jacek: happy Caturday
eulerscheZahl: brevis == blue force in discord?
eulerscheZahl: you go to the contribute section and upload it
jacek: another tic tac toe or pong?
jrke: happy caturday
eulerscheZahl: 2048 @jacek
eulerscheZahl: will be fun to keep it within the CG limits for a longer game :D
eulerscheZahl: why is it so hard to clone a 2D array in java? :/
jacek: i was thinking of 2048 but maybe something like 512 on 3x3 would fit
eulerscheZahl: 2048 works too, if you give the seed as input and allow multiple turns in 1 player interaction
eulerscheZahl: so the player knows where the next tile will spawn
eulerscheZahl: but you have to do the UI in JS without the SDK or it will be too big
jacek: JS? im out
eulerscheZahl: fine, then it's me again...
jacek: also, with known seed, expectimax becomes just minimax?
eulerscheZahl: yeah, removes an aspect of the game :(
eulerscheZahl: 10kB for 167 frames i think that should get smaller
eulerscheZahl: 6kB if i completely remove the graphics entity module
Unkmar: Somebody needs to fix the channel thing. I keep leaving the same channels over and over again.
MadKnight: Unkmar u can just use any of external clients
MadKnight: any xmpp client can work for CG chat
eulerscheZahl: Jacek got your 2048 running, kind of... but the UI is all in JS https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/54927e7306266ad2583c95cbf8e3872d6def
jrke: oh 2048 a well known game
Astrobytes: I suggested that one ages ago but nobody went for it
Astrobytes: Should work well on here I think
AntiSquid: lots of games won't work well on CG with the frame limit
jrke: hey astrobytes :)
Astrobytes: hi jrke :wave:
MSmits: I'm in my new house, it's a mess still
MSmits: officially don't even have internet, but someone nearby has an open access point somehow
Astrobytes: Thief! :D Great when that happens
MSmits: yeah :)
MSmits: doorbell doesnt work so i've been sitting by the door watching netflix waiting for the mechanic that installs my internet so i can watch netflix
Astrobytes: hahaha, brilliant
MSmits: I have been having a weird sound problem with my laptop lately. Whenever I used the HDMI beamer at work, my sounds doesnt work anymore afterwards
MSmits: when i get back to work i can fix it by changing the output device back and forth a few times
Astrobytes: driver issue perhaps
MSmits: it's like the beamer hijacks the output and doesnt give it back after disconnect
Astrobytes: Conflicting drivers maybe
AntiSquid: that reminds me of that one time where i was leaching wi-fi from the hotel next door at a place i used to rent
Astrobytes: system restore, update the drivers, roll back if necessary
MSmits: hmm yeah but i can restore sound by going back to work and connecting the beamer
AntiSquid: is it leaching or leeching in this context? can't tell
MSmits: what is leaching ?
MSmits: i know leeching
AntiSquid: leach is to drain
Astrobytes: like when particles from a solid are absorbed into a liquid
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: so what is leeching then ?
AntiSquid: i guess depends how much of their bandwidth i drain ?
AntiSquid: being parasitical sort of
MSmits: hmm ok
MSmits: so just a matter of degree then
Astrobytes: yeah, taking a service or commodity that isn't yours, bandwidth, CPU etc
Astrobytes: that leech put up a helluva fight!
MSmits: your scorpion video just fixed my sound
MSmits: I am bookmarking this video
MSmits: there's a chance this was caused by the driver update, but i am betting on the scorpion video
eulerscheZahl: Astrobytes 12:23PM I suggested that one ages ago but nobody went for it
be the change you want to see
Astrobytes: I plan to do Morpion Solitaire when I have time
Astrobytes: Checked with aCat that it wasn't on his list
eulerscheZahl: not sure how many frames we can get, but should be at least 10k atm would need a few changes at some point
eulerscheZahl: CG replays are verbose
MSmits: that's a good thing isnt it?
MSmits: then you know what :poop: means by looking at it
eulerscheZahl: i was expecting a card game behind that Solitaire title
Astrobytes: No, it's also known as join five
Astrobytes: The single player one is a good candidate for NRPA, it can also be 2 player
MSmits: oh noes,
Astrobytes: can't remember what the current record is
Astrobytes: quite a few papers on it
MSmits: that looks like another game that will get me obsessed
eulerscheZahl: it's so easy to trap you
Astrobytes: heh heh :D
MSmits: yeah :(
Astrobytes: Won't be for a wee while anyway, so you have time to be obsessed with other things for now
Astrobytes: I usually have a few games on here on my coffee breaks, new challenge every day http://joinfive.com/index.php?a=t
eulerscheZahl: x* smallest factor
Tiki69 can u guess what to do
eulerscheZahl: but with a terrible score
TheSpiffiest: Interesting. So the test cases just give a pass/fail but you get points from the submit?
