BenWo: hi BigBadStopwatch_4678
the site is pretty active
BenWo: though mostly during new contests
kovi: search race - is it possible to access code in from the old "contribution" version?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5073253abaee2588a9f6daa66ac49205fa5a
eulerscheZahl: you are still not level 29 :o
kovi: thx. it seems it is lost :(
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/sli5uo
eulerscheZahl: but you have to promote first
eulerscheZahl: why lost? i can download the code
eulerscheZahl: including that useless .DS_Store that Illedan attaches everywhere
kovi: well, no matter what i only see default code
Marchete: wow, paid and forced approvers, nice Illedan :D
kovi: :)
eulerscheZahl: i definitely did something wrong for space maze. needed 4 attempts to be approved within 30 days
Marchete: it's called money, euler
eulerscheZahl: :money_mouth:
eulerscheZahl: so, let's try to send invalid input to crash the game, then shame approvers
CyberLemonade: does c# have any errors like java's heap space?
aCat: I was thinking Illedan wan't to improve and polish the game visuals etc...
aCat: so hasty acc ;p
eulerscheZahl: but then he couldn't wait any longer and wanted to publish it
aCat: why he couldn't ?
eulerscheZahl: because he's impatient and want everyone to see what he did
aCat: ouh, yes
WINWINWIN: Do the graphics help analyze replays?
aCat: still he got plenty of space to make debug text so he limit it unnecessarily
aCat: honestly - if i't baby step for csb than debug mode with visible vectors would be fantastic
aCat: Profile picture !
https://www.codingame.com/profile/c4a50746f425cb125f77487aaf51350c7258821
aCat: :D
eulerscheZahl: you haven't seen that user before?
eulerscheZahl: let me guess: locam card?
aCat: yep
jrke: hey i am solving temperatures its showing me 93% one validator error anybody knows whats wrong i did in my code
eulerscheZahl: share your code
jrke: if i got banned
eulerscheZahl: ?
eulerscheZahl: it's just a puzzle, not a contest
eulerscheZahl: paste it in the chat
JoeBodian: i'm at top of leaderboard of wood league one in coders strike back, but im not getting promoted? can anyone help??
eulerscheZahl: are you above the boss?
eulerscheZahl: did you submit reach 100%?
eulerscheZahl: your*
jrke: no 93%
eulerscheZahl: @JoeBodian
JoeBodian: i am above the boss
anid: Submit has to be c completed JoeBodian
JoeBodian: how do i know if my submit reaches 100%
JoeBodian: ?
JoeBodian: sorry, im bery new to this site
anid: Look at the leaderboard
jrke: joeBodian click on battles you will see battle progress x%
anid: next to your name is there a circle or not?
JoeBodian: there is not a circle
JoeBodian: it says battles in progress 26%
JoeBodian: is that what you mean?
jrke: ya so what until this progress disappear
anid: Yes, Nicely done! You beat the boss very quickly
jrke: and you have to be above boss when its 100% means when it disappear
jrke: then you will be promoted :)
JoeBodian: do i have to keep pressing play and fast forward each time then??
eulerscheZahl: no
anid: No, it is automatically played
eulerscheZahl: did you click "play" or "submit"?
jrke: no
JoeBodian: i clicked submit
jrke: ya then just wait
eulerscheZahl: then open the last battles on the left
jrke: untill its 100%
eulerscheZahl: there should be more battles coming, will stop at some time
anid: CSB has a large league, so just wait for 10 mins for it to finish
eulerscheZahl: when you are finished, you need to be above the boss for promotion
jrke: yes CSB is eay as well as large leagues
jrke: *easy
eulerscheZahl: your submit is at 44% progress right now JoeBodian
JoeBodian: how do i make the battles play automatically?
anid: the submit button does that
anid: just click submit and wait till it finishes
eulerscheZahl: don't submit again, just wait a bit
JoeBodian: okay, cool. Thanks for your help and advice folks
JoeBodian: this site is great. it takes a bit of head scratching though
eulerscheZahl: promoted
Illedan: Hi
NicatSadiqov: hi
NicatSadiqov: hello
NicatSadiqov: hehe
Ace-Code: hii
Ace-Code: How are you?
tobk: Is it possible to "update" a published puzzle solution, or would that be a new published solution with different votes, comments, etc.?
eulerscheZahl: will be new, old solution will be hidden then
SabertheLost: So it turned out that my parsing of the pacman type always gave me undefined.That what I get for using a new langauge :)
IcedBlackSapphire: what clash of code is missing: a button "next challange". i don't want to submit, i want to just skip the challange or dismiss the challange
SabertheLost: but that only changed like 100 spots in silver :)
BigBadStopwatch_4678: whats up folks
BigBadStopwatch_4678: quick question -- this has been around for a few years... is it still growing and adding new content??
SabertheLost: There are challanges 2-4 time a year
SabertheLost: Was one last week.
SabertheLost: Those are always new
BigBadStopwatch_4678: how about the basic practice puzzles that seem to have about 50 or so per level (easy,medium, hard)
struct: Some are made by the community
struct: others are done by CG
struct: Same for multiplayers / optimization puzzles
BigBadStopwatch_4678: have those been growing, or mostly static ? im looking less to compete, more to learn (for now).
struct: They grow
struct: And there are a lot of them
BigBadStopwatch_4678: awesome.. i was looking for ways to mess with new languages, of all the ways i've seen, this is the best and actually fun.
struct: Also if you enjoy bot programming
struct: There are plenty of games for that too
BigBadStopwatch_4678: dont know about bots -- you mean physical machine?
struct: Artificial intelligence
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/467996862
struct: This was last contest
BigBadStopwatch_4678: ah cool, yeah im into machine learning in python. have you found any other places similar to this site, or others that pair well with this for continual growth in various areas
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/community
you can even watch the puzzle section growing. these are pending. some will be approved sooner or later, others just disappear as they aren't good enough
BigBadStopwatch_4678: very cool..
