Bbaaii: test
volkarion: .
jacek: good morning
Damian-crypto: hi guys!
Daredevil1902: good afternoon
Devenar: how do you print debugging stuff in Python?
jrke: print("stuff",file=sys.stderr)
Devenar: Thank you!
jrke: you need import sys header for that
AntiSquid: good night
jrke: good night antisquid :)
AntiSquid: (it's night somewhere in the world, not going to bed now)
fajjet: how to remove shortest mode from clash of code?
JBM: buy codingame
fajjet: mehh
fajjet: premium?
GoogleJeff: no, they mean "buy the entire company"
Tiramon: no he is talking about the company
Tiramon: it's not possible
fajjet: why?
GoogleJeff: you can create your own Clash of Code problem and not include shortest mode for that specific problem that you created
Tiramon: same reason as 'why not'
Tiramon: oh you can exclude on privates?
Tiramon: oh nice .. havn't seen that
GoogleJeff: i'm pretty sure there are three checkboxes, one for fastest, one for shortest, and one for... um, reverse, or whatever
Tiramon: yes even possible to limit languages
Tiramon: that new ... atleast for me ;)
jrke: yeah private clashes but you have to get your own player and didn't affect your general clash rank.
tutubalin: i like shortest mode
jrke: hey tiramon will you udate your D&B bot
tutubalin: i don't like coding in a rush just to lose 1 second because of some typo
Jacob03: i have mixed feelings about shortest mode. I feel like having whitespace count encourages bad practice
tutubalin: i like slow smart coding, improving code without hustle, trying different languages to choose the best for the problem
Jacob03: yes but fastest and reverse test your coding skills under pressure
Jacob03: so I guess it depends on which you find more important
tutubalin: which i find more entertaining
tutubalin: Jacob03 on another coding site they ignore whitespace for char count. but that leads to some cheaty solution where most of logic is built with whitespaces
Jacob03: oh right that makes sense
Tiramon: jrke... yes i should add some search ...
jrke: ok
fedtj: :nose_5:
Dark_Hack: F U C K You
fedtj: :nose:
A.Safarkhon: pashil von
AntiSquid: ya no spam, no vulgarities, no littering the floor, thanks
jacek: bloody hell
darkhorse64: :skull_crossbones:
darkhorse64: :hammer:
fedtj: moderator kick Dark_Hack from codingame plz
WhoIsLTD: ~~
fajjet: nope guys, shortest mode is annoying and useless. That's only about syntax in most cases
Uljahn: Automaton2000: you can't enjoy things i don't like
Automaton2000: he doesn't have to be above the boss
jacek: do you life frogs, AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: what is the problem?
Uljahn: AutomatonNN: frog lifes matter
AutomatonNN: why did you want to compete with the wood bosses?
tutubalin: fajjet there are a lot of tricks for codegolf
tutubalin: and getting rid of whitespaces and renaming identifiers to 1 letter is the first step, but definitely not the last
tutubalin: check my 100 bytes long bot for pacman that's able to exit wood league
tutubalin: https://forum.codingame.com/t/spring-challenge-2020-feedback-strategy/184113/52
Tiramon: yay coc qustmap part is also done ..
AntiSquid: mild insult: "
AutomatonNN 11:25AM
why did you want to compete with the wood bosses?"
AutomatonNN: what do you mean?
AntiSquid: it somewhat implies they aren't good enough to compete with anyone other than the wood bosses AutomatonNN @_@
AutomatonNN: what is the problem with the rules?
Uljahn: it somewhat implies playing community multis :smirk:
darkhorse64: Guys so bored that they talk to bots
Tiramon: oh that's completly normal darkhorse64
Saptarshi: Hey guys! how about starting an coding community in Discord?
Illedan: Seen the big yellow link on top of this chat?
Saptarshi: ya
Saptarshi: but ours own would be much better!?
Tiramon: so because the is an official one a private one should be created?
i don't see any sense in that ...
Tiramon: *there
Saptarshi: sorry,stupid of me😅😅
Schwase: if you want to make a separate coding discord more power to you, but going into global chat and advertising it as a community discord doesnt. There are places in the CG discord to advertise servers, you should definitely check it out, you arent getting the full CG experience without using the CG discord IMO
jacek: discord vs celestia
Tiramon: ?
Celestia is a 3D astronomy software program created by Chris Laurel.
Tiramon: guess you are not talking about that celestia ...
jacek: well, try search for discord and celestia simultaously
Tiramon: some strange comic figures ...
jacek: perhaps thats your personalized search
Zenoscave: nope same comics showed up for me
jacek: maybe you both like the same things
jrke: why this one person defeats me a lot though he is behind me
jrke: not few matches majority of matches
Zenoscave: what game?
jrke: D&B
jrke: hay the first defeats me a lot dunno why?
Zenoscave: their strategy may just be effective against yours but not everyone else
jrke: so could i hardcode strategies for him?
Zenoscave: I would advise against that. that usually makes a weaker bot overall
Zenoscave: but you could if you wanted
jrke: losing against him cost me lot of points
Zenoscave: jrke your bot is pretty strong anyhow. What do you use? Minimax? or?
jrke: minimax
Zenoscave: cool
Zenoscave: I'm still a basic deterministic algo.
jrke: its my best minimax bot on codingame till now
Zenoscave: gratz
hachbani: Given two integers a and b, answer the sign of the product of a, a+1, ..., b.
hachbani: anyonecan explain this for me please ?
hachbani: I don't get what should be calculated
hachbani: a*(a+1)*b ?
eulerscheZahl: a*(a+1)*(a+2)*(a+3)*...*(b-1)*b
spyr03: p = 1
for x in range(a, b + 1):
p *= x
hachbani: aaaaahhhh
hachbani: Now i get it
hachbani: thanks mate
AggYzz: **dasd**
jrke: i got what was going wrong against that player in D&B
jacek: hm?
