thibpat: hello! I'm continuing to improve my negamax implementation for the Twixt-PP challenge (last week's challenge of the week): https://twitch.tv/thibpat
LoGos: I didn't realize draw was possible in Bandas D:
LoGos: for anyone interested:
https://www.codingame.com/replay/455470077
Quidome: nice :) LoGos
HunnyBear: sigh. really wish CL was an option
sahilbansal17: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/12030198d23ef57c177c0ddc9d4cc7b256789fc
sahilbansal17: Anyone wants to join, be quick!
sahilbansal17: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/12030261ad1f88fcb0a71a0967d92daa8351cb0
Uljahn: stop spamming
CODE.EXE: Yeah
sobuksruk: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1203042a2819917addcb2c1c975e017c6a06bd4
AntiSquid: stop posting clash of code link in chat or i start banning
dbdr: hey Quidome!
dbdr: looks like you are progressing :)
CoderHarshu: Hello
Illedan: Hi
WINWINWIN: Hey coderHarshu
mark7: Hi
Quidome: No progression at all dbdr, only a resubmit from the old version after a broken one :(
dbdr: oh OK
Adnmaster: im trying horse racing duals it passes all of them except one and i tested it myself there is nothing wrong can someone pls help
CoderHarshu: New in competitive programming! any suggestions for beginners ?
Adnmaster: you can try python
Adnmaster: and look up hackerrank in google
CoderHarshu: i have done Python basics
Adnmaster: oh
Adnmaster: they ask hard quest,ons in code of clash
CoderHarshu: and solving problems at Hackerearth and Hackerrank
Adnmaster: you can try code royale, if thats too hard, you can try code golf
CoderHarshu: i am able to solve the problem but the i take too much time!
Adnmaster: then you have to go into a lot of clash of cde battles until you get faster
WINWINWIN: CoderHarshu, I`m a beginner too, found it best to start with bot programming CSB
CoderHarshu: Whats that ? WINWINWINWIN
WINWINWIN: Bot programming: coders strike back
WINWINWIN: and its just 3 WIN s :D
CoderHarshu: ok bro
MSmits: better yet, type win + tab
MSmits: this is a functionality to calculate the optimal number of wins
CoderHarshu: thats awsome thanks buddy MSmits
MSmits: you're welcome :P
WINWINWIN: :D Msmits
CoderHarshu: WINWINWIN
CoderHarshu: :grinning:
dbdr: wow, submits seem slow right now
mark7: Of which contest? is there a contest going on?
AntiSquid: no
dbdr: in multis
AntiSquid: what multi are you playing now dbdr?
dbdr: Tulips
eulerscheZahl: some of us aren't competing for prizes it seems
eulerscheZahl: meanwhile i still try to win that $0 :P
darkhorse64: nor for xp
AntiSquid: if you win it, how do you verify if they gave you the money euler ?
eulerscheZahl: i'll ask about payment process in the forum
MSmits: this means re curse cant compete you know, Canada has an overly strict gambling law.. cash prizes are a big no no
MSmits: unless they cleared it with the government
dbdr: as if it was luck...
MSmits: darkhorse64 look at my last cg bench. Onitama is crazy rps
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d42b3f7f-247e-4161-a5ba-b50178abbd91
MSmits: poor tric trac if i submit this :P
Salted: MSmits, that's not at all true. I've won competitions here in Canada that pay cash prices.
dbdr: opponent selection is random?
MSmits: yeah government sanctioned afaik, i was told this
eulerscheZahl: impressive winrate
dbdr: not the same number of matches...
MSmits: yeah it's random
Salted: I live in Canada and can tell you it's not true
MSmits: ok
LoGos: MSmits did you have any problems with CGBenchmark recently?
MSmits: no, but i would like to know how to force equal match count in cg bench
MSmits: do you know how dbdr?
dbdr: yes, edit the source ;)
MSmits: hah nvm, i am not compiling anything java
dbdr: or wrirte a similar tool yourself, it's not very hard
MSmits: not for you :)
dbdr: write it in python
MSmits: I'm not that good at that sort of thing
dbdr: look at eulerscheZahl's script for logging in and playing a match
MSmits: But i can if I need to i suppose
dbdr: that's about 10 lines of python
Salted: The best part about contests in Canada is you pay no taxes on any winnings. The prize provider must pay the taxes and you get the full amount.
