BrainWart: pasting?
Chromicquanta: hh
Algod: what is people(not in clash) can watch a clash see others coding . it will be enjoyable. in binarysearch.io i saw something similar,
eulerscheZahl: some users are streaming if that's what you mean
BrainWart: r u
mrbossosity: hey guys
Q12: If the current ratio between the number of contributions approved in one day and the number of contributions added in one day, will continue, we will be flooded with contributions.
eulerscheZahl: I know i've shared this before:
http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/stats/
Q12: Nice! but sad :slight_frown:
jacek: at least its getting popular
Q12: yeah, but when users will see their contribution does not approved because there is too many contributions the popularity of the contributions will decrease.
Q12: *does not get
jacek: then there will be less clash contributions. profits
eulerscheZahl: and the few interesting ones have to much harder to even get noticed on that page with 100+ contributions
eulerscheZahl: also after approval: a huge page with puzzles, most recent ones shown first
Q12: @eulerscheZahl
Yeah, this is the big problem here
eulerscheZahl: IMO it would be better to sort my some mix of newest and highest rated
eulerscheZahl: sort by*
Q12: Wow
Q12: I totally agree
Q12: @jacek One good side of this :slight_smile:
eulerscheZahl: like: give every puzzle 5 5-star ratings, then compute the average score
eulerscheZahl: that way new contribs with no other ratings would show first
eulerscheZahl: and then the rating matters
Q12: Why don't use the upvotes and downvotes that already exist as sort of rating?
eulerscheZahl: we are talking about 2 things: approved and pending
eulerscheZahl: for the pending ones it was sorted by upvotes/downvotes long ago
eulerscheZahl: then the number on pending got larger and larger (a bit over 100)
eulerscheZahl: CG added a timer to close it after 30 days. and changed the sorting in that process
eulerscheZahl: which was not a big deal as there were 15-20 contribs pending at the same time
eulerscheZahl: then WIP became a 3rd option (after private and public). so puzzles could stay there for longer
eulerscheZahl: and then the quest map. you know that part of the story
Q12: yeah, I understand know
eulerscheZahl: and now we are back to the > 100 that made CG take action and add the 30 day timer
Q12: *now
Q12: Maybe they can also do that if a contribution have a very bad rating it will be rejected.
eulerscheZahl: hm, currently there are 120 contributions in the list. 20 have a negative rating. the lowest is -6
eulerscheZahl: wouldn't filter much
suckit: hey how to check if 2 strings are equal in c++?
eulerscheZahl: == should work, doesn't it?
suckit: its showing error
Q12: yeah I agree, but once I see -34 to a contribution. I think it will help a bit to deal with very bad contributions.
eulerscheZahl: in the end only CG can change it. not sure if it's a priority :(
eulerscheZahl: personally i mostly stopped checking pending contributions as the spam turned me off
Q12: Because of the number of contributions and that contributions with difficulty hard and above didn't get notice I decided to focus just on contributions with difficulty hard and above in the contributions page.
eulerscheZahl: that's one way to deal with it
eulerscheZahl: maybe i should write my own script to filter
eulerscheZahl: tampermonkey or such
Q12: nice, I think you should suggest your idea to the stuff in the forum.
eulerscheZahl: staff?
Q12: yeah :sweat_smile:
eulerscheZahl: we can already filter by type to remove the clashes from the list
Q12: yeah, this is very helpful. But I talked about your rating idea.
eulerscheZahl: for approved puzzles, I see.
advantage: new users get to see the supposedly good parts and not be turned off by whatever just got approved
eulerscheZahl: CG likes new users, so I think it's a good argument
Q12: your idea will also help to welcome to the website the best puzzles.
jacek: euler is essentially from CG staff, why he isnt being listened to
wizcoin: does this platform teach you to code?
eulerscheZahl: it helps you to improve if you have some basic level already
wizcoin: thought it was going to teach me how to code
jacek: not the very basics
eulerscheZahl: you should know the basics (if-else, loops, arrays) to make this website enjoyable
wizcoin: this place is hard
BrainWart: yes
eulerscheZahl: learn some basics (e.g. youtube search for "introduction <your programming language>")
BrainWart: python is a good all-rounder for here
eulerscheZahl: then come back after you understood those. CG isn't holding your hand to guide you too much
wizcoin: im studying computer science at my school
wizcoin: gonna start programming this year
proogrmr: nice
BrainWart: good luck! programming is hard but, fun if you like that kinda thing
wizcoin: programming is hard
proogrmr: programming is fun :p
proogrmr: our motto
wizcoin: i wish it involves titties lol
wizcoin: but sadly no
wizcoin: would be even more fun
eulerscheZahl: for me learning how to code had some similarities with learning English.