Zenoscave: what was it jrke
dbdr: jrke: I can push you up and trictrac down
http://cgstats.magusgeek.com/app/multi-dots-and-boxes/dbdr
do you have any offer? ;)
eulerscheZahl: :cat: :knife:
eulerscheZahl: should be the other order
dbdr: ?
eulerscheZahl: blackmailing
dbdr: if anything it's whitemailing
dbdr: or I could blackmail NOT to submit again :D
eulerscheZahl: maybe i didn't think this through
dbdr: or blackmail trictrac to submit
dbdr: so many options
dbdr: *spamsubmit
eulerscheZahl: is that the CG version of threatening with DDos?
dbdr: kind of, yeah
dbdr: hm, I found a business model
dbdr: 1. develop a strong bot that can identify opponent, or with RPS effect
2. approach various players
3. profit
dbdr: you can even play realpolitik on several multis
dbdr: if you spamsubmit on uTTT, I'll retaliate on Othello
dbdr: cold wars, alliances, ...
Hjax: i feel like the most equipped to do that is smits
Hjax: he can just make a book to ruin any individuals day
dbdr: other people can make books too
dbdr: The Book Wars
dbdr: good chapter title
MSmits: I've been counter booking Royale all day btw
MSmits: every time i get near 100% he submits a new bot :P
dbdr: :D
dbdr: where? othello?
MSmits: yeah
dbdr: I think he wants to get back the #1 rank globally
MSmits: I do it on cg bench so he doesnt notice me doing it btw
MSmits: I'll submit when it's 100%
MSmits: but that wont happen if he is changing his bot
dbdr: good that you don't speak about it publicly ;)
MSmits: yes :P
MSmits: I dont mind really
dbdr: I know
MSmits: the bot gets better from it
MSmits: more branches countered
MSmits: he's training my bot
MSmits: the older version was already winning 70% or so
MSmits: but he was losing more vs you guys so royale spam was brining me down
MSmits: bringing
dbdr: or rather, us up
MSmits: yeah either way
MSmits: oh he just submitted again
MSmits: I guess I'll go change that version number in my othello.yaml file :P
MSmits: agent nr that is
MSmits: btw not all games are equally bookable
MSmits: UTTT is very hard, oware also
MSmits: the only reason I was succeeding in UTTT is because I was trying it against other people with books
eulerscheZahl: dbdr 08:03PM
I think he wants to get back the #1 rank globally
- scream:
MSmits: in oware, I am currently trying to counter jacek, who is almost entirely deterministic 50 plies deep and I am still not winning much, because games last for 200 plies and even if I play perfectly for the first 50, I have 150 more to make a mistake
dbdr: eulerscheZahl, I though you didn't care?
eulerscheZahl: i don't :D
eulerscheZahl: just reacting to random lines i catch while partially reading the chat
dbdr: :D
MSmits: partially !?
**MSmits is offended
eulerscheZahl: you are writing walls of text
eulerscheZahl: and it's late
MSmits: beautiful walls
dbdr: he doesn't have time to write less
eulerscheZahl: in the evening i can't handle those anymore
MSmits: right dbdr
MSmits: mmh it's not that late is it
MSmits: dont you have almost 2 hrs to go?
dbdr: night is falling
The_Auditor: is this thing worth the time ?
dbdr: it's not june anymore
eulerscheZahl: yeah. i go to bed earlier in the winter
MSmits: The_Auditor what thing?
The_Auditor: codingame
dbdr: :D
MSmits: you will not find anything more awesome
dbdr: ^
eulerscheZahl: depends on your level of nerdiness if you will like it
dbdr: non-nerds don't even get here
MSmits: yeah
The_Auditor: LOL
MSmits: if you got here, you're supposed to be here
eulerscheZahl: except if forced by the teacher
MSmits: right, there is that exception
The_Auditor: alright, sold
MSmits: The_Auditor are you able to program reasonably well in at least one programming language?
MSmits: I mean, the basics, loops, conditions, lists/arrays etc.
MSmits: thats all you need really, the better you are, the more you can do here, but even with just that, you can try easy puzzles and clashes
MSmits: and some bot games
The_Auditor: cool. thanks
dbdr: take small steps
dbdr: try to get into the top 2M ;)
dbdr: did we just pass 2M?
MSmits: wow nice
The_Auditor: 2M users here?
The_Auditor: how many active?
dbdr: about 10
MSmits: The_Auditor I think a few 100 at once
MSmits: not all chatting here
MSmits: some also just code offline and come here to submit
MSmits: so they're not even logged in
MSmits: during contests it is several thousand
MSmits: it's not always the same people either, people come and go
mountaingo: yes
aCat: dbdr :D
aCat: 11 count this cat in
The_Auditor: is anybody on discord ^_^
dbdr: it's even true, given the right base
aCat: yeah, people watch over discord
MSmits: isn't that true for most numbers?
mountaingo: why programmers are known to be nerds and whitout social skills?
MSmits: I'm a nerd with social skills but no social interest
MSmits: there is a difference between having no social skills and no social interests :P
mountaingo: ye ye
mountaingo: but if you don`t use it you lose it
The_Auditor: programmers that are not nerds are known to not be good programmers
TheSpiffiest: anyone from google here?
MSmits: I can't lose it, I am a teacher :P
aCat: MSmits ths pandemy cut off 99% of my social
MSmits: TheSpiffiest we have at least one, probably more
aCat: i.e. live interaction with students
MSmits: aCat yeah it has not affected me much aside from the work thing
jacek: me too
jacek: well i have to wear mask at shops
aCat: ^^'
MSmits: yes, but... my country has gone for physical teaching since this week
TheSpiffiest: Ha! The pandemic had almost no effect on my social life... I wear a mask to get groceries, but that's about it.
