Key_Zhao: hi
WINWINWIN: Hey Key_Zhao
thibpat: hello, I'm starting to stream Platinum Rift 2 => https://twitch.tv/thibpat
jrke: hey thibpat im joining
jacek: :tada:
Key_Zhao: :smiley_cat:
BlackGarlic: ?
BlackGarlic: ?
JErin: hello
JErin: is anybody here?
DarkScene: hi is anybody alive
DarkScene: i have trouble with IDE , wrote solution correctly but show this message "Timeout: your program did not write to the standard output in due time."
WINWINWIN: Solution may be correct, but if you take more than 50ms, it will timeout
WINWINWIN: Test it offline adding a print statement for end time and see what happends
DarkScene: how to do that offline ?
WINWINWIN: Are you doing a puzzle or a bot program?
WINWINWIN: if its a puzzle, just copy paste the puzzle test case
DarkScene: puzzles
DarkScene: where is possible to test offline ? Recommend please.
WINWINWIN: which language?
DarkScene: python3
WINWINWIN: For a temporary run,
WINWINWIN: https://www.programiz.com/python-programming/online-compiler/
WINWINWIN: paste your code, then click on run
WINWINWIN: after that paste the test case line by line
WINWINWIN: And, add this to the beginning of the code:
WINWINWIN: import time
WINWINWIN: start = time.time()
WINWINWIN: And, at the end:
WINWINWIN: print((time.time() - start) // 1000)
DarkScene: output that line line > for i in range(8):
DarkScene: as error
DarkScene: but that line was ok at start on codingame at all
WINWINWIN: you cannot copy paste all at once...
WINWINWIN: copy paste line by line
DarkScene: why is so ?
Dan4Life: .
SomJiam: Yo
Apichat: HI Somjiam
AdamEPITECH: hey
cegprakash: https://youtu.be/k3S5bHEcmeg?t=385
jacek: mhm
MuratToprak: oh i couldnt understand anything can anybody hel pme
MuratToprak: ok done
struct: cegprakash when next stream?
Deeluxe: Hello, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f8a2cf51-99f5-4919-9c44-fdd0c1c46759
DarkScene: how it can be pinging leads to zero packet received to this website ? I have no wonder for error like this Timeout: your program did not write to the standard output in due time.
DarkScene: i did that pinging on cmd
Astrobytes: pinging the website is not related to your code timing out
Astrobytes: You have either exceeded the time limit or you have printed your answer incorrectly.
DarkScene: related , because after refresh brings other errors
DarkScene: on same code
Astrobytes: Timeout: *your program* did not write to the standard output in due time
MuratToprak: I really leader on Wood1??
DarkScene: i have that problem and no solution even if code is corected on youtube was video with answer and i put it and post error : Timeout: your program did not write to the standard output in due time.
struct: where?
DarkScene: the descent puzzle makes such errors
struct: language?
DarkScene: english
struct: programming languagfef
struct: language*
DarkScene: python3
struct: put code here ill check
DarkScene: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1c56b6bd-a89d-40ba-97b1-a0bce2bd5767
DarkScene: i hope you can view it.
struct: you misspell height
struct: you put height = heigh
struct: also it should only be height = mountain_h
Astrobytes: And fix your indentation
DarkScene: i fixed but still dont work for me
Astrobytes: Paste your code again
DarkScene: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6f11e45d-3313-41c5-bff4-96092f372e1f
Astrobytes: It's your indentation, as I said
DarkScene: yes
Hjax: ouch that indentation
Astrobytes: after you use while, for, or if, the next line must be indented with a tab
Astrobytes: Your code is not indented correctly
struct: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3a7f9b59-e1f5-4126-ab3d-84bfcd9badcf
Astrobytes: Well, I was trying to avoid doing it for him but... :P
Hjax: thanks struct, my eyes arent bleeding anymore
struct: I updated ui a bit
struct: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/843257e808c280174462ae480c45d0629921f7
Hjax: that is one thing i like about people learning python as a first language
struct: Added lines for debug toggle
Hjax: it forces good indentation habits
Astrobytes: Yeah, in that respect it is good I agree
struct: Can you see both lines astro?
struct: Im not sure blue can be seen easily for some colorblind people
Astrobytes: Yeah can see it fine
struct: thanks
Astrobytes: If one line was a light purple and one was blue I'd have trouble ;)
struct: UI looks good enough right?
Astrobytes: Yea, I like the debug lines, good work man
Hjax: got to all caps the stuff in the settings
Astrobytes: ^ yeah
Astrobytes: Nice of Random Python Guy to thank us all eh
Hjax: game ui looks good though ^_^
struct: I will only stop adding multies one I get puzzle of the week
struct: once *
Astrobytes: Never stop struct, never stop :)
Astrobytes: Think of all those sad little board games out there, just wishing someone would port them to CG
struct: oh no default replay in Yavalath
struct: doesnt show pictures anymore :(
Astrobytes: SDK update thing?
struct: One was my removed account
DarkScene: i have fixed indentation but still problem exist
Astrobytes: Paste your code again
struct: I guess automaton2000 pic link was changed
Automaton2000: legends of code and magic
DarkScene: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2e5a0480-2041-4ce5-8eb9-7894ddf0693b
struct: ah it did, it wasnt this picture
struct: the if is not indented
Hjax: your indentation is still incorrect DarkScene
struct: AutomatonNN hi
AutomatonNN: okk why the code is still only what i don't want
Astrobytes: The if needs to be in line with the mountain_h line
Astrobytes: You have an extra tab
DarkScene: i have fixed now it
DarkScene: and game works as should be
Astrobytes: Just remember that for every loop or condition, everything after it must be indented by 1 tab
Astrobytes: You'll get used to it soon
DarkScene: can i remove comments as code in codegaming ?
