KiwiTae: >>,<
romrd468: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**romrd468 slaps MadKnight around a bit with a large fishbot
MadKnight: romrd468 mad, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you don't have to look into that
aCat: hmm, the contest will actually end monday morning?
reCurse: As usual
aCat: You know that actually I'm rarely active on this platform :>?
aCat: However when I am active I make a lot of fuss around ;p
aCat: I skipped a few contests before OoC
aCat: but thanks for the answer ;p
Lakshman_kishore: hello world!!!
Lakshman_kishore: hahahahahhahahaha
Jarmo_van_de_Seijp: gDAt
Jarmo_van_de_Seijp: gDay
Arnav-S: Can anyone help me figure out what we have to do in Reverse Engineering CodinGame puzzle, i solved it but my how do i get to a better rank??
MadKnight: collect the score points
MadKnight: ez
Arnav-S: I dont understand
Arnav-S: what do you mean collect?
Arnav-S: how do i improve my rank in that particular puzzle
MadKnight: PM
AntiSquid: check forums Arnav if you want spoilers, puzzle is about figuring out how to play the game
Nagatwin: Hey
Nagatwin: Ani advice of resource for code vs zombie ?
Nagatwin: got a full random search, would like to improve
struct: What score do you get Nagatwin?
Nagatwin: 190k
struct: I think you need lucky submit
Nagatwin: 170 sometimes, depends on the submit
struct: I think top is hardcoded
struct: at least mine is
Nagatwin: How do you hardcode ?
struct: There is one validator that you get over 400k points
struct: Validators are "leaked"
Nagatwin: hm
Nagatwin: Okay thanks
dbdr: Nagatwin https://github.com/dbdr/codingame-validators
Nagatwin: Thanks
Nagatwin: dbdr :D
dbdr: it should be fair
BeeGee: Is there a shortcut to play the custom testcase?
struct: I just run the sim offline
struct: I just read the coordinates one time in my code anyways
struct: after that I update the game state depending on my output
MSmits: just invited all my last year CS class students to join in the contest. Many of them have finished all tests, so I hope at least 1 or 2 will join
MSmits: I should ask my colleague to invite the other students as well
struct: the more the merrier
MSmits: we have over 100 total CS students so it should be possible ot get 3 in a team. Not sure
struct: Prizes might be announced tomorrow
MSmits: ah cool, dont really care about the prizes though.
MSmits: if there is no prize i will participate just as seriously
struct: Yeah, for me it doesnt matter too, I have no skill to fight for them
WINWINWIN: Same here struct :)
MSmits: which is odd. You are obviously a great coder,
MSmits: not sure what you think you're lacking
MSmits: maybe just need practice
struct: Maybe, sometimes I tend to rush stuff too
MSmits: well there is a time limit
struct: You are doing bitboard on STC right?
MSmits: yeah, i know it works, but i dont know if it is fast
MSmits: the flood fill might be a bit slow
struct: how does the board look like?
MSmits: uint16_t[6]
MSmits: for each color
MSmits: and one for all colors combined
MSmits: and one for skulls
MSmits: one uint16_t is a column
struct: ah
MSmits: because it;s 12 high
struct: so 6 6
MSmits: the whole board is uint16[42]
Astrobytes: One for skulls?
MSmits: yes
struct: 7*6
MSmits: right
struct: Why one for skulls?
struct: and one for colors?
struct: colors combined*
MSmits: you need to floodfill it per color
MSmits: colors combined is just to know what will fall
MSmits: if red disappears, the other colors fall too
MSmits: so you need a full board to know where the holes were made
MSmits: skulls also disappear. I floodfill a color, then i floodfill it 1 more cell to disappear adjacent skulls
MSmits: i need the skull board for that
LoGos: STC - Smash the Code?
MSmits: yes
Astrobytes: Oh I thought you meant just 1 uint16_t
LoGos: thanks
Astrobytes: lol, that explains that :D
MSmits: nope, it's a full board per color :)
Astrobytes: For the skulls I meant
MSmits: yeah
Astrobytes: A board of them makes more sense, I need another coffee clearly
MSmits: yup
MSmits: here: :coffee:
Astrobytes: Thanks :P
MSmits: well I need to get 1 million sims to see if it's worth it
MSmits: it might not be
Astrobytes: only one way to find out
MSmits: yep
darkhorse64: For those afraid of bitboarding, you can get by with a simple 2D array. It may be slower but it's plenty fast enough
MSmits: it might be faster
MSmits: I have to do a lot of ops to make it work and also some conditions
darkhorse64: Don't know and did not try. I did not reach the 1 M sims but I reach Legend
MSmits: cool
MSmits: do you eval connected colors?