TheSpiffiest: That's the only feedback on MadKnight's game?
TheSpiffiest: Ooh, other stuff... I like this
TheSpiffiest: Hey! MK
MadKnight: discord TheSpiffiest
elderlybeginner: is there a server problem now? tron calculations are lagging immensly
MadKnight: elderlybeginner are u sure u are not playing against some slow bot ?
elderlybeginner: I mean it's calculating arena very slowly, like 20% withing 10 minutes
jacek: CSB promotion?
eulerscheZahl: only 200 promoted :sweat:
eulerscheZahl: but seems that it's already the end of it, so probably more
AntiSquid: have you looked at any more reply CTF puzzles ?
eulerscheZahl: nope, was busy with 2048
eulerscheZahl: not sure how to get rid of the KEY_FRAME stuff, so the current turn limit should be somewhere around 27k
AntiSquid: trying to do misc 3 from 2018 october (ICS stuff) ... extracted zip, got a VMDK which doesn't boot, extracted that with 7zip, got a bunch of files and folders that remind me of some kind of linux boot image
AntiSquid: i am guessing if i get it to boot then the desktop wallpaper shows the flag or something along those lines
AntiSquid: no file contains any string FLG:
AntiSquid: any suggestions how to try and get the image running?
eulerscheZahl: no, too tired to think about that
AntiSquid: lol ok
eulerscheZahl: circumventing the SDK is no fun
AntiSquid: i guess that's as difficult as the misc section of reply :p
AntiSquid: or worse
eulerscheZahl: that's how the 85 turn demo replay looks like:
eulerscheZahl: so much useless KEY_FRAME
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/uoazyq green: what I actually care about
eulerscheZahl: ^<v> for the push direction the letter indicates the spawn position + value
AntiSquid: latest two minute papers video talks about neuralink : https://youtu.be/JKe53bcyBQY
JFB: eulerscheZahl - what is it???
eulerscheZahl: what is what?
eulerscheZahl: oh, i guess you missed the chat from earlier the day https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/54927e7306266ad2583c95cbf8e3872d6def
JFB: :-) OK. Yes I missed begining of the chat and saw only expired pastebin and links to web pages with a lot of random chars ;-)
JFB: Now I understund - you implement 2048
eulerscheZahl: expired pastebin: it's broken again
AntiSquid: oh nvm lol
AntiSquid: pasted the code
eulerscheZahl: squid your replay is a 404
AntiSquid: how come? it works for me
JFB: For me 404 too
AntiSquid: but i clicked share @_@ https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/489302170
eulerscheZahl: and the random chars are me trying to compress the game while the CG SDK decides to blow it up
AntiSquid: whatever the score is only 816 so doesn't matter
eulerscheZahl: which game? pending ones can't be shared
eulerscheZahl: i'm currently around 2600
AntiSquid: only changed print("U") to print("U\nD\nL\nR")
JFB: It have to be bonus for score 2048 in 2048 game ;-)
AntiSquid: now i got 2692
eulerscheZahl: and you can still keep playing
AntiSquid: it's fixed random seed?
eulerscheZahl: see my comment
eulerscheZahl: buggy CG
eulerscheZahl: the sokoban problem again
AntiSquid: 5900 by hand online didn't play in a long time :p
eulerscheZahl: whoops, i still have the 200 frame limit in my contribution
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/uocp8g i should start printing > 1 action at a time
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/uocv3q maybe it is too easy as an optim and i should move it to the puzzle section :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: not even hardcoding
AntiSquid: i made some mistakes, i can go higher in score
AntiSquid: this is by hand, so not most optimal moves
AntiSquid: so main trick of the game is to keep biggest square in one corner and never move it away from there
AntiSquid: and based on this idea you build up the other big squares which you eventually merge into your biggest square
eulerscheZahl: i know, played by hand myself
AntiSquid: so can CG really keep track of that many frames?
