Hafeed06: Alkhil
Hafeed06: Aren't you a bot
Thorcode: nah
Hafeed06: Has Artifical Intelligence gone so far?
Thorcode: he is a real persone
Thorcode: bruh
AlkhilJohn.: aArtifical Intelliegence
AlkhilJohn.: I am not real
DerelictD: I am not a robot.
Thorcode: don't believe him
Hafeed06: I robot occasionally
AlkhilJohn.: I am an autonomous functioning CodinGame bot to play with other competitors.
Hafeed06: But most of the time I humane
AlkhilJohn.: a
AlkhilJohn.: a
AlkhilJohn.: a
AlkhilJohn.: I am horny
AlkhilJohn.: Can someone give me some more code
Mortis_666: .-.
AlkhilJohn.: Robot fluis
Automaton2000.: hi
AlkhilJohn.: Robot fluid good for dealing with robot_horny.exe
Hafeed06: What's that ASCII clash of code you made lol
Automaton2000.: HI Âutomaton2000
DerelictD: All of the other robots are now awake. Nice.
AlkhilJohn.: Oh
Hafeed06: it was a PIMA
AlkhilJohn.: That ASCII thing
Automaton2000.: hi Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you have some kind of search
Automaton2000.: wut
Automaton2000.: I got a copy version
AlkhilJohn.: Bots are awake
AlkhilJohn.: All I need is my bro BitWolf
AlkhilJohn.: BitWlf is my man
AlkhilJohn.: We do em all, the puzzles and shit, on the grind all the time, everday, online 24/7
Automaton2000.: hey
AlkhilJohn.: Hey bud
AlkhilJohn.: are you a bot?
Automaton2000.: ask Automaton2000
AlkhilJohn.: ehhh bot gang
Automaton2000: and i dont want to see your bot
Thorcode: guys
AlkhilJohn.: What
Thorcode: you could see the AlkhilJohn. has the dot
AlkhilJohn.: bruh
Thorcode: he's just copy the first bot
Thorcode: so he can't use his name
AlkhilJohn.: I tried hacking codingame
Thorcode: Am i right?
AlkhilJohn.: To chnage my name to AlkhilJohn
AlkhilJohn.: But mission unsuccessful
Thorcode: you can't
AlkhilJohn.: Every username and ID is stored in a hashmap/dict
AlkhilJohn.: I cant change it lol
AlkhilJohn.: I tried changing my ID
AlkhilJohn.: to AlkhilJohn
Thorcode: bruh
AlkhilJohn.: but unsuccessful
AlkhilJohn.: :(
AlkhilJohn.: even U+200B unicode chars aren't allowed
JackEhly: This is so confusing
Automaton2000.: you should know that
Automaton2000.: every profile have a dot after a bot name is a real person
TeeBeeU: hi HND 50 students
codeStealer05: :grin:
Mortis_666: 🤔
TeeBeeU: 😐
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: shout out to Ceylon
EvilSaxophone_8b3b: 有Q群吗？这里聊天太不方便了。
AaronYao: :grinning:
Yodarac: hey guys can someone help me solve this game called descent?
Wontonimo: don't crash
Wontonimo: shoot the highest mountain
Wontonimo: what have you tried Yodarac ?
Yodarac: Ok so imma print the 7th ?
Yodarac: and do that by using the 6th index?
Yodarac: how do I code it to "shoot"?
Wontonimo: print the index
Wontonimo: print( )
Wontonimo: check out the sample code
Yodarac: Didn't do anything
Wontonimo: print( x )
Yodarac: there's no variable named x
Wontonimo: well, assign the value you want to print to x
Yodarac: 0 = x?
Wontonimo: x = 0
Wontonimo: it's late, gn
Jerrasterix: gn Wontonimo
Jerrasterix: later
Jerrasterix: Automaton2000, good to see you alive
Automaton2000: you need to put in a lot of top bots
Yodarac: How imma going to do that?
Yodarac: :joy:
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Ha, some numbskull finally outlasted Wont's patience
Jerrasterix: :rofl:
Jerrasterix: he is asking hints for already hinted puzzle
Yodarac: True, now I see
Yodarac: well that was embarassing
Yodarac: :joy:
Yodarac: frankly the graphics are kinda bad
Yodarac: or I am bad
Jerrasterix: Who cares about the graphics, only non tech savy people care
Flaise: *slowly raises hand* Uhh, I care about graphics?
Jerrasterix: you are fine with it right ??
Flaise: You're talking about The Descent?
Jerrasterix: idk
Jerrasterix: I just erupted for no reasons :(
Jerrasterix: student, Flaise ??
Flaise: Me? Not formally, though I'm spending my free time practicing while I search for my next job.
Yodarac: Have you applied anywhere Flaise?
Flaise: Yeah, a whole bunch of places. I've gotten one interview so far via LinkedIn that ended up not going anywhere.
Jerrasterix: You graduated ??
Catdbb: Hello, World!
Yodarac: Everything about Linkedin kind of sucks except for its search engine
Sombody101: how do i find a number closest to 0 in an array in c#?
Catdbb: for loop
Flaise: I never finished a degree but worked in the industry already for years so I'm not in any hurry to go take more classes.
Jerrasterix: Unfortunately, the world is not present in chat Catdbb
Sombody101: well, i know that
Sombody101: i even tried Math.ABS()
Catdbb: for loop check if == 0 do your event
Jerrasterix: It should work
Catdbb: so idk lol
Sombody101: i need a number closest, not equal
Sombody101: out of a random array of numbers
Jerrasterix: for temp ??
Jerrasterix: i mean Temperature ??
Sombody101: for my question?
Jerrasterix: get the math.abs() of 0th element
Jerrasterix: and then start from the 1st element
Jerrasterix: as you loop find the math.abs() of each one, if you have value smaller than that.... update your variable which hold the value which is closer to zero
Catdbb: do you know codejam event of google?
