HistoriCode97: Hello everyone
AlPaca: o/ good morning
AlPaca: we basically got the same solution, histori
AlPaca: i just shaved a little more off variables and indentation
Presac: Does a page with statistics/history of clashes exists?
Neumann: Is there a way in the player to move one substep at a time ? (i.e. in 2048, go 1 move forward/backward when 1 frame contains N moves)
wlesavo: i dont yhink threr is other than play button
wlesavo: lol those typos
Neumann: :D
Presac: It's so annoying when people better than you don't post their code in clash
Intp: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1435743f03a62c66ab2f5bad46a000995bd5558
Uljahn: Intp: clash invites are not welcome here, please post it in #clash
derjack: o:
AntiSquid: actually could just join one of the clash streams and player their viewer games ... if you really just want to play with others Intp
AntiSquid: play *
hpa: hi, I'm new here I get timeouted on hello world because of `ERROR: ld.so: object 'libstdbuf.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored`
hpa: could someone point me where should I look for a solution
Uljahn: hpa: this could be related to your issue
https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/bug-report-power-of-thor-episode-1/187020
hpa: thanks for reply, it is the issue, but there is no solution there. I'll try to investigate it myself
darkhorse64: My experience is that you should not have timeouts because of this (internal) CG error. It's most likely that your program does not answer in due time
hpa: yep, you are right, I outputed the answer to stderr, thanks for help
Shadowtick: hello
Saaalikh: Ello
Saaalikh: The website is just great ive been playing coc day in and out, have learnt a whole lot of new things. Just keep a pen and notebook with you and observe other's code and all the possibilities of solving a question just blows out my mind
Drakkhonian: holy cow i finally did the logically reasonable inequalities easy exercise
Drakkhonian: you guys sure thats easy level? cause i had to use recursion for it lol
Uljahn: check community solutions, there could be more simple approaches
Drakkhonian: i think ill do that before going for the next one lol
Drakkhonian: thx
GabbyGirl: hi
Mucahit: hi
Shadowtick: I think I might become level 36 quicker than I expected
darkhorse64: Only 22K XP to score. Easy
eulerscheZahl: why 22k?
eulerscheZahl: from lvl 0 to 36 requires 32k
eulerscheZahl: and he already has about 16k
darkhorse64: level 22 is 10K
eulerscheZahl: oops, my bad. somehow i looked at level 26 instead of 22
darkhorse64: No
darkhorse64: ?
Morgoth1st: Wow
Morgoth1st: Im lowly lvl 10
Morgoth1st: Pleb status
eulerscheZahl: don't worry, we'll judge you by your contest rank
Morgoth1st: That makes me feel better
Morgoth1st: I think
eulerscheZahl: only 2.5 weeks, hype intensifies
darkhorse64: This is all gamification. You progress fast at the beginning and it gets much and much harder when you're hooked
eulerscheZahl: and that's the point when you should start creating community contributions
eulerscheZahl: and keep them WIP for a bit
darkhorse64: In this respect, JBM has been a very efficient farmer
eulerscheZahl: 21 more upvotes and the contribution is worth as much as creating a whole contest :D
eulerscheZahl: from my own, limited experience creating a contest is a hell lot of work
AntiSquid: :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: joined the kutulu team 2 months before the contest, game was mostly finished. still a lot of time invested in balancing, polishing up, thinking about corner cases
darkhorse64: Whereas writing a board game is quite simple (if you discount any fancy animations)
eulerscheZahl: if you want to farm, CoC contributions have the best XP/effort ratio
AntiSquid: when is JBM releasing the game lol
darkhorse64: No game design (already done).
AntiSquid: but how do you know your coc isn't repeat
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/85832923a7f501f77a5bc337f8b2c96df0067d solitaire Q_Q
eulerscheZahl: for CoC duplicate questions are officially allowed
darkhorse64: How many XP for a Coc, puzzle ?
