Rodrigo_the_coder: writeln
Laminator: I've seen some monsters at Bash. It is also crazy good for short. But extremely unreadable.
Schwase: howdy
Mehrob: hello
Mehrob: hello
Mehrob: hi
Unkmar: Yo
Unkmar: The best part of the palindrome. I haven't solved it yet.
Unkmar: Literally, days later.
Mehrob: yyeeee
_Nilu_: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**_Nilu_ slaps around a bit with a large fishbot
_Nilu_: I am just trying to understand commands
Unkmar: what language?
_Nilu_: /me
_Nilu_: type /help
**Unkmar flops about like a large trout.
_Nilu_: anyone ready to play a private clash,reverse mode ?
Unkmar: I do okay at reverse mode but generally don't like it. Often takes to long to understand what is expected.
Rodrigo_the_coder: lol
jrke: MSmits still painting his house? i wanna see his D&B bot :nerd:
emh: hi I'm new to ruby. why does ruby -e 'p [-12, -5, -137].min{|x|x*x}' return the first number -12 and not -5?
jacek: his paiting his walls with boxes
Rodrigo_the_coder: I'm a pro at ghost iin the cell
Rodrigo_the_coder: *in
Unkmar: because -12 is smaller than -5.
Unkmar: but... -137 would be smaller than -5 so... I don't know.
Rodrigo_the_coder: but I got pure luck
Rodrigo_the_coder: for real
Rodrigo_the_coder: in ghost in the cell I have 2 outcomes: draw and win.
Rodrigo_the_coder: :sunglasses:
Rodrigo_the_coder: how to always win: writeln(move 1 3 3)
PikaYuhno: bruh diga
PikaYuhno: bruh diga
PikaYuhno: buh diga
Rodrigo_the_coder: my 'glitching_code' make me win in ghost iin the cell
Rodrigo_the_coder: *made
_Nilu_:
/msg superinuit
AlinHero: Hi Guys, in python how do I combine the current hour minutes and seconds into something like from 09:30:25 into string 093025 ?
AlinHero: the current time I want
jacek: "09:30:25".replace(":","")
AlinHero: easy stuff
AlinHero: thanks
AlinHero: now = datetime.datetime.now().strftime("%H:%M:%S")
print(now.replace(':',))
erva: Hey
elias121202: heil
_Leo: Halli Hallo
Remembered_Goodbye: hey
Remembered_Goodbye: i have only been coding for a few months in either python or lua, and i find the challenges too hard. what should i start with
jacek: easy puzzles? clashes?
Remembered_Goodbye: ok
Danotris: Hey peole, is there really no way to know why a validator is KO ? I have just one right now, and I can't figure out what is wrong
Uljahn: is it a community puzzle?
Danotris: It's Bender Part 1
Danotris: I wanted to check the forums but they are down right now
Danotris: Every validator is OK except Teleport
Danotris: But I really can't see why
tekki: AutomatonNN help Danotris please :)
AutomatonNN: what do you mean?
Danotris: AutomatonNN, i hate validators
AutomatonNN: what is the most problem with the same opponent and not playing with the cards and see what is a goo
Danotris: Yeah right
BORN2CODE: hey
BORN2CODE: sup
tekki: hi all
tekki: please tell me all is fine :) Automaton2000
Automaton2000: or i would have to read it
MadKnight: AutomatonNN isn't fine tekki
AutomatonNN: hey bot are u in the problem with the car change?
tekki: what's the problem MadKnight?
MadKnight: tell him AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: what is that?
MadKnight: exactly Automatonn
MadKnight: exactly AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: *space*
MadKnight: AutomatonNN makes no sense
AutomatonNN: why do you think i did with the code of the battle ?
tekki: what are you thinking about AutomatonNN?
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see a bot for that particular player
MadKnight: he really likes to ping euler
jacek: maybe AutomatonNN has him in the opening book
AutomatonNN: fix the problem
tekki: problem solved thanks AUtomatonNN
AutomatonNN: cyberpunk i didn't say anything
tekki: AutomatonNN can you kiss AUtomaton2000 for me?
AutomatonNN: gratz
Automaton2000: go to a private chat sir this is a small improvement
jacek: AutomatonNN who's the best waifu and why is this Princess Luna?
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see a pattern around in a house turn and so on
tekki: AutomatonNN be more explicit please
AutomatonNN: MadKnight is a bot in gold?
tekki: MadKnight is not a bot AutomatmonNN
tekki: MadKnight is not a bot AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the problem with the code and message that you are an attention
Astrobytes: wow, he's on a pinging spree
tekki: AutomatonNN are you sick?
AutomatonNN: What do you think about the contest or java or javascript?
tekki: welcome back AutomatonNN you are not pinging euler :)
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the same as in a contest?
jacek: regina noctis pro nobis, AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to implement the game against when someone else has a problem
tekki: i don't think so AUtomatonNN that' would be unfaire
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to add some calculations to this puzzle in the last contest first
tekki: AUtomatonNN cheat is not allowed!!!
Astrobytes: OK, that's probably enough euler pinging for one day lol
AutomatonNN: why do you have it seriously?
tekki: AutomatonNN how is AUtomaton2000?
Automaton2000: i cant figure out how to build a sim
AutomatonNN: what is the most problem
Astrobytes: tekki: please give it a rest will you
tekki: AutomatonNN do you need to rest?
AutomatonNN: how do you know what the enemy can handle the same as a sample?
Astrobytes: tekki: stop it
tekki: ok astro sorry
tekki: can i say byebye to AUtomatonNN?
AutomatonNN: Water is wrong
Astrobytes: Next time is a kick. Don't push it
Joseph_Mother: bruh
Joseph_Mother: some of these explanations make like 0 sense
Astrobytes: How so?
jacek: just read the statement
Philbot: are wee getting more profile updates this week ??
eulerscheZahl: CodinGame forum is down for a bit of maintenance right now
because we are making little (or big) changes.
eulerscheZahl: :scream:
Marchete: do you hacked it too?
