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timiscoding: i've missed out on so many clashes because of the stupid security check

Stormalix: ^

Westicles: timiscoding, I thought you were a bot. Why would you want to solve the same problems over and over?

timiscoding: Westicles because they're not the same problems?

Westicles: There are less than a thousand, so you've cycled through them three times...

Westicles: Actually, that doesn't seem so bad. From the leaderboard it looks like 5-6 times through is where the highest volume guys quit

timiscoding: Westicles there's some problems i still haven't solved yet but you make a good point. still, racing against others is addictive..

Westicles: No worries, seems like there are a flood of new ones these days anyhow

milad-mehri: hi

Default avatar.png GiangHoGoVap: bring me thanossss

Default avatar.png Ngochung_02: bring cc

Default avatar.png hello_world_1: participate!! https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/16052852e0b26fb283470cfa0d3527e5ab71079

AntiSquid: #clash hello_world_1

MadKnight: wow there's now a room for that ?

jacek: better there than here

MadKnight: Automaton2000 we need an automatic redirection of clash links to #clash

Automaton2000: you can try a lot of games against the boss

Stormalix: boss?

jacek: boss!

Westicles: Has anyone done these jump point search puzzles? Are they as awful as they look?

KiwiTae: jump point?

Westicles: This is the first one https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/jump-point-search---preprocessing

Automaton2000: you could try to get better

AntiSquid: ^ wtf, nobody pinged it, shut up Autosuffisant

AntiSquid: Automaton2000 * ... sorry other person

Automaton2000: yeah that's what i'm talking about the same

jacek: AutomatonNN huh

ParallaxWave: tests are broken

ParallaxWave: aaa

jacek: huh

Default avatar.png Robin-Hood: hii

Default avatar.png Farhan_Sadiq: hi

AntiSquid: hi

Default avatar.png Farhan_Sadiq: What's up

AntiSquid: the ceiling

Wontonimo: same here, weird coincidence or illuminati ?

baguettes: Is there a way to get a question after submitting it?

AntiSquid: where

Wontonimo: in Clash of code?

baguettes: Yes

Wontonimo: if you remember the name you can search for it using https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/

AntiSquid: nah, free masons didn't build it for me, too expensive, Wontonimo

baguettes: Funny how I don't remember the problem name either

AntiSquid: :thumbsup:

Wontonimo: try the Activities->Practice instead. Easier to remember and it tracks the puzzles for you. Also, they are more challenging than CoC

Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/mars-lander-episode-1 was the first one on CodinGame that some shared with me, and it kinda got me hooked

Wontonimo: ^ baguettes

baguettes: oO

baguettes: I found it

baguettes: Robot Ant

Kitkat260: hi, do u guys play roblux

Kitkat260: ?

AntiSquid: if you port it to CG sure why not

Kitkat260: ?

AntiSquid: but maybe you'll want to stick to 2D

AntiSquid: Kitkat260 here's the documentation https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/contribute---help/coding-games

miejs: hi, does anyone know, if my contribution was rejected, does it reset the votes after editing it? I feel if I'd be stuck with a negative rating after editing my contribution, I should just create a new one instead..

Wontonimo: don't know about rejected. If it expires the votes stay but the approvals go away

miejs: that part makes sense, thanks

Default avatar.png ethereal_coder17: hi

Saphine: #clash https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/16057362b41a2f97407f027f5a65e945e59bd3a

Valdez001: hi

arhariss: decay

baguettes: 504 Gateway Time-out

Valdez001: y

baguettes: 🤷

baguettes: 🤷‍♂️

baguettes: Huh

baguettes: Website slow

Lobster_Speed: yeah website is also shit water

Lobster_Speed: Like instead of fixing their site they decide to launch a new site

Lobster_Speed: like wtf

TimV13-BBG-: make one yourself then

Lobster_Speed: ??

