelty: *left

Mr.Pepper: "/leave"


**Smelty says I suck at directions

eulerscheZahl: add this to the url: ?disableChat

NewDefectus: yeah I thought that was a play button lol

Smelty: xD

Mr.Pepper: lol

eulerscheZahl: can we speedrun the chat?

Mr.Pepper: after a contest over can we see other participant's code ?

struct: no

Smelty: i don't think so

Mr.Pepper: oh

Smelty: I think some contests are made into games afterwards..?

Smelty: the public ones at least

Mr.Pepper: oh i see

**Mr.Pepper got a hit from bug (not bug from code)

AntiSquid: you can, there are livestreams / starter guides during contests :P

Mr.Pepper: :)

Mr.Pepper: bash command to show contents in hidden file : p, anyone i am just testing something

pavlot: ls -la

pavlot: more hidden_file.txt

Mr.Pepper: <3

pavlot: ?

eulerscheZahl: no, that shows the hidden files

Mr.Pepper: oh

eulerscheZahl: not the content of the hidden file

eulerscheZahl: i would still go with cat for the content

AntiSquid: cat .stuff

pavlot: but if you know name of the file and if you have rights

pavlot: you should be able to cat it?

Mr.Pepper: i just tried to get validators lol ,sorry i was just testing :rofl:

AntiSquid: which validator ?

Mr.Pepper: clash of code

AntiSquid: lol

pavlot: hehe

Destinygang: hey im bacc

Mr.Pepper: hey

eulerscheZahl: iirc i saw some solutions there when I was looking. but didn't have the permission to look inside

LoFi_Jedi: I suck at this stuff.

Destinygang: srry i was gLin so long

Smelty: hi

Default avatar.png TheBigE: monke

Astrobytes: Stick your monke back in the cage

**Smelty drifts out to sleep due to boredness..... :sleeping:

**Mr.Pepper says smelty is alway sleepy

Default avatar.png NizarHoss: monke

Astrobytes: Next person who does the 'monke' gets a kick.

jacek: monk

**Smelty wakes up and starts rolling around Mr. Pepper

Astrobytes: /kick jacek

Mr.Pepper: lol :D

Smelty: very risky, jacke, verily so

Astrobytes: jacek is our fully resident troll

struct: I expected nothing else

Smelty: mr. pepper and i may or may not be missing legs and arms

Smelty: *just the arms

Mr.Pepper: :rofl:

Smelty: :rofl:

Smelty: being a blob is harder than you think....I have to roll around the keyboard just to type

Smelty: guys i'm in a clash that I approved and we all gettin 75% cuz of the crash test :rofl:

struct: you approved a faulty clash?

Mr.Pepper: lol

Smelty: no, it's a not faulty clash

Smelty: i just forgot to convert to long firs.....

Smelty: https://snipboard.io/JlhfKE.jpg

struct: But do you pass testcases?

Smelty: nah, i failed the last testcase

Astrobytes: ...

struct: ah

Smelty: i made him add an almost identical test case before i approved

Mr.Pepper: is that the n*n thing :rofl:

Smelty: yep :rofl:

Smelty: AND it was reverse mode so no one knew

Smelty: I might get first place with 75%

**Smelty says: "Gotta go eat lunch, cya"

Mr.Pepper: cya

Mr.Pepper: I haven't had this much fun using other paltforms

Smelty: (also the reason i didn't check the testcases was because i was speedrunning and finished the clash in 13 seconds

Mr.Pepper: haha noticed that

struct: Do you know the shortcut to play all testcases?

Mr.Pepper: yeah

struct: Its good for clash of code

Mr.Pepper: oh sorry not for me

Mr.Pepper: lol somehow two channel created one named highschool and self taught which is in my bio

Default avatar.png Beginner012: ldcm.ksmdlmsdfdsfsdfsfsfösdfösfsöfndlönödnsdfnsdöfsdfön ödfönödöfn lödsnfl ln ldsfökn dnfkdsffössfölsdf dfdfölmömdsf

Mr.Pepper: :rolling_eyes:

AntiSquid: why? it was trying to communicate! obviously it's having difficulties making contact!