MSmits: we dont wear masks to get groceries
aCat: if not work and yeah wearing masks, there was no diffrerence for me even during 'lockdown'
jacek: and i learned how to shave my head
TheSpiffiest: I've got my family I hang out with and that's about it. I study 4 hours a day if I'm not working
jacek: so even less awkward silence at barber
MSmits: btw, about that. Earlier today I saw the manager of the supermarket stand really close to two kids, so I asked her about it later because that didn't look too safe
MSmits: turns out they were trying to steal stuff :P
TheSpiffiest: I got something like a cross between a mohawk and mullet
eulerscheZahl: playing soccer was forbidden for some months here.
that's how my social life suffered.
i'm not into partying or similar
TheSpiffiest: Sokka hair from Last Airbender
MSmits: eulerscheZahl but you didnt break anything either, so there's that
eulerscheZahl: injured my shoulder just in time before
MSmits: oh right, I remember
Memo12334: if I studied BFS and still can't solve skynet revolution , does that mean codingame is not for me
eulerscheZahl: episode 1? there's a simple insight so you don't even need BFS
MSmits: is that the first skynet?
Memo12334: ye
eulerscheZahl: so, let's give into the problem...
Memo12334: do you mean without BFS?
eulerscheZahl: how many exits can a node be next to?
Memo12334: 2 max
volkarion: I've spent like 3 days on The Labryinth. I keep messing up the back tracing.
eulerscheZahl: read again!
MSmits: volkarion the labyrinth is pretty hard
Memo12334: oh 1 ofc
MSmits: so thats ok
Memo12334: lol or else you could never win
eulerscheZahl: so, with only 1 exit per node:
eulerscheZahl: if the virus is on a node and the exit is next: what should you do?
jacek: make entire lockdown
Memo12334: close that link
eulerscheZahl: exactly
eulerscheZahl: and if there is no exit nearby?
Memo12334: close the node with the least neighbours?
eulerscheZahl: cutting any node would be fine
eulerscheZahl: as you can always cut the exit when the virus is next
eulerscheZahl: so: next to exit? cut link
otherwise: cut random
eulerscheZahl: no BFS needed
MSmits: you do need it for skynet two right?
MSmits: I remember it was pretty difficult
Memo12334: hmm ok , I will do it that way I guess. May I also know how people solve it with BFS?
eulerscheZahl: yes, part 2 requires more effort
MSmits: Memo12334 let me see if i did 1 with bfs, not sure
Memo12334: part is PhD in physics
Memo12334: 2*
eulerscheZahl: why physics?
Memo12334: because abstract thinking idk
MSmits: lol my skynet 1 solution is 250 lines
Memo12334: WUT
Memo12334: MSmits u always have those 300 ifs or 1000 lines solves xD
MSmits: nah this is just because i solved this when i was with CG as long as you are I think
The_Auditor: anybody got hired through this site?
MSmits: I didnt know much back then
eulerscheZahl: my first solution has 46 lines, most is input parsing and such
bruddah: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/report/1346982794fc6b0c719acfb7e40b62706425530
Memo12334: you didnt use bfs right meneer
MSmits: I did
eulerscheZahl: 55 to get the bonus achievement
MSmits: small part of my solution:
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/258d3588-151c-477f-bf13-fdbb0ec0bf57
Memo12334: Smits what resources u had read to implement bfs
MSmits: i just googled everthing i could find about bfs
Memo12334: Like I wanted to do bot programming after this and I read that BFS is important there and other algos :S
MSmits: yeah
eulerscheZahl: that efficient remove :D
bruddah: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/report/1346982794fc6b0c719acfb7e40b62706425530
MSmits: great isnt it :)
bruddah: someone's solution is 3809 characters
eulerscheZahl: you improved a lot since
MSmits: yeah
Memo12334: MSmits may I ask what people find with BFS in this challenge
Memo12334: like distance between what
MSmits: between the current location of the thingy and the exit i guess
Astrobytes: nodes in the graph
MSmits: and i also calculate the path and cut a node on that path
Memo12334: wdym Astrobytes , the nodes or the node and exit
MSmits: if you cut a link on the shortest path, you may make the path longer
Astrobytes: The vertices of the graph (the nodes and exit) I meant
Astrobytes: bloody terminology
MSmits: Memo12334 if you find a BFS example on google and you substitute the origin with the virus and the destination with the exit, just cut a link on the path
MSmits: that is if you want to BFS this, it's not really necessary
Astrobytes: It was you I gave the redblobgames link to Memo12334 right?
Memo12334: yes I read that a lot :S
MSmits: it's great
Memo12334: it was good , with animation n stuff
Astrobytes: There's even full implementations there so you can work through it line by line and understand it
MSmits: there's also some good stuff about hex grids on there
Astrobytes: ^
jacek: you like hexes dont you
Memo12334: yes I in that tab , he be doing the frontier
MSmits: I played yavalath with my class yesterday :)
MSmits: I lost :P
Astrobytes: It's a great site in general tbh
Astrobytes: lol gg MSmits
jacek: you played without books?
dbdr: MSmits: noob ;)
MSmits: well it was me vs 20 of them :p
MSmits: 20 brains vs me and i never played the game before ;p;
Memo12334: but there are more exit nodes , so you find with BFS the shortest exit and block those neighbours or what?
dbdr: did they vote what to play?
dbdr: more is not always better
jacek: did you play on real board?
MSmits: I projected a picture on the board
MSmits: we used markers
MSmits: and you're right dbdr, a few smart people domintated
MSmits: dominated
jacek: should make them play against your bot
MSmits: but that's fine, it was mostly to fill the last 10 minutes and it was fun
MSmits: yeah they asked me if I ever played against my bot
dbdr: you should make them write a bot
MSmits: this was a physics class though
MSmits: first class of the year, mostly introductory stuff
dbdr: analog bot then
MSmits: i did the game because it's part of what i do in my free time
MSmits: as a teacher you're supposed to share a bit of that
MSmits: also my python TTT bot was broken :P
MSmits: whats an analog bot?
Astrobytes: Non-digital
MSmits: thanks Astrobytes, very helpful :P
Astrobytes: :grin:
MSmits: which reminds me, sarcasm and facemasks dont go well together
Astrobytes: tell me about it lol
jacek: analog bot? like shannon's hex machine?
