JavaMan: sad
miszu: that's why I said goodbye to java and hello to c++ for challenges here
miszu: but C++ is a kind of friend you want to be friend with but he doesn't want to.
miszu: throwing errors and core dumps
Z_Doctor: I doubt c++ actually makes code shorter :smirk:
miszu: depends what you need for. I use it for bot competition now
miszu: it is just I am facing with lots of errors due to the language rules
Th1nhNg0: i love this site <3
Ducknaro: guys
Ducknaro: can you send me an pdf to learn python
Ducknaro: ?
JavaMan: any japanese here?
MSmits: do you want them to be?
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/general/global?column=country&value=JP
MSmits: only 27,130 Japanese accounts
toctou: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f4aa1ed4-9190-4b46-9652-06360837e046
toctou: :relaxed:
Qurtin: まあまあ
Qurtin: 日本人じゃないけどちょと分れます
Ducknaro: guys
Ducknaro: ?
Ducknaro: nothing
NobodyA: hi guys
NobodyA: any newbies here?
JavaMan: one here
Mehroz: hello
NobodyA: lol same :D
AntiSquid: hi i am new
NobodyA: anyone teach me ASCII Art?
Mehroz: what is it?
NobodyA: a task?
jang888: hi
NobodyA: hello
jang888: do u know minecraft
NobodyA: i do but i dont play it
NobodyA: anyone here play tanki online?
jang888: :kissing:
jang888: tanki?
NobodyA: yeah
jang888: what was it?
NobodyA: nvm
NobodyA: pls any professionals help me with ASCII Art
Uljahn: just skip it, solve puzzles you can handle then come back
AntiSquid: you're out of luck, everyone here is unprofessional NobodyA
NobodyA: srsly lol
NobodyA: how do u type red words
AntiSquid: zrzly
AntiSquid: hax
NobodyA: :O
NobodyA: dats a pro
Uljahn: just read the chat help: People will receive notifications when you mention their nickname in the chat, and see those messages displayed in purple
Uljahn: NobodyA
NobodyA: oh
NobodyA: thx
NobodyA: AntiSquid dont fool me
Uljahn: those who don't read help deserve to be fooled :)
NobodyA: :rage:
NobodyA: im just a newbie who didnt know that theres a help button
toctou: i go to write a program in open gl console) crossplatform)
toctou: render text)
AntiSquid: lol)
toctou: yes i want, this code in opengl console
toctou: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f4aa1ed4-9190-4b46-9652-06360837e046
struct: Hello
AntiSquid: hi)
Pegasus7: hello
jang888: i am ...
jang888: iron man
NobodyA: YEET i finally did ASCII Art
MadKnight: when did AntiSquid become a russian ?
MadKnight: oh, toctou turned him into a russian
MSmits: uhm, are Russians like the Borg?
MSmits: Rusistance is futile!
MadKnight: russians are like lol)
MadKnight: hi)
AntiSquid: idk wdym)
MadKnight: AntiSquid)
AntiSquid: MadKnight)
AntiSquid: privet
MadKnight: privet AntiSquid how's your nothing?)
AntiSquid: training a model that can predict how many russians it takes to drink 10 kegs of vodka or more
AntiSquid: Madao)
MadKnight: just a few syniaks
MadKnight: hey Uljahn how do u spell синяки in eng ?
Uljahn: drunkards?
MadKnight: yea or just a single cast of a russian movie about war
MadKnight: these characters drink so much vodka it feels like drunkards won the war
MadKnight: or that drunkards wrote the script
AntiSquid: THEY DID
AntiSquid: LOL
AntiSquid: those movies are 100% realistic
AntiSquid: everyone else died of frost bites trying to invade russia
MadKnight: in those movies germans died because they were too kind to kill
MSmits: being drunk doesnt protect you from hypothermia though
MSmits: just from frostbite to your extremities
MSmits: but it's actually worse that way. Any cold that will cause frostbite, will kill you if you're drunk enough
MSmits: because your entire body cools instead of mostly your fingers and toes
MadKnight: only generals were drunkardies in those movies
MSmits: ah ok
AntiSquid: MadKnight i guess that's one of the few lies, but german sholdiers did get depressed from what they were doing
AntiSquid: soldiers *
MadKnight: just too kind, not too depressed AntiSquid
MSmits: not as depressed as their victims probably :P
MadKnight: they were like "but they're people! are u sure we need to shoot them? even if they're attacking us right now?"
AntiSquid: it still affected them mentally MSmits, it's weird but some committed suicide
AntiSquid: also germans were using their allies as cannon fodder, so probably it wasn't germans shooting at them at that time
MSmits: not surprising
MSmits: war is not a happy time
Uljahn: also not all troops were the same so it's easy to cherry-pick some trained volunteers or newbee conscriptors depending on your goal, that's what propaganda usually do
AntiSquid: anyways drunkards did win the war and if those generals weren't drunk af as the movies show then i would be extremely surprised
AntiSquid: what multi are you doing MSmits ?