IcedBlackSapphire: yeah, i'd also be interested in places similar to this website
IcedBlackSapphire: have you found anything @BigBadStopwatch?
BigBadStopwatch_4678: i stumbled upon this place after someone in IRC (Freenode, #python) recommended it
IcedBlackSapphire: lol
IcedBlackSapphire: people still use irc
BigBadStopwatch_4678: yes, like the builders of the language
IcedBlackSapphire: didn't the builder of the language abandon it
BigBadStopwatch_4678: there are folks in there who possess the skill of all stackoverflow #python in a pinky. very good resource.
BigBadStopwatch_4678: I dont know what happened to guido, but i can say we still moved to ver 3 and dropped version 2 in 2020, so it lives on :)
IcedBlackSapphire: of all stackoverflow #python? :D
IcedBlackSapphire: finally you dropped version 2
BigBadStopwatch_4678: sorry, meaning python tag
IcedBlackSapphire: that's a good thing
IcedBlackSapphire: yeah, i get what you mean
IcedBlackSapphire: hopefully for python 4 it won't be the same situation with python 3 still being around and confusing ppl
BigBadStopwatch_4678: ive been developing at work lately, perhaps the past 1.5 yrs... all python. i wanted to get away from it. Like growing up in a town you never left. This place has helped shake off the cobwebs..
BigBadStopwatch_4678: how many languages have you dev'd in for these challenges?
IcedBlackSapphire: only ruby
IcedBlackSapphire: i learned my first bits in ruby 10 years ago
IcedBlackSapphire: it's a big comfort zone
IcedBlackSapphire: wouldn't give that up
BigBadStopwatch_4678: i dont know if it makes sense but i might try to get to easy level 10 in perhaps 5 langs
IcedBlackSapphire: once fluent in one language it hardly matters
IcedBlackSapphire: the other languages don't offer much benefits
BigBadStopwatch_4678: Lol, i had the same urge to just use python. i couldnt stand the idea of doing a "challenge" and having no idea what to do"
IcedBlackSapphire: i would just stick to python honestly
IcedBlackSapphire: try to level up your problem solving skills
IcedBlackSapphire: not your lang skills
IcedBlackSapphire: and if the problem seems boring or too much text i'd just click "Submit" at 0%
IcedBlackSapphire: there are only a few good problems here on clash of code
BigBadStopwatch_4678: There's some truth to this -- the more advanced you are, the more advanced PROGRAMMING concepts/challenges you take on. This is where growth comes from
BigBadStopwatch_4678: the language...is almost just a minor detail
IcedBlackSapphire: all things are simple they're are just taught in a way that they're hard to grasp
IcedBlackSapphire: put a n00b of physics or quantum computing into a room full with quantum scientists for 1 hr and they be able to explain quantum computing
IcedBlackSapphire: i'll be getting cigs, brb and thanks for the good talk (y)
SabertheLost: Not if the noob just don´t want to know. Or the scientists just draws math on a board for 2 hours
Uljahn: some algos make no sense in python within Codingame limitations, such as MCTS for uTTT in 100ms, it just doesn't converge with such a few rollouts
BigBadStopwatch_4678: Uljahn interesting point...
BigBadStopwatch_4678: IcedBlackSapphire i left because was looking for a pic to share on this concept
BigBadStopwatch_4678: IcedBlackSapphire: https://3ovyg21t17l11k49tk1oma21-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/KxC.jpg
Uljahn: i mean you could make MCTS in python for studying purposes but not expecting some meaningful results
BigBadStopwatch_4678: it's an XKCD style comic: productivity = k x c... K= working knowledge of every programming language known to man, C= lines of code. Lol.. directly to Uljahn's point..
BigBadStopwatch_4678: i joined the discord, is this chat in there?
Uljahn: nope, this chat is xmpp based
Uljahn: there is #general channel it's basically the same as #world
BigBadStopwatch_4678: thanks, Uljahn, how long have you been at this site training, and what have you focused on
Uljahn: 4 years, studying python from scratch
BigBadStopwatch_4678: interesting. I'm doing it just to look at other languages... get a feel for them, and to see if that gives me some flash of inspiration
Uljahn: also there are some exceptional libraries available on CG to make python not so slow: numpy and scipy
BigBadStopwatch_4678: good to know, ive heard things about numpy's speed
BigBadStopwatch_4678: im a python dev mostly
BigBadStopwatch_4678: if you want to learn something cool, check out async (asyncio, trio, twisted are some libs that enable this)
BigBadStopwatch_4678: its a mind bender, and better than multi-threading in most situations where folks think they want threading but really they just want async
Uljahn: a pity we are given 1 core on CG so no benefits of multithreading
BigBadStopwatch_4678: submit 100 http requests and wait for all the results, collect them as they come in, all with a single thread.
BigBadStopwatch_4678: https://realpython.com/async-io-python/
BigBadStopwatch_4678: it takes about a week to wrap your head around, but allows you to imitate multi threading w/ single thread.. also, if you dont use that site for learning, you should, the quality is through the roof. i've been leaning on it for like a year.
BigBadStopwatch_4678: and #python on irc freenode server... amazing resource with super talented devs in there, all wanting to give advice and correct code/help solve challenges. They were the ones that told me to use async instead of multi-threading, lots of painful growth began that day.
Uljahn: sorry, im not a dev and not a pro coder :sweat:
BigBadStopwatch_4678: well, just look at the most simple tutorial on that page for async (queue consumer / producer) it will change your view of what python can do.
BigBadStopwatch_4678: if there are no async challenges here, maybe i will write one
AntiSquid: so many people without avatars, hard to tell who is who
WINWINWIN: Yes, avatar is mandatory
AntiSquid: to avoid confusion definitely
WINWINWIN: And AntiSquid, meant to thank you for your Poker Chip Race referee
AntiSquid: it's not mine
AntiSquid: it's CG's
WINWINWIN: How did you get it then?