MSmits: yeah euler showed me before
dbdr: the rest is pretty simple logic
MSmits: thats nice Salted
eulerscheZahl: python :rocket:
dbdr: go through the opponents, add up the results
MSmits: I just wrote a minesweeper bot in python as par t of an assignment
eulerscheZahl: what's the winrate?
eulerscheZahl: as sometimes you can't be sure
MSmits: 80%, the first moves aren't guaranteed
MSmits: so you might click on a bomb
MSmits: first move
eulerscheZahl: even end moves sometimes
MSmits: yes, sometimes
MSmits: but very rarely in this case
dbdr: you can get 100% winrate at minesweeper
MSmits: the assignment asked us to also take into account subsets
Salted: MSmits, the first move should always be save in minesweeper. It only computes the board after the first move.
MSmits: i know Salted
Salted: safe*
dbdr: just make your bot read the memory of the referee to know where the bombs are
MSmits: but this is a ghetto minesweeper
MSmits: not full implementation like the microsoft version
MSmits: I only wrote the bot, not the game
eulerscheZahl: we need a minesweeper on CG
eulerscheZahl: and spam submit till you pass
MSmits: would be fun
MSmits: is there a puzzle?
eulerscheZahl: yes
MSmits: minesweeper puzzle?
MSmits: ah cool
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/minesweeper
darkhorse64: MSmits: this version is not yet submitted ? I have made some tiny improvements, mostly reliability. It shows a bit in the leaderboard. trictrac is now my preferred victim
eulerscheZahl: but not an interactive one
ZarthaxX: test your python code now smito lol
MSmits: have to convert a lot of it
MSmits: not feeling the urge atm, but its cool
LoGos: how do tools like CGBench work? Do they launch codingame in headless mode and play in ide?
WINWINWIN: Do you top coders ever use python?
MSmits: LoGos yeah
darkhorse64: Always C++, except for golf
MSmits: WINWINWIN also yeah, not me, but some
eulerscheZahl: just sending the requests
MSmits: sometimes fast coding is more important than fast code
MSmits: then python is great
eulerscheZahl: bit REST API for the CG website, makes it easy to script
eulerscheZahl: big*
Salted: I always wonder how much of a code library the top people draw from. They always code in the same thing for every competition.
LoGos: MSmits thanks. CGB is not working for me so it seems like I need to write similar script.
MSmits: well you can't use separate files, so you copy paste a lot of old code
MSmits: but it depends on the game. If it is a fairly simple game you can just copy paste a minimax or mcts and adjust it
MSmits: LoGos which version?
MSmits: also, i had some weird errors with cg bench too
MSmits: if you for example, work in VS and just try to use the C++ file from there and load it in CG bench it may bug out because of the encoding
MSmits: I have to make a new c++ text file, copy the whole bot into it, then run cg bench
LoGos: MSits the latest one. I'm getting NullPointerException just after retrieving cookies and sesion info. It happens both on Linux and Windows. I also created brand new account to test but the same thing happens
MSmits: very likely your file is just set up wrong
MSmits: your json
MSmits: careful sharing this btw
MSmits: because of accoutn info. Let me share mine
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/0c1f1870-d848-4f1f-bad4-a3cdd29451f3
dbdr: NullPointerException should not happen regardless of your config
dbdr: report a bug :)
MSmits: might be older version of cg bench ?
dbdr: nice password MSmits ;)
MSmits: yes, just enter, no characters
MSmits: noone will guess this
LoGos: thanks MSmits! dbdr ok, will do if it realy is a bug
dbdr: NPE is a bug, no question
RoboStac: msmits - you can have the same matches against each opponent by having one opponent and multiple code sections (they can all be the same file). It does give you separate reports per opponent / play all against opponent 1 before moving on though
MSmits: ahh thanks RoboStac
dbdr: 306 results found for «Score - Computing» in CSB
dbdr: I guess that's a promotion wave
dbdr: yeah, almost all are rank 27K and 28K
dbdr: oh, 356 now, growing :(
LoGos: MSmits its working now :grinning:
Thanks! Looks like the yaml file is the problem. dbdr I'll send report
jslo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/09218486-0977-44c4-9238-a844591c62ed
jslo: am i doing something stupid here
jslo: am i doing something dumb here
jslo: ?
jslo: it's the Defibrillator problem
jslo: it's pretty easy
jslo: not sure what's wrong
RoboStac: why are you trying to read a file (and from a windows file path)?