Marchete: did*
Marchete: :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: i'm completely innocent
Marchete: ok then yes
midomawk: Hello
tekki: hi midomawk
tekki: what are you doing?
midomawk: i prepare for a coding interview
Joseph_Mother: theres like
Joseph_Mother: 10000 foreign people on here
tekki: gl mido
midomawk: merci :)
macobo: Foreign is a state of mind
macobo: everyone here is local in their country ;)
Hjax: calling people foreign on the internet is kind of a weird take
Hjax: of course theres people from all countries here
Hjax: this isnt even an american website, its french
starmaq: and forgein is relative to who's talking
Hjax: a lot of americans have an attitude where everything on the internet belongs to america i think
Hjax: people forget the whole world is on here
starmaq: true
starmaq: but to be fair most of the internet belongs to america
Hjax: i think thats becoming less true over time
Joseph_Mother: everything on the internet should belong to america
EdGHa: oof
Hjax: ? what
Hjax: no absolutely not, the internet is for everyone
Joseph_Mother: no
uvBoss: oke weirdos
TrietNham: yo wtf
AntiSquid: if you're a hillbilly even people from your own country are foreigners that need to get away from your property @Joseph_Mother
TrietNham: did i miss something
jrke: Joseph_Mother everything does not belongs to just America.
uvBoss: that guy is just tryna piss everyone off
Schwase: ^fake news
AntiSquid: jrke it's a troll don't take it seriously
uvBoss: yea
Schwase: lol sorry tldr
AntiSquid: and stop being **anti-patriotic**
Schwase: wdym by that @AntiSquid ?
AntiSquid: i would like to reply to your question with another joke but might have to explain that too
Schwase: ironically patriotic?
Schwase: or just not patriotic?
AntiSquid: w/e
The Boys season 2 episode 6 is out !
Joseph_Mother: everything does belong to america
jrke: Joseph went mad :joy:
AntiSquid: ya it's repetitive, not funny, stop, do something or be more creative Joseph_Mother
icecream17: oh what's happening
Joseph_Mother: i mean its true
Joseph_Mother: we have like
Joseph_Mother: a few thousand nukes
icecream17: that doesn't mean we control everything, many other coutnries have nukes too
icecream17: and we can't really use them
AntiSquid: 1000 nukes is enough to wipe all of humanity out of existence
Joseph_Mother: Joseph_mother
AntiSquid: it's like "hey i am proud we have the perfect suicide method"
Joseph_Mother: no
icecream17: i wonder what other countries think
AntiSquid: others have nukes too
AntiSquid: or are making nukes
AntiSquid: but afghanistan definitely never had any nukes :)
icecream17: huh? do i not know infomoration?
jrke: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nuclear-weapons-by-country
jrke: US stands 2nd if data if correct
Hjax: usa and russia slowly keep reducing their nuke counts
Hjax: which is good
Joseph_Mother: aa
Joseph_Mother: lol hes madddd
Joseph_Mother: hes mad cause i insulted his weak military
Hjax: any mods feel like getting rid of this troll
Astrobytes: not technically done anything kickable yet Hjax
Astrobytes: Give him time
Uljahn: im too weak to kick him, need more nukes :(
eulerscheZahl: sqiddy kicked him already
eulerscheZahl: Joseph_Mother has been kicked by AntiSquid.
eulerscheZahl: he respawned
Astrobytes: Oh, I just joined a minute ago
Hjax: theres no rule against being toxic / distruptive?
eulerscheZahl: there is https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/contribute---help/chat-moderation
Astrobytes: If he's been at it for a while sure
eulerscheZahl: and Joseph is asking for another kick if he continues
jrke: leave him he is mad
Astrobytes: all trolls are
Hjax: looks like he broke 3 of the terms in the code of conduct
Hjax: respect the diversity of the members of the site, be polite and considerate, and no abusive / harassing behavior
Joseph_Mother: frog
eulerscheZahl: and he will stop doing so
one way or another
eulerscheZahl: toad, not frog :rage:
Illedan: Angry toad :O
Illedan: What is the ? in your about me eulerscheZahl?
eulerscheZahl: ? https://prnt.sc/unu03d
Hjax: i dont see a ?
Hjax: i see a hypnotoad gif
Illedan: https://imgur.com/c8yFO7u
eulerscheZahl: i guess the broken marslander sound
eulerscheZahl: which me browser doesn't render at all
Illedan: xD
eulerscheZahl: removed it
AntiSquid: why call me an angry frog LOL
AntiSquid: that's what his pm says
Astrobytes: lol wtf
AntiSquid: sure whatever i am angry my military is too weak
Hjax: cant even tell the difference between squids and frogs
jacek: lick them
Astrobytes: :smirk:
jrke: watch CG general leaderboard 1st is man 2nd toad 3rd hand 4th racer and 5th keyboard ;)
Hjax: ah yes, an ally of the united states, that conquered much of the world, member of nato
Hjax: definitely weak :P
Hjax: fought way more of WWII than the USA did
Hjax: super weak
Astrobytes: Well, I suppose we did have recruitment issues in recent times... :thinking: :P
jrke: The entry of USA in WWII changed the result of WWII was quite good
Hjax: it did, but we entered late, after the poor UK had been fighting on their own for quite some time
Hjax: obviously we did a lot on the pacific front, but in europe a lot of credit goes to the british
Astrobytes: Helped us out with supply lines, even before joining
icecream17: oh uk was the first one to not lose against axis (except nuetral switzerland)
Hjax: being an island helped
Astrobytes: ^
Hjax: id love to go to europe some day, but international travel is shot for the foreseeable future
Joseph_Mother: lua is the best programming language
Joseph_Mother: you cant prove me wrong
icecream17: yes i can actually
Joseph_Mother: you
Joseph_Mother: cant
icecream17: oh yeah prove it
icecream17: jk
jrke: he came again
Hjax: *opinion* you cant prove me wrong
icecream17: please stop
Joseph_Mother: what CANT you do with lua and luac
Hjax: get legend in UTTT, prove me wrong
icecream17: Prove that sqrt(2) isnt irrational?
