Jasher: hi
kaka.pops: hi
kaka.pops: i coding now
kaka.pops: pls don't distrube me
kaka.pops: thanks
jacek: oO
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jrke: oO
5DN1L: Automaton2000 do you oO?
Automaton2000: and it can be used
DaNinja: no talking, kaka.pops is coding!
5DN1L: And you just did :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
DaNinja: oops ;)
5DN1L: kaka.pops offline now
jacek: :taco: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: not even sure if it would be fine
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Automaton2000: if you cant do it
DarkSkull_5316: manden juego pa aprender python suave
5DN1L: English only please
struct: jacek taco
struct: jacek :taco:
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struct: sorry I forgot how to do it
ItsNotABug: My old account got 14,500 rank in pod racer. But I lost access to that account. So now I figure it might be time to re-write again. See if I can slowly chip away at figuring out all the nonsense maths again
jacek: math in mad pod racing?
ItsNotABug: yeah, for calculating positions. Lots of angles
struct: ItsNotABug you cna always check magu_s tutorial
struct: It shows how to code it
BenjaminUrquhart: is -3vel still semi-relevant
ItsNotABug: Surprising thing is recurse is top with python? How'd that happen?
struct: its c++
BenjaminUrquhart: I think he made a c++ bot and used python to launch it
BenjaminUrquhart: for the meme
ItsNotABug: lol. Explains it
ItsNotABug: I like python, but I never expect it top in these
jacek: he should have used bash
jacek: 14,500, is this silver
ItsNotABug: Yeah. 14,500 is silver
ItsNotABug: New bot is bronze atm
MrDKOz: Anyway to access my code from the Spring Challenge even though it's over?
5DN1L: yes, click ACTIVITIES > COMPETE > CONTESTS > VIEW REPORT
MrDKOz: Awesome, thank you :)
5DN1L: :)
therealbeef: Out of frustration with the failure in the contest, I rewrote my uttc bot from scratch, and finally making promotion to legend
therealbeef: channeling that rage hehe
5DN1L: 🎉
burnpanck: same here :-)
therealbeef: which game are you working on?
burnpanck: spring-challenge '22; got my NN-guided MCTS bot to train a few hours after the contest ended...
burnpanck: after losing almost all weekend optimising the compile-time so it would stay below the compilation timeout of the arena
therealbeef: ah nice approach
burnpanck: my favourite, ever since that AlphaGo paper came out :-)
struct: How well does it play?
struct: do you have a replay of it?
burnpanck: no - I never got it to work during the duration of the contest. I'll try once it's available as a regular bot game.
therealbeef: I had spent months tweaking my UTTC bot using alpha-beta, never got higher than #7 in gold. rewrote it to lame MCTS (no solver, not really speed optimized, random rollout), and it just blows gold boss away... embrace MCTS
putibuzu: wow you got it tow work :open_mouth:
burnpanck: what is UTTC again? my MCTS currently uses standard upper confidence threshold to select moves - sounds awfully close...
therealbeef: ultimate tic tac toe
therealbeef: another game
therealbeef: ah been typoing UTTT
therealbeef: sorry
burnpanck: ah, right - is it on CG?
therealbeef: yeah, i think it was an old contest as well
Salticid: I was thinking it must be a variation on UCT (upper confidence bounds over trees, a variation on MCTS) - thanks for clarifying. :)
jacek: is there anyone in legend in UTTT with good old alpha-beta?
therealbeef: it should be possible with a really good eval function
putibuzu: @burnpanck if I remember correctly you mentioned your NN gets as input the monster-hero distances, right? how do you handle the fact that the number of monsters varies? sorry, I'm curious about your approach
struct: I think dbd r has minimax on uttt
struct: but I might be wrong
therealbeef: i like how they named the gold boss MightCarlo
jacek: i wonder if i used minimax with the nn eval how good it would be
struct: How long would it take you to code it?
jacek: probably under hour. mostly copy paste from other codes and adjusting
burnpanck: @putibuzu: The NN design is such that every mob-hero pairing is treated exactly the same; that is the features are an (n_mob,n_hero,n_feat) matrix; the NN then does "point-wise convolutions" (i.e. dense on each pairing separately). The only link between different mobs/heroes is though aggregation across all mobs/heroes.
burnpanck: variable sized matrices are oviously no issue in C++. for training, I leverage the new RaggedTensors in TF.
struct: do you use avx?
putibuzu: @burnpanck: ah ok that's interesting, thank you very much :)
burnpanck: I hope so :-) that is, I use pragma "-O3" and use static loop bounds in the matrix multiplication (where possible; i.e make sure the mobs are the outermost dimension). hence also the many template instantiations and thus the trouble with the compile time...
burnpanck: re avx...
jacek: you use variable inputs?
struct: is o3 enough to enable auto vectorization?
burnpanck: tbh, I'm not sure, but I thought it did
JFB: If sb wants another contest I suggest kaggle (example game replay: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kore-2022/leaderboard?dialog=episodes-episode-36493960 )
jacek: maybe try target arch
jacek: #pragma GCC optimize("Ofast","unroll-loops", "omit-frame-pointer", "inline")
- pragma GCC option("arch=native", "tune=native", "no-zero-upper")
- pragma GCC target("rdrnd", "popcnt", "avx", "bmi2")
struct: no avx2?
struct: no fma
struct: o.o
jacek: probably arch=native and tune=native will take care of it
DopamineAddict: Is there a forum for spring Challenge 2022, want to know about the legends leagure strategies that was used
burnpanck: thx for the tips! I should probably throw the bot code onto Godbolt at some point anyway
5DN1L: DopamineAddict https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/spring-challenge-2022-feedbacks-strategies/195736/
jacek: DopamineAddict https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/spring-challenge-2022-feedbacks-strategies/195736
jacek: :rage:
5DN1L: :upside_down:
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Ninja184527: Hello
JFB: jacek - your #pragma moved my very old uttt from #218 to #182. Not very impressive position any way but good as the result of only 3 lines copy/past :-)
jacek: how much speedup?
JFB: I do not know - and I have had // #pragma GCC target("avx")
// #pragma GCC optimize "Ofast,omit-frame-pointer,inline,unroll-loops" already
TobiasA: you know how you ca do this in python x = [i for i in range(10)]. I there a way for me to do that in c++
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struct: what does that code do?
_NikJ: for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++) x[i] = i;
jacek: list comprehension?
_NikJ: my mistake, it's i = 1; i <= 10
TobiasA: yea list comprehension
struct: x[10] = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10};
Dasohneplan: can anyone help me with 'There is no Spoon'?
_NikJ: You could do generate or transform on vector, but I guess that's ugly af, it might be prettier to use use a loop or predefined like struct said
Dasohneplan: can i also do it with a 2d Array or is that to much?
jacek: maybe lambda?
cegprakash: just read _Royale's post mortem
cegprakash: he has done GA
cegprakash: omg omg
cegprakash: he finished legend #55
cegprakash: would love to see his scoring function
TobiasA: pls can send the link
jacek: https://forum.codingame.com/t/spring-challenge-2022-feedbacks-strategies/195736/42
TobiasA: thanks
tutubalin: "The Armstrong number is called a number. If we multiply each number by the power of the number of numbers, it becomes equal to that number."