At first i struggled with everything: grammar, vocabulary, pronunciation. at some point it gets easier to improve
wizcoin: coding isn't in german?
Ashen_024: coding in german?? ?_?
eulerscheZahl: what I mean: you have to learn some grammar/vocabulary for a programming language too.
eulerscheZahl: there's a certain way how you have to write an if-statement
like:
if (x < 3) { do something here }
eulerscheZahl: if you forget the brackets around the condition, it's not gonna work
Ashen_024: That's true
eulerscheZahl: and initially you take a long time to write the simplest code (or say the simplest sentences in a spoken language). and you may get frustrated and feel stupid.
eulerscheZahl: but the longer you try, the easier it will get
jacek: coding in german :scream:
eulerscheZahl: today's students do that. i was lucky enough not to work with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOvT0bPWs_w&ab_channel=StefanSiegmund-Schultze
eulerscheZahl: Robot Karol
Ashen_024: Yehp, I remember the first time i learned for loop, my guide/mentor taught me it through English= For first;until;using
Ashen_024: being a non-native english speaker it was hard at first yehp
MSmits: morning
wizcoin: so everyone else has to code in english?
jacek: brainfuck isnt english, is it
jacek: MSmits hows the balance going?
proogrmr: morning ;p
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ea611851-6078-4f2e-b378-2a4c3c6702e6
MSmits: seems pretty obvious to me this game needs steal
MSmits: doesn't need 1M games to tell
jacek: you may never know
jacek: time for crowdfunding
MSmits: lol
MSmits: thing is steal cant hurt, beyond the slight inconvience of coding it. It can never make a game *less* balanced
wizcoin: coding in german is whack?
MSmits: schmetterling!
wizcoin: what!?
JBM: lol
MSmits: just a meme :P
eulerscheZahl: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
MSmits: nice euler
jacek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizit%C3%A4tenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft
MSmits: isn't there a law that says no more than one umlaut in a word
eulerscheZahl: do you know what hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia is?
wizcoin: yeah
wizcoin: a word
MSmits: sounds like you're afraid of hippo's on bicycles
eulerscheZahl: the fear of long words :D
MSmits: ah, close
wizcoin: who loves java?
SPDene: it's good job you're not german or dutch, tehn - they have a habit of joining all their words together ( big /s )
eulerscheZahl: Dutch too?
wizcoin: oooo
eulerscheZahl: i prefer C# over Java. Somewhat similar but more convenient
wizcoin: i used to love c#
wizcoin: but im gonna learn java in school so im practicing
SPDene: 'Dutch, like many Germanic languages, is capable of forming compounds of potentially limitless length. The 53-letter word Kindercarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedenplan, meaning "preparation activities plan for a children's carnival procession"'
proogrmr: :scream:
wizcoin: what can you do in c#?
jacek: not to wear glasses
SPDene: verry f^Hpunny
MSmits: hehe yes we do this too
eulerscheZahl: C# is turing complete. if you can code it, you can do it in C#
wizcoin: what is turing complete?
eulerscheZahl: it means that you can express all the possible logic in code. basically you only need 2 things to achieve that: conditionals and branches
wizcoin: then aren't all languages turing complete?