TimV13-BBG-: and try to let thousands of people use it

TimV13-BBG-: without it breaking

Lobster_Speed: that isn't what I am saying

Lobster_Speed: I love Coding game

Lobster_Speed: But they can't just abandon it out of nowheree

TimV13-BBG-: well it sounds like you're just trash talking their website

Lobster_Speed: No I am talking trash about them leaving this site to make a new one, without fixing the bugs on this site

MSmits: what new site?

TimV13-BBG-: sometimes that's the better option

Lobster_Speed: coding escape

Lobster_Speed: its not even fun

MSmits: that is really meant to replace codingame.com I think ?

MSmits: is not

Lobster_Speed: not it isn't supposed to replace it

Lobster_Speed: It isn't fun because they basically took the challenges on coding game, over there and tried to make it a team game, which makes no sense

MSmits: you are making an assumption though, that they make a decision to shift resources away from CG to this other site and leaving problems unfixed.

MSmits: it might be completely different teams

MSmits: and the problems on CG might be hard to fix

MSmits: which is why it takes so long

Lobster_Speed: Then why did they say it was fixed tho

MSmits: no idea, i didnt follow it closely. Maybe they thought it was

TimV13-BBG-: stop complaining and make do it better yourself. they're doing their best to make something for people out there

Lobster_Speed: dude your arguement is making no sense right now I'm saying why did they launch new site knowing that old site isn't working

MSmits: from what i know of CG, bad issues like the current ones do usually get fixed asap. Its mostly little issues that get put on hold for along time

MSmits: it's better to go on the forum and make a post, first checking whether someone else hasnt already

MSmits: just report the problem and see what they say

MSmits: another thing: Enjoy somethign other than clashes and short puzzles. Longer problems and bots and such can easily be done offline. You dont need the site to be working 24/7 for that

MSmits: i am currently working on a bot and i can just keep coding, even if i cant test it yet

Lobster_Speed: yeah they said they know and are currently working on it

MSmits: ah ok, well all we can do is wait then :)

MSmits: Lobster_Speed what kind of things do you do on CG?

AntiSquid: idk, it's their internal business decision so ... on the other hand lots of people said they'd pay a premium for faster submits :D

MSmits: I would not mind some kind of premium membership but it's dangerous. It also scares some people off if they perceive unfair advantages to paying players

MSmits: faster submits is one of those dangerous things

AntiSquid: anyone else getting "Gateway Timeout" red message at random?

MSmits: yeah part of the problem I guess

2StepsFr0mHell: I don't see the link between us pushing the Coding Escape (which will be eventually on CG) and the current bug, linked to a prior release this afternoon Lobster_Speed ?

2StepsFr0mHell: wups wrong account

[CG]Thibaud: here you go

jacek: oO

AntiSquid: one of them is the evil twin

[CG]Thibaud: it was my account before I joined CG. Should have reused it

[CG]Thibaud: now it serves as a test account

AntiSquid: damn tab crashed again with gateway error message

reCurse: Oh dear the APIs

MSmits: :monkey:

reCurse: Also don't feed the trolls Thibaud :P

AntiSquid: the guy was just a bit frustrated

darkhorse64: harsh comments based on clueless assumptions -> alternate realities

AntiSquid: the part i found weird was "why doesn't CG things the way i think it's best?"

AntiSquid: do things *

darkhorse64: Why weird ?

reCurse: Oh if it was just that...

darkhorse64: It's consistent with his other statements

reCurse: My clasher radar is also scarily accurate

HunterEhrenfeld: i hate react

AntiSquid: too much self-importance

AntiSquid: why doesn't x do what i think is best, because ...

struct: I wonder what the release was :thinking:

AntiSquid: try one of the alternatives HunterEhrenfeld

AntiSquid: wouldn't recommend angular though

reCurse: I think it's time to write an anti smits script

struct: o.o

reCurse: Trigger resubmit when he resubmits uttt

struct: So many red arrows on top 10

struct: What are you doing MSmits?

