Raynor1994: Hi all, I have a question. I have to do a technical assessment on JS and SQL under this platform. How likely am I to see the same or similar questions as the challenges listed here? If anyone did a TA in this platform before, any feedback would be really nice.
ATaco: The sheer variety of Challenge Questions will likely mean most if not all TA questions you'll've not done yet :P
miszu: do like 2-3 questions in JS and you should be fine
Bikoko: Truong Sa and Hoang Sa are belong to Vietnam
miszu: why unit testing is important
miszu: I thought log() in c++ is the log base 2... but it's the natural log
miszu: and I found out by unit testing
ATaco: I love when you timeout in the Fall 2020 challenge and your witch just goes braindead
Lysk: I have a preference for the witch stuck on a full inventory
ATaco: My witch is more of a wizard; focuses more on learning spells.
rockstar555: full of coders
Uljahn: hihi, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you would have the same amount of time
Automaton2000: so do you have time to do anything about it
Uljahn: why do you want to kick people?
ATaco: Just realized I had a logic error in which witches preferred to learn less effective spells then the ones they already knew.
rockstar555: very happy
rockstar555: promoted to silver league
rockstar555: in coder strike back
ATaco: Oh nice
ATaco: I've got quite a bit of issue with that one myself :P
rockstar555: struggling with fall challange 2020
ATaco: What League?
rockstar555: wood 2
ATaco: Just got to Silver League in Fall 2020, Woot.
RicksMLC: Woot woot!
emh: I have an idea for an optimization multi
Illedan: Make it emh? :D
emh: Illedan I'm inexperienced with that. I have open the page for contributio now. do you want to help me make the contest? :)
Illedan: Sure can do :)
emh: Illedan shall we keep it secret or in public chat?
Illedan: Send me a msg on Discord and we can continue the talk there :)
Raynor1994: stupid question, when you are creating a new variable, are you reading it or writing it?
Raynor1994: e.g. from Power of Thor:
Line 1: the number of remaining moves for Thor to reach the light of power: remainingTurns. You can ignore this data but you must read it.
KAIn: it means that you have to read that from the console. It is up to you to decide whether you then write that to a local variable
Uljahn: if you don't read, then you'll read the remaining part on the next turn and become desynced
KAIn: it is true for all the games here at CG
KAIn: you must read all the inputs the engine provides
KAIn: and you must provide (write to console) exactly as much outputs as the descriptions says
Raynor1994: when i took a glimpse at the solution, it didn't use remainingTurns at all
KAIn: to ensure that you stay in sync
Raynor1994: other then the initial const declaration
Raynor1994: im using JS btw
Uljahn: you should perform IO-interactions in a specified order, but you're free to ignore some input values
KAIn: the kickstart solution that you get in your IDE reads all the data for you. Whether you use those variables is up to you, but you should keep reading them
Uljahn: ZacDonald: i didn't get your question earlier, i have no 'getCarried' var in the stun, maybe you should specify the language you use
Uljahn: *in the stub
Raynor1994: I just finished it in JS without reading remainingTurns and got 100%
Raynor1994: the solution provided is using python3 i believe and it didn't read it either
Uljahn: ah yes, you could do that without reading all the inputs, but it's not a good practice
rockstar555: how to create own coding puzzle
Uljahn: ZacDonald: what do you mean? if carriedBy == -1, then that sample is in the cloud
Raynor1994: how am i supposed to use that variable here? for loop?
Raynor1994: for in range of rT?
Uljahn: just read it and ignore
emh: I was talking with Illedan about creating a contest. turns out the idea might be too complex for CodinGame. so maybe I will host a contest on my own server
emh: see https://github.com/emnh/VB6ToCSharpCompiler/blob/master/VB6ToCSharpCompiler/TranslatorForPattern.cs#L68-L235 for the type of data I'm interested in gathering from crowdsourcing / an optimization contest
Uljahn: Raynor1994: as an example, starting leagues have unused inputs in some multiplayers on CG, which become useful later
Raynor1994: As a mod, do you know anything about the technical assessments here?