MSmits: like 2 or 3 of the same color adjacent?
MSmits: or just score?
struct: You also want to eval the column
MSmits: what do you mean struct?
struct: Place in middle is better
darkhorse64: I wrote a GA to find the best combo. Wood to Gold with it. I have a construction score: 2 connected < 3 connected. That values constructs with potential
MSmits: hm ok
AntiSquid: oh MSmits planning to top the school leaderboard ? :p
MSmits: how about 4 connected with a hole in it?
darkhorse64: I have also a score for columns
MSmits: AntiSquid not gonna happen, i just want my school on there
MSmits: We should do ok if I do ok
struct: These are my numbers
darkhorse64: I did not score holes. The gold boss is very hard
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/456862718
struct: F = floodfills
MSmits: nice struct
struct: You dont want games to get so long too
struct: That was just to get a general idea
struct: I post moterm, rank 1 says he had around 1.4mill
struct: sims
MSmits: struct do you just have an array of objects?
MSmits: an object is a cell?
MSmits: cell can be empty, red, blue, skull etc.
struct: int8_t grid[HEIGHT][WIDTH];
eulerscheZahl: the gold boss is definitely beatable
struct: The number is the color
MSmits: ahh I see
struct: I also have these
int8_t columnsHeight[WIDTH] = { 0 };
int8_t placedColors[COLORS] = { 0 };
eulerscheZahl: i offer grid[WIDTH][HEIGHT+2]
eulerscheZahl: oh, you have that too
LoGos: Sorry to interfere. Any tips on how to tune parameters (hyperparameters?) ? I'm currently doing grid search but I'm not sure it's the best use of time.
MSmits: why + 2
darkhorse64: Once I understood why I was losing, yes
struct: So you have like a lookup table for legal moves MSmits
struct: I have
Lookup **ptr = &lookupTable[0];
eulerscheZahl: and colors on the board to know if we can skip a BFS
MSmits: I dont have much of anything yet, just been working on my "apply move" function
WINWINWIN: In botters of the galaxy
WINWINWIN: if this error comes
WINWINWIN: Can't attack unit of id: 24
WINWINWIN: does it mean that the unit is behind a bush?
AntiSquid: maybe it died when you try to attack
eulerscheZahl: or is it yours?
MSmits: LoGos I just mess around with cg benchmark and excel or sometimes a local test if it is worth playing my bot against itself
AntiSquid: show replay :/
WINWINWIN: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/456864012
AntiSquid: frame ?
LoGos: MSmits thanks for the reply. I currently have a python script that changes my c++ code and runs CGBench on it
WINWINWIN: 45
MSmits: LoGos that works
WINWINWIN: This time the err was cant attack unit of id : 32
struct: There is some more stuff I do too
struct: I might go back to STC after contest
struct: I simulate all possible states for enemy until certain depth
struct: and store best score
AntiSquid: hover your mouse over the units WINWINWIN
struct: for each depth
AntiSquid: there is no id 32 alive
WINWINWIN: Hmm, it died before I could reach it, thanks AntiSquid
struct: at depth 3 is 10648 moves at worst case
struct: So I think its worth
MSmits: yeah might be
struct: The problem is that the game is decided too early imo
struct: You make 1 wrong move and you lose
AntiSquid: you can attack your own units if they are low on health btw WINWINWIN
MSmits: thats true for both players struct.
MSmits: should factor into your bot
WINWINWIN: Hmm, not really working on gaining gold for now
struct: Yeah, I guess this happens in many multies
WINWINWIN: Mostly following blitzprog`s PM
struct: Now that I think, it also happens on Yavalath
WINWINWIN: attack the entity closest to my tower from as far as possible
MSmits: it does struct
struct: Game is decided in under how many moves?
struct: 6?
MSmits: if noone makes a mistake 61
MSmits: but bots make mistakes
MSmits: then its over fast
MSmits: yay my colleague said he would join the contest
MSmits: and invited his students as well
MSmits: hope we get a few
MSmits: I worry it may be too hard a game, but we'll see
struct: Time to see some dutch flags at the top
Craytek: please help me,i am beginner
struct: What do you need help with?
