GroutchKeu: o/
Darleanow: o/
talkingjerry: can anyone help me with the descent
Darleanow: ofc sir !
Darleanow: what's ur problem ?
talkingjerry: i dont know how to do this
talkingjerry: im new btw sir
Darleanow: i know !
Darleanow: it's not the easiest one when u're a begineer
Darleanow: i'd suggest to maybe try thor before
talkingjerry: oh okay sir thank you very much
Darleanow: np :)
ellen_lu: what do i do for the temperature one
Darleanow: not the easiest one too :)
Darleanow: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/power-of-thor-episode-1
Darleanow: this one !
Darleanow: just simple logic
Darleanow: easy like "hello world"
ellen_lu: okay! thank you!!
ellen_lu: oh, i already did the thor one. im just confused for the temperature on how to make a for i in statement
Darleanow: okay so
Darleanow: you can do multiple types of for i
Darleanow: the first is with numbers
Darleanow: for i in range(10)
Darleanow: will print number from 0 to 9
Darleanow: the last number is n-1, but it will loop 10 times !
Darleanow: also, for example if you want to loop over a string or a list
Darleanow: you do a for i in
Darleanow: and it will iterate through each element of the string/list
Darleanow: anyone is doing/did brain fork ? how do we deal with spaces ?
Darleanow: i tried to check if i wasnt a space, but getting an IndexError
DaNinja: set space=0, A=1, etc
Darleanow: thankjs :)
derjack: :upside_down:
derjack: is this the last day of chat?
Nadeshiko: hi everyone
Nadeshiko: have a good day!
TurushkinStanislav: what is easiest game here
derjack: mad pod racing?
Nadeshiko: some clashes are super short...
derjack: shortest mode? :thinking:
TurushkinStanislav: i dont understand i change angle nothing happens
TurushkinStanislav: =\
Nadeshiko: :flushed:
derjack: youre supposed to give x y thrust
j4at: search race is an easier version of mad pod racing
DomiKo: wait
DomiKo: optim as vote event?
DomiKo: they will show the best solutions to optim?
derjack: oh my
j4at: THEY WILL SHOW THE BEST SOLUTION ?? THEY WILL SHOW THE CODE ?
j4at: I think they will reveal best solutions during the event
j4at: like a leaderboard
DomiKo: yes they show the codes
j4at: damn
DomiKo: they did it for standard puzzles
wlesavo: DomiKo was discussed yearsterday, but no official comment
DomiKo: ok ok
wlesavo: one point westicles made there is no publish button for optim
j4at: calssic puzzles are not ranked tho
j4at: classic*
fahad_almaani: hi progeammersas dawwd awdca
Crosility: Was suppose to visit family Friday. Car dies wednesday. Murphys law in effect again.
HoangH7: Hello
Uljahn: there is an official statement on the event by Thibaud on discord: "So I've set the review start date as the end date so this phase shouldn't happen and no solutions could be shared."
j4at: nice
jacek: dat ux
j4at: I found a small bug in my search race. I'm getting 12k with the bug, Hopefully top 10 after I fix it :)
jacek: nn?
j4at: yeah
j4at: I'm using RL
j4at: what about you ?
jacek: evolution strategies
j4at: Oh, I was actually going to add evolution strategies after training using RL
jacek: https://github.com/nnaisense/pgpelib + clipUp its pretty hyperparameter-free
j4at: cool
neguinOfSenai: hello
delon10: Hello, in Mad Pod Racing how am I supposed to use the command BOOST in my code ?
Crosility: store if boost been used or not.
Crosility: if not, instead of thrust, output boost
Crosility: set used to true
delon10: But how does my pod will know when to use it ?
Crosility: you tell it when..
Aldoggen: do you want to know how to use it or when to use it?
Crosility: I set a conditional my first implementation, based on distance to next checkpoint.
Aldoggen: ^ me too
delon10: oh okay so I just store BOOST as a bool and when used it becomes True
delon10: so it can't be used again
delon10: thanks guys
Aldoggen: if you've already boosted, boost just gets changed to 100% thrust, so there's not much harm in using it whenever
Aldoggen: except you should probably just store it
xx_zero: hey guys
xx_milana: are we ready to CLASH
xx_holly: YASSSS QUUEEN SLAY
xx_holly: GLOBAL CLASH
xx_holly: LETS GOOO
xx_zero: SO REAL
CRyo: guys, is there a way to split a string in javascript without excluding the parameter passed to split()?
D1LAN: waggers
Smai: :rofl:
CRyo: nvm, i think i found it
xx_holly: Slay?
jacek: j4at do you use discrete actions?
Westicles: 4 1-stars for kiss the girls! the #fr are circling their wagons
jacek: french kiss the girls?
Westicles: o.O
j4at: jacek didn't use discrete actions in cg yet
j4at: but I did in the past
j4at: I'm going to use discrete actions for the event proably
j4at: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/16a78514-a31c-491c-9474-d56e747d3d70
j4at: https://pastebin.com/raw/cjf2MV2h
jacek: mhm
j4at: jacek are you using discrete actions in SR ?
jacek: no
j4at: :thumbsup:
jacek: oh my https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/angZQ65_700bwp.webp
jacek: reminds me of sc2021
therealbeef: will green circle become a multi?
Nikanameu: was it fun
MAWAAW: guys is this algorithm linear in complexity ? https://pastebin.com/AAF6LLAY
Aldoggen: time complexity?
Aldoggen: it's linear in time
Aldoggen: not constant in space though
Westicles: therealbeef you need to approve it
Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1925595a4355ed9c38b46dbc5053f872bd693
eulerscheZahl: then we have to resubmit our bots? and get new bosses?
eulerscheZahl: or all woods again?
jacek: "Fix the TASK_PRIORIZATION possible moves" :heart:
eulerscheZahl: you have to start training from scratch
jacek: *2 hours later*
eulerscheZahl: in squdward vioce?
eulerscheZahl: i forgot an i
jacek: v44: should be the final one ... V53
eulerscheZahl: the final final one
jujurocking: v51 with (I hope) the last fixes
eulerscheZahl: i like his confidence
struct: so its the game getting released or is it like coif?