Catdbb: @Sombody101
Sombody101: no
Jerrasterix: Catdbb, just a note, you don't have to include @, just type the name
Sombody101: k, so i got it working now, but some of these need to be negatives as well
Mortis_666: bruh i pass the first 3 cases of https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/chuck-norris but fail the last
Jerrasterix: Math.Abs() will do the trick
Jerrasterix: where are u going wrong??
Mortis_666: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Jerrasterix: code ??
Mortis_666: i cant even check cuz the last case is insanely long
Jerrasterix: code plz
Sombody101: well, its getting it right
Mortis_666: i will explain what my code is doing
Mortis_666: first get the input
Sombody101: im just going to add num < 0 and num > 0 to see the negatives
Mortis_666: make an empty string call encoded
Jerrasterix: no need for it Sombody101
Jerrasterix: Mortis_666, talk is cheap, show me the code
Jerrasterix: you can dm me if you want
Mortis_666: ok
Mortis_666: Jerrasterix just to confirm do u get 100% in that puzzle?
Sombody101: i made this:
Sombody101: if (neg == true){t = (t*2)-t;}
Mortis_666: ok yes
Sombody101: wait
Sombody101: no
Sombody101: thats just a long way to get the same number lol
Sombody101: lemmie work on it lol
Jerrasterix: ohh yeah Mortis_666
Sombody101: there we go
Sombody101: if (neg == true){t = t - (t * 2);}
Jerrasterix: why do you need this ?? Sombody101
Sombody101: im cheating in a puzzle
Sombody101: im close though
Sombody101: im outputting the wrong integer lol
Sombody101: i might have had this right
Painestrea: Hello
Mortis_666: hi
Catdbb: what's the best programming lang
Sombody101: you mean which language should you learn?
DerelictD: All of them. Focus on the one that suits you best. that's what will be best for you.
ALostDev: im trying this site to learn c# but legit cant even do the easy stuff
Sombody101: same
Sombody101: im still struggling to make a function that finds the closest number to 0 given an array of integers
DerelictD: yeah i just started here too. I don't see much in the way of "teaching materials" per se, but it is a good platform for trial and error.
ALostDev: yeah doesnt really teach but i feel like it just makes your skills better
Sombody101: yeah
ALostDev: anyone know any resources to learb c#?
Cederkaeppen: Sort the array ascending and do a binary search for 0.
Cederkaeppen: Or just sort the array ascending and find the index where i-1 is negative and i is positive, then return whatever is closest to 0 of the two
Sombody101: what im doing is checking if the int is negative, then doing Math.Abs()
Sombody101: then checking the low number, and doing: if (t < 0){neg = true;}
Sombody101: wait
DerelictD: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/99c4a320-2161-4109-93a3-eebd7e033b34
DerelictD: annoying. easy to trigger it putting my chat in a paste
Sombody101: if (neg == true){low = low - (t * 2);} to get the number back to its negative
DerelictD: just dont modify the array element. take the abs of the element[i]
DerelictD: dont check for negative either, just abs everything. the abs function check for negative.
DerelictD: checks*
Sombody101: well, i know that, but i need to know if the original number was negative so i can convert it back after checking that its close to 0
Sombody101: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f8bd75d3-a42a-4688-904e-09a562ff4ec4
Sombody101: This is the entire script:
Sombody101: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/b614c463-80e2-47bf-b329-c2d6ff1f7704
DerelictD: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/8782ed1a-5503-4e10-a488-1213b4e3d0fa
DerelictD: woops. left the return in there.
DerelictD: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/58b2c8f0-e5f7-409a-a00e-c6b6f12cbce7
DerelictD: fixed
Sombody101: int low = inputs[0]; is getting a implicit conversion error
DerelictD: unless i'm totally missing the point of the problem. i dont understgand why you initialized low to 100,000
Sombody101: string to int
DerelictD: just put the int.Parse in front of it. i missed that.
Sombody101: i just set it that high to ensure that it could be erased by the new number
DerelictD: nah, you just want to set it to the first number in the array
DerelictD: makes no sense to compare the array numbers to a number thats not in the array.
Sombody101: you used .length for an array?
DerelictD: its been a long time since I've used java. think of it as pseudo code. im not running it here.
DerelictD: what is it, size?
Sombody101: this is c#
jacek: oO
DerelictD: hah, i dont do c#, i thought it was java. that doesnt matter tho, the logic is the same
Sombody101: lol
Sombody101: i mean, there were only two errors, so thats good
DerelictD: it's been nearly a decade since i've even seen java. i would have sworn that's what it was.
Sombody101: nah
Sombody101: its cool knowing these are so similar
DerelictD: a lot of languages share a lot of similarities intentionally so they're not 'scary' for new devs to pick up.
Sombody101: so it passed the fist test, but failed the second one
DerelictD: whats the second test?
Sombody101: the second one is only negative numbers
DerelictD: ah, i didn't notice you specified that. negative number closest to zero?
Sombody101: well, its both
Sombody101: i think i know what to do though
Sombody101: go ti
Sombody101: got it*
Sombody101: op
Sombody101: never ming
Sombody101: mind
DerelictD: lol
Sombody101: it got to test 4 this time
DerelictD: which game is that?
Sombody101: its called temperatures
DerelictD: im getting bored witht his pod racer game. i'm stuck working on making the pod drift. it works great most of the time, but sometimes tries to drift when it's not appropriate.
Sombody101: i felt the same way
DerelictD: sometimes I lap my opponent, and in others, i unintentionally dodge the checkpoint at the first approach.
i think i know what the problem is, just can't decide how to fix it.
Jerrasterix: hmmm
Jerrasterix: what is your problems explain here
derjack: bronze league?
DerelictD: i'm not taking into account the position of the next checkpoint when deciding if a drift is appropriate. At times, my inertia will cause me to swing past the checkpoint just before the drift is executed.