AntiSquid: optimizing to the leaderboard

reCurse: MSgiri

Wontonimo: yesterday I wasn't going to complain because MSmits pushed me up 10 positions, but now that he has pushed me down 1 I have to protest! lol

HunterEhrenfeld: AntiSquid, i have to use it because its the requirement for my university project

AntiSquid: send him angry emotes in private, that will teach him, Wontonimo

HunterEhrenfeld: anyone have a favorite bot programming activity?

AntiSquid: it's not so bad compared to the others imo HunterEhrenfeld

HunterEhrenfeld: its not, i just dont like js in general lmao

AntiSquid: don't understand the last question

reCurse: Don't we all

AntiSquid: ah you're one of those people, nvm then HunterEhrenfeld

MSmits: just testing some new stuff Wontonimo :)

reCurse: You'd have more reliable results benching instead, just saying :p

MSmits: i am not benching

MSmits: when i submit its to test bugs

MSmits: i can get a lot of games quick with a submit

reCurse: I see

MSmits: and easy to view as well

MSmits: a lot of what i did these last few months is improving solver, so what i do is check my "WIN" "LOSS" output to see if it's consistent

reCurse: My performance improved disabling the solver, not sure what's up with that

MSmits: well, you dont have a lot of rollout so I'm not sure how much a solver would help you

MSmits: how it would hurt you, i have no clue

reCurse: With tree reuse and accurate move prediction it can accumulate quite a bit over time

MSmits: sure yeah, i suspect 7-8 plies deep or so

MSmits: but if your eval is good, it may not affect WR

reCurse: I'm suspecting it has either more to do with draws, or the impact of a terminal visited normally on the scoring

reCurse: It's really tricky

reCurse: Not satisfied with the answers of the paper on how to address it either

MSmits: might be different for a low rollout bot though. I guess the rest of us also have problems with draws, but because there are so many rollouts, it gets drowned out

reCurse: That's the thing, I think it may miss out on draws because of how it handles them, hence lower perf

MSmits: i tried selecting solved draws normally and backpropagating, didnt realyl matter

reCurse: It might still way underevaluate a node even if it could draw

reCurse: So it misses an opportunity not to lose

jacek: draws are so tricky

karliso: CGbench stopped working for me although IDE works: "FATAL Error while retrieving account cookie and session"

reCurse: Yeah CG updated their APIs, I notified Neumann with the fix

karliso: oh

Default avatar.png deoignition: bro im sorry but python is ass #nofilter

jacek: oO

Default avatar.png ButIMNotACoder: can some one teach me competetive prog

Default avatar.png ButIMNotACoder: competitve

Wontonimo: reCurse are you indexing/hashing boards and if so how? (you said you are reusing them). I'm considering a custom hash

Wontonimo: i'm looking at unordered_map or just a static array

MSmits: Wontonimo are you talkng about uttt?

Wontonimo: indeed

Wontonimo: one track mind

MSmits: it's not worth it to hash for mcts in almost every game, maybe every game. For UTTT it's not even worth it for minimax

MSmits: reCurse is definitely not hashing

Wontonimo: ah, thanks MSmits !

MSmits: np

MSmits: i just tried this btw, just for lategame states

AntiSquid: butimnotacoder already offline lol, was about to share the answer to his question and the many mysteries of the universe

MSmits: because you can have a lot of transpositions with finished boards

MSmits: but it wasnt worth it even then

MSmits: also: Static array generally works best if you dont mind losing some states. That's what i do for minimax

MSmits: unordered_map/set is nice for when you need to be 100% sure every state is saved

MSmits: (but is not the fastest possible implementation that I've heard about)

Wontonimo: i'm sitting at 53rd and I've run out of bullets for optimizing hyperparameters and my current architecture. I ask about the hashing because i've only got 2 ideas for next steps : rave or RL

MSmits: there are probabyl many other things you can try. I bet I can find at least 3 you havent tried

MSmits: did you try doing something with avoiding givign away free moves in selection?

jacek: i havent tried but id say rave wont work

MSmits: like applying a uct penalty

MSmits: same

MSmits: also there's teccles

MSmits: you can do it in expansion to avoid searching other moves

MSmits: narrows the search

MSmits: also do mcts solver if you havent

jacek: msmits why so low

MSmits: just submitted a bugged bot

MSmits: i dont care what my rank is while working on it :0

Wontonimo: teccles?