AntiSquid: do you start new multi while fitting params?
MSmits: I do AntiSquid. I am finishing up langtons ant with fitting, was also still fitting oware. Doing some test grading and homework, but if I get that done any time soon I will try to code an Onitama bot
jang888: fortnite end game
AntiSquid: make a fortnite multi jang888
jang888: ...
struct: ezpz
AntiSquid: jang888 https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/25775/codingame-sdk-documentation/release-notes
jang888: 3.13.0 is amzing
JavaMan: konbanwa
jang888: admin pls fix this bug
jang888: i was competle task 100 % but when i sumited it say my task was 0%
jang888: *compelte
MadKnight: jang888 what puzzle ?
MadKnight: did u hardcode solution ?
jang888: yes
MadKnight: that's not how u solve puzzles jang888
MadKnight: u can't hardcode anything
MadKnight: hardcoding != solving
jang888: ok i get it
jang888: thank
AntiSquid: jang888, ignore him, you asked for admin, he is not admin, Automaton2000 is
Automaton2000: but i'm lazy and use my notepad a lot....
AntiSquid: see?
jang888: really?
AntiSquid: ask him
AntiSquid: anything
jang888: i get it already
TheVoodooDev: helo
wlesavo: damn, finally finished labirint
MSmits: grats
MSmits: I remember having problems with it too
wlesavo: thx
wlesavo: spaghetty code though
MSmits: doesnt matter
struct: I finished setting up WSL and Visual studio
struct: Now I can code on Visual studio
struct: and dont have to use linux
eulerscheZahl: :(
eulerscheZahl: it's a privilege to be able to use it
AntiSquid: lol struct
struct: Its nothing against linux
struct: But I just like VS too much
AntiSquid: i prefer vsc so w/e
MSmits: it's nice when you're used to an inferior product. Will feel so much better when you switch to VS AntiSquid :)
AntiSquid: it's no inferior
AntiSquid: it's highly customizable
MSmits: yeah, I tried it for a bit, too much work
MSmits: stuff doesnt run
AntiSquid: compare fair phone to regular phone
MSmits: then you need to figure out how
phamnuwen: VS one and only killer feature is the debugger for C++ imo
MSmits: I dont have a smartphone AntiSquid
MSmits: phamnuwen, you can also use C#. It is even more awesome for that
AntiSquid: i still think the analogy helps
AntiSquid: you carry a laptop around with you, so ya maybe you don't need the phone
phamnuwen: MSmits will keep that in mind if I try C#, thanks
MSmits: not because I carry a laptop AntiSquid
MSmits: mainly because I dont want to talk to people :P
AntiSquid: there's phone blocker for that
phamnuwen: *he told cg chat*
AntiSquid: block any number
MSmits: sure, you can block all communications
MSmits: but then its not really a phone anymore now is it
eulerscheZahl: buy a phone, block the features of it
MSmits: phamnuwen, outside of CG I know very few people that will talk to me about coding
AntiSquid: and if you don't want to talk to anyone at a given moment, just disable calls and tell people later you had no signal
MSmits: at every given moment in my case
phamnuwen: haha
MSmits: I'm basically a hermit teacher that only talks about coding when he's not working :P
MSmits: and i like it that way :)
Marchete: closet coder
MSmits: sure
MSmits: I ain't coming out
MSmits: btw I noticed langtons ant still has the bug
MSmits: someone should fix it
AntiSquid: what bug
MSmits: RedStrike abuses it, though he'd be nr 1 without that
MSmits: when the ant hits the edge of the map in game 1, the ant freezes in game 2
MSmits: so if you're ahead when you freeze it in game 1, you win the game
eulerscheZahl: oh, that didn't get fixed?
MSmits: nope
AntiSquid: lol
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440023458
eulerscheZahl: langton can even be edited by anyone with lvl 29+ if we can't get M_C to correct it
MSmits: I dont want to take the risk messing it up, havent done a contribution before
MSmits: but basically, reset the freeze code at the start of every game
MSmits: should be easy
MSmits: shouldnt break any bots that abuse it
MSmits: except they will lose some games
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1989ad342413492aa8be19e50cd004de6311
there's a download button to have a look at the code and see how easy it is
MSmits: because they are trying to abuse it
MSmits: mmh i dont see the button
Astrobytes: Hit 'Details'
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/rgozm4
eulerscheZahl: oh right, that new bug which CG added on friday
MSmits: oh right
Astrobytes: Yeah lol
eulerscheZahl: i have a feeling like it's always Friday when they decide to break stuff
Astrobytes: Doesn't everyone push to the live server on Fridays? :P
MSmits: there's a lot of French in the referee
eulerscheZahl: only if you go on holidays after
Astrobytes: :D
MSmits: comment: On fait avancer la fourmi
MSmits: I now know what an ant is in French
Astrobytes: Just think 'fourmi' and formic acid
eulerscheZahl: i read it as "for me"
eulerscheZahl: or "four me"? :frog: :frog: :frog: :frog:
Astrobytes: Ants produce formic acid you see
Astrobytes: that would be 'pour moi' or 'quatre de moi' euler
MSmits: hard to find a bug in a language I dont code in and a language I dont speak :P
MSmits: i did find where it says the ant goes out of the grid, but i dont see any action being taken
eulerscheZahl: you know C#, so you can read Java
struct: Also you can't understand other's people code
eulerscheZahl: that's the main problem
MSmits: it's a problem, but the main problem is all the French variable names and comments
eulerscheZahl: obfuscation
MSmits: yeah :)
eulerscheZahl: but it seems like Astrobytes speaks some French?
struct: you guys write your vars on your language?