FlashLoremIpsumFromHell_6454: hello
MSmits: I also know jslo is upstairs
MSmits: wife quarantined you huh
RoboStac: also when using java you have to call your class Solution
eulerscheZahl: RIP CSB, classic :D
dbdr: RIP CG for 2 hours
IAmNoob: Why?
dbdr: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back/leaderboard?column=SCORE&value=INPROGRESS
eulerscheZahl: play topcoder
eulerscheZahl: siman is playing too
dbdr: it's OK, I can play CG offline :)
IAmNoob: Are you german?
eulerscheZahl: he's 1st right now
IAmNoob: euler zahl?
eulerscheZahl: yes, i am german
IAmNoob: :)
JBM: how on earth did you guess
ryuzaki22: m form india plez teach me how to put logic
IAmNoob: Zahl
IAmNoob: on ger,man means number
dbdr: the toad
JBM: impressive
eulerscheZahl: your profile says that you are from Romania but attend a german school
IAmNoob: german*
JBM: you won't be nood for long
IAmNoob: Born in romania
JBM: *noob
IAmNoob: i will:)
dbdr: noob fail JBM :D
IAmNoob: :)
JBM: indeed dbdr :->
IAmNoob: :P
JBM: nood boom
eulerscheZahl: nood sounds like something that i would spell nude
JBM: how unfoog
dbdr: nood soup
JBM: shit, site's down by now :(
dbdr: what did you want to do?
jslo: @roboStac i'll transfer it over to codinGame after i get done writing it in netbeans
IAmNoob: Hate this
IAmNoob: i was making a problem
IAmNoob: and site stopped
IAmNoob: all gone
jslo: i don't like writing the code online lol
jslo: that's why i write the solutions local
IAmNoob: I was designing a problem
IAmNoob: Making tests and so on
IAmNoob: no solving
jslo: rip
IAmNoob: :rage:
jslo: your
IAmNoob: Yes:(
jslo: problem
jslo: get bodied
IAmNoob: :()
jslo: :laughing:
IAmNoob: :(
jslo: help me noob
IAmNoob: With?
jslo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d8ac3716-b14f-49b3-9e6a-52dbe7232e90
AntiSquid: submits are slow, servers burning i guess dbdr
jslo: it's not giving me correct distances
jslo: it's easy
jslo: i must've done something dumb
jslo: i'll transfer it over to the server when i'm done
jslo: that's why i'm using a file
AntiSquid: get some avatars guys, you look like a bunch of new accounts that just came in to spam emotes, was about to ban a few :/
jslo: don't ban me
AntiSquid: i won't
jslo: :open_mouth:
IAmNoob: :)
jslo: :sob:
wlesavo: AntiSquid oh, i was worried it is just me
eulerscheZahl: but don't ban JBM :scream:
AntiSquid: get avatars to avoid the confusion is all i am saying
AntiSquid: JBM easier to avoid banning higher level
eulerscheZahl: so you check the user level before ban?
JBM: what did I do *this* time?
eulerscheZahl: not set an avatar
JBM: that's not illegal
AntiSquid: yes, doubt anyone makes new account copies 5 million puzzles and then spams chat, i check both
jslo: i got one
eulerscheZahl: a skeleton
jslo: skullOmania
IAmNoob: You are like an Admin?
jslo: better recognize
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: just chat mod
jslo: :muscle:
IAmNoob: :)
AntiSquid: admins are the staff
jslo: noob, you see any issues
Adnmaster: so youre like the admin of the chat?
AntiSquid: no
jslo: admin of the admin of the chat?
AntiSquid: :/
wlesavo: AntiAdmin
jslo: lol
jslo: AntiSquid != admin
JBM: defined by what he's not
MadKnight: NotSoMuchOfAnAdmin
AntiSquid: i just can't administrate shit here
IAmNoob: jslo I am sorry I dont see any issues, I dont know Java but i loocked at Pythegorean Throem
MadKnight: NotSoMuchOfAnAdminSquid
IAmNoob: and i havent seen problems
jslo: cool
jslo: it's a super easy program
jslo: not sure why i'm getting the issue
AntiSquid: if i was a chat admin i could demote madao to a regular user for example
jslo: i'll use a different forumla
IAmNoob: Youre formula is good
IAmNoob: try at Math.cos
jslo: antiSquid.demoteAbility = flase
jslo: false
IAmNoob: to multiply with -1
jslo: whoops i messed up that joke
IAmNoob: :)
jslo: ok
jslo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/42bdb5e1-6e81-4890-a77e-47ad80c127d8
jslo: see
jslo: it looks good
jslo: that's the debug sutff
IAmNoob: works?