MSmits: it's not a programming language if it is not
jacek: is html turing complete?
eulerscheZahl: programming languages: yes
eulerscheZahl: HTML is a markup langauge: no
ChampionCoder: I have an error in "Don't Panic! - Episode 1": when I try to use the variable "elevator_pos", it says that it is not defined
ChampionCoder: Can someone help me out?
eulerscheZahl: but html5+css has been proving to be turing complete
ChampionCoder: I'm using Python3, bytue way
ChampionCoder: *By the
MSmits: only when combined
MSmits: html alone isnt right?
eulerscheZahl: right
wizcoin: what have you done in c#?
eulerscheZahl: and there are still some things that are impossible to code
eulerscheZahl: let's say you have to write a program. you get the code of another program as an input
eulerscheZahl: and your task is to tell if the other program has in infinite loop
eulerscheZahl: it's been proven that this is impossible to tell in general
MSmits: you mean the output
wizcoin: the halting problem
wizcoin: yeah yeah we know
eulerscheZahl: exactly :)
wizcoin: all I wanna know is what do you know to do in C#?
MSmits: he can do anything he tries, in C#
eulerscheZahl: here are lots of puzzles on CodinGame. you can do all of them in C#
eulerscheZahl: (except Nintendo, CG only allows C++ there)
darkhorse64: re C4 and regarding balance testing, I think steal is overkill. Just say that, first turn, only 0 and 8 are allowed legal moves. Minimal changes for the game designer and for the bot.
wizcoin: have you ever made an android application using C#?
MSmits: hmm this is fine with me, except that for this, you need to be absolutely sure that move 0 is the most balanced move, as opposed to 1 or 2
MSmits: for steal, you dont
MSmits: i would want to get way more games in my meta mcts to be sure
MSmits: the current amount is enough to show it's not balanced, but not enough to show which starting move is
darkhorse64: I agree that for Y steal is needed. Yeah, I am relying on your tests
eulerscheZahl: personally I haven't. but there's Xamarin for Android development with C#
eulerscheZahl: ask Illedan, he still wants to finish the Number Shifting app :rage:
wizcoin: so what applications have you made with it?
MSmits: also, i kinda like the extra dimension that steal adds to Y
eulerscheZahl: mostly smaller personal stuff (like bots here on CG).
and some applications for my employer. Windows Desktop
wizcoin: cool
wizcoin: you work?
eulerscheZahl: yes
wizcoin: nice
wizcoin: how old r u?
eulerscheZahl: most of us here are old in your eyes
eulerscheZahl: 29
jacek: have heard of xamarin, my colleagues tried it in half-serious apps
SPDene: rofl. most people here are young in my eyes
wizcoin: im 17 lol gonna be 18 in a month
MSmits: me, 40 in a month
SPDene: I started coding over 40 years ago
jacek: :older_man:
jacek: on mechanical computers?
eulerscheZahl: back when the callstack wasn't invented yet
SPDene: not quiet jacek: on a commadore pet
wizcoin: who here has used punched cards?
SPDene: me
wizcoin: wow
wizcoin: thats cool
eulerscheZahl: my dad could tell stories about that too
eulerscheZahl: and they had staff to convert the code to those cards
wizcoin: how was apple back in the day than now?
eulerscheZahl: so when a bug occurred, the first question was: your fault or something wrong in that conversion to punch cards?
JBM: "compiler errors"
ChampionCoder: Apparently there is an 18 years restriction on the competitions
JBM: just don't tell them your age
ChampionCoder: :sweat_smile:
MSmits: I think it's probably due to laws in some countries
wizcoin: next level programming is going to be graphical 4 sure
wizcoin: visual programming
MSmits: what do you mean
MSmits: I doubt that
wizcoin: even unity is implementing it
jacek: gui?
MSmits: well it's nice for beginning coders
JBM: it's been the next level for at least 40 years
JBM: a bit slow to take off
wizcoin: its even in unreal engine
wizcoin: and godot
eulerscheZahl: ChampionCoder 11:00AM
Apparently there is an 18 years restriction on the competitions
referring to https://www.codingame.com/rules ?