Raynor1994: I have one for JS + SQL due
Uljahn: you've been answered on discord by the staff member, no?
Uljahn: mods know nothing about CG compared to staff
Raynor1994: fair enough
emh: hmm.. simpler version of my idea using regex instead of CFG: given a list of source and target strings, determine a regex and a substitution that takes the sources to the targets. is it a known problem? does it have a name? like reverse regex but different? are there similar puzzles?
emh: I'm not in much of a coding mood today, so just airing vague ideas hehe
emh: found a bunch of articles and software by googling "generating regex"
JohnCM: i only know of minimal edit distance
AntiSquid: CG does SQL assessments too ? cool
VizGhar: Any recommendations on which game is easiest to reach legend? :) I'm looking for another motivation
VizGhar: (i mean bot programming competition)
AndreMarasca: is there any way to write latex in the Statement * field in "contributions"?
ZarthaxX: VizGhar tron
AntiSquid: i am quite sure CSB is easiest @_@
miszu: fun fact I learned yesterday while unit testing
miszu: the log()in c++ is the natural log and not the log base 2
struct: as it should :p
ZarthaxX: AntiSquid no its not :)
AntiSquid: lol why not
AndreMarasca: natural log is default
ZarthaxX: CSB legend isnt that easy i would say
ZarthaxX: but yes, we dont talk abotu the 3.. formula :D
AntiSquid: to reach . not to advance
ZarthaxX: i meant to reach too..
struct: fc2020 easiest
ZarthaxX: gold is easy to reach, but legend?
ZarthaxX: struct lmao
struct: it all depends on your skill level I guess
AntiSquid: fc2020 has to be easier to reach than OoC where you have 1 month worth of improved bots
struct: hard to say which one is the easiest
miszu: also depends on your debugging skills
ZarthaxX: ooc lasted 1 month?
AntiSquid: in fc2020 i simply didn't do much aside from search next best potion and some few conditions
miszu: AntiSquid no sims?
VizGhar: I know it's hard to say :) but i like state machines and pathfinding, so CSB is not my way to go
miszu: like graph searches?
AntiSquid: well yes sim to get next best potion .
miszu: CSB you need to use genetics algorithm
miszu: some dark magic
VizGhar: graph searching is funny too
miszu: I need to do some research about multi agents strategies
AntiSquid: but the simulation in SG (Spice Girls (fc2020) ) is much much easier than most games
VizGhar: I've been coding some GA for my bachelor's... might be way to go as well :)
ZarthaxX: VizGhar that's my boy
ZarthaxX: you can do GA in CSB if you want :sweat:
miszu: what algorithm works for high branching games?
AntiSquid: is GA worth it? i saw the arguments of why MCTS is better and why not just stick to that ?
AntiSquid: you can do any extra form of hill climb with MCTS .
ZarthaxX: i put that face because it's not the meta anymore hehe
AntiSquid: for CSB legend i had a math formula . that's it btw
ZarthaxX: im still afraid of MCTS losing some potential good moves, but that's more critical on games where the score changes a lot in some moves
ZarthaxX: AntiSquid wow.... i did a lot of if else spaghetti
AntiSquid: well you see i converted the if else into maths !
ParticleBeam: His math formula could be 3 pages long
AntiSquid: that's next level if-else
AntiSquid: keep up ZarthaxX
VizGhar: @ZarthaxX I'll try every game probably :D
VizGhar: MCTS is?
ZarthaxX: AntiSquidi already lost it already
ZarthaxX: monte carlo tree search VizGhar
VizGhar: ah sure
ZarthaxX: you would like that if you like graphs
ZarthaxX: trying every game is a strong promise :D
ZarthaxX: hard to keep up lol
eulerscheZahl: RAIC announcement: "All participants in the second round will receive T-shirts, and the finalists will receive sweatshirts."
eulerscheZahl: they uncanceled it
miszu: pick games you are genuinely interested to do and look for learning experience
eulerscheZahl: preview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPR04AvJ-pI&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=MailruGroup
ZarthaxX: the toad is happy?