jslo: stuff
jslo: nah
IAmNoob: :(
jslo: same answer
jslo: ah i'll figure it out
jslo: lemme use a different formula
Adnmaster: is anyone here 12 years old?
jslo: wtf
jslo: creep
AntiSquid: me
Adnmaster: hehe
jslo: lol
IAmNoob: me 13
jslo: i'm dead
jslo: i'm 9
IAmNoob: :)
IAmNoob: sure
IAmNoob: i am 5
jslo: I'm just a genius
jslo: lol
jslo: thanks noob
jslo: for taking a look
jslo: have a nice day
AntiSquid: 12 mars years old
IAmNoob: Thx
jslo: haha
jslo: nerds
IAmNoob: yo u too
jslo: 4 sho
IAmNoob: Ready finaly with the exercite]
IAmNoob: I go play some clash's :)
IAmNoob: I have a question
IAmNoob: can you see youre problems in a clash?
AntiSquid: i am not a problem in clash
IAmNoob: ?
IAmNoob: what do you mean
IAmNoob: I dont understand
AntiSquid: your*
IAmNoob: I have now avatar
IAmNoob: But for a reason dont see it
jslo: i figured it out
jslo: lol
jslo: i made a typo
IAmNoob: can i see it now?
jslo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2d313246-e6ec-4743-9d57-1aba5c09ddbd
jslo: it's fine now
IAmNoob: its preaty the same
jslo: yeah it was one typo
jslo: i put lat where i should've put lon
jslo: RIP
jslo: i had it done like 30 minutes ago
jslo: fm
dbdr: jacek, working on your uTTT?
jacek: just trying lucky resubmit
jacek: but i had some weird timeouts a while ago
dbdr: :D
dbdr: oh nice, tomatoes has a rust bot at #28
dbdr: feels strange to see 6 rust bots in legend, and none is mine
wlesavo: i gave an honest try to get uttt legend in python
dbdr: that's a challenge!
dbdr: there is one
struct: how far did you get?
struct: one with 0.03 score :p
wlesavo: maybe ill come back to it, i had 0 depth eval on ~280 gold, but failed to improve it, other algos i tried got screwed on performance
MSmits: you kinda need mcts or similar
dbdr: the python bot in legend prints as a command "GOAL LEVEL 30"
wlesavo: i know i need that, but couldn't make it work on reasonably ok depth
struct: You can try c++ :)
struct: or rust
MSmits: I dont think python can make legend
MSmits: whats in there has not been promoted in python i am guessing
dbdr: well, someone did
MSmits: cant you change language?
dbdr: or they changed language afterwards?
struct: How do you know db?
struct: They can change yeah
struct: There is also D on legend
struct: also broken bot
wlesavo: lol
dbdr: they certainly didn't get to legend by printing "GOAL LEVEL 30" :D
MSmits: marchete has the most impressive language with an inferior performance language
AntiSquid: pro D players
MSmits: impressive rank that is
MSmits: not easy to get that high in C#
AntiSquid: spanish?
MSmits: haha
dbdr: :D
dbdr: Dutch is harder I think
MSmits: dbdr pretty nice too in java
dbdr: with minimax
MSmits: though you should translate it to rust
wlesavo: i dunno, my 0 depth eval version did quite well for like 5ms time spent, that gave me hope
dbdr: do we know what Marchete uses?
MSmits: prolly mcts
AntiSquid: hungarian is probably the hardest in europe, along with finnish
dbdr: I should yes. you're not afraid? ;)
AntiSquid: to learn the language? kinda
MSmits: hmm
MSmits: not sure dbdr, i dont know how good you are at these things, you dont try very often
dbdr: facing your fears is a often a good idea AntiSquid ;)
AntiSquid: then i will learn the chinese alphabet
dbdr: I tried pretty hard at uTTT, I was even first at one point, even with Java, which obvously does not help
dbdr: but rust will be better for sure, and I learnt a lot since too
MSmits: I am really really interested in your eval though
MSmits: I am thinking of trying an early playout termination version for uttt
MSmits: just out of interest
MSmits: because it works so well in other games
ELPADRE: guys thor exercise is giving me a headache
MSmits: then you're holding the hammer wrong
MSmits: you'll get lots of accidents that way
wlesavo: dbdr how long ago that was?
dbdr: I love this about CG
ELPADRE: can't get the angles ?