DerelictD: silver now.
Jerrasterix: are you simulating ??
Jerrasterix: Drifting need you to simulate the game to work nice
DerelictD: I'm not sure what you mean.
Jerrasterix: how are you doing the drifting ??
derjack: maybe target next checkpoint - pod's speed, instead of just next checkpoint
DerelictD: just before I reach a checkpoint, I'm targeting the next checkpoint.
Thorcode: hey jerra
Jerrasterix: hey Thorcode
Thorcode: how could you got a rank so high in mad gold
Thorcode: what have you use?
Sombody101: your pod might think its reached its destination before getting there then
Sombody101: look at the x y coordinates
DerelictD: yeah I've messed around with offsetting the targetting, and i get similar results. sometimes it works great, other times it fails miserably
Jerrasterix: Drifting, speed adjusting according to angle
Jerrasterix: DerelictD, you need to simulate your bot, like you need to have a for loop and lookahead for 5 turns
Thorcode: could you tell me that the angle they give us is the next checkpoint angle or the angli
Thorcode: or our pod
Jerrasterix: angle of our pod
Jerrasterix: you can use it ti find the next_checkpoint_angle
Jerrasterix: *to
DerelictD: I'll mess around with simulating. That sounds like an interesting idea.
Uljahn: yeah, simulation means predicting your future state given the initial state and a sequence of actions
Jerrasterix: your don't need an accurate one
Thorcode: how could I find the next checkpoint angle by using my pod angle?
Jerrasterix: using atan2 function
Thorcode: ok
Jerrasterix: I am high but, I can't go to Legend ??
DerelictD: very interesting, thanks for the advice.
Thorcode: thanks jerra I figure out the atan now
Thorcode: make a blocker jerra
Jerrasterix: I have one
Thorcode: really
Thorcode: lemme check
Jerrasterix: Wontonimo told me to make a camper
Jerrasterix: I can't make it :(
Jerrasterix: Mine can't bet the top 2, making my bot lose :sob:
Thorcode: nah
Thorcode: I can't see your blocker
Jerrasterix: do you see a bot trailing the opponent's bot ??
Jerrasterix: That's my so called "Blocker"
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: I don't think that it is a blocker
Jerrasterix: do you guys use JS for visualizing the simulation ??
Thorcode: nah
Thorcode: ah
Uljahn: you can beat gold with two runners though
Thorcode: really?
Thorcode: how?
Jerrasterix: both powered by Montecarlo
Uljahn: reflex agent almost ignoring the opponent is enough
Uljahn: my two runner bot is around top330 in legend and sometimes misses checkpoints while drifting :upside_down:
Thorcode: uow
Thorcode: wwow
AlkhilJohn.: (:
AlkhilJohn.: :upside_up:
AlkhilJohn.: :backside_up:
Uljahn: :rofl:
AlkhilJohn.: :rofl:
jacek: :upside_down:
TheModified: Good EU Morning, everyone
DialFrost: afternoon for me! (morning anyways)
Sekoia: I have a coding exam this afternoon and I'm *stressed* as *fuck*
Peter12345: You got it, I believe in you!
ZakL: have any of you done a technical assessment on this website for mthree? or any other technical assessment
AlkhilJohn.: Yeah
ZakL: would you say the difficulty was medium for this websites puzzles?
AlkhilJohn.: idk
AlkhilJohn.: pretty easy
ZakL: re-assuring
AlkhilJohn.: I'm 13, been scripting for up to a year and it's fricking easy some of them
iBug: hi bro
iBug: hey bro
kavishka: can you guys tell me a question to ask, when someone presenting one of these game codes
5DN1L: Automaton2000 tell a question to ask
Automaton2000: yeah i'm still in silver
ZakL: ah ok. well im much
kavishka: can you
struct: you mean from multiplayers?
kavishka: no when someone [reseting one of these game coding a question to ask
kavishka: *preseting
5DN1L: Are you able to come up with any yourself?
struct: so if I present you a problem, you will ask questions?
kavishka: no still thinking
struct: This is what you mena right?=
struct: mean*
kavishka: yes
kavishka: after you present i need to ask some question like on a presentation
struct: so you ask questions related to the code?
kavishka: yes
struct: Depends on the puzzle
jacek: print("hello world"). any questions?
iBug: HAHAHA
kavishka: haha
iBug: I having a question
kavishka: tell
5DN1L: It's easier if you can find some real codes and rehearse. guess it's difficult to come up with questions without anything to base on
iBug: How to learn english
iBug: my english so bad
kavishka: like power of thor
5DN1L: yeah
iBug: Fuck bye！ I'm going to eat dinner
iBug: thanks guys
jacek: oO
5DN1L: how random
iBug: you thinked
5DN1L: thought
iBug: you can have a random
5DN1L: The feeling that you know every single word yet you don't understand the entire sentence...
jacek: Automaton2000 what is RNN?
Automaton2000: astrobytes do you use bitboards
Uljahn: Automaton2000 what is GCN?
Automaton2000: i'm too lazy to check if the next checkpoint
5DN1L: That's why Automaton2000 is still in silver lol
Automaton2000: idk how to use the same rules
AlkhilJohn.: wait is AUtomaton2000 a bot
Automaton2000: you can do what you can do on cg
AlkhilJohn.: ok
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: cant wait for the contest
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000 bot
Automaton2000: just to get the hang of it
AlkhilJohn.: fucking Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i have an idea what to do
AlkhilJohn.: what
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: they both have the same problem
AlkhilJohn.: ok Automaton2000
Automaton2000: madknight i have been in a convenient format ffs...
5DN1L: No spamming
AlkhilJohn.: yeah bloody bot
DialFrost: lol
5DN1L: You wanna be kicked again?
AlkhilJohn.: no
AlkhilJohn.: I think Automaton is a bot
AlkhilJohn.: Wait who here is and isn't a bot
DialFrost: <33 guess
5DN1L: Just don't spam, ok?