AntiSquid: Beginner012 do you come in peace ? Automaton2000 of earth greats you

Automaton2000: but then it's just a random search

AntiSquid: greets *

kingbojo: wow

Mr.Pepper: Automaton2000 is only work in world chat ?

Automaton2000: well i would have won

Astrobytes: No, it works in #fr too

Mr.Pepper: oh ok

AntiSquid: and #de too

Mr.Pepper: :D

jacek: schmetterling!

Astrobytes: de's nuts

AntiSquid: in #de it first replied to an english sentence in english and then to a german one in german! i didn't expect it to do that

Mr.Pepper: wow

jacek: oh my

AntiSquid: astonishing

Astrobytes: Incredible.

Westicles: Hey, it called me out. I thought that honor only went to euler

Astrobytes: Nah, it will ping others too

AntiSquid: but very rarely

Astrobytes: automaton NN is programmed to ping euler

Astrobytes: mostly

AntiSquid: hardcoded? for sure :P

Astrobytes: afaik it's either hardcoded or with some bias towards

AntiSquid: there was a time when euler was pinged by new peeps all the time in chat

AntiSquid: got bad karma for being helpful somehow

Astrobytes: It only happens less now because he's not around as much!

Astrobytes: Contest time he gets pinged, PM'd, you name it :D

AntiSquid: i am one of the people who supports the cause

Illedan: Automaton2020 might ping euler if you talk about problems of my puzzle and code?

Illedan: :(

Astrobytes: 2020?

Illedan: AutomatonNN?

Illedan: oh

Illedan: stupid

Illedan: Automaton2000

Automaton2000: not sure about how to do it

Illedan: Automaton2000 might ping euler if you talk about problems of my puzzle and code?

Automaton2000: yeah, you can do the same mistake

Illedan: Meh

Astrobytes: AutomatonNN's dead for the moment

Astrobytes: Automaton2000: Make Illedan happy

Automaton2000: that one is just for fun

Illedan: Automaton2000 got some clues on my code?

Automaton2000: but how does that work in the morning

Illedan: Does not..

Astrobytes: My puzzle code is not ready for the contest Automaton2000

Automaton2000: but you said you were going to do this

Smelty: :(

Astrobytes: Anyway it's NN that pings euler with "euler is there a way to solve the problem with the contest code"

Illedan: oh

Astrobytes: "the code of the puzzle of the contest" etc

Smelty: o.O

Mr.Pepper: hey

Astrobytes: What happened to book & chill Illedan

struct: Illedan did you ever said what you used on slcc?

Astrobytes: GA

jacek: gah!

struct: thanks

Illedan: Still chillin

Illedan: Looking at number go

Illedan: And simultaneous GA

struct: simultaneous ga?

Illedan: Yeah, train all at once together

struct: o.o

struct: try it on fb

struct: if i recall you have a sim

Illedan: Sure

Astrobytes: Number go? Simultaneous? That is interesting

Illedan: I watch numbers go in my RL training

Astrobytes: :D

Default avatar.png yukihanata: is C++ the hardest

Astrobytes: Therapeutic huh, hence the chill :sunglasses:

Illedan: Nah

Illedan: stressing to look it go slowly

Illedan: and not working always

Default avatar.png yukihanata: which one is the easyest

Illedan: stopping, changing some params. Try again

Astrobytes: Param tuning is life tho

Illedan: Yeah

Illedan: not

Illedan: I need to automate this

Illedan: fast

struct: no patience for it

Astrobytes: :grin:

Astrobytes: GA

Astrobytes: afaik that's a valid approach

struct: GA to optimize params

Illedan: I'll have a NN to tune my NN to tune my NN which leads my GA into tuning my RL. YEAH, lets go!

Astrobytes: Param hell

jacek: hyperparam?

Illedan: ye

struct: Which game?

Illedan: No CG game yet, but I just created a new project for Oware

jacek: whats with NN and oware lately

Illedan: Very simple game

Astrobytes: Gawd, not another Oware NN :P

Illedan: 12 inputs

Illedan: shh

Illedan: I need to start somewhere

jacek: 12?

Illedan: 1 for each bowl?

jacek: no scores?

Illedan: You use more?

Illedan: Why score?

Illedan: meh

Illedan: I'll try without

Illedan: But first I need to understand python enough to extract these weights from TF -.-

jacek: msmit would like to predict how many seeds he will take

struct: Illedan maybe you can take a look into marchet framework

struct: He also uses TF

Illedan: I know

Illedan: looked at it

Astrobytes: marchet has a public framework?

Astrobytes: Oh wait yeah, I forgot

jacek: :?

struct: https://github.com/marchete/Mokka

Astrobytes: damn, I'm still too slow

AntiSquid: there is export weights command for any given library (TF, keras etc)

AntiSquid: or a way to display them

AntiSquid: you can code a forward prop in c++ @_@

jacek: forward is so easy

Marchete: I put a python code AntiSquid

Marchete: to export weights

Illedan: Yeah, but it didn't work in my setup :P

Marchete: and view them on jupyter notebook

Marchete: why?

Illedan: I didn't have a model..

jacek: oO

Illedan: Yeye, me and python are not good friends. Yet.

Astrobytes: You don't need to be good friends, just civil :P

Marchete: .....

Westicles: Marchete, I'm curious about your published CGFunge solution. Did you do that by hand?

Marchete: unfortunately yes

Marchete: Excel + playground

Marchete: did the other top3 https://tech.io/playgrounds/ba3d3e0fc833efef68d8f729bf65c58384315/cgfunge-batch-runner

Marchete: did the others have some kind of automation?

Westicles: I don't know if they've said.

Default avatar.png Kanon: Marchete thats really nice

Default avatar.png Kanon: gottdam

Smelty: o.O

Smelty: there's a typo in code gold don't panic: "an medium puzzle"

Marchete: are you going for the 1st place on CGFunge, Westicles?

Astrobytes: xevi still 1st?

Westicles: Hah, no. Too tough for me

Westicles: Was just curious if some algorithm came into play to generate... nothing seems to jump out

Smelty: interesting

AntiSquid: ping ? Marchete yes? how may i help ?

AntiSquid: sorry was busy, had to prepare food for my long shifts, don't want to buy stuff

Astrobytes: lol, was sauce-making night for me too

AntiSquid: i eyed some ready made meals on discount for a while, but then thought, ya i don't really know all the chemicals they put in there

Astrobytes: Plus they lack taste

inoryy: cool work, Marchete

AntiSquid: there are a few decent ones

Astrobytes: I try not to AntiSquid

Astrobytes: oh hey inoryy

inoryy: hello

AntiSquid: how's life?

jacek: ohai

inoryy: mostly work, not much life :)

Astrobytes: That's the UK way, COVID or not :P

Default avatar.png ids: Hi from india

AntiSquid: except the time people call off sick

jacek: but your profile says canada!?

Default avatar.png ids: how to get job with this platform any idea

Default avatar.png ids: ?

inoryy: I'm semi-joking, actually just had a 2 week staycation

inoryy: played a bunch if video games

Astrobytes: Nice

Default avatar.png ids: thanks jacek changed to india

Astrobytes: Against your AIs? :P

inoryy: haha no

AntiSquid: you can even call off sick for stress related issues and it doesn't even have to be major if you can convince / know your doctor

Astrobytes: I jest :D Play anything decent?

inoryy: note that my profile bio now says "I teach computers", no games :P

Astrobytes: Hmmm I see it now

inoryy: couldn't stop playing Hades for awhile, really well done

jacek: do you teach them about bioengineering

inoryy: nope, though would be interested to give it a go one day

jacek: :tada:

Astrobytes: Other than looking more cartoony than Diablo 3 Hades seems decent

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: how would i implement minimax in this puzzle i understand the concept of minimax i just cant figure out how to implement it https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/connect-4

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: in python 3

Astrobytes: You have literally been asking this all day

AntiSquid: finished dungeon3 in a day after months of not playing any game

AntiSquid: i am not fond

Default avatar.png BigFatDecker: well im still stuck

Astrobytes: I do not see the issue you're having BigFatDecker

inoryy: I was surprised how much it sucked me in, the concept is so simple that you just can't help but keep playing

jacek: you understand the concept of minimax, have you implemented it somewhere?

Astrobytes: I had the same thing with Diablo inoryy

AntiSquid: i think you just needed a change inoryy

Astrobytes: All 3

jacek: 3? :unamused:

Astrobytes: 4 isn't out yet

jacek: are you gonna play 2 remaster?

inoryy: I'll play it for sure

Astrobytes: aw hell yes

inoryy: I wasted months on d2 back in early 2000s

AntiSquid: gn8 see you some other time

Astrobytes: gn squiddy

inoryy: good night!

struct: never played any diablo game

Astrobytes: D1/2 were off the hook

Astrobytes: D3 I still loved as I'm a Diablo fanboy (a bit), but D2 was the one.

Astrobytes: Nothing will ever be quite as dark as D1 though

inoryy: yeah d3 is also nice, I do early season GR pushes every couple of seasons

Smelty: o . o

Astrobytes: I literally haven't played in over a year :(

therealbeef: code v zombies always reminds me of the cow level in D2

Default avatar.png ids: https://workid.herokuapp.com check out my mask detecting system integrated to web. And ping if want code of it !!

Astrobytes: thereisnocowlevel

jacek: camera access?

Astrobytes: That was SC1 or SC2 cheat code?

inoryy: poweroverwhelming

Default avatar.png ids: camera is for detecting mask its run local dont worry

Astrobytes: lol

Astrobytes: radiofreezerg

inoryy: blacksheepwall? don't remember what it did

Astrobytes: map reveal? Not sure

Astrobytes: been a loooong time

jacek: maphack?

Astrobytes: Nothing will ever beat "How'd you like my groove Daggoth? Well. Done!"

inoryy: ah right

Astrobytes: showmethemoney was gas and minerals iirc

inoryy: ah, operationcwal was another

Astrobytes: There were quite a few handy cheatcodes. They were useful for demonstrating things at LAN parties and gaming cafes

inoryy: wow I have so much useless info in my head from 20 years ago

Astrobytes: Me too mate, me too.

inoryy: yeah, that's exactly where I used them, at cafes :)

Astrobytes: Not sure if anyone on CG remembers The Playing Fields in London, was a big LAN cafe/bar for gamers

Astrobytes: Used to go there once in a while

Astrobytes: Was near Goodge Street iirc

Default avatar.png jcrepes: Hello world

Default avatar.png 6oranges: Hello wolrd

Default avatar.png jcrepes: ^^

mybk: Hello universe :D

**Smelty says:"Hello World"

Default avatar.png jcrepes: *jcrepes sniffs the air

struct: just noticed I had a bug on slcc bounce code

Smelty: oh my

struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fd16520a-9062-43ad-83e9-4042e82d5b7d

struct: move(first->time - timer); is wrong

struct: should just be first->time

struct: oh wait

Default avatar.png Zeskos: This isnt a very good site to just learn how to code eh

struct: Its not very begginer friendly no

struct: You need a little bit of experience

Default avatar.png Zeskos: Like first time dipping into it

Default avatar.png Zeskos: Any recommendations on a place to go for a super noob?

struct: Which language are you learning?

Default avatar.png Zeskos: Open to any really. Was watching a guy use perl last night and I felt like I was watching him type in hieroglyphics rofl. Python3 is most common now a days eh?

solution.cpp: perl is hieroglyphics even to people who program in perl

struct: perl is not a great choice to start yeah

struct: python is a good choice

solution.cpp: python is one of the best choices for starting

Smelty: hi

struct: Also start with simple stuff

Default avatar.png Zeskos: Struct, is there another site like this where I can start learning the basics of Python, but task based in a sense?

struct: Do you have previous programming knowledge?

Default avatar.png Zeskos: 0

struct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQrJ0TkZlc

struct: Just remember that it might be a little complicated at the start

struct: Lots of new stuff

Default avatar.png Zeskos: For sure for sure! Thank you Struct

struct: Also there are plenty of websites, but I dont really know which ones are good

struct: I havent used them in a while

Smelty: o.O

struct: You can simply search "Learn python 3" or something similar on google

Smelty: yea

BoomFlight: ok Thank you very much.

solution.cpp: there are also a ton of books on it if you are a book kind of person

Smelty: yep

Smelty: also, youtube

Astrobytes: Totally depends on how you learn best. I prefer books and exercises/challenges/etc, I like some youtube stuff for ideas or concepts.

Astrobytes: Just find a way of beginning to learn that you feel good with and run with it.

Smelty: ^ ^

struct: astro still here?

Smelty: :eyes:

struct: Ill tell him tomorrow I guess

struct: I just finished rewriting csb I think

struct: The scalar version

struct: Tomorrow is time to do it avx

Smelty: :0

Astrobytes: Kinda here, just restarted and going to bed struct

struct: Ill tell you tomorrow

struct: I still need to run a few more tests

struct: to be sure

Smelty: woaw

Astrobytes: cool

Astrobytes: ok, gn all

struct: gn

Smelty: gn

Smelty: have you submitted it? :0

struct: Smelty I just made the sim

struct: I wont submit this

Smelty: oop sorry

struct: Only when I finish avx

Smelty: m'bad :flushed:

struct: No need to apologize :p

Smelty: :p

struct: Its easier to have a working version before trying to move it to avx

Smelty: true

**Smelty slaps himself around a bit with a large fishbot

struct: o.o

Smelty: o.o

MOScody: I'm trying to include the "BOOST" function in Coders Strike Back In C#.

**Nzk herself

Smelty: MoScody yes?


struct: Console.WriteLine("8000 4500 BOOST");

Smelty: ^^

struct: shame that you can only boost 1 time :(

Smelty: or you can just do: if distance>5000 then boost

Smelty: yea, you can boost more in ccsl

Smelty: *slcc

struct: I want even more boosts

Smelty: ^^

MOScody: How do I add the BOOST keyword to make my racer use the boost?

struct: I just pasted it

Smelty: "BOOST"

Smelty: instead of the thrust

Default avatar.png Gabriel_Msdfpsajd: i am a better coder than all of you

BoomFlight: Wow really?

struct: Well, I'm not good so I would not say its an achievement

jtsimmons: Proud of you @Gabriel_Msdfpsajd

BoomFlight: I totally agree with struct.

MOScody: I have some good news and bad news. The BOOST works, but now my racer is freaking out and drunk driving.

struct: Maybe you are outputing 2 times in the same turn?

MOScody: how so?

struct: for example

struct: if(true) cout << "x y boost" << endl;

cout << "x y 100" << endl;

struct: Both instruction would be sent to the referee

struct: THis is an usual mistakes that new players make

MOScody: yea I didn't write my code like that.

struct: Can you show me your code?

struct: I might be able to help you

MOScody: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/62aafa80-62e5-4270-9487-c50483971640

struct: Console.WriteLine(nextCheckpointX + " " + nextCheckpointY + " " + thrust ); Console.WriteLine("8000 4500 BOOST");

struct: you have 2 prints

struct: Ill edit the code and send it to you

struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ac6a774f-3b09-4030-9a77-1e000627cb05

struct: I cant test the code though, the league im currently in has different inputs

MOScody: it works!

MOScody: thanks!

struct: np

Default avatar.png yukihanata: hi

Zenoscave: hey struct

Smelty: o . o

EliTheCoder: i haven't gotten a reverse mode in so long

BoomFlight: Reverse: the statement is hidden; only test cases (input + expected output) are given. You should guess what to do. The fastest to pass the tests* wins. => Cool Logic