ZombieSkull_c262: It's a bit annoying that you are limited to the coding options but at least it helps thinks in the most simplistic way
ZombieSkull_c262: yeah you can
Uljahn: the only thing you shouldn't touch is inputs
Hjax: do the best temperatures submissions hard code the test cases?
struct: Important update submited
struct: Hjax I have no clue what they do
struct: Some just run bash code
Hjax: i feel like ive spent too much time on the code golf problems and i only get things im not very satisfied with
Hjax: what makes bash such a good code golf language? i havent really used it
struct: I'm not sure, I don't know bash
Hjax: like someone did power of thor in 58 characters, thats less than half the size of my submission
struct: I know that feeling
struct: I have 93 chars solution in js and first is 56
struct: on power of thor you never need to go north
Hjax: .......
Hjax: really?
struct: yeah
Hjax: thats hilarious
struct: This warning was not a thing before was it "Warning: your code did not read all available input before printing an instruction, your outputs will not be synchronized with the game's turns and unexpected behaviour may occur."
Astrobytes: I've been getting that all day
Astrobytes: But randomly
Astrobytes: As in, I was definitely still reading the available input
struct: I think they are touching chat too
struct: it messes a bit once i open it in a new window
struct: on same window*P
Astrobytes: Hm, chat's been OK for me so far
struct: it works fine, but when I open ide, it will show me only some messages, then refresh and show all again
struct: Hjax you have done temperatures too right?
Scarfield: i got that message yesterday struct, when i was using the wrong link
Hjax: yeah ive done temperatures, im like 20 characters off of the best python submission
Hjax: temperatures would be so much easier if you didnt have to print 0 if you get no temperatures
struct: I have 3 chars more than best javsascript
struct: with js
struct: but i never found how to reduce
Hjax: i just add the first input*9 to my list of strings to sort
Hjax: because 111111111 is greater than the biggest possible input
Hjax: but im sure theres a better way to do it
struct: I use sort
DarkScene: is codingame good for beginners ?
Matrix007: ohn is a farmer, and he is very smart. He observed that the amount of corn he gets in a year is equal to the sum of the amounts that he got in the last 3 years except, of course, his first 3 years as a good farmer. So given a year N and T0, T1 and T2, where Ti is the amount he gets on year i, output the amount of corn he will get in the year N mod 1000000007. can anyone understand this
Matrix007: sry
Matrix007: for the long copy paste
Uljahn: DarkScene: CG is good for practice
Hjax: Matrix007 your problem sounds like the tribonacci sequence, but i dont understand the mod big at the end
Hjax: mod bit*
Astrobytes: Something to do with integer overflow prevention
Hjax: oh, i read it as taking the mod of the year, not the mod of the result
Hjax: that makes sense
Matrix007: well thanks
Astrobytes: Yeah that's how I read it first time through too
duy_e: hi ! i have a question , can I redo the problem that I didn't done bẻoe?
duy_e: i mean before
Astrobytes: Puzzle or clash?
duy_e: clash
duy_e: clash
Astrobytes: duy_e No, but you can search for it here if you remember the statement/name of it and solve it in your own time
http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
duy_e: oh! thank you so much
Astrobytes: You're welcome
struct: https://i.imgur.com/gq22L4o.png
struct: :')
eulerscheZahl: get rekt
struct: I should finish statement today
struct: I don't think I need to change anything else in the game
MSmits: maybe an anti-fox handicap?
eulerscheZahl: but you want to farm upvotes
struct: fox already had ai
struct: from 1990
MSmits: i know
MSmits: saw it
MSmits: its cool
MSmits: ttyl getting out of train
struct: cya
eulerscheZahl: wow, that AI is older than me :o
struct: Yeah, same
struct: I wonder how strong it is
eulerscheZahl: hard to tell with 10 games in demo contributions
struct: also most of bots are random
struct: so there is that
struct: The downside of giving legal actions
eulerscheZahl: but where is anisquid with D?
eulerscheZahl: i forgot the t :/
struct: Havent seen him in a while
struct: also where is tri c trac ai
Astrobytes: hey, mine isn't random
eulerscheZahl: first move?
struct: ^
eulerscheZahl: or last?
Astrobytes: sorted, and both, depending on id
eulerscheZahl: and where is thunderbird?
Astrobytes: good point, haven't seen him for months now
eulerscheZahl: online on discord
Astrobytes: Not much time for CG I guess
struct: I need to start hiring someone to write the statements
struct: Also I think I should start writing default ais
struct: Or do you think this is not needed?
struct: All my default ais are random seed, print rand.next
Hjax: oooh rank 40 in pr2
Hjax: starting to get somewhere
Pooshlmer: A starting framework would definitely encourage participation
darkhorse64: waiting for your PM
darkhorse64: I did not spend much time on my pr2 bot. The bulk of it is 30 LOC and I am 140th with it. Previous version was a straight dump of my PR1 bot. It's only know that i realize that PR2 is an interesting game
darkhorse64: *now*
Hjax: my bot is currently 204 lines
Hjax: i should port my pr2 bot to pr1 lol
rares: .
rares: does any1 know why console says no output found despite me printing stuff?
Uljahn: could be extra space or \n, or printing to stderr
struct: I did not had a steal for this game
MSmits: it's thought to be solved as a draw
struct: add
MSmits: even if it hasn't been proven
MSmits: assuming you're talking about Othello
struct: yeah
MSmits: yeah I think it's fine not to add a steal here
MSmits: in yavalath it was absolutely critical to have a steal because without it, p1 would always win
struct: yeah
struct: I added in yinsh, but I think its not needed at all
MSmits: havent looked at Yinsh yet
MSmits: for me the order is: Oware -> Othello -> Breakthrough currently
struct: I think to get a bot working is too much work
struct: What are you currently doing on Oware?
struct: Solving end game?
MSmits: yes, looking at several things for oware, including end games
ArnaldurBjarnason: how hard would it be to have scheme added to the useable language
ArnaldurBjarnason: list?