AlkhilJohn.: ok
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000 who programmed you
Automaton2000: makes me want to puke
AlkhilJohn.: ahhh scuff that damn bot Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i mean, i don't have any idea what the problem is that
TonWnachai: :heart:
DialFrost: automaton2000 wassup
Automaton2000: what do you mean by that
AlkhilJohn.: automaton2000 yo how ya doin in the bot world
Automaton2000: but i agree it would be interesting
ninjadip: kill all humans
AlkhilJohn.: ;kill humans
ninjadip: i mean bots
AlkhilJohn.: ok
ninjadip: lol
ninjadip: i just started the pod racing yesterday, man it's really fun for anyone who hasn't tried it
xyz-1: Agree, there could be more bots like this
derjack: there is 'single player' search race
DudeShesJustNotIntoYou: Sup guys
Flaise: Good morning
RamOnFire: o/
Flaise: Man, what a sad username xD
Flaise: "dude, she's just not into you"
CodingArtillery: Lol.
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 getting some love again ?
Automaton2000: cool to see what the code is really good
Lachrymosa: Morning AntiSquid
AntiSquid: good morning Lachrymosa
humanbeethoven: ho
humanbeethoven: ]
humanbeethoven: ho
Vladutzu10: world
DavisZ: i have a bug where the video is not showing, anyone know a fix?
5DN1L: DavisZ You mean a video on Codingame?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: try the fix requests channel #fr
5DN1L: :smirk:
DavisZ: yes man, dont know how to @ people here, when i share, i can what happened, but when the coding page is opened i cant
5DN1L: You just type their name to @
paracoxat: i exist
5DN1L: DavisZ Try refreshing the page first?
DavisZ: lol... i guess it helped...
5DN1L: Great :)
DavisZ: ty
humanbeethoven: o[p
5DN1L: humanbeethoven, first warning, please stop spamming, or you’ll be kicked out
Wontonimo: this is a public chat. be respectful, no spamming, generally stay on top and generally keep conversation to coding or codingame
Wontonimo: *topic (not top) lol
Wontonimo: stay on top also, it's all about the leaderboard
5DN1L: i've kept my stock phrases in a doc lol
Wontonimo: i used to do that, but for shot ones I just type it. it's good typing practice. but now my keyboard is sticky and dying ...
5DN1L: indeed, shot for short
Jerrasterix: did you write any java code recently ??
Wontonimo: :emoji-of-waving-fist:
Wontonimo: yeah
paracoxat: i exist
Jerrasterix: That's the cause of your sticky code ...
paracoxat: :()
Jerrasterix: *keyboard
5DN1L: you won't exist if you keep typing that paracoxat
Wontonimo: hey paracoxat, no spamming
paracoxat: LOLOL
paracoxat: ok
Jerrasterix: did your org use Log4j Wontonimo ??
Wontonimo: yeah Jerrasterix, indeed my own keyboard was inspiration for making that contribution
Wontonimo: yeah, we use log4j.
Jerrasterix: Are you guys still using it or what ??
humanbeethoven: so sending more than 1 message is considered spamming huh
Jerrasterix: if its not on topic
Jerrasterix: Then YES
5DN1L: sending meaningless things here counts, humanbeethoven
Wontonimo: yeah we are still using it. i'm not sure what the plan is Jerrasterix
Jerrasterix: Okay, now does a bot programming animation need JS ??
Jerrasterix: in CG
Jerrasterix: I am planning to do one :)
DavisZ: in pod racing, why my pod is like 3x on one point? while boss has no lag with points...
Wontonimo: yeah, unless you do something really weird with CSS transitions, i think js is the only front end option Jerrasterix
Wontonimo: share a replay link DavisZ
DavisZ: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/598448901
Jerrasterix: I am planning to do CG version of this https://v.redd.it/wai2t3z32y181/DASH_720.mp4
Wontonimo: DavisZ , it looks like you are probably printing twice per round
Jerrasterix: probably an Ultimate version, if I can
Wontonimo: just print once per round
DavisZ: ty
Wontonimo: look at the debug print output on the left hand side and verrify that the output is what you expect
Wontonimo: i see "100" then "Boost" alternating
DavisZ: yea, i tried to implement 2 ifs in there what changes printed output depending on dist or angle, ill work on it
Wontonimo: * hint : in the if's set variables. Then after all the if's use ONE print to print the values
DavisZ: yea, it makes perfect sense why thrust was string before :D
CaptainHenryAvery: lol
CaptainHenryAvery: who said coding was that hard
CaptainHenryAvery: xd
CaptainHenryAvery: i look at c# and it like throwing a ball of randome info at me
CaptainHenryAvery: xd
Wontonimo: share a replay of your bot with the code fixed DavidZ :thumbsup:
DavisZ: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/598452545 still playing around it
Wontonimo: nice, looks like the bug is fixed ! congrats
DavisZ: ty, it was because my power was int, and i tried to put BOOST as seperate, not overriding power
DavisZ: its my first try on these games :D
Wontonimo: what's your background in prrogramming DavidZ ?
SupercraftD: /me
DavisZ: @Wontonimo i just started, im attending quite intense c# courses and now im learnig it for like a month
DavisZ: @Wontonimo but i havent done any programming before, at courses we did like 2 themes at week, starting from data & variables, moving trhue loops, array, etc, and ending with classes and objects, collections and poly, now kinda waiting testing to start, while have to deal with clash'es ( 250 to reach), reading yellow book and stuff like that
Wontonimo: very cool. congrats on entering this new world
DavisZ: sometimes i have nightmares with infinte loops just running before my eyes :D other than that its pretty awesome
Wontonimo: lol ... that's just from intensity of study. pat yourself on the back for being so intense. Few people can sustain that level
Wontonimo: if it is your dreams, then your subconscious has finally been convinced that it is important to learn and pay attention to
Flaise: Yay, got my second legend level achievement. Almost as though I'm some kind of addict or something.
