reCurse: Finally
Coder_Raghuveer: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/report/154867836128af97471cfd8327656e0c1fc1d39
Coder_Raghuveer: see this
Coder_Raghuveer: simplest clash
Coder_Raghuveer: only i got 100%
RyanGilbert: hehe
RyanGilbert: u played against all bots
RyanGilbert: or nvm sorry i didnt read
RyanGilbert: or maybe not idk
Mr.Ma: hi, anyone has built a genetic algo model on'code vs zombies' ?
jacek: good morning
pipebits: 2 AM no morning here lol
jacek: reBless doing d&b now? :scream:
eulerscheZahl: happy 8:43am
HiRadical: hellooooooo
sayto: happy 9:50Am :p
Salted: Happy 2:02 am!
jacek: those canadians
Salted: It's a great day in Canada, and therefore the world!
jacek: this google suggestion: "if you die in canada you die in real life"
firepro20: I'm stuck at power of thor optimal angle test case. any hints?
KiwiTae: firepro20 fix it!
k4ng0u: firepro20 when you have both a vertical and horizontal diff beween thor and the lightning are you moving in diagonal (1 move SE instead of 1 move S + 1move E)?
AlgoRhythmus: hi nerds! ;P
nqsa00: hi
vfairon: hi
firepro20: k4ng0u I wasn't, I realised NW SW NE SE are more powerful moves. I think im on the right track now
Coron:
Stilgart: yes you are
zhoubou: YES! I got 100% on Code vs Zombies with 70k. Finally found a bug in my code. Woohoo :D
emetafora: :evergreen_tree:
Manhar: bugs are good
Stilgart: gg zhoubou
zhoubou: Thanks!
zhoubou: I'm so thrilled and proud. It was such a stupid bug :P
DomiKo: zhoubou good job
zhoubou: Ty :)
zhoubou: I'm wondering if I can be better in Python
zhoubou: With*
jacek: can you show your python?
zhoubou: My code?
jacek: python :v
zhoubou: Oh... Lol
LinhT.Nguyen: what u mean show python
zhoubou: Oh no
LinhT.Nguyen: you mean python as pet?
zhoubou: Yes, he means pet :sweat_smile:
jacek: it code of course. if he made the code in D, I would ask him to show D
LinhT.Nguyen: hmm this is strange i believe theres another meaning
zhoubou: :rofl: jacek
LinhT.Nguyen: this is so strange
zhoubou: I would never code in D *sweats*
LinhT.Nguyen: i thought people'd just use C instead of D
zhoubou: Oh God this is not good
LinhT.Nguyen: why not good
Astrobytes: jacek are you taking the P out of his D?
LinhT.Nguyen: just programming languages
zhoubou: I heard C++ was better
jacek: oh my https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_(programming_language)
LinhT.Nguyen: really
LinhT.Nguyen: the world of programming is amazing
Astrobytes: Did he get his python out? Or show you his D yet jacek?
LinhT.Nguyen: you mean the code?
Astrobytes: Of course.
jacek: yes. its over 100k limit :o
**BlaiseEbuth slaps Astrobytes arround a bit with a large :eggplant:
Astrobytes: :grin:
zhoubou: Aanyways, Astrobytes. Student finally beat his teacher :upside_down: I'm 520th :D
Astrobytes: Ayyy, congrats zhoubou!
zhoubou: Thanks! :)
eulerscheZahl: your teacher is on CG too?
Astrobytes: You had a bug in the end?
zhoubou: Yeah, it was a stupid one too
Astrobytes: Most bugs are tbh
eulerscheZahl: that's a better way to parse it than a stupid teacher :P
Astrobytes: lol
zhoubou: I forgot that if 2 zombies are on 1 human, human count is decremented only once lol
zhoubou: I mean, I didn't account for it
Astrobytes: depriving yourself of points eh
zhoubou: Hehe
zhoubou: I'm wondering if NumPy might increase the score though
zhoubou: Never used NumPy, so this could be a good reason to get into it
zhoubou: Or maybe there aren't enough vectors and dimensions to make a difference
eulerscheZahl: https://github.com/glouw/tinn/blob/master/Tinn.c#L119
->
https://github.com/dvdplm/rustinn/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L75
eulerscheZahl: something doesn't look right in this port
BlaiseEbuth: The name ? :p
eulerscheZahl: the array size in the lines i linked
eulerscheZahl: some pointer ninja magic in C
and the one who ported it to Rust didn't really understand what was going on
jacek: common with the rusties
BlaiseEbuth: Hmm. But I think the name is a greater problem.