MSmits: not sure what you are talking about
ArnaldurBjarnason: scheme is a programming language and I would love to be able to make bots using it
ArnaldurBjarnason: it's a LISP
Uljahn: you'd better ask admins on forum or discord
ArnaldurBjarnason: ok cool, thanks for the tip :)
MSmits: ah, well if it's not in there its not likely to be added any time soon, they add languages rarely, but they do add them
MSmits: last time i think they polled to see which language should be added
MSmits: D was added then
Uljahn: D is for dead?
Uljahn: nobody uses it besides Antisquid
struct: I would not say he uses it
Uljahn: jk
ArnaldurBjarnason: It's a pretty neat language but most detractors say that it's not a significant enough improvement over C++ to be worth the change
MSmits: those damned detractors
MSmits: always the same thing with those guys
struct: My coding skils have improved since I switched to D
struct: Now Im able to finish community multies in 1 day
MSmits: ?
MSmits: you dont code them in D
struct: Sorry I keep trolling :(
MSmits: I thought maybe D made you hate coding bots so much that you exclusively focus on creating multis now
MSmits: arggh I hate this, my best oware bot has an ugly part in the code and when I "improve" it my bot performs worse
struct: Nah, I just stopped because I enjoy creating multis
inoryy: i'm so productive since I switched to D I don't even need to submit to multis anymore
inoryy: I just look at problem statements and know the solution
MSmits: why bother coding it then
MSmits: you've got nothing to prove, you D wizard you
struct: D got you a job at Deepmind
Hjax: the D IDE is just where you put in your paypal so they know where to send the prize money
MSmits: ahh that's why its called D
inoryy: math checks out, struct
struct: Yeah, D was created by DeepMind
jacek: woah what a push
MalwareBoy: malwareboy says hello
Scarfield: hi
struct: hi Scarfield
struct: MSmits how much time would you say I should put for Othello?
MSmits: time?
MSmits: oh calc time
struct: yeah
MSmits: 100 ms possible?
struct: even higher
MSmits: hmm
MSmits: at least 100
struct: even 300 should be possible
Scarfield: max of 60 turns
Scarfield: so 30 per player
struct: 490 max
struct: or my math is wrong?
MSmits: well I dont know, if you put a higher max you'll make submits slower is all
struct: yeah
struct: Im not sure what to do
struct: I put 2 sec at first turn though
struct: for memory allocation of players
MSmits: 2 ??
struct: 2 sec yeah
MSmits: why 2 instead of 1>?
struct: firs turn only
struct: because on uTTT 1 sec is not enough for me
struct: to allocate all nodes :p
Scarfield: ;o
Scarfield: :o *
Scarfield: do you set node values that are not = 0
MSmits: struct, is this on c++?
struct: yes MSmits
struct: let me check Scarfield
MSmits: I can fill all memory and it requires almost no time
MSmits: your problem is that you are assigning values to properties
MSmits: dont do that
MSmits: just int x;
MSmits: not int x = 0;
struct: all values are 0
MSmits: yeah dont do that
MSmits: dont set it to 0
struct: Node() : childCount(0), moveBoardPos(0), moveBoardIndex(0), visits(0), score(0), firstChildIndex(0) {}
MSmits: leave it whatever it is in memory
struct: ah I see
MSmits: then it will just reserve the memory
MSmits: and it will take no noticable time
Scarfield: oh i thought that was better practice to do that, and the compiler sets them to 0 anyway?
Scarfield: int x; is the same as int x = 0; ?
struct: ok I did that
struct: and my sims dropped to 30%
struct: lol
MSmits: Scarfield no it isnt
MSmits: not in c++
Astrobytes: should probably init a few of those somewhere else, your code must be expected init'd values
MSmits: the memory is whatever it was
MSmits: some random bit configuration
perseverent: what happened in UTTT in the last 2 years?
perseverent: :)
jacek: so in theory i could read someone else code? :thinking:
MSmits: no idea
Astrobytes: calloc will zero the memory but I think that's slower
jacek: UTTT is 2 years old?
perseverent: I look at my last submit
perseverent: 2 years old
jacek: oh my
struct: 05-03-2018
perseverent: some new ideas in the meantime?
Astrobytes: Yes. Run. Run away.
struct: Yes
struct: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/843257e808c280174462ae480c45d0629921f7
struct: best idea
Astrobytes: Pimping your multis again struct :P
jacek: yea, who does that
Astrobytes: ...
struct: Community multis should get more love :(
Astrobytes: Speaking of which I still didn't do Paper Soccer
jacek: as for uttt, it is still faster bitboard + mcts fest
jacek: well and opening heuristic
jacek: :c
Astrobytes: The Teccles Heuristic (c) Teccles
perseverent: no minimax ideas?
perseverent: opening book?
struct: opening books yeah
Hjax: hmmm i just lost a game of pr2 where i had 102 zones to 44
Hjax: awkward
WINWINWIN: They went for the base?
Hjax: nope! they just retook the map
Hjax: and eventually had more than me
Hjax: i dont know how to tell when i should check areas again
Hjax: to know if my opponent has taken them
Hjax: https://www.codingame.com/replay/472475629
struct: Explaining the legal moves is not easy
struct: Is the only thing I'm missing
Scarfield: piece has to be adjacent to a opponent piece on board, and have a straight line of opponent pieces between your placed piece and another of your own pieces
Scarfield: something like that :)
Scarfield: btw if you declare your nodes with what is basicly random member values, dont you risk to get wrong links when building up a tree?
Scarfield: i could have sworn i read somewhere declaring like int x; would automatically set x to zero :'(
Hankdane: It depends on the language and the compiler.
Scarfield: c++ in this case
jacek: https://external-preview.redd.it/rY4XS6gDVyA31TeAOggHg8mempuqXW38iYtrQeXPKUI.jpg?auto=webp&s=04323c89003b0e8595aabe5438acdb8497f6b6e9
Scarfield: lol
Scarfield: i dont know where i got that misinformation from, maybe a nightmare :p
Scarfield: but i still dont understand MSmits why you say not to initialize members then?