MSmits: no... English
phamnuwen: no
icecream17: YES!!! FINALLY!!!! (ignore this)
eulerscheZahl: i name my vars in English
Astrobytes: Non. Mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles.
MSmits: i know what that means
eulerscheZahl: "No. My hovercraft is full of eels."?
MSmits: you just said: My smell is bad, being an Englishman
eulerscheZahl: either you write nonsense or deepl is broken
Astrobytes: euler is correct. Monty Python reference
MSmits: ow
Astrobytes: The Hungarian phrasebook
phamnuwen: Does the Monty Python stuff translate well into french?
Astrobytes: Anyway, my French is a bit iffy these days
Astrobytes: not sure tbh phamnuwen, I would imagine not
struct: Do you need help with french?
phamnuwen: MSmits might need some assistance, maybe you could translate the variables and comments from here: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1989ad342413492aa8be19e50cd004de6311
MSmits: I found it I think
MSmits: private boolean[] touche_bord=new boolean[]{false,false};
MSmits: this one gets set to true when the ant goes off grid
dbdr: https://i.snipboard.io/k4zVHD.jpg
dbdr: that page is broken for me, CG's javascript crashes apparently
eulerscheZahl: click "details" at the top
eulerscheZahl: known problem, since Friday
dbdr: oh, details work, thanks
MSmits: I know what to do to fix it eulerscheZahl, what do I do now, to avoid breaking anything
dbdr: the referee is not on github?
eulerscheZahl: set up a local project (i use IntelliJ, but you can also use eclipse, command line, ...)
dbdr: that's more usable than the download
eulerscheZahl: not on github
MSmits: sounds complicated eulerscheZahl :(
MSmits: can I not just tell one of you what to change
MSmits: i've never made a java project
eulerscheZahl: yes, tell M_C :D
dbdr: github is nicer to casually browse the code, and also possible to fork and PR
MSmits: don't think he's active
MSmits: or he would have fixed it before
MSmits: redstrike was discussing it months ago
eulerscheZahl: send him a private message via forum, that triggers an email
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: good idea
eulerscheZahl: no response within a few days => we fix it without M_C
MSmits: ok
eulerscheZahl: a question of politeness, i wouldn't like any of you to modify my contributions without telling me either ;)
MSmits: of course not
AntiSquid: oh maybe i should undo that edit then
dbdr: "src/test/java/Monte_Carlo.py"
dbdr: :thinking:
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/552fd2aa-83de-41e5-a332-86b8f0f1e2a9
MSmits: good?
eulerscheZahl: add that replay
MSmits: ah yes of course.
dbdr: no tests it seems :(
MSmits: I sent him the message. It's weird noone bothered before
struct: Now don't find the bug in Yavalath
MSmits: there is no bug :)
dbdr: maybe everyone thought "someone should do it" ;)
MSmits: yeah I suppose
Astrobytes: someone did in the forum thread for it, a few people I believe
MSmits: ah ok, but the creator might not read that. Good idea by euler to do a PM -> mail
Astrobytes: Yep, much better
paolo_lsg: does anyone know what single possibility means in Defibrillators?
eulerscheZahl: text search didn't find "single possibility", give more context
paolo_lsg: that was it. :(
when testing Defibrillators in only got 75% i missed the first one which only says "Single Possibility". i don't see a way to get more details from it.
eulerscheZahl: ah, it's the name of the first validator
eulerscheZahl: share your code (paste it here)
eulerscheZahl: my guess: radians/degrees conversion
paolo_lsg: everything? hmm
paolo_lsg: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f4d661cf-58bc-4a50-8296-8c8093170995
paolo_lsg: oh cool, it just creates a link for the code
eulerscheZahl: you didn't use the formula given in the description?
paolo_lsg: no. i tried using the formula at first, but it didn't work for Complete file and Complete file 2. that's why i had to look for another formula.
eulerscheZahl: the given formula works as expected
eulerscheZahl: if you take another one, you might get slightly different results, thus a red validator
eulerscheZahl: revert to the other formula and spot the bug
paolo_lsg: alright, i'll try it again. thanks
paolo_lsg: changed the formula to use the one given. it's working now. i probably just made a mistake before. but, i'm still stuck at single possibility. :(
eulerscheZahl: would you mind sharing the code again?
paolo_lsg: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/672ed119-eefc-406f-b73f-f9786ed2bf2a
eulerscheZahl: hm, i get the same distances up to 10 or more decimal digits :thinking:
paolo_lsg: oh ok. thanks. i'll look into precision.
eulerscheZahl: i'm saying i have no idea why it's not working
eulerscheZahl: not a precision problem
paolo_lsg: i'm sniffing through the forums now. thanks for helping me. i'm new here.
struct: Your code has a problem when having only 1 city
paolo_lsg: well that was a big d'oh. just set N to 1. mine wasn't working because i had a Console Error Log which looks for the 2nd entry in my list. its all good now.