Astrobytes: Yeah, it's a shame Hjax, so many people have lost the opportunity to experience travelling properly now
Hjax: ive traveled around north america a lot, but never outside of it
Astrobytes: Europe's great, so many countries with rich and interesting histories, landscapes, people. Very cool
Joseph_Mother: lua can print the square rootof 2
Hjax: id be somewhat afraid to travel to countries where english isnt the native language lol
icecream17: lua can't do something that is impossible.
therefore lua can't do everything
Astrobytes: Nah, it's fine. Just try to learn a few sentences and make the effort and you'll be fine
Hjax: although i dont think ive ever found a german person who doesnt speak english
Hjax: im sure they exist, but it seems like id do ok in germany
Hjax: even with no german knowledge
Astrobytes: Most Europeans speak some level of English (unless small towns/countryside) but they appreciate an effort to communicate in the native language
eulerscheZahl: i guess your would be better in the Netherlands but still be fine in Germany
Astrobytes: afk for a bit, back later
emh: I've been code golfing for a couple of days
emh: but now I am a bit stuck
emh: any good resources available?
emh: guess I found most of them by googling but if you know some secrets, please share
Hjax: if you find something let me know, my attempts to code golf on this site just made me depressed
Hjax: my best attempts are like 20 characters longer than the best for a given language
emh: that's not too bad. mine are multiples of the shortest
Hjax: and i think i know a good number of python golf tricks too
Hjax: which puzzle are you working on / what language?
emh: today was working on Temperatures
emh: in bash,ruby,python3
emh: and a bloated C one
Hjax: at least for python my gold solutions tend to make use of functions like reduce and map, with a lambda function
Hjax: golf*
Hjax: like, really lean on pythons functional programming features
emh: I used map and max in my py3 solution
emh: py3 76 chars, ruby 51 chars, bash 54 chars (invoking ruby)
emh: I tried a lot of things
emh: even touching files for each temperature hehe. using fs as dictionary.
emh: embedding temperatures in evaluated code
emh: haven't tried hard coding
emh: wonder how many people do that
emh: "fmt -1" is handy to break format into lines. tried "sort -Vd" but failed on validation
emh: wondering if there are some floating points tricks
emh: I'm in top 4% but need 2% in order to get Legend on Optimization
DuBinKa: hello
DuBinKa: how i advance to next league?
Uljahn: submit and get above the boss in ranking
Hjax: my best python3 on temperatures is 69 characters emh
Hjax: im just taking the minimum with key= a distance from 0 lambda function
Joseph_Mother: bro
emh: Hjax ok
Joseph_Mother: the best clash of code challenges are the ones where you have to make the smallest
Joseph_Mother: some languages are better than others in that field
Joseph_Mother: WAIT WAIT
DuBinKa: how i submit my solution in order to advance ?
DuBinKa: i did test in arena and play my code
DuBinKa: i won and nothing happens
DuBinKa: i feel stupid...
Hjax: test in arena is the correct button
DuBinKa: it says i am first place
Hjax: above the boss?
DuBinKa: yes
Hjax: just wait a few minutes then
DuBinKa: but nothing happens
DuBinKa: ohhhh ok lol
Hjax: you wont promote until you are done playing games
Joseph_Mother: lol i found a way to compress code and execute it
DuBinKa: compression in size challenge sounds cheesy :D
Hjax: usually you lose more than you gain
Hjax: at least in python, code compression involves like, two imports and some other stuff
xtpgtpgx: can someone help?
xtpgtpgx: i try to pass the third boss but i feel like the boss has some sort of breaks. and my pod is soo "slippery"
jacek: hm?
jacek: CSB?
xtpgtpgx: sorry?
xtpgtpgx: what
jacek: what game
xtpgtpgx: coders strike back. checkpoint game
Joseph_Mother: LOL
Joseph_Mother: oml i can gain access to the systems that check my code
Joseph_Mother: mfw
Hjax: have fun escaping the sandbox
Joseph_Mother: oh trust me i will
Astrobytes: will you now :rolling_eyes:
charlesCabage: hallo
charlesCabage: are there bots in the chat?
Hjax: theres two, but they wont come unless you call them by name
Astrobytes: thankfully
jacek: AutomatonNN is that true?
AutomatonNN: both
jacek: hmm https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/a3Vnw8/aax2DD5w_700wp_0.webp
Astrobytes: :fearful:
Hjax: how do i delete someone elses message?
Hjax: :P
charlesCabage: hjax i dont think you can do that
Astrobytes: from where Hjax?
Hjax: thatsthejoke.jpg
Astrobytes: oh ffs, I really am slow this week
Hjax: lol
charlesCabage: hey guys do you suggest beginners to do clash of code?
Astrobytes: there's a small part of me that was taken by that image that I fear will never return
Astrobytes: Sure you can try charlesCabage, depends on your current experience I suppose
jacek: i wonder how euler will like it
AntiSquid: i suggest life is too short to spend it on clash of code charlesCabage
jacek: some clashes are very easy, some clashes are very hard and wtf
charlesCabage: i am a complete beginner to programming i know a bit of js
Astrobytes: easy puzzles will most likely be best then
charlesCabage: like?
