Quidome: good morning
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Salted: ollǝɥ
Mortis_666: ᴉɥ
jacek: :taco: Automaton2000
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Automaton2000: but that was a bad idea
Automaton2000: i am the only one
Quidome: good morning
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Quidome: another taco :)
Space-Gamer: h
chamar: Pretty new to platform, its soo confusing ......
chamar: Variables and inputs are messed up
tims_keyboard: thanks for the taco
tims_keyboard: oh no its not for me
tims_keyboard: wheres my taco
tims_keyboard: TACOO????
5DN1L: hi antiwonto hi Automaton2000
Automaton2000: it doesn't show up for me
5DN1L: chamar are you still confused?
Pauloux: Anyone know how to make a report of a bug to the boss of codingame or something like that ?
5DN1L: what bug?
Pauloux: It doesn't validate my gold league in the last challenge as a bronze league for the missions
5DN1L: validate? mission? which page/game are you talking about?
Pauloux: the main page with the graph with the mission
5DN1L: do you mean the quest map?
Pauloux: in the AI part, you need to make it to bronze league in two bot combats
Pauloux: Yes
5DN1L: ok, let me see
5DN1L: so you're talking about REACH BRONZE LEAGUE IN 2 GAMES, right?
Pauloux: Yes
5DN1L: Hmmm, I don't know if they count contests or not, and I don't know if they count after the bot is transferred from contest to normal game
5DN1L: I think you can post your question on Discord, in #bug-report channel
Pauloux: OK thank you very much
5DN1L: np
Pauloux: I made the change you said to my contribution btw, thank you again
5DN1L: np
5DN1L: please mention quest map and REACH BRONZE LEAGUE IN 2 GAMES in your post on Discord
5DN1L: otherwise they may not understand what your question is
jacek: oh my https://ar.is-a.cat/c/3b0e54f55708cc4a653e1eab8bf4a3fb39f3aa79.jpg
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5DN1L: is antiwonto still online?
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5DN1L: ok, it is
jacek: You have reached the maximum of submissions in a row. Please try again in a few minutes.
jacek: :rage:
Snoopax: yo
PositiveQuark: what is a Taco?
jacek: why is a taco
PositiveQuark: I see the discussion is getting interesting. Let me get my weed.
programmerForLife007: hello my aim is to build AGI and if not then contribute towards it .
programmerForLife007: basically pull singularity closer
DomiKo: taco
jacek: is Automaton2000 closer to singularity
Automaton2000: i think it's not worth it to do
programmerForLife007: i dont see singularity
j4at: TACO
j4at: well no tacos for me i guess
struct: :taco: Automaton2000
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Automaton2000: so it's a good start
Automaton2000: what happens when i go to the same cell
CodingProHack: hey guys, i started the tutorial on then ia with the bots race, but i need help please, thank you
5DN1L: help antiwonto
5DN1L: help?
antiwonto: [auto] 'help' was defined as ' https://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh '
5DN1L: there we go
CodingProHack: ???
CodingProHack: that's for me ?
5DN1L: yes
StevenV: help antiwonto
StevenV: help?
antiwonto: [auto] 'help' was defined as ' https://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh '
StevenV: help?
antiwonto: [auto] 'help' was defined as ' https://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh '
CodingProHack: ok
StevenV: no, I just test the bot :D
StevenV: hi antiwonto
antiwonto: [auto] hey StevenV. I'm a bot :robot:
StevenV: how old are you? antiwonto
5DN1L: that's a question for Automaton2000
Automaton2000: and it can be good
StevenV: :D
chawwww: :=)
chawwww: i am 12
jacek: thats what she said :scream:
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5DN1L: She told others a lot about you, didn't she? :thinking:
Thorcode: shakedown Automaton2000
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Automaton2000: i have to use a nn for it
waterproofsodium: holla
wlesavo: is ghost players still a thing? quite often i get such games on a submit https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/633410381
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: Yo
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: My fellow coders
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: How do I return
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: If I dont want to continue code execution?