AntiSquid: lol funny
eulerscheZahl: 250 for any approved contribution
eulerscheZahl: +10 per upvote
eulerscheZahl: i complained about it 2 or 3 times on the forum, then gave up
eulerscheZahl: obviously a full blown multiplayer requires more effort and skills than a CoC
eulerscheZahl: and I think also adds more value to CG
darkhorse64: ^
AntiSquid: harder to stream doing multi than coc
eulerscheZahl: i used adblock to remove that streaming from the top bar :P
AntiSquid: only 1 person streamed a multi so far .
eulerscheZahl: i saw Haash i (fantastic bits) and someone with "tomato" in the nick (kutulu) within the last week
eulerscheZahl: that's 2 in my counting. and i didn't check the streams 24/7
Astrobytes: yeah I saw the haash i one, no others
Astrobytes: Be the change you want to see AntiSquid :P
eulerscheZahl: the tomato guy had a bug in his A*
AntiSquid: tomatoes
eulerscheZahl: creating new node instances all the time but not implementing Equals
eulerscheZahl: so he never reached the target node
AndrewRIGHT: Это пиздец ! тут русские есть?
eulerscheZahl: go to #ru
AntiSquid: see ? harder to stream multis
Astrobytes: lol, I didn't watch the haash i one because there was no mic apparently...
AntiSquid: might be bulgarian
AndrewRIGHT: Thanks!
AntiSquid: nvm
Astrobytes: Watching a silent stream must be enormously painful
eulerscheZahl: i heard some French speaking on the haash stream
Astrobytes: Yeah it was later at night, his wife was in bed apparently so no mic
AntiSquid: Това е прецакано! Има ли руснаци тук? - bulgarian for reference . i mean i can't tell the difference
eulerscheZahl: which is the same as silence for me
Astrobytes: :D
eulerscheZahl: and Go is the new puzzle of the week. But not the multiplayer version of it
AntiSquid: "If at least one of the moves in the list is not valid just print: NOT_VALID." =_=
Shadowtick: I am gonna get off so bye everyone have a great day
AntiSquid: helped him out
eulerscheZahl: i saw it. is that justified by moderation guidelines?
AntiSquid: he is spamming that
AntiSquid: too often
AntiSquid: we had a long conversation about it . he promised he would stop this bs
C_Boy: if(strcasecmp(&word[i], &word[i+1])) {
valid = 1;
}
C_Boy: what wrong with this?
LexFlex: Hi guys! I'm new to CG and pardon me for stepping in, is there a way to use the DevTools of Chrome in order to debug the code while the game is running? I saw there is an official extension to use in order to export/import the code in others IDEs but I need the DevTools only for the moment... is this possible?
LexFlex: Thank you guys
darkhorse64: No, you cannot debug your bot code under CG except by printing smth on the stderr console
AntiSquid: read comments in the starting code how to debug LexFlex
darkhorse64: Is "i" within array bounds ?
C_Boy: yes, I just kept getting valid=1 in result?
darkhorse64: strcasecmp returns 0 if chains are equals.
eulerscheZahl: do you want to check if they are equal or not equal?
eulerscheZahl: and i was too slow
darkhorse64: I beat you with my slow fingers !
Pouria2100: Hello
eulerscheZahl: was switching tabs
Pouria2100: Anyone uses brave here?
darkhorse64: no bad excuses
Pouria2100: or duckduckgo?
**eulerscheZahl uses Chromium
AntiSquid: brave what? OS ? browser ? ... etc
AntiSquid: oh nvm thought there was brave OS lol
LexFlex: Ah ok, thanks... @AntiSquid so do you mean using the suggested "console.error('debug...')"...
That's a pity :disappointed:
LexFlex: Thank you anyway!