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tutubalin: This is a CoC puzzle statement!
tutubalin: Are there any punishment to those who approved such puzzles?
abt8601: wow so many numbers
jacek: should be reverse
tutubalin: it definitely a number of numbers
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/8081d29cd8a7cd42f325070c2b86ec5047ea
5DN1L: Approvers: a Level 8, a Level 9, and a Level 17 who seems to be offline for quite a while now
5DN1L: And their approval comments...
tutubalin: we need to approve approvers
tutubalin: and approver of approvers is called approver.
abt8601: :joy:
eulerscheZahl: that'S a lot of numbers, tutubalin
Link_jon: approverer?
tutubalin: eulerscheZahl a number of numbers
tutubalin: Link_jon :)
eulerscheZahl: Zahl is German for numbers
eulerscheZahl: *number (singular)
eulerscheZahl: perfect nickname for the occasion
tutubalin: :)
Link_jon: a number of numbers... better said as a number of digits?
ugh i just got here and my head allready hurts
Astrobytes: "The Armstrong number is called a number" that's some wisdom there
jacek: go figure
eulerscheZahl: do people even read their statement before giving it to review?
eulerscheZahl: and to reviewers read it?
Astrobytes: I am guessing a "no" to both
Link_jon: Im... looking at it now...
What.
the example makes sense atleast
tutubalin: That's one small number for number, one giant number for numberkind.
Astrobytes: :D
Link_jon: XD
Astrobytes: brilliant
Link_jon: Hi, I think the description is a little cumbersome. "raise each digit to the power of amount of digits"
Link_jon: Alonehoc is genius
eulerscheZahl: "three-digit number"
i think we can do better
"three-numbers number"
Link_jon: ugh this makes my head hurt
Link_jon: cant look any longer
tutubalin: eulerscheZahl :)
tutubalin: and it should mention that three is also a number
Astrobytes: good point!
tutubalin: number-three-numbers number
VizGhar: what a heck? o.O
Link_jon: dunno..
tutubalin: it looks like some esoteric language now
eulerscheZahl: then look at this Link_jon, it will calm you down
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ef/9c/86/ef9c868236b6129e9a984371bf97b787--black-dots-the-black.jpg
jzen: Anyone remember how the positions are rounded in code vs zombies? I have tried truncated and rounded but my sim is still incorrect
eulerscheZahl: i would give you mine but it's also off a bit :(
Link_jon: (uhh ok)
Astrobytes: could make a decent puzzle, numberlang
abt8601: Hmm should I edit the contribution to make it not suck as much?
Astrobytes: I wouldn't. People need to laugh once in a while :P
eulerscheZahl: can you edit it? i can't, no permissions
jzen: Can you edit a contribution after it was approved?
Astrobytes: Yes, if of sufficient level
eulerscheZahl: you have to play 300+ clashes
eulerscheZahl: or level29 for any puzzle that's not a clash
abt8601: I have played thousands of clashes so I can
Astrobytes: ^ in this case
Thorcode: the contest really fun
actualCoderTrevor: By this definition, 101 is an Armstrong number, because 10 is a number and 1 is a number, and 10^2 + 1^2 = 101
Link_jon: ....reeeeeeeeee
tutubalin: also 101^1 = 101
Astrobytes: ah but don't forget, 2 is a number and 101 is a number
eulerscheZahl: make a new clash about the yet to be defined Armweak number
jzen: Wouldn't it be 10^3 + 1^3 = 1001?
Astrobytes: Legweak
jzen: actualCoderTrevor
eulerscheZahl: good point
tutubalin: jzen no, there are 2 numbers: 10 and 1
actualCoderTrevor: ^
jzen: Sorry I meant 10^3 + 0^3 + 1^3 = 1001
jzen: Wait
VizGhar: Legweak number is number without legs. 6 8 0 doesn't have legs... count all bipods in interval 1-10000
jzen: I now see I am confused
actualCoderTrevor: Well 1001 would work
Astrobytes: VizGhar: :D
Thorcode: how can you find this 3 months ago puzzle euler
VizGhar: feel free to steal it astro :P
VizGhar: :D
Astrobytes: hahaha all good man, you can keep it :D
actualCoderTrevor: VizGhar please don't allow it for reverse
tutubalin: with proper tests it's a decent reverse puzzle
tutubalin: also with a hint in output sttring
eulerscheZahl: "how can you find this 3 months ago puzzle euler"
parser error
Astrobytes: I don't get it either.
eulerscheZahl: i just link to https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/ and hope it answers whatever question
eulerscheZahl: heavy rain outside, including thunder and hail. i gave shelter to the neighbor's cat
eulerscheZahl: mine doesn't know yet
Astrobytes: ooh. Do they know each other?
jacek: betrayal
abt8601: Author and one approver are of the same school
abt8601: But this indicator is rather weak
Thorcode: this clash i thought was approved 3 months ago
jzen: Thorcode It was, tutubalin just got it in a clash and commented on the poorly written statement
Thorcode: I can even edit this clash
abt8601: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3ea125ad-1c21-4234-95ca-8a6644cd42b8
abt8601: I have a revised version, what do you think?
eulerscheZahl: yes, the cats know each other. mine hates him. he doesn't care about her
jzen: Beautiful abt8601
Link_jon: *insert applause* This is an amazing statement abt
abt8601: Thanks
Astrobytes: lol euler, wait til she finds out you've been fraternising with the 'enemy' :D
eulerscheZahl: 2 enemies
eulerscheZahl: there's another cat that visits regularly
eulerscheZahl: but the 2 intruders get along well with each other
eulerscheZahl: some initial fighting but they have an arrangement now
tutubalin: abt8601 that's good!
abt8601: Thanks
abt8601: OK, I think I'll bring it online
abt8601: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2283e708-e126-41cd-83f6-0d734dce4899
abt8601: Here is the old one if you still want to have a laugh
Astrobytes: hah! I had "King" Bart from a few doors down who used to come into the kitchen and casually eat my cats food and/or wait at the back door to be let in
Thorcode: i still have the old one
Astrobytes: He stopped eventually
j4at: I didn't try bot programming yet. I have a question, I see that people uses ML methods(from reading the chat) Those can require hours/days of training. Do they train it offline ? If yes how ?
jacek: only some of the top people use that. they wrote their own game simulators, play on them and learn from them
j4at: okay :)
jacek: for example there is alphazero-like tutorial for oware https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/58137
eulerscheZahl: i had that "King Bart" too. now the cat door is electronic and checks for the chip before granting access
jacek: hmm, do playground articles work for you?
Westicles: site still running slow?
eulerscheZahl: was annoying when i was sleeping in bed at night, with my cat on top. and then i heard him eat next door (so did my cat)
Astrobytes: lol, yeah good move with the electronic catflap
jzen: jacek Not for me
Astrobytes: works for me jacek
eulerscheZahl: but it doesn't work properly in winter
eulerscheZahl: it opens for my cat but never closes again
Astrobytes: hahaha, slight design flaw
eulerscheZahl: gets better: it's blocking the way out
jacek: well it keeps loading for me :\
eulerscheZahl: turning the house into a cat trap
eulerscheZahl: but the neighbor's cat is fine with that
Astrobytes: I imagine it is!
MSmits: hey guys
MSmits: I kinda missed the contest. But I just played my 3 games vs professor X
MSmits: (oware)
eulerscheZahl: how did it go?
Astrobytes: hey MSmits, yeah I also got my email
eulerscheZahl: 3 times tie?
MSmits: Made exactly 1 error in each game :(
Astrobytes: damn
eulerscheZahl: human error or bot error?