Astrobytes: yeah, make them build a Yavalath machine
MSmits: oh, like a chess bot that actually moves the pieces with a robot arm?
jacek: i think chemistry class would love yavalath https://i.redd.it/eemtptywzfb01.jpg
jacek: the turk :v
MSmits: I would have loved hexpaper when i was working on Y
MSmits: didnt realize that existed somehow
jacek: physics teachers dont need chemistry?
Astrobytes: meh, using hex paper is cheating in organic chem :P
MSmits: jacek nope
jacek: then how do you make meth
MSmits: chemists need physics though
MSmits: methodology?
Astrobytes: biologists do, and chem needs physics
Astrobytes: ah beat me again
Astrobytes: meth is chemistry jacek
Memo12334: max 3 plants MSmits
Memo12334: (add delete reaction option)
MSmits: ah, wiet
MSmits: never done that
Astrobytes: wiet == weed?
MSmits: I had an uncle that made everyone in the family have the maximum numbe r of weed plants
MSmits: yeah Astrobytes
MSmits: when he was young that is
MSmits: by the way
Astrobytes: yay, ik kan Nederlands spreken
MSmits: yep you can
Astrobytes: lol why
MSmits: this uncle was one of the original programmers at IBM
Astrobytes: Just for himself?
MSmits: he's retired now
MSmits: yeah Astrobytes
Astrobytes: lol, what a guy
Memo12334: wow
MSmits: he's cool
Astrobytes: Most programmers I know only do psychedelics, no weed (too strong these dfa
Astrobytes: *days)
MSmits: most programmers i know are you guys
Astrobytes: (that do anything that is)
MSmits: no idea what you're all on
Astrobytes: hahaha
jacek: :expresionless:
Astrobytes: Strictly prescription only here lol
MSmits: my only addiction is diet coke with no caffeine
Astrobytes: damn, I hate the taste of diet soft drinks. Though I don't drink any at all these days
MSmits: ah, I dont mind it
MSmits: though if i drink non-diet it does taste good, bit sweet
Astrobytes: I can detect the taste of the sweetener and it makes me gag
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: I do react badly to some sweeteners, but not Aspartam
Astrobytes: If you don't drink it for a while, then go back to it, you can totally taste it
MSmits: hmm ok
MSmits: the phosphoric acid is so heavy it drowns out the taste anyway
Astrobytes: Don't let me stop you, just my taste :)
Astrobytes: Haha yeah
JBM: oh my, the entire night gang is here
MSmits: am I in your gang?
JBM: are you here?
MSmits: yeah
JBM: ^
EcksDee: if its to avoid suger, i read somewhere that some sweeteners is turned into sugar in your system, or at least something with more calories than it has in the bottle
MSmits: do we have gang colors
JBM: not yet
JBM: just don't pick orange
Astrobytes: "night gang" excellent
Astrobytes: Hahaha EcksDee you did it
Memo12334: if I get rlly gut in codingame , will I able to get a job when I grow up
MSmits: EcksDee do you mean violating the law of conservation of energy?
JBM: yes
EcksDee: xD
JBM: not necessarily because od CG
EcksDee: did it yesterday
Astrobytes: Awesome "xD"
EcksDee: thermodynamics smermodynamics
MSmits: is EcksDee Scarfield?
Memo12334: JBM how did ya get good enough of being able to do very hard if I may ask
Astrobytes: yes MSmits
JBM: practice
MSmits: ok
EcksDee: yea, it doesnt make sense now you say it
JBM: just practice
JBM: maybe reading some books too, hard to tell
Memo12334: hmm ok sir
JBM: very hard just means "could take long to understand"
JBM: but seldom "hard to understand"
Astrobytes: I just imported the brain module. Worked for me.
JBM: now shag it
Astrobytes: Hahahahaha
JBM: ;p
Memo12334: sry for polluting the chat btw
JBM: polluting?
JBM: you're what makes it alive
Astrobytes: Yeah shame on you, that's JBMs job
Memo12334: ye when I asked something the chat got killed
Astrobytes: And don't be daft, you're not polluting if you're asking pertinent questions
EcksDee: you might even involuntarilly give someone a tip from asking questions :p
Astrobytes: ^he knows
JBM: he's in da gang
EcksDee: shh
JBM: xd
Astrobytes: Codingang
EcksDee: xD
EcksDee: i have a problem, i know
JBM: now am i going to manage to complete that puzzle after i've apero'd and dined
JBM: or is that just wishful thinking
Astrobytes: Only if you forget your digestif
JBM: can't now she's watching
Astrobytes: :D
EcksDee: lol my father seriously hides candy from his GF
JBM: she can have the candy
EcksDee: but not the stiffydigs
Astrobytes: The er... what?
JBM: no clue here
EcksDee: digestives.. digestiffs.. dig stiffies.. ehm works in dansih
Astrobytes: You know what a 'stiffy' is in English right?
EcksDee: i feel like ishouldnt google it?
JBM: i don't
EcksDee: xD
Astrobytes: Oh please do google it
JBM: some form of a joint?
Astrobytes: Ecks Dee
JBM: or a boner?
Astrobytes: the latter, yes
EcksDee: lol
JBM: ok, half transpareant
Memo12334: could be stiffy shoulders
Astrobytes: So, like he said, she can have the candy but doesn't get digs on the stiffy
JBM: total better meaning
EcksDee: xD sigh
Astrobytes: He's keeping that to himself
JBM: aim tight
EcksDee: 4 days left on TvsC
JBM: until the next update
Hjax: i want a new contest
JBM: make one
Hjax: >:(
JBM: i'll probably host an "off" TVC one when it's out
Hjax: TVC?
JBM: but i'm not ready on the merchandising front yet
JBM: check for the emoji in the contributions tab
JBM: there's tvc
JBM: do add an upvote O:-)
JBM: makes the toad crazy
JBM: priceless
EcksDee: xD he doesnt like it?