AntiSquid: yes that is the one
AntiSquid: but you can output quite a lot with it
eulerscheZahl: or set up an environment locally
AntiSquid: what are you doing? you could setup offline and print to file (what i do sometimes)
eulerscheZahl: for the full debugging experience
darkhorse64: The easiest is to copy paste the input into a file and read this file while debugging. This way, you do not need to change your bot code. An even more advanced way is to save your state in a bitstream and read that stream back. This is extremely powerful but you need to instrument your code to do this
darkhorse64: In contests, it sometimes saves your skin
eulerscheZahl: meh, for the most cases that level of compression is total overkill
darkhorse64: Yeah, most of the time, console output is enough.
darkhorse64: The last time I used bitstream was for UTG for debugging suicidal bots
eulerscheZahl: i don't remember the input per turn being that large
darkhorse64: Here I needed the game state
darkhorse64: I mean my game internal state
eulerscheZahl: ah. in this case i just replay the whole match offline until i reach that turn
LexFlex: I usually use a lot of breakpoints and "watch expressions" while the code is running... I'm still a rookie in program developping so I really like to tear down the code and understand its behaviour "step by step"
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/53705/contest-tools-and-workflow/introduction
darkhorse64: Bitstream is only a snaphot at a given time when you may need a whole sequence
C_Boy: my bad in end!
eulerscheZahl: i get the idea of a memory dump to debug with
darkhorse64: Highly recommended reading
Pintago: hello , i got a probleme with the puzzle : stock exchage loses . all my test are ok , execpt the 5, i don't why he don't works
Pintago: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/stock-exchange-losses
Pintago: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f6dd1941-25be-4433-b6dd-7eca84a44a86
Pintago: i put what i do in C++
Pintago: if u can help me :)
darkhorse64: lol, my solution does not work anymore for test 5
Pintago: ooh :(
eulerscheZahl: mine still passes
LexFlex: Thanks @eulerscheZahl for the link!
LexFlex: Really worth reading it
darkhorse64: This test has many values. Brute force is defeated
eulerscheZahl: at some point stock exchange didn't check all corner cases. they modified a testcase
Pintago: what ?
VizGhar: He just said that your solution was incorrect even back then :D
Pintago: ok ok xD
Pintago: but i don't know how to do it else
Uljahn: i guess that while-loop is excessive, one for-loop is enough
Pintago: ok ok i got some idea with just the for but i don't know if it will change a lot
Pintago: thanks for yours advises
VizGhar: you can solve it in linear time, just a single for/while loop... but I assume it is not failing because of "timeout" right?
jacek: woo new puzzle of the week
jacek: oh its puzzle not a game
Pintago: thank you i finish this puzzle :D
MSmits: hey, anyone want to try something i put in my AI course?
MSmits: it's basically interactive BFS
MSmits: If you want to try, go here: https://trinket.io/library/trinkets/2f3651108d
MSmits: (click to place black walls, space bar to switch mode, then the turtle finds the path)
MSmits: i think i removed most of the bugs.
MSmits: the code is probably still a bit crappy
eulerscheZahl: i placed the walls, then clicked the play button
eulerscheZahl: walls are gone
MSmits: no you need to press run first sorry
eulerscheZahl: what should i click instead to run the BFS?
MSmits: run, then click on the squares to place walls, then click on empty squares to send the turtle there
MSmits: (sorry after you switch mode with space bar)
eulerscheZahl: clicking on empty sqaures adds more walls?
MSmits: yes sorry
eulerscheZahl: ah
MSmits: space bar first
MSmits: i'll add this explanation for the students
MSmits: they also dont see the code
MSmits: just the grid
eulerscheZahl: seems to work, well done
MSmits: yeah thanks :)
MSmits: I will add steps where you see explored cells change color
MSmits: as the algorithm runs
eulerscheZahl: as you said BFS: is there any visualization?