eulerscheZahl: the naming is annoying, yes
eulerscheZahl: 1 letter vars
eulerscheZahl: and what's "nips"
numberOfInputs it is
BlaiseEbuth: I meant the lib's name :p
jacek: nip could mean something else
jacek: well its tiny after all
BlaiseEbuth: nvm, the joke doesn't works in english...
BlaiseEbuth: too bad...
eulerscheZahl: something with tintin and melou?
BlaiseEbuth: Nope. in french "rustine" mean "patch"
BlaiseEbuth: And we say "mettre des rustines" when a project is barely fixed with approximative solutions...
eulerscheZahl: yeah, joke completely gets lost in translation
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah... I thought there was a "rustin" like english word... Meh
n4gb07: where can we put collision pod radius in code to avoid collisions
BlaiseEbuth: At the right place.
eulerscheZahl: if you aren't in gold or maybe even legend yet, don't bother with collisions for now
derp22: Do damaging items bypass ward in LCM?
eulerscheZahl: in least common multiple?
derp22: Yeah that lol
Stilgart: euleur: locam
eulerscheZahl: aah
eulerscheZahl: but what's euleur?
Stilgart: just me being brainless
BlaiseEbuth: Heulleeuurrrrrr with rolled R
eulerscheZahl: locam is so long ago. I don't even remember what a ward is
derp22: Divine shield
eulerscheZahl: now I got the question at least. But I don't remember, looking for replays where it happens...
derp22: Don't bother, I can do that. Just thought I'd ask first to see if someone who knows and remembers happens to be around
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/484942826
is frame 76 what you are looking for?
eulerscheZahl: the contest was 3 years ago. I remember nothing
derp22: The item also removes ward so I'm not sure if that counts
eulerscheZahl: true
eulerscheZahl: i think otherwise it would remove the ward and not deal any damage
eulerscheZahl: just like an attack from a normal card
derp22: I'll just assume that and see how my eval works
DomiKo: https://github.com/CodinGame/LegendsOfCodeAndMagic
eulerscheZahl: that's an RTFM move :D
DomiKo: you can check it there
zhoubou: 180k o.o
zhoubou: 7th in Python :scream:
zhoubou: Sorry for spamming the chat. I'm so proud of myself lol
BlaiseEbuth: :clap:
zhoubou: :D
BlaiseEbuth: Sorry, there was a mosquito.
zhoubou: :rofl:
Takkashi: :laughing:
DomiKo: zhoubou you know you can hardcode some testcases?
zhoubou: What do you mean?
zhoubou: I know the validators are available, but I don't want to use them for some reason :P
DomiKo: nahhh
zhoubou: What does hardcoding a testcase mean then?
DomiKo: exactly this
DomiKo: if I remember there are 3 testcases
DomiKo: where you can do BIG combo
DomiKo: and you can either spam submit
DomiKo: or hardcode them
jacek: :F
zhoubou: Well I do neither. I fix bugs and submit once :P
zhoubou: But I guess I could hardcode them
zhoubou: So I would run sims offline until I get a very high score?
DomiKo: yes
zhoubou: Hmm okay. I guess that is my next step. But it kind of feels like cheating
DomiKo: not much
DomiKo: because it's not really easy to find that big combo
struct: its either that or spam submit
struct: and hoping you can get the combo
zhoubou: Guess you're right, yeah
zhoubou: I'll do that :P
DomiKo: and
DomiKo: you are using python
zhoubou: Which is slow, I know
DomiKo: so you have low number of sims versus c++
DomiKo: so it's like a little help for your python program
zhoubou: Yeah, you're absolutely right
BlaiseEbuth: :see_no_evil:
jacek: sounds like opening books
BlaiseEbuth: "My job does not pay so much, so I can steal some food. That's not really illegal, more like a little help for live." :smirk:
zhoubou: :grimacing:
DomiKo: :money_mouth:
RyanGilbert: Could some people mind looking at my contribution and giving feedback or approving it?