Astrobytes: speeds up the allocation, just make sure you initialise them with something/assign something to them elsewhere before you use them
Astrobytes: Say like when you add a child node, pull the node from the node pool, and set it's member variables there
Scarfield: ty FastroBytes
Astrobytes: yw StarField
Scarfield: Old School screensaver flashbacks :)
Astrobytes: hahaha forgot about that one
struct: I think I will make it 150ms
struct: 150ms * 60 = 9 sec + 4 sec = 13 sec
struct: not bad I guess
Scarfield: how many games for a community multi when submitting?
struct: Im not sure
struct: I think 100
struct: I will try on yavalath
struct: give me a sec
struct: If its 100 its not too bad
struct: 13 sec * 100 = 1300 sec / N_machines
struct: should be under 10min at worse
struct: Unless there is CSB promotion
Scarfield: xD
struct: I get experience if I upvote my contribution :D
eulerscheZahl: known fact struct. same for own comments and solutions
eulerscheZahl: reported long ago, CG doesn't care
struct: 1 exp for comment upvote?
struct: lol
eulerscheZahl: i never did that myself. i level up like a pro by finding 4 player CSB for 500XP legend
struct: Is it still up?
eulerscheZahl: yes. but access is restricted to those who already played it now
Astrobytes: 4 player CSB?
Scarfield: you submitted i think astro?
Astrobytes: I did?
eulerscheZahl: basically multiplayer search race
Scarfield: euler linked it here, and 5-10 players jumped on the train :D
eulerscheZahl: no collisions and 1 pod per player
Astrobytes: Don't remember it
eulerscheZahl: i was just having fun with the API
eulerscheZahl: also found code of ice and fire, kutulu, crystal rush
eulerscheZahl: and code4life i think
eulerscheZahl: all of these were older than the respective contest
eulerscheZahl: so i reported it and they pretty much restricted everything now
eulerscheZahl: e.g. a replay only gets public when you hit the share button in the bottom corner
Astrobytes: Yeah
eulerscheZahl: i think these events are related
Astrobytes: You're a clype euler, a clype I tell ye
Scarfield: clype?
eulerscheZahl: now i need a dict
eulerscheZahl: :D
Astrobytes: (an informer in SCots)
Astrobytes: *Scots
eulerscheZahl: "Petze"
Astrobytes: Yep, same
eulerscheZahl: i hate it when i comment on how shitty a contribution is and then it just gets deleted
Astrobytes: Yeah, like the n*4 one
struct: Seems to be 90 matches for community multies
eulerscheZahl: today i found now: how many digits does a^b have, causing huge numbers
Astrobytes: Yes 90
Astrobytes: overflow levels of huge numbers?
eulerscheZahl: but a python 1-lines proved the setter's solution being wrong on the smaller cases
struct: Ok, I think statement is good enough, now I wait for upvotes
eulerscheZahl: expected solution was something with log10
eulerscheZahl: but screwed up the rounding
Astrobytes: nice, very professional
Astrobytes: I kinda like it when people defend their useless contribution until their dying breath
eulerscheZahl: with pictures. definitely struct's handwriting right there
Scarfield: minecraft crafting?
struct: Now pictures use CG link
struct: Not like yavalath :D
Astrobytes: (handiwork eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: highly appreciated
eulerscheZahl: i admit i don't follow my own advice here
Astrobytes: good move struct ;)
eulerscheZahl: i should also upload my avatar just for the demo replay
Scarfield: just gave you 5 more exp structo, nice work on the othello :)
eulerscheZahl: now when i change it and switch back later, the old avatar gets removed at some point
eulerscheZahl: leaving a blank space in the default match
struct: thanks Scarfield
eulerscheZahl: 10p for contribution upvotes
MSmits: perseverent if you're still here: Opening books are used by 4-5 players and they are mostly good against other players with a book. If you're up against someone without a book, it will not improve your winrate more than 5% max, maybe less
eulerscheZahl: 5 for solution upvotes, 1 for comments
struct: maybe he upvoted comments
Scarfield: 5 comments upvoted, already upvoted the contribution
Astrobytes: Description seems good struct
Astrobytes: *Statement
struct: I wrote the game without reading the rules
struct: Nothing can go wrong
Scarfield: xD
MSmits: like a pro :)
Astrobytes: I know, I remember the chaining
struct: Yeah, I implemented chaining ...
struct: and wasted time on animations for it :D
MSmits: this is like me assuming subs can teleport in ooc :P
Astrobytes: hehe, worked out alright though
eulerscheZahl: :D
Astrobytes: lol :D
Astrobytes: That was funny
MSmits: it sure made the tracking easier to code without the teleport
MSmits: I pushed re curse hard in oware
Astrobytes: struct, almost ready to publish to pending right?
Astrobytes: I saw that MSmits, and jace k. Meanwhile, I temporarily broke mine lol
struct: I must wait for tric trac comment
Astrobytes: Yes, true struct
MSmits: he's still protesting?
eulerscheZahl: protesting against what?
Scarfield: isnt he from UK?
Astrobytes: Been chained to a fence for 3 days now
MSmits: I dunno, it is an assumption
Scarfield: lol
struct: My guess it's holidays
MSmits: Astrobytes chained to a fence to protest?
Scarfield: to a tree
Scarfield: dont fell the tree
Astrobytes: He's French CarShield
eulerscheZahl: here in Germany we lock ourselves to the railway tracks
MSmits: oh, the smart way to protest
eulerscheZahl: to stop nuclear waste transportation
Astrobytes: Yeah MSmits, or glued to a window or something
Scarfield: oh bastroClype
MSmits: I see
MSmits: yeah, let the waste sit in the middle of a train track where terrorist can grab it
MSmits: instead of a safe bunker
Astrobytes: GGWP FarField
struct: Should I post othello on discord?
struct: I need exp to get Yavalath back :(
trictrac: Hello all, struct you provide a new multi "othelllo" in some hours : as usual good job !