MSmits: so out of 400+ moves total
MSmits: no, bot erorr. The opening 48-37 seed positions are based on meta mcts
MSmits: i did not make a single error after that
Westicles: the ide seems to be broken
MSmits: so my database is validated at least :)
Westicles: fix it mods
Astrobytes: nice, well done MSmits
eulerscheZahl: so you lost the games but gave him a strong fight at least?
MSmits: yeah I think I was his best opponent so far
eulerscheZahl: did he write anything in chat?
MSmits: yeah we chatted a bit.
MSmits: nice guy
eulerscheZahl: also: not sure if you would have liked the contest game. a few years ago when you were new: definitely (code royale days)
eulerscheZahl: but the total opposite of a board game
Astrobytes: haven't scheduled mine yet, need to finish the app lol
MSmits: yeah I did code to bronze league btw. Just on friday i think
eulerscheZahl: i had a hard time motivating myself
eulerscheZahl: not my kind of game. but i wanted legend. and then i couldn't just stop after going that far
eulerscheZahl: laggy chat is lagging
Westicles: all the puzzles are dead
MSmits: the game actually seemed interesting and i kept telling myself to code for it
Link_jon: i see this too...
- sigh* making a hex converter in lua is difficult lul
MSmits: but I was playing a 32-player tourney in solaris and i won that.
Astrobytes: gg
MSmits: so I am semi-ok with missing contest, but not entirely
Astrobytes: you can always do the multi
eulerscheZahl: human or bot tournament?
MSmits: this is human. strategy game, strangely enough. No bots
eulerscheZahl: and you (supposedly) missed codejam
Astrobytes: not scriptable at all?
Astrobytes: I was asleep
MSmits: not really, though the devs are working on AI for people who leave the game
MSmits: I know it's strange, i havent actually gamed in like 6 yrs before this
MSmits: but it sucked me in a bit :)
Astrobytes: it does seem pretty good
eulerscheZahl: this? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1623930/Solaris/
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: they have a turnbased version and realtime. I prefer turnbased as you can then be on equal footing if you have a life
eulerscheZahl: oh, windows :poop:
MSmits: but the 32p i won was real time. Let's just say i did not get much sleep
MSmits: it's also browser based
MSmits: solaris.games
MSmits: dont need steam
Astrobytes: yeah, turn-based is the best. Pick up where you left off
MSmits: you have 24 hrs to make your move
MSmits: move(s)
eulerscheZahl: i just don't want to pick up on a time consuming hobby
MSmits: yeah, i am not trying to get you guys into the game. Just letting you know where I've been at :)
jacek: mhm
eulerscheZahl: if you are willing to miss the first CG contest in a year for it, it must be good
jacek: and last
MSmits: well, it's good, but I have this obsession with winning... that's the main reason.
MSmits: once i start...
Astrobytes: Competitive spirit :D
jacek: so you lost in oware due to opening?
eulerscheZahl: team up with jacek
eulerscheZahl: you take over mid-game
MSmits: yes, first game i played perfectly to ply 28
MSmits: then made an error on 35, was solved on 40
eulerscheZahl: did professor X tell you that you made an error?
eulerscheZahl: or did you analyze it afterwards?
MSmits: afterwards, but i know it really soon, my meta mcts is running while playing the game, i see my score go down :(
MSmits: my first few moves i have millions of visits and then 10-20 moves in it goes down to 50k or so and i start to have few enough visits that i cant be sure
jacek: you need more confidence
MSmits: indeed
jacek: it means even deep meta mcts cant be that trustworthy
Smelty: lol
MSmits: i had several lines of play that would have certainly led to a draw, that i have explored more than enough, but he did not pick those
eulerscheZahl: clever of him
MSmits: But I can let go of the worry that maybe my database has errors. 300 moves played i db and no error
TabulaRasa: Hi all, I have naive question, when do you think will spring 2022 challenge show up in bot programming games?
MSmits: I thought this happened the next day?
Astrobytes: yeah, that's very cool MSmits
eulerscheZahl: should come back soon, we don't know the exact day
Astrobytes: Thibaud said within the week
MSmits: He suggested we meet up in Amsterdam where he is based btw
eulerscheZahl: also don't forget about the survey
MSmits: might take him up on that
TabulaRasa: thanks @Astrobytes
Astrobytes: Oh nice MSmits, please do
eulerscheZahl: raise your voice for bot contests
j4at: :raised_hand:
jacek: and play on real oware board?
MSmits: yeah if he is serious about it I'll go over there
MSmits: i suck at oware lol
Astrobytes: I think he would be serious about it
eulerscheZahl: drag him into Onitama
MSmits: I'll mention codingame for sure
Astrobytes: I bet I get destroyed when I get around to scheduling my games
MSmits: You never know, you could get lucky
MSmits: just dont make a mistake
eulerscheZahl: you can get destroyed on CG without a fixed schedule
MSmits: =)
Astrobytes: lol
MSmits: was it jacek or you that suggested this challenge Astrobytes?
eulerscheZahl: jacek
MSmits: Thanks jacek
Astrobytes: yeah jacek
MSmits: it was exactly what i wanted
jacek: who's jacek, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i just dont know what to do
Astrobytes: possibly no better way to test your seed db :)
MSmits: yeah, I verified it against itself, but there's nothing better than an independent db that has been tested over and over against others
Astrobytes: Absolutely.
MSmits: what kind of program will you use Astrobytes?
MSmits: Do you also have a DB?
Wizard-Dude: Hello, in legends of code & magic they say that there are three different locations a card can be , in the players hand, on the players side of the board, and on the opponents side of the board. What is the difference between on my hand, and on my side of the board?
eulerscheZahl: hand: you can play it
Astrobytes: No DB Msmits, but my modified offline version performs better than my CG version
MSmits: no difference
MSmits: oh
eulerscheZahl: board: you have to summon it first (costs mana points) before playing the card
MSmits: i was thinking onitama sorry
Wizard-Dude: oh thanks!
MSmits: Astrobytes cool. I did have an endgame db generator shared if you have time to give it a try
MSmits: I just misses movement generation and such
MSmits: (have to input your own sim)
Astrobytes: oh yes, I forgot about that
Astrobytes: thanks!
MSmits: you can easily generate 20-25 seeds
MSmits: 36 seeds took me 3 weeks though
jacek: if your modified offline generator performs better, why dont you put it on CG :v
Astrobytes: yeah I remember you doing it
yhyoxx: is there a relationship between heuristics and finite state machine ?
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: finite statemachine uses heuristics to move between stateds
MSmits: heuristics are if/else conditions basically
yhyoxx: is the best way to make a heuristics bot implementing a fsm ?
eulerscheZahl: flying spaghetti monster?
MSmits: not sure if fsm is usable in most arena's
eulerscheZahl: couldn't resist
Astrobytes: :D
yhyoxx: nice
MSmits: :)
jacek: :no_mouth:
MSmits: but you can use ideas from fsm
yhyoxx: like last contest, my biggest problem was design
eulerscheZahl: that was CG's problem too
yhyoxx: and there were only a few states
eulerscheZahl: that's how we got an escape
Astrobytes: :rofl:
yhyoxx: haha
yhyoxx: true
yhyoxx: wth was that contest
yhyoxx: training some model ?