Astrobytes: looks like coif-style
Astrobytes: Yes, bisou is asking us to check it out and let him know if any further fixes/improvements are needed
struct: well it looks better now the animations
iggy12345: hey struct, I don't know if you saw my question earlier, but for othello, are the boards always the same size?
struct: yes they are
iggy12345: sweet, thank you
jacek: 29 :tada:
struct: Where jacek?
jacek: lvl
struct: oh grats
HenroLST: Nice!
Astrobytes: iggy12345: I answered you but it was kinda late
HenroLST: would someone be willing to explain the logic behind how to solve a puzzle to me? I understand what to do, but not how to do
Aldoggen: below the place where you write code, you can see some buttons to execute test cases
Aldoggen: to solve the puzzle you need to pass all test cases
HenroLST: oops, i meant the actual puzzle itself :sweat_smile:
HenroLST: avtually i think i found something im going to try
Aldoggen: okay, your question sounds vague to me, so I'm just gonna say what I do. I read the statement on the left. then I think of a strategy for a minute. longer if needed. then I start coding and try to pass the test cases
Aldoggen: or do you mean how to pass a specific puzzle? can you tell me the name?
HenroLST: its the stock exchange losses, sorry about the vauge wording
HenroLST: but i think i figured it out?
Aldoggen: test cases will be the judge of that :)
HenroLST: yup, im praying this works
Ayza: HenroLST, basically you are given testcases to test your code, when you pass all of them you are supposed to submit then there will be validators (hidden testcases to avoid hardcoding) to validate your code and finally give you your score :slight_smile:
Ayza: if thats your question
Aldoggen: he was asking for a strategy for a specific puzzle
Ayza: ah I see
HenroLST: yup, sorry about the vague wording of my question, thanks for responding though!
Aldoggen: np man :)
HenroLST: :slight_smile:
Aldoggen: lol I wrote up a solution real quick but it stalls at the last test case
Aldoggen: quadratic time complexity is not enough apparently
HenroLST: hm
Crosility: Just did a CoC, that just was too hard to implement answer in C in 15 minutes.
Astrobytes: Green circle seems ready to go
Aldoggen: I do my code challenges in python. wouldn't want to do em in c or java
eulerscheZahl: if you are sure about it Astrobytes, approve it
eulerscheZahl: i didn't review it yet. most probably it's fine but no approval without review
Astrobytes: From my testing it seems OK but I'm not approving it until others have tested it too
Astrobytes: afk
wlesavo: is there a way to extract the latest version of code i submitted? i was not serious about this contest so i mostly coded in CG ide
Crosility: Aldoggen - I'm trying to force-improve some C smoothness. Try to rely less on for loops and if-else if-else trees
struct: https://www.codingame.com/contests/finished
struct: Then click view report wlesavo
wlesavo: oh thx
Aldoggen: Crosility aah all right :) imo CoC is not really the right tool for that, but you do you.
Crosility: I do all the different things on the site. As well as Win programming outside of this.
jacek: win!?
Crosility: You gotta practice all facets. Quick execution vs slow and methodical. Vs optimization.
Crosility: Like, there's the times where, you gotta optimize between "the best way" and a good way. Because it execution becomes too much.
Crosility: Then you have CoC, where you gotta solve, sometimes, theoretically difficult challenge in a time limit.
wlesavo: what will happen with bosses after the release? rn in contrib the first league boss seems to be the golden boss (or just some strong bot), while league 3 is dummy, is that ok?
struct: you mean boss 1?
wlesavo: yes
struct: its not the gold boss, its releasing apps on 1st turn
wlesavo: oh ok
eulerscheZahl: you will be back to wood
wlesavo: so it is just some bots without any meaning for now?
eulerscheZahl: and wood1 as the highest league
wlesavo: oh, ok
eulerscheZahl: a disappointment, i must admin
eulerscheZahl: admit
jacek: so the multi will not have my boss? :(
struct: ah 1st league has no automated
struct: was wondering what my bot was doing
struct: oh not even play phase
struct: oh well
wlesavo: also, will it be only 4/4 apps in wood1 or similar to the bronze?
struct: it was always 5
wlesavo: oh you can submit in different leagues
wlesavo: indeed only 4/4 in the last one
eulerscheZahl: it's always like that in testing
eulerscheZahl: see? https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/843364c35de5a48f4e0de3a6e0720b74d11b1a
wlesavo: yeah, i think i even new this, but its been too long since i tested smth in contrib
wlesavo: knew
StevenV: well, when will we have green circle as a multi?
eulerscheZahl: when 3 people click on approve
StevenV: can I click on approve for green-circle?
eulerscheZahl: yes, i have that button
StevenV: and isn't that the contest will be convert into multi without the need of approve?
eulerscheZahl: was not an official contest
StevenV: ah
eulerscheZahl: i hoped that they would still just move it over to the multiplayer section and keep the bots
eulerscheZahl: higher bosses will be gone too
StevenV: well
eulerscheZahl: and everyone of the 1700 participants has to resubmit
StevenV: will it still have lengend league?
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: wood1 will the the highest
StevenV: :(
wlesavo: there goes my plans on storming legend
wlesavo: ill probably rather will do smth else
StevenV: I don't have time to implement a good bot in the contest
eulerscheZahl: oh, read comments
https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1925595a4355ed9c38b46dbc5053f872bd693
wlesavo: oh nice
StevenV: and I can't get to legend on green-circle anymore :(
StevenV: I hope that CG can keep the leagues and the bots too
DevMarcao: is it possible to enable dark mode here?
struct: it doesnt seem that it will happen StevenV
struct: yes DevMarcao
struct: open the ide of any puzzle and go to settings on the left
StevenV: isn't Thibaud is checking with the technical team?
struct: how do you know?