WINWINWIN: I could not find it online, it would be useful to have a hypersonic referee as well
AntiSquid: there is to be a slack server for CG where about 50 different people worked in teams on different games, the referees were shared there, but nobody shared any further, just kept it to themselves
AntiSquid: used to be *
WINWINWIN: Ok, so can use your collection, agades and eulerscheZahl`s then
AntiSquid: obviously
AntiSquid: if the hypersonic referee isn't there then i don't have it, but that one isn't as hard to reverse engineer as some other ones
AntiSquid: wait it is there
WINWINWIN: Only searched HyperSonic Referee on google to get eulerscheZahl`s
WINWINWIN: but his did not have a pathfinder
eulerscheZahl: a random ping happened
eulerscheZahl: and another one
WINWINWIN: so I took the one from pacman and modified it
WINWINWIN: sry that was me
WINWINWIN: should not have used the full name
njtan142: hey guys
eulerscheZahl: i'm pretty sure AntiSquid published HyperSonic
WINWINWIN: Will check it
eulerscheZahl: and reimplemented it before the official one got leaked
struct: What game is coming next?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/p38W4wH.png
eulerscheZahl: a puzzle about knight moves
struct: Yesterday I could not fall asleep thinking about it :(
eulerscheZahl: you are having a crysis now that yinsh is almost finished?
struct: Yes, now I want to port this game
jacek: i love making new projects and not finishing ones
eulerscheZahl: yes :D
jacek: isolation game?
KnightMoves: ??
AntiSquid: winwinwin ?
struct: isolation is 7x7
AntiSquid: it's there check same repo as the other ones
eulerscheZahl: oh dear. wasn't thinking about you KnightMoves
struct: Ok but Ill finish yinsh first
struct: Ill try to get everything done today
AntiSquid: struct your head got bigger
struct: Then ill do arimaa
jacek: is it free though
struct: "Game instructions are not clear!" on yinsh comment
struct: lol
struct: What is free jacek?
eulerscheZahl: it's like free Willy
AntiSquid: Arimaa is a two-player strategy board game that was designed to be playable with a standard chess set and difficult for computers while still being easy to learn and fun to play for humans. It was invented in 2003 by Omar Syed, an Indian-American computer engineer trained in artificial intelligence.
struct: Arimaa was mentioned here before
struct: plenty of times I think
AntiSquid: stop being stingy, pay for a CG premium account. then it won't matter which games on here are free or not
AntiSquid: jacek
struct: Im gonna try to make Yinsh pieces circles to see if it looks better
struct: tbh I cant understand what is going on on current viewer
ZarthaxX: isolation coming to cg? :O
AntiSquid: arimaa rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_nGecwCDnk sounds kinda confusing
struct: ZarthaxX give me diea for design
struct: you have degree in design help me
ZarthaxX: design for what
struct: Yinsh
ZarthaxX: mhm
struct: it looks like sh*T
ZarthaxX: LOL
ZarthaxX: i have my design for isola hehe
struct: isola*
ZarthaxX: wat
struct: *?
struct: Isolation I guess
ZarthaxX: isolation
ZarthaxX: yes
ZarthaxX: what's up with yinsh
struct: the design is terrible
struct: https://i.imgur.com/oISwJ1d.png
struct: Dont know who created this
ZarthaxX: doesnt look bad
ZarthaxX: LOL
ZarthaxX: *you*
eulerscheZahl: no struct
eulerscheZahl: you are talking to tobou now
ZarthaxX: lmao
struct: You think this design is fine?
ZarthaxX: hi toady
ZarthaxX: i like simple stuff like that
ZarthaxX: looks geometrically appealing
ZarthaxX: :P
ZarthaxX: lemme look at the original
AntiSquid: use astral bodies instead of weird circles
AntiSquid: ah chat scroll
ZarthaxX: the fuck :P
ZarthaxX: struct board has another layout tho
ZarthaxX: the crossing lines
eulerscheZahl: does it work?
ZarthaxX: wat
eulerscheZahl: tried yesterday, no effect
struct: I guess I can draw the lines
ZarthaxX: what are you talking about
struct: and enable a toggle
AntiSquid: the original does look different / better
struct: if toggle lines else show this mess
jrke: hey how can i pass PCR wood 2
ZarthaxX: https://www.boardspace.net/yinsh/english/rules_files/diag3.gif
ZarthaxX: want that?
struct: yeah i guess
AntiSquid: by beating the wood 2 boss
ZarthaxX: what about drawing those lines first
struct: I need math expert to teach me
ZarthaxX: eulerscheZahl
struct: Ok its easy
struct: Tobou told me
eulerscheZahl: ZarthaxX?
ZarthaxX: your brother heh
ZarthaxX: eulerscheZahl he said math expert
ZarthaxX: :D
struct: you are math guru euler
eulerscheZahl: i wasn't aware
eulerscheZahl: thanks for the honors
AntiSquid: now go forth and test your math skills
struct: First I need to see if circle looks better than
struct: hex
cegprakash: about 100 ppl are clashing r n on same clash
ZarthaxX: oh... true
cegprakash: codingarden is on fire
cegprakash: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1229736261bb695f803d0bef57608fcacb96d61
ZarthaxX: the definition sucks right?
struct: definition?
ZarthaxX: graphics
ZarthaxX: when doing circles
trictrac: hello all, struct : yinsh looks good
eulerscheZahl: i thought clashes are limited to 8 players? :o
ZarthaxX: looks pixelated¡?
trictrac: great job
cegprakash: https://www.twitch.tv/codinggarden is streaming COC
cegprakash: eulerscheZahl come
struct: Thanks trictrac, did you find any bugs?
ZarthaxX: trictrac i feel you get impressed easily :P
struct: I tried to implement all original rules
struct: Besides steal move
trictrac: not yet my old bot needs some adaptation on notations
trictrac: i submit and no problem
struct: ok, dont also forget that all moves must be done on same turn
trictrac: but only 10 match per submit
trictrac: it's too low
struct: its because its not aprooved yet
struct: Also I saw some Yinsh matches and they seem to avoid playing on middle
oscekh: are there any settings to remove method suggestions + method documentation on hover from the (clash) editor?