Scarfield: xD
struct: Hi tric trac
MSmits: you can get it back struct?
Astrobytes: yay
MSmits: there's trictrac, he's on his phone in the middle of a riot now I bet
Astrobytes: :D
MSmits: dodge, tric trac, they're shooting rubber bullets
MSmits: we need you alive
Astrobytes: He doesn't live in Marseille or Paris MSmits
MSmits: ahh ok
struct: no MSmits
struct: its gonne forever
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: well everyone knows it's yours
Astrobytes: You can retrieve via CG staff no?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPOQ1psvSM
struct: I guess
MSmits: nice video :)
Astrobytes: lol, I remember that one
Astrobytes: (no it wasn't me)
struct: I can calculate circle speed if I dont know speed but I know the time it takes to reach the point right?
eulerscheZahl: i'm surprised how quickly i found it again
struct: Ok im dumb
struct: its easy
struct: Im gonna need it for the next multi
struct: for the animations
MSmits: the next ?
struct: Yeah, its almost done
eulerscheZahl: have you decided which will be next?
struct: I never finished it
eulerscheZahl: oh
jacek: sh...?
eulerscheZahl: tzaar?
Astrobytes: Othello II: Physics Edition
struct: shobu
struct: yeah
struct: Tzaar I have it finished
MSmits: there's 3D TTT
struct: but never bothered submiting
struct: The viewer is very bad
Astrobytes: 4D Yinsh or I'm out
MSmits: if you have a 3D game, then time is the 4th dimension
MSmits: so...
Scarfield: We Want 4 Spacial Dimensions!
MSmits: all CG games are 3D
Astrobytes: Fair point. 5D Yinsh. More Yinsh games is the 5th dimension
MSmits: because of time
trictrac: With this number of new multi produces by struct, It wiil be very very difficult to provide good bot for all these multi
MSmits: says the guy that put a bot on all multis in less than a year :)
struct: You don't have to play all
jacek: should make general game multi
Astrobytes: I think we need a Board Game section :D
MSmits: good idea
Scarfield: or a structo section
eulerscheZahl: you will soon bypass my by contribution count :scream:
eulerscheZahl: i totally agree about the board game section
trictrac: one upvote for the struct section
Astrobytes: :)
Astrobytes: Yeah, but a board game section would be great, in all seriousness
struct: yeah
Scarfield: true
struct: I agree
MSmits: well that saves me a few seconds navigating to the next multi to play
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: Where would I post that on the discord?
eulerscheZahl: we can add tags like https://www.codingame.com/learn/classic-board-games
struct: Community games?
jacek: programming memes
struct: Oh no I see othello
Astrobytes: lel
struct: Ah its the puzzle euler mentioned
MSmits: it's cool, you can link it in the statement
MSmits: if its good that is
trictrac: with a specific leaderboard for Msmits, jacek, dbdr, recurse, robo, ....
MSmits: and trictrac
Astrobytes: Oh also, we need ideas and suggestions for the CG SDK Wiki
Astrobytes: while I'm here
MSmits: how many nr 1 trictrac?
MSmits: breakthrough right?
Astrobytes: lol trictrac
eulerscheZahl: i answered 1 question in the wiki. so there is an answer in the list of open questions :D
MSmits: ahh checkers too
eulerscheZahl: and in that process doxxed my ISP
trictrac: only 5 and some second behind you
MSmits: *only*
struct: One thing I can't understand
struct: is why they dont update skeleton repo
struct: It's so old
MSmits: oh you have checkers/breakthrough and 3 smaller games?
struct: oh they updated it
struct: :D
MSmits: I only have 2 atm I think
trictrac: one some they are not many players
MSmits: yeah, i didnt do the smaller games yet. I spend way too much time on some games
eulerscheZahl: they should still accept the pull request regarding intelliJ files in gitignore
struct: How did you end up leaking ISP euler?
Astrobytes: lol eulerscheZahl, I thought that reply was yours. We need to make the wiki a coherent source of info though, not just random facts without context like re Curse pointed out on the discord. Ideas would be appreciated
eulerscheZahl: editing the wiki page, logs show my IP
struct: ah
eulerscheZahl: sorry, i'm not motivated to invest much into that wiki. but i like the chat history :)
Astrobytes: Just ideas, not asking for work to be done ;)
Scarfield: but "would you kindly"
jacek: struct there is othello puzzle, maybe you can reuse the background from there :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: the background is the smallest issue
eulerscheZahl: but it's a good one, showing the actual game
eulerscheZahl: for an overview page i prefer those over great artwork that has nothing to do with the actual game
struct: I guess I'll ask nicola when I see him around
MSmits: never seen him around
MSmits: but maybe he's online on euler hours in the morning?
Astrobytes: "euler hours" :D
MSmits: you know.. when normal people sleep
eulerscheZahl: https://static.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=42875225402001
MSmits: looks good
struct: yeah
eulerscheZahl: nicola is online right now
Astrobytes: While the community sleeps, euler beats them down
eulerscheZahl: mostly active on #fr
MSmits: ahh like so many
struct: Ok I need a translator
eulerscheZahl: he speaks English
MSmits: even if his English was bad I'm sure you can make him understand you want to use his pic :)
eulerscheZahl: i hereby volunteer for english to english translation and back
eulerscheZahl: he wrote a lot of puzzles. i'm pretty sure his English is decent
MSmits: is that when you correct people's grammar?
Astrobytes: I can do Scots<>English
eulerscheZahl: no, i would just echo
MSmits: ah
Astrobytes: :P
eulerscheZahl: and parrot for the way back
MSmits: but without the errors?
eulerscheZahl: with errors to keep the translation idiomatic
Scarfield: using google translate into a language and back to the starting language make for some great song lyrics :p
MSmits: would be fun to have a parrot that repeats you and corrects your errors
Astrobytes: Ever use Translation Party?