MSmits: like the one on redblob games
eulerscheZahl: other than the final path
MSmits: this is just the first animation to get them to wonder how it works
eulerscheZahl: ok, race condition at typing
MSmits: i will add one that shows the steps
MSmits: yeah :)
MSmits: once you get one to work, the others are easy
MSmits: python + turtle isnt the easiest when you're using it for visualization
MSmits: it's good for learning coding, not good as a visualization tool
eulerscheZahl: summary of my CG SDK experience
eulerscheZahl: the "not easy to start" part
MSmits: the thing is, stuff like pygame and tkinter and such doesnt really run in the browser and needs all sorts of installs
MSmits: so i dont have that many options
eulerscheZahl: javascript
MSmits: yeah, but i want to keep using python
MSmits: because the students only learn python
MSmits: i want them to be able to look at my code if they want to
eulerscheZahl: "they also dont see the code"
MSmits: yes, not in this version
MSmits: but i will be making multiple
MSmits: for different purposes
MSmits: in one case they will build up the BFS logic themselves
MSmits: so everything will be hidden except the actual BFS logic
MSmits: i will add an extra thingy for A*, using the same base
MSmits: for fast students
MSmits: I'm happy i found a way to visualize though. I am also thinking about the traveling salesman problem and teaching them greedy/hill climbing/SA/GA with that
MSmits: should be easy to visualize
MSmits: GA would just be some dials where they set the values and see how good the solutions become
eulerscheZahl: don't forget ants for the TSP
MSmits: what is ants again, i vaguely remember
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_colony_optimization_algorithms
eulerscheZahl: this adds a bit of domain specific knowledge to the problem
eulerscheZahl: that is the triangle inequation
MSmits: that is awesome. I actually have 2 students who are doing they last year thesis about swarm intelligence
MSmits: this is an example of that right'/
eulerscheZahl: yes
MSmits: ah right the wiki says so too
MSmits: thats great. I really need to code one of those, because it will allow me to help these guys better
MSmits: you just added a whole new section to my AI course :P
eulerscheZahl: whoops :D
MSmits: I'm doing this course in a closed system my colleague built up. But I'm enjoying this a lot. I might create an open system for it later
eulerscheZahl: a CG contribution
MSmits: hmm it's more tech.io I think?
eulerscheZahl: probably yes
MSmits: i will probably do something like that at some point
eulerscheZahl: a Cat likes to create puzzles. but some are just about implementing a known algo and might seem boring for codingamers
eulerscheZahl: for me: tech.io = learning
eulerscheZahl: codingame = fun part
MSmits: I think probably acat has students with more coding skills. I have to be real careful about that
MSmits: we allow everyone to choose CS in my school. Also students who dont do any natural sciences/math
eulerscheZahl: he's at a university. your students are younger
MSmits: well that too
eulerscheZahl: and you pinged him
MSmits: the thing is though, some of my students could easily follow his class
MSmits: i have a huge range in skill among my students
eulerscheZahl: i know
eulerscheZahl: makes it hard for you as a teacher
eulerscheZahl: either it's too challenging or boring
MSmits: yes, but it also makes the resulting material really good and flexible
MSmits: if you make it work that is
MSmits: you can't get lazy about anything
eulerscheZahl: giving grades gets challenging too, doesn't it?
MSmits: it does, but usually it works like this. Everyone who obviously worked at it gets at least the lowest passing grade and it goes up from there, asymptotically
MSmits: students that arent very good, but also dont work for it, might get low grades and not pass
MSmits: it's not easy to calibrate, but you adapt
eulerscheZahl: but if you have less previous knowledge, it will get harder to get a good grade. as you apply the same standards to every student
MSmits: the nice thing is that there is no national exam, so I set the bar. The bar might be lower or higher at another school
eulerscheZahl: the curse of a class with mixed skills to begin with
MSmits: yes
inoryy: why not set a higher baseline bar and give some references to prerequisite materials
MSmits: but my goal is always for them to learn new things and the guys/girls who are good at it, usually think it's fun so it doesnt matter for them that they automatically pass even if they do nothing. They like it so much they will keep going
inoryy: there are 1000000 intro to programming courses online, no?