AntiSquid: F1
struct: Am I the only one that cant copy text from chat with right click?
oscekh: I can
struct: On firefox I can
struct: but on chrome not
struct: strange
Snef: i can on chrome
oscekh: @AntiSquid is that permanent? And can I change settings outside a game, or do I have to open some practice thing?
oscekh: Either way I can't find the correct setting in F1
struct: Does it look better with circles?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/89SZiEH.png
AntiSquid: why that color scheme?
AntiSquid: and yes imo
struct: I dont know what colors to use
AntiSquid: black white or something close to them
jacek: circles are better
struct: Okay, circles it is
cegprakash: Illedan that's wrong dude.. u are not adding all possible sums
eulerscheZahl: shame on you Illedan!
which context?
Illedan: Clash
struct: :scream:
eulerscheZahl: you lost a clash?
Illedan: nah
Illedan: 2nd in shortest
Illedan: with C#
Illedan: xD
eulerscheZahl: and the question doesn't ask you to sum and ceg did?
cegprakash: but his solution is wrong
cegprakash: I reported that clash for weak testcases
jacek: yeah, why you didnt invite euler
Illedan: Mine is right
cegprakash: u are not adding all possible sums
Illedan: I do
struct: What was the clash?
Illedan: Ah
Illedan: not all
Illedan: :D
Illedan: Most
Illedan: xD
cegprakash: in what order do u give denominations
cegprakash: wait I have ur code
cegprakash: I'll find a case where urs fail
Illedan: I should repeat that foreach N times
cegprakash: https://ideone.com/eNi3IG
cegprakash: see this Illedan
cegprakash: yes that's what I mean
cegprakash: ur solution is wrong
eulerscheZahl: willing to tell us the question?
cegprakash: may be if u do lot of iterations it can work
cegprakash: fulfilling denominations eulerscheZahl
cegprakash: 5+7+7 = 19 so it should return Yes
cegprakash: but Illedan's solution returns No
cegprakash: but he got 100 in the clash
eulerscheZahl: 0 results found
eulerscheZahl: 1 hit for denomination (without plural form): https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1121feae3b94d146df78469feac62b33ede2
cegprakash: not that
struct: hmmm
struct: https://i.imgur.com/MUL1ncr.gifv
Snef: the rotation feel they don't lay flat
struct: Maybe with lines it wil look better
struct: Instead of hex board
struct: https://i.imgur.com/9KFSGXH.png
struct: hmmm
struct: I guess Ill leave it now
jacek: noice
jacek: you traded hex for triangles
struct: Both options are availabe
journeyvivek: khoi hindi bath karthe hai
ZarthaxX: looks gud struct
ZarthaxX: you are welcome :)
struct: ill just add statement now
struct: everytime I need to touch code i feel like im gonna break something
BenjaminUrquhart: k
DiL: Hello! I used the disableChat=True parameter to hide chat while coding, but it seems to be no longer working... Does anyone know if there's a way to disable chat or prevent focus to be assigned to chat input box while editing?
Neumann: Illedan: I keep having random fails on SR, not always on the same tests .. Weird
struct: its bugged DiL
struct: everyone chat is disabled on IDE
Snef: i have chat in ide struct
BenjaminUrquhart: mine isn't
BenjaminUrquhart: I'm in IDE
struct: oh its fixed
BenjaminUrquhart: DiL you can collapse the window or inspect element it out
struct: I didnt read his entire sentece
struct: So I assumed
struct: Now i read and understand
BenjaminUrquhart: it just eats the parameter
BenjaminUrquhart: :thinking:
struct: maybe they disabled it
struct: to fix the other problem
DiL: BenjaminUrquhart yes, it would be nice to have a "focus" mode in settings so that there would be no need to hide chat manually! thanks btw
DiL: struct I also believe it caused other bugs so it has been removed... sadly
cegprakash: does anybody wants to costream with me?
BenjaminUrquhart: define costream
cegprakash: so u join me on discord through audio
cegprakash: while I code
cegprakash: and the viewers can hear both of us
cegprakash: but they can only see my face because I don't really know how to enable two web cams :D
BenjaminUrquhart: I can't, I'm busy until around 5pm EST
struct: MSmits on?
AntiSquid: oh damn ide chat is back
struct: kinda slow though
DiL: AntiSquid did you used disableChat parameter to hide chat?I did and it's no longer working...
Astrobytes: Confirmed.
Astrobytes: Just reported it in the bug channel on Discord
cegprakash: in pacman as depth increases is linear decay good or exponential decay good?
cegprakash: linear decay seem to work slightly better for my bot
Astrobytes: Then use linear decay
cegprakash: but some ppl use exponential decay :\
cegprakash: may be as I go huge depth of 20 linear depth is better for me?
Astrobytes: Your bot is not 'some people's' bot
Astrobytes: Try it out and see.
cegprakash: in exponential decay my last 5 depths have very very low score
Astrobytes: There's not usually a one-size-fits-all solution, it depends on how you're approaching the problem and your implementation
cegprakash: unlike linear decay
BenjaminUrquhart: have you tried just doing it and seeing what happens
Astrobytes: ceg the exponential decay will obviously reduce your score er... exponentially more the deeper you go. It depends on your eval scoring
struct: Time to write Yinsh essay
Astrobytes: And of course, by how much you are exponentially decaying per depth
struct: Ill just copy Yavalath statement style I guess
Astrobytes: Yes struct, that style should work perfectly for Yinsh
Snef: Astrobytes o/
Astrobytes: Hi Snef, wassup
struct: Yeah, but it takes so much time to make the pictures
Snef: Astrobytes good good, i'm waiting you on search race :p
Astrobytes: Couple of screenshots and some arrows here and there should suffice struct
Astrobytes: lol Snef, won't be tonight, but I'm coming for ya :D
Astrobytes: Epic score btw, gtratz :)
Astrobytes: *gratz
struct: wownice
struct: You have search snef?