JFB: paolo_lsg - I solved this puzle years ago so I do not remember exactly. But I have impresion that it was problem with ';' in one of adresses. So sometimes it was more fields after ';' parsing. So my solution get lat, lon from last and 2nd from the end fields
JFB: I see that you get from last fields too. So it is not the problem. But you check do it is less than 5 fields and skip such lines. Try to comment out this line - maybe they are lines with less then 5 fields?
paolo_lsg: yeah. thanks everyone. i was getting the last one. i deleted my other console logs for debugging and its working now. :D
AntiSquid: no problem paolo_lsg
MSmits: well I'm off work for 3 weeks...
MSmits: they just decided to close the schools after all
struct: Should I even round values on turn end of CSB
reCurse: I don't get off that easy, still need to work remote
struct: since they dont seem to do it in the referee?
MSmits: i do too reCurse, but it's a lot less work than normally
reCurse: They do round
struct: MSmits but no classes via computer?
MSmits: yeah, I'll produce some stuff and answer questions
MSmits: but it's still a lot less work
struct: Ok, I guess the leaked referee is not the one they are using
MSmits: also, normally I commute 2 hrs a day
struct: Does the same apply to angles recurs e?
reCurse: No
reCurse: They give you round angles but still use the real one
struct: Thanks
struct: Easy to keep track
reCurse: It's very difficult to get 100% simulation unless you use doubles
reCurse: But then your perf sucks
reCurse: Did CG just add security check to replays :o
struct: Why do you think that?
struct: about replays
reCurse: Unauthorized access error
struct: Maybe replays from validators?
MSmits: did this happen on a batch reCurse
MSmits: cg bench?
reCurse: Replays from play button only work if you're logged in
reCurse: Wasn't like that before
struct: I think you needed to press share for it to become public
reCurse: No
reCurse: I 100% confirm that didn't work
reCurse: Now it does though
MSmits: share just makes a link
MSmits: afaik
reCurse: I think they added security check
reCurse: So share might disable that now
struct: The link is made on play
MSmits: oh cool
MSmits: thats how it should work
reCurse: I guess
reCurse: A bit annoying tho but we
reCurse: w/e
MadKnight: did u read that link MSmits ?
MadKnight: did u at least start ?
reCurse: Yay I fixed my exploitation resistant training
dbdr: reCurse so what's the verdict? replays only accessible if you are logged in, or...?
JFB: MSmits - in my country they will oficially close school from Monday - but it looks that, seeing what is going on in Italy, schools stopped from Friday at least. I was not sure do it is good move - becouse at the start it was grands too loof for childres becouse parent went to work
reCurse: For the play button, only if you're logged in
reCurse: Probably nothing for public games like submits
dbdr: OK
MSmits: same here JFB, on monday
MSmits: MadKnight, i only looked at the link. too much Russian and I don't like google translated text. Not even gonna try that
JFB: But now it looks that more and more people it knowing that is better to work remotly or get leave from works to look for children. And I think that is possible, in worst case scenario, to convert schools into temporary hospitals
MSmits: i liked the pics and got the gist of what it was about
reCurse: 80% against old version, 89% against smits but only 65% against robo
reCurse: Oh well can't win them all
MSmits: still oware reCurse?
Omnium: is Spain they are converting hotels into hospitals
reCurse: Yeah...
reCurse: The really annoying thing with ML is any bug is really just adding noise
reCurse: So everything still works
reCurse: But less well
MSmits: dont worry too much about the winrate vs me.... it's gonna change at some point. But I won't submit spam you just to bring you down if i happen to be 50% + I only try for nr1 if i can stay there even when others submit
MadKnight: MSmits but the pics are in en
JFB: Omnium - in Spain they have a lot of hotels -
reCurse: Well I don't exactly have that many benchmarks
reCurse: Take what I have :P
reCurse: I'm more interested into being less exploitattive
reCurse: So more stable
struct: Just ask MSmits for the code
struct: Then you can run more
reCurse: I think the new training has proved itself
MSmits: well the thing is, your nn is likely going to be much better vs rank 4 and down than mine is, even if mine beats you over 50% at some point. That has been my experience since the start for both you and Robo, the NN's are more versatile against different bots
reCurse: Maybe more versatile but also exploitable
reCurse: Hopefully I fixed the latter
MSmits: I would win 80% and you would win 95% is what i mean
reCurse: Yeah I know
MSmits: kk
reCurse: Wish I had more insight on that
MSmits: I had too much of that. I am not looking forward to doing much more fitting, it's not a lot of fun. I only persisted because I had a lot of success with it... but for small gains its not worth it
MadKnight: MSmits just look at the pics, they're informative and in en
MSmits: they are MadKnight, but I am not currently learning. When I try to learn about a subject I go all out. Not just look at some pics. We established I will do this over the summer :)
MSmits: gonna go get some food while it's quiet in the supermarket.
