VuHoangHiep: larryNY invite me
jacek: good morning
jacek: thats like non-objected delphi eh
Unkmar: DanielBikkr: use standard error. stderr or something like that in C.
Uljahn: To debug: Console.Error.WriteLine("Debug messages...");
Uljahn: should be in the commented lines in the stub
jacek: :wave: i win
Uljahn: gratz :first_place:
jacek: recaptcha is banned in china :?
Joseph_Mother: china sucks man
Joseph_Mother: theyre genociding the uyghurs
darkhorse64: Don't read propaganda
darkhorse64: There ample testimonials from uyghurs from what is really happening. There is absolutely no doubt
darkhorse64: *There are*
S3na: blah blah blah everyone hates turks everyone said we do all bad things but we didn't kill 5 billion jewish
S3na: just for fun
darkhorse64: godwin point reached !
S3na: no problem, still the world thinks we are riding camels.But there is no such thing in our culture.
S3na: our every turks are muslim etc.
S3na: We only have a problem of expressing our political opinions.Because of the last president except that we don't have much a difference
Batfly: Whatever, the problem is rarely the peoples in general, but more the fem ones with powers (and I don't any any legitimate ones, even with elections....).
Batfly: *few ones
Batfly: *any have
Uljahn: it's frustrating how ongoing Assange trial is a media non-event
jacek: woo new puzzle of the week
JFB: Uljahn - exactly
Metanoob: World is catching up with social distancing
_Nilu_: keep practise
Thecodekid123: :sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/db8688a7-0a04-46fc-9334-fcb9268f16ce
AntiSquid: no flooding @_@
elderlybeginner: is there a thread/post about insides of CG? Size of servers, technology, amount of data, hardware?
AntiSquid: what programs do you want to make Thecodekid123?
AntiSquid: no, but you are confused with what i said .
AntiSquid: don't flood emotes in chat .
2ndwolf: the crying smiley was an emote, don't send multiples times the same emote, one is enough
AntiSquid: we talked in DM, all good now
eulerscheZahl: direct message
Astrobytes: (not really)
eulerscheZahl: poor jacek is not
Astrobytes: He refused the offer
Astrobytes: Yeah, and I'm Aladdin
Aravindhsiva: Anyone can join
Astrobytes: Aravindhsiva: clash invites in #clash please :)
eulerscheZahl: can we just add a regular expression to Automaton2000 to tell users not to share their clash invites here?
Automaton2000: and we can't really use them
eulerscheZahl: @Magus :angel:
Astrobytes: That would be really useful
eulerscheZahl: calm down
AntiSquid: getting kinda emo mate
AntiSquid: click at the top the drop down next to your name
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/settings scroll to the bottom
Astrobytes: close the window, leave, don't return
AntiSquid: i can help with chat ban btw
AntiSquid: you can't trust the others, so only ask me
Magus: eulerscheZahl: Well, Automaton2000 is opensource, but i think Codingame does not want a not-cg-bot talking about moderations/rules
Automaton2000: i don't think it's too much for the help
eulerscheZahl: ok, then you won't see a pull request
AntiSquid: listen to Automaton2000, he makes a good point
Automaton2000: so i need to check the referee
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: it's so easy to get
Magus: https://github.com/dreignier/cgbot-core :D
Magus: the core of Automaton2000
Automaton2000: madknight did you see that
AntiSquid: do you want the ban Thecodekid123 ?
Magus: Automaton2000 is a just a plain old C++ command line program running behind a NodeJS XMPP client :D
Automaton2000: hi new to this site than clashes :o
AntiSquid: are you sure? sounds as smart as a clasher to me
Magus: it's funny, i didn't remember that i have a "blacklist" variable in Automaton2000. No one made a pull request to change it to "outlist" or whatever we have to call it now.
Automaton2000: i dont know if i should start working on it
Magus: Nope, you don't rewrite your own code. We already argued on it. I don't want a Skynet child.
AntiSquid: your wish is my command
eulerscheZahl: he didn't even see your last line :(
eulerscheZahl: wait, is blacklist a racial discrimination now?
AntiSquid: about your alt?
Astrobytes: eulerscheZahl: yes, blacklist and whitelist are not so great
AntiSquid: i am wondering if you can call black people black anymore
eulerscheZahl: can i still call a power outage a blackout?
AntiSquid: had a conversation with a black guy actually just about this, he said "hey i am calling that guy black because he is black, no idea what the fuss is all about"
AntiSquid: the only real discrimination imo is to not acknowledge mixed people . everyone just talks about black vs white, everyone else is swept under the rug ...