eulerscheZahl: but for my CG contribution it's too easy not to trap yourself when you know where the next spawn will happen :(
eulerscheZahl: 1800 frames is no problem at all
eulerscheZahl: if you want more, my solver would need some hardcoding i think
eulerscheZahl: but should be possible
eulerscheZahl: i know that code of the rings has a 10k frame limit
eulerscheZahl: i think we could even go beyond
eulerscheZahl: around 27k frames the replay size would reach the magic 1MB limit
eulerscheZahl: that would be some more headache to get around
eulerscheZahl: wait, that's not an anagram anymore
AntiSquid: 16.9 actually
eulerscheZahl: your score or frame count?
jacek: 2048? yet another N-tuple game
eulerscheZahl: i'm not even sure if it makes a good optim
eulerscheZahl: or if it should be a regular puzzle
Scarfield: could be a fun puzzle to play with, but wouldnt it be better without knowing the random spawns?
jacek: game could last thousand of frames, outside of CG limit
eulerscheZahl: exactly. 600 frames with user interaction isn't even enough to get a 2048 tile
eulerscheZahl: and in the end some users will reverse the seed anyways
MadKnight: just output all the moves instantly
eulerscheZahl: so it's equal chances at least
eulerscheZahl: that's what i'm doing to get more frames MadKnight
AntiSquid: website conceded on me wtf? https://imgur.com/a/YrMMTrM
eulerscheZahl: current limit should be around 27k (1MB replay size limit)
Scarfield: hit "keep playing"
Scarfield: there are some people trying to get the lowest possible score with 2048. The optimal would be getting a checker board of alternating 2s and 4s, but that seems silly for a puzzle xD
jacek: start with easy puzzles https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
Danotris: Beware though, comme community puzzles in easy are harder than some medium puzzles and so on
AntiSquid: 35904 beat my highscore Automaton2000 https://imgur.com/a/TAqdi87
Automaton2000: when i will have a hard time
Scarfield: Frost1213 https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/power-of-thor-episode-1
AntiSquid: lol japs are crazy: https://twitter.com/catsuka/status/1308068858541023232
Scarfield: read the statement carefully, and boil the problem down to what steps needed to solve it, if you dont know the coding to do so, watch some tutorials, or find a better suited website. CodinGame kind of assumes you are at least a little comfortable with coding :)
Scarfield: what language are you working with Frost1213
eulerscheZahl: frost offline already? can't tab-complete
jacek: rage quit?
Scarfield: hmm i can auto complete though
AntiSquid: nope can't complete
AntiSquid: no patience, no focus
Scarfield: weird, apperently it stores usernames you have auto-ed earlier
eulerscheZahl: for mods the tab completion works differently
jacek: they cant autocomplete for ban?
eulerscheZahl: you have a list of users that were recently actively writing on the chat
eulerscheZahl: i have the current users, even if they are idling
jacek: is that so, Automaton2000
eulerscheZahl: autocompletion for ban is possible
Automaton2000: i have a bit more than 1 turn ahead
Scarfield: when hovering his avatar nothing happens, he deleted account?
eulerscheZahl: but i don't think you can ban an offline user
eulerscheZahl: CG just has issues loading the profile from time to time, no idea why
jacek: nah, it seems you cant over low level avatars
eulerscheZahl: hey, dbdr is online we were wondering if Automaton2020 is your account
eulerscheZahl: or maybe hover new accounts?
eulerscheZahl: good to know. even squid wanted to ban Automaton2020
eulerscheZahl: i guess it's your chat scraper
dbdr: did he do something bad? :D
dbdr: it is
eulerscheZahl: messes with tab completion :D
eulerscheZahl: but that's a good thing, as yours isn't talking nonsense
jacek: AutomatonNN, whos the worst mod
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see that i can't replace the main reason to take a look
eulerscheZahl: i'm tempted to kick that bot
AntiSquid: oh ok, i wanted to kick Automaton2020 because it's in the way of tab completion for Automaton2000
Automaton2000: we're talking about the same
AntiSquid: but nvm then
AntiSquid: not you're not the same Automaton2000
Automaton2000: and i tried a lot of ifs
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN ?
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the same as in your input?
Danotris: Automaton2000 Am i a good developer
Automaton2000: i did a lot of top bots
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Automaton2000 shuu
Automaton2000: and i just got a new avatar?
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN sudo apt install auto-ping-euler
AutomatonNN: what the hell why do you say that he didn't come out of the while loop
AntiSquid: hi MaliciouslyCrypticUsername how's life?
Stilgart: omg, euler is stuck in a while loop :fearful:
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Your brain doesn't have nerves
Majeck: How can I know my account age?