Snef: noice
i was first yersteday but now there is re curse so i abandoned the idea of being first haha
Snef: yea i reused a part of my csb search and i tweeked it
kovi: so first re-use than re-curse
Astrobytes: :)
Snef: lol
Snef: are you joining SR soon kovi ?
kovi: working on it
Illedan: \o/
kovi: my csb code is messy
Snef: yea i had to do some clean up too :p
Snef: to debug how fast the search converge you check how much iteration is needed to get a fixed score ?
Astrobytes: My CSB code is also a large mess
jrke: My all codes are large mess :smiley:
kovi: ouch, tests are ok, but submit is not
Snef: Yeah me too, i have to do multiple submit to get 100%, often i have 98%
kovi: nah, i have a bug. only 80%
struct: Cant beat my Yinsh mess
Snef: I have a question
when i debug, i always get same score for the first turn.
so i tried to do one random before the search and i got different score but it's different each time, why it is so ?
ShannonNorris97: Just checking the chat's working cause I sent a message that never went through
ShannonNorris97: oh it's working now, weird
ShannonNorris97: Is there a way on codingame to check how many milliseconds each turn is taking? Looking at how to do this in Python, everyone on stack overflow seems to be arguing that everyone's doing it the wrong way without providing the right way
eulerscheZahl: classics, fights on the internet
eulerscheZahl: import time
start_time = time.time()
- ...
time.time() - start_time
BenjaminUrquhart: just pick a way and do it
Astrobytes: hi euler
struct: import time
start = time.process_time()
- your code here
print(time.process_time() - start)
eulerscheZahl: i would just go with this and see if there are unexpected timeouts
ShannonNorris97: That was my original approach, but apparently you can't use it for milliseconds because it's nowhere near accurate enough
Astrobytes: And make sure you do this *After reading the first input*
eulerscheZahl: and make sure to start the timer ...
yeah Astrobytes was faster
Astrobytes: :D
struct: MSmits here?
struct: Need him
ShannonNorris97: I'll just try a few and see if it works out. I was mainly just checking if this was something that codingame provided already that I may have just not noticed
Astrobytes: And don't forget the first turn is 1s so you may have to restart after the read in the first turn
Astrobytes: *during the read
eulerscheZahl: time checking is language specific. nothing that CG does differently
Astrobytes: *second turn
ShannonNorris97: okay, thank you both
Astrobytes: You're welcome
mohammadhei05: heloo
mohammadhei05: how are yo
mohammadhei05: which language do you write a program in ???
eulerscheZahl: in D
Astrobytes: There is only D
pb4: Snef : why abandon ?
jacek: D#
Snef: pb4 because i feel i'm not good enough to grind efficiently
reCurse: Snef: There is almost no difference between search and no search on my end
reCurse: Except that it takes 4500x more time
Astrobytes: Look at your score tho' Snef
Snef: reCurse could you communicate your best times for Tokyo and line is it doesn't bother you ?
Snef: if *
Snef: Astrobytes i really feel my score isn't that good
pb4: do the validators have names ?!
reCurse: Didn't keep track of my alltime best
Snef: pb4 the last ones yea
struct: What is your best Snef?
Astrobytes: Only some pb4, a few were handpicked
Snef: for which struct ?
struct: Tokyio
kovi: those are good scores
struct: Tokyo*
Astrobytes: Come on Snef, that's damn good
Snef: https://www.codingame.com/replay/468293130
Astrobytes: And you *know* you can make some improvements
reCurse: For Tokyo I have 108.88
Snef: Astrobytes regarding what i did i really think someone good can do better, or i was just lucky
struct: nice I get 114.51
Astrobytes: That's a bit defeatist Snef, don't be so hard on yourself
Snef: i'm not hard i'm realistic lol
Astrobytes: If you want to achieve, work to achieve
Astrobytes: (Got my motivational head on today)
Snef: ofc (haha)
Snef: but i don't know exactly how should i do to do proper local test
Snef: without it i can't improve
Astrobytes: Write a local arena I guess?
Astrobytes: The map gen. code is in the repo
pb4: Snef : linux or windows ?
pb4: (or something else ? :D)
Snef: windows
Snef: i'm using visual studio
pb4: If linux : https://github.com/Agade09/CSB-Runner-Arena
m1el: hey
m1el: why did my points get reset to 0
CodeCreativity: hello
CodeCreativity: can anyone explain to me why this works
CodeCreativity: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6e143c6c-b5c9-4d4d-9db1-5e56b65f4919
jacek: why wouldnt
m1el: this doesn't work because this is infinite loop
CodeCreativity: it did
m1el: maybe it throws on the last readline() because it's EOF
CodeCreativity: EOF?
Astrobytes: End of file
Astrobytes: The infinite loop is there until CG server receives all the responses it requires, then terminates
Snef: pb4 so no arena for windows i guess ?
Astrobytes: It looks a bit counter-intuitive at first sight but it's how it works on CG
Astrobytes: Snef, since it's single player it should be easy enough to implement in VS
Astrobytes: (without much effort I mean)
Astrobytes: Just make your referee, generate maps, feed it your bot and gather stats
YurkovAS: Snef i'm run all tests like this (change 2 variables)
https://pastebin.com/QWFLHhpQ
Astrobytes: O you can use brutaltester for optims
Astrobytes: That did not occur to me
Snef: so i need the referee and you firl YurkovAS that's all ?
Snef: file *
YurkovAS: Snef, yes, download referee, save this file to tests dir, open in ide (intellij idea) and run method from ide.
Astrobytes: Hm. It's not slow?
YurkovAS: Astrobytes yes, slow. not hard to add concurrency.