MSmits: oh btw, this was the endgame map for my solaris tourney: https://solaris.games/#/game?id=6249df7f1985eaebf8353f45 Me being dark blue
eulerscheZahl: did you win anything?
MSmits: eh an ingame badge :P
Astrobytes: nice
eulerscheZahl: you are Innoble?
MSmits: yeah, havent you seen me on discord
eulerscheZahl: as MSmits
eulerscheZahl: i left CG discord long ago
MSmits: you invited me for that special channel
eulerscheZahl: then i just forgot
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: can you have different names for different discord channels?
Astrobytes: the special channel will only really become useful if/when this chat disappears
MSmits: i mean as a user
MSmits: ohh ok,is it a backup chat?
Astrobytes: essentially, yeah
MSmits: because we didnt know what was going to happen with the merger?
Astrobytes: Pretty much. That and the getting rid of the webchat plan
eulerscheZahl: :(
MSmits: is that still happening?
MSmits: or unclear?
eulerscheZahl: paused A/B testing, they had a bug
eulerscheZahl: testing should continue soon
MSmits: did they want to integerate discord in the page?
MSmits: integrate
Astrobytes: No
Astrobytes: You can't embed discord afaik
MSmits: I have no idea
eulerscheZahl: iframe?
Astrobytes: ew
MSmits: are iframes deprecated?
MSmits: what is a web dev supposed to use instead?
Astrobytes: I don't think they're as widely used as they were, just for specific things
MSmits: ah ok.
Wizard-Dude: Hi, I got an error saying timeout on Legends of Code & magic, What does this error mean?
MSmits: I use them sometimes
MSmits: Wizard-Dude your bot uses too much time
eulerscheZahl: you don't print a line of output
MSmits: possibly because you don't print yeah
MSmits: (under some circumstances)
Wizard-Dude: oh, I think that is the problem! Thanks !
Link_jon: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6ac65c32-c24c-4aa2-8c64-9859535fca15
Link_jon: run it and you
Link_jon: 'll understand lul
ZndrBrok: Hi guys, do only i have problem with CoC right now ?
ZndrBrok: I don't see the score of people who finished
ZndrBrok: and when i quitte to play a new one
[CG]Keelhaul: No, the issue is being investigated
ZndrBrok: i never get notified about the ranked after the 15 minutes
ZndrBrok: shiieeet
eulerscheZahl: today in "guess the language"
is it Lua?
ZndrBrok: i need to pass an interview on codingame :P
ZndrBrok: i hope this bug will not be related with the "pro" part of the site :P
MSmits: eulerscheZahl it reminded me of vba but different
MSmits: the "end" thing
MSmits: but no brackets
Astrobytes: yeah it's Lua
ZndrBrok: @Keelhaul thank you for the information !
j4at: Clash of code results are pending for the last 30 mins
j4at: :grimacing:
j4at: nvm
Astrobytes: scroll up
Link_jon: currently failing to clash and aaggh
Link_jon: it hurts
Link_jon: what i wanna know is how ppl instantly finish clashes
eulerscheZahl: they just click submit without solving it
eulerscheZahl: that's the fastest way
Link_jon: 100%?
eulerscheZahl: maybe they already know the clash then
eulerscheZahl: only 1500 or so to choose from
eulerscheZahl: 1787 in my database
jacek: flash clash
jzen: eulerscheZahl Finally fixed the CvZ sim
eulerscheZahl: in all situations?
jzen: At least the ones that were failing before :)
eulerscheZahl: i had this weird case where the zombie would have to go horizontally (?) but the y changed and he moved further away by 1 unit
eulerscheZahl: too long ago, i can't recall exactly
eulerscheZahl: if you like reversing, try the CG sponsored contest
jzen: Seems like I already submitted something
jzen: Oh wait, it just spits out a random valid answer
jzen: But I'll be sure to make an actual attempt at some point
VizGhar: its optim... In optims it should be easy to print valid answer... just not optimal enough
Dapps: I just read bowwow contest PM. I just didn't understand what type of search did he use in attack?
eulerscheZahl: Bender 4 :see_no_evil:
eulerscheZahl: chokudai?
eulerscheZahl: that's like beam, but with fixed depth and increasing width
eulerscheZahl: https://ideone.com/nQQQa8
Dapps: oh interesting
eulerscheZahl: that snippet contains 1 or 2 bugs btw
eulerscheZahl: HStates[t+1].push(NextState);
eulerscheZahl: and don't return a state from depth 0
DustinNunyo: Hey guys! I am doing the Fall 2020 Challenge. I have this idea to approach the problem like a Chess AI. The problem is it's a bit out of reach for me at the moment. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I might do to improve?
eulerscheZahl: how do you approach a chess AI?
Dapps: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/57902/totoro-beam-search-c-starter
cegprakash: yaaay
cegprakash: finally solved code vs zombies
Mindarius: I feel like this shouldn't be legal in shortest: exec(bytes('浩潰瑲洠瑡੨ⱷ㵨慭⡰湩ⱴ灯湥〨⤩瀊楲瑮洨瑡潣扭眨栫㈭眬ㄭ⤩','u16')[2:])
antiwonto: [auto] hey Mindarius that looks like python golf compression. It's legit, and acceptable to use. You may be interested in this tool https://clemg.github.io/pythongolfer/
eulerscheZahl: Opponent eval: 1ms, score: MUDA"
that must be from AntiSquid
cegprakash: but my rank is pretty low :P
cegprakash: I don't cre
cegprakash: I saved human race
DustinNunyo: Well, I assume it's a recursive algorithm that goes multiple levels deep and examines the board state across many different board state but that bit is the part that is a little fuzzy for me. I know you can also do stuff like alpha beta pruning to sort the list of board states and not check certain board states but that is about all I know.
cegprakash: I saved human race and got 100%
cegprakash: don't care how many zombies I kill
Link_jon: OH
Link_jon: i now see how he was able to finish in under a minute
Link_jon: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5ea96cc0-38d3-47b3-a05a-40306152c369
Wontonimo: DustinNunyo , for a chess AI use alpha-beta ( or minimax or negamax , all same family ) or use MCTS
Wontonimo: A beam search could work if you have a really good eval
Wontonimo: if you are not familiar with minimax, start there. Google it, watch some youtube videos
DustinNunyo: Well, the game says that MCTS is in the "related material" so I assume that is probably one of the better ways to approach the problem.
DustinNunyo: I'm sort of familiar with it but I am not sure how to implement it.
Wontonimo: yes, MCTS will most likely beat minimax but it is a bit more advanced
Astrobytes: not sure why it says MCTS when almost everybody used beam search for that contets
Astrobytes: *contest
Wontonimo: which contest?
eulerscheZahl: fall 2020 was the witches cooking, wasn't it?