RyanGilbert: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5956223929b6a2443a0b3816f7b421beea07?comment=38741
eulerscheZahl: as soon as you review mine https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5118d71262a5772672a3a604a0a53942eb12
Zorg1: ^^
eulerscheZahl: checkmate :P
RyanGilbert: XD
jacek: catchy
Illedan: Wow, I actually used time to debug why my last bit was not set to 0 :D Guess I shouldn't be coding today.
jacek: and why was that
Illedan: It was set to 0. It was just the tostring didn't print the leading 0s :P
eulerscheZahl: because smits did the bitpacking for him
eulerscheZahl: :D
eulerscheZahl: then it's the first bit, isn't it?
Illedan: Index 63
eulerscheZahl: ah got it now
Illedan: https://tech.io/snippet/wexEwY5
eulerscheZahl: you didn't count bits
eulerscheZahl: what are you up to?
Illedan: I'll keep it for myself :P Better show by doing than by telling and not finishing
eulerscheZahl: number shifting
eulerscheZahl: just kidding, won't happen
you try the NN hype train too
jacek: hype?
Illedan: Where is the hype?
Astrobytes: The hype's sleeping
eulerscheZahl: right, the only hype is about CoC
struct: they just need to convert the 5%, then everyone is happy
reCurse: The training train đ”
eulerscheZahl: :train:
eulerscheZahl: that doesn't look like a train at all
eulerscheZahl: congrats for beating that horrible league2 btw ;)
Illedan: What was the binary representation of int in C# again. Head not on the right place :P
eulerscheZahl: ?
Illedan: 0x111 => Hex
Binary?
eulerscheZahl: 0b10101010
Illedan: thx
eulerscheZahl: and don't forget about the underscores for formatting
jacek: huh, youre actually gonna NN the d&b?
Illedan: Those I wont forget. I just couldn't figure out what that annotation is called to google it properly
eulerscheZahl: so CG chat beats google in this case
reCurse: Ah yes, the good old "you can only search when you know"
eulerscheZahl: but it's pretty easy to code in java or JS when you know C# and have a stable internet connection
reCurse: True, though why the "when you know c#" part?
eulerscheZahl: definitely missing some syntactic sugar but at least getting working code
eulerscheZahl: or have some prior knowledge in any other coding language
reCurse: Oh, true
eulerscheZahl: sure works without too. but less efficient
reCurse: I guess C# is quite good for discovering common concepts actually
eulerscheZahl: abstract enough that you can concentrate on algorithms and design patterns and not deal with pointers
Knee-Gears: ey euler i have a question
reCurse: It did get me acquainted with functional concepts
eulerscheZahl: number 3 on the list again, i have that already
eulerscheZahl: go ahead Knee-Gears
Knee-Gears: i learn stuff and understand it, but when i do a clash here I just frick everything up
Knee-Gears: how do i stop that?
Illedan: frick?
jacek: stop clashing then
reCurse: Red X button, top right
jacek: [solved]
Knee-Gears: xD
eulerscheZahl: keep training. there is no other way i think
Knee-Gears: okok
Illedan: Better do easy puzzles
Illedan: Because once you solve them, you can see other solutions
Illedan: and learn
Knee-Gears: ok thxx
reCurse: Keep in mind doing clashes only gets you good at doing clashes
eulerscheZahl: exercise is really important to see reoccurring patterns
eulerscheZahl: good point from reCurse
Illedan: Indeed, I have never needed to code some string pattern creation at work
eulerscheZahl: but you also know a bit of the language (loop but also lists, dictionaries, ...) if you don't know them already
reCurse: Though with some far stretching you could say dealing with reverse is like dealing with clients
Illedan: haha
eulerscheZahl: :D
Illedan: And submitting what you think work and only getting 50 % is the perfect analogy
kovi: i wonder when recurse own clashes with NN
reCurse: For? The captcha part?