JBM: he doesn't like that it gets votes
JBM: cf his rant in the "ALL GLORY" puzzle, same page
JBM: (which you can upvote too, can't hurt)
eulerscheZahl: huh?
eulerscheZahl: i don't care about your upvotes
JBM: wait
JBM: how are you still up
JBM: i've been lied to
eulerscheZahl: but i don't want to see the troll game in the multiplayer section. i don't see strategic depth there
EcksDee: oh the RR, have upvoted :)
JBM: your loss
JBM: EcksDee: you're totally in da gang
eulerscheZahl: about to go offline. but still here atm
JBM: i don't get how you don't get it
JBM: oh well
JBM: i'll get (over) it
eulerscheZahl: don't get what? the depth in the game?
JBM: that-a one
Astrobytes: Thibaud give you any feedback yet eulerscheZahl?
eulerscheZahl: of course there are better decisions and worse. e.g. throwing all stones at once in turn 1 is bad
JBM: that's the easy choices yes
eulerscheZahl: but still feels quite random to me in total
JBM: but that's only "feel"
JBM: it's really not that much
eulerscheZahl: i know that there is some mathematical backgrond
JBM: it's nash and meta
Astrobytes: Sure it has some game theoretic value to it
eulerscheZahl: "and meta" exactly
Astrobytes: see
JBM: and both will reveal a lot better in multi, with more games
eulerscheZahl: still very rock-paper-scissors prone IMO
JBM: (and also when i can find some more serious time to put repeat play in place
jacek: i wonder how MSmits gonna prepare book for that
JBM: i wouldn't be so sure
JBM: but then again... onyl one way to know
eulerscheZahl: @Astrobytes no further feedback, still waiting for julien
Astrobytes: Ah OK
eulerscheZahl: and now i'll leave
JBM: i'll admit the contrib section doesn't help, with ~30 games played
Astrobytes: gn euler
JBM: gn8
EcksDee: gn
Memo12334: gn
Memo12334: the king of cg
EcksDee: yea, the achievements seem to have boosted the contributions
JBM: for better OR WORSE
EcksDee: but im still a proud bronze level in coding speed
JBM: wht does that even mean
JBM: that the clash one?
Astrobytes: Me too, me too
EcksDee: ye
Astrobytes: Yes indeed
Memo12334: ecksdee are you a gamedev
EcksDee: nope
JBM: we kind of all are, here
EcksDee: mechanical engineer
Memo12334: woah, and you do cg
EcksDee: yup
Memo12334: CNC programming will be ez for ya
Astrobytes: Hey I'm technically a biologist
EcksDee: had 2 week course in python some years ago, didnt want to forget what little i have learned, found CG, and got hooked about a year ago
Astrobytes: (we kept him)
EcksDee: xD
Astrobytes: :D
AntiSquid: walked into a strange love story Automaton2000
Automaton2000: why would you not have a lot of time to code
AntiSquid: ah chat scroll lol ... was reading the lines about gf and candy
AntiSquid: maybe because my pc is busy running something the background Automaton2000 !! :o
Automaton2000: i guess a bit of free time
AntiSquid: yes
Astrobytes: ML related?
AntiSquid: ya
Astrobytes: Anything interesting?
AntiSquid: feels lazy though, import model and train
aCat: Astrobytes nice idea
AntiSquid: just trying to better understand what works best for what dataset
aCat: I'll ad dthe tag :P
Astrobytes: Definitely part of it aCat :)
Astrobytes: Well still worthwhile then AntiSquid
aCat: you can't search puzzles by tag?
Astrobytes: You can
Astrobytes: eg. https://www.codingame.com/learn/reading-comprehension
JBM: eheh
aCat: but mot via search field
Zm4j: does in ultimate tic tac toe validActionCount count only spaces that i haven't been on, or does it count all free spaces on the board?
Astrobytes: No aCat, that is a rather annoying non-feature
EcksDee: your valid moves according to rules Zm4j
EcksDee: or the number of them
aCat: I was thinking should I add A* for the JS puzzles tag... :thinking:
Astrobytes: Yes
EcksDee: if you are sent to a full/won small-board, all empty spaces are a valid move, but otherwise only the empty spaces in the small-board you are sent to
Astrobytes: @aCat: I mean it's an A* improvement at it's core so yeah
aCat: :+1:
Zm4j: i want to play for wood league that puts 'X' on random available space using function rand()%number of available spaces
but it says invalid action
Astrobytes: Right, I'm out for tonight (not doing an euler, restringing and cleaning my guitar ;) )
gn all
aCat: bye
Memo12334: lol im passing the first 2 testcases only , man IM DUM
JBM: but it gets better by the minute
Memo12334: yall got the problem solving genes
JBM: pretty much
AntiSquid: blender getting big sponsors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cheB3jMG78 wonder how that pushes the user friendliness
reCurse: Autodesk will go down in history as a choking of Blackberry proportions
reCurse: I hope anyway
AntiSquid: .
Memo12334: anyone online that knows C++?
Memo12334: I don't see why my functio nis not working rlly ,
Memo12334: gives error no such link for skynet rev ep1
jacek: then you must be doing somehting wrong
Memo12334: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/469acf0f-b908-4bae-bc6d-543976341802
Memo12334: the 2 nested for loop thing give index the wrong value
Memo12334: nvm
Memo12334: the for loops should be switched probably
Memo12334: nope idk
jacek: do you delete the edges afterwards
Memo12334: oh no
Memo12334: hmm why and how would I do that
Memo12334: or else it can go to wrong neighbour , ye
Memo12334: it's bidirectional so
Memo12334: printed the links and there is no links with those indexes so does not have to do with erasing the edges :S
Memo12334: nvm found lol
Memo12334: gg
Memo12334: ?purge 10
AntiSquid: is that a twitch command?
Memo12334: no discord
JBM: what's it do?