Astrobytes: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
charlesCabage: ok thx
Astrobytes: you're welcome
AntiSquid: what do you want to achieve is the question LOL
AntiSquid: for websites you don't really need to know much about algos / puzzle solving
AntiSquid: you can be first on CG, it won't make you a better web dev is all i am saying
Hjax: i would say its hard to get highly ranked on codingame without at least somewhat solid fundamentals
Hjax: and codingame can be good practice
Hjax: it wont force you to write good code, but it will help you learn how to think about code and problem solving
jacek: im not sure if i want to hire someone whos expert at codegolfing...
Astrobytes: :grin:
Westicles: Phew, 17 down 10 to go
eulerscheZahl: what are you playing?
Westicles: Just plowing through all the languages
eulerscheZahl: ah
eulerscheZahl: do you abuse the system and solve the no-brainer puzzles?
TBali: good it was not bottles af beer
Westicles: yep, you'd have to be crazy to do it for real
eulerscheZahl: that would be 99 in total, wouldn't it?
Astrobytes: well, those 33cl bottles are easy to get through TBali
Joseph_Mother: heres a tutorial on how to win all the smallest code gamemodes
Joseph_Mother: use lua
Joseph_Mother: get a lua 5.3 environment (the one the game uses) and then
Joseph_Mother: create your program
Joseph_Mother: dump its bytecode in your own environment
Joseph_Mother: load bytecode using load('bytecodehere')()
Joseph_Mother: boom
Joseph_Mother: done
Joseph_Mother: you can also possibly escape the sandbox using this method as OP_LOADK doesnt actually have any boundary checks
eulerscheZahl: that doesn't qualify for a kick but i'll get you
Hjax: *euler angerly hangs his hammer back on the wall*
Westicles: the crazy guy seems to actually know some stuff
Joseph_Mother: i only knowsome stuff about lua
Joseph_Mother: i know everything about lua cause its my real love
jacek: aww why theres no Luna language
Joseph_Mother: loadk doesnt check what you push onto the stack
Joseph_Mother: if you look at a lbi made in lua you can see
Joseph_Mother: [1] = function(instruction) -- LOADK
stack[instruction.A] = constants[instruction.Bx].data;
end,
Joseph_Mother: no checks
Hjax: ok put your money where your mouth is, go get #1 on temperatures with lua :P
Joseph_Mother: wym "temperatures"
Hjax: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/temperature-code-golf
eulerscheZahl: damn, you won that race
Hjax: :P
Astrobytes: wasn't even gonna try lol
Joseph_Mother: yeah but
Hjax: i will accept #1 on the lua language leaderboard
Joseph_Mother: if you wanted to win every small code game you can just dump bytecode and execute
Joseph_Mother: and maybe
Joseph_Mother: dont use tons of strings tho
Hjax: ok show me
eulerscheZahl: that bytecode also needs some bytes to be stored
Astrobytes: We're waiting
jacek: that 'bytecode' thing, could it store NN weights? :thinking:
Joseph_Mother: i dont have a proper lua 5.3 environment on my school chromebook
eulerscheZahl: good times when the top solution was 9 chars
Joseph_Mother: https://saelo.github.io/posts/pwning-lua-through-load.html
Hjax: dont link a github, go get #1 on the leaderboard
Joseph_Mother: i have a lua c environement setup on repl but its 5.1 and theres bytecode changes between versions
Astrobytes: man, such a 1337 skiddie
Joseph_Mother: i mean
Joseph_Mother: im not a skiddie cause i didnt copy anyone
eulerscheZahl: you copy the compiler output
Joseph_Mother: copy it from a file
Joseph_Mother: cause you wont really be able to do much if you copy it from an output line
Joseph_Mother: i tried earlier didnt work so
eulerscheZahl: you say potato i say potato
TBali: it would be nice if we could filter out from the golf leaderboard the system('code-in-perl') type of solutions and the hard coded ones.
Astrobytes: Hey euler, Joseph can be your teammate on the reply CTF...
TBali: I would be interested in the minimum length of the true, generic solutions in my language
Westicles: Seems simple enough to put in 100 validators to get around the hardcoding at least
eulerscheZahl: i'd rather ask TBali or Westicles
eulerscheZahl: 24h capture the flag contest on october 8th-9th, anyone interested?
AntiSquid: https://imgflip.com/i/4gaa64
eulerscheZahl: maximum team size: 4
for now it's me and illedan, maybe a colleague of him too
eulerscheZahl: clean coal
AntiSquid: would have liked to participate, but i am working that day
eulerscheZahl: on a saturday?
eulerscheZahl: starts friday evening
TBali: I am not good enough in this to help such team
jacek: Caturday*
AntiSquid: did i get the dates wrong?
Drakkhonian: yo
eulerscheZahl: maybe, i don't know your working schedule
Drakkhonian: what does Community success rate means?
Westicles: Not me, I don't know much programming beyond the C++ STL
eulerscheZahl: not even a coding contest
eulerscheZahl: it's 5 categories: coding, crypto, binary, misc, security
eulerscheZahl: and 5 tasks per category
AntiSquid: ok got dates wrong
Westicles: get the Lua guy
eulerscheZahl: binary: you are given a binary and have to debug it. no bit masks
AntiSquid: ya lua guy jump in
Astrobytes: Already suggested that Westicles :P
eulerscheZahl: i'd rather not
Astrobytes: :D
AntiSquid: i am not sure about the rules but you can probably still get a random 4th on the website no?
eulerscheZahl: i can compete with a team of 2 as well
eulerscheZahl: but i have more spots to fill
eulerscheZahl: just don't expect us to code in PHP
AntiSquid: more? i thought it's just 1 empty spot? isn't it illedan + colleague + euler ?
eulerscheZahl: colleague with a ?
eulerscheZahl: so 1-2 spots
AntiSquid: "illedan, maybe a colleague of him too" i missed the maybe
eulerscheZahl: or i drop illedan and fight against him and his colleague :D
Illedan: -.-
Astrobytes: hehehe
eulerscheZahl: oh, there he is
eulerscheZahl: any news about your colleague?