eulerscheZahl: and solving the captchas ...
eulerscheZahl: yeah
eulerscheZahl: known pool of questions makes it meh
reCurse: Why NN when you can DB
kovi: well, i never clash, so i dont know how repetitive those are
eulerscheZahl: 954 clashes in my DB
eulerscheZahl: some may be removed by now (low rating = delete)
struct: how many puzzles?
eulerscheZahl: 1390 total contributions, subtract 954 clashes
eulerscheZahl: but that's only community contributions, no official puzzles
AntiSquid: DB ?
reCurse: database
BlaiseEbuth: Double Bacon
AntiSquid: ah ok that makes sense BlaiseEbuth
BlaiseEbuth: :ok_hand:
eulerscheZahl: dbdr
kivasho: hey
BlaiseEbuth: ho
Salted: anyone know how to format ascii art for feedback in a comment on a puzzle contribution?
Salted: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/8c1a9997-0da6-4975-920d-482f5f55e535
AntiSquid: "i want to shitpost, but lack the talent"
Salted: It's helpful I think
eulerscheZahl: try nbsp
AntiSquid: ah nvm, that's not very entertaining ascii art
eulerscheZahl: not sure if it works
Salted: Hmm, I just used the pastebin link. Maybe that will just work for a bit
n4gb07: yo..top
n4gb07: :)
Angecide: ok I'm totally feeling it, this might be the submit that gets me to legend in uttt
Angecide: 32 point, not even half ways, something has to be totally rigged if i dont make it
struct: How many points does boss have?
Angecide: too many, I am stagnating
jacek: it reminds me of someone https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/axM2Pzb_460swp.webp
n4gb07: oh legend needs >32?
jacek: are you sure you sent new bot? :v
Angecide: legend is impossible
n4gb07: got 27.12 in this round.. i will be in gold after an hour
Angecide: submitting a bot is like gambling
Angecide: where you pay with your time
Angecide: O
Angecide: M
Angecide: G
Angecide: I reached legend
Angecide: @@@@
reCurse: :clap:
Angecide: hm, I guess it takes time for it to update on the actual leaderboard
Angecide: but i did get the notification
struct: you need to wait for promotion
Angecide: I see I see
struct: Older multies have that problem
VizGhar: congrats :) MCTS?
Angecide: yea, a really shitty one I think
VizGhar: hmm what language?
Angecide: c++
Angecide: it updated, oficially legend on the leaderboard
VizGhar: well ask reCurse, I've seen his post somewhere about how you should use C++ on CG
VizGhar: key is no STD
VizGhar: so you might try ansi C right away :D
Angecide: yeye I am doing BMI2 and stuff like that
reCurse: uh?
derp22: If you have an STD, you're fucked. So the key is to not have one
jacek: oO
Angecide: I started learning c++ 4 months ago when I reached a bottleneck with python
VizGhar: ah it wasn't reCurse sry :| https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/c-and-the-o3-compilation-flag/1670
VizGhar: :D you reached it pretty fast didn't you?
Angecide: I guess, but I did ask for some help occasionally on the discord server and also a bit in here, which helped me a lot
Astrobytes: You were already going in the right direction, well done
VizGhar: here, have a rank of Jedi knight... I'm not 5% so not looking for competitions that much. But earning legend in such short time is nice
Astrobytes: Some people just go for certain multis or optims (or puzzles), so XP and rank is not always a helpful metric
VizGhar: If I go for multi. I'm going for such multis, I can show to my wife :D yeah I'm more like puzzle guy
zhoubou: I'm currently following the quest map. And getting hung up on getting better scores, while I'm at it.
zhoubou: I think I'm done with CvZ. 180k is good enough for now I think
darkhorse64: stl bad for CG is an hoax
Angecide: it is fake news
zhoubou: They are brainwashing you through puzzles.
darkhorse64: The truth is many people don't know how containers are behaving and use them wrongly
RoboStac: there were real issues with it on that version of gcc (4.9).
Severed: Is the Power of Thor game broken for anyone else? Giving me wrong coordinates for the player
derp22: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/power-of-thor-episode-1 this one?