AntiSquid: finally above rank 500 in UTG, damn hate this game ... and my bugged bot
dbdr: wlesavo I wrote my uTTT bot in Java 2 years ago wlesavo
ELPADRE: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/cd5e89c5-b094-443d-9604-a233bcfb097e
MSmits: ELPADRE you have to track positions yourself
MSmits: you know how you moved
AntiSquid: why do yo uneed ankles in thor puzzle?
AntiSquid: angles *
MSmits: you only get initial position
MSmits: then you need to update it yourself
wlesavo: dbdr and how long ago you started learning rust?
coednoob: i'm trying to code a neural network algorithm for flappy bird because i'm bored :laughing:
dbdr: (I had to resubmit it 6 month ago to fix a timeout issue after a CG update, but no change otherwise)
MSmits: coednoob use NEAT framework
dbdr: 1.3 years :)
AntiSquid: codenoob do one for oware abapa
eulerscheZahl: russian AI cup, wasn't it?
dbdr: in January, for RAIC last year
eulerscheZahl: codeball
dbdr: xactly
dbdr: was one month, and I cared less about it than a CG one, so a good occasion to try something new
jrke: hey anyone of you know how to code in kali linux
MSmits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxFDaIOHsE coednoob
dbdr: I don't regret it :)
AntiSquid: "wlesavo I wrote my uTTT bot in Java 2 years ago wlesavo" you wrote wlesavo twice (sorry for nitpicking)
eulerscheZahl: jrke not a question of the operating system.
what language do you want to use?
wlesavo: AntiSquid you wrote wlesavo 3 times
eulerscheZahl: install a compiler/interpreter for it and start coding
eulerscheZahl: maybe an IDE too
MSmits: lol
dbdr: lol wlesavo :D
eulerscheZahl: wlesavo
AntiSquid: lol wlesavo
wlesavo: lol
wlesavo: (for symmetry)
coednoob: omg i clicked on the link and it was so loud! didn't know my anime music was up so high :laughing:
AntiSquid: your natural pattern matching is quite good
dbdr: true, lol is a palindrome wlesavo :)
AntiSquid: coednoob beware the anime haters in this chat, but don't worry too much we need more good people like you
jacek: huh
coednoob: if there are any anime haters i will use my death note and vanquish them.
MSmits: weebs
coednoob: what
MSmits: i dunno, its a new word i learned
AntiSquid: it's mainly MSmits and AutomatonNN that hate anime
coednoob: oh i thought you called my name.
AutomatonNN: { ,JulL anyone else has a problem with the list of "the last test" then when you get confused you w
MSmits: no no, AntiSquid keeps sharing anime stuff and then I call him a weeb. It's a thing
AntiSquid: but weeb stands for wannabe ...
MSmits: really?
MSmits: it's not anime related?
coednoob: no it stands for weaboo
MSmits: o
AntiSquid: i don't want to be jap lol
AntiSquid: and i am not obsessed with their culture
MSmits: except marrying anime dolls
coednoob: .
AntiSquid: in fact i don't even want to live there as a regular citizen
coednoob: why dolls.
MSmits: they do that
coednoob: why not body pillows.
MSmits: hmm not sure
MSmits: ask AntiSquid
AntiSquid: maybe if i was rich, but even then there are better places
MSmits: Sweden?
AntiSquid: MSmits https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/weeb/
MSmits: ahh ok
AntiSquid: i am not even an otaku
MSmits: I will call you Sweeb then
MSmits: you wish you were Swedish
coednoob: wait.
coednoob: squid
coednoob: you remind me of squidward,which i remembered something really weird about spongebob.
coednoob: wanna hear it :grinning:
AntiSquid: i don't watch spongebob
MSmits: coednoob no spoilers
MSmits: AntiSquid hasn't watched it yet
coednoob: its not spoilers
coednoob: the main characters in spongebob represent the seven deadly sins.
coednoob: and in the qanime
coednoob: dammit.
AntiSquid: coednoob https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/03/02/motorcycle-squid-on-the-rise-join-the-anti-squid-movement/
coednoob: i mean the bible kind.
coednoob: imma change my background real quick
MSmits: spongebob is in the bible?
coednoob: no let me explain
AntiSquid: spongebob memes are everywhere and they reference everything
AntiSquid: what's the appeal ?