StevenV: the latest comement:
https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1925595a4355ed9c38b46dbc5053f872bd693
StevenV: of Sebastien
StevenV: so lvl20+ can approve the mult right?
struct: yes
struct: But it gets released as a brand new multi, no players, no leagues
StevenV: Hope CG could do sth different for Green-circle
eulerscheZahl: and i would still review it as slight changes were made. i assume that all works correctly but i'm not a fan of rushed approvals. at the same time i don't want to review now, so I'll let others do the work for me
StevenV: yup, we should review it with Green IT philosophy
therealbeef: and what is that exactly?
StevenV: I rember top 1 create a lot of technical dev and do a lot of CI
StevenV: so Green IT = technical dev + CI :D
StevenV: sorry
StevenV: technical debt
therealbeef: and 'life's just random, deal with it'
StevenV: yup
StevenV: So I I can, I would review randomly and approve by tossing a coin
StevenV: ok, so what is the fastest way to increase my lvl without any cheat?
therealbeef: solving puzzles gains a lot of XP
therealbeef: (the official ones)
StevenV: how about achivements?
therealbeef: some are easy to get, but don't give much XP
StevenV: thanks
therealbeef: very hard puzzles give 500 xp or more
StevenV: and take weeks to solve
therealbeef: true, but it shouldn't be too easy to gain high level
Uljahn: the difficulty varies, also your background matters
eulerscheZahl: what's not worth it for XP farming: creating complex puzzles or multiplayer games. gives the same XP as a clash
StevenV: :|
struct: writing the statement for a multi should be 500xp alone
StevenV: :D
Astrobytes: didn't they add leagues to coif though?
struct: They did but people had to resubmit
Astrobytes: Better than no leagues at all
StevenV: coif?
Astrobytes: Code of Ice & Fire
StevenV: ah, thanks
Astrobytes: np
Astrobytes: the acronyms get confusing
eulerscheZahl: maybe we finally get the wala boss
Astrobytes: hehehe
darkhorse64: 2 more to go !
StevenV: wala boss?
darkhorse64: 2 more approvals, I mean
StevenV: you get the bot of wala for a game?
eulerscheZahl: you understand nothing
eulerscheZahl: they opened legend in the contest. they have a script to pick the boss
darkhorse64: For that, we need CG to do the right thing
Astrobytes: It was when the error happened with legend league opening StevenV. wala was top in gold and became the boss
eulerscheZahl: it was faulty, so they took #1 for boss
Astrobytes: na na :D
eulerscheZahl: let's call it a draw, astro
Astrobytes: meh
eulerscheZahl: i sandwiched you with the explanation
darkhorse64: nb_of _players in gold / 200 = 0. Oops
Astrobytes: I'll let you have the draw
StevenV: ah
eulerscheZahl: may StevenV decide if it's a draw then
Astrobytes: That may require further explanation
eulerscheZahl: not competing to explain that
StevenV: so I do a coin toss?
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: If you like. I'll go heads
eulerscheZahl: i take the building then
StevenV: https://flipsimu.com/?id=fyDbq
StevenV: well this is the result
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://www.random.org/coins/?num=1&cur=60-usd.0100c-anthony
eulerscheZahl: do you have a head or a building on your coins?
Astrobytes: You win euler :tada:
Astrobytes: Head on one side (the 'up' side)
StevenV: TAIL and Head
Astrobytes: Other side 'tails' varies
eulerscheZahl: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/coins/common/shared/img/de/Germany_10cent.jpg
eulerscheZahl: wanted to spice it up by guessing how their coins look like
Astrobytes: I knew what you meant ;)
StevenV: :D
Nikanameu: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
iamsofia_rless: hy
jacek: whats with card games contributions lately
Westicles: jacek why are you losing to me?
Astrobytes: 3 wins vs you jacek, what is going on
Astrobytes: 4
Astrobytes: 5
eulerscheZahl: oh, it got approved
eulerscheZahl: you play wood leages astro, that's going on
eulerscheZahl: i lose vs boss
eulerscheZahl: timeout :D
eulerscheZahl: my contest bot had this issue too
eulerscheZahl: RIP mirror matches
eulerscheZahl: oh right: we can't automate
Astrobytes: ah yeah
eulerscheZahl: my bot doesn't work like this :poop:
eulerscheZahl: i guess i'll be a wood noob then. getting hungry
eulerscheZahl: oh, should try 1st action
Westicles: ha, let's just freeze it here
wlesavo: there wont be mirrors for multi?
Astrobytes: apparently not? No idea why. Maybe if they introduce proper leagues they'll do that too
wlesavo: may be only in the wood1?
struct: Only cg can add mirrored
Astrobytes: And leagues. That's who I mean.
YurkovAS: where my +4k CP? :thinking:
jacek: i just print 1st action
jacek: and how come there are 4 wood leagues? there were only 2 and bronze?
Astrobytes: Thibaud is checking with the devs if we can get proper leagues...
R37r0-Hac53r: hello there
jacek: you mean yours silver and mine legend
Astrobytes: Yes jacek.
Westicles: wood2 come at me bro
R37r0-Hac53r: what's up
R37r0-Hac53r: ?
jacek: sky!
mannouao: do have the same gold boos from the contest (Green Circle) in the boot programming ?
jacek: not now. its being discussed with the staff
mannouao: thanks boss :joy:
jacek: i shall delete account https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/648462756
Astrobytes: :grin:
Westicles: something wrong with w2 boss I would guess
mannouao: it is week or strong w2 boss ?
wlesavo: darkhorse64 just saw your comment on playground, somehow there is no notifications for me on cg from there, i answered if you still interested =)
FlyingCow: could anyone approve or review my clash https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/23082426330b08cf05c30641e8564813241a9?comment=77057
eulerscheZahl: that one again?
FlyingCow: I just need one more approval
Wishbone: Mathematically speaking, isn't a triangle valid even if it has two angles of 0 and one of 180?
Wishbone: Granted, you can't see it as anything but a line visually, but mathematically speaking it is still three segments connected at the ends.
mannouao: Westicles why you didn't beat the w2 boss ???
Astrobytes: isn't area something to do with the definition Wishbone?
Westicles: no idea
mannouao: you win every time vs him
Wishbone: Astrobytes: Area = 0.