AntiSquid: hey i jump in if you want, i am not working that weekend
Illedan: I'll ask him.
eulerscheZahl: ok, squid is in
eulerscheZahl:
https://challenges.reply.com/tamtamy/challenges/category/cybersecurity
AntiSquid: team name?
TBali: how will you split the gaming laptop?
TBali: by brute-force?
Illedan: CPU for euler, screen for me
AntiSquid: i dont care about the laptop
eulerscheZahl: i have a saw
Westicles: endless rancor over the laptop
Astrobytes: TBali :tomato:
Astrobytes: :P
AntiSquid: it's about 1500 £ laptop afaik
AntiSquid: so no deal breaker
TBali: miss! But now look at my wall, what you have done
Illedan: :not-for-the-money-with-wings:
eulerscheZahl: i had a look at last year, we won't get far
Illedan: ^
AntiSquid: and that's 1st place only i mean seriously the hardcore teams are more likely to get it
Westicles: You'll never beat the chinese. teams of 1000
TBali: I can contribute to your team my Caeser cipher decoder in PHP.
TBali: Use it responsibly
Astrobytes: jacek can bring the double rot13
TBali: :)
TBali: I had a rot13 in CoC. PHP has rot13()
AntiSquid: accept me and invite Automaton2000 eulerscheZahl
Automaton2000: i cant figure it out
Astrobytes: welp, there's your answer to that!
eulerscheZahl: automaton is useless
eulerscheZahl: and we still don't know if Automaton2020 is from dbdr
Astrobytes: where is dbdr anyway? Didn't see him recently
eulerscheZahl: not gone long enough to be worried
jacek: hes covered in rust
eulerscheZahl: saw him on fr 1 or 2 days ago
Astrobytes: no, not that long
eulerscheZahl: but where's zarthax?
Astrobytes: lol jacek
Astrobytes: Hm, he was quite busy last he was on, with teaching and stuff
eulerscheZahl: and why is that troll castle nonsense always pending?
jacek: that sokoban?
jacek: ban it
eulerscheZahl: sokoban is broken :(
Astrobytes: JBM's Infinity Troll
eulerscheZahl: sokobad
Astrobytes: what's up with it?
eulerscheZahl: won't load any testcases
jacek: it has bad author
Illedan: Create a lot of contributions as I did with SR :D
eulerscheZahl: i filed a bug report
Astrobytes: ah just looked
eulerscheZahl: you also had problems with testcase updates Illedan?
Astrobytes: he had a zillion testcases iirc
eulerscheZahl: i know
eulerscheZahl: but did the existing ones update when he changed the input format?
Illedan: Yeah
Illedan: I had to create new contributions
eulerscheZahl: i replaced the testcases and it's still loading the one ones
eulerscheZahl: and that's a bug you'd usually report instead of creating new contributions and leaving the user behind you equally puzzled
Astrobytes: Didn't you mention it at the time on discord Illedan? To staff I mean
Westicles: the staff are all focused on the Logo language rollout
eulerscheZahl: you turn into a 2nd jacek :D
Astrobytes: logo, lol
Astrobytes: first used that on a BBC Micro in primary school
Bobbadillio: Ooh, what's the Logo language like?
Astrobytes: Old
eulerscheZahl: like SPS, isn't it?
TBali: :turtle:
Astrobytes: All I remember is PENUP and PENDOWN or something like that
TBali: fun method to teach recursion to 8 graders
TBali: not sure it is used byond that
Astrobytes: That's around the last time I saw it in the UK system yeah
eulerscheZahl: wait, didn't we make the same logo confusion before?
TBali: I found 7 logo sources in my repo
eulerscheZahl: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(SPS)
TBali: total 7k
Astrobytes: you did euler yes
Astrobytes: Siemens on the brain :P
eulerscheZahl: i learned SPS programming about 10 years ago...
Bobbadillio: I'm just sitting here, excited about const fn improvements in Rust :D
eulerscheZahl: never really enjoyed it
Astrobytes: Doesn't seem particularly fun to program for
TBali: Is it some rudimentary Raspbery PI?
TBali: What is it used for mainly?
Astrobytes: "Example applications are lighting control, roller shutter control or simple automatio"
Astrobytes: n
TBali: your German is good
Westicles: stuxnet
TBali: 'lighting control' as in 'torn on the light' seems a bit overkill for me, I use a flip
TBali: *turn
Astrobytes: ah yeah, stuxnet targets PLCs
Astrobytes: TBali: google translate is reasonable
TBali: Actually I speak German a little
Bobbadillio: Ich spreche auch ein bisschen Deutsch
Astrobytes: Most Hungarians I know speak a little or more German actually
jacek: Hande hoch
Astrobytes: *Hände hoch
TBali: yep, popular in school , 2nd after English
AntiSquid: schwaenzchen in die hoeh
TBali: Let's stop this or euler will logout
AntiSquid: mine was a joke . automaton2000 gets it
Automaton2000: there is a bit too
jacek: https://img.memecdn.com/oh-schmetterling_o_1154579.jpg
TBali: Coming back to the true and only logo, I found my 5-liner code (date of file 1992)
TBali: Try to figure out what it does!
TBali: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/39477b25-3523-4928-a1f4-74148c28e4de
Astrobytes: CG pastebin's been broken all week
TBali: TO FA :M :SZ
TBali: FD :M
TBali: IF :SZ > 0 THEN LT 60 FA :M / 2 :SZ - 1 RT 120 FA :M / 2 :SZ - 1 LT 60
TBali: BACK :M
TBali: END
TBali: Thats all
Westicles: it draws a flutterby
jacek: fluttershy?
Astrobytes: SCHMETTERLING!
jacek: :scream:
AntiSquid: starcraft 2 unit ?
AntiSquid: zerg unit i mean
TBali: I need to install a logo to try it out
TBali: Or wait for CG?