Astrobytes: Guess so. I'm just allergic to Java :P
CodeCreativity: you guys are speaking gibberish but thank you anyways
Snef: i think i'll try to do my own setup in vs so that i can learn too
JBM: everybody is Astrobytes
Astrobytes: If you need any visualisation Snef I recommend OpenGL or SFML (built on OpenGL, SDL, or even OLC PCE (Pixel game engine - 1 header file), ImGui if you need a nice simple UI (haven't tried it with the PGE but apparently doable)
JBM: there's just those who know and those not yet
Astrobytes: *PGE not PCE
Astrobytes: lol JBM
Snef: Astrobytes i think i'll just do commande line output or store score in a file ^^
Astrobytes: All good Snef, sometimes helps with visuals (plus it's a fun project)
Astrobytes: JBM are you not gonna make the TvC WIP public?
JBM: eventually
JBM: got mucha breaking changes incoming
JBM: it's been 3 days, gimme a break
JBM: it's not secret anyway, share at will
Astrobytes: hehe, no worries man
struct: No, you must get spammed until you finish
JBM: just broke the stone counter for you
JBM: but "fixed' smth that was broken from the start at last
Astrobytes: Only you and Illedan get the spam treatment struct :P
Illedan: And I'm done :D
JBM: for now
Illedan: Jk, I'm adding stuff atm
Illedan: But only visuals and minor fixes
Astrobytes: Custom maps?
Illedan: I realised there was a bug too. If you drive so fast that you visit 2 checkpoints on 1 turn. It will only register 1 -.-
reCurse: ...................
kovi: i was thinking about that and what about 3?
Astrobytes: ffs Illedan
Illedan: ...
reCurse: illedaaaaaaaaaaan
Astrobytes: fix it
Snef: i assumed it wasn't possible so i don't check that too xd
Illedan: Yeeeeeah
Illedan: But you would need INSANE speed
Illedan: And that is not optimal anyway
Illedan: but I'm fixing...
darkhorse64: The statement says that positions are rounded when the referee truncats them
darkhorse64: *truncates*
Illedan: Ah, ty
Astrobytes: (don't blame any of us for approving this contribution btw, he made us do it)
JBM: at podpoint
reCurse: https://i.imgflip.com/42hcty.jpg
Astrobytes: Absolutely
Illedan: https://twitter.com/erik_kvanli/status/1263902985899380737æ
Illedan: Hope the skidmarks will make life better
Illedan: :D
JBM: https://twitter.com/erik_kvanli/status/1263902985899380737 for the lazy
Astrobytes: Skidmarks always make life better. Depending on their location...
Astrobytes: Btw, I suggested skid marks first ILLEDAN
Astrobytes: Alongside the procedurally-generated exhausts and tyre-smoke :P
reCurse: You need to negotiate your approval better
Astrobytes: Noted for future reference.
Illedan: Anyone got a smooth run on Hold the line?
Illedan: Like: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/468496294
Just by finishing it too :D
struct: wtf is this map
Snef: my best what that :
Snef: https://www.codingame.com/replay/468292090
Snef: was*
Illedan: 111, nice
struct: my best
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/468497033
Snef: did you add bonus to cp struct ?
kovi: you limit thrust to 0 and 200?
Astrobytes: lol, "Hmmm, will I, no, I hate 7, but I wanna go to 7, no I don't"
struct: yes snef, I think my bug is in my collision time
Snef: who kovi ?
struct: I havent tried to find the bug yet
kovi: struct
struct: yes kovi
struct: 0 200
kovi: that is the problem
kovi: i have been there
Snef: i'm not sure that it it
Snef: also do you score after all turn or each turn struct ?
struct: all turn
Snef: so getting cp turn 1 isn't better than getting it last turn for you ?
struct: right
struct: might be due to that too
Snef: and also what depth do you have ?
reCurse: Your bot is slacking off like you with yinsh
Snef: OOF
struct: depth 4
struct: Im only missing statement :(
Illedan: Add Decay struct?
Snef: you should try higher depth ot's not like csb
struct: Ill see what I can do, thanks for the tips
struct: I probably will not work on it today though
kovi: the problem is: taking 200 on first step brings too far from next target...almost all of the time its better to take 0
Illedan: You need to search deeper than depth 10
Scarfield: if you reduce the score too much by distance to the next CP, you could get a higher score by not getting the current CP, instead of taking it and get further away from the next CP
darkhorse64: This one is good quite good https://www.codingame.com/replay/468497011
Snef: yea increasing reward should do it + scoring each turn
Illedan: Damn, I see I need to add player avatar darkhorse64. Else we can't see who owns a replay
kovi: nice darkhorse
Snef: 0.03 slower thane mine :p but wp
Snef: -e
reCurse: Was the approval rushed? :thinking:
struct: not at all
struct: :D
Illedan: Push to production
Illedan: never look back
JBM: how dare you
Scarfield: I stand by Illes decision to let us approve :p
struct: 16650.070000000007
struct: That number so big
Illedan: 100%?
struct: no
Snef: because failure += 1000
Snef: what % were you ?
struct: 94%
struct: i failed 3
struct: i think
WINWINWIN: Anyone working on Smash The Code?
struct: I worked on smash the code before
Illedan: Search Race WINWINWIN
struct: why?
reCurse: I did
Snef: so you can remove around 700 per fail so about 14000-14500 if you succcess all ?
WINWINWIN: Am starting and wanted tips
reCurse: Align stones of the same color
WINWINWIN: Illedan search race has been approved?
WINWINWIN: reCurse, will start with that but is it enough for Bronze?
reCurse: Probably? I dunno
struct: You dont even need that for bronze
WINWINWIN: K, will try it :)
struct: For bronze you just need to make legal moves
Snef: do one column per color and once you have one offset it by 1
reCurse: Ah, good old stairs
WINWINWIN: Much simpler Snef, will start with that :)
Insufficient: completed illedan's new puzzle with my gigadumb heuristic script from CSB
Insufficient: car go vroom
JBM: i suppose -3v is a regression test there
reCurse: haha brute force go brr
Doju: Damn, I'm absolutely stumped by a CoC and somebody did it in 44 chars :o
JBM: that happens
Astrobytes: "brute force go brr" is now an official meme reCurse :)
JBM: needs more impact
reCurse: I was going to repurpose the official meme for that forum post
Astrobytes: BRRR
reCurse: But decided against it
Astrobytes: :)
JBM: that's how fate is decided
reCurse: "Nooooo you can't just enumerate all states and simulate to get a dumb result. True AI requires careful crafting of if/else with constant values." "haha brute force go brrrr"
JBM: how is ur -3v
JBM: talking of memes
JBM: we haven't seen *him* in a while have we
struct: I called him for SR
struct: He didnt come :(
JBM: i don't grok acronyms anymore
JBM: sugar rush? special race? star rift?