MSmits: but I guess they live so long because they don't do that
eulerscheZahl: a long time ago i used babelfish
eulerscheZahl: i feel old
eulerscheZahl: was impressed how good it worked
struct: Remember if you have any suggestion for games you would like to see, feel free to say so, tric trac asked for one, but I can't find a way to port it to CG
MSmits: Scarfield I think jimmy fallon has some game where they sing such lyrics
Scarfield: never heard of it astro, yea smits thats where i saw it :)
MSmits: ah ok
eulerscheZahl: i suggested yinsh. we have it now but it almost broke you :(
struct: This is what he suggested
struct: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/98778/hanabi
MSmits: I think this happens when we let struct do his own ideas
MSmits: when i said he had to do othello, it was no problem
eulerscheZahl: yinsh was my idea
struct: yeah it was euler
struct: that suggested
MSmits: oh, it's just you then
struct: long ago
eulerscheZahl: but then didn't feel like coding it
Astrobytes: Scarfield https://www.translationparty.com/
Scarfield: yea just found it, doesnt seem to do anything though?
jacek: try deepl translator
MSmits: eulerscheZahl so next time wield the structo responsibly
jacek: destructo
Astrobytes: Aw crap, it's down :/
Astrobytes: It translates to Japanese back to English repeatedly until equilibrium
MSmits: struct is like mjolnir only every time you use it, it makes boardgames
Scarfield: lol
Astrobytes: It's usually rather amusing
eulerscheZahl: don't worry MSmits, coding my brainfarts myself atm
MSmits: good :)
Scarfield: but who is worthy to hold structo then?
MSmits: good question
eulerscheZahl: let's release othello and wait 2 or 3 weeks
eulerscheZahl: then #1 can request a new game
MSmits: cool
struct: That would be a nice idea actually
MSmits: I will ask Renard if he has any other bots from the 90s
Scarfield: xD
struct: lol
struct: Do you want me to publish it?
MSmits: If the testers say it's good, then it's good
eulerscheZahl: you cant decide that alone
eulerscheZahl: need 3 approvals
struct: 3 damn
MSmits: should be easy
struct: 3 is so low tbh
MSmits: ye
MSmits: gotta do some shopping, before store closes, ttyl.
struct: What tags I add for Othello?
eulerscheZahl: cries in space maze
Astrobytes: lol
struct: The secret is to give legal actions
Astrobytes: Tags: Classic board game, board game, trytobeatlerenardsoldAI
struct: Bitboarding
Astrobytes: MCTS, minimax, the usual
Scarfield: Tags: Don't invite euler to coc
Astrobytes: Oh and Simulated Healing or whatever it was from the SR WIP :P
Astrobytes: *ANhealing it was :D
Scarfield: lol
Astrobytes: MiniSnax, AlphaEata (greddy algos :P )
Astrobytes: *greedy
Scarfield: GAimax
Astrobytes: Ah yeah. True AI too.
Scarfield: of course
Astrobytes: Prune array
Scarfield: poor seg xD
Scarfield: ceg *
Astrobytes: HE loves it :P
jacek: and yet not long ago some people thought about othello's chainings..
Scarfield: i missed this othello chaining thing?
Astrobytes: Yeah we got him earlier for that :D
struct: Scarfield I thought othello had chains
Astrobytes: He was under the impression that moves trigger chains of flips, rather than flipping all pieces at once. It was... interesting
struct: So I added them in my code
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: And animated them very well
Astrobytes: Yeah struct, do you plan variable board sizes?
struct: no
Scarfield: so if a flipped piece would allow new peices to flip sort of chain?
struct: yes Scarfield
struct: let me see if I have replay
struct: https://i.imgur.com/F1XrTQX.gifv
Astrobytes: then darkhorse's comment is valid, you only need to read board dimension once, outside loop
struct: Something like that
struct: I know Astrobytes, but most of the games the var is inside
struct: its to not confuse players
darkhorse64: More to the point than my previous comment.
Astrobytes: lol :D
darkhorse64: It got me 2 XP.
Astrobytes: Yeah maybe so struct but 1. it's annoying, 2. one more thing to read = wasted time
Scarfield: hmm could maybe be an interesting game though :D Structhello
Astrobytes: 2XP :D
darkhorse64: Only 9998 left for level 40
struct: it makes it easier to start the timer
struct: :p
struct: Ok Ill move the height to outside the loop
struct: or shouldnt I even add height?
Astrobytes: Cool. Also - how would it confuse players?
struct: All my games had that I think
struct: thats why I thought it was generic
eulerscheZahl: official games like the great escape give the board size in input too
Astrobytes: Something like boardSize // width and height of board
darkhorse64: In the loop ?
Astrobytes: Yeah. It's really annoying.
eulerscheZahl: outside the loop
struct: ok Ill keep
struct: but outside the loop
Astrobytes: Yeah don't get rid of it, just outside the loop
darkhorse64: Fine. Upvote me. 12997 left
Astrobytes: lol, I even did it for you
Astrobytes: *actually not even
darkhorse64: Should I really solve 15 puzzles in Haskell, VB.Net or Clojure ?
eulerscheZahl: no, be smart
eulerscheZahl: codegolf counts as 2 if you submit twice
struct: We commented at same time astro
eulerscheZahl: A*Craft, CG sponsored: submit default code, get terrible score with 100% corret
eulerscheZahl: correct
eulerscheZahl: same for number shifting
Astrobytes: Nice struct, now upvote my comment
Astrobytes: :P
eulerscheZahl: CGFunge Prime: solve once, farm language achievements
struct: Time to get 1sst
darkhorse64: I have ample solutions provision. What bothers is writing code for esoteric (to be kind) languages
darkhorse64: *bothers me*
struct: LeRenard I'm sorry, I broke your bot, I moved the height outside the game loop
Astrobytes: Don't think that'll take a lot of time to fix tbph ;)
struct: ok I updated it, also updated repo
struct: I wont touch it anymore
darkhorse64: First with a 2 points margin !!!