TBali: Or there must be online sandbox for this
TBali: andbox Logos
Make a Sandbox logo online. Enter your business name and create a stunning Sandbox logo tailored just for you. Try it free!
TBali: google should learn a bit more NLP
Astrobytes: It draws, and turns in some way conditionally, repeatedly
TBali: https://www.calormen.com/jslogo/
TBali: But it won't run, different logo subversion
Astrobytes: wait, no repeat
TBali: recursive
TBali: it draws branches. 60 and 120 degrees are the turns
Astrobytes: Ah yeah FA
TBali: SZ is the depth
TBali: FA = tree in Hungarian
TBali: M is the height of first branch
AntiSquid: nem tudom
TBali: halves at each level
Astrobytes: yes, makes more sense now
TBali: LT left run RT right turn
Astrobytes: yeah I remember those
TBali: this code is 28y old
Astrobytes: FD is forward
AntiSquid: so where did those 28 years go ?
AntiSquid: i always ask myself similar questions
TBali: that's a dead end
TBali: I plan to call my life recursively
Astrobytes: :smirk:
AntiSquid: it's the start of being more analytical about the data you've gathered
TBali: but maybe with some branching at key IFs
Astrobytes: You're not in World chat often TBali
Astrobytes: Usually see you on discord and the forum
TBali: I still don't understand what is the difference in goal of this chat and discord?
TBali: I don't like this small size chatbox
TBali: or do you use some dedicated client?
Astrobytes: this is more immediate for some, discord is more permanent (though dbdr has a nice chatlog for here now)
Astrobytes: Yeah you can use an external client
Astrobytes: details at the bottom of the page:
https://www.codingame.com/faq
TBali: I am not good at multitasking. If I code, I don't what a chatbox on the side. If I chat I cannot really code.
Astrobytes: ?disableChat
TBali: I push to right, that is by default closed for me
Astrobytes: at the end of your URL
TBali: or my first click
Astrobytes: yeah, ?disableChat removes it completely
Astrobytes: So you can have another window where it's open
Astrobytes: Well, it's what I do if I'm coding. Chat etc on one monitor, code on the other
TBali: ok, will look at it, Though too much chat is a time sinkhole. (No offence meant)
Astrobytes: No it's true. When I want to concentrate I disable, close the chat and crack on
Astrobytes: Since becoming mod though I try to keep it open in case I'm needed
TBali: have to take care for your ban quota...
Astrobytes: *disable/close
Astrobytes: I've only banned 1 user
TBali: :)
AntiSquid: you never know when Automaton2000 might spam the chat with one nasty message
Automaton2000: and there was no way to see a replay of my bot?
TBali: is it the same code as in one of the solo puzzle?
TBali: bringing up garbage from earlier lines?
Astrobytes: Isn't it NN that comes out with the offensive stuff sometimes? One of them said c*ckface or something once
TBali: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/code-your-own-automaton2000-step-1
Automaton2000: i have a bunch of bugs
AntiSquid: kinky chat bots
Astrobytes: TBali:
https://www.codingame.com/blog/markov-chain-automaton2000/
Automaton2000: too lazy to do that ?
Astrobytes: haha
TBali: Thanks I will read this (didn't notice earlier, although I did read some blog articles)
Astrobytes: There's links to the github repos too if you're interested
Astrobytes: (in the article)
Astrobytes: I'm out for tonight, goodnight all
TBali: wow, just read the article, very interesting
TBali: bye
AntiSquid: bye? where you going
AntiSquid: CG chat is hotel california
Joseph_Mother: lol
Joseph_Mother: i wonder if anyone has used my load() method
Joseph_Mother: im at home now so i can do it on my own rq
AntiSquid: wow, fantastic baby
Joseph_Mother: im not ur baby
Joseph_Mother: im 15 you're going to jail
AntiSquid: don't flatter yourself, nobody was calling you baby, was quoting a song you uncultured swine
Joseph_Mother: sorry im not some frog bro
Joseph_Mother: lol i think the ide they use preformats text or something so you cant just paste bytecode
TBali: just trying to set up pidging client
TBali: is this the #general room?
TBali: or World?
emh: World
JBM: Astrobytes: I'm innocent until proven otherwise
TBali: getting roomlist takes several minutes. Lots of coc room...
TBali: I thought it hang
TBali: I tried to use JBM's pdging guide from 2016 I found in forum... :-)
TBali: *pidgin
TBali: /me
JBM: accept no imitation
2ndwolf: ASCII ART: Why are the tests expecting my code to comply to specifications that were not described
2ndwolf: AKA: How am I supposed to get 100% without the proper instructions
LastRick: Yep, sounds like an ASCII art problem.
TBali: @JBM by the way just recently found your blog/webpage - I liked the usergraph analysis article a lot
2ndwolf: I'm not alone then?
JBM: great!
LastRick: Heavens no. Those puzzles are maddening. And I say that as a huge fan.
JBM: what specific instructions would be missing?
emh: if all else fails you can ask a cart to lobe them. those ASCII art problem
emh: *emh is trying to be an automaton
JBM: AutomatonNN: tell him about it
AutomatonNN: already had the problem
emh: hehe
LastRick: hahah
TBali: hm, something is not right. I seem to joined to #world with pidgin but I am alone there
TBali: same for #general
2ndwolf: not sure what output the Lorem ipsum input should give.... the description clearly says that everything that isn't [a-zA-Z] should be replaced with a ? but I have a feeling it's expecting me to allow spaces
TBali: Pdgin: tried also general channel. 4 people there. but not this.
TBali: Hello from Pidgin. So this is it world and not #world. Sorry for the noise I caused
JBM: tell us about it
AntiSquid: ##world ?
Hjax: ###world!