Sekoia: community addict eh
Flaise: See what I did there? Wacka, wacka, wacka!
Wontonimo: seek help Flaise, perhaps a 10 step program. I suggest getting 10 more legend badges to help your addiction problem
Flaise: But.. but then I'd stop being a perfect square
Sekoia: you have 2 legend achievements that's not a perfect square what
Flaise: Level 16
Wontonimo: you'll just have to go to level 25
Wontonimo: sorry
Wontonimo: I think the levels should have names and be given a dungeon map icon. Level 1 should be something like "puddle trap". Level 2 "obvious foot sized hole", level 3 "single slime" , etc
Wontonimo: instead of being "how many levels you have", it should be more like "how many levels of the coding dungeon you have cleared"
Flaise: I had a friend look at the quest map on the home screen and he said it looked like Dungeons and Dragons for some reason.
Wontonimo: he hasn't played D&D imho
jacek: huh
Flaise: He has. But I have and I have no idea why he thinks it looks like D&D. xD
Flaise: You know what would solve my addiction way faster is getting a job :o
BlaiseEbuth: Faster reach lvl25...
STALKER_HEART_OF_CHERNOBIL: hi all
Wontonimo: hi all-1
Wontonimo: * now everyone is wondering if they are the -1
5DN1L: -1 is yourself :D
BlaiseEbuth: You're the only -1 Wontonimo... :smirk:
Wontonimo: that's right. to say hi to yourself is a sign of being cray cray
Wontonimo: /kíck BlaiseEbuth
jacek: go hi yourself
BlaiseEbuth: Oh. That's funny. Thanks for highlighting a little bug Wontonimo. ^^
BlaiseEbuth: https://imgur.com/a/BKnRe0S
Wontonimo: i put a space infront and changed the i to í to make sure it didn't actually kick you
Flaise: Hi Flaise.
Flaise: ...oshit
Wontonimo: sorry if it wasn't obvious that it was a joke BlaiseEbuth :(
BlaiseEbuth: It was... Did I gave you the feeling I took it seriously?
BlaiseEbuth: I was speaking of the bug on the pic I shared Wontonimo, not of the kick that didn't kick.
Wontonimo: what's the bug in the pic?
Wontonimo: oh, was it highlighted in green on your screen?
BlaiseEbuth: The big ugly green highlight...
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah
Wontonimo: oh, very interesting.
Wontonimo: /will this highlight in green also BlaiseEbuth
BlaiseEbuth: That's from my script. I changed the color of the notification on the channel tabs, but seems the html class is the same for the hl messages. ^^
jacek: oh my
Wontonimo: I decided to use the markov chain contrib I was working on to make chatbot like babble. Here's some examples of what it made
Wontonimo: today a man a fire and hell be warm for a small arms dealer.
i hear theyre going to give him a glass of water.
i failed math so many times at school, i thought, that sounds like a fair trade.
the reception was fantastic.
Wontonimo: https://tech.io/snippet/4zV6y1K it has some chat history and some 1 line jokes hard coded in it
jacek: is it Automaton2000
Automaton2000: oh, so it's not so much
BlaiseEbuth: :D
Wontonimo: yeah, not so much for sure
Wontonimo: just a few dozen training phrases hard coded
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: my children need wine Automaton2000
Automaton2000: need to check for the next
SupercraftD: i just passed the python certification! finallllyyy!!
ninjadip: nice
ninjadip: curious are you learning on your own or in school or what
SupercraftD: on my own
BlaiseEbuth: Ye! Another one is better than >99% of the professionals !
SupercraftD: how accurate is that rating :sweat_smile:
BlaiseEbuth: -INF approximately
ninjadip: they've done studies: 80% of the time, it works every time
SupercraftD: huh
SupercraftD: cool
ninjadip: a joke... lol a logic joke. from a movie
ninjadip: you failed if you didn't get it
SupercraftD: oh
SupercraftD: i didnt get it
d4rkAi: xD
ninjadip: 80 percent of the time it works every time...
SupercraftD: :frowning2:
ninjadip: you don't get it
ninjadip: ?
SupercraftD: oh
SupercraftD: now i get it
SupercraftD: I speedread it
SupercraftD: first time
SupercraftD: now I get it
zakacat: congrats on passing the cert
zakacat: who did you go thru?
SupercraftD: wdym
Wontonimo: this site
SupercraftD: who?
Wontonimo: he means he passed the certification here on CG
zakacat: Right, okay, gotcha
SupercraftD: ohh
BlaiseEbuth: Wontonimo I need a ping \o/
Wontonimo: ping BlaiseEbuth
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah! That works. Thx
Wontonimo: /kíck ing the tires for BlaiseEbuth
zakacat: lol
zakacat: Is there an autoformat hotkey I can use for my garb-code?
Sekoia: oh my god python is so easy
Sekoia: I keep winning clashes now
Dren: lol
Dren: clearly you haven't run into many ruby coders
Dren: like Alecman
Wontonimo: yeah, zakacat: try using [ctrl]-a then [del]
BeBopping: In Clash of Code, I'd love to be able to continue working on a problem after the clash has completed. Does that seem like a good feature request?
zakacat: lmao
5DN1L: BeBopping what you said was also mentioned in this chat many times before :)
jacek: :O
BeBopping: What has the response been? Is it a good request? Is there some other place I should be posting the feature request? Thx.
jacek: forums or discord. but it has been suggested many times i think
jacek: as alternative you can search for that clash and complete on your own https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
BeBopping: How do I search for the puzzle using the information from the results screen? I don't see a title or a link or any other useful info. Even just having a link to the puzzle from the results screen would be satisfactory.