MSmits: inoryy yes, but this sort of thing also requires a baseline of skill. Also some of them dont read English very well
eulerscheZahl: that's also a school decision, not only a teacher decision, isn't it?
inoryy: wait what age range are we talking
eulerscheZahl: 16-18
MSmits: hmm usually if there is no national exam, it's entrusted to the teachers
MSmits: 15-18 mostly
MSmits: my classes are often at the high range of this
MSmits: the school leadership only gets involved when things go wrong and students/parents complain
MSmits: usually
MSmits: with a national exam, they also get involved, but only when the grades are too low
inoryy: shouldn't English be a very high priority by this point?
MSmits: of course and many of them know English fairly well, but not all
MSmits: some struggle with it
MSmits: especially the kind of English a programming course would use
inoryy: fair enough
MSmits: my AI course is in Dutch, though i am trying to leave some part of the coding in English
MSmits: it is hard to translate some stuff and keep it easy for them to google
MSmits: inoryy do you know of any machine learning examples that train quickly enough that you can do it live?
inoryy: of course, what kind of area are you looking for?
MSmits: have a class of students all play a game against a system and watch it get smarter? Or do you need too many games
MSmits: could be any game
inoryy: oh, a game
MSmits: i think maybe even TTT takes too many games
inoryy: does it have to be live? the way most RL lecturers do is by showing snapshots at different iterations
MSmits: if it's not a game, I could use an AND or OR port with a truth table. Thats easy to train and a useful example right?
inoryy: e.g. here's the agent at step 0, at step 1000, at step 100000, etc
MSmits: nah, nothing has to be
MSmits: just looking for good ideas is all, snapshots sounds good
inoryy: I mean I'm sure there is something that could train live as well but can't think of anything flashy off the top of my head
MSmits: not flashy, but a truth tabel with AND/OR port works right?
MSmits: table
inoryy: oh yeah, I'm still talking about games
MSmits: ah ok, yeah games seems hard
MSmits: maybe Nim?
MSmits: Nim can be Q-learned at least
inoryy: with other tasks you can probably train basic image / text benchmarks to some good score live
inoryy: like MNIST on a colab
MSmits: ahh yeah i will for sure put that in
MSmits: whats nice is that this course really lets me broaden my own knowledge. I tend to dive down the first rabbit hole that crosses my path
MSmits: now I kinda have to write a GA, do some machine learning etc.
inoryy: if you don't mind a self-plug I have an example of SC2 based agents untrained : trained side by side from my bsc thesis project
MSmits: I would for sure show some YT examples of your agents.
inoryy: I'm sure there are better examples but that's what immediately comes to my mind :D
MSmits: do you have a channel somewhere?
MSmits: i do remember seeing your stuff, but it's been a while
inoryy: https://youtu.be/gEyBzcPU5-w
inoryy: though note that it's far from the full AlphaStar agent so not as flashy
LukeCloudwalker: Hey guys, I got sent a test by a potential employer. The test is hosted by this site. Does anyone have any expereiences with this they would like to share? Is it time based? Only coding questions? etc
MSmits: thanks inoryy
MSmits: LukeCloudwalker sorry I haven't done this, i know it's time based and you probably have to solve a puzzle or two
MSmits: if you want to practive, do some easy, and later on medium puzzles here and try to solve them within 15 mins or so
MSmits: practice
MSmits: try to have a good spread in different times
MSmits: types
MSmits: string / mathematical / graphs etc.
LukeCloudwalker: Ok, I hate time pressure :s Are the tasks given medium by default or does the employer chose?
MSmits: probably employer chooses, but I am just guessing here. I haven't done this myself
LukeCloudwalker: Thanks for the tips!
MSmits: np
MSmits: not sure if they also look at coding style btw. The employer might get to see your code
MSmits: these puzzles are solvable with horrible coding style of course
LukeCloudwalker: Wdym? Just how pretty the code is?
MSmits: readable probably
MSmits: not verbose, but at least readable
inoryy: MSmits oh btw for the most basic example this would probably work well? https://playground.tensorflow.org/
LukeCloudwalker: I find readable code important so it's probably not gonna be a problem
MSmits: oh yeah, thats cool, I knew that one inoryy
MSmits: it's basically data categorization
MSmits: LukeCloudwalker they will also understand that with time pressure your code won't be perfect
MSmits: I think even if you fail, you might get to explain what you were trying to do
Algonaute: @LukeCloudwalker I did one test few years ago. It's time based (more seconds for more difficult questions).
inoryy: it's classification on 2 classes, to the left you can pick the "dataset" distribution
Algonaute: but it's not the same as clashes
Algonaute: *of clans
inoryy: oh and on top-right you can switch the task to regression too
MSmits: of code I am guessing
LukeCloudwalker: Ok, thanks guys
Algonaute: it is very the same sort of questions in standard interview
MSmits: it's great inoryy. This one requires an indepth tutorial though, the first time i looked at it, i was a bit stumped
MSmits: so I might write a section around it, put the thing in an iframe with dutch text next to it
inoryy: iframe, now that's a word I haven't heard in a long time
MSmits: hehe... well people do still use plain html :)
jacek: iframe? from apple?
jacek: how much does it cost
MSmits: :grin:
MSmits: depends
MSmits: do you want the iframe 6 or the iframe 10?
PatrickMcGinnisII: MSmits u got the iframeX? :P
MSmits: nah, it's out of my reach
MSmits: need to make more :moneybag:
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm saving up for a rtx3080
MSmits: makes sense, you need some massive hardware if you want to get the same performance using PHP
PatrickMcGinnisII: funny
MSmits: :grin:
PatrickMcGinnisII: I just made GrandMaster using only php
PatrickMcGinnisII: finally
MSmits: yeah thats awesome
MSmits: you may be the best php-er :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: nope
MSmits: notice i did not say highest ranked
MSmits: rank and skill aren't the same
PatrickMcGinnisII: puzzlw od the week doesn't look fun
PatrickMcGinnisII: damn, where's my coffee i can't tpe
PatrickMcGinnisII: type
PatrickMcGinnisII: Imma switch to java on CG sometime this year, maybe next contest...
MSmits: would be cool to see what you can accomplish when you aren't fighting for cpu cycles
MSmits: java should do much better
PatrickMcGinnisII: I could fall flat on my face, but I certainly can't do worse
MSmits: well if you're good with java you'll do better for sure
MSmits: I started to like python, but not enough courage to try it for a contest
PatrickMcGinnisII: Gotta rep for the OGs
PatrickMcGinnisII: Only reason I hate PY is 'cause I have to interpret all the stuff in my head to look like C
MSmits: I mostly dislike the global variable thing
MSmits: it confuses me
MSmits: and yeah sometimes the float/int thing
MSmits: it's much easier to debug than c though :)
MSmits: c++ anyway
TwilightClown_935e: Hii how to play the game this
TwilightClown_935e: plase tell me
PatrickMcGinnisII: I use it for scripting in some graphics programs I use... It truncs numbers, i lose precision..and I don't know why
MSmits: yeah that's not fun
MSmits: you dont get a warning when it decides to make your float into an int
MSmits: there's some logic behind it and it's probably consistent, but you have to really look into it
MSmits: i had this problem doing bitboards. It would be a float sometimes and you do not want to bitboard with floats :P
jacek: bitboard with floats? what is this blashemy
MSmits: my point exactly
jacek: floating point
TwilightClown_935e: suggession any vedio ?
MSmits: right
TwilightClown_935e: how to play the game
MSmits: you cant play the game
MSmits: you program AI to play the game
MSmits: why play a game when the computer can do it for you
PatrickMcGinnisII: Wargames: "Want to play a game?"
PatrickMcGinnisII: Global Thermal Nuclear War
MSmits: yep
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmm, now how to cut/paste my Go code into the puzzle of the week
PatrickMcGinnisII: wow, clown left
MSmits: wait, did Trump give up the election?
jacek: i have functional bot othello but i still havent solved that othello puzzle
MSmits: meh, you don't have to solve the puzzle, you just have to solve everyone elses bot
PatrickMcGinnisII: FB is saying Biden's kid overdosed, oh gheesh, gotta fact check
MSmits: damn
jacek: trump is biden's kid?
MSmits: wow, I wish I could be this ignorant about the world. you must be much happier lol
eulerscheZahl: no, Hunter Biden iirc
MSmits: I know you're kidding :P
eulerscheZahl: i remember that discussion in the first TV duel between Biden and Trump
jacek: well with all this abortion protests here
jacek: why should i care about the others
MSmits: or about abortions
eulerscheZahl: Poland is a direct neighbor country and I know less about it than about the US
MSmits: eulerscheZahl, you watched that !?!?
eulerscheZahl: the highlight collection
MSmits: ah, you mean the least-low-light collection
eulerscheZahl: too much Trump interrupting to watch it in full
MSmits: yeah
jacek: Automaton2000 can make better sentences than trump
Automaton2000: i can only see it when i get home
Manhar: hehehehe
jacek: or AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/387625880
eulerscheZahl: An error occurred (#548): "Game not found".
jacek: game not found :c
jacek: what could it be
eulerscheZahl: i can tell what it can't be
MSmits: AutomatonNN that's fake news
AutomatonNN: emphy power of thor contribution
eulerscheZahl: power of thor is possible
eulerscheZahl: let's just say it's Thor
MSmits: https://www.hartvannederland.nl/nieuws/2020/coronabesmettingen-per-gemeente-2/
PatrickMcGinnisII: nope can't confirm HB OD, IG,twitter,FB blowing up tho ... prolly false news
MSmits: our map is as red as possible :/
inoryy: AutomatonNN do you welcome our AGI overlords?
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see a few more possibilities of moves to the corner and you can also
MSmits: thats it AutomatonNN, go stand in the corner!
AutomatonNN: which one?
inoryy: haha
eulerscheZahl: do i have to kick automaton again?
MSmits: lol...
eulerscheZahl: last time i did, it was afk for a full day
MSmits: really, is this automatic?
MSmits: or did someone just turn it back on?
inoryy: it was plotting revenge
PatrickMcGinnisII: for the rest of us https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hartvannederland.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2020%2Fcoronabesmettingen-per-gemeente-2%2F
eulerscheZahl: no idea if magus restarted the process
eulerscheZahl: but the kick was covered by moderation guidelines
eulerscheZahl: i repeatedly told Automaton not to ping me
PatrickMcGinnisII: it's got your #
PatrickMcGinnisII: number
inoryy: AutomatonNN should be given mod right and taught to /kick
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eulerscheZahl: oh, that again :D
inoryy: haha what
eulerscheZahl: fancy unicode
inoryy: why would that be in the training set
MSmits: this reminds me of those AI videos where the reward isn't properly calibrated or the simulation has a bug and they start to break things
MSmits: somehow it liks this unicode thingy
jacek: trolling is pretty rewarding
MSmits: likes
MSmits: yeah if you want attention it is
eulerscheZahl: i think it's a bug, Agade has no explanation why it should print that ̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ 𓀐𓂸
MSmits: it's emergent behavior
inoryy: proto-AGI
Manhar: koi madherchod hai yaha ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: we have .onion for sale ;)
PatrickMcGinnisII: ^ joke
Hjax: nothing beats when AlphaStar found a way to GG vs me when I beat it
Cybgy: How can I use CG chatbin?
Hjax: just paste directly into the chat, messages above a certain length go into the pastebin
Hjax: assuming its working todya
Hjax: today*
Cybgy: okay thanks will try
Hellivium: About weekly challenge, could you confirm me there are or not a mistake in game rule implementation ? I've heard only edge count as surrounding, not diagonal cells
Hellivium: Oh ! Nevermind ...
jacek: :o
jacek: YurkovAS still spam submiting bandas?
YurkovAS: jacek find small performance improve.
YurkovAS: jacek you store board state in tree nodes or recalculate each time?
jacek: i recalculate everytime
YurkovAS: store board states in separate big array (not in mcts tree node) give good performance improve.
jacek: bitboard?
ickoice: I'm new here, is this chat task specific or global?
YurkovAS: yes, compact state with uint8_t
jacek: ickoice global
ickoice: thanks
jacek: how may we help you, Sir/Madam
Mr.Roi: whats up
AntiSquid: yes
jacek: Automaton2000 what is the best game in this site
Automaton2000: but then it's just a matter of time
DomiKo: Automaton2000 but which one
Automaton2000: but if you just want a tshirt
DomiKo: Automaton2000 yes
Automaton2000: and i'm working on that
DomiKo: Automaton2000 where I can get tshirt?
Automaton2000: when you read the input
DomiKo: Automaton2000 which one?
Automaton2000: lol i didn't even notice
Aliot2000: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1436687bbbf0c83cfc3688ac3ecd28133ce1e84
AntiSquid: #clash Aliot2000
Aliot2000: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/14367120fec17b104ffe6af490a7bd0ddab2617
uvaishzafri: phew!!
AntiSquid: greetings
uvaishzafri: you guys do competitive programming?
uvaishzafri: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/91b8045d-c17f-402f-a303-3f4e38504468
sneusse: is it just me or is the "small code" challenge basically a "i can code ruby or I loose" challenge?
Aliot2000: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/14367761b040ee9d4cada7923d90836fa6baf9f
JavonCity: sneusse, bash is short too haha. But basically. So I like to check every code by language to compare on private clashes
sneusse: well c#/c/c++ remains pretty useless
sneusse: can I filter for only the reverse challenges?
JavonCity: its good for bitwise>
JavonCity: on private clashes you can filter
sneusse: ah ok
LastRick: Not on public
sneusse: thx
sneusse: They should add "most" efficient or "least cycles" :D
miracle: IMHO the reverse challenges are not really helpful for improving coding skills.
sneusse: actually none of them are :)
LastRick: but they are helpful for understanding algorithms
sneusse: maybe except fastest
sneusse: imho most of them are more like random puzzles
JavonCity: anybody up for private? we can do some reverse?
miracle: The fastest mode requires quick problem understanding and problem solving (albeit not necessarily efficient). The shortest mode sometimes requires finding the simpliest solution as well as exploiting language features that one might not be aware of.
JavonCity: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/14368487d922dde5e4ac4efc2dd3c7f9747ccc5
d2hf: hi
d2hf: who can find me a job
GoogleJeff: you're hired!
GoogleJeff: j/k i can't actually hire people
Sarzorus: Honestly, seeing d2hf's comment made me a little happy. Job searching has been gross lately.
Sarzorus: Even though I know it's not just me I'm glad to see it isn't just me
d2hf: hahahaha bro
d2hf: hook me up with dat job
d2hf: i need chedda
GoogleJeff: :(){ :|:& };:
KiwiTae: there are tons of jobs
KiwiTae: depends what u looking for
KiwiTae: maybe u can improve how you sell yourself for them hehe
daniellf99: :money_mouth:
d2hf: i was just testing you
d2hf: i am hiring here
d2hf: congrats GoogleJeff, you just matched the profile I'm searching for
daniellf99: :scream_cat:
KiwiTae: :joy:
d2hf: :bug:
d2hf: found a bug in the chat
Drakkhonian: holy cow i finally did the logically reasonable inequalities easy exercise