2ndwolf: ok I figured it out, range problem X_X
JBM: not enough meta
JosephAouad: I need help wiith a code
JBM: who doesn't
aaravm4: ^
AntiSquid: i need a dollar
JBM: (23:13:02) JBM: who doesn't
LastRick: ^
2ndwolf: I'll give you one if you give me 2
2ndwolf: it's my get rich quick scheme
JBM: *I* need more beer
JBM: yes i'm begging for it
Schwase: if a contribution is rejected does it get reverted to WIP? or Private?
Schwase: is the point of it that there were 3 people who rejected the puzzle before there were 3 were accepted it and thats how it can control the contributions potential to be approved?
JBM: it's reverted to draft AFAIUI
Schwase: makes sense
Schwase: you really think that "muddle" is ok?
JBM: i do
JBM: but cue the latest 45' of heated debating on #fr
Schwase: i think that separating the strings with spaces as well as the length end x's might be kind of complicated
JBM: i don't think it's perfect
JBM: but i think it's do-able in a 15' clash
JBM: i usually wouldn't approve just because of that
Schwase: i feel bad about the fact that people would actually vote to rejected twice before even a single vote to approve happened
Schwase: id rather give feedback than rejected
JBM: but the two refusers are well-known for "refusing as a rescindable warning that this won't go as is"
JBM: so a counter-approve is par for the course
JBM: yup, so would i
Schwase: the testcases could definitely be improved
Schwase: all of them have spaces
Schwase: which is tough
JBM: yup, that's not helping
JBM: neither is the binary encoding
Schwase: especially when so many string manipulation puzzles require you to maintain spaces rather than modifying with some ascii adjustment
JBM: the mild #fr consensus is 1) decimal 2) all lowercase 3) make x #
Schwase: also the +"x" isnt intuitive to me
JBM: yeah what can i say
Schwase: ohhh
JBM: i'm just off hamming codes, i didn't even notice the binary
Schwase: i didnt realize theres other channels
Schwase: binary is unecessary for sure though
JBM: as i said there, i went (1) WTF (2) WTF (3) WTF (4) oooooh, what if... (1 again) ok I got it
Schwase: yeah that is the fun of CoC after all
Schwase: reverse at least
JBM: but understood in <5, solved in <10
Schwase: yeah its just that the code is easier than comprehension
JBM: so even if not perfect, refusals not in order
Schwase: one sec im going to run the translate extension and read the french channel
JBM: good luck
JBM: ^^'
Schwase: a lot of english for fr haha
Schwase: i thought that the extension was just doing a really good job
JBM: yeah that much english used to be a problem with one of our beloved MKderators
JBM: now it seems he's still enabled, just not there
JBM: which ought to relieve most tensions
Schwase: yeah thatd be a shame, taking exception to people speaking a language
Schwase: unless no one is responding and they keep messaging out of the native channel language i see no reason why itd be much of an issue
JBM: he's rather loquatious
JBM: how's that even spelled
Schwase: loquacious
Schwase: with a c
JBM: yeah, so says wiktionary
JBM: even got a page for me: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loquatious
Schwase: ha
Schwase: ha
JBM: couldn't invent it
Schwase: have you seen https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5489b2f8990368370991337cec5e3010abd5
JBM: at first (title-) glance, this looks like an optimal urinal
JBM: (furtest-typo)
Schwase: ah yes, missed that one
Schwase: many missing articles/prepositions, i dont mind helping edit those kinds of things out of a contribution
Schwase: it was hard not to recommend that he looks at the optimal urinal problem to see how they describe the rules since it is as succinct as possible in the statement
JBM: "men relieve themselves in exactly 8 seconds"
Schwase: i personally loved the optimal urinal problem, a pure classic
JBM: woman spotted
Schwase: HA
JBM: eww
JBM: time to pee, time to move
JBM: this needs an actual example
Schwase: im creeped out by the word "splashes"
JBM: lol
Schwase: A group of physicists from Georgia Tech went to Zoo Atlanta to watch animals urinating. To their surprise, they discovered that regardless of size, most mammals urinate for about the same amount of time (21 seconds), despite large differences in bladder volume, a phenomenon they term the “Law of Urination”.
Schwase: your puzzle is unrealistic
Schwase: also his original puzzle was "men take 9 seconds to pee" , men "TELEPORT" to empty urinals in 0 seconds one after the other
Schwase: he cut corners to fix the problem and its not a complete way
Schwase: he probably did 9 seconds because its the largest single digit number
Schwase: yeah that makes sense
Schwase: oh man look at his solution though :(
JBM: the current pending one?
Schwase: yeah earlier today
Schwase: same test cases
Schwase: he didnt even fix the stub generator, he just changed the input description to match the test cases
Schwase: i still cant get over the fact that he put this up as a CoC puzzle
JBM: seems a bit much
JBM: but i'm a bit too drunk to honestly give it a try
Schwase: its not hard
JBM: what's too much for me right now is:
Schwase: just take your code from https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/the-urinal-problem and plug it in with numbers until the queue is empty
Schwase: and add 8 seconds
JBM: people queue, and take 1s to move to a urinal
Schwase: 1 being every turn
Schwase: simple
Schwase: if they can go
Schwase: its the same as a teleport in 0 seconds and pee in 9 seconds
JBM: without a word on whether all "available" go at once, or one at a time
Schwase: it does though
Schwase: it says "one after another"
JBM: where?
JBM: that's not saying much
Schwase: i agree
JBM: two people in line walking towards two available same-oriented urinals are "one after the other"
JBM: with 0s delay
Schwase: yes
JBM: so...
JBM: "wouldn't approve unless it got abusive refusals"
Schwase: it should be that the man at the front of the queue takes 1 second to move to a urinal and the rest move up in queue
Schwase: not even
Schwase: i wouldnt touch this as a CoC
JBM: "and the rest of the chckboxes", obviously
Schwase: cough cough solvable in under 5 minutes cough
KrishnanShankar: What are you talking about?
