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eulerscheZahl: Hi, i'm late to your community contest discussion from yesterday. They don't want more contests as they fear it might lower the player count for their main events

eulerscheZahl: it's not even (or not mainly) about the effort, if the content comes from the community. They just don't want more. I pitched this one in August to get rejected now: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5118d71262a5772672a3a604a0a53942eb12

Uljahn: hi, Euler, thanks for clarification, sad news indeed

eulerscheZahl: at least we have a clear statement now. was in the void for long. now it will be something like the puzzle of thee week, just promoted a bit more (own tile on the homepage)

eulerscheZahl: what defines a contest for me: everyone starts with nothing, gradual improvement, leagues, closing event with recalc and post mortems but that's not gonna happen

735487: no contest anymore?

YurkovAS: only clash contests :smile:

dbf: it will puzzle of the week but with leatherboard and without leagues?

eulerscheZahl: I don't know the details. I annoyed them to have a community contest. So they invited the regular users to a "brainstorming" session. and then it was all about how to attract new users

eulerscheZahl: then the question that everyone of the regulars was thinking was asked: what about community contests? from there it went downhill

eulerscheZahl: a vague concept is described on discord. at some point i shut down the computer to go for a walk

dbf: yep, I've checked discord log quickly, I see their points, but it is sad that they are not able to launch community for a game that was ready before they announced their position

eulerscheZahl: yeah, shit happens. with their promotion on the start page they max even get a high player count. but more casual players and less who try hard i think

eulerscheZahl: and pretty much anything can get featured for 1-2 weeks: puzzle multi, optim, clash

MadKnight: sad

MadKnight: будем юзать сервис crypt'а чтобы гонять такие же контесты

MadKnight: просто неофициальные

MadKnight: Uljahn ты же играл в unofficial community contest ?

Uljahn: нет, только регился

Uljahn: если это про то, о чём я подумал

Uljahn: раньше мне CG представлялся платформой для про-кодеров и тех, кто стремится стать про, а теперь всё движется в сторону охвата более широких слоёв аудитории, т.е. нубов и школьников, от которых только спам и низкосортные клэши :(

735487: я так и не понял. контесты вообще будут?

eulerscheZahl: 2 official contests per year. that's all we get

eulerscheZahl: it's even going so far that CG considers OoC a failure in hindsight. taking away players from pacman which was shortly after

Uljahn: :weary:

BorisZ: eulerscheZahl OoC was wonderful contest, simple rules and versatile further, you made a great work

eulerscheZahl: i took over short before the contest. I knew about it 2 days before everyone else :D

BorisZ: sad that staff don't want community contest anymore

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5118d71262a5772672a3a604a0a53942eb12 this would have been my own creation

BorisZ: they rejected it as contest, right? or as multi too&

BorisZ: ?

eulerscheZahl: as a contest. community can decide about multiplayer. i can't think of a scenario where it would get refused

wlesavo: oh nice triangle game euler

eulerscheZahl: still WIP, trictrac found a bug a few hours ago

wlesavo: also completely missed the disscussion, thx for update

BorisZ: bugs aren't a problem, all contests have some.

BorisZ: some sort of unofficial contest look a good idea - all in equal start position

eulerscheZahl: i know. but now there is no need to hurry anymore so i can keep it WIP a few more days

eulerscheZahl: was sitting on this game since August, took a while to get a reaction

eulerscheZahl: the problem will be that we can't mobilize that many players without some official announcement. and even then it's not a contest

eulerscheZahl: bitrunner was announced via email. less than 200 players during the "contest period"

BorisZ: I hope this one will collect more - a lot of ppl have heard you was working on it:wink:

BorisZ: and second - bitrunner was physic an simulation game, some ppl don't like that sort of stuff

BorisZ: me for example :disappointed:

eulerscheZahl: me too, I still don't have a bitrunner bot :(

eulerscheZahl: Mean Max was a contest, was easier for me to find some motivation

BorisZ: I can imagine your feeling:sweat:

Uljahn: let them learn by consequences of their own decisions i guess

735487: eulerscheZahl: i could say for my personal why i was not playing with bitrunner. first of all becaise it is unofficial. also it was overlapped for other event (dont remember which) or was so close to next contest.

735487: also it was close to csb

735487: so no way to get achievements for contest creators anymore?

735487: the bad thing also could be that we dont have a leagues for that