Craytek: как исправить код
Craytek: я не могу понять
AntiSquid: #ru
struct: Im also a beginner in russian sorry
Craytek: console . log ( nextCheckpointY + ' ' + nextCheckpointY + '50' );
Craytek: please help me
AntiSquid: at least he didn't link to a whale sound audio
struct: you need to change the first nextCheckpointY to nextCheckpointX
AntiSquid: you need to read
Craytek: I make it
Craytek: I make
Craytek: this
AntiSquid: good
Craytek: thank you very much
Cristal25: salut ca va??
Nhisoyr: Hi, could anyone help me optimizing a C# code for a challenge?
IAmNoob: hello
IAmNoob: i guess i can try
IAmNoob: i am a c++ dev
Nhisoyr: thank you :)
IAmNoob: can you give me a link?
Craytek: Кто может обьяснить:Где лучше разрабатывать?Я лично разроботчик JavaScript.
IAmNoob: пачему не
IAmNoob: but not now
Craytek: ok
metahom: Craytek, type /join #ru to talk on russian
Craytek: ок
AntiSquid: actually you can just click the #ru
AntiSquid: that's why i wrote in chat
IAmNoob: a bite*:) of help
IAmNoob: anyone
IAmNoob: my console
IAmNoob: just glitched
IAmNoob: in Coders Strike Back
IAmNoob: The game functions but i dont see anything else than a black screen
IAmNoob: but it updates and in the "Game information A...." it updates
Astrobytes: Yeah, just reload the page
IAmNoob: ok
IAmNoob: thx
Dan4Life: Hi
IAmNoob: hi
IAmNoob: can i help you?
IAmNoob: ok
WibuTapCode: Doanh
AntiSquid: hello new people
AntiSquid: get an avatar or you will anger Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i use the same code
IAmNoob: ?
IAmNoob: :)
AntiSquid: wasn't talking to you IAmNoob
IAmNoob: it was a joke
AntiSquid: ?
IAmNoob: not, ok
IAmNoob: sry
AntiSquid: was a joke too
IAmNoob: :)
MadKnight: stop joking in anger from people without avatars Automaton2000
Automaton2000: but what if i make it so much
AntiSquid: ?
AntiSquid: :)
MadKnight: u just created a new meme IAmNoob
IAmNoob: :)
AntiSquid: maybe you can also come up with fun avatar ideas for new people
IAmNoob: I?
AntiSquid: you earned a new avatar recommendation:
https://imgur.com/a/TJD4KRo
Craytek: who can help me in puzzle Skynet Revolution-episode 1
MadKnight: what's the problem ?
IAmNoob: AntiSquid thx :)
IAmNoob: i'll use it
Craytek: I don't understand what i will doing\
MadKnight: cut links
VincentYam: same here - is there anywhere I can look for the solution?
Craytek: ok
Craytek: help me
AntiSquid: yes but it requires an avatar VincentYam
VincentYam: What is an avatar...and how do you get one?
AntiSquid: a profile picture
AntiSquid: any image
VincentYam: oh thanks so much - so like once I put a profile image I can see the solution?
VincentYam: let me go get that now
IAmNoob: :)
reCurse: And he deleted his account. Well played
jacek: again?
MadKnight: anyone good with c# project references? i'm having trouble linking projects to each other
AntiSquid: maybe he should ask from his main next time about shared solutions?
reCurse: MadKnight what's the issue
MadKnight: i'm trying to use OpenTK in my xamarin project
MadKnight: the only way i found to add it to the project is from nuger, i found this OpenTK.NetStandard which works on 2.1
MadKnight: but by default it created project with 2.0 so i had to switch to 2.1
MadKnight: but now my android project doesn't wanna import 2.1 project
reCurse: Ok xamarin is off limits for me
reCurse: Maybe it only supports up to a certain version of .net standard
jacek: xamarin? for android?
MadKnight: i'm doing References (of android project) -> Add reference -> Projects -> (my NetCore 2.1 project)
MadKnight: then i Build
MadKnight: and it says it could not find netstandard2.0/MyProject.dll
MadKnight: why is it trying to find 2.0 ?
reCurse: Because I assume your android project is using 2.0?
MadKnight: project uses 2.1 now and builds into netstandard2.1/
MadKnight: can't find anything related to core version in android project settings
reCurse: Then maybe it's bound to 2.0
MadKnight: sad
PatrickMcGinnisII: default dir setting?