AntiSquid: any conditional check can be included as:
x = (a < b) * value + other stuff ZarthaxX
ZarthaxX: yes i know AntiSquid
AntiSquid: so .
ZarthaxX: do you want me to do a big fat formula
AntiSquid: do it
AntiSquid: do your worst !
ZarthaxX: i would prefer to go with the big bois algorithms hehe
AntiSquid: you realize a NN is just a math formula right ?
VizGhar: I'm going for an adventure... I loved GA but I was solving one ultra hard puzzle (some supercomputers are solving them a few years). Slightly discontinued from realtime processing :P
VizGhar: and it was like 7years ago. I wonder how much effort it will cost me
AntiSquid: so highlight 3D ... will there be sound like last year euler ?
AntiSquid: halite 3D *
AntiSquid: not easy to observe how annoying the aiming was
VizGhar: those sounds :D
Illedan: eulerscheZahl, we can get tshirt anyhow?!
struct: I think raic said no shirts this year
Illedan: euler said something about uncancel. Where did he read it?
Illedan: I need to know if I have to work on that game :D
wlesavo: Illedan they said there will be t-shirts for all half-finalists, and they comcerned about last year screw up, and promise to try to do better this year
Illedan: screw up?
Illedan: On which part?
wlesavo: well it is said some people get t-shirts after a year of waiting
Illedan: I didn't even get mine yet..
wlesavo: oh, well this is it :smiley:
Illedan: I want my sweatshirt!
struct: anyone with experience on creating 3d models, which software do you recomend?
AntiSquid: how do you feel about this halite clone?
AntiSquid: i used blender because it's free
AntiSquid: look up also unreal engine, i think it was free or there was a free version of it and you can do 3D models too, i didn't use that one, but the blender tutorial is long and there's a lot of detail to take into account struct
struct: thanks ill check blender I think
kovi: raic halite?
kovi: or that is just preparation for the big battle between the 3d objects?
wlesavo: no 3d
wlesavo: and fog strating from half final
AntiSquid: lol fog
Nerchio: fog is love fog is life
reCurse: I was almost tempted too
blasterpoard: in an RTS, I'd argue that it actually adds something to the game
blasterpoard: not in RAIC though, because there's no techtree and scouting can only tell you how greedy the player is
eulerscheZahl: wlesavo 03:37PM well it is said some people get t-shirts after a year of waiting
just today i received the confirmation email that it's on the way :D
wlesavo: lol restoring the image before the new contest :smiley:
eulerscheZahl: meanwhile CG only has a women's version of the read stdin flush stdout tshirt
eulerscheZahl: i guess it's the cube again then
AntiSquid: gratz on the t-shirt euler
eulerscheZahl: thanks :)
jrke: i hope spring challenge 2021 will give me a t-shirt
eulerscheZahl: you got one already
eulerscheZahl: for your winterthrone
jrke: yeah hope its second t-shirt
eulerscheZahl: which design did you take?
jrke: cube one
AntiSquid: community contests reward shirts?
AntiSquid: or just organizers
eulerscheZahl: community contest? promotion of an existing game
eulerscheZahl: some streamers also get tshirts
AntiSquid: ya w/e you want to call it
struct: With competition increasing its a bit harder to get top 20
AntiSquid: multiplayer party week ... better ? :P
eulerscheZahl: had a short look at instafluff yesterday (?) as the live thing was highlighted. he chose the cube too
AntiSquid: does he still cover his entire screen in clouds and toys?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/816493253 there he is wearing the cube
eulerscheZahl: the glitchy cube :D
eulerscheZahl: https://img.printfection.com/18/21271/bT7r1IaOxZpPl8N/Next+Level+3600+-+CodinGame+Rubiks+Cube+-+Black+%28Front%29.png with 2 areas merged
jrke: ^^ yeah thats mine cude one
reCurse: Wow he's more popular than I thought
eulerscheZahl: going by viewer count?
jrke: he streams for chatting?