Astrobytes: That's what I mean, it needs area to be a triangle
Astrobytes: mathematically speaking
jacek: degenerate triangle
Astrobytes: I see, fair
struct: I only know that it needs at least 4 sides to be a triangle
Wishbone: jacek, yes, apparently that is the term.
Astrobytes: we don't use those in cell biology :P
eulerscheZahl: promoted with first action
Astrobytes: ugh
JFB: to legend???
eulerscheZahl: to wood3
JFB: uff
eulerscheZahl: oof
jacek: nyoro~n
Astrobytes: ouph
Westicles: darkhorse64 what is going on
eulerscheZahl: you'll get kicked in what fr calls you soon enough
Wishbone: Why do people go out of their way to use silly characters in the inputs of puzzles?
Astrobytes: boules de l'ouest?
Astrobytes: Or is there a more insulting recent one?
Wishbone: From the Logic Gates puzzle: "Signals are represented with underscore and minus characters, an undescore matching a low level (0, or false) and a minus matching a high level (1, or true)"
Westicles: mostly just W, but they call wonton that as well and confuse each other
Wishbone: Why not just use 0 and 1 then?
Wishbone: It seems like the first part of most puzzles is to convert deliberately awkward data points into useable ones.
Wishbone: That gets old really quick.
mannouao: where is w1 boss ?
eulerscheZahl: there is none, only CG can add leagues above wood
mannouao: whay spider attack have leagues above wood ?
Astrobytes: It was an official contest. This one was a hybrid of sponsored and community-made contest
mannouao: ow i see thanks
diddy449: is it possible to write direct messages to other people who are not online?
bendabizadam: Hello guys
bendabizadam: what do u think bout the questions
bendabizadam: i'm having an interview in few minutes
Westicles: up to 5 1-stars. somebody brought their brother-in-law in
jacek: oO
Westicles: maybe it will get deleted and I can submit it again :thinking:
PatrickMcGinnisII: every1 in wood4 is beating each other up
jacek: Automaton2000 huh
Automaton2000: we are the only one
Westicles: Stoi l'huh
jacek: w00t
jacek: how many tacos did you eat today, Automaton2000?
Automaton2000: or you can play against your bot
PatrickMcGinnisII: Automaton2000 Is there always room for jello?
Automaton2000: i would also need to make it worse
jk_java: looking for comments on a contribution
jk_java: it deals with musical notation and transposition, should be fun for CoC
jk_java: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/20739e7af87e7682761095576937ba9196bba
PatrickMcGinnisII: Automaton2000 can u make it worse?
Automaton2000: i know a little bit you might be looking at a too micro level
PatrickMcGinnisII: Automaton2000 if my GF was a contract, then she would be the fine print.
Automaton2000: because you dont have to do all of them
eulerscheZahl: complicated to understand?
Wishbone: jk_java, comment posted.
GNye22: hey does anyone know how to pass the unpacking of a list to a function in python?
GNye22: I have a list of ascii values
GNye22: and I'm trying to print(chr(*list)) but it says it only takes on argument
Aldoggen: the problem is that chr only takes one argument
Aldoggen: you can use a list comprehension
jacek: struct frame 6 i bet the only reason i lost ;v https://www.codingame.com/replay/648482724
Aldoggen: print(*[chr(c) for c in list])
Aldoggen: but I recommend not using list as a variable name
struct: lol jacek
SanMendes: could someone tell me how to repeat a challenge that appears in clash code?
GNye22: yeah i wasnt using that as the name lol just for my example
Aldoggen: all right
Aldoggen: jacek you won in that replay. am I missing something?
jacek: oh. so maybe thats why i won
Aldoggen: I don't know what you mean but all right :p
jacek: :upside_down:
visionspider: anyone understand this instruction?
visionspider: Return the Square of Sum of Numbers given
visionspider: It sounds so simple but I am not understanding lol
xGuGu: sum the numbers given and then square the sum
Astrobytes: sum the given nuimbers then square the result?
visionspider: yeah ive been doing this
visionspider: num * num
visionspider: then sqrt?
Ayza: not square root
jacek: what puzzle
visionspider: oh my bad
visionspider: i think i understand now
Astrobytes: I hope you do!
Astrobytes: :D
visionspider: so its addiition
visionspider: then square
Astrobytes: sum of == ?
Astrobytes: yes
jacek: :tada:
xGuGu: :thumbsup_tone1:
Astrobytes: think first, code second
Ayza: well said
eulerscheZahl: America first
Crosility: -.-
visionspider: its just i havent had to use math in a while so I lost some of my ability of translating plain english into math
MrZee: Math is the hardest language of all
Crosility: ... Welcome to programming/coding. Little bit of math, but complex concepts understanding is required :D
KarterFX: shhh
jacek: math, not even once
Crosility: Lol jacek. Such lies.
visionspider: I find that the instructions in code clash are sometimes poorly written.
jacek: :scream:
eulerscheZahl: they are!
eulerscheZahl: false incentives. a quest map asking every user to create a clash and to approve one
eulerscheZahl: too much work to keep up with moderation and correct those
eulerscheZahl: and then you give reasonable feedback what can be approved. and the next clown approves with "i like it"
Crosility: Well - the point it takes to REACH that node on the map, is pretty far in.
Astrobytes: ^^^^ this alllllllll day long
Astrobytes: (euler's comment)
eulerscheZahl: unfortunately my puzzle search website is offline for a few more hours. could show you a graph of new contributions over time
Astrobytes: Not far enough if you ask me Crosility :D
Ayza: for some reason none of them choose to reject contributions even though the roadmap clearly says they can
Ayza: so why approve a really bad contribution
Crosility: Probably not Astrobytes. BUT, hey, been here a month~ (Well, over 2 years by profile age). I've done at least a puzzle / day, and some optimization, AI, and a dozen clashes. I don't even have approval step done, let alone this "make a CoC".
Astrobytes: hehehe not criticizing Crosility
eulerscheZahl: psychology. when you refuse, the creator is sad
Crosility: I wonder though, what does the node say, get a CoC approved? OR just create one?
eulerscheZahl: when you approve, 100 clashers are. but those are "anonymous" to the approver
Ayza: you gotta get a coc approved Crosility
Ayza: If it was creating a contribution we'd get a lot of trolls
Astrobytes: like...
visionspider: Any thoughts on this : http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4f8689d2-68d4-4df1-b91a-ef9ce598ddc8
eulerscheZahl: and castles?