MadKnight: okay it says it maybe uses 2.1 since android 10
PatrickMcGinnisII: ok lets see if i can level up
MadKnight: oh, i managed to install an older version of openTK on 2,0
PatrickMcGinnisII: whoop, lvl 31
MadKnight: gj PatrickMcGinnisII
MadKnight: are u doing puzzles ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: was doing tulips and daisies, got bored...yup did a puzz
MadKnight: > Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\Community\MSBuild\Xamarin\Android\Xamarin.Android.Common.targets(1793,2): warning XA1009: OpenTK 0.9.3 is Obsolete. Please upgrade to OpenTK 1.0
MadKnight: No way to resolve conflict between "mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089" and "mscorlib, Version=2.0.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=7cec85d7bea7798e". Choosing "mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089" arbitrarily.
MadKnight: i just added this OpenTK.NetStandard
PatrickMcGinnisII: ouch, wish i could help
PatrickMcGinnisII: i gtg tho. G/L.
MadKnight: cya
MadKnight: Could not load type of field 'MainView.vertices' (7) due to: Could not load file or assembly 'OpenTK, Version=1.0.4.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=bad199fe84eb3df4' or one of its dependencies
wlesavo: wow, there is an 2048 based puzzle, ive wrote autoit bot for it, basically the first bot i tried to make, quite bad obviously. i think it would be a fun optim if one able to overcome turn limitation
eulerscheZahl: i thought about it as well
eulerscheZahl: but i see no way with the given limits
eulerscheZahl: you can create a minesweeper puzzle. and spam submit until you pass the validators
struct: How long are 2048 games usually?
eulerscheZahl: several thousand turns
struct: Limit for optimization and normal puzzles is 30 sec too?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: 600 turns
dbdr: offline it?
MadKnight: where does nuget install packages? where can i find the .dll ?
eulerscheZahl: part of the game is that you don't know where the spawns happen
MadKnight: u can make 3x3 2048 struct
eulerscheZahl: just that 2048 would be an impossible number then
MadKnight: yea
Scarfield: more like 64 then :)
dbdr: what if you had a seed and could predict the spawns? would it be trivial then?
eulerscheZahl: yeah, that's an option
eulerscheZahl: you can even still play it online. just ask for the next 10 actions or so
struct: 6k frames :D
eulerscheZahl: we've seem around 2k at xmas rush already
eulerscheZahl: code of the ring is limited to 10k
struct: o.o
jacek: 2048 eh? found interesting papers about it
eulerscheZahl: and should be easy to implement if we accept that we have to give a seed for spawning
Scarfield: some people apperently play 2048 to get as low a score as possible
eulerscheZahl: on the other hand the unknown spawn is part of the challenge. assume the worst and prepare for it
jacek: how would one go about bitboards for gomoku
jacek: 15x15 doesnt fit in int64 :c
dbdr: maybe we could specify that the spawn will be the worse possible :)
eulerscheZahl: i saw such a tetris game
eulerscheZahl: always tries to block you as good as possible
jacek: i saw tetris with only s and z
dbdr: evil tetris, sth name like that I think
dbdr: HATERIS
inoryy: isn't that just normal tetris
dbdr: https://qntm.org/hatetris
Tahir79: Hi
Tahir79: i have just joined this platform
Tahir79: and i would like to know more about this community can anyone help me out with this?
inoryy: what do you want to know
Tahir79: well, a few of the things but most importantly how can i improve my skills?
dbdr: practice!
fvla: man, hatetris really hates me, could only clear 5 lines
fvla: very nice profile picture, dbdr
dbdr: thanks :)
fvla: i completed prince of persia dos for the first time a couple weeks ago
reCurse: Thanks I hate it
fvla: these dos classics are really something
dbdr: it had the best animations ever made when it was released I think
dbdr: by one guy, using his little brother as a guide :D
fvla: yep
fvla: I also played Another World 20th Anniversary Edition
fvla: Another World used that same technique...with aliens in space
fvla: Even when they're short, they can be so good
fvla: ...I'm having trouble on Mars Lander Episode 2
Amrhossam: what is the number next to my lvl when i hover on my avatar
Amrhossam: 19341 ST
Amrhossam: what does that mean
fvla: It means you're higher ranked than 19,340 other codingamers
fvla: ah, i finally solved mars lander episode 2
struct: it means he is lower ranked doesnt it :thinking:
LelouchVC2: Nah, 1st place sucks
607: как дела, вафлы ?