eulerscheZahl: no one checks this. i guess they have to write it for legal reasons
eulerscheZahl: if you want to compete in a contest, just do it
ChampionCoder: yeah
wizcoin: cant wait for neuralink
MSmits: at worst they will deny you your t-shirt if you advertise your age
wizcoin: ill be the best coder in house
MSmits: but your mom buys your clothes so thats fine
MSmits: euler has to buy his own clothes
wizcoin: just download the learning algorithm
MSmits: thats why he's usually top 20
Zorg1: :D
eulerscheZahl: you revealed my secret motivation for the community contest
MSmits: oops
eulerscheZahl: now i have to plot a new evil thing
MSmits: you can do it
MSmits: just make a new long word
wizcoin: shrodinger
MSmits: you missspelled that two ways
MSmits: and you're annoying the Germans much less than the physicist community :P
wizcoin: lol
wizcoin: i want to be a master programmer
SPDene: hmm. no capital S, no c, no ö. which one did you ignore MSmits ?
eulerscheZahl: S
ChampionCoder: yeah mostly that
SPDene: i thought so too
ChampionCoder: :sweat_smile:
wizcoin: is everyone german here?
JBM: more or less
ChampionCoder: No
wizcoin: wow
SPDene: not me
wizcoin: good english skillds
SPDene: hover over someone's icon to see their location - which is likely what nationality they are
SPDene: ... or an indication of VPN use :P
JBM: it's self-selected
JBM: vpn won't change much
MSmits: SPDene the capital
MSmits: wizcoin half the players on CG are French
MSmits: the rest are from everywhere
wizcoin: your french aren't u?
SPDene: lol
MSmits: no I am Dutch
wizcoin: oh
MSmits: dont rotate your screen before looking at my profile flag
darkhorse64: If half of the leaderboard is french, it's only because we are strong coders :grin:
MSmits: sure, that's the reason :P
JBM: or just one of you is and shares his code
ChampionCoder: yeah
Even the guy who is in charge of all these messages is French
wizcoin: then why is programming languages in english?
wizcoin: haha
darkhorse64: I have spent half of my bragging rights for the whole year on this one
MSmits: the other half is for when you fix your breakthrough bot :P
ChampionCoder: JBM lol :sweat_smile:
MSmits: and share the code with me btw
darkhorse64: The only thing left for me is to implement the better eval you once showed me
MSmits: oh, i showed you a better eval?
MSmits: mine isnt very good though, i rank higher, so i guess it may help
JBM: "the only thing left"
darkhorse64: or look at n-tuples. A link to a MM bot
JBM: those famous last words
MSmits: ohh ok, that one
wizcoin: elon was a coder
MSmits: and then he stood too close to his rocket
wizcoin: and what happened?
MSmits: woosh
wizcoin: mars
MSmits: lol
wizcoin: engine 42
wizcoin: :computer:
darkhorse64: <=>
wizcoin: bitcoin to the moon
wizcoin: hail satoshi
jacek: oO
eulerscheZahl: finally: my internet is back
proogrmr: :)
emh: I'm doing Q-learning for Search Race
emh: I don't have a neural network in it (at least not yet), just a huge 24-bit state table
emh: it finds a way through the checkpoints, but is far from optimal
emh: wondering how I can improve it
emh: the reward is just 100 for each checkpoint. alpha 0.1, discount 0.9.
MSmits: might be you just need to switch to a NN
MSmits: other than that I have no idea. I've done a little q-learning with simple games, but there's limits to having everything in a huge table
emh: ohh ok
MSmits: 24 bit is a lot btw
MSmits: how do you get this into CG?
emh: I don't
emh: was planning to just run it offline
emh: as validators are known
MSmits: ahh ok, thats right i forgot
emh: my current submit is a GA. rank 31 out of 353. ~12k vs best ~10k
emh: online
emh: what NN do you recommend for C++?