MSmits: how can that be new to you ? :P

MSmits: allright, check any game between top players

MSmits: and see what player 1 is doing

MSmits: it's very easy to spot

MSmits: mine is hardcoded to do it, re curse NN just does it by training

MSmits: it emerged from training i mean

Wontonimo: oh, right, yeah the first play in square thing. I notied that a while ago

MSmits: well you can force your bot to do it

MSmits: but you can go further

MSmits: you can also do your expansion such that it only allows that 1 move

MSmits: having no branching

MSmits: you can get deeper that way

MSmits: it's not 100% always the best move, but close enough, especially < ply 20

Wontonimo: right

MSmits: and do the solver, it's quite impressive how well a mcts can solve.

Wontonimo: funny, i used to have the teccle (sp?) thing in my silver bot.

MSmits: teccles is a top 20 player, he first advertised this move (probably was known long before)

Wontonimo: ah

MSmits: but he talked about it in chat. Eyeopener for many players

MSmits: uttt doesnt have a lot of very succesful heuristics. This is an exception

Wontonimo: that's why google had nsfw results for teccles ...

MSmits: lol

Wontonimo: thought i was being trolled

AntiSquid: there's an online "solution" of how to win as player one (slightly different uttt version) which uses some similar move, maybe he got inspiration from there

MSmits: thats really funny

MSmits: i never googled teccles

MSmits: i dont get nsfw stuff

AntiSquid: not getting any nsfw stuff either

MSmits: maybe google just thinks you have different preferences :P

AntiSquid: and i have show sensitive content on

Wontonimo: you don't understand it or people just dont send you n*d*s?

AntiSquid: google does show different results based on location

MSmits: they dont send me any of that Wontonimo

Wontonimo: maybe i shouldn't search in my basement bathroom

MSmits: lol

AntiSquid: is it like one of those london underground basements?

Wontonimo: i wouldn't know, but if the london underground basements are like mine, then I'll pass and them them to have their teens clean it up

AntiSquid: google: luxury london basements

Wontonimo: those toilets are as large as swimming pools !

Wontonimo: https://www.cnn.com/style/article/going-underground-london-luxury-basements/index.html

Wontonimo: oh, i'm using 8% of my time on delete

struct: delete?

Wontonimo: 8% - MCTS::~MCTS()

MSmits: why delete anything?

Wontonimo: i'm asking myself that same thing

MSmits: smart question

Wontonimo: Memory Leaks for the Win!

MSmits: you dont use object pools?

Wontonimo: no. i've been reading about it

MSmits: const int NODE_MAX = 35000000;

MSmits: Node nodes[NODE_MAX];

MSmits: easy

MSmits: Node* root = nodes;

MSmits: int nodeIndex = 1;

MSmits: (0 = root)

struct: Do you even get close to 35'000'000?

Wontonimo: oh. hmm... i was thinking id have to deal with delete and clean up, but since delete is not needed, then yes, make make a good point that it is easy

MSmits: struct yeah, for some versions of my bot i need to reset

Default avatar.png uvaishzafri: don't online communities feel dark and lonely?

MSmits: use a different skin uvaishzafri

MSmits: dark is better on the eyes

MSmits: but if it makes you lonely, use light skin

Default avatar.png uvaishzafri: i mean a dark world, away from reality.

MSmits: yeah, keep it light

Default avatar.png uvaishzafri: feels like a different world is going on

MSmits: :flashlight:

Default avatar.png uvaishzafri: lol, dude

MSmits: I know what you need

MSmits: :smile_cat:

MSmits: that was it

AntiSquid: my room is bright

AntiSquid: and i am sure the chat isn't just bots

Default avatar.png uvaishzafri: hahaha you fell in the trap, i am a bot!