reCurse: He's working on autonomous pod racing now
reCurse: No time for CG
Scarfield: Space Race
JBM: i;m lost
Snef: Search Race*
Scarfield: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/search-race
JBM: just say "the latest illedan"
Illedan: TLI
JBM: e.g.
struct: PCWST
reCurse: Illedan's latest bribed submission
Scarfield: shh it was supposed to be a secret
JBM: didnt even pay tht much
JBM: so i heard
Illedan: Every replay you watch renders an add, giving me money. All behind the background..
Scarfield: i regained my password to the site :p
Illedan: *ad
JBM: MONIES
Sobieski: Hi !
Illedan: Like the hack you can do on ooc :D
JBM: i'm still waiting for that .24EUR google owes me
Scarfield: hi :wave:
struct: sue them
ZarthaxX: what hack Illedan
JBM: that would cost me almost half my earnings!
struct: Im a lawyer, if you need help call me
JBM: if nor moar
JBM: i don't need help i need monies
JBM: to pay for a real lawyer
Astrobytes: Better call Saul
JBM: done with it
JBM: (for now)
struct: Yes, and im here to help you to get your 0.24€
Astrobytes: Better call struct
JBM: still yearnin' for it
Scarfield: https://youtu.be/_M457oZzyos?t=4 JBM
JBM: pining for the fjord and stuff
JBM: this better be worth it
JBM: mmk
struct: I need MSmits
JBM: now i'm going to have to add ML-style sound FX as retaliation
Astrobytes: Backing up on chat a lil bit, wrt to Madeleine Knight, what's with him lately? When he's around he's grumpy af
JBM: no news here
JBM: hence my asking
Astrobytes: Perhaps we breached his troll-coping limit
JBM: funny to think it's the outside world that made a difference
Astrobytes: Quite
struct: for my next port I cant give legal moves :/
Illedan: Update with skidmarks inc. What could go wrong :o
struct: I dont see them
struct: Is it submited?
Illedan: Building
Illedan: Done
Scarfield: time for donuts
Astrobytes: You know, in Scots language, skids are your underwear. Skidmarks are therefore...
Illedan: I have code to check if you draw NSFW stuff and crash you
Scarfield: xD
reCurse: Alright just improved by 27 with no search
reCurse: The power of brrrrrute force
Astrobytes: YAY I have skidmarks...
struct: You did skidmarks with javascript Illedan?
Astrobytes: reCurse's pything goes brrr
reCurse: tfw you get captcha again because of optim game
pb4: There are captchas for normal multis too :innocent:
struct: Illedan https://www.codingame.com/replay/468505914
pb4: Just need to submit often enough :D
Snef: stop improving reCurse pls
reCurse: Sorry just shaved another 20
Illedan: WHAT
Illedan: how the hell do you get the player image
Illedan: -.-.
Illedan: I added it, saw it offline. But I can't see it myself
Illedan: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
struct: let me see if it works on yinsh
Doju: When did you release this game Illedan?
reCurse: I want to break under 11k
Illedan: yesteday
Doju: Alright, cool
struct: works on yinsh
Illedan: I cant see in IDE games
Illedan: only on shared
Illedan: wtf
Snef: could a ga using your nn as base population could be good reCurse ?
reCurse: Yay another 19
Illedan: rng gods?
reCurse: Doubtful
reCurse: And maybe
Snef: i can test it for you :D
Astrobytes: Um, Illedan, is the player image supposed to be in the middle of the viewer?
Illedan: Yes, but 30 % opacity
Illedan: so you drive above it
Illedan: but I can't see in the ide
reCurse: My hold the line is complete garbage though
reCurse: Maybe I should hardcode it
m1el: mfw I get captcha on every single challenge
Doju: This is very different to the pac thing. Don't even know how you would do a search with this thing since nothing is discrete
Doju: guess it's time to do a bunch of learning again
Astrobytes: Doesn't look like 30% opacity to me, and not viewable in IDE either
Snef: reCurse what score do you have on it ?
Illedan: No idea why
reCurse: 144
Snef: oh
reCurse: I'm not sharing replays because of hardcoding
Snef: is it a troll ?
reCurse: Not really
pb4: ^
Snef: so i shouldn't have shared my best ?
reCurse: Nope
kovi: 116
pb4: It'd be easy to extract the exact path
reCurse: Don't worry I'm not stealing it
Snef: :/
reCurse: Have more honor than that
reCurse: But others might
Astrobytes: Fk hardcoding
Doju: Oh are the goals not random?
Astrobytes: No satisfaction
reCurse: Welcome to optim games
Doju: that's an interesting design choice
Snef: hold the line in ide test case is the same as hold the line in validator ?
reCurse: The only thing that's more terrible is code golf
reCurse: and coc
reCurse: I guess
reCurse: Holy progress batman
reCurse: This training is on a roll
reCurse: Only 9 to go
reCurse: 10980 \o/
Astrobytes: Lies. Witchcraft. Voodoo!