MSmits: if you learn spongebob, you learn everything
coednoob: the seven deadly sins are sloth,envy,lust,greed,gluttony,wrath,and pride
coednoob: patrick is sloth
coednoob: plankton is envy
eulerscheZahl: crabs = greed
AntiSquid: i don't know the characters :/
coednoob: spongebob is lust
AntiSquid: i just know the sponge
coednoob: mr.crabs is greed
MSmits: coednoob, I am pretty sure you can apply similar logic to the smurfs. Maybe you can do a smurf version for AntiSquid
coednoob: um.
coednoob: i can do anime version.
MSmits: smurfs is animated
MSmits: good enough
coednoob: dont you.
coednoob: ever.
coednoob: say.
coednoob: that.
struct: What should I change on UI
struct: https://i.imgur.com/MW2Dqz1.png
AntiSquid: tell MSmits to change avatar @coednoob https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/b2/56/8db2562e1f70531eb33eae21f217504e.png
coednoob: ok
coednoob: change it to this
coednoob: https://wallpaperaccess.com/full/945400.jpg
AntiSquid: why not just one character?
coednoob: why one when you can have all.
coednoob: i have the power of UA
coednoob: with this picture.
AntiSquid: hey the next contest which starts on the 7th of May is probably sponsored by bandai namco
MSmits: why?
coednoob: who just straight up forgot to sleep last night.
MSmits: i mean how do you know
coednoob: if yes raise your hand
AntiSquid: guessing
MSmits: mmh
coednoob: :raising_hand:
MSmits: maybe sponsed by the bill & melinda gates foundation to stop corona spread
struct: well they own the rights to pacman
struct: ITs anniversary
MSmits: I didn't sleep much last night, wanted to find a bug in my minesweeper
coednoob: and funeral is a life graduation.
AntiSquid: they have a promo, pacman 2 championship edition is free to download on steam
AntiSquid: they have a contest running around the same time (well before cg contest starts)
MSmits: hmm
coednoob: you holding you breath is just a life timer.when you breath it resets.
coednoob: and also.
MSmits: not jumping off a bridge is a life timer also, every time you decide not to, it resets
coednoob: air could have the life immunity but we grow immune to that as we get older.and them get fully immune and die,
eulerscheZahl: you submitted onitama at 4am MSmits. your sleep cycle is so completely broken :D
MSmits: heh, well my wife is sick (not corona) so that got me a bit more irregular. But I am always irregular when I am not teaching
MSmits: it's 2 week may vacation
coednoob: damn.
eulerscheZahl: will schools open again after that?
coednoob: no
coednoob: next year.
MSmits: well they will open the way they were before, teaching by google meet
eulerscheZahl: was for MSmits
eulerscheZahl: i see
coednoob: my school is dumb.
MSmits: but the exam candidates get to do some final tests (not the actual national exam). To get a fair chance at getting their diploma
eulerscheZahl: here in germany school slowly starts again
coednoob: they gave a code genius an online assignment.
MSmits: yea they do here also, but just primary schools
AntiSquid: i don't follow the news but i hear there are less covid patients
coednoob: no
AntiSquid: yes
MSmits: AntiSquid it's different in each country
MSmits: in some places they are smart and in other places they are stupid. But regardless of brains, it may go away with better weather and come back again later
AntiSquid: a second wave would be annoying though
MSmits: or a third
AntiSquid: or a 3rd / 4th / whatever
MSmits: yes
MSmits: it will happen according to most scientists
coednoob: 3,090,844 total
coednoob: a second wave.
MSmits: and it will be better and worse. better because some will have immunity, worse because it will come together with the flu
eulerscheZahl: we are 0.5% done already
AntiSquid: until we are all immune like bats?
coednoob: its not bats
TheNoLifeKing: y'all, is codingame failing? i can't play the test cases
coednoob: its from a research facility is Wuhan.
MSmits: conspiracy theory... not factual
AntiSquid: ya probably
coednoob: they conduct experiments with viruses like that
AnielloBaldi: Hi there
AntiSquid: nothing to do with conspiracies lol
coednoob: a bat could have easily flew in and out.
MSmits: viruses came out of those wildlife markets before. It's well documented
coednoob: spread it to its family
AntiSquid: someone spilled a bucket, floor got wet, that's not a conspiracy
coednoob: one bat gets eaten by a snake.
coednoob: chinese people eat snakes.
coednoob: thats how it started.
coednoob: thats what i think at least.