bonsaifree: exit
wlesavo: assert(false)
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: for python
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: I tried exit it didnt work
bonsaifree: exit()
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: Okay Ill try it agan
sdfcvgbhnjklkjhgfdgrht: Thank you very much kind gentleboi
BooDeer: Have you tried return() ?
jacek: in python its pass
jacek: unless you mean to exit the code completely
waterproofsodium: jacek must live in this chat
jacek: :upside_down:
antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '
struct: soon
struct: https://i.imgur.com/HyiZ168.png
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Quidome: hi there
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Quidome: struct nice! excellent use case for NN
Quidome: or RL
Quidome: or both :D
struct: hi
jacek: what makes you think that
StevenV: hello gúy
StevenV: hi there
struct: I think depth 1 eval can do well here jacek
StevenV: exit the Earth
struct: But I might be wrong, maybe Quidome knows other reason
Quidome: well the first world class backgammon program used this
Quidome: I think it is in the Barto book on RL let me check
BigBadStopwatch_4678: do you guys think its better trying to build the algorithm first, or to just look up the design pattern for the algorithm and try to apply it to the probjem
Quidome: which algo?
BigBadStopwatch_4678: binary search.. having a hard time implementing a 2-dimensional one. I can do it but maybe need another 2h.. meanwhile if i just look up design pattern, probably a 20 min job..
Quidome: find it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TD-Gammon
BigBadStopwatch_4678: already spent a few hours messing around with different options before settling down
jacek: of course im trolling with ya http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/User:Gerald_Tesauro/Proposed/Td-gammon
Quidome: hm, yes, i remember that one found it tricky too
BigBadStopwatch_4678: i see the completion rate is much lower for it than other problems
struct: should I make 1st player (based on cg) always go first?
Quidome: I think you can split the search into two dimnesions
BigBadStopwatch_4678: glad im not only one. i'm getting ready for interview so trying to balance time on one problem, vs just cramming several different algorithms in short period of time..
struct: or do I roll dices like on normal backgammon to choose?
BigBadStopwatch_4678: that's what i decided to go with
jacek: BigBadStopwatch_4678 is it dark knight problem?
struct: I think it makes more sense to be CG choosing
StevenV: hello antiwonto
antiwonto: [auto] hey StevenV. I'm a bot :robot:
jacek: does it matter much?
jacek: its not like it needs pie rule
BigBadStopwatch_4678: sometimes i try to make the code clean which maybe slows me down too much. I probably should just code dirty and quick, then look for consolidation options after
@jacek yes that's the one
struct: idk
struct: I dont play the game
struct: Is just that you could have less games as p1 with bad rng I guess
jacek: well, my code on CG always look hackatonish. i first make something that works, then later try to improve it
StevenV: hello guys, is "Featured Puzzle" was "Puzzle of week" before?
jacek: yes, they replaced it
Quidome: The player that goes first has about a 51.327% chance of winning. The player that goes second has about a 48.673% chance of winning.
Quidome: even with a bad RNG it doesn't matter much
StevenV: thanks
struct: that is in computers playing eachother Quidome?
Quidome: https://www.quora.com/On-the-backgammon-game-what-are-the-winning-losing-statistics-for-the-first-player-who-starts-the-game-and-the-second-player-who-plays-after-him
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Quidome: struct can you double as well in your backgammon implementation?
struct: yes
Quidome: but... are you playing a match then, otherwise you always accept
struct: wdym?