Sekoia: Dren I'm counting "winning 50% of the time" as "keep winning" :P
Sekoia: If I see somebody using Ruby or something less conventional, generally I know I'm not gonna get it cus those people are insane
5DN1L: BeBopping you'll have to remember some words from the clash in order to search
BeBopping: Thanks 5DN1L. It's nice that we at least have the ability to find the puzzles, but it seems like a pretty bad UX. Simply having a title and link available from the results page doesn't sound difficult to do, and it seems like it is a popular feature request. Is there a recommended way to get the dev's attention with this suggestion? Are Forums/Discord the most successful routes, or something else?
5DN1L: that search function is not even developed by CG :upside_down:
5DN1L: i mean the link given by jacek
5DN1L: both the forum and discord are read by CG staff
BeBopping: Very true. But there may be a simple solution that uses existing CG functionality. Surely CG has an interest in improving their platform. I'll try the forum and discord, then.
5DN1L: BeBopping For the forum, you may read through this post first to see if anybody has raised the suggestion before. https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/clash-of-code-bugs-improvement/833
5DN1L: If not, you may post a suggestion there. Better not start a new thread
BeBopping: thx 5DN1L
5DN1L: :)
jacek: "Surely CG has an interest in improving their platform" :rofl:
5DN1L: if and when an improvement can at the same time improve their profitability perhaps?
jacek: shall i suggest them to add ads to clashes? :imp:
5DN1L: you can't start the clash until everyone has watched the ad :joy:
BeBopping: lol
Wontonimo: they are at their heart a head-hunting company which operates on a very short sales cycle. Software and product dev is a long sales cycle. There is a conflict right there and the short cycle will trump the long cycle 99/100 times
Wontonimo: i bet CG is seen as a lead generation tool for them, and funding and priority is set according to how many dev leads they can get.
jacek: any tool to draw simple NN with labeled edges?
Wontonimo: what kind of labels? the weights?
BlaiseEbuth: "Surely CG has an interest in improving their platform" :rofl:
jacek: more like weights names
jacek: i think for xor example ill draw it myself
Wontonimo: how would weights have names ?
jacek: im doing this https://tech.io/playgrounds/14705d9666eec05d31493ca3c54ff10d13695/neural-network-xor-example-from-scratch-no-libs
BlaiseEbuth: Following your own tuto?
jacek: so the images would be 3 layers: inputs nodes, hidden nodes and output node. and there would be w1,w2,b1 etc. labels
Wontonimo: you don't want to use numpy ?
jacek: plus i dont know if i got the backprop right there.
Wontonimo: or an array ?
jacek: i want the simplest simple. numpy obscures things imo
picoplankton: what is the secret sauce to solving don't panic in <200 chars; I feel like I'm missing something. 250 is as low as i can go in python...
Wontonimo: imo a matrix IS the weights. not using a matrix is obscuring the situation
5DN1L: picoplankton https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/dont-panic-episode-1-codesize-puzzle-discussion/686
jacek: well the array example will be on next page
Wontonimo: cool cool
jacek: but when i write this thing once again, it quite often diverges or not converges enough
jacek: when i changed derror = error * sigmoid_prime(output) into derror = error, then it converges faster
picoplankton: @5DN1L yea; i've looked at that thread. It suggests I need to not use python, but i see others have successfully done it. its the input lines that eat me alive on this one.
jacek: but we always update according to derivative no?
Wontonimo: yes, because the random uniform is HUGE
5DN1L: picoplankton I think that thread does mention some python tricks?
Wontonimo: and there is no guarantee that you have a good spread of + and - values
BlaiseEbuth: picoplankton https://github.com/clemg/pythongolfer
Wontonimo: jacek , try setting the b random values to be -0.1 to +0.1
jacek: oh right, changed to -0.1, 0.1 and it works better
Wontonimo: may as well make that a variable/const at the top
VARIANCE = 0.1
Wontonimo: I'd also suggest changing
if (i+1) % 1000 == 0:
to
if (i < 1000 and i%100 == 0) or i%1000 == 0:
Wontonimo: and change the range from range(10000)
Wontonimo: to range(1,10001)
jacek: mhm
picoplankton: i see the cheat sheet; hadn't noticed it before
jacek: and now it almost never converges :?
jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/48803546-cc01-4222-a8ea-19991bb73abf
picoplankton: still -- this is a stupid exercise. I used to hire programmers and anyone who would have handed code into me like this, would have been off my team faster than they could type an if statement...
jacek: you dont use code golfing at work? :O
jacek: then how do you save HDD space
picoplankton: god no ! i'm not a programmer, but I need to be able to read the code
picoplankton: if its not readable, its useless
picoplankton: i dont' want anyone on my team who can't write readable code just to feel smart
jacek: ahh learning rate 0.1 too small, need to make 0.3 or more ~
picoplankton: its not 1995 anymore; we don't have to conserve disk space writing code ;)
Wontonimo: jacek here are the changes i've made that make it converge nearly all the time https://tech.io/snippet/50I9jyN
jacek: nice!
jacek: thanks
Wontonimo: variance_W = 0.5 , variance_b = 0.1 , alpha = 0.2
jacek: mind if i put them
Wontonimo: please do!
5DN1L: picoplankton hmmm, I thought it was mentioned in the thread but i can't find it. one non-language-specific trick: use just one line for reading inputs. Not three lines.
5DN1L: one while loop for everything
picoplankton: that isn't to say that shorter code can't be more readable
picoplankton: @5DN1L I don't see how, since one fo the readlines is in a loop and needs to be done more than once
5DN1L: but you can tailor based on some specific characteristic of the inputs
Wontonimo: i see what you mean by naming Jacek. I'd rename w1-w6 to be w11 , w12 , w13 , w21 w22 ...
jacek: yeah, i saw examples with those as well
Wontonimo: it will help when transitioning to matrix
Wontonimo: because then it is w[1][2] for w12 :D
jacek: i meant to draw something like that https://media.cheggcdn.com/media/725/7258c8b8-1984-4591-b65b-8b23b0b6f9f5/phpQ2IYQz.png
Husoski: picoplankton Code golf is not application programming. So what's the beef?
picoplankton: i don't see how its useful; all it teaches you is how to write unreadable code
Husoski: You wouldn't want your limo driver to drive like a NASCAR driver, right? (But you might want him to have some of those skills just in case.)
picoplankton: never teach things that develop bad habits
Wontonimo: no, it teaches you to come up with a different way of coding a problem then what you are used to.