Crosility: visionspider, use actual pastebin website
Astrobytes: yes euler, you were later than I expected with that response
Ayza: trolls vs castles lol
visionspider: yeah i didnt try to use the pastebin it just auto pastebined it sadly
Ayza: talking about that I haven't seen it anymore
visionspider: input: cCnNoO
output: 1 3 5
Ayza: It automatically makes long text a pastebin visionspider
Astrobytes: visionspider: auto pastebins are broken I think, either use less linebreaks or use 'proper' pastebin
Ayza: as astro said
jacek: visionspider is this reverse?
Crosility: Is modulus (operator) a known term to all programmers? (Just curious)
Astrobytes: output uppercase letters?
visionspider: input: NunnjN32,.
output: 0 5
jacek: positions of uppercase letters
visionspider: its a reverse
visionspider: oh i see
visionspider: you are right
visionspider: im so blind
Astrobytes: jacek: slowpoke :P
jacek: oO
visionspider: i was thinking it was something related to the ASCII code and to subtract it
Astrobytes: Crosility: I would hope so
Ayza: probably Crosility
Ayza: well I did learn it after I got into codingame
Ayza: seen people using it
Astrobytes: visionspider: think simple first before complicating things
eulerscheZahl: Astrobytes 09:05ᴾᴹ
yes euler, you were later than I expected with that response
watching wolf of wall street
Astrobytes: ah, I love that movie
Crosility: But it's a fairly needed thing, so using it in a description, should be understood by the average programmer.
Crosility: Thanks, :P
Astrobytes: pretty sure I did something about modular arithmetic in school
Astrobytes: highschool I mean
Astrobytes: maybe it was later, who knows. But people should most definitely know what n % m represents
eulerscheZahl: in arithmetic school?
Astrobytes: Yes euler. Arithmetic school.
Wishbone: Astrobytes: integer division?
eulerscheZahl: comes between highschool and college
RiemannUchiha: wtf is arithmetic school ?
eulerscheZahl: modulo is the remainder of integer division
eulerscheZahl: 7 % 3 = 1
as 7 / 3 = 2 with 1 remaining
darkhorse64: Great! Triple jump with 3 lines added to the stub
visionspider: thanks for the advise
visionspider: advice*
Wishbone: Ah, I can never remember that operator. It is exceedingly rare that I need to use it.
visionspider: I tend to always overcomplicate
j4at: modulo is very useful
RiemannUchiha: maths* are very useful
visionspider: anyone here who primarly codes in Javascript?
Wishbone: j4at: Not in integration, which is my field of work.
Astrobytes: You do calculus for a living?
visionspider: im tired of looking at Python solutions, would like to play and compare to someone else who uses JS
jacek: make puzzles in js and see solutions of others
Wishbone: Astrobytes: Integration - the pursuit of facilitating communication between different computer systems.
Astrobytes: Wishbone: I was joking ;)
j4at: well maybe stop using js because it's not a real programming language
jacek: not about integrals?
Astrobytes: I never joke about integrals
visionspider: I can see others solutions in puzzles section?
RiemannUchiha: Actually as an applied mathematics engineer, without maths i can't eat bro
jacek: you feel indifferent about them?
visionspider: or only for puzzles i created?
Wishbone: Astrobytes: it can be hard to tell. Most people have no idea what I'm talking about when I tell them what I do ;-)
Wishbone: visionspider: JS is a war crime ;-)
jacek: visionspider yes, if you solve them
visionspider: oh ok ive solved a few
visionspider: let me check it out
Astrobytes: Wishbone: Considering I'm not even a proper dev I find that disturbing
visionspider: lol
jacek: j4at nice search race result
Wishbone: Astrobytes: You do know that "most people" aren't devs at all, right?
j4at: thank you :)
Astrobytes: If I didn't know what integration was I could get into management dammit
j4at: not good enough tho :p
Wishbone: Ugh, management...
visionspider: JS is easy, and a good precursor to TS
jacek: j4at youre ahead of toad, that should be enough
j4at: hehe
Wishbone: Man, I'm having to use TS at work right now. Hating that too.
visionspider: lol
visionspider: what do you normally use
Wishbone: I am NOT a frontend developer.
visionspider: I hear a lot from JS devs how java is a war crime
Wishbone: C# and SQL.
Astrobytes: Management across most disciplines is the same: atrociously unqualified people making decisions about things they have and do not care to have knowledge about
visionspider: oh you are a .NET user
visionspider: you can still do a backend with JS
Astrobytes: Java is a warcrime but compared to JS it's almost sane.
visionspider: lol
Wishbone: visionspider: I have absolutely no desire to use JS for ANYTHING ;-)
j4at: C# > python ~= C ~= C++ > JAVA ~= TS > JS
j4at: tier list
Wishbone: Not sure I'd equate C and C++...
Astrobytes: Every tool in its right place I say, use what you need, no more, no less
Wishbone: I've never used Python though.
visionspider: https://pics.me.me/drunk-member-this-is-my-favorite-javascript-language-redcoders-11-62100635.png
Astrobytes: lol, at least TS did something to that end
Wishbone: Yup, that's one of the reasons I hate JS. The damn inconsistencies.
visionspider: j4at you should add abap in that list lol
Wishbone: And don't get me started on JSON and REST...
visionspider: I hear a lot of JS devs who love rust though
Astrobytes: shouldn't that correct them out of using JS?
visionspider: depends on work i guess
struct: Those are devs that just dont want to say they like C++
visionspider: lol
Astrobytes: Wouldn't the borrow checker beat down JS devs until they cried?
Wishbone: Oh man, now you've got me thinking about all the langs/techs I have issues with :-(
Astrobytes: I'm only kidding anyway, like I say, tools are tools
Wishbone: Like LUA...
visionspider: I think one of the reasons it is loved is because of the generous errors?