MSmits: ttyl
AntiSquid: the kung fu trainer sent an email about doing classes over skype instead of attending in person
Scarfield: Dont try to break the board he is holding!
AntiSquid: i never seen anyone break stuff . it's just the usual kung fu dance you can watch on youtube btw, you learn a pattern, i just do it to keep fit
Scarfield: i prefere eating heavy cookies
Astrobytes: I follow a strict Kung Pao regimen
Scarfield: For CSB how is the velocities changed when a collision has less then 120 impulse?
MadKnight: it just sets impulse to 120
MadKnight: and applies 120 impulse on bounce
Scarfield: i have tried to extend the vel vector, and adding the needed vel change along the contact angle, but neither seems to be correct
MadKnight: it actually applies 2 impulses - first to stop pods, second to bounce them
MadKnight: u gotta set second to 120
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d3176d2b-abdd-4b82-a7b5-3c3da1658ba6
MadKnight: yea that's how u set it
eulerscheZahl: reCurse 05:49PM
I think they added security check
optim validators are protected now, that's quite new (2 weeks maybe)
Scarfield: okay, so it extends the after collision vector right?
struct: I think he means other thing
eulerscheZahl: MSmits congrats to your gained spare time
Scarfield: along its own length
struct: He is saying that replays that are generated once you press play my code
struct: are not public anymore
dbdr: inb4 massive MSmits gains :)
reCurse: Crap I should have gotten around to those ML validators before then
struct: Don't know if sarcasm or not :thinking:
reCurse: It's not, ML validators are not the same as tests
AntiSquid: validators protected? did they change them at least + resub everything?
reCurse: More of a side effect of added security on replays
AntiSquid: ah you can't share IDE replays anymore? :/
reCurse: You need to click the share button now I think
reCurse: Didn't test
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440177755 IDE replay
struct: Is that new replay or old?
AntiSquid: new
AntiSquid: well i crashed coz editing stuff
AntiSquid: messy old code
eulerscheZahl: i downloaded the marslander validators in the past, but never progressed any further https://gofile.io/?c=jDDvFV
eulerscheZahl: didn't even filter for mars lander replays, so that's all kind of other stuff with similar replay ID
eulerscheZahl: RIP CG sponsored contest validators, i never downloaded them
AntiSquid: didn't someone say those always change?
AntiSquid: or that there's some randomness in there
eulerscheZahl: no
AntiSquid: something like this:
https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/758100a939c77b58a4a37fc56ab749a6cbced5
eulerscheZahl: only for bulls and cows
eulerscheZahl: psst, we don't talk about the reverse game
AntiSquid: then i missunderstood the game
eulerscheZahl: back when schubc reached #1, he generated about 15k testcases
eulerscheZahl: and passed every single one of them
eulerscheZahl: test = predict AI movements for given board
reCurse: Thanks euler
AntiSquid: 15k @_@
eulerscheZahl: so it's pretty deterministic
AntiSquid: anyways wonder why they never released the pacman game
eulerscheZahl: maybe some company hackathon, no idea
eulerscheZahl: probably never planned to be visible, just by accident
eulerscheZahl: and there was a captain sonar game, looked pretty finished too
eulerscheZahl: broken now (pixi.js update)
AntiSquid: cg_ lizard avatar guy wanted to make a contest out of it
eulerscheZahl: CG Rom?
reCurse: Oh it's not your contrib?
eulerscheZahl: out of the captain sonar?
AntiSquid: yes
eulerscheZahl: jupoulton uploaded the pacman
eulerscheZahl: accidentally as public for a few minutes
AntiSquid: no reCurse, i sniped it, was only briefly available
eulerscheZahl: i completely missed it, but squiddy downloaded the zip
eulerscheZahl: (thanks for that)
reCurse: Looks kinda neat
Ducknaro: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/115487372c93b4341433df1e2759795ebd5997d
Ducknaro: guys
struct: Thanks
struct: Just what I needed
struct: A CoC
Ducknaro: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1154889f92e225082b16d316e73b973ddc164ee
Ducknaro: guys
Astrobytes: Ducknaro could you please stop spamming CoC invites in the chat?
MadKnight: AntiSquid saves the chat
jacek: yeah, invite euler to coc, not us
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**MSmits ducks
FlyingCube_b2fc: Hello
struct: hi
FlyingCube_b2fc: I'm starting learn javascript
MSmits: sorry to hear that :(
MSmits: hope you feel better soon
FlyingCube_b2fc: Why?