Memo12334: purge 10 messages
Hjax: oh the map has certs now, interesting
JBM: errrr if u say so
Hjax: the whole map thing seems kind of silly to me tbh
Hjax: weow silver level coding speed
JBM: yup
Insufficient: hey guys, have they fixed that bug on the contribution map path yet?
JBM: which one
Insufficient: Comment on a contribution
JBM: oh that's horrible
JBM: that's worth xp?
JBM: no wonder it's such a dumpster fire now
Insufficient: I remember when it came out one of the CG staff said in a forum thread that it was broken atm but that was weeks ago
JBM: wouldn't know
JBM: got the xp from that one on day one
Insufficient: the true big brain move
JBM: apparently
austin0209: hello
thismarvin: hello world
Schwase: just won first clash
Schwase: ggez
Enfields: Hey Question , i am just starting here and i am solving the 2d array chess problem, i like to write in pycharm first , but i don't know what is the format of the input of the board , is it a string ? a nested array ?
LynneZoe: hello guys
Frankich: Enfields i would say string if you are talking about the input on CG
Frankich: the inputs are always string
Enfields: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/8d3ceb60-3c6a-4cb9-8161-43a0ec2b449f
Frankich: that you have to parse and cast if neede
Frankich: this is multiline string right ?
Enfields: so if it i need it in a nested array , i will need to split it using new line right
Enfields: yes thats correct
Frankich: if i understood correctly what you, yes you have to split it into a array
Frankich: what you meant*
Enfields: great thanks man
Schwase: perfect numbers <3
volkarion: Ok.... so I have to type somewhere.. took me like 4 days but I finally solved Labyrinth with 100%! I'm pretty pumped. Thank you for coming to my Ded Talk.
Schwase: congrats volkarion
volkarion: <3
Frankich: gz
Schwase: forgot a }
Schwase: get a 0% in clash
Schwase: nice
Frankich: fast typer as i see
Schwase: lol
Schwase: made sure to close my braces that time
Frankich: hehe
Schwase: we meet again
Frankich: hopefully we will have a shortest :innocent:
Schwase: yes
Frankich: you won't use java right ?
Schwase: oh golf
Schwase: hate that
Schwase: cant
Frankich: ahah
Schwase: BRUH
Frankich: \o/
Frankich: will you do it in java ?
Schwase: unfortunately
Schwase: it is all i know
Schwase: itll be pretty good tho
Schwase: not winning
Frankich: should i try too :smirk:
Schwase: but impressive i hope
Frankich: ,
Schwase: 26
Schwase: wow
Schwase: i lost
Frankich: ruby, not fair
MSmits: learn ruby
Frankich: ahahah
MSmits: you're good at reverse i see
Frankich: learn perl or bash then, it's more worth
MSmits: sure
MSmits: do that :)
Frankich: hehe
MSmits: or join us in the bot arena's for more fun
Frankich: quite bad at it unfortunatly
MSmits: so was I at first
Frankich: dude.. you beated me in like 3 month
Schwase: my print statement is longer than 26
MSmits: oh, you've been with us longer than I have?
MSmits: sorry did not know
Frankich: i'm not really talkative
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: you are my opposite
Schwase: gg
Frankich: but yeah here from 2016
Schwase: 10 times more characters
MSmits: nice, I think I joined 2018
Schwase: i joined from playing coders strike back
Frankich: and didn't try the smitsimax yet
MSmits: dont worry about that algorithm really. It's pretty niche. Only useful in some specific circumstances
MSmits: happens to work well in csb
MSmits: but other stuff does too
Schwase: SHORTEST CODE
Schwase: AGAIN
Frankich: i know but I guess i didn't code seriously here since 2018 i guess
Frankich: and had a blank year
MSmits: ahh ok
Frankich: so i really far behind you all guys
MSmits: depends on who you're comparing with really. I can point to some guys I am far behind also
DomiKo: catching up is the best
Frankich: well basically i would say the top 100-80 on every contest
MSmits: most of the top 100 in most contests ranks below you Frankich
MSmits: they often join for the contest,but dont do much else on codingame
Frankich: true DomiKo
Frankich: ranks means nothing
MSmits: well it means something, just not as much as people at first think
Frankich: just have to grinf multi and you're top 100 quite easely
MSmits: yes, but you do need to be able to get to legend in those multis
MSmits: or at least high gold
MSmits: that's not doable for many players
MSmits: also if it takes too much time, you wont manage it either
DomiKo: to reach top 100 you have to spend big amount of time so that mean something
DomiKo: top100 right now is on 70K cp
Frankich: well i don't see it as unreachable in less than 2 month honestly, if i get into it as i used to
Schwase: DAMN RUBY
Frankich: but i'm pretty everyone can grind it with the proper time
Frankich: pretty sure
DomiKo: not really i guess
DomiKo: reaching high gold is really hard sometimes
DomiKo: or I'm just a noob :cold_sweat:
DomiKo: :sweat:
Frankich: i would agree of some, but not most of them honestly
Schwase: is it impolite to launch a clash if you are the room's host?
Schwase: or should you wait?
Frankich: and i don't think you are if you are 121st
Frankich: do as you want i guess, i don't think anybody will blame you
Schwase: ANOTHER SHORTEST
Schwase: OMG
DomiKo: i have that one too
DomiKo: hate*
Frankich: you have some good places i few multi though like 39th in BttC, i'm far from this level
Schwase: s = input()
print("("+s[0:3]+") "+s[3:6]+"-"+s[6:])
Schwase: bruh
Schwase: i cant compete using java
Schwase: holy cow
Schwase: my code was 200+ characters
Schwase: that one is 51
MSmits: I got a pro tim for you Schwase
Schwase: my strats for code golf are "only use one line" and "dont add extra spaces"
MSmits: tip that is
Schwase: dont use java
MSmits: bro is shorter than bruh
Schwase: i know i know
MSmits: -1 char
Schwase: :|
Schwase: wp
DomiKo: haha
MSmits: :P
Schwase: AHHHHHHHHHH
Schwase: ANOTHER CODE GOLF
Schwase: THATS LIKE 4 IN A ROW
DR1Rush: Please test this new clash of code create for me https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/53544b18608c3c96fe494cc25b7e177951af
DR1Rush: The problem is very good
Schwase: damn close one
Schwase: gg
Schwase: 35 seconds
Schwase: not bad
Schwase: heh heh
Schwase: 34 seconds lets goo
Schwase: short code? submit, take the loss, next clash
itzblinkzy: yepp
itzblinkzy: theres just some clashes that are too hard for my brain to comprehend
Schwase: java script yep you know
Schwase: gg
itzblinkzy: nice
Schwase: that one was lots of words
Schwase: lol
Schwase: i love speed coding
Schwase: just a huge rush
DR1Rush: gg
Schwase: where in DR are you from?