Astrobytes: You can hammer a nail in with a wrench but...
eulerscheZahl: Wishbone 09:21ᴾᴹ
C# and SQL.
we have entity framework
visionspider: lol
Astrobytes: Yeah, anything but Lua
eulerscheZahl: and blazor. whatever it takes to avoid SQL and JS
Wishbone: eulerscheZahl ?
eulerscheZahl: Wishbone !
Astrobytes: Are you still using Blazor at work euler?
Wishbone: SQL is great. It's logical and does what it's supposed to.
eulerscheZahl: yes astro. even used it for a desktop application recently
Astrobytes: Nice!
eulerscheZahl: just a webview in WPF and blazor for everything inside
eulerscheZahl: wasn't even my idea to take that path but i like it
j4at: eulerscheZahl get good. You are behind me in search race
eulerscheZahl: you are behind me at STC, fix it
j4at: :(
Astrobytes: and fix your understanding of games euler cares about too j4at. ezpz
eulerscheZahl: i started using these, makes life really easy
https://mudblazor.com/components/table#api
eulerscheZahl: then i found a bug. turned out someone reported it on github 3 months ago, still no reaction :(
Wishbone: Nothing better than having to use non-maintained 3rd party frameworks :-D
eulerscheZahl: only 674 open issues :sweat_smile:
Astrobytes: damn, would be nice if that was maintained
eulerscheZahl: looks really pretty
eulerscheZahl: but then you do a basic thing like enabling virtualization in a large table (which is built-in and well documented). combine that with multi-select and in breaks on scrolling
Astrobytes: beats some python framework, bootstrap and times new roman
eulerscheZahl: it's based on materialize
eulerscheZahl: or just material? not sure about the name :D
eulerscheZahl: that's the one i stumbled over
https://github.com/MudBlazor/MudBlazor/issues/4321
Astrobytes: One is the google one and one is the other iirc
eulerscheZahl: they both exist? that explains my confusion
Astrobytes: iirc yes
eulerscheZahl: i'm a horrible frontend dev. all i know: it looks pretty
Astrobytes: back on track though, the Blazor desktop app setup seems cool. Beats HTA anyway :P :rofl:
eulerscheZahl: colleagues really liked it when i shared my screen. and that was a laggy screen sharing, even looks better with the animations when you use it on your own device
eulerscheZahl: there's only one thing i'm really sad about:
eulerscheZahl: there is .net MAUI for cross platform. android, ios, macos, windows
eulerscheZahl: just no linux
Astrobytes: I saw you or someone mention that recently
Astrobytes: Why though?
eulerscheZahl: linux is small in end users, probably not worth the time to build it
eulerscheZahl: they forget developers, linux is quite common there
Astrobytes: Seems kind of strange tbh, even with that explanation
eulerscheZahl: official statement was something like "we have a strong community how can do it for us"
Astrobytes: ah, that's the one
YurkovAS: Referee source code not available in block the spreading fire?
https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7604aa367ebf04432ec6bb6bcd4831ed6655
Astrobytes: "we can't be arsed, you do it if you want it so much"
Astrobytes: YurkovAS: do you need it?
Astrobytes: Rules seem simple enough
YurkovAS: yes, i'm use it for test with validators
PatrickMcGinnisII: Isn't it an optimization game? kinda defeats purpose
struct: it's not possible to download it, you can still get the validators though
struct: all you need to do is press test in ide
struct: on the contribution
Astrobytes: ^
Wishbone: Is it petty of me that it bugs me to no end that in the Logic Gates puzzle, the XNOR gate is called "NXOR"?
eulerscheZahl: not petty, reasonable
YurkovAS: eh. it is easier with a unit test: which itself will read all validators and test the bot
eulerscheZahl: i have no idea about the context but just reading NXOR annoys me
Wishbone: Good, it's not just me then.
eulerscheZahl: reminds me of Nixon
Astrobytes: I have never ever ever seen NXOR until today
Wishbone: Nor have I.
jacek: not even when you made NN?
Wishbone: Or should I say, XNOR have I :-D
jacek: :drum:
Astrobytes: you stole my joke theme!
eulerscheZahl: what puzzle is that?
Astrobytes: :D
Wishbone: Logic Gates
Astrobytes: this is the one with _ and - for 0 and 1?
Wishbone: Yes.
Wishbone: That's annoying too.
eulerscheZahl: Westicles approved, explain yourself ;)
Astrobytes: I remember seeing you post about it earlier, does that serve any purpose?
Astrobytes: lol euler, well played :D
Wishbone: What, posting about it?
Astrobytes: Wishbone: lol no, getting the input like that
Wishbone: It serves the purpose of letting me vent my frustrations :-D
Wishbone: No, no purpose. b0n5a1 apparently just decided that that was better than using 0 and 1. The output needs to be like that as well.
Astrobytes: oh if the output is like that, that makes a little more sense
Wishbone: Dunno if it's supposed to emulate testing individual logic gates using an oscilloscope.
Astrobytes: Quite possibly
Wishbone: But the goal description even says: "Signals are represented with underscore and minus characters, an undescore matching a low level (0, or false) and a minus matching a high level (1, or true)."
Astrobytes: there's no suitable vertical char other than |, so _|-|_
eulerscheZahl: wow, that's a funny issue
https://github.com/MudBlazor/MudBlazor/issues/4777
eulerscheZahl: maybe i should not rely on that framework for future projects
Astrobytes: Intriguing placement there
HenroLST: ...
struct: that puzzle was clash difficulty
struct: imo
struct: no math = clash
Astrobytes: RIGHT. Enough with this 'math' shit. It's 'maths' dammit! :D
Astrobytes: Mathematics!
Astrobytes: I would call chemistry chems if it was chemistries!
Astrobytes: but I call it chem cause it isn't!
Astrobytes: </rant>
struct: well in portuguese is Matemática
struct: no s
Astrobytes: Let me have my English-speaking moment!
Astrobytes: dammit
Wishbone: Either I'm stupid, or the puzzle discussion interface is really unintuitive.
Astrobytes: Anyway, that's acceptable. What about the americans?