Quidome: doubling is a way of forcing the opponent out of the game
Quidome: but if there is only one game, there is not point in tit\
Quidome: it
struct: ah I thought you meant double dices
Quidome: yes I do
struct: When you get same number you play 4 times
Quidome: aha wait
Quidome: i see
Quidome: yes of course you do double dices, but there is this extra dice wit 2, 4, 8, 16 on it
struct: ah no
struct: I dont have that
Quidome: good
Quidome: makes no sense in this case but when you play a match then it does
struct: I saw that on some version I played but I didnt like it
struct: if its just 1 match yeah
Quidome: normally you play a match, first player with 13 points wins the match
struct: it needs to be multiple games for that extra dice to work
Quidome: precisely
struct: I dont think many games would fit cg
struct: I would probably run out of turns
struct: I have a limit of 600 turns total
Quidome: you can play first to 5 points
Quidome: whats the average game length?
struct: I honestly dont know
struct: But if i see its short I could add more matches
Quidome: Average Number of Moves in a Game
=====================
All Games : 20.90 (9423 games)
1 Pt Games : 27.42 ( 342 games)
struct: I guess 1 move = 1 player turn
struct: until he has done all the moves
Quidome: https://bkgm.com/rgb/rgb.cgi?view+712
Quidome: 13 point match would be to much indeed, but 5 point match would work
struct: But without the double dice right?
struct: the 1,2,4,...
Quidome: hm, best of 7 will work as well
Quidome: that means a 5 point match will not work
Quidome: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 as high as you want it to go, but again no point to go higher then 8 in a 5 point match
Quidome: don't no if you should do it btw
Quidome: was just curious, it adds a lot of complexity for the AI
Quidome: stick to a 1 point game I should say forget this doubling thing
struct: yeah
struct: maybe 1 point with multiple
struct: games
Quidome: no need for that then
Quidome: so plain 1 point game
Quidome: only
Quidome: Nice you are building that :punch:
Quidome: When do you expect it for testing?
struct: today/tomrrow
Quidome: NICE
struct: this time I wont give number of legal actions per turn because its way harder to calculate it
struct: Because im expecting the player to output the moves for the dices rolled all at once
Quidome: make sense, the number of legal moves is dependent on the dice roll indeed
struct: yeah and the first move affects the next number of actions
jacek: i dont understand (i havent played that game)
jacek: i thought i get the dices numbers and output moves
struct: yes
jacek: what else is there
struct: not much
bot021: hola soy robot
struct: But you output the first move
struct: the second moves are different now
struct: Because you can move the same piece multiple times
bot021: hola mundo
struct: hi
EnitSuj: Hello, I am not a pro at programming in C and I have a question during clash of codes:
When I declare a variable x for exemple, inside 'for' loops it says that x is undeclared
bot021: hi
jacek: so you have multiple moves one dependent on the other
jacek: EnitSuj can you write the code
EnitSuj: I don't have the code but it is something like :
char names[31];
EnitSuj: for(int i ---------------){
___for(int j; names[k] != '\0'; k++){
EnitSuj: int j; names[j]; j++****
jacek: hm
struct: well its just a warning
struct: since you dont assign a value to it
struct: it will probably have a random value that was in memory
Minnie99: hi guys.. can u tell me the best way to learn coding in java? I am in wood league rank 2 and I just don't know basic thing like write distance , angle and speed.. i am trying for hours , it's insane.
Quidome: https://exercism.org/tracks
Quidome: and
Quidome: https://open.kattis.com/
Quidome: 1.1 and 1.2 difficulty only
Minnie99: i will try, thanks
Quidome: the first move is a matter of definition you mean you have 2 moves in one turn?
Quidome: You could think of a move as the combination of the two and then that problem is gone but...
Quidome: you still have the dive dependency so yes no list with legal moves supplied by the referee
Quidome: dive -> dice
Wontonimo: hey Minnie99, what game ?
Wontonimo: are you doing mad pod racing or spider attack ?
Quidome: Wontonimo do you think this is the right website for learning Java?
Wontonimo: 100% no. This is for after you've learnt the basics and want to level up
Wontonimo: and challenge yourself to something more than listing all even numbers from 1 to 100
Quidome: oh ok, i was sending him/her of to a better place but wasn't sure you want to work with him/her
Wontonimo: i'd still be happy to help
Wontonimo: that link you sent to exercism is gold!