MSmits: I'm just messing with you.
MSmits: JS is not the nicest language to work with
struct: at least he doesnt have to deal with avx
struct: going crazy
AntiSquid: FlyingCube_b2fc just use whatever you enjoy
AntiSquid: this place won't help you learn the most important features of JS though, since you won't need them here
struct: Cant that be said for most of languages?
AntiSquid: yes
MrKrakus: I only try new method learn JS
MrKrakus: Because, I take part on course
MrKrakus: On the udemy
MrKrakus: And today, I
AntiSquid: omg
AntiSquid: wtf
AntiSquid: why udemy ?
MrKrakus: I watch youtuber
AntiSquid: but it's filled with crap
MrKrakus: And he was there course
AntiSquid: are you paying too?
MrKrakus: Yes
MrKrakus: Not to much]
MrKrakus: How you learning?
Omnium: you learn by doing
AntiSquid: NOT UDEMY
Omnium: you have a crusade against them?
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: they're crap
AntiSquid: and he is paying lol
Omnium: hvent tried. just doing things while uni
AntiSquid: when there's ample free alternatives and even better paid alternatives if you really want to pay
MSmits: mmh so my boss nominated me to be an ict specialist to help my colleagues teach from home :P
Omnium: home is awesome. I prefer doing online uni than going there
MSmits: and I go to work tomorrow after all, probably dealing with this
AntiSquid: you'll make a great patsy if shit hits the fan
struct: Im gonna ditch cache for now
struct: ón collisions
MSmits: nah it's just helping out, no responsibility other than trying your best
struct: its not very important on csb anyways
MSmits: also shit hitting the fan is a different virus
Astrobytes: lol
MSmits: Astrobytes knows this, he is a specialist
eulerscheZahl: noro virus
struct: omfg
struct: What a nice bug
MSmits: thats one yeah
struct: I cant even copy paste
eulerscheZahl: my grandma brought it to her retirement castle when she got there
MSmits: that may have killed some people =/
eulerscheZahl: a few days later everyone had to stay in their own room
Astrobytes: You have castles for the elderly in DE?
eulerscheZahl: no, i'm not a native speaker and remembered that name from the simpsons
eulerscheZahl: Abe lives there
Astrobytes: ofc, haha yes indeed he does
eulerscheZahl: so, how should i call it?
MSmits: home
Astrobytes: Just retirement home
eulerscheZahl: teach me new vocabulary
MSmits: retirement home
eulerscheZahl: ok
Astrobytes: I liked the Simpsons reference though
eulerscheZahl: to some degree that's how i learned English
eulerscheZahl: by watching TV
MSmits: same
Astrobytes: Yup, I know a lot of people who did that
MSmits: my daughter watches every dvd in English, French and Dutch.. dunno why
Astrobytes: Ever watched the Simpsons in French? That's some trip
MSmits: she just decides she knows it in one language and picks a different one
eulerscheZahl: but she also sings in Chinese
Astrobytes: That's awesome though MSmits
MSmits: yeah there was a time where she would just use chinese words
eulerscheZahl: i don't speak French at all
so i didn't watch the Simpsons in Fr
MSmits: from ni hao kai lan
Astrobytes: When I was last in France I watched it, from the theme tune to the end I was like WTF
MSmits: is it different from other French stuff?
eulerscheZahl: bad dubbing?
voices totally different?
struct: Portuguese don't really dub stuff
MSmits: we dont either
struct: at least pt-pt
struct: pt-br dub a lot
Astrobytes: The voices, yes, they were hilarious
eulerscheZahl: in the german version they tried to get the voices as close as possible to the original
struct: I can't watch dubed movies
AntiSquid: MSmits does she use the correct intonation? :p
AntiSquid: that's the key to actually speaking propoer "chinese"
MSmits: i know for English, not sure if her Chinese was
MSmits: probably not
eulerscheZahl: someone recorded the TV :/ but shows German Homer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNXsrZZN3vg
eulerscheZahl: sadly he died a few years ago
Astrobytes: not bad!
Astrobytes: Actually some of the French voices are OK I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTn8Z65rc4s
Astrobytes: I mean, Marge sounds like she was just sent from Hell or something
eulerscheZahl: the big guy at 0:54 (frederic taytum?) has the voice of a child
AntiSquid: Marge = chain smoker
Bart = very girly
Astrobytes: Drederick yeah lol, didn't quite capture his 'essence'
Astrobytes: Lisa sounds OK
eulerscheZahl: it's usual that kids are spoken by women
eulerscheZahl: bart = nancy cartwrite in the US version
eulerscheZahl: scientologist iirc
Astrobytes: Homer OK at points, Wiggum terrible, Milhouse not bad
eulerscheZahl: wiggum too deep
eulerscheZahl: should swap with frederic
eulerscheZahl: not good but better that way
Astrobytes: Yeah
AntiSquid: is that show still running?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: but i stopped watching it
eulerscheZahl: not funny anymore
eulerscheZahl: i didn't even remember the plot 30min after i watched it
Astrobytes: They just recycle old stuff. I gave up on it years ago now
eulerscheZahl: same
Astrobytes: It had a great run though
AntiSquid: and futurama?