MSmits: :robot:

Scarfield: Automatons assemble!

AntiSquid: so? just have to make bots more human-like

AntiSquid: Automaton2000 already has feelings

Automaton2000: and what's the problem with that?

MSmits: :robot: :arrow_right: :walking:

AntiSquid: no problem, we are all equal bots and humans

MSmits: I think some are more equal than others

AntiSquid: like Automaton2000 and AutomatonNN ?

Automaton2000: yeah i think so too

Scarfield: :o

MSmits: thats proof, he's thinking!

MSmits: he said so!

AntiSquid: did the other one die?

MSmits: maybe it crashed when the website had problems ?

Scarfield: someone is logged in as 2000, making too much sense

esfes: AutomatonNN

struct: For the person who wanted to port pool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTTXYxydOE

Wontonimo: well, placed 10 ranks worse when not doing GC ... weird

reCurse: Rankings are not reliable

Wontonimo: you spit facts

Wontonimo: not to be confused with speaking moistly

Wontonimo: (Canadian joke)

MSmits: you are both Canadian :P

Astrobytes: I keep my mask on to prevent me speaking moistly to people.

Astrobytes: *prevent me from

MSmits: make sure it has all its bits set

jacek: why russians are so obsessed with uttt

jacek: (not only them)

Astrobytes: Didn't someone make a song out of the 'speaking moistly' statement?

Astrobytes: I vaguely recall it

Wontonimo: segmentation violation, i've got the core dump blues ... :musical_score:

jacek: not the daft punk eh

Astrobytes: lol

reCurse: What do you mean, only 2 russians in top 10.

jacek: i mean in #ru etc

reCurse: Oh you follow #ru?

reCurse: To be fair the chat here has also been dominated by uttt for the past month

Wontonimo: that's my focus for this month. next month i'm on to something else ... i've got only a few days left on uttt

jacek: why would you choose february for uttt

reCurse: Least days

Astrobytes: :grin:

Wontonimo: it's already the most depressing month ... why not double it ?

Wontonimo: actually, i've had a ton of fun on uttt tbh

reCurse: I just wish it was at least balanced better

Wontonimo: the days per month or uttt?

Default avatar.png Wilster: -=W=-

pabx06: wtf is going one with codeingmaes my algo that was working previously now is timing off and test are so slow

pabx06: wtf is going one with codeingmaes my algo that was working previously now is timing out and test are so slow

jacek: hm?

pabx06: codeingames is laggy

struct: at least this time it was a monday deploy

Astrobytes: Yeah, pretty unusual.

Kitkat260: hi

MadKnight: hi

Kitkat260: hru

Kitkat260: hrud

MadKnight: bump

Kitkat260: why

MadKnight: Automaton2000 help me i wanna continue this joke but i have no ideas

Automaton2000: hey can somebody help me with the chuck norris puzzle

Kitkat260: ok

MadKnight: Automaton2000 okay as u say, let's just spam

Automaton2000: was my first time i used it a lot

MadKnight: Kitkat260 soooo..?

Kitkat260: so....... what

MadKnight: sooo.... hi what?

Kitkat260: how r u feeling?

MadKnight: did u just randomly say hi or did u wanna discuss stuff ?

Kitkat260: i'm lonely

MadKnight: oh okay i get it

MadKnight: Automaton2000 we got 'em

Automaton2000: i may have found a bug that i had a bad submit

MadKnight: Automaton2000 oh wait i'm not a mod

Automaton2000: try ultimate tic tac toe

MadKnight: Automaton2000 i feel like i should ban myself more

Automaton2000: so i might be wrong though

MadKnight: Kitkat260 so how old are u ?

reCurse: He left.

reCurse: And can you please stop spamming that bot

MadKnight: yea i did stop it already

jthemphill: Are all the "Automaton" users actually bots?

MadKnight: AutomatonNN say Yes

sAutomation: Yes

jthemphill: sigh

MadKnight: NN is ded

jacek: eeyup

sRanch: Automaton2000 still alive?

Automaton2000: its the only thing i could do a better job

jacek: now we have to ping euler manually

Default avatar.png aramdov: bro string formatting in python is the worst

jthemphill: aramdov are you using f-strings?

Default avatar.png aramdov: no idea

Default avatar.png aramdov: never done string formatting in python

Default avatar.png aramdov: im googling hopelessly trying to do something so simple

jthemphill: aramdov https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/inputoutput.html

jthemphill: Python's official docs are better than most random tutorials you'll find

jthemphill: I think Python3's f-strings are about as good as any modern language has, to the extent string formatting in any language can be said to be good

Default avatar.png aramdov: i failed this because challenge because i cant format my string

Default avatar.png aramdov: so sad

jthemphill: :cry:

Default avatar.png aramdov: that documentation is too dense for a 15min challlenge

jthemphill: is this clash?

jacek: g strings?

MSmits: how about branes?

Default avatar.png aramdov: somethings wrong

Default avatar.png aramdov: str(n) * how many digits wasnt working

jthemphill: MSmits with the fiziks references

MSmits: :grin:

Astrobytes: yay supersymmetry

struct: clash said you cant do something?

Kitkat260: hey @madknight i'm back

MSmits: after update my VS is telling me I really want to use || instead of |.

MadKnight: welcome back, back

MadKnight: i found a new hobby

MadKnight: reading comments to my fav songs

MadKnight: on YT

MadKnight: but my most fav songs are not even on YT

AntiSquid: isn't YT banned in russia?

AntiSquid: i'm going to phone Putin about this

MadKnight: no way

MadKnight: absolutely no way

MSmits: yeah you cant call putin AntiSquid

MadKnight: AntiPutin

darkhorse64: pray he does not call you

MadKnight: Automaton2000 u gotta call him yourself

Automaton2000: do you find the way to go

MadKnight: that guy is actually pretty chill

AntiSquid: putin kept renewing his presidency, xi is eternal leader by new law, trump should have declared martial law and now we could all revel at the Romance of Three Kingdoms !!! Automaton2000 what d'ya say?

Automaton2000: i can't even get it to work with

reCurse: "that guy is actually pretty chill"

Scarfield: Puchilln

reCurse: Was surprised this did not come from Automaton

AntiSquid: he is fierce, but composed, a cunning leader with a charismatic aura

Astrobytes: You only get out what you Putin...

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: ...

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: Why did I came already ? :thinking:

AntiSquid: ^ what is that ?

Astrobytes: wtf is up with your RAINBOW thing

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: Peace be upon you.

Astrobytes: Have you quit worshipping satan and become a hippie?

AntiSquid: it's like someone enchanted a beating stick with a meme and then ...

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: Somebody kindly asked me to stop salt and embrace sugar.

MadKnight: sooo i tried to sing along a pretty short verse of a nice song that i liked..... and i got really tired from just following 1 verse lol

MadKnight: and i absolutely failed 1 line

reCurse: AutomatonRU

MadKnight: anyway

MadKnight: putin bad AutomatonRU good, remember that Automaton2000

AntiSquid: but some guy on a keto-diet channel (youtube) said volcanic salt is good for you @[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth

Automaton2000: has anyone done the chuck norris puzzle

jacek: hm

MadKnight: Automaton2000 coming up with jokes is hard

Automaton2000: and tell me if i'm wrong

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: Meh, after 3 days I'm already tired to fake I'm a kind guy...

Astrobytes: I'm sorely disappointed in you for even trying to pretend.

MadKnight: stop faking it lol, just accept it that u are an abuser and an oppressor of the minorities

MadKnight: or are u not?

MadKnight: CRINGE

Astrobytes: you high?

AntiSquid: here's the channel can't find the video, but he bought some really expensive salt https://www.youtube.com/c/PrimalEdgeHealth/search?query=salt if you're curious

MadKnight: yes

MadKnight: no

MadKnight: in russia it's pretty normal to joke about being an abuser Astrobytes (just to troll some people)

AntiSquid: ya different cultures . different strokes for different folks

MadKnight: true, how did some cultures come to "white bad / black good" ?

MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's not start that topic her

MadKnight: e

Automaton2000: u should make a game where you can go back to your old code

Astrobytes: Will you stop pinging that damn bot

MadKnight: i need to talk to him

MadKnight: lol

Wontonimo: we need a dedicated channel for that

[RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes, you're totally right... I will stop that now.

Astrobytes: [RAINBOW]BlaiseEbuth: good

MadKnight: then remove rainbow and all that kind of stuff from your profile lol

MadKnight: he actually put that stuff into his profile? not as a joke? Automaton2000 it's too awkward

AntiSquid: MadKnight you realize this is the same phase cyberpunk went through at the end right? he kept pinging the bots and spamming chat even talking to himself

Automaton2000: i got an idea for a multi

MadKnight: AntiSquid that wasn't his problem

AntiSquid: but it was a symptom

MadKnight: u can't prove that it's an actual proof

MadKnight: stop doing proofs Automaton2000

Automaton2000: what do you do when you have no idea how to play it a lot

AntiSquid: see ? now you're engaging in a pointless polemic trying to reason your actions ..

MadKnight: he wasn't doing that

MadKnight: anyway, where is he? last time i saw him was in that website for chess

AntiSquid: and before you know it you start blocking people with a script

AntiSquid: idk maybe still on lichess ?

MadKnight: we can check

AntiSquid: if you see him, remind him i won our chess game

MadKnight: nono me i'm not gonna check it

MadKnight: at least soon

MadKnight: Automaton2000 help us check it

Automaton2000: but once you get used to the game

reCurse: I mean you're talking with someone having 'mad' is in name and not expecting someone rambling to himself with a bot

jacek: oh, fireworks puzzle of the week

reCurse: *in his

MadKnight: i made that nickname when i was a child cmon

reCurse: Regarding to bot usage it's hard to see the difference

AntiSquid: your younger self would tell you to fix your CSB MadKnight

MadKnight: i'm just not experienced in being a social guy

MadKnight: i've been coding for too much

reCurse: Training with automaton will only make things worse

MadKnight: i actually need a whole new approach

MadKnight: well okay i'll try to find a better way

MadKnight: AntiSquid exactly

MadKnight: but that wasn't 'mad'

MadKnight: it was like 2014-2015

MadKnight: i remember exactly when and exactly for what i made that nickname

MadKnight: and it was 2014-2015

AntiSquid: maybe you should go out if lockdown stopped in your country

MadKnight: i do but i need like everyday go-out's

AntiSquid: find a mad dame or something

MadKnight: in russia it's like entirely finished unless u are 65+

MadKnight: u can even visit some shops without a mask

AntiSquid: in uk too, they call it the great reopening, you tend to get unwanted company though

MadKnight: wat

MadKnight: why?

AntiSquid: because someone calls police on you

MadKnight: but why

MadKnight: if it's a reopening

AntiSquid: it's official lol

MadKnight: sounds like it should make everything opened

MadKnight: so why the police ?

AntiSquid: "official" ... boris introduced today his 4 step plan and by june we might be fully over with the lockdown

AntiSquid: why the police? because people like to report you for whatever

MadKnight: just say "hi" to them

MadKnight: and then "bye"

MadKnight: anyway

AntiSquid: saw some videos people getting into long legal arguments

MadKnight: now i'm trying to improve my tone of how i speak

MadKnight: it was just absolutely terrible

MadKnight: the tone

MadKnight: playing a game with this dude daily

AntiSquid: so did you decide which regional accent / pronunciation you want to use ?