Astrobytes: 2020
DustinNunyo: I know that it plays the best move possible for you then the best move for you opponent and checks multiple levels deep and tries to find the best end result assuming your opponent plays all the best moves.
eulerscheZahl: even the winner used beam search
eulerscheZahl: there is little opponent interaction
Wontonimo: Fall 2020 Challenge ? yes beam search is the way to go
DustinNunyo: Aaaah, alrighty, I will check into that.
jacek: start to learn minimax or mcts on sequential game. that game is simultanoues
jacek: + doesnt have much interaction between players
Wontonimo: ChokudaiSearch beam search is just a trick to do a beam search of width 1, then 2, then 3, etc until you run out of time.
eulerscheZahl: C# has no priority queue in the library :/
VizGhar: Startup multi approved? Is it any good?
jacek: yeah, has best graphics ever
Wontonimo: I looked at it. It's not my thing
eulerscheZahl: never again joke about my artwork
Wontonimo: that link you sent eulerscheZahl https://ideone.com/nQQQa8 seems to be missing something to increment ChokudaiWidth
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: you have a priority queue of reachable states for each depth
eulerscheZahl: then as long as you have time, you take the one with the highest score and generate the next states from it
cegprakash: how is the score computed in code vs zombies? I have to save all humans?
eulerscheZahl: the width just allows you to expand a few nodes before moving to the next layer. keeping it at 1 is fine
cegprakash: I saved 1 human in every game but seems like I only got 33K score
Wontonimo: ah, I'm mistaken then. thanks
cegprakash: but I need 40K for unlocking optimisation tree
jacek: save 1 human to pass a testcase
DustinNunyo: Anyway, thanks for the heads up guys! I am going to go back to reading material now. lol
Wontonimo: well, optimize those kills cegprakash
KYel: Actually, PriorityQueue was added in C# with .NET 6 introduced
cegprakash: I've to kill the zombies or save multiple humans what's the goal Wontonimo
jzen: Scoring works as follows:
A zombie is worth the number of humans still alive squared x10, not including Ash.
If several zombies are destroyed during on the same round, the nth zombie killed's worth is multiplied by the (n+2)th number of the Fibonnacci sequence (1, 2, 3, 5, 8, and so on). As a consequence, you should kill the maximum amount of zombies during a same turn.
eulerscheZahl: wait, really? how could i miss that
jzen: Sorry for big paste
eulerscheZahl: such a game changer
jzen: Thought it would pastebin
eulerscheZahl: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.collections.generic.priorityqueue-2?view=net-6.0
woah :o
eulerscheZahl: finally
cegprakash: fibonacci wew
eulerscheZahl: now i just have to wait 2 or 3 years until CG, topcoder, codejam and all those update the language
NewCoder09: in code vs zombies i have 649 lines of code in C and im ranked 216th with a 223930 score im proud of myself
cegprakash: and I need to save multiple humans :\ And I thought ash and just 1 more human can save the human race
Astrobytes: I think anyone tasked with saving the human race should learn to read statements :smirk:
DustinNunyo: Would it be beneficial to learn how to do a BFS algorithm first for beam search? because I actually need to write a BFS/Dijkstra pathfinding algorithm for another project I am working on.
Astrobytes: Yes. Very helpful
VizGhar: BFS first yes
cegprakash: if u keep asking me read problem statements I'll make more twitch streams on how to solve problems without reading the statement Astrobytes
Astrobytes: cegprakash: :D
DustinNunyo: Are there any algorithms that you guys might recommend before BFS? lol
jacek: DFS
cegprakash: sorting
Astrobytes: DustinNunyo:
https://www.redblobgames.com/
DustinNunyo: I'm a pretty decent coder but not really a very good programmer as I am finding out. lol
Dapps: Convex Hull
DustinNunyo: Alrighty thank you guys! I will check those out!
cegprakash: don't check convex hull Dapps is kidding. it's for advanced
DustinNunyo: It's funny because I've actually implemented A* before but for some reason BFS and DFS are just hard for me to wrap my head around. lol
jacek: or try some easy puzzles https://www.codingame.com/training/very-easy/space-maze
Dapps: haha yes i was j/k :)
Dapps: i don't even understand it
DustinNunyo: convex hull huh? lol
DaNinja: super easy Space Maze
eulerscheZahl: the 2nd onboarding puzzle, as we call it
Astrobytes: the 1st of course being Nintendo
gaha: Just shared my post mortem for Spring Challenge https://forum.codingame.com/t/spring-challenge-2022-feedbacks-strategies/195736/55
gaha: 8th place, using 3x attacker strategy
eulerscheZahl: i know, i hated your bot in particular :P
Dapps: I hated all shooters lol
gaha: it was so fun to shoot though
eulerscheZahl: game rules were unbalanced
Dapps: i just accepted it as part of the game
Dapps: it shouldn't have been linear though, each additional hero should've moved it less far
DaNinja: Euler was this what space maze was based on? https://www.myabandonware.com/game/stone-age-1iq/play-1iq
gaha: sure, it'd make sense
eulerscheZahl: it was something with a car you had to steer
eulerscheZahl: a yellow beetle i think
eulerscheZahl: later levels also had keys that melted ice blocks
eulerscheZahl: making that part of the map passable
eulerscheZahl: i've spent hours searching it and also asked my dad who installed it in the first place
eulerscheZahl: but no luck
DaNinja: it doesnt ring a bell
eulerscheZahl: i think it was on water rather than in the space
Smelty: hmm
eulerscheZahl: with rafts
eulerscheZahl: afk for a while now
cegprakash: An error occurred (#407): "You reached the limit of plays for a period of time.".
Dapps: lol you seem to hit that often
jacek: addict?
cegprakash: there are just 21 test cases
cegprakash: so it runs 21 times
cegprakash: not my fault
jacek: on a bright side, im finally in wood3 in br2k
jacek: what a noob https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/631882576
DomiKo: lol
cegprakash: You have reached the maximum of submissions in a row. Please try again in a few minutes.
cegprakash: I hate this plz
cegprakash: I close CG
cegprakash: can't test
cegprakash: can't submit
jacek: oO
Westicles: br2k is tough, I'm stuck at the top of wood5
MSmits: Westicles yes, it's designed to be tough
MSmits: I never got into the top league
DomiKo: Getting out of Wood 3 is hard enough :(
MSmits: Yeah it was
Westicles: I was going to try to advance to all the woods possible (51 left to go) but I'll skip that one
Westicles: and chess
jacek: no :cheese: for you
HenroLST: huh
MSmits: Westicles the games made by the community aren't real wood leagues
MSmits: they are harder, sometimes much harder
MSmits: ex-contests are generally easy, except that ocean game
Westicles: yeah. I think I have solved all the easy ones, except maybe fireworks... can't read all that
Westicles: though now that they are going to make the community puzzles into events with leagues, everything will change I guess
MSmits: this is a good way to try all the games and see if there's one you lik
MSmits: oh, where can i read about this?
Westicles: thib talked about it on chat, let me try to find it
MSmits: ok
jacek: community games with leagues? :drooling_face:
Westicles: https://cg.spdns.eu/wiki/Chat:World/2022-05-02
Westicles: search for 'mentioning' to get at the start
jacek: oh my!
0zBug: :rage:
0zBug: :rage::rage::rage:
[CG]Thibaud: :eyes:
MSmits: thanks Westicles
[CG]Thibaud: o/ hello :)
jacek: captain on the bridge!
Astrobytes: hi Thibaud
Astrobytes: leagues for community games could be interesting/fun
[CG]Thibaud: what I am a bit scared of, is that it will earn CP just like a regular challenge
MSmits: are you afraid it will be unfair because people already know these games?
MSmits: thereby having a headstart?
[CG]Thibaud: this and also the risk that it remains a small event with 1k players top
Astrobytes: Yes indeed
MSmits: well it depends on how much you advertise it. You get huge amounts of players for these official contests
MSmits: how do you make that happen?