MSmits: the world doesn't work that way. You can't just pick an explanation on the basis of it sounding good.
dbdr: you can. it just does not make it true ;)
MSmits: if you're going against the general consensus explanation, you better have some data to prove it
MSmits: right dbdr
AntiSquid: yes must synchronize with the crowd and homogenize thoughts
MSmits: no need, you can do your own research
eulerscheZahl: i heard you can get quite far without using actual data
MSmits: but if you dont, you need to trust scientists
eulerscheZahl: even become president
coednoob: MoNkEy SoCkS
coednoob: i mean banana,my autocorrect is weird.
AntiSquid: ok then UK should aim for herd immunity
coednoob: there is a person who could possibly contain immunity from viruses and age.
coednoob: a scientist injected himself with 3.5 million year old bacteria,which usually bacteria would easily die out,but this one was immune,so it would be impossible for them to get it.
MSmits: if vaccines and medicines dont exist, then herd immunity is all you have. Which includes of course protecting the weak and only letting the people who can handle it get sich
MSmits: sick that is... also do this slowly over time because of hospital capacity
MSmits: also known as social distancing...which is what most countries have been doing
AntiSquid: ah you don't know the background story
coednoob: wanna see something cool.
AntiSquid: it was more about "lockdown bad, it prevents herd immunity" basically
MSmits: the background is probably Boris Johnson saying and doing stupid sht?
AntiSquid: it was a scientist MSmits
MSmits: ahh ok
coednoob: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/342f1865-fb4d-4bbc-88e0-c9e6bea70b5a
MSmits: methinks he left one variable out of the equation with his statements
MSmits: also don't trust any one scientist. Trust scientific consensus.It's not perfect but better than trusting a random scientist and way better than trusting any old conspiracy
coednoob: thats only a fragment of it
AntiSquid: there's a new model of how the moon is formed, before it's discovery you must believe the one model to be true, the next day you must align your belief
AntiSquid: was formed *
coednoob: wait what.
coednoob: what did i miss...
AntiSquid: draw your own conclusions
MSmits: AntiSquid for this we only have computer models. There are several ways it could have happened and all we can say is that some ways are more likely than others. There is very little actual evidence
MSmits: this is because the earth was mostly molten when it happened
AntiSquid: ya but that one computer model was most accurate when it was discovered
MSmits: Not all science is the same, there are things we are sure of and things that are just likely and consistent with what we know
dbdr: never sure 100%
coednoob: https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.35262911.5798/flat,750x1000,075,f.u3.jpg
MSmits: well sure as in we did the same experiment a million times with the same result each time
dbdr: could be luck ;)
MSmits: but 100% is a weird thing
MSmits: sure
coednoob: ok lets drop the scientific stuff i havent slept in 5 days and i am losing brain cells.
MSmits: let's say we are sure within floating point accuracy limits
dbdr: could be the laws of physics change very very slowly and we haven't been around long enough to notice it
AntiSquid: if you do the same thing multiple times and expect different results, then what does that say?
coednoob: did you see the link i put
MSmits: then we can still be sure about what the physics is like now
MSmits: also that is a possibility some people put into their models :)
dbdr: yes. within boundaries. like newtonian physics was pretty sure
AntiSquid: ok nvm, derailing, point was draw your own conclusions ... don't have to choose between herd mentality and random fantasies
MSmits: within the realm of experimentation newtonian physics was very accurate
MSmits: and still is i guess
dbdr: exactly
MSmits: you always need to be careful about your claims in science
MSmits: AntiSquid I think everyone agrees with your point :P
coednoob: ok no more science.
MSmits: except coednoob
AntiSquid: mesentery has a consciousness of its own -
MSmits: whats that
dbdr: yes, that's actually a problem in public debate. a scientist will be very careful what they say. an anti-science will just say whatever sounds good to them
dbdr: it gives them an advantage
MSmits: yup
coednoob: https://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2687124-7.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600
coednoob: look at that.
dbdr: especially in a short time span
coednoob: what.
coednoob: you talking short spans.
coednoob: nothing is shorter than my attention span ..
dbdr: why do you press play if it's on repeat?
coednoob: what.
AntiSquid: restart the song 10 seconds in ?
coednoob: what.
coednoob: naruto is gay.
coednoob: why does nobody have anything to say about that..
coednoob: do you agree?
MSmits: you're starting to morph into a troll
Uljahn: Automaton2000: kick the noob
Automaton2000: and there is no real reason
dbdr: bc nobody cares
coednoob: what
coednoob: im talking facts.naruto kissed sasuke.
MSmits: careful, AntiSquid is a mod
ZarthaxX: MSmits surprised you gave talk to him from the start
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
MSmits: yeah, i am tired
MSmits: I respond more to trolls when I am tired
ZarthaxX: he already showed as one
ZarthaxX: ah i see
ZarthaxX: recreate your brain ;)
coednoob: who
coednoob: what.