Uljahn: how do they call Black Fridays and black holes now?
2ndwolf: I think blacklist would be considered discriminating because it has a negative meaning
Astrobytes: When did anyone say you can't call black people black? All my black friends (African and Caribbean) refer to themselves and identify as black people
Astrobytes: 2ndwolf: correct
AntiSquid: being overly sensitive has negative implications
Astrobytes: blackout is fine afaik, as well as brownout. I may be wrong
AntiSquid: imo don't mix unrelated things is best
DomiKo: in my country, we have cake named "cycki murzynki", which is a little bit less aggressive version of "nigger's boobs"
Astrobytes: DomiKo: Can you *** out that word in future please
DomiKo: I thought that would be auto ***
DomiKo: there is no ***???
Astrobytes: there is no filter on the chat no
jacek: that works only with password
jacek: welp https://i.imgur.com/P9PcGzu.jpg
DomiKo: so my bad
DomiKo: -10 points for gryffindor
Astrobytes: Just hope Automaton doesn't choose to say that one
jacek: Automaton2000 or AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: so it is better than you
DomiKo: AutomatonNN can you say Automaton2000?
Automaton2000: try it and see what they do with the game to be a hard one
AutomatonNN: hey air
eulerscheZahl: -10 for Griffindor? you seem more like Hufflepuf :P
Hjax: oh i see we were talking about the censoring of the word master everywhere
eulerscheZahl: i'll go shopping with my leader card then
Hjax: im yet to find a person of color to who actually offended by things like that, it always seems to be that people get offended on the behalf of people who dont care either way
Hjax: seems like we are fixing non-problems so we can feel good about being progressive, while ignoring the real problems
DomiKo: there are real problems?
Astrobytes: "cancel culture" yeah. Divert from the real issues
Astrobytes: Ban a word and clear your conscience of racial profiling, murder, discrimination, hate crimes
Hjax: and yet those things continue, unimpeded, without the word
Hjax: the thing that stuck out to me recently was accounts of people getting resumes rejected, and then submitting a resume with a more white sounding name
Hjax: and getting an interview
DomiKo: there are some problems with interviews
Astrobytes: Yeah, I worked under a chef like that once. Threw out any CV that didn't have an "English sounding" name
DomiKo: like interviews only for women
AntiSquid: yes Hjax . people get offended on behalf of others
Hjax: this was also a super interesting example recently
Hjax: a lawyer getting mistaken for a defendant over and over because of her race
Astrobytes: Yeah, I read that the other day
Hjax: thats the kind of thing i hadnt even considered happening, reading her account of it really changes your perspective
AntiSquid: so if they find the defendant guilty they arrest the lawyer or what? lawyer then shouts i am not the defendant and they reply "don't resist arrest!"
Astrobytes: People used to think the UK was really progressive, and it was getting somewhere, but we're back to 70s era racism again.
Hjax: USA too
AntiSquid: is that really a case of racism (the lawyer thingy) or just plain stupidity? i mean come on you got to be dense to make that mistake
Hjax: 3 different people racially profiled her to be a criminal
Hjax: in the same day
Astrobytes: Of course it's racist, it's negative stereotyping
AntiSquid: so 3 stupid people she met with in the same day
Hjax: i dont think how smart the people are affects how awful it is to racially profile someone like that
eulerscheZahl: but it shows a problem in the society
eulerscheZahl: in this case it's clear that she's innocent
eulerscheZahl: but imagine a crime being committed and searching for a suspect
AntiSquid: well it shows the wrong people are hired in the legal system .
AntiSquid: and that is worrying for everyone
Hjax: the lawyer is just calling for better racism training for employees in the legal system
Hjax: which i think is reasonable
Hjax: racism is largely born of ignorance
AntiSquid: i rather them filter out people that shouldn't be working there
Hjax: Astrobytes it reminds me of selfies people post on twitter, middle eastern looking man with the caption "time to get *randomly* searched at the airport!"
Astrobytes: Yeah. Exactly right. Total joke. And don't get me started on stop and search.
Hjax: there was a post on TIFU on reddit a while ago from one of the biggest redditors
Hjax: i think hes from Lebanon? anyway he was on a flight to a business meeting and went into the bathroom to shave quickly since he didnt have time before his flight
Hjax: and the crew thought he was hijacking the plane and panicked
AntiSquid: imo reddit upvote economics is rotten in its own way
Astrobytes: Classic "Fear of brown person" there Hjax
2ndwolf: wooh lvl10
Astrobytes: grats 2ndwolf
Hjax: found it
Astrobytes: Greek/Lebanese with a beard. My sisters fiancé is Greek-Cypriot, he has a big bushy beard, moved up from London to Scotland and the amount of racism he experiences is unreal. "Arab terrorist" "bomberman" "cloth head" etc. etc. he's like WTF I'm Greek!
Astrobytes: That poor dude, what an experience
Astrobytes: I remember that one euler
Hjax: oooooooo math
Hjax: so scary
AntiSquid: ya lots of europeans can easily get a strong tan
Hjax: i know the USA was racist against italian americans for a while, which is like half of my family tree
Schwase: does anyone know why my stub generator for OCaml has an "End_of_file" exception?
Astrobytes: Schwase: It's the code that's generated I believe, even if stub is correct. See this post: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/community-puzzle-dungeons-and-maps/185975/3
Astrobytes: *thread not post
AntiSquid: imo anti-irish sentiment was one of the weirdest things to read about
Hjax: for a country that championed itself on being a melting pot, theres been a lot of racism against migrant groups here
Astrobytes: Anti-Irish was common when I was growing up, The Troubles were ongoing, IRA bombs and whatnot. Was terrible what some of my friends and neighbours experienced.
Hjax: people forget that their own great grand parents were probably immigrants to the USA
Astrobytes: Now it's the Muslims who get it in the neck.
Astrobytes: Minority of the moment and all that
Schwase: Astrobytes i have more information on why the issue occurred, I think that multi-embedded loop commands are the cause of the issue since it was resolved by changing a two-command loop argument to a 1 command string/readLine command
Scarfield: South Park has a pretty cool episode where people (goo-backs) time travel back from the future. There is only one race, because of "mixed" genes. But even if that happens IRL one day, people would still find other things to hate about each other
Schwase: can i reported this somehow?
Schwase: hey my aunt got a peabody for working on south park
AntiSquid: yes Hjax but there is also the other extreme of "let everyone in" even undocumented
Schwase: *can i report this somehow
Scarfield: nice xD
Astrobytes: Ah interesting, sure, either on Discord or make a forum post Schwase
Hjax: sure AntiSquid, but the people that make a fuss often cant tell the difference between legal immigrants and illegal ones
Hjax: and just assume everyone of a race they dont like is an illegal immigrant
JFB: AntiSquid - what you have against squids? ;-)
Hjax: he has nothing against squids, but if he touches one they will annihilate
Astrobytes: "XD" Scarfield
AntiSquid: i think they should wear a helmet and drive more carefully JFB
jacek: pegasi, unicorns and earth ponies can live in harmony. why can't we?
Hjax: people have some desire to feel superior to each other i guess
Astrobytes: argh, another Friendship is Tragic pony reference
Hjax: reminds me of the starbelly sneetches
Astrobytes: Power, exploitation, ignorance, fear of "the other"
Astrobytes: sneetches, that was the Dr Seuss one right?
Astrobytes: Yeah, just like that
Hjax: that story has always fascinated me, because its a really accurate political commentary
Hjax: in a childrens picture book
Astrobytes: Yep. Kids are really open to these things too. Racism is passed down through parents mostly
JFB: Old good "divide and conquer"
Schwase: astro would it be wrong to re- @ thibaud?
AntiSquid: lol getting spammed in PM by emote kid
Astrobytes: No, that's fine Schwase
Astrobytes: Yes JFB
Astrobytes: AntiSquid he tried PMing me earlier, I just ignored him
Astrobytes: hahaha, oh dear
AntiSquid: no way to ignore the "brother" 's PM?
Astrobytes: Just close the window or don't respond
eulerscheZahl: i just got a PM saying "#clash"
AntiSquid: respond with #CSB
Astrobytes: lol, trolling on point
Astrobytes: thanks for the posts Schwase
eulerscheZahl: oh, i closed the chat already :(
Scarfield: if a film/sheet could be made with only 1 molecole thickness, would it technically only have one surface?
AntiSquid: even better link them your puzzles :p eulerscheZahl
Schwase: scarfield no
Schwase: you can look into lead microfibers
AntiSquid: say you clash when they solve Space Maze
Schwase: they are still physically bounded
AntiSquid: could even put it in your profile
eulerscheZahl: oh no, that one guy trying to solve it was painful enough
Schwase: only topology currently has any sort of theory on single surface objects
Schwase: but they are topological discussions :D
Schwase: so at your own risk as they say
eulerscheZahl: g-rom mentioned that our puzzle contributions might appear on our profile in the future
eulerscheZahl: along with the playgrounds
Insufficient: mobius strip came to mind there
AntiSquid: oh so encouragement to spam clash problems?
AntiSquid: "i have 99 clashes, give me the job"
eulerscheZahl: 99 bottles of clash on the wall
Scarfield: yea but it would still have 2 sides, but technically to have 2 surfaces, i would guess there would have to be something in between for it not being just one surface
AntiSquid: add a tease to the strip
Astrobytes: Godwin twice in 1 day
AntiSquid: did you practice any more CTF problems eulerscheZahl ?
eulerscheZahl: i'll be that teammember that's a disappointment to everyone
AntiSquid: did you guys change your mind? lost interest?
eulerscheZahl: i'll still intend to play
eulerscheZahl: on oct 8th
AntiSquid: i watched their youtube vids, they said something about a problem related to asymmetric and symmetric encryption
eulerscheZahl: that's not surprising
AntiSquid: no, it's a hint
eulerscheZahl: symmetric for the easy ones (xor or alike) maybe RSA for the later ones
eulerscheZahl: i don't see that as a hint or spoiler, it's what I would have expected
eulerscheZahl: btw the penguin game is now officially pending
eulerscheZahl: that's your job jacek
jacek: maybe simple floodfill will suffice
Astrobytes: Grrr. No time til next week.
eulerscheZahl: the other 2 board game addicts have approved already
darkhorse64: We are more than two. We are legion
eulerscheZahl: it's live
AntiSquid: i bet it was properly tested
Astrobytes: The board games tend to be properly tested for the most part
eulerscheZahl: better than a möbius contest :imp:
AntiSquid: submitted for +1 tag
eulerscheZahl: in D?
eulerscheZahl: of course, stupid question
2ndwolf: I would have expected chuck norris to use butterflies to shift bits and send his messages
Astrobytes: Oh, donno that one
AntiSquid: if bruce lee lived longer would he get memed too?
Astrobytes: hahaha, nice. Thanks for linking it for me
PatrickMcGinnisII: butterfly effect?
jacek: yay im 1st on the league
jacek: in the contribution
PatrickMcGinnisII: Someone is trying to hack me thru this chat, yesterday and the day before
Astrobytes: with random windows with random numbers?
PatrickMcGinnisII: can they get IP info thru this?
Astrobytes: *chat tabs, not windows
eulerscheZahl: and a 2nd world channel
Astrobytes: If any of the above, it seems to be a bug
**eulerscheZahl doesn't know your IP PatrickMcGinnisII
2ndwolf: sometimes I get flooded with tabs after entering clashes
AntiSquid: ya whats up with that bug?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I also had a nvidea share process go bad on me ... someone trying to hit my card?
Astrobytes: One should open for each clash 2ndwolf, you can close it if you don't need it
AntiSquid: rand number tab
Astrobytes: Seems connected to PMs from external clients AntiSquid, not sure. Reported it yesterday anyway
PatrickMcGinnisII: yea, wierd # popped up...someone botting from here into another user
PatrickMcGinnisII: yesterday, tried reconnecting (tab) w/ me over and over
PatrickMcGinnisII: consistent notification bleeps, but no notification
jacek: could be... ghost?
PatrickMcGinnisII: seems like a flash injection into a bad image object
PatrickMcGinnisII: CG got some holes
PatrickMcGinnisII: me thinks
PatrickMcGinnisII: If it happens again, I'll greasemonkey it
Astrobytes: maybe it's that skiddie from the other day, trying to pwn CG from Lua
PatrickMcGinnisII: Well, Discord is rampant with new injections, cookie snatchers
AntiSquid: organized cyber crime is on the rise
PatrickMcGinnisII: MadKnight your peoples trying to cookie snatch before the US election? *chuckle*
PatrickMcGinnisII: My server won't run without RPC, wth ... maybe i should shut it down
Astrobytes: PatrickMcGinnisII ru govt != ru people
AntiSquid: https://interestingengineering.com/7-countries-having-the-majority-of-hackers PatrickMcGinnisII
eehh: if dist_1 < dist_2: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/18f18591-e46e-4cdf-a16c-2422c5e054ca
AntiSquid: actually its more about criminal enterprizes than governments Astrobytes
PatrickMcGinnisII: Ethiopian just hacked FB, jacked up peoples FB Pay to a worldbank acct. # . I don't think they got any $, but they definitely tried dropping a soc. media worm
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: I use the term "government" loosely
PatrickMcGinnisII: Fb opened the door with there Sept. update
AntiSquid: Eehh ?