eulerscheZahl: i don't know, didn't watch more that 2 minutes on a block :D
AntiSquid: i think i watched once and he had some giveaway, toy or sticker something, i won it and i thought "shit i am taking a toy from some kids"
jrke: tell me your reviews over this - https://github.com/Jrkej/CG-submit-predictor..git
reCurse: Not sure it's all kids either
eulerscheZahl: the double dot in the URL triggers me
jrke: https://github.com/Jrkej/CG-submit-predictor. this one?
eulerscheZahl: so you play some games on the server?
eulerscheZahl: or how does it work?
reCurse: It's like submitting except slower
struct: I think it plays the games on ide
struct: starting from bottom
AntiSquid: 'that's cool
jrke: i am using trueskill for updating points and then choosing random opponent near that points and then again updating
jrke: it takes your code in IDE and plays match like normal replays
jrke: using CG servers
kovi: slower for first rank but faster for stabilization
jrke: output is like this - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735393675567431700/781908689023664158/Capture.JPG
jrke: and after all matches it shows you total no. of wins,ties,loses and winrate and thefinal rank
reCurse: To be quite honest you'd be better off directly batching against opponents near your bracket
kovi: well, that is only for top3-10 :)
kovi: for lower the theoretical question: how can you tell where you are?
reCurse: You submit and sample around your final position
kovi: which few players to play against
kovi: 100 games can be misleading both for you and the opponents around
jrke: using trueskill i think kovi it gives an good estimate
reCurse: I don't understand
kovi: my point is, if you play more games with a wider range (like final legend recalc) it can give more reasonable rating
eulerscheZahl: match_cooldown = 6#time in seconds to halt after each match
reCurse: Sure, but from an improvement perspective it's better to batch against specific opponents sampled around your range
reCurse: When you start >60% them all you'll climb
reCurse: Start over
kovi: ok, i understand and you are right
jrke: euler ?? why you pasted that here?
reCurse: So virtual submit is only wasting precious games imo
eulerscheZahl: i think you will get blocked with the 6s delay. CGSpunk used 20s
eulerscheZahl: and that's exactly when I stopped using it
reCurse: Yeah the safe delay is 20s
kovi: anyway...talking about delays...raice is 1 game per 20 minute or so...
reCurse: So halite
reCurse: Except significantly worse design
eulerscheZahl: testing 1 per 20min and about 1 rated match each hour
jrke: so should i make it 20 seconds instead of 6 seconds?
struct: how many players does raic usually have?
eulerscheZahl: a little under 1000
eulerscheZahl: the 2nd easiest tshirt of the year
struct: whats the easiest?
eulerscheZahl: easiest is hacktoberfest obviously
jrke: yeah my hacktoberfest t-shirt didn't shipped yet
jrke: easiest t-shirt
kovi: tshirt is easy, but hard to beat t1024
eulerscheZahl: you did hacktoberfest?
eulerscheZahl: by bullshit detector told me not to do it
jrke: i did hacktoberfest euler
dbf: eulerscheZahl what is opinion of your bullshit detector about raic for this year? :)
kovi: big prices
eulerscheZahl: will see, tshirt motivates me :)
kovi: last years 6th place looks much more tempting now
eulerscheZahl: but first https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5774f141c59462b06e77d826d14d052d7966
dbf: ah, is it tetris 3d?
dbf: I think I played it in school with i386 cpu
dbf: I also enjoy t-shirts, got some virtual prizes after yandex contest and no fun at all
C_Boy: grrr why does the validator only give me 60% when tests give 100%
reCurse: Because you have bugs
AntiSquid: oh you can rotate, thats cool
eulerscheZahl: you gave a bad command ;)
AntiSquid: but that's a weird error message
struct: its when referee crashes
struct: its normal stuff until you handle inputs
struct: which is a thing you leave to the end
eulerscheZahl: valid java code to do random actions:
eulerscheZahl: struct understands me :)
struct: euler how will it work, will testcases change the order that pieces appear?
eulerscheZahl: yes. and different pit size + tileset
AntiSquid: could just give out "error fix your code" otherwise it gives the impression it's your code that's faulty but ya it works with 0 0 0
eulerscheZahl: the original game has different versions too
eulerscheZahl: well, it's still not marked WIP because there's a lot missing
AntiSquid: can you still move th tile once it touches the bottom ?
eulerscheZahl: i plan to get it to a playable version during the weekend
eulerscheZahl: no, just drop it
AntiSquid: so can't get L unde a z
reCurse: Why are linux signals so effing weird
eulerscheZahl: i'll use my phone joker to answer that question
**eulerscheZahl calls dbdr
**dbdr calls JBM
reCurse: Every SO answer is contradictory and refers to a manual that seems to have changed 20 times in the past 10 years
eulerscheZahl: who ya gonna call?