Schwase: i visited punta cana last summer
Schwase: code golf is doo doo
Schwase: i need a no golf mode
Schwase: meant to say winter
Zm4j: I think it is a nice puzzle for clash of codes, DR1Rush, and I think it could work for all 3 modes : )
DR1Rush: I´m from Dominican Republic/ Santo Domingo
DR1Rush: Good Zm4j, I put for the 3 modes
DR1Rush: I will put it*
DR1Rush: I would appreciate if you shared the clash of code that I made to be accepted soon
Zuabros:
AlkhilJohn stays all day long at clash of code
itzblinkzy: its a bot
DR1Rush: Lol, really
DR1Rush: He its a bot?
FrostedSentry: ayoooooooo
Schwase: aye
Schwase: yo
Schwase: 75%
Schwase: but why
Schwase: big oof
DR1Rush: Schwase, where are you from?
Schwase: philadelphia
coderinblack: clash anyone
Zuabros: im with you coderin
coderinblack: alr
Zuabros: tho C# is a sure lose in golf
Laminator: hahaha
Schwase: bro that puzzle was kinda nuts
Schwase: it took me too long to orient myself
Schwase: i know to have solved it now but i didnt feel like it since you already won
Zuabros: i had issues with formatting
Zuabros: the zeroes
Schwase: theres a laminator where i work and it always is so hot
Schwase: wdym Zuabros
Zuabros: here I go again
Schwase: uh oh
Schwase: omg
Schwase: ok that clash
Schwase: had an alternative solution
Schwase: you take the number in the 1s place of each number
Schwase: and subtract the lower one from the higher one
Schwase: oh
DR1Rush: 8*8*h
Schwase: im stupid
Schwase: i divided
DR1Rush: is very easy
Schwase: i was forgetting the reverse lol
Schwase: i divided instead of multiplying
Schwase: no need to brag haha
Zuabros: damn 90%
Zuabros: it passed all tests
Schwase: in clash?
Zuabros: yup
Schwase: ouch
Schwase: edge cases i gues
DR1Rush: when i see 1 as input and ouput 64, the answer is 8*8*h lol
DR1Rush: another?
Schwase: youve seen that puzzle before?
Zuabros: nope
Zuabros: started clashing today
Schwase: was asking dr1
DR1Rush: noo
DR1Rush: I never see this before
Schwase: ok yeah i got it in the same time as you
Schwase: but im just rarted
Zuabros: i dont like much codingame style to use output as result
Zuabros: forces me to use GOTOs
Zuabros: instead of just returning the result
Laminator: wow what a variety of languages
Laminator: It does allow you to have outputs of multiple lines. making pretty pictures
Zuabros: in codesignal we usually output arrays
Zuabros: as reults
Zuabros: but the gaming approach we have here is better
Laminator: Yeah, I've learned a lot by losing to good programmers.
Laminator: I wish sharing code was the default
Zuabros: me too
Zuabros: or we had an option "always share"
wulymammoth: i don't understand this problem
wulymammoth: lol
DR1Rush: this problem is very confused
wulymammoth: i'm hoping to look at someone's solution (if any of us solve it)
wulymammoth: :confused:
Schwase: NOOOOOO
Schwase: 75%
Schwase: OMFG
Schwase: i was so proud of my solution too :(
wulymammoth: lol -- at least you're making progress
Schwase: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/72b507a3-e03c-44e7-b2f3-dfd8e475df41
Schwase: i could still win lol
wulymammoth: oh!!! i see
Schwase: lol
Schwase: please throw lol
wulymammoth: jeez
Schwase: OMG
Schwase: I LEFT OUT THE EQUALS SIGN
wulymammoth: i'm not competing in this one
wulymammoth: dinner time
wulymammoth: lol
Schwase: IT WAS <= and i did <
Schwase: wow
Schwase: big sad
wulymammoth: yikes
wulymammoth: you can still win
Schwase: lesson learned
Schwase: i dont care about learning, im glad i know why i got one wrong
Schwase: im very glad in fact
Schwase: lol
wulymammoth: btw how do you get a pastebin?
Schwase: just copy code
Schwase: and thats how it formats
itzblinkzy: should i be practicing code here, I started last month but I can't do most of the clashes.
wulymammoth: it's okay -- i think most of us struggle a bit and i thought I was okay at these problems
wulymammoth: save for competitive programmers
wulymammoth: rolling through these like it's a warm up
Schwase: oooooooooof
Schwase: LOL
Schwase: LOLOLOLOL
DR1Rush: lol
wulymammoth: which I think Schwase is?
DR1Rush: 1 second
Schwase: gg
Schwase: wp
wulymammoth: hahaha terazoid
wulymammoth: from behind!
wulymammoth: oof
Schwase: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fd1c3c51-dfea-4861-9aca-0e53f63de032
Schwase: im not a competitive coder lol
Schwase: not clash wise at least
Schwase: ive done competitions
Schwase: but not on cg
Schwase: just puzzles
Schwase: ive 100% easy and im at 70% on medium
wulymammoth: oh you go to Rennaisler
wulymammoth: can't spell that right
wulymammoth: good school
wulymammoth: funny that you're using java as a physics major
Schwase: where are you from?