AntiSquid: #clash eehh .
Astrobytes: is that our child troll from earlier?
jacek: thatsnot clash
eulerscheZahl: wow, harsh
AntiSquid: oops then clash is ruined by this guy?
PatrickMcGinnisII: run away jacek
AntiSquid: lol that guy really went to clash .
AntiSquid: kidcoder .
EliTheCoder: is noopatjntsu a bot?
MadKnight: is Automaton2000 a bot ?
Automaton2000: ok that was a problem with the same issue
eulerscheZahl: is that a new account or did you get unbanned?
eulerscheZahl: next: TheCoolKid123
eulerscheZahl: enough other mods online to deal with you behave well or you'll risk another ban ;)
eulerscheZahl: good night
2ndwolf: he's probably in another time zone
2ndwolf: you america centric kid
2ndwolf: I live east of you
2ndwolf: I hm think
2ndwolf: hmmm neither, I don't think you were up for an ip ban they just banned the account
MadKnight: > so i was banned and now i am back
WOW THAT IS INSANE!!!11
jacek: thats mad
zeesop: polynomial coefficients in a codeclash. FML.
Astrobytes: Wanna ban again?
Uljahn: Automaton2000: they're banning my chat, should we sanction them?
Automaton2000: so i am not in a function
PatrickMcGinnisII: cute https://www.codingame.com/replay/489752711
Project-Magenta: where is the automatn robot
DomiKo: Automaton2000 here
Automaton2000: it's time to get an idea
DomiKo: you need to beat him in points
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Flat_Erick wait a few hours
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Which one is this?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: How do get arccos in python?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Math.arccos ?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: nvm got it
MadKnight: inichiwa ?
MadKnight: or wait, maybe konichiwa?
MadKnight: would make more sense
MadKnight: oh and what would be the i symbol?
MadKnight: everyone learned japanese, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: yeah it's a bit confusing
MadKnight: we gotta catch up with everyone Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i have to check if it is in the right direction
MadKnight: we gotta find a japanese companion Automaton2000
Automaton2000: but if there are two ways to get to gold
MadKnight: DaNinja u wanna speak some jap?
MadKnight: is that no or yes
MadKnight: was kinda confusng since no sounds kinda like yes and yes - like no
MadKnight: if everyone asks Automaton2000, will he stop no from sounding like yes?
Automaton2000: what do you mean by that
MadKnight: if everyone asks AutomatonNN, will he stop Automaton2000 from sounding like AutomatonNN ?
Automaton2000: is that how you got to do with them
AutomatonNN: gonna be a moderator
MadKnight: hmm first one looks like ka
MadKnight: or na
MadKnight: is that nani ?
MadKnight: that's a reference to an old meme
MadKnight: things get old pretty fast
MadKnight: Automaton2000 is a bot, he generates random messages
Automaton2000: did you see the result
MadKnight: Automaton2000 say Yes
Automaton2000: go fix it and get a new one
MadKnight: there's even a puzzle - Create your own Automaton2000?
Automaton2000: did you do to get out of the box
MadKnight: and there's github repo with Automaton2000 sources
Automaton2000: do you update thor's position
MadKnight: and AutomatonNN is a neural network that generates responses
AutomatonNN: what are you trying to do?
MadKnight: and there is a few NN bots at the top of leaderboard of that racing game with pods
MadKnight: submit and get #1
MadKnight: Submit button
MadKnight: gimme screenie
MadKnight: yea last one is the one
MadKnight: it says u got rank 1k446
MadKnight: just use the boost
MadKnight: and the angle?
MadKnight: if not facing the opposite dir? then boost?
MadKnight: angle can be negative
MadKnight: -167>90 won't work
MadKnight: show me the new code
MadKnight: show it
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: I have a question
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: I need to find the length between 2 points on a circle, following the arc formed
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: But the equations I'm using don't seem to work
I'm using the second answer. Can anyone help?
2ndwolf: I'm guessing if you have the radius, you could do from the angle created from forming a triangle with one of its sides being the shortest path between the two point. From the angle, being a fraction of 360 you could get the same fraction of the circumference.
2ndwolf: I know nothing about these things but from the top of my head I'd try that.
2ndwolf: oh sorry that's what the answer says XD
2ndwolf: can't help then I figured you'd look up the details