MSmits: I'll go to bed early
dbdr: follow the toad
MSmits: good idea
coednoob: what toad.
AntiSquid: coednoob you're spamming a lot the what, i get it you are excited and you like the chat, but please be considerate of others
coednoob: ok
Uljahn: also raise up your level, do more puzzles, because lvl3 is for trolls
coednoob: well im too busy watching anime.
coednoob: ok fine ill do more puzzles
jacek: or invite toads to clash
coednoob: ok please explain what or who toad is im super confused
AntiSquid: he is trying to teach you how to troll on codingame in a more obscure way
coednoob: why would i waste time trolling,the only reason im here is because i want to talk to people.
coednoob: and i dont feel like sticking 500 toothpicks into a Styrofoam cup.
coednoob: ok imma go.bye
jacek: oO
MSmits: troll's just want love
YannT: deploy patented teacher's authoritah
YannT: (shit last message was more than half an hour ago :o )
aCat: you, you have reflexes ;p
aCat: chat is surprisingly quiet
YannT: not that surprising, there's no contest going on :p
aCat: bleh, yesterday was lots of weird talks
struct: I want to change the UI, anyone has any suggestions?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/MW2Dqz1.png
aCat: Its for Yavalath?
struct: Yinsh
aCat: damn, I'm not up to date
AntiSquid: what do you want to change it to and what's wrong with the current UI ?
struct: I dont think its appealing at all
AntiSquid: it's not :thinking:
Astrobytes: Well change it to something appealing
struct: The ui is different from their board, because I think its very hard to understand it
struct: https://www.theboardgamefamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Yinsh-board.jpg
AntiSquid: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcambolbro.com%2Fgames%2Fyavalath%2Fyavalath-deluxe-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcambolbro.com%2Fgames%2Fyavalath%2F&tbnid=ccApmGP0gF268M&vet=12ahUKEwjTjqnI94vpAhUC8xoKHfn3DSQQMygFegUIARDZAQ..i&docid=tNo_18tbWDIZZM&w=640&h=480&q=yavalath&client=firefox-b-d&ved=2ahUKEwjTjqnI94vpAhUC8xoKHfn3DSQQMygFegUIARDZAQ i like this color better
AntiSquid: lol oops
aCat: :D
Astrobytes: URL of the year
Astrobytes: I like the original board struct, but I'm weird
struct: I like it too,.but might be a bit harder to understand
c0cainee: :tangerine:
BloodyTurtles: when did they change the ide to monaco?
Astrobytes: Monday
stacked: i prefer text editor better
Astrobytes: I sometimes use the CG IDE for puzzles or small edits, otherwise I use VS. The change to monaco is very welcome regardless.
JBM: all i noticed is that now i sometimes have to press enter twice instead of once to go to the next line
JBM: because braindead autocomplete
JBM: i hate it already
Astrobytes: I don't care for the autocomplete but I like the highlighting and zoom
Astrobytes: And the minimap
angelcabrera: hmm
BloodyTurtles: same
BloodyTurtles: the autocomplete is a bit broken
BloodyTurtles: it never suggest anything when I need it
Astrobytes: Can't have it all right? :)
struct: depends on language too
struct: on some it does a decent job
BloodyTurtles: shouldn't it work out of the box?
Astrobytes: The C++ is... the python isn't awful, but not great
BloodyTurtles: for me, c++ is totally useless now
BloodyTurtles: it loads for a few seconds
BloodyTurtles: and by then, i already typed it out
BloodyTurtles: and it suggests all these weird internal stuff
Astrobytes: I usually know what I'm gonna write anyway if it's a quick edit, otherwise I'm using VS :shrug:
BloodyTurtles: is a weighted mcts a thing?
BloodyTurtles: like returning a number from a whoWin method
Astrobytes: The value returned from your playout weights the nodes?
Astrobytes: It's kind of the point of it
BloodyTurtles: the value used to back propagate
Astrobytes: Yes you backpropagate the result
BloodyTurtles: thanks
c0cainee: To those who share their code when the game ends, thank you. :heart:
animeWeeb: is anybody here still?
animeWeeb: i guess not.
KiwiTae: nop
KiwiTae: BloodyTurtles use VisualAssist that plugin is a bomb on VS
LoGos: I didn't realize draw was possible in Bandas D:
