stalynPunk: hi
aangairbender: hello
aangairbender: but you have reading of elevator_floor and elevator_position
aangairbender: you could store that and use
SolForecast: I can't seem to call it. It only gives out error that it simply doesnt exist
aangairbender: i would create an array outside that for loop and append pairs of elevator_floor and elevator_pos to that arrat
aangairbender: and then use it in my game cycle
aangairbender: game loop*
SolForecast: @-@
aangairbender: because everything creating inside for disappears outside for loop
aangairbender: it is called variable scope
SolForecast: I honestly have no idea how python array works yet honestly-
aangairbender: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d0812619-d59c-4af8-a15d-24b59fdd27ec
aangairbender: btw that can be googled
aangairbender: i am not good with python, but basic idea to store that elevator data to some global variable
SolForecast: wait
So array is just, a queue or something?
aangairbender: yep
aangairbender: kinda list
SolForecast: fair enough. I'll give that a try
aangairbender: good luck
MadKnight: hihi
AntiSquid: hello
MadKnight: say hello Automaton2000
Automaton2000: how could i make a new state
AntiSquid: say hello MadKnight
MadKnight: i did already AntiSquid cmon just scroll up
AntiSquid: just joking MadKnight, how are you?
AntiSquid: i saw russia is clearing up supermarket shelves too
MadKnight: not that much
Crypticsy: hey! @MadKnight
MadKnight: hihihi Crypticsy
Crypticsy: what's up?
Crypticsy: how are you doing?
MadKnight: nice nice
MadKnight: there is a contest going, Crypticsy
MadKnight: don't u play it ?
Crypticsy: hmm i have assignments :( but i was trying to solve this one medium level puzzle
Crypticsy: spamming the play all testcases button for 5 mins now
Crypticsy: it won't let me, says someone is already using the tester
Emir56: compiler on c++ not working am I the only one?
Crypticsy: me too
IceLake: me too
MadKnight: lol
Emir56: the hell is happening
Crypticsy: yeah what's happening?
IceLake: loading forever...
Emir56: clash of code needs seperate categories for every lang
Emir56: hate being beaten by python on every shortest challenge
Crypticsy: finally working wow
emh: high load on servers? submissions seem very slow
emh: in OOC
AntiSquid: someone spamming submits 100%
AntiSquid: or IDE games
AntiSquid: my code stil lworks fine in the IDE, i didn't touch it in a while
dbdr: yes emh. I reported it on discord to @Staff
Crypticsy: @illedan are you online, can i ask you a question?
AntiSquid: that is a question!
jrke: corona 21 days lockdown in india
Scarfield: that was actually 2 questions already, be careful, only one left
Crypticsy: XD hahahaha
Crypticsy: my bad
Scarfield: :)
AntiSquid: i can't imagine this lockdown going on for too long, it's just not feasible jrke
AntiSquid: especially in india
AntiSquid: it won't work
emh: dbdr ok
Crypticsy: idk how nepal has only 3 cases so far
Crypticsy: i am still so skeptical about the government
AntiSquid: not many people go there, not many people got tested, tests take a long time
jrke: i am bored in just 1 day
AntiSquid: do ocean of code
Illedan: What is the question?
AntiSquid: he asked 2 questions, the daily limit is 1, he needs to come back on Friday
jrke: is corona in harvard
Crypticsy: time moves quick in quarantine
AntiSquid: i think Illedan is on annual leave on Friday, come back Monday Crypticsy
Crypticsy: i seriously don't understand the logic behind coming on monday but sure
AntiSquid: Crypticsy seriously just ask your question @_@
Crypticsy: i did on private
emh: 87k now but not improving much
emh: 2700 lines
Illedan: that much code?
emh: yes
Illedan: wow
emh: just adding more and more special cases hehe
emh: and some generic stuff
emh: I finally replaced bool[width, height] with BitArrays
blasterpoard: that sounds like you'll have to restart from scratch in silver
emh: and actually just now I made the assumption that submarine can cross a SILENCE move, so that there is less combinatorial growth to check for
emh: blasterpoard yes probably
blasterpoard: im at 700 lines, only 100 of that being the actual bot logic
AntiSquid: do i need a particular JDK to run CG stuff locally?
wlesavo: emh wow impressing, do you have much code for local debug?
AntiSquid: are we flexing the character count?
kovi: char count * ranking
AntiSquid: so i need to comment in a wiki article and crash submit bot for maximum point count? :thinking:
wlesavo: is Automaton2000 called that due to its code length? :thinking:
Automaton2000: if u get a new button in the ide
muy31: good morning!
yfprojects: Good afternoon!
T-Rone: good night! haha
anid: If I make my repositories on github private, can others see them?
bombohead: this is fame not clout
bombohead: idek what thats about what your mouth
anid: There is no clear explanation on github for this doubt
tonowak: anid unless they are invited, nobody (not from github) can see it
DianaRaie: good night
DianaRaie: good afternoon :wink:
anid: thanks tonowak
kingofnumbers: why sometimes in leaderboard I can see "last battles" of remaining players and sometimes not?
anid: Lol lucky win
anid: https://www.codingame.com/replay/442257627
emh: wlesavo nope
Uljahn: kingofnumbers: last battles are in full leaderboard https://www.codingame.com/contests/ocean-of-code/leaderboard
kingofnumbers: yes, in this exact link
kingofnumbers: sometimes it shows me last battles links of players
kingofnumbers: sometimes not
kingofnumbers: now it doesn't show
Uljahn: it may be affected by your browser's width and page scale
Uljahn: ye, it's width
kingofnumbers: true
kingofnumbers: thanks for help
cookiejar: hi
cookiejar: how can i test my code in power of thor?
MadKnight: just hit Play
cookiejar: it doesn't pop up
MadKnight: and what happens?
MadKnight: show screenshot
cookiejar: its empty with no thor xD
MadKnight: just show screenshot
yfprojects: You can upload it here: https://imgur.com/upload?beta
yfprojects: cookiejar
MadKnight: u can screenshot a part of screen with win+shift+s
MadKnight: on win10
MadKnight: hey yfprojects how's your ocean of code ?
cookiejar: how do i paste it here
MadKnight: just a link
MadKnight: paste it on imgur, it will generate u a link
yfprojects: https://imgur.com/upload?beta
cookiejar: can u just tell me ho to test my code , its the only problem i have
cookiejar: there is no test buton
yfprojects: Blue
MadKnight: is there Play button ?
yfprojects: bottom, right of the screen
cookiejar: play all testcases and submit
MadKnight: we don't know why it is not there, we need to see screenshot to tell
yfprojects: Yes: The play testcases one! cookiejar
cookiejar: https://imgur.com/5En8t6d
MadKnight: no, we need all below this
yfprojects: The play testcases button, cookiejar
Uljahn: 1355 x 389 pixels :thinking:
cookiejar: https://imgur.com/xZN3nCz
MadKnight: u need to click one of testcaes
MadKnight: just click it
MadKnight: click "Straight line"
yfprojects: To OceanOFCode MadKnight:
Its in progress i would say. I have written down how I want to do it and I am currently refreshing my java knowledge.
MadKnight: yfprojects why are u not switching over to C# ?
yfprojects: Because I ont know how to code C#
yfprojects: :grimacing:
MadKnight: but c# is just like java
MadKnight: but with cool features
MadKnight: u sure do know how to code c#
yfprojects: I will look into it!
PJA: how do u calculate the time your bot takes every turn?
yfprojects: time after output minus time after input
PJA: ok
PJA: ty
PJA: and why do people print it with MSG ?
cookiejar: i can't belive i did it :o
yfprojects: :clap:
yfprojects: MadKnight: So c# is faster then java? Or what are the advantages? Nd how fast is c# compared to c++?
cookiejar: i thiught c# is allmost java O.o
cookiejar: thought*
MadKnight: с++ is still faster but c# is faster than java
MadKnight: yfprojects also c# has some cool features
DianaRaie: I did it
yfprojects: what? MadKnight
MadKnight: cool features
MadKnight: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-7
Philbot: which java should i install ?
MadKnight: c#
Philbot: jdk ? se ?
eulerscheZahl: openjdk
Philbot: what version
MadKnight: what are u gonna use it for ?
eulerscheZahl: latest
MadKnight: for CG ?
Philbot: i need it to run some browser apps
Philbot: and for cg too
MadKnight: so as a web-server ?
eulerscheZahl: java applets?
Philbot: i use windows, not linux
Philbot: yes that stuff i think
eulerscheZahl: servers or applets?
applets are dead. if your browser still supports them, get a new browser
blasterpoard: I finally found a way to prune the opponent's paths in OoC...
blasterpoard: it sounds incredibly stupid, but it works and I can track silence-only bots in <5 ms
blasterpoard: without sonar
Illedan: Nice
Illedan: Keep it secret ;)
Illedan: Anyone got a seed with very few islands?
blasterpoard: struct posted seed=-430391657
ZarthaxX: that 4978131516406146000?
ZarthaxX: -452707936478065980
ZarthaxX: less than that?
Illedan: -430391657 is good
Illedan: ty
ZarthaxX: ok
ZarthaxX: lol Illedan https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/442241168
ZarthaxX: what a gam
ZarthaxX: e
PJA: silence just add to much possible paths
blasterpoard: https://www.codingame.com/replay/442288044 this one is better
blasterpoard: my time per turn goes up to 25ms on that seed ^^
Illedan: :D
Illedan: I needed it for my Unit tests as I don't want to bother with crashing into random islands :P
blasterpoard: even turning on sonar doesn't help on that seed
yfprojects: @blasterpoard Illedan Are that modified bots that don't shoot? Or is that your strategy?
LoganStewart016: coders stike back is hard
blasterpoard: yfprojects that's just testing my bot's enemy tracking
blasterpoard: it used to crash when there were too many possibilities
kingofnumbers: blasterpoard, what do you use to measure the running time of your code ?
kingofnumbers: I tried to google some methods
kingofnumbers: but they were inaccurate for 50 ms
eulerscheZahl: chrono
blasterpoard: kingofnumbers https://hastebin.com/osariruxem.cpp
kingofnumbers: I tried this
kingofnumbers: but it looks like not accurate really
kingofnumbers: sometimes it gives me more than 50ms
eulerscheZahl: when do you start the timer? before or after reading the input?
blasterpoard: start timing after reading 1st input
kingofnumbers: without getting timeout
kingofnumbers: before reading
kingofnumbers: in first line of while loop
eulerscheZahl: you are measuring the time for the referee and opponent too that way
kingofnumbers: oh yes, true!
kingofnumbers: but even if I do that
eulerscheZahl: almost everyone of us failed here before ;)
kingofnumbers: I think the timer will still count the time where my program was idle
kingofnumbers: right ?
kingofnumbers: I mean because of operating system thing
kingofnumbers: which distribute the processor on multiple processes
eulerscheZahl: that core is all yours during your turn
kingofnumbers: cool
kingofnumbers: then it should work
kingofnumbers: I'll try
eulerscheZahl: it's as close as you can get
kingofnumbers: so much is the error of this method?
kingofnumbers: less than 1 ms ?
eulerscheZahl: i recommend not to use the full 50ms, i usually go for 40-45ms
eulerscheZahl: but i don't check after every simulation step
eulerscheZahl: as too frequent time checks are expensive too
kingofnumbers: ok, thanks
jrke: 438,879 people affected by corona
jrke: :slight_frown:
eulerscheZahl: you mean infected? it affects all of us in some way
phaberthur: lol im so bad at ocean of code
dbdr: will there be more games per submit later? gold+?
dbdr: is mirror planned?
eulerscheZahl: there are always more game for higher leagues
eulerscheZahl: i don't know anything about mirror matches
eulerscheZahl: there is a small difference by who gets to move first
eulerscheZahl: not sure if big enough for CG to do mirrors
dbdr: yeah, not sure yet if it's super important
dbdr: but 1-0 wins are common
dbdr: so it might be
phaberthur: can anyone share there code for ocean of codes im not good coder
eulerscheZahl: then start the discussion on another platform (discord/forum)
dbdr: right now it's 10+80 matches per submit
eulerscheZahl: it's a contest, i highly discourage anyone from sharing code
dbdr: I think it doubles at some point
phaberthur: lol ok
dbdr: even forbidden
dbdr: it's a hard contest for beginners
dbdr: even wood 2 boss is hard. ah, I don't know about now
phaberthur: this is my first time coding i dont know anything to be honest
eulerscheZahl: will probably be replaced again, still too strong
eulerscheZahl: then the contest might not be the best place to start, try some puzzles in the practice section
dbdr: it's not bad like this, slowly nerfing
dbdr: bronze with 1k players can be hell
phaberthur: i dont understand the puzzles
eulerscheZahl: yes
i guess new wood bosses on silver opening, i don't know for sure either
dbdr: contest is harder than the puzzles
phaberthur: i need more begginner material
eulerscheZahl: then CG might even be the wrong platform, they expect some basic knowledge
phaberthur: aww i like this website but i guess ill just have to come back to it someday once ive learned how to code :disappointed:
dbdr: same code finished #9 first (bad-ish start) then #2
dbdr: so yes, more matches will be needed :)
phaberthur: nice
phaberthur: my code is long and just lots of console.log moving directions
phaberthur: but, if im correct, shouldnt there be a way to code in for the torpedo to avoid the islands and its trail without having to tell it exact directions?
AntiSquid: you could still do CG if you manage to learn on the go
dbdr: you just tell what point to reach. the torpedo finds the best way, if it's possible
yfprojects: Do you mean torpedo or submarine?
phaberthur: submarine
yfprojects: You have to write your own pathfinding algorithm
phaberthur: lol i just used the pre wrote algorithm and added some move directions thats probably why i cant win
Swagboy: phaberthur Few people win in a contest!
phaberthur: lol i know
phaberthur: bye everyone, im going to go and find a better coding website for teaching
phaberthur: have a nice day
Swagboy: Enjoy phaberthur!
jrke: can you tell me which is the best language to learn
jrke: :thinking:
pmor: languages have the +'s and -'s. If you're starting out, I would suggest python, c# or java.
Albeast: I would advertise python as it is quite generic
ToshiTuringMachine: java is easy but useless
pmor: and the language wars begin.....
ToshiTuringMachine: if you want to win contests, do c++
jrke: i am leaning c++ is it worth learning it
pmor: c++ is more difficult. With that complexity comes speed which is why it's used a lot in competitions.
Uljahn: languages are just tools, it's wise to use appropriate tools for the job
pmor: ^
AntiSquid: ^
Zenoscave: v
Zenoscave: v
Zenoscave: >
Zenoscave: <
Zenoscave: a
Zenoscave: b
Zenoscave: a
Zenoscave: b
Uljahn: iddqd
AntiSquid: ban
Zenoscave: sorry no ban pls
AntiSquid: someone make ZarthaxX mod
Zenoscave: Oh god we would all be banned
ZarthaxX: yes , specially you
Zenoscave: Hiya zarthie
ZarthaxX: pew pew zeno
Zenoscave: PEW PEW
ZarthaxX: going for top?
Zenoscave: top ten at least
ZarthaxX: gud gud
ZarthaxX: keep going
Zenoscave: you should too
Zenoscave: :+1:
ZarthaxX: doing that
jrke: which is the easiest language
Uljahn: basic
Zenoscave: Python has easy syntax. It is a little harder than basic (VB.NET) but is slightly more usuable in industry
Csipcsirip: basically it is the most basic language
Zenoscave: ^
pmor: MS is sunlighting it though
Zenoscave: sunlighting?
pmor: not making future updates
Zenoscave: ah
pmor: I used the wrong word...meant sunsetting
AntiSquid: i would say python is def the easiest
Tunga: Hey
Astrobytes: 'def', I see what you did there
Tunga: Global rating is about compete tab and level is about practice?
Uljahn: ye
Uljahn: you also get XP in compete for promotions in leagues
Uljahn: i mean in ai bot programming
Tunga: Got it, thanks
Glenn: I mean there is literally a leaderboard in this case showing 4 different langauges in the top 10 so...
yfprojects: ^ Yes, its about the bot, not about the language
Glenn: I wonder if anyone could even write code in which the difference in execution speed would manifest as a ranking difference. I very highly doubt anyone can optimize to that level in 30 days when it's hard enough to do that in benchmark tests.
Glenn: This whole X is faster than Y thing is silly.
daffie: most of the people here aren't real people they're all bots
Glenn: I mean I'm a bot too so...
Tunga: You roll an existence question here daffie
pmor: If you know what you're doing and how to profile, it's not hard.
Glenn: If it's not hard, why aren't you in the top 10? :)
daffie: I just mean do the code clash sometimes and later find out I was playing against bots it says on their profile
pmor: :P
Tunga: Glenn, why are you obsessed with rank?
daffie: they write their own code and everything
Tunga: Some bots are better than us in coding?
Glenn: Better than me, yeah. lol
Tunga: I ll rool and cry in my room, alone. Thanks corona btw
daffie: corona virus is keeping me on edge, can't tell if I have it or don't have it
Glenn: If you can't tell, you probably don't have it.
daffie: but I have been super tired, breathing feels heavier but not difficult, I've noticed a small ~99.6 temperature when I take it sometimes other times it's normal
daffie: I don't wanna be paranoid about it but then I think like would rather take it serious than end up dying because I think I don't have it. I guess I'll find out soon
yfprojects: i heard that there is a limited amount of Code Clashes, so maybe these bots just have a solution made by a human for every clash
dbdr: daffie the most important thing you can do is to avoid contact with others as much as possible
daffie: yea I am I never leave the house and have social anxiety anyway so it is business as usual
dbdr: :)
Tunga: When I started in an international automotive company as a junior and I saw that some codes types codes, it amazes me
Tunga: Now it gets worse, some people type some code which is better than me in competitive area
Jonpix: How detect islands in ocean of code please? Feel like I'm missing something massive her e
AntiSquid: x marks the sport
AntiSquid: spot
eulerscheZahl: you get the map at the beginning of the game
Jonpix: Okay got it now :D
wlesavo: hehe, got to top10
dbdr: gz wlesavo!
eulerscheZahl: now all you have to do is to defend that rank for 25 days
dbdr: ezpz
wlesavo: yeah, i know that it wont be for long, but still means something to me
dbdr: s/defend/improve/
eulerscheZahl: take a screenshot
wlesavo: i already took screenshoot defeating dbdr :slight_smile:
dbdr: :D
Illedan: :diploma:
Illedan: :diplom:
Illedan: :(
dbdr: honoured that it means somethin to you :)
dbdr: :medal:
wlesavo: Illedan did you downgraded your bot to silence spamer?
Illedan: Yeah
Illedan: Testing purposes
Illedan: But I had to stop and fix referee instead :(
wlesavo: thought so, due to that bug?
Illedan: A few things
Illedan: and to keep my sanity at bay
Illedan: So I rewrote everything today and added a whole bunch of unit tests :P
BenjaminUrquhart: who do bronze people test against
eulerscheZahl: if he breaks it again, you are allowed to use :wrench:
eulerscheZahl: other bronze people
eulerscheZahl: and the default AI
Illedan: That is if I break it without unit tests :P
Illedan: xD
ToshiTuringMachine: hi
Illedan: hi
eulerscheZahl: hi
dbdr: the bronze boss: mchl12
emh: can't believe how many bugs my code has
wlesavo: mchl12 have some interesting bug typing SURFACE | SURFACE | SURFACE | SURFACE | SURFACE | at first turn eventually
eulerscheZahl: maybe it's on purpose to find some map easier?
wlesavo: or is it even a bug
wlesavo: eulerscheZahl in cost of a timeout?
dbdr: what, he prints several SURFACE, or...?
mchl12: yeah, I may have some bugs with surfacing
wlesavo: yeah, this is a single output
mchl12: They should be fixed though
BenjaminUrquhart: doesn't seem to stop you mchl12 :)
wlesavo: so that a few times runing the code in ide
dbdr: SURFACE is level += 1, so several can send you flying in the sky
mchl12: not in my submission of course
BenjaminUrquhart: wlesavo nice timeout
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/442325536
wlesavo: hm, thx
BenjaminUrquhart: aaand I found another tracking bug brb
wlesavo:
BenjaminUrquhart oh, this probably was in previous submit, fixed that already
BenjaminUrquhart: what's the longest game so far
BenjaminUrquhart: ah ok
eulerscheZahl: that replay has a score but no rank for wlesavo -> not the current arena version
BenjaminUrquhart: "obsolete" I see
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/rmptme
the arena version has a number there
wlesavo: eulerscheZahl thx, nice to know
dbdr: eulerscheZahl, is you replay reproduce tool still online?
wlesavo: i just recognized this bug, not sending sector id at surfacing while selftracking, fixed that just before the last submit
BenjaminUrquhart: another selftracker, nice
wlesavo: well it kindof effective
eulerscheZahl: sure dbdr
dbdr: found it
eulerscheZahl: me too :D
http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/replays/reproduce/442325536
dbdr: just needs the replay id or it says not found
eulerscheZahl: true, i should change that one day :D
dbdr: unrelated: are you making assumptions in your tracking?
eulerscheZahl: also it loads for several seconds sometimes
eulerscheZahl: no
Illedan: Why make assumptions?
eulerscheZahl: assumption: the code finishes in 50ms
Illedan: Better add probability
dbdr: I think that's heroku being slow on startup
eulerscheZahl: correct
eulerscheZahl: my herokuapp is shut down after 30min of inactivity
eulerscheZahl: a django project btw
eulerscheZahl: tried at pythonanywhere before
eulerscheZahl: but the free version only has a whitelist web servers to request
eulerscheZahl: codingame not being one of them
wlesavo: Illedan i think dbdr means prioretize some candidates over the other, for example when opponent jumps prioretize the longest possible dirrection or smth like that
Illedan: In checking the path?
Illedan: To prune faster?
wlesavo: no in decision making
dbdr: I meant prune "unlikely" options
dbdr: for whatever criteria
YannT: Illedan: think I found an exploit
YannT: gonna send you replay in PM
Illedan: :+1:
YannT: :grin:
kingofnumbers: please tell me the exploit
kingofnumbers: you make me very curious now
kingofnumbers: :(
Illedan: Spamming mines are imba
kingofnumbers: just kidding :D
Illedan: They also cause too much pollution
struct: so, not really an exploit?
AntiSquid: more pollution than silence?
AntiSquid: torpedos killing mines was a good counter
struct: maybe
struct: hard to tell without actually testing
struct: It could also make mines useless
kingofnumbers: not really, you can't always shoot torpedos
kingofnumbers: as this reveals your position
struct: yes but with 1 torpedo you could destroy at best case 9 mines
kingofnumbers: but you would probably don't want to walk in all these 9
kingofnumbers: maybe you are only interested in walking in only 3 cells
AntiSquid: if the opponent place 9 mines next to each other they shouldn't expect an easy win, don't put all eggs in one basket :D
kingofnumbers: if you are walking in striaght line
mchl12: kingofnumbers, you also cannot always trigger mines, this also reveals yourup position
kingofnumbers: even though I don't see how can triggering mines help revealing position
kingofnumbers: but still it doesn't contradict what I was saying
struct: it helps by checking previous paths
kingofnumbers: if only you know the id of the mine that was trigger I would agree
kingofnumbers: but you don't know which mine was triggered
struct: you know the x and y
kingofnumbers: if I know my opponent throw mines at turns 50 100 and 150
kingofnumbers: and then I know trigger (4,5)
kingofnumbers: I can't know he was in (4,5) at turn 50 or 100 or 150
Scarfield: you have his path directions
kingofnumbers: but if the opponent throw only 1 mine then trigger it
kingofnumbers: then I agree
mchl12: correct, but you can exclude all the paths that never pass (4,5) on turns 50 100 or 150
kingofnumbers: it reveals position
struct: It helps
AntiSquid: if the opponent input command was MINE N instead of just MINE how much would that change?
struct: If you save all possible paths, states
kingofnumbers: mchl12 and what if my opponent was spamming mines (which seems it will be the meta of the game )
mchl12: Then it is still possible to deduce some information
struct: ^
Illedan: Make sure you gain more information than they gain :)
eulerscheZahl: but i do a full reset of all paths on surface
eulerscheZahl: that way i lose the mine history
struct: what about states?
mchl12: Well, just don't do a full reset ;)
eulerscheZahl: my state: tired, getting ready for bed
phaberthur: :sleeping:
pb4: You guys change your actions if they'll reveal your position to the opponent ?
mchl12: Yes, all of them
AntiSquid: nice 2 point lead
phaberthur: lol yall so smart
pb4: Seems hard to implement :/
AntiSquid: ofc phaberthur, thanks for noticing
phaberthur: anytime
phaberthur: lol
mchl12: My wr vs egaetan isn't even that high, I think I just perform better versus the other high-ranked players.
phaberthur: my code consists of whatever the original code is
mchl12: I have like <50% vs egaetan I thhink
AntiSquid: RPS
phaberthur: how to make my submarine go to location on grid?
AntiSquid: MOVE and then N S W E
phaberthur: what about coordinates?
AntiSquid: it's one cell at a time
phaberthur: oof
AntiSquid: so to move up: MOVE N
phaberthur: yeah but so many different maps how do i know what to do
kingofnumbers: phaberthur, what language do you use?
phaberthur: javascript
phaberthur: its what i want to learn
kingofnumbers: do you know dfs, bfs?
AntiSquid: phaberthur watch some streams regarding this contest, i am sure it will help you:
https://discordapp.com/channels/466965651135922206/472807181163429890
AntiSquid: not sure if any of the streamers got out of wood2 yet though
phaberthur: tbh idk any i just want to learn javascript so its what i use
kingofnumbers: phaberthur, this contest is not a good choice to learn programming languages
phaberthur: lol
AntiSquid: only learn javascript ?
AntiSquid: what do you want to use it for?
phaberthur: bro i dont even know javascript
AntiSquid: kingofnumbers but that's what i did
AntiSquid: python first used in contest, same with java, same with c++ :p
phaberthur: what is the easiest
AntiSquid: how else do you learn unless you're forced to?
AntiSquid: python imo phaberthur
phaberthur: ok
phaberthur: i think i like java better though and it is most common used
phaberthur: javascript i mean
AntiSquid: depends on the website
AntiSquid: do you want to create websites btw? what's your motivation to learn javascript ?
phaberthur: idk i just think it makes most sence
AntiSquid: try out freecodecamp.com
AntiSquid: its main focus is javascript
phaberthur: is the initial coding good or should i change everything?
AntiSquid: that's like an existential question
mchl12: If you mean the provided code for contests, it works for getting the input. You probably still need to save most of it into variables though.
phaberthur: ok
phaberthur: i think im gonna take a break from competing and just practice lol
struct: its a better choice if you are just starting
phaberthur: lol second day to code
AntiSquid: no, that's the wrong attitude, better man up and get 1st place in the contest! ask AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the problem with the same score as the opponent on the left of t
phaberthur: even easy is confusing
AntiSquid: a lot of tracking to do, yes
phaberthur: coding is hard to learn
phaberthur: :sad:
phaberthur: :cry:
AntiSquid: tough life
phaberthur: lol
phaberthur: i found out why we havent landed on mars yet LOL
icecream17: hmmm... i wonder what happens in a tie. a tie would be amazing.
phaberthur: lol
icecream17: After 3 days im finally 28th in wood2!
phaberthur: im 342 in wood 2
icecream17: oh what's happenning?
phaberthur: idk how to code at all
icecream17: did you know you can delete the boss to battle other players?
phaberthur: lol no, it wouldnt matter like i said i cant code so i would still lose
phaberthur: i cant even land on mars and this is an easy level
phaberthur: finally i did it yay
Scarfield: :muscle:
Quidome: How is the silence part working especially the meaning of: (not visiting already visited cells or islands)
Scarfield: you cannot end on or go over a cells previously visited, without surfacing first
Aviolezt: lol
Quidome: aha, so normal movement rules, only faster :)
Scarfield: yup :)
icecream17: i'm on wood2, but from what i've heard silence is like secret teleportation
phaberthur: ive never even heard of silence
icecream17: silence is for when you beat wood2. and my comment was too late and looks out of order
phaberthur: ok
icecream17: you can travel up to 4 blocks or something in 1 turn and your opponent doesn't wknow where
Quidome: sonar doesnt look that usefull at first sight...
AntiSquid: silence = skip wood1
icecream17: oh yeah, phaberthur, in the first few minutes you could use the starting code and beat wood2. lucky
phaberthur: cool
Uljahn: bosses were broken then
egaetan: mchl12
egaetan: yes you are under 50% http://cgstats.magusgeek.com/app/ocean-of-code/mchl12
egaetan: but i'm under 50% vs you too
egaetan: one of us should resubmit
AntiSquid: might be 10% draws
egaetan: limit of games we can retrieve through leaderboard
egaetan: i've got 23 games/ mchl12 only 11
muy31: when opponent uses sonar do they get where I am on the turn I learn they use sonar or the turn right before
mchl12: The result of sonar is determined on the moment you use it
muy31: i am not the one using sonar
muy31: my opponent is
tonowak: yes
muy31: what does he see?
tonowak: it works in the same way
aCat: the state on the moment he used it
muy31: do i know that he has used sonar the moment he uses sonar, or do i kow the turn after?
Hup: I'm attempting the temperatures puzzle and I have a question: Do I need to write code that will perform all test cases or do I need to re-write per test case?
Hup: Hello
muy31: don't bruteforce
muy31: write one that will work no matter the testcase
muy31: *hard code i meant
mchl12: Someone uses sonar on a sector, the result is determined the moment they use it. It becomes 'Y' if the opponent is in the sector and 'N' if the opponent is not in the sector. The next turn they will get to see what the result was.
phaberthur: this is so hard the code is so long
muy31: So: A) opponent uses SONAR B) I see SONAR in opponentOrders C) opponent gets result?
muy31: b, not sunglasses
mchl12: i like the sunglasses
mchl12: this order is correct
muy31: so when I see SONAR in opponentOrders, have I yet moved from the position I was when the opponent used SONAR/
muy31: ?
tonowak: Someone uses sonar on a sector, the result is determined the moment they use it. It becomes 'Y' if the opponent is in the sector and 'N' if the opponent is not in the sector. The next turn they will get to see what the result was.
muy31: bruh
mchl12: No, you haven't moved yet when you see SONAR in opponentOrders.
muy31: okay thx I think that makes sense
tonowak: no problem, glad I was helpful
muy31: ...
tonowak: :P
mchl12: tonowak is always so helpful <3
tonowak: though if you say what you didn't understand in the rule definitions, maybe it would be possible to change it to make it more understandable
muy31: yeah
muy31: but i understood it, but i couln'd visualize it
muy31: at this moment
muy31: oh yeah what league does POWER come in to play?
muy31: so far it does nothing
muy31: nvm
tonowak: what is POWER?
tonowak: ok
muy31: that was dumb
muy31: charge
muy31: that is charge
muy31: they should just call it charge
tonowak: it isn't called at all
AntiSquid: didn't bother reading the statement, but i thought that's what they use, "charge"
muy31: no they use "power"
tonowak: no they don't
muy31: MOVE direction POWER
muy31: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a31cbafe-c016-4422-bbc1-c769f26232ad
tonowak: they never named the "charge" thing. They mentioned it *charges* a *power*
AntiSquid: ah yes
tonowak: a power is torpedo/sonar
AntiSquid: so they call it power then :D
muy31: yeah it was dumb question
muy31: my bad
AntiSquid: they could use charge instead
muy31: they could
mchl12: using POWER causes your submarine to take 1 less damage from all sources for 1 turn
AntiSquid: or they're undecided whether power or charge is best
tonowak: AntiSquid they don't call it power. Nor charge. They never named it in the description. It charges a power. That's the only thing they say
muy31: it is both!
muy31: dun dun dun
AntiSquid: MOVE direction POWER => they do call it power -.-
AntiSquid: it's in the statement
AntiSquid: they caps it, because it's a keyword
tonowak: do you write MOVE N POWER or MOVE N TORPEDO?
tonowak: torpedo is a power
AntiSquid: it's how the statement is generally formatted, caps = keyword
AntiSquid: ya i get what you are saying, but for the statement it works like that
muy31: ... exiting the scene
muy31: i was never here
tonowak: everything that is capitalized you hardcode it in the output, but not POWER. That's an exception, that's why it does not mean it is called power
tonowak: though, I also get what you are saying
muy31: therefore we agree
muy31: the end
tonowak: kind of...
muy31: sorry for wasting your time
tonowak: :P
muy31: :'
muy31: :)
muy31: how did i screw that up?
AntiSquid: tonowak i was sure i've seen something similar in another game, could be i have false memories and these guys didn't stick to the usual way of formatting
Astrobytes: It was also a prototype from some time ago I believe, and was rushed out in 2 days so... bound to be an inconsistency or 2
AntiSquid: didn't make any improvements for a day, dropped 60 ranks
AntiSquid: people are getting serious !
tonowak: yeah, I dropped from first place to 15h, by doing nothing for three days :(
AntiSquid: :thumbsup:
tonowak: though I'm starting to finally include the mines in my code. I completely ignored them, both from my side and my opponent's side
mchl12: including mines in my bot put it from 8th to 1st, the impact is pretty big
tonowak: mchl12 do you try to evade the mines?
Illedan: Any high ranked players in ooc around?
ZarthaxX: ask tommorrow
ZarthaxX: :P
Illedan: :P
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8396250c21e3f21e3bd77a4e567e27e40c488e
I just need someone to submit in Bronze in this version. So that I can track bugs before I release it.
pb4: Illedan ?
pb4: What do you need ?
pb4: submitted in leagues 3 and 4
AntiSquid: submit can only be in 1 league at a time
PYB: why the hell are some problems so goddam complicated
PYB: 15 minutes is not long enough for some of them
PYB: tired of this shit
icecream17: 15 minutes?
Astrobytes: try the contest, you got 25 days :P
icecream17: 7th place, fixed 2 bugs....
AntiSquid: and 2500 times the headache
Astrobytes: :D
PYB: clash of code is 15
PYB: some problems are interesting, but demand A LOT of code, hence why 15 minutes isnt in some case
PYB: just frustrating
Astrobytes: "Fix it, ezpz" ™
PYB: ?
Astrobytes: Sorry. "Fix it" "ezpz", CG memes
Astrobytes: ask MadKnight
YannT: Illedan: submited too
YannT: all of the markers on the replay are ridiculous :o
struct: What do you mean?
YannT: new versions has a marker on every action apparently
YannT: it's unreadable :(
YannT: https://i.imgur.com/8fWiPmC.png
icecream17: Wow. I charged for the third time and moved forward.
icecream17: Then my opponent shot me and moved justt enough so that I couldn't shoot back.
icecream17: Because of a coincidental wall.
Zenoscave: eulerscheZahl are you on?
chinH27: hello BSoD
icecream17: https://www.codingame.com/replay/442424416
chinH27: virus?
TheoreticalScone_afaa: hi
chinH27: hello
jiniiii: hi
HMu0510: hi
Gooddae: ni hao
TheoreticalScone_afaa: my problem help
Gooddae: whats it?
Gooddae: sorry but im nobb
Gooddae: noob*
TheoreticalScone_afaa: what?
TheoreticalScone_afaa: 나영어 못해요
TheoreticalScone_afaa: 살려줘요
TheoreticalScone_afaa: 코딩어려워요
TheoreticalScone_afaa: sorry
Gooddae: i cant speak korean
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: i told you Fuck Off Gooddae
Gooddae: oh my
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: Dont speak chinese
Gooddae: ni cao ni ma
Gooddae: si bu si ma
Zenoscave: Can I ask all of you one thing?
TheoreticalScone_afaa: ok
Gooddae: you can but im a beginner
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: Shut up
TheoreticalScone_afaa: talk
syoon: gongbu haja
chinH27: speak english please
Gooddae: syoon jjin dda
syoon: ?
jiniiii: syoon is real
syoon: ????
Zenoscave: why do you all act so childish. What does it get you other than to look like fools
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 헐 한국인이네 누구냐?
syoon: 준원이형?
Zenoscave: seriously I don't understand
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 한국인끼리 니하오 ㅇㅈㄹ
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 개념 탑재 플리즈
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: ㅇㅋ?
jiniiii: 웅
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 아니 굿대
Gooddae: ??
Zenoscave: #general_ko
TheoreticalScone_afaa: zenoscabve sorry
chinH27: o español hablen
syoon: syoon is real = 찐승윤?
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 굿대 모른척 오졌죠?
HMu0510: 왜이렇게 화가많으세요 ㄷ
Gooddae: speak korean
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 찐따라고 쓴 시점부터 한국인인거 판명났는데
Gooddae: what?
Gooddae: 아니 왜케 공격적이세요 ㅋㅋ
Gooddae: 죄송합니다..
Gooddae: 제가 잘못했어요
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 아니 왤케 개념이 없으세요
Gooddae: 한국인이 ni hao 하면 ㅇㅈㄹ 박아도돼요?
Zenoscave: I don't think you actually speak Korean
Zenoscave: you keep repeating the same illiterate nonsense over and over
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 외국인이 동양인 비하하는줄알았죠
syoon: sorry
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: We seriously speak Korean
Zenoscave: Ok cool. do it on a different channel then
Zenoscave: #general_kr
syoon: ok. have a nice day
Gooddae: 수다떤거 미안하지만 아무한테나 ㅇㅈㄹ박는 본인부터 신경쓰세요
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: h
icecream17: So close! 3rd place...
icecream17: YAS!
Zenoscave: What game/league?
Zenoscave: gz
icecream17: Wood 2 of ocean of code
Zenoscave: nice
icecream17: I don't exactly know what I should do for sonar and silence.
Zenoscave: work on tracking the other players possible possitions first
TheMysteriousCube_4a5a: 혹시 굿대 아카데미 사람?
icecream17: Huh. I didn't do anything but my place updated to 40/129
Zenoscave: Wood1 is fairly easy compared to wood 2
Zenoscave: for some reason
icecream17: i was in the contest from the start though...
Zenoscave: Well have you done many contests before?
icecream17: no
Zenoscave: many of these players have, so they know the tricks and tips to get high quick
Zenoscave: is this your first contest?
icecream17: yes
Zenoscave: even making it out of wood 2 (and soon wood 1 ;) ) is an accomplishment. Challenge against yourself not others. it tends to be more fun that way
icecream17: ok
icecream17: so up, down, left, right only? [silence]
Zenoscave: yes. but up to 4 moves away
Zenoscave: but all up or all dow, etc.
carnato: launch
carnato: bsdk
stalynPunk: hi