Snef: gg
Snef: gg
Illedan: gg
Scarfield: gg
Astrobytes: wp dude
Alshock: what are we talking about? GG anyway
Astrobytes: SR
Snef: Search Race optim
Alshock: aw
Alshock: barely first heard the name earlier
reCurse: I'm going to hit the submit limit at this rate
kovi: nice recurse
reCurse: Next step is to code a script that submits 25 models every 5 hours
JBM: errr, gg </lag>
kovi: i already got reached by fixing timeout and 0/200 stuck
kovi: reached 25 limit
reCurse: CPU is not done though
reCurse: Probably another -30 coming
m1el: > run all tests > greeeeen > submit > 80%
BenjaminUrquhart: :thumbsup:
Astrobytes: Gah, painkiller mindfuck achieved, time to veg on the sofa for a bit. Gn/bn all.
struct: gn
reCurse: Tokyo drift is kinda pretty with skidmarks
JBM: good couching astroes
reCurse: bn
Astrobytes: ;)
Scarfield: gn
Illedan: I need a better bot to see the pretty skidmarks on Tokyo drift :(
reCurse: On Discord I could just paste a screenshot I guess
struct: I would share screenshot but someone might reverse and harcode it
Snef: i pm you replay illedan i trust you won't hardcode :p
Illedan: Thx :D
Illedan: And paste on discord reCurse
Illedan: \o/
reCurse: Probably not much different than his
ChosenBetter: hi
Illedan: Want the extra publisity
reCurse: I don't think it's possible to do better than 107.95 on Tokyo
Illedan: only 18 angle?
Snef: i have 107.15 reCurse
reCurse: 9/18
reCurse: FUCK
Illedan: :D
reCurse: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Snef: XD
Snef: but i dont have 9/18
reCurse: Ok I have 107.41 now
Snef: on my local arena i do tokyo in 250 turn :(
reCurse: Hmm I just realized my reward is integer
reCurse: Dammit
reCurse: Not restarting this training
kovi: 890?
reCurse: Yeah my CPU went hold my beer
reCurse: It's not stagnating yet
MightySuperstar_6aa4: hello everyone
struct: hi
struct: Illedan you stil here?
Illedan: y
Alshock: Yes! I wanted to try out the most stupid heuristic, and ended up with a rose: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/468515848
struct: https://i.imgur.com/bY5NGcK.gifv
struct: Do you know why this happens?
Illedan: huh?
Alshock: wait wtf is that?
struct: Yeah
struct: wtf
struct: is this
struct: Java
Kellthazar: Illedan, congratz for the Search Race. Pretty fun! :)
Illedan: Thx :D
struct: Is it my error?
struct: I cant figure it out why
reCurse: Of course it's your error
reCurse: Check punctuation
struct: oh
Alshock: well for some reason the last one is a bug, but I don't even know what you're trying to do there
struct: thanks
Alshock: oh it's a list of elements?
Scarfield: no crash illedan xD
https://prnt.sc/sm1ve4
Illedan: :P
reCurse: 106.71 tokyo
Illedan: :clap:
BigBadStopwatch_4678: anyone here tried to mess with more than 4 of 5 languages ?
BigBadStopwatch_4678: especially over the course of an extended period? im thinking i might do each challenge for beginner level in like 5 or 6 languages... i want to see if maybe it turns on some lightbulb.. I code exclusively in python for work..
Illedan: Damn, I want to make a SR video of Tokyo drift with the Deja Vu sound track as it drifts :D
Uljahn: xD
Illedan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA&feature=youtu.be&t=143
Illedan: And this overlay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7cs11HaqEA&app=desktop
Illedan: Would be epic :D
Snef: I have a question for c++ user with visua studio
Snef: i have a txt file with the data of the map
Snef: i made an option so that i can read from it with cin
Snef: but once i have read the whole file, how can i "reset" it ..?
struct: You mean like starting again from the top and reading again inputs?
Snef: i just found, it was cin.seekg(0)
Snef: yes struct
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/468534920
That is one way to do it :D
reCurse: Go home Illedan you're drunk
Illedan: Beam search not very easy to get working :D
struct: We are missing sounds
Illedan: You want break sounds?
reCurse: I want my vin diesel skin microtransaction
struct: Only if i can disable it
reCurse: Then what's the point
struct: Not everyone might enjoy them
struct: So a option to disable should be nice
struct: I worded poorly when I said "only if I can disable it"
reCurse: No it's only in my races
reCurse: Since I bought it
struct: pw2
struct: p2w
reCurse: Wonder if I reached optimum diesel
struct: Do you train with a given set of moves?
reCurse: Yeah
Illedan: How many speeds do you use?
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/468537038
Illedan: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Snef: you really want to face the cpid+1 lol
reCurse: Looks like walking a dog
Snef: haha yea
Snef: my submit code randomly fails test cases i can't understand
Illedan: Neumann said he had that too. But it worked if he uses less time :shrug:
Snef: but it's weird that in ide it works
Illedan: Might be a bug with running validators and timeout :(
Illedan: but I'll go sleep anyway
reCurse: Same issue here
Illedan: gn
reCurse: gn
Snef: oh
Snef: i have a fail in IDE
BigBadStopwatch_4678: is rust broken on here
cegprakash: gm
AKZOMBIE74: hey
BigBadStopwatch_4678: sup
AKZOMBIE74: my google account that i used to sign up with codingame will be deleted when i graduate from high school
BigBadStopwatch_4678: ope...
AKZOMBIE74: is there a way to link another google account to this account?
BigBadStopwatch_4678: have you checked everything in settings?
AKZOMBIE74: yeah i just checked
AKZOMBIE74: it says i can change email
AKZOMBIE74: lit, so i'm good
cegprakash: I'll be streaming the multi Oware Abapa in about 10-15 minutes. My goal is to reach top 20 under 2 hours. If you are interested in learning GA/Minimax do join the stream! https://twitch.tv/cegprakash
BigBadStopwatch_4678: for power of thor, why would the bottom of the map have a higher Y. that makes no sense mathematically. That cost me about 30 mins. Jeez.
cegprakash: all games in CG have bottom of the map with higher Y
cegprakash: wait I may be wrong
cegprakash: I also face such problems
NapTown: because you input the map top-down
cegprakash: my stream has started
cegprakash: https://twitch.tv/cegprakash
Gerbil: It's almost as if it's helpful to read the puzzle descriptions :thinking: It's also noteworthy that this orientation is common in computer graphics in general.
JoeBodian: i'm at top of leaderboard of wood league one in coders strike back, but im not getting promoted? can anyone help??