darkhorse64: Same for me. I don't know what the best you can reach online
MSmits: darkhorse64
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/69c9ca52-72cd-4cc3-b24e-68e037926add
MSmits: funny thing is, my bot seems to be correct with the p2 reply after enough visits in the meta mcts
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d72d59bd-0777-4661-afab-7f7ea6bee645
MSmits: principal variation so far
MSmits: stacking :P
jacek: oO
MSmits: for the 4th move, stacking more is 2nd best currently. wouldnt be surprised if that changes and the game ends up being a stackfest :P
jacek: why not center eh
MSmits: no idea, but both darkhorse64's bot and my bot play this move on their own
jacek: could be like Y, center is best but my meta mcts always start with 3 2 being ebtter
MSmits: hmm
MSmits: 3 2 has a problem that it appears much better than it is
MSmits: because almost all p2 replies are solved as a loss
MSmits: but 1 of them is really strong
MSmits: it takes a long time to properly converge on it i think
MSmits: these are p2's options after 3 2 start
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/eb7c9552-ccd8-48ad-ba2a-20533f130e32
MSmits: i dont think it's fair to compare that to connect 4 though, the branching is so much less, you also get more confidence with less games, or should anyway
jacek: emh i dont use anything fancy for NN in C++. its just bunch of vectors<>
itachi0718: are lavdicha baal
itachi0718: chudmarichya
MSmits: sigh, another baal worshipper
emh: jacek wow hehe
itachi0718: lets go bitches
itachi0718: sarvesh hiwase
karimk123: 4w5555555555554h5y-------===
karimk123: 6745mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmr7r86789000---075
darkhorse64: looking at long games, C4 is actually a stack fest when there some taboo columns (playing in them is an instant loss). The game then turns into a series of waiting moves which explains why you can sometimes predict the outcome 20 or 25 moves before the end
jacek: some columns become traps eh
darkhorse64: exactly
MSmits: yeah thats true
BilyTheDev: iowepopeof
z64555: people keep following me :eyes:
**MSmits dives into the bushes
vishessh: hi all, i am new here
vishessh: nice to meet you all
EliasG2: hello i am new too
jacek: good evening
jacek: how may we help you, Sir/Madam
Westicles: What can I do when someone deletes my comment on a contribution? I didn't even know a non-mod could do that
MSmits: I can't delete it
Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/6016f53c73b47cf4645fc98cbc590e58dcf2?comment=37934
MSmits: maybe the person who owns the contribution can?
Westicles: Somehow Stilgart whacked my response to his rejection
MSmits: are you guys at it again
Westicles: Apparently he is
MSmits: is he a mod maybe?
Stilgart: is whining all you can do ?
MSmits: :popcorn:
Westicles: He rejected with no feedback, I gently reminded him of the rules, and he deletes my comment. This is abuse at the highest level
Stilgart: Not reading past comments before emit a judgement seems okay, though
Westicles: As much as I don't want to, I'm afraid I'll have to lodge a formal complaint. We are supposed to be a community here, not despots
Stilgart: like I care
MSmits: to be fair Westicles, he did give an earlier reason and rejected then. Maybe he should have stated that the same reasons hold
MSmits: Stilgart1 day ago
❌ Rejected the contribution.
Comment: Underspecified and too unfair (tr -dC a-zA-Z).
MSmits: it would help if you guys communicated without the sarcasm and accusations and kept to the facts.
MSmits: less drama that way
eulerscheZahl: while not compliant to CG rules, personally i can totally understand a rejection without reason at this point. this user just keeps spamming low quality clashes
eulerscheZahl: you are supposed to solve them in 5min
eulerscheZahl: that doesn't mean you have to create them in 5min
Westicles: My complaint is about my comment being deleted
eulerscheZahl: oh, missed that point. sorry
MSmits: true, that does seem wrong, but i dont know what it said exactly
MSmits: the tone of it, etc.
eulerscheZahl: i saw it (don't remember the wording). didn't seem offending to me
MSmits: allright
eulerscheZahl: quoting thibaud from forum
eulerscheZahl: expecting more from high level user
eulerscheZahl: which thibaud said to westicles
eulerscheZahl: obviously out of context but meh
eulerscheZahl: i had a good chuckle
MSmits: well I think it's great you guys spend time looking at the contributions. I never do. Just started with connect4 and it's a lot of work
Westicles: Yes, it was sage advice :)
Westicles: Poor rockstar, now they've brigaded him and it is gone :(
eulerscheZahl: well, not everyone reviews the way you do smits
MSmits: I guess so
Westicles: "What can I do against one user (and his obedient friends) taking revenge on me regarding rejecting contributions?"
eulerscheZahl: even if approved, I bet the clash would be gone again soon.
