MSmits: in the train back to work now, arriving in 5 minutes
MSmits: no teaching yet, first class on thursday
Marchete: to prepare classes?
MSmits: among other things yeah
MSmits: schools are fully open when the amount of infections is just as bad as when they first closed.... it's weird
Marchete: here is against bad
Marchete: but we are testing much much more
Marchete: so it's not exactly the same
MSmits: it's not, no
Marchete: I fear to send my kid to school in Sept...
MSmits: mostly fear for yourself, kid is probably more in danger of crossing the road every day to school
MSmits: but they infect older people
MSmits: people underestimate the amount of damage this virus can do to a 30-40 year old
MSmits: even if it doesn't kill them
Marchete: ..or not
MSmits: thats why statistics say anyway
Marchete: people understimate long term effects on an unknown virus
MSmits: Marchete yeah
MSmits: I feel our government has just decided to experiment with the health and lives of me and my colleagues by dropping us in a building with 1100 students
MSmits: a building originally meant for 600-700
Marchete: for science!
MSmits: maybe it will go ok, maybe not, it's still an experiment
Marchete: that's crazy
MSmits: right :P
Marchete: here we are trying to reduce to 50%
MSmits: not here, fully opening
MSmits: only rule is that they have to keep 1.5m distance from me
MSmits: and I can use a mask if I want to
Marchete: if you want?
Marchete: here we are pretty much mandatory
Marchete: they are trying to ban smoking in open ares if you are near others
MSmits: why smoking?
MSmits: does corona travel on smoke particles?
Marchete: smoke = no mask and air expelled with more force
MSmits: oh right
MSmits: smoking is not allowed in or near our school
MSmits: so that at least is no problem
Marchete: but no masks is really weird
Frosty8529: I am bad at programming and life
MSmits: ok gtg, I'll be back tonight
MSmits: sorry Frosty8529 gtg
Marchete: take care
chinaredclif: good morning
jacek: good morning
Thyl: good morning !
DiL: hello everyone
jrke: because -1 lies on right side of -4 on number line and right means greater
jacek: woooo new puzzle of the week
eulerscheZahl: hi dbdr your chat history script seems to be broken
dbdr: yeah, got a "Resource temporarily unavailable"
MSmits: got my meta mcts working last night for SameGame. I had it running with a single mcts turn of 1 minute
MSmits: got crap scores. I think I need to do 3 seconds per turn and then do a full mcts game
MSmits: papers confirmed this, seems like it is better to spread the mcts time over several turns instead of building the tree on turn 1
Westicles: euler, what happened to your submission for test1?
MSmits: hi capsguy
jacek: WHAT IF IT WAS SHIFT
MSmits: i meant he's typing in all caps, not that he used capslock :P
MSmits: it could be shift, indeed
DomiKo: I'm trying to catch you guys ;P
dbdr: nice progress DomiKo!
MSmits: I meant DomiKo, but good job to you to xlr4829
dbdr: random_guy> it doesn't make sense to compare [A] with [B], because they're not the same dbdr> Why would you compare things that are the same?
MSmits: why would you compare things that are different?
MSmits: why do any of us compare things?
dbdr: dbdr> A comparison is precisely between things that are not the same, to identify both similitudes and differences.
MSmits: yeah it gives true
dbdr: JBM, there were of the same nature
dbdr: JBM: so you are even more extreme than me :)
MSmits: mmh so basically I should find out if two things are the same before I compare them, otherwise there is no point?
dbdr: my point is rather that comparisons are fine
MSmits: I agree
MSmits: they're awesome
MSmits: good point dbdr
dbdr: I'm annoyed by this argument, it's illogical
MSmits: those are the best arguments
dbdr: it's just an easy way out of a comparison when you don't like the conclusion
MSmits: barely an inconvenience
MSmits: easy ways are tight
dbdr: wat? :D
MSmits: you dont get the reference?
MSmits: finally someone else besides me misses a reference
MSmits: sec let me link it
MSmits: damn slow wifi, just search youtube for "pitch meeting"
MSmits: there's hundreds and they are great
dbdr: outsourcing search :)
MSmits: yeah :)
MSmits: they pick a movie and imagine what the pitch meeting would have been like
MSmits: during which they slam the movie hard
dbdr: nice idea
MSmits: the reference were standard phrases, used in every instance
MSmits: you'll notice if you watch one
MSmits: thats the one for avengers end game
dbdr: I don't watch that much hollywood I think. but I did see Independence day ages ago, watching that one :)
dbdr: it's good
MSmits: yeah, i watch a lot of movies, so i can pretty much pick any one of them
MSmits: perks of working 4 days a week :P
MSmits: allright train arriving, ttyl
dbdr: hollywood is a strict subset of movies ;)
dbdr: got the "barely an inconvenience" :)
kovi: nice score domiko. still online?