Astrobytes: that's a lot of resources though
MSmits: yeah i tis
MSmits: i think we have some community games that really deserve more attention. like eulers graph game
jacek: graph game :thinking:
Smelty: j,,
**MSmits waits for the mention of paper soccer
jacek: i didnt
[CG]Thibaud: yes, it's great for the visibility of the games
Astrobytes: also, I worry about the difficulty of some of the games; I mean it goes from 0..100 required skill level somewhat steeply in a lot of the board games for instance
Smelty: hmm
[CG]Thibaud: I'm still the one who select games
MSmits: this is true, some are hard to get started in
Astrobytes: Though, I guess with enough players at different levels/leagues it could still be a fun and interesting experience for most
Astrobytes: just back to that "getting enough players" issue again though
jacek: and how would new leagues bosses be created? like in contests?
Smelty: interesting
therealbeef: you could favor relatively new community games, to mitigate the problem of having many people with really good bots already at start
jacek: well board games have few hardcode players from the start
MSmits: therealbeef that may help a bit, but it usually doesn't take more than a month for bots to be as good as they will be
MSmits: so that would mean *really* new
Astrobytes: or at least in the ballpark
therealbeef: so maybe spot one during review phase and then release it as an event
MSmits: that could be good
Astrobytes: definitely a lot of potential, might take a few tries to get running smoothly
therealbeef: e.g. let reviewers 'nominate' good ones, so it's less work for CG
MSmits: Hey Astrobytes did you create a game before?
MSmits: I'm not sure
MSmits: darkhorse did
Astrobytes: MSmits: no I was going to but other stuff took over, still on the list
MSmits: ahh ok
Astrobytes: Morpion solitaire/join-five
MSmits: sounds good
jacek: darkhorse?
struct: just make jacek bots as the wood boss
Smelty: ^
Link_jon: ^
Kaelidian: is it just me or is python the best language for clash
Smelty: its definitely good for shortest but dunno
Link_jon: idk i see alot of people playing with snakes in clash. a few gem hunters too though.
Then theres people like me that live on the moon lul
Smelty: lul
Nakotathepro: hello
Link_jon: hai
DustinNunyo: ugh... recursion is aweful!
snoyes: you can say that again
Astrobytes: :smirk:
gaha: Actually, how are bosses created in the contests right now?
Wontonimo: they were users
Astrobytes: it's automated since this last one, previously they were chosen manually by CG staff
Wontonimo: ^^
DustinNunyo: lol Anyone got an tips for breaking the recursive algorithm barrier?
I've written a recursive sum function and a json parser in the past but that's about it.
gaha: I think Gold Boss was not deterministic which I didn't really like
eulerscheZahl: looks like i missed some chat
eulerscheZahl: "i think we have some community games that really deserve more attention. like eulers graph game"
Wontonimo: recursion can always be turned into a loop plus a stack
eulerscheZahl: whatever update it was caused a buggy viewer
Wontonimo: so think of your recursion as a stack DustinNunyo
gaha: imo having deterministic boss is important to be able to fix bugs in the code
DustinNunyo: @Wontonimo I think I kind of understand what you are saying It's just really hard to wrap my head around.
aCat: yeah it helps a lot
Astrobytes: Yeah, I think previously they checked for that but apparently the automated version doesn't
aCat: but bosses for lower leagues were deterministic, it may be that for legend it is not
Wontonimo: hey DustinNunyo , so when you are calling back on a function what is really happening is you are pushing the current variables of the function onto the callback stack. well ... no need to do that
aCat: to not help too much with overtuning
gaha: yeah, I think they all were except for the last boss
eulerscheZahl: they tried to find deterministic ones for higher leagues too
eulerscheZahl: and lower = deterministic can be by chance
eulerscheZahl: how many players use random in lower ranks?
DustinNunyo: @Wontonimo yeah, higher order functions also did my head in until relatively recently... lol
Wontonimo: instead make a data structure DustinNunyo and push that onto a stack. The data structure is what would have been the local variables of the funcgtion
Wontonimo: what's your programming language DustinNunyo
DustinNunyo: I am most comfortable in python but I can use a few others in a pinch.
Wontonimo: give me a couple min and i'll try to make an example
DustinNunyo: Thank you so much man! I really appreciate it!
Wontonimo: hmm ... i'm going down a rabbit hole. Before I go further, tell me about the recursion problem you are attacing
Nakotathepro: hello everyone
DustinNunyo: Well, the ROOT of it is that I need to calculate a flow field for a game that I have been working on for a few years. For that I need to understand either Dijkstra's pathfinding algorithm for the integration step but I was having trouble with it so I decided to get back to basics and try strengthening my ability with recursive algorithms.
Link_jon: noice?
Link_jon: Also hai
DustinNunyo: As for what I am working on right this second; I am working on a DFS puzzle trying to get better at recursion. lol
DustinNunyo: death-first-search-episode-1
Link_jon: lul. Good luck with that.
M currently playing with bots and seeing what lua --cant-- can do
Link_jon: indexing a nil value is a very constant problem XD
DustinNunyo: Ultimately I am hoping to go from DFS to BFS to Dijkstra's
Link_jon: ooooo
cclaude42: Hey everyone! I have a question about the /home roadmap
DustinNunyo: nil values?
DustinNunyo: I haven't ran into that yet.
Link_jon: nil == NULL (but nil is Lua)
DustinNunyo: It's looking like I might have to keep track of when I cut a link.
cclaude42: I finished Legend on the contest, but it didn't unlock the Legend level in bot programming. Will it unlock eventually ?
DustinNunyo: Well yeah, lua, was actually my first language. I just haven't ran into any nil values being passed in on this puzzle yet. Then again, I am only on the second level.
Link_jon: ... Huh i just had a thought. Claude, check to see if your score still exists
cclaude42: My score ? You meant the codinpoints ?
Link_jon: err. in the leaderboard itself
cclaude42: Yeah still 82nd
Link_jon: *shrug*
might just not be updated yet
Astrobytes: when the codinpoints are added/updated you'll get the achievement
cclaude42: Maybe it's strictly bot programming. When do they usually move a contest to regular bot programming ?
cclaude42: I have the codinpoints already :o
Astrobytes: it will be there within the week
Link_jon: Also,im having absolute PAIN whenever working with tables in tables and variables to index those tables, not sure why
Astrobytes: oh they updated the CP?
cclaude42: I have it, yeah
Astrobytes: but either way, you'll be in Legend when it comes back
cclaude42: Reached Master ranking :D
cclaude42: Niceee it's my first time, stoked
Astrobytes: and it should be here within the week Thibaud said
Astrobytes: and gratz :)
cclaude42: Thank you :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: I snuck in two 'private' contests, got N/A for CP, I wonder if they are used in the CP 5% degredation?
Astrobytes: no you don't get any CP for those at all, doesn't factor into it whatsoever afaik
PatrickMcGinnisII: I gained +3k cp, and lost +2k cp on the 5% degrading for a net of +650 CP, very disappointing
Link_jon: sad
MichExpatMatt: I gained 133 CP overall since April 16, but I lost 157 profile rank in the same time period :(
MichExpatMatt: Leaving every time I joined a clash that turned out to be annoying probably hasn't helped
Astrobytes: also clash CPs decay
MichExpatMatt: yeah
PatrickMcGinnisII: clash points deca... yea fairly quickly
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I barely know what I'm doing half the time T-T
Link_jon: ^
Astrobytes: in general or on here? :P
MichExpatMatt: but within the first couple days of the spring contest... my CP shot up and cracked the Master category for the first time. One day later... the point increase vanished like it was never there
MichExpatMatt: maybe it was just a calculation error on their part
PatrickMcGinnisII: Anyone try 'Start-Up' multi? I'm a little confused...it is a ML game?
jacek: cant you tell from its graphics
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I feel like I'm the only beginner here
eulerscheZahl: something definitely broke, was working before :(
chromium (left), chrome (center), firefox (right)
https://i.imgur.com/CVqFc5s.jpg
eulerscheZahl: the warriors show the circle on top, which should only be visible in debug mode. and the color of one player does not change
Astrobytes: SDK update?