MSmits: do clashes get removed after the fact?
eulerscheZahl: can't imagine the clash having a good enough community rating to survive for long
MSmits: oh, the rating
eulerscheZahl: you need a certain amount of votes. and if the rating goes below a certain score then, goodbye..
eulerscheZahl: community bot is ruthless
Westicles: Yeah, kind of weird with CoC since you can't monitor the status. No feedback until it is removed
darkhorse64: rockstar contribs were very bad
darkhorse64: poor, I should say
eulerscheZahl: regarding moderation and refusing low quality: either you make the creator sad by refusing or you give low quality to at least 20 players until it gets refused. for the overall experience I prefer to make the creator sad
jacek: is this what happens with blockout :smiling_imp:
eulerscheZahl: community bot already pushed it back to draft mode
darkhorse64: it takes way more than five minutes to review
eulerscheZahl: and reviewers are drowning with approx 120 pending contribs now
Westicles: And now he deleted another!
Westicles: Drunk with power, or just...
MSmits: what did you say
MSmits: it wasn't about his mother or anything right?
Westicles: He deleted my comment. J'accuse!
Westicles: Something like that
jacek: sacre bleu!
MSmits: :bird:
MaxDiaz: I love y'all
z64555: ah, the joy of debugging state machines. frequent "the heck is this bot doing" to keep me entertained
eulerscheZahl: state machines are much easier to debug than a simulation and complex scoring
eulerscheZahl: let alone a neural network
MaxDiaz: You are all my favorite people
z64555: having a proper debug spew certainly helps
z64555: using only cerr is kind of limiting
Westicles: Can somebody help with the translation for this?
Westicles: Stilgart 09:32AM
Westicles est factuellement un connard, et personne ne fait rien
SPDene: put it into google translate, and I think you'll get a good enough idea (I don't want to repeat language like that on here)
struct: I think I understand but my french is not great so my translation can be wrong
eulerscheZahl: i don't speak french but i'm pretty sure google translate got the message
darkhorse64: Westicles: please stop putting money in the machine. You are not doing any good to anybody including yourself
z64555: just gonna... close chat while that gets sorted
eulerscheZahl: i should follow your idea
jacek: try deepL, machine learned trnaslator
jacek: just like AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: good luck
darkhorse64: As a native french speaker, I got it right but I do not want to comment on it. I think it is now the responsability of the community manager and we should all leave it to him
eulerscheZahl: i agree. he'll be back on Monday
eulerscheZahl: maybe I should close the forum thread and mention it there as well? :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: before the forum turns into a fight scene
Westicles: It wasn't closed last time
eulerscheZahl: and it lead to some more insults
Westicles: It is up to you. I'm surprised they didn't just delete it also
eulerscheZahl: i don't want to censor and shut down a discussion. but I see it as Thibauds job to deal with it and not let it turn into a bush fire in the meantime
eulerscheZahl: i won't delete anything unless there's a really good reason (e.g. heavy insults)
Westicles: That looks reasonable, thanks euler
Yuy_oshch: ey yo it's pipipoopoo check
Maxim251: how i can do it? if( a<b<c<a) ?This is posible? Or there is simillar idea? If not then I am forced to do it in hard way
eulerscheZahl: a<a is not possible
MSmits: it's false
Yuy_oshch: just pay "300 hundred bucks"
SPDene: that's true :P
eulerscheZahl: 300 100. is that 30000?
SPDene: any context Maxim251 ? are you trying to compare multiple variable in a single statement? what language are you using?
Maxim251: I have in game some comparision and there is C>P>R>L>S and then again S>C>L... so go one, ts a string and each of that letters are bigger from previouse
Maxim251: simplyfying it is like so S>C>P>L>R>L>S>C>L>P>S>R>C
Maxim251: That letters have different situations
SPDene: that's not possible... because you have S > S and C > C and P > P ....
Maxim251: Thats not good, this way I will have very big nested statments
Maxim251: or maybe I could use struct? Make vector, and do some easy if statment that each letter in different situation will be bigger or smaller?