Wishbone: For the life of me I can't figure out how to post a comment.
struct: I can't speak for Americans
PatrickMcGinnisII: countries = c*nts
Astrobytes: Wishbone: there is a lot wrong with the whole approval system tbh lol
Wishbone: In the "Discussions" tab on a puzzle.
struct: Wishbone which puzzle?
Wishbone: Logic Gates, but I assume the interface is the same for every puzzle. Otherwise this site is coded really weirdly.
struct: Was I supposed to solve that puzzle without using & | ^?
Astrobytes: ohhh wait, is this the disappearing comment submission forum bug again?
Wishbone: I can WRITE a post, but there does not appear to be any button to actually post it.
PatrickMcGinnisII: maybe it's wish's lvl
jacek: do you have get a job bar at the top
jacek: close it
Wishbone: No, should I?
jacek: oh
Astrobytes: They got rid of that jacek
Wishbone: Ohhh...
Astrobytes: apparently
jacek: something like that could hide the reply button
PatrickMcGinnisII: I can't mouseover wish's icon to see lvl
Wishbone: What the actual... That is some of the most shitty website design I've seen in quite a while.
Astrobytes: Please feel free to let them know Wishbone :D
struct: I dont leave the stc ide so its fine for me
Wishbone: And on a coding website, no less :-(
Aldoggen: I can't either
Astrobytes: struct: heheeh back at it again :D
struct: nah
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, if u are lvl 3 I don't think u can post. keep pissed off spammers fro... blah blah
Wishbone: But yes, closing the thing at the top (which said something completely different for me) made the window rise up, bringing the button onto the screen.
Astrobytes: Patrick, as far as I can tell Wishbone has not been spamming
Wishbone: I don't think I have either.
PatrickMcGinnisII: I just can't mouseovere their icon to get any info, that is wierd
Astrobytes: It happens a lot these days Patrick
jacek: is this the last hours of the chat?
Wishbone: It's not showing my portrait in the chat either.
Astrobytes: Not sure jacek, did they put a date on it? I think they said sometime in June
Astrobytes: Devs are at a conference currently (from Thibaud) so I guess we find out when they get back
Wishbone: What, is the chat getting removed?
j4at: yeah, sadly :(
Wishbone: Any explanation why?
HenroLST: wait whaaaa
Astrobytes: Expensive and/or resource-intensive to maintain or upgrade
jacek: supposed to be closed in mid june but keeps going
PatrickMcGinnisII: Isn';t there a list of lvl abilities somewhere....like lvl 3 allows chat, lvl 6 ... something ... lvl 20 ... something
Wishbone: I'm currently lvl 10, if that's helpful.
Astrobytes: Since the takeover by CoderPad they only have kinda limited resources to work on the free part of the site (this part) as the focus is on the profitable side (CGForWork)
Astrobytes: Sad for us but understandable in the scheme of things
Wishbone: Well, that will certainly lessen the site's appeal for me.
Astrobytes: Numerous solutions have been touted such as open-sourcing the chat to the community etc but although the will is there I doubt it will come to anything
PatrickMcGinnisII: I think it lends to the open source side of things, so fewer programmers tumble around int he dark
Wishbone: I've only been here two days, but I've come to appreciate this chat a lot.
Astrobytes: The discord will still be there
Astrobytes: But it's kinda dead barring the odd question, bug report or occasional large discussion
PatrickMcGinnisII: someone was working on a maven chat, forgot who
Wishbone: Astrobytes: which is fine for those with multi-monitor setups. Sadly I'm not one of those.
struct: We need to create a petition
Astrobytes: I have dual monitors and still prefer the webchat tbh (and I changed my mind on that over the past... year? I think)
struct: But I'm too lazy
HenroLST: we go on strike
struct: I already did
Astrobytes: We need to riot struct. It's the French way. Protest, strike, lie down in the server room corridors
PatrickMcGinnisII: I have 3 monitors. But still hate discord eating my resources
Wishbone: Could they integrate one of the discord channels in place of the chat?
struct: No thanks Astro, I heard french police is on par with american
Astrobytes: afaik discord isn't embeddable
Wishbone: Pity.
Astrobytes: struct: yes, pretty close
PatrickMcGinnisII: and when i goto discord all my other group chats they are a pain to switch around
Astrobytes: we'll use that group channel on discord when the chat goes but it won't be the same
Astrobytes: some of us will use it at least
Wishbone: #codingame or #talk-about-anything-here?
PatrickMcGinnisII: all mu local buddies just use discord to talk about starins of weed
PatrickMcGinnisII: er strains.... and I don't smoke anymore
Astrobytes: got a separate one Wishbone
Astrobytes: PatrickMcGinnisII lol, that's like both my Grateful Dead discord channels
Wishbone: Astrobytes: Oh, an entirely different server, or?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I make trippy LED signs for them, so I can't block channels
Astrobytes: Yeah Wishbone
PatrickMcGinnisII: I monitor right wing chats sometimes on discord to see just how Nazi things are getting
PatrickMcGinnisII: it's very sad btw
Eandy11: How do I see everyone's solution after a coding clash
Aldoggen: they have to choose to share it
Eandy11: dang
Eandy11: I had no clue what to do
Eandy11: that whole time
PatrickMcGinnisII: been working on reworking galleon wars bot, it's not going well
Aldoggen: @Eandy11 if you still know the goal statement I can try to write something
Eandy11: Is there anyway I can look back at my old coding clashes?
Aldoggen: afaik no
Astrobytes: You can look up the clashes if you remember them but the site is currently offline until I think tomorrow
PatrickMcGinnisII: My dad wants me to do the ncestry dna to see if he has any other grandchildren ... like wtf ... it's possible ... but what's wrong with the one u got?