Astrobytes: or viewer rather
eulerscheZahl: not sure yet
jacek: mhm
VizGhar: thatonedreamsmpfan2.0 I was beginner too 1-2years back :P just enjoy yourself
eulerscheZahl: and when i reload, settings don't get saved
eulerscheZahl: that used to work as well
MichExpatMatt: Everyone was once a beginner at anything they do. Don't sweat it! Personally I am just here for fun and to learn a thing once in a while
eulerscheZahl: and i don't even think that i can file a bug report, as i did so much things that i weren't supposed to do
cclaude42: Yeah we're all beginners at some point :D
eulerscheZahl: wasn't*
MichExpatMatt: (despite my talking about points and ranks)
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: But it's so hard, I can barely enjoy myself :(
jacek: "That" - she
VizGhar: thatonedreamsmpfan2.0 and what exactly are you doing? go for easy puzzles
jacek: like galaxy labyrinth
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I am, It's still hard because I've just gotten into coding
Link_jon: What language are you using?
MichExpatMatt: I regularly look things up on geeksforgeeks, stackoverflow, and a few other sites while trying to figure out puzzles/challenges. I've done DFS and BFS numerous times for example, but I seem to always forget the algorithms
Astrobytes: MichExpatMatt: try this site for solidifying your pathfinding/graph knowledge a little
https://www.redblobgames.com/
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I think I'm using a language called Go, I really don't know the difference between the different languages for coding
MichExpatMatt: Astrobytes oh nice! I think I used one of those examples when I was working on the Captain Kirk maze thing earlier this year, but I hadn't bookmarked it so I lost it and didn't realize how many other things were on the site
PatrickMcGinnisII: eulerscheZahl looks like it works in my Firefox 99.0
Astrobytes: MichExpatMatt: Yeah it's a great resource, the interactive/animated parts are very useful too. Very in depth in parts but you can take as little or as much of it as you need
Link_jon: You might have an easier time starting off with a simplier language (but... learning a more weird language earlier will help get used to... the pain.)
Personally I'd suggest something along the lines of Python or Lua (or javascript but.... ehhhhhhhh)
PatrickMcGinnisII: Waterfox (64 bit) stopped working correctly months ago... but FF 32 bit works fine...wierd huh
PatrickMcGinnisII: oops WF works on the replay
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: Link_jon: pain is an understatement
eulerscheZahl: PatrickMcGinnisII if you reload the replay, does it save the settings (debug mode, custom colors, ..)?
Link_jon: Yes...i enjoy sticking to the Lua/Python combo instead of the only 'proper' language i know: C++
eulerscheZahl: with the latest SDK version: https://i.imgur.com/r4b0iuS.png
only lost the bottom bar, i expected much worse
PatrickMcGinnisII: eulerscheZahl nope, none
eulerscheZahl: same for me, used to be working :(
MichExpatMatt: In college I was doing mostly C++ up until graduating 2007 and today I don't remember it, I'm mostly C# and very spoiled by it. But in college my favorite instructor said things like "if you know algorithms, languages are just syntax" and "if you can do it in C++, you can do it in any other language"
eulerscheZahl: custom color for you makes no sense if it doesn't save between replays
Link_jon: pretty much yeah
MichExpatMatt: which to me sounds kind of like "I've had Mickey's, so I could drink anything"
Link_jon: small problem
Link_jon: i dont forsee a Lua remake of Doom
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I can't believe I want to code games but I can barely figure out this puzzles t-t
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: *these
Link_jon: (wait what was Doom even coded in)
jacek: i dont want math, i want to program computers!
Link_jon: I mean. I think thats how most of us felt and or continue to feel sometimes.
Link_jon: or maybe its just me
Link_jon: What puzzle is it
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: in my opinion, math should be illegal, but sadly we still need some of it for coding
VizGhar: You cant code without math
jacek: or meth
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: XD
Link_jon: eehh thats just the motivator
Link_jon: then theres meth math and thats a whole nother story
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: lmao
VizGhar: I've heard about some guy taking controlled amount of LSD... And he solved some pretty darn hard problem... you guys know more?
Link_jon: ...Rather explosive, usually.
Am curious now, what puzzle was it ur fighting with
VizGhar: I want to read the story :P
Astrobytes: I don't think microdosing is all they say it is tbh
VizGhar: yeah thatonedreamsmpfan2.0 what is that you cant solve?
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: everything t-t
Link_jon: send the link
VizGhar: we wont help you then
VizGhar: If you need to cry, find other place. If there is anything to ask, then ask
Astrobytes: :D
VizGhar: We are willing to help but there is no way as you can see
Astrobytes: On point
VizGhar: "Hey I want to buy something"
"What should it be?"
- leaves store disappointed
VizGhar: now on point :)
Astrobytes: heh heh heh
PatrickMcGinnisII: eulerscheZahl hmm, looked at source... would take forever for me to break it all down ... but looks like server side session would be necessary ... but on reload, CG is sending a static CSS ... so while authentication may be handshaked, i dunno on replays...I doubt more overhead is utilized because setting stuff in the browser could inject into the JS locally by malicious people...so they probably closed the hole.
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: there are different problems in a puzzle and I can't figure out how to make all of them stay correct when I switch to figure out another a different one t-t
Astrobytes: That's a very roundabout way of saying "I have no idea" Patrick :P
Link_jon: aka the best way
Link_jon: Ah, dont hardcode your way through the puzzle
Link_jon: make an algorithm that takes the input, and converts said input to the correct output
jacek: so... NN
Link_jon: Theres allways a pattern
Astrobytes: to jaceks trolling?
DomiKo: new challenge. Make NN to predict jacek :D
Astrobytes: lol
Waffle3z: automatonnn
PatrickMcGinnisII: Astrobytes i have clue. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: i think changing the CSS with JS is okay locally, but it's safer for CG to bump to default Doc. of course, the YT player controls might not be spanning due to the addition of .mobile support .... yea ok, I'm guessing... but it's not being saved
PatrickMcGinnisII: crap got dr. appt. in 30 minutes
PatrickMcGinnisII: laterz
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: I'm only good at the conditions puzzles, my life sucks
5DN1L: yeah, life is full of conditions puzzles
Astrobytes: :D
thatonedreamsmpfan2.0: sadly
Nakotathepro: who is a girl on here
jzen: You, judging from your picture
Link_jon: probably only you seeings the silence
eulerscheZahl: by that logic Astrobytes is a cat and 5DN1L just yellow
jzen: Wait... You are not a frog?
eulerscheZahl: a toad
jzen: Sorry
Link_jon: ul
Astrobytes: lol
jzen: I see that I have offended your being
jacek: First important fact – all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads! https://wildlifepreservation.ca/what-is-the-difference-between-toads-frogs/
pmor: I thought on the internet the men are boys, the boys are men, and girls are fbi agents
Astrobytes: correct jacek
jzen: Good to know jacek
jzen: pmor Where does that leave the toads?
jzen: The FBI agents are toads?
pmor: if they are girl toads
Unkn0wn225: I need help with changing thors direction f movement cause im new
5DN1L: cause you're new in what?