Maxim251: Question is what I need for struct, to show if S>C but S<P
Westicles: If you arrange it right, in c++ you could do if(string<sort(string))
Maxim251: Yes, But I am worry about that if one time C < P but C>L L
K K<C
Maxim251: what I mean that C not always is the biggest value
Maxim251: This is full situation problem
Maxim251: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9ab74261-ec25-483c-9841-07b3f539e84f
Westicles: Not sure if you are using c++. but adjacent find could work
Westicles: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41291215/iterating-over-a-vector-with-stdadjacent-find-and-custom-predicate
Maxim251: Hmm pairs could be good idea, but then i get next problem, how arange letters that one time it will be on right side, and in another situation it will be at left?
Maxim251: Because as I mentioned P is not alwasy the biggest, comparing with R and S wins, its something like a wheel
Maxim251: 2D representation of my problem
Maxim251: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/11f96c02-b57f-4584-af50-e805281f0724
Maxim251: another visualitation
Maxim251: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/648a447c-6d72-45c0-99e8-b8df226ac40e
Maxim251: Oww, I think that I fount easy solution, thanks guys :)
MrSok: why would one follow you?
AaySquare: Hello?
DarkGaulois: olleH
proogrmr: ?olleH
MrSok: why why would anyone people follow others?
MrSok: well *why woud people follow others, i mean what is the benefit?
proogrmr: the can be freinds and discuss some problems and it is good to make freinds, i got so many
AaySquare: New to this website.
AaySquare: But not programming
AaySquare: Reminds me of leetcode but more specific to games, no?
Astrobytes: Gamified puzzles. Also multiplayer bot programming (bots to play certain games)
Astrobytes: Not about actual game programming. Though there is an SDK (Java based) if you fancy trying to create a puzzle/solo game/multi game
AaySquare: Ah still very interesting. Basically, I was directed by someone to here because I asked what would be a good way to practice C++ skills.
Astrobytes: Yes, good place to practice for sure. Learn new algorithms, techniques etc. It's fun too ;)
Astrobytes: The graphical aspect is what distinguishes the puzzles from other sites. The real strong point is the multiplayer bot programming imo (and optimisation games)
AaySquare: Nice! Also I've been job hunting and trying to break into games industry as a programmer but it's been tough.
AaySquare: Sounds awesome. Will give multiplayer bot programming a try.
Astrobytes: Can't give you any job hunting advice myself tbh, other than don't give up and have a good portfolio!
AaySquare: Thanks! That's very important for me, to not give up that is. As I've been demotivated and dissapointed so many times after getting rejected. xD
sean_choi: Hello!
pipebits: Hi
cazka: how does codinggame.com earn their money?
pipebits: :v with `Get a job`? idk
lorenzocazzador: also sponsor
Astrobytes: cazka:
https://www.codingame.com/blog/best-way-hire-developers/
cazka: thanls
MSmits: AaySquare from what i have heard, game programmers are exploited more than any other kind
MSmits: because it's a very attractive job for a programmer, looking from the outside in, it means companies get away with poor working conditions
MSmits: but dont take it from me, there's probably a game programmer around here somewhere
Astrobytes: hey MSmits
MSmits: hey Astrobytes
struct: Depends on the company ofc
MSmits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLAi_cmly6Q
MSmits: watch this
AaySquare: MSmits, yeah I've heard about that... Either ways, it's the area of programming I am most passionate about. I'm sure as struct said, it depends on the company also so I'll take that chance.
MSmits: yeah, just go in with your eyes open
AaySquare: :thumbsup:
Astrobytes: One can definitely make an argument for the cynical exploitation of the industry as well as the consumer (micro-transactions etc)
Astrobytes: Gaming is just kinda grim these days. From either side it seems.
Astrobytes: *argument showing not argument for
Astrobytes: Though I guess CEOs and investment funds could make an argument *for* :/
BNA-02: hello guys
Rock-Lee: lag
AndrejG: is it just me or is this web really laggy right now?
Joshua02: same
Lobster_Speed: same
Lobster_Speed: the test cases run mad slow
Lobster_Speed: and it takes a while for my score to compute
pipebits: All days at this time the site get laggy
Astrobytes: It's the servers updating the databases for codinpoints etc
Rodrigo_the_coder: happy new year
CloudyS: HNY, Happy for Monday.
PatrickMcGinnisII: anyone do Bulls and Cows 2, I'm trying to decide on a fitness function ?
Requisha: nerds
mrbossosity: hey guys