Astrobytes: that's his sole reasoning? :D
Eandy11: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/0c86893c-b1a7-4b4a-adf4-1f35d283ff68
Eandy11: why is this one so hard
Eandy11: it's not
Eandy11: I just haven't done this stuff in awhile
PatrickMcGinnisII: gotta love that pastebin
Eandy11: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/14218551-f419-4163-8acf-f9ba8fedc467
Eandy11: yup
Eandy11: lol
Eandy11: yea these challenges make me feel stupid, I just stare at them for so long
jacek: hm
HenroLST: mh
kollaboys: this is so easy
Andriamanitra: It's been almost an hour since i got fucked over by this but I'm still angry at this clash https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/2067557fd6992ee5bd05914f3de809be1f786
Andriamanitra: what the fuck does 8 months and 27 days mean in a sane world where ill-defined methods like .NET's "AddMonths" don't exist
Ayza: ah that clash I've got it aswell
Ayza: couldn't solve it in time its annoying
Ayza: maybe its just me but I had to deal with months with 30 days and 31 days
Andriamanitra: yeah it's basically impossible to figure out what it means
Andriamanitra: it's so stupid too because i'm pretty sure the length of a pregnancy doesn't chance depending on how long the next 9 months happen to be
Ayza: I guess it could've been about something other than pregnancy
Andriamanitra: even then "8 months" is a not a well-defined amount of time
Ayza: then again you have the approvers who probably didn't solve the puzzle but think it's good
Andriamanitra: look at python: timedelta doesn't accept months
Andriamanitra: look at D: dur doesn't accept months
Andriamanitra: D*
Astrobytes: D? All hail the D. I miss the D memes
Andriamanitra: i can't even decide if i'm more angry at the author of the clash or .NET for implementing that method making this possible
Westicles: He's not the brightest guy
Westicles: He gave me endless hell about my mpox contrib
Westicles: Then smurfed approvals for his own, looks like
Ayza: your mpox contribution was cool, just couldn't solve it for some reason
Ayza: and due to my 0 understanding of c++ i couldn't implement your code
Andriamanitra: the clash is bad but i wouldn't accuse him of smurfing, the approval process is just broken
Westicles: two blank accounts with no friends is usually smurfs
Ayza: it's all the roadmap's fault :pensive:
Ayza: usually low levels do it for the roadmap
Wishbone: Westicles: To be fair, I've commented on it, I have a blank account and no friends, but my comment was a criticism ;-)
Westicles: Wishbone, you account is more than blank, it doesn't even seem to exist :P
Wishbone: I assure you I'm a real person :-D
Eandy11: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a31a1d40-7e76-41d6-9ebb-3ab7b6725fd8
Eandy11: Given a list of numbers, output the second smallest number.
Eandy11: anyone done this one before?
Eandy11: I struggle with the fastest mode ones
struct: arr.sort()[1]?
Wishbone: It's odd though, the clash comments do show my portrait, but this chat doesn't.
struct: oh wont work
struct: arr.sort.uniq[1]
Eandy11: do we have to use the code that these challenges start us with/
struct: no
Astrobytes: Might be a caching thing Wishbone, either CG or us :D
Westicles: Ayza, seems like not everybody is used to taking the odds of several independent things happening and turning that into the odds of none of them happening
Astrobytes: heh heh heh
DomiKo: struct
DomiKo: your bot is much stronger :(
struct: yes?
Astrobytes: Westicles: Making Babies Properly. New puzzle?
struct: and its the same bot...
struct: of last submit
DomiKo: me too :/
Astrobytes: don't get too worried in a league like that DomiKo
Astrobytes: Wait for the real leagues
Westicles: Astro, I'll let you take that one
struct: but yeah no mirrored matches and too many strategies
Astrobytes: :D
DomiKo: I don't have time to worry :joy:
Astrobytes: ah prep for the internship was it?
struct: Still my bot is on par with legend bots
DomiKo: yeah
struct: It just didnt pass :p
DomiKo: I have my flight tomorrow
struct: for the internship?
Astrobytes: good luck DomiKo, hope everything goes great. Where and what you doing? If you are ok to say
struct: gl
DomiKo: yes
DomiKo: Google Zurich, optimizing some stuff
Astrobytes: Nice! Sounds promising dude, smash that shit :)
DomiKo: Thanks!
DomiKo: I hope I will be around here much more than lately
DomiKo: I have soo much stuff to improve and on my todo list
Astrobytes: everything in good time DomiKo, no rush
DomiKo: that's true
Illedan: Work really gets in the way of CG :) But GL!
DomiKo: Site won't disappear :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
DomiKo: For me studies gets a bit more in the way
DomiKo: But we will see
DomiKo: gn for today, and see you in some time!
struct: gn
Astrobytes: The definition of life is that it gets in the way of your plans :D
Astrobytes: and gn DomiKo
Westicles: hah, they just called me burnes du ponant,
Westicles: too subtle for google translate
struct: It means love in French
struct: :)
Astrobytes: no, no I don't think it does :D
darkhorse64: nice little cheering words from your french friends
Astrobytes: At least you're not called Brice Westicles
darkhorse64: Cassé
Astrobytes: Fun fact: worked with an Italian bar man who was literally Brice de Nice. I was alerted to this by the (French) head barman
Astrobytes: Work was never the same until he left
Westicles: third-rate gigolo? ha
makerecho: Panoplie du casseur
makerecho: brice de nice brings me back to high school memories :D
darkhorse64: :sleeping: for me
Astrobytes: Made me laugh as a non-French
Astrobytes: (when I understood it)
Astrobytes: The film or you're saying goodnight darkhorse64?
Astrobytes: I'll take that as a bn (flavour not yet determined)
Astrobytes: a gn/bn from me too
xStonechat: hi guys
ManuEns: hi
Sraiti: any hints for
There is no Spoon - Episode 1
mdfarhansadiq: hi
pajken: It's a spork
BobTheBuilder888: hello
KarterFX: this stupid game kicked me out while I was coding wtf
KarterFX: dumb logic
**HenroLST slaps HenroLST around a bit with a large fishbot
waterproofsodium: I'm stuck on google foobar now :D
HenroLST: i like google, its a very effiecnt engine
225Cb: Hey guys, not a codingame related question but
225Cb: does anyone know how I can lock my windows machine while running a python script all day?
225Cb: putting it to sleep stops the script :cry:
talkingjerry: can anyone help me with the descent