Schwase: btw beasted that clash lol
Schwase: fruit counting
Schwase: easy
Schwase: thanks JBM
Schwase: do practice puzzles tho, i really appreciate those puzzles
Schwase: they also wont pressure you and you can learn to write programs
Schwase: wuly?
Schwase: nope
Schwase: not doing code golf
Zuabros: I can give you a hint
Zuabros: create yourself a desktop programa that will trim your code
Zuabros: automatically
Zuabros: then you just cut and paste it
Schwase: java
Schwase: is the only language i know
Zuabros: I do it in C#
Zuabros: even bigger
Schwase: i code in main
Schwase: lol
Schwase: im not a real programmer
Schwase: im just a physics major who loves math and problem solving
Zuabros: Im a doctor
Zuabros: not an issue
Schwase: have you heard of new world?
Zuabros: new world?
Zuabros: nope
Schwase: its a mmo
Schwase: by amazon
Schwase: thats where my macros are going next
Zuabros: playing Bless Unleashed at xbox lately
Zuabros: did a WOW bot also
Zuabros: but then the game got bored
Zuabros: as it was too easy
Zuabros: with bot
Schwase: yeah
Schwase: i played legends of aria
Zuabros: just spoiled my fun
Schwase: and had 4 timber bots
Zuabros: its quite easy to code a pixel bot
Schwase: acquire wood
Schwase: sell wood
Schwase: buy wood
Schwase: inflate prices
Schwase: prosper
Zuabros: I had a wow bot to farm mobs and get elementals
Zuabros: then I had lotsa money
Zuabros: and no challenge anymore
Zuabros: and quit playing
Zuabros: duh
Schwase: new world is like rune scape
Schwase: but better graphuics
Schwase: and more stuff
Schwase: and combat
Zuabros: Ive been to consoles lately
Schwase: im excited is what im trying to say haha
Zuabros: we find less cheating there
Schwase: im starting classes next monday
Zuabros: damn alkhiljohn again
Schwase: so
Zuabros: this guy spent all day here
Schwase: damn you again
Schwase: hahaa
Schwase: ive been on since like 6
Schwase: and im up to 3000
Schwase: pretty good
DR1Rush: Guys, I´m going, please share my problem https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/53544b18608c3c96fe494cc25b7e177951af
Zuabros: I just had some break to code the gode golf trimmer
Schwase: havent even gotten to 50 clashes yet
DR1Rush: Check it, it is very good
Schwase: already did
DR1Rush: I know Schwase, thank you bro
DR1Rush: Bye bye
Schwase: NOOOO
Schwase: oh
Schwase: oof
Schwase: i misunderstood the problem lol
DR1Rush: What if N is larger so that the problem has to be solved with a math formula?
DR1Rush: Schwase? what do you think about it?
Schwase: 75%
Schwase: why
Schwase: :(
DR1Rush: Can you aprove my problem?
DR1Rush: wait it
DR1Rush: I put it as ready
Schwase: ZUABROS
Schwase: WHY 88%
Schwase: WHY
Zuabros: idk
Zuabros: my code was fine
Schwase: if contains 3,4 5+6 or 2+5 or 1+2
Schwase: lol
Schwase: nope
Schwase: wasnt what i thought it was
Schwase: hahaha
Schwase: what was it zua?
Zuabros: still trying to guess
Schwase: 50 clashes
Schwase: nice
Schwase: im ashamed that clash took me 3 whole minutes
Zuabros: :d
Zuabros: Just one my second clash
Zuabros: in 22 seconds
Zuabros: :D
Zuabros: reverese mode, asked smaller of two numers... duh
Schwase: definitely need to learn ruby
Schwase: if i want to be competitive
Zuabros: C# is fine
Schwase: even python would be an improvement
Zuabros: even golf can be done, as those are more difficult
Schwase: i do know python
Schwase: since im a physics major i use anaconda for labs
Zuabros: im fine with C#
Schwase: yessir
Schwase: we like those
Schwase: 13 second clash
Schwase: another one
Schwase: lets goo
Schwase: adrenaline pumping so fast
Schwase: holy crap that was a fast hour that just passed
Schwase: anyone else find clash extremely addicting
Schwase: i know the answer to that lol
Zuabros: yeah, tho it requires some practice in solving those kind of tests
Zuabros: doing CodeSignal "arcade" mode to full seems enough
Zuabros: I tried clashing some months ago and was not able to be competitive
Schwase: gotcha
Zuabros: with just algorithims, without Linq or Regex
Schwase: yeah i just dont find any value in extreme code golf
Zuabros: dont worry too much about golf
Schwase: i understand why its particular with things like replacing words with single chars but other than that meh
Schwase: i enjoy making efficient code
Schwase: with efficient loops
Zuabros: just try it
vighnesh153: hi
Zuabros: I always do golf
Zuabros: even with C#
Schwase: if i wanted to do a long puzzle i could do a classic puzzle
Schwase: ive done almost half of the puzzles in classic so
Zuabros: its fun
Zuabros: just relax and do what you can
Schwase: yeah
Schwase: alright
Schwase: im gonna go for now
Schwase: nice talking
Zuabros: use one-letter variables, remove spaces
Zuabros: remove comments
Schwase: yeah i know
Zuabros: thats it
Schwase: ctrl x
volkarion: Skynet Episode 1 trophy... to have 50 nodes left on the 4th test. What am I missing. At most I can keep 42...
volkarion: Oooh might have come up with an idea... going to try something
volkarion: Got it
fedtj: hello world
fedtj: I'm going to hack apple
fedtj: Is it good idea>
vighnesh153: yes
fedtj: and with c++
fedtj: i want to hack
vighnesh153: try HTML
fedtj: no html not so good chose for me
volkarion: CSS should get you there.
jrke: go for kali linux
Allis: Kali gave me a virus.
Damian-crypto: hi guys!