**dbdr calls LinusTorvalds
AntiSquid: use 50/50 and only give half an answer
reCurse: All I want to know is if I can safely sigwait on a signal that has a handler -_-
reCurse: I am
dbdr: and of course: https://www.codingame.com/profile/6241fc3074285938fbab754d6d71047a1949611
AntiSquid: did you ask the question directly on SO and get any answers ? just curious
reCurse: Is it mutually exclusive with working on linux?
reCurse: No I wouldn't dare asking stuff on SO, 99% chance of being blocked/closed
AntiSquid: i agree, was wondering if you tried :P
miszu: AKCHUALLY this is a duplicate post. Please look at X link
reCurse: Well the same question has been asked multiple times
reCurse: Problem is the answer are all several years old
eulerscheZahl: short poll: who here ever asked anything on SO?
reCurse: And they quote a manual where the said quote can no longer be found
reCurse: Wasted the last hour trying to figure this out
reCurse: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
miszu: you could create a post saying the old posts are old and if something changed today
miszu: that would be reasonable
AntiSquid: I DID and i gave a disclaimer that the answers on google don't answer my problem and first post was : "hey you could have googled this" with a link to WRONG answer eulerscheZahl
dbdr: might have been reworded; I doubt the behaviour has changed
Westicles: First, 25 paragraphs on why using namespace std is bad. Then close for off topic
reCurse: Well it's been reworded to the point where absolutely nothing says what it used to say
dbdr: Torvalds is fanatic in presenting user-mode compatibility
miszu: could you simply do trial and error?
reCurse: It seems to work now
reCurse: And I hate "seeming to work"
miszu: use the word: high confidence
reCurse: Let alone the ridiculous fact SIGALRM terminates your process by default
reCurse: But installing an empty handler has consequences I can't predict
AntiSquid: i hate reddit for the BS vote system, but their tech subreddits occasionally give great answers
miszu: that's very low level you do
AntiSquid: so reddit > SO for asking it yourself unfortunately .
eulerscheZahl: i never asked myself on SO. but for looking things up it's a great source
reCurse: I self-taught python with SO
eulerscheZahl: i'm still in the process of learning how to code thanks to SO
MadKnight: eulerscheZahl u gonna play RAIC /'
AntiSquid: are you playing it MadKnight ?
eulerscheZahl: as usual MadKnight. minimum effort needed for goodies
dbf: have you got t-shirt for previous contest? I had mine only last week :)
eulerscheZahl: (last time i failed horribly: missed the finals at first, then needed sandbox top10)
eulerscheZahl: and over-performed there, getting me close to top10 in total
eulerscheZahl: today i got an email that it's on the way now
miszu: are the t-shirts actually nice?
miszu: or it's something you put in closet and never take it?
dbf: they are mostly ok (couple of them was low quality)
eulerscheZahl: the hoodie keeps me warm :)
AntiSquid: oh i remember i missed t-shirt range twice through unstable ranking submit ...
eulerscheZahl: and your mediocre bot
AntiSquid: regardless, was in range lol
AntiSquid: i think some default bots were in range :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: i don't think so
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 submit default and hope for shirt
Automaton2000: with all the test cases?
dbf: on some mini-raic there was a default improved bot created by one of participants and shared as an example, and it was a t-shirt level
eulerscheZahl: i only played the paper.io mini RAIC
eulerscheZahl: missed top6 on a coinflip
eulerscheZahl: was 6th before the very last battle :(
eulerscheZahl: that would have been a smartwatch
ItsNotABug: sorry for the maybe silly comment, but whats this RAIC stuff?