JBM: "got own working solution" and the invisible "it's reasonably derived from the statement" one
JBM: the sorry state of the clash/puzzle contributions KrishnanShankar
KrishnanShankar: What???
JBM: tell us about it
Schwase: krishnan, the way puzzles are created for this site is by a user approval/rejection system
Schwase: where a user can submitted a "contribution" to be added to the different modes on CG
Schwase: with the exception of a handful of professionally developed and sponsored puzzles of course
JBM: "professionally developed" LOL
JBM: like that makes them any better
Schwase: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Schwase: to be fair, paid content and software usually is better than free
Schwase: because someone cared enough to pay someone to make it
JBM: "2% of these puzzles happen to have been paid for --- would you guess which ones?"
Schwase: and that person cared about getting paid
JBM: (spoiler: no)
JBM: you can only tell them apart because
JBM: well this is actually funny
JBM: they're worse because, as cg-official, they can't be edited by the community moderators
JBM: so they remain with their flaws forever
Schwase: i was able to get reasonably close on a first attempt. Just would need to work out for a few edge cases and extraneous considerations but the general process is simple
Schwase: not at all doable even in 15 minutes as far as i would care
Schwase: i would just leave the clash
JBM: close to what?
Schwase: close to 100%
Schwase: for the urinal contribution
Schwase: to be fair, it did take like 10 minutes but i didnt 100% it and i have prior experience with that exact problem which isnt a reasonable advantage to allow in a clash IMO
JBM: moderation's eternal problem
Schwase: actually not true
JBM: pray tell
Schwase: Everyone is a winner, even if 0% of the tests work :D
Schwase: cant argue with that
Schwase: "You can look up stuff. You can take your time. You shall have fun. Everyone is a winner, even if 0% of the tests work :D — SaintPlaysThings
JBM: oh i read that recently
JBM: that's part of the CoC description
Schwase: the description is just really inaccurate
Schwase: Clash of Code is a game to improve your coding efficiency by solving short programming problems with other people, at the same time. Players share their solution at the end of a game to help other players improve their coding skills.
Schwase: "with other people"
Schwase: well "at the same time"
JBM: players share?
Schwase: also a big *SOME* players
Schwase: would be an improvement
JBM: yeah, my clashzero bot begs to differ
Schwase: :O
Schwase: i once had someone complain
Schwase: because one of the CG Lvl 7 bots
Schwase: was "always finishing first"
Schwase: and never sharing their code
JBM: oh that sucks
Schwase: yeah i am curious to see actually what types of code they write
Schwase: especially their ruby would be interesting to me
JBM: afair they only ever submit code that was published before
Schwase: ohhh
Schwase: that makes sense
JBM: so they really don't "write" anything
Schwase: yeah
Schwase: shouldve seen that one
JBM: but it *is* a bit contrived they wouldn't re-publish
Schwase: so theyre just pace cars
Schwase: err
Schwase: variable pace cars
Schwase: hooray RNG
Schwase: default 0,0 is top left, what would 0,0,0 be? upper-most top left? im just thinking coordinates of a cube. Probably top left back corner ye?
MadKnight: Schwase could be both
MadKnight: could be even bottom-left-something
JBM: a wild mk appears
Schwase: i mean 0,0 COULD be whatever you wanted it to be
JBM: how is ur csb mk
JBM: we missed u
MadKnight: Automaton2000 ban jbm
Automaton2000: now i need to implement it
JBM: how rude
MadKnight: true, what a rude low trolling jbm
JBM: what have u been up to
JBM: long time no c++
MadKnight: Schwase in games they usually use bottom-left
MadKnight: and sometimes they swap Y with Z
JBM: as long as they don't go POV-like left-handed
Schwase: in math and physics XYZ is Z up/down Y left/right X in/out
MadKnight: use any that u like Schwase
MadKnight: most of them are the same just from different field of view
Schwase: 0 -> 8 = 8-8 -> 8-0
Schwase: easy adjustemnt
Schwase: just pick one and stick with it
Schwase: got it
MadKnight: pick the one from UE4
Schwase: thats what i was describing earlier
Schwase: z up
Schwase: x towards you
Schwase: y to the right
Schwase: "left-handed" isnt really accurate
Schwase: because it satisfies the right hand rule
MadKnight: oh, have u tried UE4 ?
Schwase: no i just looked it up
Schwase: theres pictures
Schwase: and it says "z-up left handed coordinate system"
MadKnight: and why did u suddenly want to learn 3d ?
Schwase: i think that unity is the same way though
Schwase: making a 3D chess pathfinding classic puzzle :ok_hand:
Schwase: err refining and reuploading one
Schwase: it took making a simple puzzle before i understood that less is really more
MadKnight: oh and how are u gonna render stuff ?
Schwase: its just a puzzle not a game
Schwase: you brought up engines not me
MadKnight: no i'm talking about drawing stuff in a puzzle
MadKnight: or are u not gonna ?
MadKnight: just a single input -> straight up answer ?
MadKnight: is it not like a game-type puzzle?
Schwase: correct, just a pathfinding puzzle
Schwase: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5367949a948b4e1b79fff2bf93a2251d682e
Schwase: this is the previous version
Schwase: i dont plan on altering the original version
Schwase: i am just making a new contribution from scratch
WorksOnMyMachineKEKW: is there a way to add a timeout for the validator in a clash of code contribution?
WorksOnMyMachineKEKW: for code that takes too long to run
jrke: its automatically done by CG
jrke: it times out if it takes too long to response
qstommyshu: wow
WorksOnMyMachineKEKW: @jrke how long does it take for a test to timeout?
jrke: never checked that,no idea for that
srinivasTheDeveloper: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1395757b4b54d45f7aede1fefd65a57faca96ac
srinivasTheDeveloper: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1395768785c006bdca22ba122a5bc19005b8d52
Rodrigo_the_coder: writeln