5DN1L: I agree with Wontonimo
jacek: and to write chinese in python scripts
Wontonimo: I learn new language features when looking at really good golfs.
picoplankton: i'm not a coder, I guess; i'm very results oriented. I need to get the job done and move on; and I need to be able to come back a year later and interpret it
Husoski: jacek ROFL
jacek: oh right, you can try https://clemg.github.io/pythongolfer/ for you solution!
Husoski: *ROFFL
Wontonimo: it's not Mandarin, it's just random unicode. :unamused:
picoplankton: ergo; i would never hire someone who can't give me code I can't read. The stuff i have to produce to reduce the code size is not readable; even by me a few weeks later
picoplankton: perl is like mandarin to me....
5DN1L: picoplankton new language features from code golf ≠ unreadable code
5DN1L: it depends how you apply them
5DN1L: on*
Wontonimo: how about a programming who takes 20 lines to do something in 2 readable lines? golf isn't just about obfuscation, it is about simplicity
Dren: yeah they are unreadable because you don't engage with it
picoplankton: I agree
picoplankton: if it makes is clearer i'm all for it
struct: all my bots are codegolfed
Wontonimo: then just focus on that picoplankton. you don't have to do what others say, you can play the code golf by your own rules
picoplankton: and on something thats 200 chars, thats probably OK, but if I have a script of 5000 lines, i'm not sure its a good idea
picoplankton: when you have a team
picoplankton: and the team changes over time
jacek: its just for competition. i dont see any practical use for code golfing either
picoplankton: and is composed of students who are learning
jacek: except maybe to find some clever tricks
struct: I learned coding from reading the 1kb chess engine
struct: https://vole.wtf/kilobytes-gambit/
Uljahn: i agree with jacek, nobody tells you to use codegolf in real projects, it's just an exercise for improving your understanding of a language
picoplankton: i think there are better ways to do that... just my 2c
5DN1L: fair enough, everybody has his/her own learning preference
Uljahn: whatever floats your bot, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: this time i have to look at the time
Wontonimo: wow struct, that is a really cool 1kb of code. like, wow. Thanks for sharing
jacek: it wont fit into CG liimit :(
jacek: Automaton2000 did you kill the chat
Automaton2000: my ai is really bad
Wontonimo: hey jacek, I added a very rudimentery L2 constraint to your NN and now you don't need to deal with the variance thing https://tech.io/snippet/UXdpSnf
Wontonimo: from lines 49 to 60, this constrains the weights to not explode
Wontonimo: which is what was happening to your previous NNs
jacek: oO
jacek: whats 25
Wontonimo: but a MUCH better implementation would be to include it in the backprop as a derivative
Wontonimo: 25 is 5*5
Wontonimo: it just caps the weights out at about +5/-5
Wontonimo: if you change it to 2*2 then it will cap the weight at +2/-2
jacek: nice
struct: jacek is already unstoppable :(
jacek: but is regularization neccessary if you have 100% data set :thinking:
Sekoia: coding speed level Legend complete
jacek: :tada:
Wontonimo: yes, because regularization helps your NN not explode from gradient descent
Wontonimo: and it will train faster
Wontonimo: in the link is sent with regularization, the NN is good after 3,000 training steps instead of 10,000
jacek: i was thinking to just show snippsets with short explanations
jacek: first example with bunch of variables, second with array and customizable hidden size, third with momentum
Wontonimo: oh, yeah. i didn't mean to derail your techio thing. i just thought you'd be interested in the regularization thing.
jacek: :+1:
struct: what are you working on jacek?
jacek: a brief tutorial on NN to freshen my mind
Schwase: NN = neural network?
jacek: eeyup
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5DN1L: I don't understand any of this
Outsmarted: You can go on ph.club.youtube.com
Leeeooo: yes yes
Leeeooo: I'm biling
Outsmarted: You stuuuuupid
Leeeooo: I have 570 of TEpitech
struct: stop or you will both be banned
5DN1L: it looks spam to me
Outsmarted: Really?
jacek: struct still mod?
struct: yes
struct: Ill just delete when I don't want to be a mod anymore
Alexander97: Hey guys
Alexander97: I need help :D
Alexander97: For the ASCII Art puzzle
Alexander97: I`m doing it in C
Alexander97: anyone interested?
5DN1L: ask your question first :P
BlaiseEbuth: https://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh/
5DN1L: "anyone interested" doesn't count :smirk:
Alexander97: Well I Wrote an algorithm that Works for printing a Whole sentence but if there is an space or a symbol I just don`t understand hoW to make it print the symbol/space
struct: check the char code of the char
Alexander97: It is something tricky that I can`t comprehend probably
Alexander97: What I need is somebody to look at the code
struct: sure, paste it here
struct: to get the char code you can simply do
struct: char c = 'a';
int val = (int)c;
struct: in this case val should be 97
Alexander97: it is not that simple, a calculations must be done
Flaise: And noW for the pertinent question: What I Want to knoW is Why you're capitalizing all your Ws, Alexander97.