eulerscheZahl: russian AI cup
AntiSquid: royal air institute championship
eulerscheZahl: https://habr.com/ru/company/mailru/blog/530232/ there's a view preview
ItsNotABug: Ah, so its not the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada
AntiSquid: why do they show a gif of codecraft on the blog ?
eulerscheZahl: because it goes slightly in the same direction
eulerscheZahl: but i don't think that it's an advantage if you played codecraft
eulerscheZahl: they have D
AntiSquid: ok .
eulerscheZahl: someone just shared a weird replay on the forum https://www.codingame.com/replay/511388061
eulerscheZahl: frame 3, where does that blue come from? and why does only 1 player get it?
AntiSquid: boss cheating .
blasterpoard: it's viewer that's wrong
kovi: visual glitch, but someone paid on turn2
blasterpoard: 1/0/1/0 had 1 tax
eulerscheZahl: ah, right
struct: this blender stuff is not simple
PatrickMcGinnisII: what blasterpoard said, I noticed this too... the effective result is correct. However, when simultaneous taxes are paid ... the red player gets the benefit and blue doesn't get the currently added benefit from red. i don't think it's truly simultaneous
AntiSquid: i told you it's not struct
AntiSquid: have a go at unreal engine too
AntiSquid: blender takes a while to get used to
struct: I dont think ue4 can save as gITF, three js recomends it
AntiSquid: but you can transform 2d images into 3D objects there's some tut somewhere for that
AntiSquid: (in blender)
struct: ill check it thanks
struct: i know its 9x9 its supposed to be for shogi
struct: just wanted to play a bit with it
AntiSquid: 3D chess items shouldn't be too hard btw, just look up how to do a glass tutorial as example then you can see how you can do the pieces ... shogi pieces are simple
eulerscheZahl: you can also find lots of 3D models online
eulerscheZahl: once I found a planet express ship
AntiSquid: but where's the torment and the suffering in that?
struct: yes i was following a tutorial for chess
struct: he does the board + pieces in 10 minutes
struct: in real time
eulerscheZahl: i have colleagues working as CAD designers. they are really fast.
eulerscheZahl: i know how to design a cube. for a sphere I need a working internet connection :D
struct: oh nice
struct: I might not even need to learn blender at all
struct: thanks AntiSquid
eulerscheZahl: the classic Blender tutorial
eulerscheZahl: throwing hotkeys at you
struct: yeah and the version im at doesnt really help
struct: some stuff is in another place
struct: different icons
jacek: 3d chess?
jacek: as in graphics or several board chess
struct: jacek i wanted to port shogi
struct: and wanted to do 3d graphics
struct: to try it
miszu: why competitions are so far apart?
miszu: like next one is in May or something?
dbf: because they need resources to design and implement a new game
AntiSquid: and they also want to do something else ! :P
AntiSquid: like quest map / language upgrades / private contests ...
jacek: and people cant afford to allnighters every week
Drakkhonian: i FINALLY amanged to 100% https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/a-childs-play
Westicles: loop_found_flag, nice
AntiSquid: Drakkhonian here's the use that created it: https://www.codingame.com/profile/b12b98e075dfc70878c9c0b33f79db128934192 in case you are plotting something
Guinsoo: you only use accio in fantastic bits ?
kovi: wow, royale #1 at fall
struct: Is this a strat or off by 1 error?
MadKnight: RAIC starts in 10min guys
MadKnight: let's go
AntiSquid: for real ?
AntiSquid: the beta?
MadKnight: they already told what's the game
AntiSquid: everyone types russian on discord Q_Q https://youtu.be/YgGzAKP_HuM?t=231
miszu: cyka blyat
MadKnight: Automaton2000 say something in russian
Automaton2000: and i got no idea
MadKnight: Automaton2000 fix it
Automaton2000: yeah that would be very hard to tell if a sample is diagnosed or not?
miszu: Rush B Automaton2000
Automaton2000: especially if you have two ways to get a t-shirt
AntiSquid: goblin slayer manga reference
MadKnight: nice pic AntiSquid
miszu: I wrote 25 unit tests for my UTTT and still not done testing everything
AntiSquid: what's that link MadKnight ?