Uljahn: wow rude
AntiSquid: 607 click #ru and chat there in russian, thanks
inoryy: why would you do that to us, AntiSquid
Uljahn: :imp:
AntiSquid: who is us and do what?
Uljahn: US of ru
LelouchVC2: United States of Russia
AntiSquid: what have i done?
jacek: cccp?
inoryy: send some spammer kid to ru
AntiSquid: he's new and just wants to make friends
LelouchVC2: AntiSquid is my friend? :o
AntiSquid: not what i said
LelouchVC2: A man can dream
LelouchVC2: Python and their constant 1 liners ;-;
AntiSquid: store your answers locally so you have them ready for next time
struct: Isn't that cheating?
AntiSquid: reusing your answers?
AntiSquid: actually what are you on about? clash is filled with people who submit perfect answer in under 10 seconds :/
Uljahn: would you prefer abusing clashes instead of playing csb, Automaton2000?
Automaton2000: can you please share your code
Astrobytes: Well, he was on topic at least
Astrobytes: (Auto. 2000 that is)
AntiSquid: he asked nicely :p
Astrobytes: JBM I cannot unsee, or indead un-hear, that 'performance'. I should stay out of #fr, really
JBM: lol
Astrobytes: *indeed
JBM: that was the point
JBM: le cringe
Astrobytes: Beyond le cringe
JBM: truly painful
JBM: poor girl
Astrobytes: Excruciating
AntiSquid: ok not gonna watch then, i wanna sleep well tonight
JBM: drink more
Astrobytes: SQuido's teetotal
JBM: well... stay far from youtube links then
Astrobytes: Haha
Astrobytes: How the hell did you find that one anyway JBM?
JBM: it's a long story
Astrobytes: I see
JBM: it started this afternoon with dbdr telling his bot intently crashed when his opponent SWAPped at Twixt
JBM: which got me to tell i was going to write a swap-then-wait bot
JBM: when i came back from whatever, he'd fixed that
JBM: so i whined
JBM: with lyrics that rhymed with a well-known french tune
JBM: that inspired me to start working on an actual song
JBM: and we got to exchange our best recollections of programming-oriented performances
JBM: the all-time favorite "write in go" (take the fall 2014 edition and no other)
JBM: the "god wrote in lisp"
JBM: and then... the F flat performance was part of the fall 2019 playlist
Astrobytes: Alright, very well explained
JBM: well it *is* a long story
Astrobytes: Kinda wish I'd been around in #fr for that earlier
JBM: lol
**Astrobytes grabs beer and opens youtube
JBM: i had to shut the vocals, i can't concentrate on code when i'm laughing because of the parody lyrics
**Illedan is wondering what is worth watching on youtube
JBM: the "write in go" one is really very good, if you haven't seen it yet
JBM: that presentation in the background...
Astrobytes: I shall check it out
JBM: apart from that, i've got 12 hours of haskell coding to suggest :P
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: Leave me alone, I'm still only FP-curious
JBM: gotta start somewhere
JBM: as far as it may
Astrobytes: the interlude bit is the best
LelouchVC2: Prompt: Code this complex math equation
LelouchVC2: Python Programmers: Oh, there's a function for that
JBM: can't leave complex stuff to the user in python!
LelouchVC2: </3
Astrobytes: :fire:
LelouchVC2: Racist jokes in style yet?
Astrobytes: Eh?
LelouchVC2: Guess not
BenjaminUrquhart: :thinking:
ztonaz: no one on clash of codes?
KiwiTae: ztonaz | let MadKnight introduce u to bot programming
ztonaz: ?
LelouchVC2: This site is mostly for programming bots
LelouchVC2: clashes seem to be a side thing
MarwariTheHorse: In which 10% of competitors just paste code they already wrote :expressionless:
LelouchVC2: I've never actually gotten the same prompt twice
LelouchVC2: Maybe I haven't played enough
LelouchVC2: getting tired of passing all the tests and getting less than 100% when I submit :)
BenjaminUrquhart: have you tried
BenjaminUrquhart: um
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
LelouchVC2: Nah, I haven't tried
yassineH: quick javascript question..
yassineH: it the pipeline operator not included in codingame??? bc i cant seem to make it work...
yassineH: |> is the pipeline operator
yassineH: nevermind, it says "No support" for all browsers in MDN
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