Severed: yes, making a post there now.
darkhorse64: Look at the number of people who solved it. The problem is in your code
SPDene: my solution from several months ago still passes everything
Severed: No. all Ive done is run debug to get the coordiantes
Severed: its assigning the lights Y as the players Y as well, which its not
darkhorse64: You have to update Thor coordinates yourself
Severed: No, you tell him to go a direction
Severed: His location is Y=0, but debug says its 4
darkhorse64: You have an error reading the inputs or you issue too many commands per turn
Severed: im doing nothing yet besides running 4 lines of debug to get each X and Y
Severed: and its wrong
BlaiseEbuth: darkhorse64, listen to him ! He KNOWS. So stop saying bulshits to him.
RoboStac: if you want to paste your code in here we can tell you whats wrong
Severed: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a9ae6ec8-952c-4d8b-a7fc-65bfe0ba493b
zhoubou: You're not updating the coordinates.
darkhorse64: BlaiseEbuth: no bullshit, he is doing exactly what I said, too many commands
SPDene: For "Straight Line" test case, 4 is the correct Y coordinate
BlaiseEbuth: No. You're wrong darkhorse64. He KNOWS.
struct: he is printing to stderr
struct: he only has 1 print
struct: to stdout
Astrobytes: Ferme ta bouche BlaiseEbuth :rofl:
zhoubou: His IO is fine
darkhorse64: Sorry, my bad, shoud go to sleep
darkhorse64: *should
zhoubou: He is just not updating x,y coordinates of Thor
Severed: Oh, so map is 45 degree?
struct: Severed the coordinates are only read one time
Astrobytes: Severed: You are not updating Thors coordinates, but you are printing "NE" every turn
struct: you need to update them yuorself
Astrobytes: So Thor is moving, but you are not updating the position as has been said
mzbear: Severed, press the rewind button below the display to get to first frame. Check thor's coordinates again. They should match now
Severed: Gotcha, I was looking at map wrong.
Severed: Thanks
mzbear: does Thor have debug mode in the display? A lot of puzzles have it, you can enable debug and hover things to see their coordinates
zhoubou: I don't think it does
derp22: Nope
mzbear: That's a shame
SPDene: not a "debug mode", but it does give "game information: Thor position = (31,4). Light position = (31,4). Energy = 74
Astrobytes: Just be careful you don't get a Thor finger from pressing 'Submit' too often.
darkhorse64: OK, I have been a bit blunt, sorry about that but my first hint was the right one
darkhorse64: Hammered by captchas
BlaiseEbuth: The man who already KNOWS don't need hint.
Astrobytes: darkhorse64: Don't worry, BlaiseEbuth is taking the piss :D
Astrobytes: So out of character! :P
darkhorse64: Bad day ?
Westicles: ^^ I can't tell if Salted is trolling me or not
BlaiseEbuth: Trollception !
Astrobytes: hehehehe
mzbear: everybody be kungfu trolling
Astrobytes: "Hah! Who? Wha? Who's that?"
Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/597138ad120ca73e7e45ee52da5a280aba3d
Astrobytes: lol, must have misunderstood
mzbear: meanwhile, i am very sad at There is no Spoon ep 2, since my code says the Expert testcase is unsolvable :(
BlaiseEbuth: If you code say that...
BlaiseEbuth: It must KNOW !
Astrobytes: THEN IT MUST BE TRUE. You should make a forum post immediately.
Astrobytes: And ping all the staff on discord.
Astrobytes: And PM euler.
Astrobytes: Obviously.
VizGhar: lol :)
BlaiseEbuth: AutomatonNN ! Red alert !
AutomatonNN: annoying news about that :)
VizGhar: expert testcase is last one? it was much easier to solve then CG testcase
Astrobytes: lol NN speaks sense in World for once!
VizGhar: AutomatonNN is right guys o.O
AutomatonNN: bend the first one
mzbear: viz, the CG testcase times out currently, but expert testcase doesn't, so i'm looking at fixing expert case first. just can't figure out what's wrong with my code ;_;
BlaiseEbuth: AutomatonNN ! Ping euler !