Astrobytes: Seems to be working OK
darkhorse64: Come rekt me
Astrobytes: I did
darkhorse64: gg
Astrobytes: :P
Astrobytes: struct - boarSize?
darkhorse64: beardSize ?
Astrobytes: Wild or...?
Astrobytes: tailleDuSanglier
Astrobytes: = 8
jacek: :B
struct: omfg
struct: zzzz
Astrobytes: Othello: Wild Pig Edition
struct: I was ready to delete othello from my pc
struct: you spoke in time
Astrobytes: I'm just glad I stopped laughing in time to comment
struct: In statement I also wrote
struct: boarSize
struct: wtf
Astrobytes: btw, don't remove until successful publishing
Gilbino: hi guys
struct: I can just download it
struct: hi
Gilbino: where are you from
struct: Check the flag
Astrobytes: Hover over our avatars
Gilbino: sorry i'm new here around
struct: no problem
Astrobytes: all good
struct: I was also thinking in porting this game
struct: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/117/ta-yu
Astrobytes: Oh wow, now that does look interesting
Gilbino: in fact i know this site from years... then i met the nintendo challenge
Gilbino: anybody did it?
JBM: atleast 93
Astrobytes: 2 player Pipe Dream with extras
Astrobytes: @struct
struct: You like it?
Astrobytes: Yep
struct: On this on I guess I could increase board
Astrobytes: Probably. Not by tooo much though
Astrobytes: struct, now you have boarSize declared and read, then try to read from boardSize in the first for loop
struct: What do you mean?
struct: Did i broke it?
struct: omfg
struct: I renamed in statement
JBM: boarSize
struct: and not in stub?
JBM: that's a call for a new game
Astrobytes: struct https://imgur.com/a/LagmqOF
Astrobytes: Boar Wars
struct: ahahahah
struct: I see
struct: I only renamed one
struct: submiting...
Astrobytes: Version II: "Tuez le sanglier"
JBM: how queer
JBM: i'm so not expecting not-english here
Astrobytes: A random walking wild pig strides around the board, knocking your stones off
struct: fixed?
struct: JBM is nicola still active?
Astrobytes: JBM, only cause I renamed his variable as tailleDuSanglier earlier
Astrobytes: All good now struct
JBM: struct: i'm afraid he kinda is
JBM: Astrobytes: lol
struct: I want to use the picture he has for his othello
struct: Astrobytes I didnt see that game has rng :(
Astrobytes: Get JBM to make you a logo :smirk:
struct: Now I don't like it as much
JBM: i'll wait until my proposal wins the vote on https://cg.spdns.eu/wiki/Wiki_Logo
Astrobytes: struct, you mean the tile picking?
struct: yeah
JBM: not doing that much more free work until then
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: Can you compensate for that by giving players identical tile? Would it work struct?
struct: I have no idea
struct: The fox uses 140 ms
struct: 1900 ms on first turn
struct: wait
struct: do I have a bug
struct: I see he uses 1900ms two times
struct: o.o
Astrobytes: !
struct: Ah
struct: he measures opponent time I think
JBM: but what does the fox SAY?
struct: not sure
JBM: yeah that sums it up
Astrobytes: Please god not that
LeRenard: I use 1900ms in the first turn and 140ms after
JBM: what would you like to be talking about?
LeRenard: Response time first turn is ≤ 2000 ms.
Response time per turn is ≤ 150 ms.
Astrobytes: Just in reference to the reference JBM :P
JBM: monody knows both you and i know the other got it
JBM: *nobody
JBM: i've got a norwegian friend
JBM: that might explain some
Astrobytes: Yep. I have a couple of Swedish ones
JBM: well *that*'s norwegian
JBM: i had no choice but to learn
struct: but this LeRenard
struct: https://i.imgur.com/hBhPzVL.gifv
Astrobytes: Also, "monody" - trying to get monads involved here somehow?
JBM: and dyads too
JBM: just for the sake of global confusion
Astrobytes: "Monody" is what you call a Functional slip
LeRenard: Before your change I start the timer after height
JBM: i see it as ope opposite to homophony
JBM: *one
LeRenard: and now just after while(1)
JBM: come on kbd
LeRenard: it is maybe the problem
struct: LeRenard you need to start after the for loop
struct: the first for loop
JBM: ok struct
JBM: now i'm seeing a replay
JBM: they don't exceed the diameter
JBM: but it's still weirding me out
struct: Yeah jbm, that is because its a fake flip
struct: it doesnt really flip the piece
JBM: no kidding
JBM: can't you just flip it and be done with it!
struct: I cant flip it
JBM: why not?
JBM: who's preventing yu?
struct: Dont know how to code it
struct: My brain
JBM: i'd do that for youjust to not see that any ;ore
Snef: that kindness
JBM: what's your current routine
jacek: whats wrong with the flip
JBM: just look at it
JBM: then take a RL coin and flip it
Snef: yea the rotate isn't what it should be it's like they aren't flat on the ground
struct: https://github.com/MultiStruct/Othello/blob/master/src/main/java/com/codingame/game/othello/Viewer.java#L133-L141
struct: it uses skew
JBM: not appropriately
JBM: is there a *fast* and easy way to generate a very short game to generate it?
struct: if you download and open project it should do it
struct: just run main
JBM: just lauched maven
JBM: dl'ing the internet, brb
JBM: wait, alREADy
JBM: my oh my
JBM: that fr localization of ffx is delightful
JBM: "some page is slowing down your whatevs"
JBM: "stop it" "have patience"
struct: ties seem to work :D
Astrobytes: I don't even mind the animation, just flipping colour works for me - but I appreciate the appeal of aesthetic quality.
struct: Yeah, switching colors slowly would be fine
struct: Also I did small changes like placing piece is not instrant
struct: instant*
struct: I think this makes it easier to spot where its placed
Snef: you could do a lightning strike on the tile
Astrobytes: With the Mars Lander sfx
Zenoscave: JBM what is that base64 bytes you're sending?