DomiKo: with online i reached 110k
kovi: that is still very good
DomiKo: I got lucky in some cases
DomiKo: with offline I barely beat them
jrke: which could be best algo for samegame to learn
DomiKo: from papers i guess the NRPA
DomiKo: but MCTS is good too
DomiKo: you can try some MC like me
DomiKo: MC + simple heuristic
DomiKo: can give you really nice score
kovi: you can add SA to MC
DomiKo: maximum 18 degrees
DomiKo: and thrust/boost does't affect it
DomiKo: its always 18
ondron: so if angle of the point where the pod is going is 180° from where it is currently facing, it is going to turn at 18°/sec. Is the turning speed linear to the angle/10 of the point it is going to?
DomiKo: "The pod will pivot to face the destination point by a maximum of 18 degrees per turn and will then accelerate in that direction."
DomiKo: no problem ;)
cegprakash: suddenly a wild ceg appears
MSmits: kill it! It gives 20 xp!
MSmits: and pristine hides!
reCurse: I've already done my dailies
jacek: so i wrote an article on jacekmax
reCurse: Ok at least it's called properly :p
jacek: everything my idea is already written about :(
reCurse: Welcome to life
MSmits: sounds like you found a draft formula for locam :P
MSmits: using uct for draft :P
jacek: so im not original? :(
MSmits: ahh nvm, if you didnt do locam you have no idea what I am talking about :)
MSmits: bad reference
jacek: i know what locam is
MSmits: ok so you know I tried to find a draft formula using something like 30-40 parameters
MSmits: was just sayin your link looks like you cracked it
jacek: by draft i mean its ufinished
MSmits: i got that
MSmits: it's a poor joke lol, dont make me keep explaining it :P
jacek: i feel dumb :(
reCurse: Even calling that a joke is an offense to all dad jokes
MSmits: thanks reCurse
MSmits: I missed you
reCurse: Depending on your perspective it's either a compliment or an insult
reCurse: I'll leave the interpretation up to the reader
jacek: with every bullet*
inoryy: hi missed you, I'm inoryy
JBM: wrriting some more cglambda if anyone's bored https://www.twitch.tv/cg_jbm
jacek: it has so many meanings
darkhorse64: jacek: I just read your draft. Really nice from you to share your secret weaponry. Regarding your scoring for win/lose, I believe you can achieve the same result with a MCTS Solver where you record the depth at which the game is solved, thereby avoiding to mix eval/result in the backpropagation phase. It is likely it does not change anything but provides a cleaner implementation
jacek: darkhorse64 the solver is implied in the score. if abs(score) > 1 then it is solved (though i also have boolean solved in node for draws). the score depth is merely to choose fastest win or slowest lose
jacek: i backpropagate so the parent's score is -max children's score. if one child is win, then is lose for parent. if all children are lose then parent is win.
darkhorse64: This is well explained in your draft. My point was that it may be better implementation wise to have an explicit solver (which will handle nicely draws).
darkhorse64: I agree it's a very small detail
jacek: so its just implementation detail. just like if you use -1, 0 1 or 0, 0.5, 1
wlesavo: i think i missed smth, did eulerscheZahl fooled us with his high score on testcase1 and just gave us xss ejected link damn you euler
jacek: lets see what Automaton2000 thinks about him
Automaton2000: must be a reason for that
eulerscheZahl: no, that score was on the website for real
eulerscheZahl: maybe i've sent an email to the admins to fix their website :P
wlesavo: still funny though, i waited your updated score for quite a long time
jacek: Automaton2000 really?
Automaton2000: msmits did you try to submit my code in the referee
MSmits: crap he found me out
MSmits: eulerscheZahl you really should have gone for security specialist :P
MSmits: you're always doing this stuff
eulerscheZahl: i was surprised i fooled you and no one caught suspicion :D
MSmits: fooled me, even though not that long before you were discussing the security of the site...
eulerscheZahl: but honestly: that page is almost 20 years old. you can do stuff there that shouldn't work on a modern website
MSmits: makes sense
eulerscheZahl: and dbdr incited me to share a top score
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: yay i got an small improvement on testcase 2
MSmits: was trying a new UCT formula and tuning the parameters with a 1s turn timer got lucky
Illedan: Damn, fooled me too eulerscheZahl. Was waiting too. Even checked a few times to see if you submitted yet -.- I should learn..
eulerscheZahl: i definitely got a higher score within 4 days than everyone else trying for months :smirk:
Illedan: Take it as a compliment :P
eulerscheZahl: i do. and now i'll go to sleep. good night
Illedan: I'll go fix my nginx
Illedan: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
eulerscheZahl: fix it with apache? :P
eulerscheZahl: just trolling, i'm fine with nginx
Illedan: I'm just very bad at nginx
Illedan: Can't get it to push my html file public -.-
Illedan: Guess I broke something alone the wY
reCurse: Should be pretty easy
dbdr: oh, yeah, now it's my fault euler? :P
Westicles: eulerscheZahl is now a wanted man in germany
dbdr: I told him he would be fine, he can get internet and even play soccer in jail
jacek: with pencil and paper
DomiKo: so close and so far
BenFreanklin: What rank do you guys suggest
[4G]: LVL 3 :nerd:
jrke: when i was 10 i play dots and boxes with my friends and now in bot programming ;)
PatrickMcGinnisII: and your friends are still butthurt. ;) :P
markyy: how does clash of codes ranking work?