eulerscheZahl: cancelled
eulerscheZahl: twice
AntiSquid: i didn't like the newer episodes, forgot why
eulerscheZahl: i liked the new ones too
Astrobytes: I don't think they made any bad Futurama episodes tbh
eulerscheZahl: worst simpsons episode (at least before i stopped watching): All Singing, All Dancing
eulerscheZahl: for Futurama i don't remember a no-go
eulerscheZahl: the dog waiting for Fry made me sad
Astrobytes: That was a clip show right? Of all the songs
eulerscheZahl: yes
struct: x = 13872 and y = -5067, while pod is at 5620 2598
struct: close enough
Astrobytes: Yeah that was pretty crap
miszu: QQ, what system is running the C++? Is it a 64 bit one?
eulerscheZahl: yes
miszu: thanks
eulerscheZahl: i don't think that CG has any 32bit CPUs
miszu: just sanity check, I am using a pool so thinking should I use pointer or a number to represent the index. pointer size is bigger than int32 size
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/faq
eulerscheZahl: "Your program is compiled and run in a Linux environment on a 64bit multi-core architecture."
Astrobytes: beat me to it... again
eulerscheZahl: but you only have a single core for your process
Astrobytes: even though we get pthread
miszu: I don't think multithreading would help muchhere
eulerscheZahl: others tried, not worth the effort
dbdr: wow, eulerscheZahl #2 in optim, gg
eulerscheZahl: huh?
eulerscheZahl: must be bulls and cows
dbdr: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/optim/global
eulerscheZahl: i didn't even realize
eulerscheZahl: got 304 as well
miszu: I am 3 269 xD
eulerscheZahl: my best offline was 290
dbdr: yeah, though it cannot be that many points yet
struct: should be CvZ
eulerscheZahl: last time i checked, i was 3 or 4 points below marchete
only played the bulls after
eulerscheZahl: and still very close
dbdr: ah yes, if you were that close...
dbdr: by the way, when you did A*C offline, did you ever get to #1?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: for 10min maybe, then Neumann got me back
dbdr: lol
kovi: hardcoders...
eulerscheZahl: my real score should be around 10.6k
eulerscheZahl: had a discussion with neumann how easy it is to hardcode, he said that it's still an achievement
dbdr: offline is real :)
eulerscheZahl: i told him that i can easily get the validators and become #1
dbdr: because Neumann used a much hard method, right?
dbdr: but once you have the validators, it's still hard to optimize
eulerscheZahl: the point is: only 3 or 4 players are playing offline, so it's an unfair comparison
Neumann: Those damn hardcoders .. grrrr .. They even gather and organize competitions dedicated to hardcoding. They call it hashcode. What a bunch of losers
eulerscheZahl: :D
Neumann: I'd rather spam my rng-based search and hope for a lucky hi-score
Neumann: LUL
kovi: well, true
Neumann: :)
kovi: cg system is not proper for optim
eulerscheZahl: i'm fine with hardcoding, when everyone gets the validators (same chances for everyone)
Neumann: I agree on the "unfair" factor tho
eulerscheZahl: i heavily agree with kovi
dbdr: well, NS is pretty fair
Neumann: lol
eulerscheZahl: topcoder: validators during the contest
eulerscheZahl: then a huge rerun with other testcases for final standings
eulerscheZahl: only takes 2 weeks to get the final results :rolling_eyes:
kovi: ns. yeah, it is hardcode for everyone
kovi: topcoder - but it is still a time limited contest. with a single final run
eulerscheZahl: the most fair solution: regular resubmit with new testcases
but that would require a lot of CPU time, completely unreasonable for CG
Neumann: We're having this discussion every 3 weeks for 2 years now
eulerscheZahl: so hardcoding would be acceptable IMO (see hashcode), if the validators were more accessible
dbdr: I think 50% of CG CPU is spent on CSB alone :D
eulerscheZahl: i just silently accept that CG and optim don't fit well
eulerscheZahl: can be fun solving the puzzles, but i don't play for a "fair" ranking, however that should be defined
dbdr: it's also fun to find the ways to go around the system
dbdr: e.g. what we did on CGfunge
eulerscheZahl: i never thought about unicode to load large numbers
dbdr: that's similar to what goes on in computer security, in a simple way
yalcinberkay: This site is awesome
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
struct: :'(
Devraj: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1155056d33cefd4520ead3331c7df9d9edf24f3
Astrobytes: Devraj please don't spam CoC invites in the chat, thank you
Devraj: poop
Devraj: sock
BenjaminUrquhart: sock
MSmits: no... he meant poopsock
MSmits: it's an insult I think ?
struct: Is not today Im gonna finish csb
struct: Tomorrow Ill give it another go
MSmits: sleep helps
MSmits: mmh I am still thinking about an onitama board representation
struct: what do you mean?