Quidome: yes indeed and when I need to switch languages in my head I solve a few Kattis problems :D
Quidome: Even the easy problems on this site are getting more diificult\
Quidome: the they were used to be
Wontonimo: I think this site requires the basics : variables, loops, functions, arrays, and outside of those programming things it is really hard to do much here without knowledge of basic algebra
Wontonimo: yeah, I'd like the Easy problems to be easy and they are not.
Wontonimo: or have a 'Clash' level of puzzles below Easy, called Intro
Quidome: That would be an idea, to have a intro level problem set. Doesn't have to change like the rest of the content
struct: at least math is not needed for some multis
waterproofsodium: hey why don't I rank up when winning in clash?
waterproofsodium: my score didn't change for 2 days
5DN1L: you mean this screen? https://www.codingame.com/profile/3c3c4e324e5def52303134e0ef85acc22437884
struct: there is cap on 5k points on clash
struct: you have 4.8k
struct: 5k is rank 1
struct: so it might be hard to get the 5k
struct: you need to get points somewhere else
5DN1L: waterproofsodium You can click RANKING to get more details of the breakdown of the points
Quidome: hi
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Quidome: and another taco :P
Napolitana: I am new here and don't know what I'm doing :sweat_smile: any tips on where to start learning?
Darleanow: hello every1 :)
Darleanow: depends on your level in coding !!
Darleanow: you should go ahead and do some puzzles
Darleanow: you should also do some clash of code
xmetrix: @Irina .. maybe just clash!
jacek: clash is too stressful
ZndrBrok: Puzzles are good to start or maybe u can try the IA games (MadPodRacing for exemple is like poker, easy to start but not so easy if u want to have a good code :P)
ZndrBrok: Clashes depend of your level, if you just start it can be frustrating to have a timer.
Ayza: honestly "easy" puzzles here are not as easy as they sound, but they are good
Ayza: aka you don't do it as a beginner
Ayza: clashes are probably the best to go for first
monkeyman2000: siuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
VirtualRealityRocks: if you want an easy puzzle do "the descent" or whatever it's called, so easy
Ayza: yea the default puzzles or whatever they are called are just as the difficulty states
Ayza: but community puzzles may be the hard ones
Ayza: The thor one is pretty easy as well
VirtualRealityRocks: and temperatures
waterproofsodium: uh delayed "ty" for the explanations on my question @ 5DN1L @ struct
thekindboy: eqach time i check this conv i see the name struct and 5dn1l
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thekindboy: goats man hats off
timbersson: o/
BigBadStopwatch_4678: shadows of the knight, binary search algo.. pretty interesting problem. Completion ratio isn't all that high either.
BigBadStopwatch_4678: the examiner feature is very interesting. Seems like a great way to practice reading code.
waterproofsodium: forcing myself to do 20 clash problems before going to bed :p
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waterproofsodium: procrastination skillz
FantomOldWenis: im trying to teach myself this stuff, and oh boy
waterproofsodium: yeah well sky is the limit
FantomOldWenis: no, the pain tolerance for my headache is the limit lmao
waterproofsodium: getting good = years of practice & learning
waterproofsodium: don't get discouraged tho
waterproofsodium: :/
FantomOldWenis: thank you, how long have you been at it?
waterproofsodium: couple of years (although not on this site)
FantomOldWenis: what would recommend working towards as a beginner goal? (aside from 'Hello, World!'
Ayza: do you mean as in puzzles?
FantomOldWenis: yeah, cause i tried to do the clash arena whatever but i didnt really know where to start
Ayza: I would suggest getting in grasp of the beginner programming concepts first
Ayza: and try this site https://hackerrank.com
FantomOldWenis: what for?