AntiSquid: imgur blocked in russia or what?
jacek: why would anyone ever write unit tests :v
Guinsoo: Wait A child's play is impossible
miszu: jacek lol
miszu: I call it a pro move
AntiSquid: how about writing unit tests to check grammar and spelling in the comments ?
ItsNotABug: well now i've got to have a go at a childs play :P
miszu: c++ optimizer, I need your advice on this function. Does it look okay?
Uljahn: there is an option to make LUTs for sqrt(log()) and inv_sqrt(), but has to be profiled
miszu: thanks. So it shouldn't really be a bottleneck
Astrobytes: It can be, but you need to profile to check
Astrobytes: sorry I didn't answer your PM miszu, been busy
tomatoes: optimize rollouts first
PatrickMcGinnisII: log(totalVisit)*2 is better imho inside the sqrt... and you can get rid of the floats altogether with proper scaling, but i digress
therealbeef: miszu does like his consts ;-)
PatrickMcGinnisII: even left shifting the nodecount before typecasting, but the log should force a typecast anyway
MadKnight: no it's not AntiSquid
MadKnight: okay now it loaded
ItsNotABug: Took a minute to deal with the edge cases, but done a childs play :D
miszu: therealbeef haha. If you can make them const why not? :P
therealbeef: i think it's a good habit and it won't hurt
miszu: but yeah PatrickMcGinnisII. I can put the 2 inside of the sqrt
miszu: so I avoid that floating multiplication
PatrickMcGinnisII: is returning by const when val is only calculated once really do anything?
therealbeef: but im not sure if they are useful on by-value arguments and return values
Astrobytes: const correctness is kinda all-in, you can mix and match a little but you'll end up in trouble :)
miszu: const to a primitive doesn't really do anything
miszu: Astrobytes by unit testing my engine, I found 3 bugs
Uljahn: also don't forget about exploration coefficient
miszu: so now I have high confidence of the correctness of my board
Astrobytes: Excellent! What were they miszu?
miszu: Uljahn the coefficient is the 2
Astrobytes: +1 for Uljahn's comment
miszu: Astrobytes 2 were the same mistake but in each of their own method. Basically when I win a small board, I put the win bit on a different board...
Astrobytes: lol, definitely not optimal :)
miszu: the 3rd one I found recently was when you can play anywhere you want, I only gave a local board to play
miszu: not the whole board
PatrickMcGinnisII: you can bitshift <<1 the fastint in the divisor, but as long as you don't put in extra () parenthesis the compiler ... oh nevermind...
miszu: why bitshifting?
miszu: you lost my with bitshifting here
Uljahn: the same as *2
PatrickMcGinnisII: float*2/fastint is fine
miszu: okay then
miszu: I really changed my mcts so Idon't use vecotrs
miszu: and don't create any extra objects
miszu: once I test a bit my MCTS, my sims goes brr
miszu: thanks all
miszu: this is my struct for node
Uljahn: parents can be tracked in a separate array
Astrobytes: ^ so you just need an int to track its index
AntiSquid: are you playing RAIC halite Uljahn ?
Uljahn: AntiSquid: no, im back to 2048
Uljahn: i don't like RAIC
Astrobytes: (defo Halite)
Uljahn: that too
MadKnight: Automaton2000 when Automaton2048 ?
Automaton2000: i had to google it
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: How is it? I've been busy so not checked it properly yet
ItsNotABug: Why are all the upvoted solutions for a childs play ones that dont even pass the test scenarios?
Astrobytes: Perhaps the testcases were changed at some point ItsNotABug
MadKnight: probably because they changed the test cases
Astrobytes: MadKnight ;)
MadKnight: they need to mark old solutions
Astrobytes: Yeah, I don't think they will tho'.
Astrobytes: Will you play RAIC MadKnight?