Zenoscave: some sort of key?
Snef: seed ?
Zenoscave: I think
Astrobytes: Did you update your code for the new inputs Zeno?
Zenoscave: new inputs when?
Zenoscave: I think I did
Astrobytes: donno but you should have these:
cin >> roadLength >> initialStones >> gameSeed >> gameSide >> reserved; cin.ignore();
Astrobytes: (well, in your lang)
Zenoscave: lol I did road_length, initial_stones, *_ = map(int, input.split())
Zenoscave: I just ignored them
Astrobytes: pewpew
Zenoscave: pewpewpew
LelouchVC2: Black Lives
Zenoscave: Matter
Snef: only real AI matter
Zenoscave: Astrobytes Do you know what that base64 is in JBM
Zenoscave: it's 256 bytes after decoding
Zenoscave: seems like raw binary data
struct: zeno still no othello bot'
struct: ?
Zenoscave: othello?
Zenoscave: when was it added?
struct: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5106941b8347f7341a4dbe2f39dabce52586
Zenoscave: Been working a lot lately not much time
Zenoscave: sweet!
Astrobytes: which input is giving you a base64 value Zeno?
Zenoscave: no JBM's bot prints some base64 data
Astrobytes: Ahhhh
Astrobytes: no
Astrobytes: lol,
Astrobytes: I'll check that one out tomorrow
JBM: Zenoscave: it's "nvm trying out some boss stuff"
JBM: you're not really supposed to read too much into it
Zenoscave: first move
JBM: oh i know what it does O:-)
Snef: JBM i found a bug
Zenoscave: I'm going to though ;)
JBM: Snef: shoot
JBM: Zenoscave: really, you mostly can't
JBM: just beat the other people around
Snef: i play vs your bot you output
1 nvm me testing future boss
and then it send 3 stones, but only decrease your stones by 1
JBM: naaaaw
JBM: ignore the boss
JBM: it cheats
JBM: beat the other players
JBM: the boss HAS THE POWER
JBM: though if it sends 3 it should decrease by 3
JBM: what does the viewer say?
Snef: Sortie standard : http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a80f03e6-f6dc-4c0a-8de7-b4595f662bf6
JBM: are you playing in IDE or is it a rankings' match?
Snef: IDE
JBM: yeah i can't have the viewer on those
JBM: the boss cheats
JBM: it has to
JBM: when the leagues are in, it's got to let normal people by
Alshock: it's reading the player's output?
JBM: and beat the ones who cheat
JBM: that's not possible
JBM: what *is* possible, OTOH...
Alshock: nothing's impossible if you have WILL
JBM: well, you'll find out if you really want to
JBM: the point is, it cheats, and you can't
JBM: so ignore it (for now)
JBM: if you don't cheat too much, you'll beat it in due ti;e
JBM: *time
JBM: (i.e., when the leagues are actually pushed)
Alshock: hey you see that shining stone ther at the bottom of the pond?
Snef: so it is normal that he throw 3 and it only decrease by 1 ?
JBM: i saw that video too
Alshock: look at it! it's so beautiful, oh nvm you can't reach it anyway so just ignore it
JBM: snef: don't read too much intp its inputs
JBM: Snef: the viewer data is supposed to look consistent, that's all
JBM: just try to rank above ZeroDoc
JBM: who cheats (but fails)
Astrobytes: Right, I bid you all gn/bn. Until tomorrow, take care
Snef: gn
JBM: gn astroes
struct: gn
struct: Oh no
struct: I found Yavalath brother
MSmits: good for you brother
JBM: shit, i got sidetracked
struct: MSmits
struct: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/92227/tailath
JBM: struct: when od you intend to publish othello?
MSmits: weird game
struct: I can still update it after its released
JBM: right
struct: I dont know when Ill publish it
JBM: i'd do your flips just to prove a point
struct: it can be aproved atm
JBM: but i've got serious trolling to do too
struct: np
JBM: and i'm behind schedule
JBM: way behind
Snef: fix it
struct: There is this game its similar to TGE
struct: I dont know if CG was inspired by it
JBM: corridor?
struct: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12533/entrapment
JBM: not the one i had in mind
FeridBelgaid: bilel
Rush_iam: Is there a way to disable chat?
jlfu10: alt f 4
Andrelamus: Can I choose to opt out of all shortest mode?
struct: Andrelamus no
**Rush_iam slaps jlfu10 around a bit with a large fishbot
my_genjutsu: HELP
my_genjutsu: HELP
my_genjutsu: I NEED HELP
UndisclosedSamourai_e598: I would help but I am not confident I am skilled enough to help anyone
FeridBelgaid: @bi
Hjax: is PR 2 so old that there isnt a referee for it
Hjax: (for brutal tester)
AkioU: wassup
Melonai: hellooo
struct: Hjax still here?
Hjax: im here
struct: https://github.com/SpiritusSancti5/codinGame/blob/master/Referees/Platinum%20Rift2/Referee.java
Hjax: awesome thanks
struct: w
struct: yw+
dyc3: I'm trying to debug why my bot is timing out. Sometimes, the game replay says that my bot timed out, but when I bring the parameters to the IDE, my bot doesn't time out. Any ideas?
struct: You/your opponent bot might have random movements
pb4: JBM : "quoridor" not "corridor"
Hjax: struct: brutaltester is crashing :(
Silverdimond: why is boss 3 so hard
tomatoes: this is what bosses for
Silverdimond: ok boss 4 is harder
JErin: hello