5DN1L: new to CodinGame and new to a programming language are different, for example
Link_jon: jacek: so frogs are rectangles and toads are squares?
jzen: Link_jon the other way around
Link_jon: Ahh yeh
Kaelidian: c# is terrible for clash 98% of the time
eulerscheZahl: an update to the latest SDK at least solved the issue of warrier and circle being shown at the same time for chromium
eulerscheZahl: but it looks like any toggle with more than 2 possible states doesn't get saved
ycsvenom: Kaelidian i think c# is terrible as you said because it's slow ,terrible and broken intellisense
MichExpatMatt: One of the reasons I started trying to learn python
MichExpatMatt: Also in C# I was trying to do the code golf for Don't Panic #2, I've made my code illegible but it's still only down to 447 chars :sweat_smile:
5DN1L: Don't Panic #2?
MichExpatMatt: Yeah there is a challenge for the second Don't Panic puzzle, where the goal is not just to pass all the tests but to get code size <200 chars
MichExpatMatt: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/codegolf/don't-panic
5DN1L: That's Don't Panic #1
5DN1L: "This is a rather special programming challenge. This is the same problem as « Don't Panic - Episode 1 », an medium puzzle, but instead of simply solving it, now you need to do so with the least possible amount of characters."
MichExpatMatt: ahh, my bad. Sorry, I haven't worked on that one in months now so I misnamed it by mistake
5DN1L: No worries :)
5DN1L: Just wondering whether you wanted to challenge yourself to code golf #2 too :P
MichExpatMatt: idk, maybe once I get better at python
jacek: :upside_down:
antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '
jacek: :taco: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: that last bit triggers me, oh well.
antiwonto: [auto] sorry jacek but you can only award tacos once per day
jacek: :rage:
derjack: :taco: jacek
antiwonto: [auto] derjack has awarded jacek 10 tacos. jacek now has 37 taco. derjack now has 44 taco
wlesavo: in Block the spreading fire the last validator is random and the seed for test is fixed right?
and other test cases coinside with validators?
Westicles: The 'random' ones are always the same, if that's what you mean
Westicles: I think confusion over this resulted in the 1-star rating... he thought it changed every time you submit
Westicles: sad
DomiKo: 1-star is correct rating for this puzzle
jacek: huh
Westicles: oh, maybe so... I haven't tried it
DomiKo: me too, I just read the statement
wlesavo: oh, thats sad
wlesavo: i thought that number of test cases seemed to be quite low
VirtualRealityRocks: how is the clear rate for the onboarding puzzle only 85% XD
Wontonimo: because people think this is an intro to programming for total noobs and then freak out and run away
VirtualRealityRocks: it literally gives you code to copy in
5DN1L: Doesn't mean they necessarily follow it through
VirtualRealityRocks: I suppose
katyanaveka: :nerd:
glebas: лю катю
katyanaveka: :sunglasses:
Link_jon: *shrug*
idk, to me CG just seems to require intrest in coding, and a basic knowledge of programing
glebas: *shrug*
idk, to me CG just seems to require intrest in coding, and a basic knowledge of programing
5DN1L: no spamming please glebas
linjoehan: I'm in here now
antiwonto: [auto] Hey linjoehan, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 13 tacos
PatrickMcGinnisII: where's my :taco:
jzen: :taco: PatrickMcGinnisII
antiwonto: [auto] Sorry jzen but you need 3 tacos to give tacos. You have 0 now. Get someone to give you more tacos first
jzen: :(
PatrickMcGinnisII: drop :taco:
antiwonto: [auto] That taco command has moved to the #taco channel
BJD: :taco: jzen
antiwonto: [auto] BJD has awarded jzen 1 tacos. jzen now has 1 taco. BJD now has 9 taco
Donotalo: is there any way to view company leaderboard of a competition beyond rank 100?
struct: Donotalo search the name
struct: https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2022/top-companies/global?column=keyword&value=Reli
Frostyhot: how do i learn to code
DustinNunyo: @Frostyhot YouTube is probably the best place to start of you have absolutely no experience in my opinion.
DustinNunyo: They might have super beginner friendly lessons on here but I am not sure.
DustinNunyo: I haven't looked at the really simple stuff.
PoisonousBerry: Im tring the Power of Thor, how do I combine the conditions? I cant seem to get him to go diagnal
cegprakash: I just saw the pictures of CG team
cegprakash: Thibaud looks like a geeky nerd
cegprakash: https://www.codingame.com/about/team
PoisonousBerry: Hey! do u know how to do the Thor question?
cegprakash: nopes..
PatrickMcGinnisII: Frostyhot personally I buy the books for the language I wanna dive into. then google is your friend for lang. docs. Lotta free IDEs, CG is great for hands on experience.
PatrickMcGinnisII: if (code_addict==1) redirect...lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: don't all talk at once
antiwonto: [auto] Hey PatrickMcGinnisII, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 17 tacos
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: how to hack NASA
PatrickMcGinnisII: they all use apple
Mortis_666: $sudo hack NASA
PatrickMcGinnisII: :sweat_smile:
Mortis_666: 😂
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: can i hack NASA by python
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: im a pyton pro
DEV-thien: yes.But you must hack python 1st
PatrickMcGinnisII: They have a .50 cal machine gun emplacement at the entrance, so stay between the pylons
PatrickMcGinnisII: ffs I haven't been to KSC in 15 years
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: ok bro
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: so im gonna hack NASA with html
PatrickMcGinnisII: I installed stuff in the clean rooms when they were sending up pieces of the ISS
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: i can hack yor phone bro
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: watch out
PatrickMcGinnisII: hack my car via satellite like the govt. does
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: wait 2m
PatrickMcGinnisII: hint: there's a "by Microsoft" tag on the computer
PatrickMcGinnisII: There's more than 15M vulnerable vehicles sold from 2008-2019 and no recall nor fix for it
PatrickMcGinnisII: shut all of them off but mine k
DustinNunyo: Hey guys, can anyone confirm if it is possible to solve the death first search puzzle using python?
DustinNunyo: I am considering re-writing my code in C++ but I would like to avoid that if I can.
PatrickMcGinnisII: do a 1-time djkistra and make a shortest distance matrix on first turn, should b fine
PatrickMcGinnisII: oh, i guess it depends on episode
DustinNunyo: Well, I was trying to do DFS as it's called "death first search" lol
DustinNunyo: episode 1
DustinNunyo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/72fe2483-ee3d-47b5-99b1-4a26fcab389b
DustinNunyo: that is my code.
PatrickMcGinnisII: I did both episodes in php, so yea...doable in PY
DustinNunyo: hmm... yeah... probably something wrong with my code then.
PatrickMcGinnisII: unroll the recursive...do it in loops
DustinNunyo: aaaah, yeah, my buddy was telling me about that. He said it would speed things up. lol
DustinNunyo: I thought the @lru_cache was supposed to solve that issue though.
PatrickMcGinnisII: I don't know enough about PY to tell you, all i got 4 u
DustinNunyo: Alrighty, well, I was wanting to re-write this algorithm to not use recursion anyway, might as well do it now. lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: :v_tone1:
Jasher: hi