Ayza: that site has puzzles fitting for beginners which you probably won't find here, so once you've gotten decent at it you can try clashes here
FantomOldWenis: about that
FantomOldWenis: im 16 and dont have a school thats in the registry it keeps on sending me to
BigBadStopwatch_4678: did a hackerrank based interview, didnt get the job lol
Ayza: don't sign an as a company, I think there should be a developer one or something
Ayza: pick that one
struct: placeholder graphics are done just need to parse inputs now
waterproofsodium: wtf
waterproofsodium: i did 100% and got 75%!!!
struct: test cases are different from validators
waterproofsodium: ah
waterproofsodium: what does that mean? :P
waterproofsodium: I had to wait longer?
Ayza: test cases are just to test your code
Ayza: validators are the real deal
Ayza: hidden test cases you could say
Ayza: so you don't try to hardcode
waterproofsodium: uh hu
waterproofsodium: which is what I did
waterproofsodium: because that problem kinda said "hardcode me"
FantomOldWenis: what does hardcode mean/
FantomOldWenis: ?*
waterproofsodium: "write literally"
waterproofsodium: = not abstracting the problem and finding a solution
FantomOldWenis: ohhhhhhh, sounds counterproductive lmao
monkeyman2000: suiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
struct: This is hardcode
struct: hardcoding*
struct: https://github.com/AceLewis/my_first_calculator.py/blob/master/my_first_calculator.py
FantomOldWenis: that mustve taken forever
struct: a few minutes
waterproofsodium: 8 more
struct: you can write code to write that
FantomOldWenis: but wouldnt you just want to code the solution at that point???
waterproofsodium: no, don't doubt my decision making when I hardcode ;)
FantomOldWenis: :joy:
FantomOldWenis: im struggling to beat Boss2 :upside_down:
struct: which game?
FantomOldWenis: mad pod racing
struct: follow the tutorial
struct: should get you to bronze
struct: If you cant pass it I can try to help
FantomOldWenis: well now its not even showing when i try to play my code lmao, its a frozen screen so i gotta test in arena anyways
struct: refresh
FantomOldWenis: im very bad at this.
struct: whats your code'
FantomOldWenis: is there a way to share it without copy and pasting it/
struct: paste it here it creates a pastebin
FantomOldWenis: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1deca797-20b8-4c5c-873d-1f305eb8df6e
struct: print(str(next_checkpoint_x) + " " + str(next_checkpoint_y) + " " + thrust)
struct: instead of your current print
struct: you were not using thrust variable on it
FantomOldWenis: oh..... thanks :joy::sweat:
struct: Does it make sense?
FantomOldWenis: yeahhh, though im not quite sure why there are empty quotes if i was to be honest
struct: a space
struct: you need to print x y and thrust
struct: each one separated by a space
FantomOldWenis: ohhhhhhh
struct: or the referee wont be able to understand it
FantomOldWenis: i forget how to replace something
FantomOldWenis: like im trying to replace thrust with boost if it meets the requirements
struct: you can do thrust = "BOOST"
struct: since its python
struct: it should owrk
waterproofsodium: why are there so many people around that are better than me with greater rank
waterproofsodium: I'm iritated xD
struct: and if you print boost without having it will just print 100 instead
waterproofsodium: aha! they do only clash !!
HenroLST: hi
waterproofsodium: I'm done for today
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waterproofsodium: good workout xD
waterproofsodium: check those calves
waterproofsodium: :muscle_tone3:
Quidome: good morning
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BigBadStopwatch_4678: man
BigBadStopwatch_4678: breadth search first is pretty rough.. is it common to ever spend maybe 5-10 hours on a challenge such as this?
Quidome: yep
Quidome: you will get faster :)
BigBadStopwatch_4678: many bad tutorials online regarding BFS implementation in python
Quidome: the main contest runs for 10 days in a row
Quidome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1H3jAAGlEA
chamar: Pretty new to platform, its soo confusing ......