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the code and it will say that the compiler will probably create
BlaiseEbuth: Thx
SPDene: Westicles I think it might help to say A-Z represent the DEPTH of the pool, not the height - if it was "height", 26 would be above 25
SPDene: and if he doesn't see that it's the other way round, it's VERY confusing
VizGhar: mzbear maybe you are computing closed graphs incorectly?
Westicles: SPDene, 26 is above 25...
SPDene: then it's really confusing... you say "Outside the pool the height is 0", and the uotside isa square of Zs
mzbear: nah, something else is wrong, because my algorithm says there's a node that cannot be satisfied no matter what. so perhaps my heuristics are buggy. but i've gone through them several times already. maybe i'll need to postpone this for another day >_<
Westicles: The Z's are the edge of the pool, not outside
Astrobytes: Yeah I think depth would solve the issue. I got it right away but it may help to clarify.
SPDene: that's really confusing
Westicles: Nobody been to a swimming pool? :P
Astrobytes: lol, no I get it. Some might not though.
VizGhar: bear have a rest :) ... I solved all except CG case in 2 days. then waited 3 months to finally solve the CG in 1hr
SPDene: I've never been to a swimming pool when you have to climb up 26 units to get in
Astrobytes: Getting into my local pool is a fair whack above ground level tbh
Astrobytes: Anyway, I do think depth would be more appropriate.
Westicles: https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Pools-Above-Ground-Pools/N-5yc1vZcfyt
VizGhar: mzbear maybe solution will help you somehow https://pasteboard.co/JK7rZrs.png
Westicles: Depth isn't accurate though
Astrobytes: Eh, I retract all my previous comments.
Astrobytes: "above-ground swimming pools"
Astrobytes: My bad, I missed that.
Astrobytes: Height is definitely OK.
Astrobytes: (imo ofc)
mzbear: VizGhar, it helps a bit, it shows that my heuristics are correct up until it starts the search
mzbear: if i help my code by hardcoding one of the decisive links in, it finds the answer correctly. ugh
struct: These above ground pools seem a bit expensive
struct: Is there a similar to coc but for photoshop?
derp22: How would the images be validated?
mzbear: ffs lol, this is the graph continuity problem after all. This incorrectly flags a perfectly good solution as incorrect
VizGhar: :thumbsup: told ya :)
mzbear: i have my own disjoint set implementation and i cant find a bug in it, yet it must have a bug ...
mzbear: lol, i went to the bathroom and immediately realized where the bug was. the debugging power of a bathroom break is amazing
mzbear: right in time before network errors hit
VizGhar: :poop:
VizGhar: I see you have solved Shadows of the knight 2... have u used the approach - resolve x first y second, or something more sophisticated?
struct: x first y second works
mzbear: i recall i solved it one axis at a time, yes
mzbear: now it's only the CG case left...
VizGhar: that's too easy :| I tried Trilateration, but with not much success... Even debug mode marked final node as not solution :D
VizGhar: sometimes
VizGhar: I'll solve it on both axis separately then
VizGhar: It works, but I can't instruct properly where to jump exactly... to costly operation
VizGhar: *too
mzbear: oh, i just needed to add one more heuristic and now the CG case solves too
mzbear: there we go, spoon ep 2 done. not the prettiest possible code but whatever
mzbear: and while reading someone else's code, i realize i did so many stupid things in my code :D
mzbear: i'm upset at how much better DaNinja's code is compared to mine
mzbear: ohwell
Westicles: That's how I was with Binary neural network Part 1. Some big solution then I see a guy did it in 9 loc
Westicles: Really just one line if you take out the io
MeNubz: Why sometimes codingame gives me 75% after I have already passed all the code?
reCurse: Validators are slightly different
Wontonimo: to see if your code solves the general problem (as opposed to just the visible tests)
Minato_N: hi
Minato_N: sup
Wontonimo: hi
Wontonimo: what programming language do you use Minato?
PetarVasiljevic: why is this so easy
PetarVasiljevic: this clash of code thing man
PetarVasiljevic: So EASY MAN
mylittlestojan: ide gas
PetarVasiljevic: WTF
PetarVasiljevic: :grinning:
RyanGilbert: hehe