MSmits: like a bitboard
MSmits: I can see several ways to put it in 64 bit, with the cards separate
MSmits: but has to be fast to apply the moves
struct: ah I got confused and thought it was oware
MSmits: nah
MSmits: it's gonna be my next multi I think
MSmits: onitama I mean
struct: I dont know what to choose
struct: so many games
MSmits: choose what seems fun
struct: I still need to finish Yinsh
Astrobytes: Before Yinsh finishes you struct ;)
struct: Is just the move generator
struct: I cant recall how to do it
AntiSquid: yinish ?
AntiSquid: is it a game you are making struct?
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 ping Tobou
Automaton2000: but it is quite a bit
Astrobytes: AntiSquid yeah
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7854/yinsh
AntiSquid: struct the move generation doesn't seem that hard but i don't see why you need to do it, it looks quite big
AntiSquid: https://youtu.be/ceN1O94omgA?t=182
AguliRojo: I dont get those games, everytime when i want to set viariables to not avoid fail conditions, it just doesnt compile
AguliRojo: i added current x and current y and added them on while loop , it decides to not compile on whgile loop
BenjaminUrquhart: which puzzle?
BenjaminUrquhart: and code please
AguliRojo: https://codeshare.io/2pR9nx
AguliRojo: Power of Thor
Astrobytes: while (true || x <39 || y <17)
BenjaminUrquhart: always true
AntiSquid: while(1) then
JBM: always true is good no?
JBM: who wants to live in a world of lies?
AguliRojo: oh , its one & instead of two :open_mouth:
BenjaminUrquhart: what
Astrobytes: huh?
Astrobytes: And lol JBM
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: i tend to use the first turn
JBM: yeah we all do
Astrobytes: AguliRojo Get rid of this: || x <39 || y <17
AntiSquid: just use while(1)
AguliRojo: Yeah i did right of the bat
AntiSquid: yeah
AguliRojo: replaced with and statement
AntiSquid: with bitwise and ?
Astrobytes: No, leave it as while(true)
AguliRojo: but didnt realised i had to add to change variable on every move
BenjaminUrquhart: the classic thor mistake
BenjaminUrquhart: not updating coords
Astrobytes: It's enough to give anyone a Thor head . . .
AguliRojo: True , maintaining code must be a pain
BenjaminUrquhart: more like
BenjaminUrquhart: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f74d329e-c263-46eb-9197-1f73d230f116
AguliRojo: Thank you Thor seems much easier than Legends of Code and Magic to start off
BenjaminUrquhart: one off more like 2 off everywhere
BenjaminUrquhart: because it is
Astrobytes: AguliRojo DEFINITELY start with the easy puzzles before you attempt something in the Bot Programming section
AntiSquid: just do CSB AguliRojo
Astrobytes: MadSquid
AntiSquid: or do Oware
AguliRojo: CSB? it shows me bunch of users
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
AntiSquid: ya the dark csb army
AntiSquid: of doom
AntiSquid: legend of code and magic is hard because of draft
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/code-of-kutulu
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/oware-abapa
AguliRojo: I couldnt even start in any laguage, documentation gets me
AntiSquid: try one of those
BenjaminUrquhart: docs are boring
AntiSquid: those are simple compared to the rest
AguliRojo: I dont know where to find those , are they under Learn tab?
Astrobytes: RATM? Rage Against The Manual?
Astrobytes: @BenjaminUrquhart
AntiSquid: just click the link to "find" them
AntiSquid: this one is also one of the easier ones imo :
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/vindinium
AntiSquid: easy to get shit going i mean
AguliRojo: Thank you ill check them for sure. I missed coding at university.
struct: AutomatonNN help please
AutomatonNN: I am a noob
MadKnight: he's a noob struct don't ask him
BenjaminUrquhart: so, my code runs fine in CG but segfaults locally
BenjaminUrquhart: I feel like this is a problem
BenjaminUrquhart: oh I found the problem
BenjaminUrquhart: totally didn't forget to initialize a variable
BenjaminUrquhart: and infinite recursion in certain cases
CacaToilette: join clash of code or i suicide myself
InvisibleScone_fce8: Hi
RustyTraveller_2bb5: there needs to be a virgin vs chad game
Ydrialz: hey peepz, do you also encounter a problem with submitting your reports ?
ThePythonian: When you try to join Clash of Code but no ones on
EquinoxWhale: Clash games aren't starting for me ;________;
ThePythonian: Lol
ThePythonian: Just keeps looping
dst: +1
daffie: why no games available
CIV: guys got any js for gold league game of drones ?
Z_Doctor: You guys mean clash?
CIV: stuck in silver
daffie: strikje back
daffie: http://prntscr.com/rgxt7a
daffie: earlier I was sitting at 2nd and defeated the boss several times but never advanced either
daffie: not sure if it's my end or not
JavaMan: sad