MadKnight: will see
ItsNotABug: ah. so their original test cases just didn't include all the test cases. shame they've kept the solutions for people who solve it after
AntiSquid: there is no versus implemented yet on the site, you need to train locally Astrobytes
AntiSquid: well it's just halite but more complicated
AntiSquid: with shooting ships
Astrobytes: if you look at solutions that have a later date ItsNotABug they might be more relevant
AntiSquid: and you can kill your own
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: yeah, was just wondering about the API etc
Astrobytes: I suppose round 2 will be where it goes nuts with the FOW
Astrobytes: *what with the FOW
AntiSquid: update my avatar just in case i change my mind ... it's a fake exorcist who throws salt to scare ghosts, which doesn't work, but charges people regardless https://russianaicup.ru/profile/AntiSquid
miszu: thanks all
Astrobytes: working better miszu?
Astrobytes: lol AntiSquid
AntiSquid: what about the api Astrobytes ? you get the start bot, add your strategy and can run it locally if you have the game environment downloaded and running
AntiSquid: i think you can upload zip too, but you're not meant to edit the API interaction
Astrobytes: sorry, just read the rules
struct: this blender stuff
struct: I want to make an irregular pentagon
struct: cant find how
miszu: Astrobytes I haven't run in the ide
miszu: I am writing tests in visual studio
Astrobytes: Ah ok
miszu: making sure there is no bug
Astrobytes: wise ;)
miszu: if I don't get legendary this time... I will be disapointed
AntiSquid: you could draw lines i believe to create a surface and then if you want to make it 3D use extrude struct
Astrobytes: Failures are lessons required for victory, don't worry about it miszu
Astrobytes: it's true :D
Astrobytes: Anyway, I am massively tired, see you all tomorrow
miszu: my failure was hidden bugs in my engine
miszu: now I strongly believe it will work
miszu: good night!
Astrobytes: gl miszu!
PatrickMcGinnisII: mesh a circle with a given step?
AntiSquid: when you import an image btw you can select the outline of an object on the image and extrude that into a 3D object too
AntiSquid: hm don't have it on this pc, but have some funny looking models from that
MadKnight: have u guys started RAIC already ?
ItsNotABug: jesus. I've download the pack for RAIC and dont have a clue what to do with it lol
MadKnight: check the Quick start
ItsNotABug: I have, not finding it very clear lol
therealbeef: Promotion to Gold League in : 00H 45MN 26SC, seriously? -_-
ItsNotABug: ouch. That for fall?
therealbeef: seems only 1 promotion per hour
ItsNotABug: is uttt ultimate tic tac toe?
struct: tyvm AntiSquid
MadKnight: what does it say ?
MadKnight: is it jap ?
struct: yes, its from board game shogi
MadKnight: u gonna play RAIC with us ?
Zenoscave: do goroutines work with CG?
struct: Im not sure ill play RAIC
MadKnight: it's kind of like warcraft
MadKnight: and they're giving starter bot
MadKnight: Zenoscave what are goroutines?
Zenoscave: golang lightwaeight concurrency
Zenoscave: They should work on single core computers
Bikoko: whats wrong with our server?
MadKnight: what's our server ?
MadKnight: Zenoscave i think we got one hyperthreading core so that makes it 2 threads on 1 core
Bikoko: it goes slowly
Bikoko: in cant test my code in clash
struct: site seems very slow yeah
ItsNotABug: Yeah, im trying to just run my code in ide, and its slow as heck
Y0ursTruly: oof my lag
Y0ursTruly: can't even click submit
Bikoko: not oly me feel like that?
MadKnight: Automaton2000 do u feel like it ?
Automaton2000: i'm not that good in the end i think
Y0ursTruly: oh 2 minutes later it finally subits
ItsNotABug: this is painful. Woulda thought after fall ending servers would be happy
MadKnight: oh is it back to normal again ?
catalactics: what happened to the servers?
catalactics: my testcases won't even run lol
ItsNotABug: Has anyone got a way to stop the page and discord on the right reloading every 5 seconds, and moving my cursor into the discord chat on an old convo that i dont even want open
Raynor1994: So uh, how do I start the ASCII art?
Raynor1994: I'm trying todo it in JS
Raynor1994: i skipped it for now
Raynor1994: what lang did u use?