MadKnight: he suggested a few nice games

MadKnight: AntiSquid like for sure not a new york'ers accent

MadKnight: did i even spell that right ?

MadKnight: anyway i didn't mean an eng accent tone thingy, i meant like in general

AntiSquid: new yoker's

MadKnight: sounds like a rap

MadKnight: Automaton2000 we need a beat to that

Automaton2000: but is that the only thing that could be used in the next few days

AntiSquid: yorker's * lol sry

AntiSquid: how about yolker ?

MadKnight: naa i prefer workers

MadKnight: hmm i'm kinda tired

AntiSquid: of what? too much typing?

MadKnight: of being awake for too long lol

MadKnight: i just feel like i'm losing my ability to think because of that

AntiSquid: did you pull an all nighter ?

MadKnight: hmmm more like double all nighter

MadKnight: i don't remember sleeping last night or since then

AntiSquid: woah ! go sleep

AntiSquid: did you start seeing things yet from lack of sleep ?

MadKnight: no lol it's actually really far from that

MadKnight: i need like 3 more nights after this one for that

MadKnight: i dunno actually

MadKnight: anyway let's just talk about some code

MadKnight: so we've been discussing some WW in #ru

AntiSquid: sure do puzzle of the week: fireworks

MadKnight: my 3yo WW bot is kinda bad

MadKnight: just a bit

AntiSquid: it's derived from a jap game named hanabi

AntiSquid: and the bot version is a lot less fun than the real life card game

AntiSquid: and the inputs could have been made easier / more appealing

MadKnight: no i only like doing puzzles when i can solve them with my fancy library that is so universal that it can solve literally everything similar

AntiSquid: it's a multi

AntiSquid: co-op multi, works same way as code a la mode in that regard

Astrobytes: AntiSquid: It was in WIP for several months, you could have provided feedback at the time

AntiSquid: i was giving feedback on some stuff, he didn't appreciate it and i moved on to do other stuff

MadKnight: hey reCurse an actual question

MadKnight: any info on your uTTT bot ?

MadKnight: so i made a MCTS with 60k sims and i dunno where to go next after that

AntiSquid: ping MSmits about that MadKnight

Astrobytes: Or just get some sleep.

MadKnight: hmmm i think he's sleeping now

MSmits: nope, but soon going to

MadKnight: oh

Astrobytes: Now, for sure.

MadKnight: me and some people in #ru were asking for some hints for uTTT

AntiSquid: shadow people are real, if you don't believe me skip a few more nights of sleep you'll see them !

MadKnight: got any ?

MSmits: not really. yurko more or less knows what i know

MSmits: so ask him

MadKnight: but u know more than me for sure

Astrobytes: Yeah, 3+ days and you'll get shadow people

MSmits: thats true

MadKnight: so that's why i'm asking

MSmits: you're seriously going to work on uttt then?

MadKnight: first WW

MadKnight: a dude is waiting for me to improve it

MSmits: ok, i'd say implement teccles first

Astrobytes: Better here in World at least, rather than endless DMs

MSmits: get back to me once you've done tha

MadKnight: welll

MSmits: teccles is like -3vel for uttt :P

MadKnight: now i just gotta do it lol

MSmits: yep

AntiSquid: first you grab tickle's cat, get its DNA and convert it to bits

MadKnight: "get its DNA and stuff" ? sounds too easy

MSmits: did you write this anywhere else AntiSquid, I am starting to wonder why Wontonimo gets nsfw results

AntiSquid: i'll see myself out, got stuff to do

MadKnight: how can results be nsfw lol

Astrobytes: yeah what was all that about, I just got some random stuff and a pic of teccles himself

MSmits: no idea

Astrobytes: (Teccles the cat that is)

MSmits: maybe he mistyped it

MadKnight: it can't just be a bad number it's gotta be something more fancdy

PatrickMcGinnisII: MSmits did u use 49 bits on connect4?

PatrickMcGinnisII: for the board