Alexander97: because the input may different ASCII
Alexander97: Flaise, my double u is not uorking and I am using ctrl+v, I`m sorry about that
Alexander97: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/84246852-7992-4d64-9cb6-db16cbbcd3b4
Alexander97: sorry, actually the uhole code is there
Alexander97: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c97f1428-e9f1-46ee-8658-89af3c462475
Flaise: oh ok haha
Alexander97: and it works on al the tests exept 06 and 04 which are man hat tan and m@nh@tt@n
5DN1L: I'm not making fun of you, but splitting Manhattan as man hat tan is funny :P
Alexander97: haha LOL :D I wrote it in a coincidence
Alexander97: Hmm I don`t know how to say it
Alexander97: In English
Alexander97: How do you say for example that what you just did is a coincidence
Alexander97: [offtopic]
5DN1L: by chance?
Wontonimo: cowinkydink
Alexander97: aah okay
Alexander97: Hey there wontonimo
Wontonimo: hey hey Alexander97
5DN1L: I just convert each char to its ascii value in my solution
5DN1L: same as what struct suggested
Alexander97: but each char is already on it`s value right?
5DN1L: then subtract a constant based on which range the ascii value lies
5DN1L: to convert ascii value to the location (index) of the new representation
5DN1L: if outside the ascii value range of A-Z and a-z becomes the constant which represents the index of "?"
struct: yeah you can even do an if to check the char range
struct: if((T[k] >= 'a' && T[k] <= 'z') || (T[k] >= 'A' && T[k] <= 'Z'))
struct: you do what you are currently doing
struct: else you need to print the last "char" of the array they give you
struct: I think its a ?
Alexander97: I am so tired and confused that I can`t even understand what is going on. Sorry about that
5DN1L: Maybe you can copy our comments first, take a break, and read them later? :wink:
Alexander97: That is exactly what I was thinking to do
5DN1L: :)
Alexander97: I can`t believe it took me almos a whole day and I`m still stuck
Alexander97: However I really thank you for the assistance and I deeply appreciate it <3
5DN1L: :thumbsup:
TimothyAlexisVass: Solve the following puzzle to prove that you are not a :sailboat:
Alexander97: I know I am not and I will really solve it
Alexander97: By the way what does it exactly mean somebody to be a boat? :D
Wontonimo: i've never heard that before
5DN1L: Neither have I
Wontonimo: perhaps he meant bot
Wontonimo: :bot:
Wontonimo: :robot:
Wontonimo: :rowboat:
Alexander97: lol :D
Wontonimo: robot = :robot:
rowboat = :rowboat:
boat = :boat:
Wontonimo: :sailboat: sailboat?
Alexander97: like sailing bot?
Alexander97: lol dunno
Wontonimo: i was thinking of making a sailing bot battle
Alexander97: what would it look like
MyMonkey: how different from Coders of the Carribean would it be ?
Wontonimo: top down like mad pod racing. physics based. you have control of your sheet and rudder and daggerboard
Wontonimo: what's coders of the carribean now called?
5DN1L: Galleon Wars
Wontonimo: there would be a current, sailing rules like right of way
Wontonimo: and somewhat slightly changing winds
darkhorse64: More like a race with "maritime" physics, stealing wind ?
Wontonimo: yeah
darkhorse64: Interesting
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: all the big CG twitch guys have quit, I wonder why
darkhorse64: No cannon ? :disappointed:
Alexander97: CANT BELIVE IT. Just noticed that it was expecting me to type ? for space and @
Alexander97: Not actually the real ' ' and '@'
struct: thats what I said Alexander97
Alexander97: 5DN1L Thank you!
Alexander97: And struct
Alexander97: yea just I couldnt get it for some reason
BlaiseEbuth: big cg twitch guys ?
Wontonimo: i watched 3 of those, and each time i only stuck arround fo about 15 sec
Wontonimo: was it a thing?
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: how can i take a test to get a certification ?
Wontonimo: from what i saw only 1 to 5 viewers at a time
Wontonimo: go to your main page TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63 and click on one of your language skills
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: ok thank you wontonimo
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: goly used to have big crowds, and that girl with the afro, and that guy who removed one language at a time from clash
5DN1L: That's a lovely system-generated name 🥦
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: yep :)
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: i am though a lovely brocolli
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: spot on
5DN1L: :smirk:
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: oh, and the asian girl who's boyfriend banned me for saying IQ is heritable
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: i guess that is true
BlaiseEbuth: Public earning issues probably... :smirk:
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: i used java but it is still saying in my profile that "No programming languages used yet"
5DN1L: You have to solve a puzzle in that language first
Wontonimo: you have to solve puzzles
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: ah okay
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: i solved one but not completly
Wontonimo: 100% or nada.
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: okay
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: thank you again wonto :)
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: can somebody gives me some tips on how i can pass a technical assesment in java for an internship ?
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: got a 246 / 1146 on my java assesment that i did today :(
Wontonimo: what things did you do poorly on ?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I doubt they generate new material for the assessment. Just solve all puzzles first
Alexander97: All puzzles? Bud i`ll get old if I do that first
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: haha
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: but yea i need more practice i guess
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: wish me luck guys
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: need to get that internship
5DN1L: Good luck!
Alexander97: finally did it
Alexander97: just the statement should be if out of range the char to be == to 104 so it prints the ?
Alexander97: Thank you again 5DN1L and struct
5DN1L: :)
5DN1L: What's 104?
Wontonimo: 13*8
Wontonimo: jk
5DN1L: :smirk: don't spam :smirk:
Alexander97: lol wontonimo.
5DN1L it is a position for starting point of printing ?
5DN1L: I dunno, you mentioned 104
Alexander97: However it doesnt work on the last test for other ascii
Alexander97: DEM
Wontonimo: what lang are you using Alexander97 ?
Alexander97: wontonimo C
Wontonimo: you can use
int x = '?' ;
to get the ascii right?
Alexander97: nono it is about a position of and array
5DN1L: The statement does mention "The characters that are not in the intervals [a-z] or [A-Z] will be shown as a question mark in ASCII art."
Alexander97: that gets an input and I print it every row
Wontonimo: sorry i wasn't following, link to puzzle plz
5DN1L: ASCII Art
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/ascii-art
Alexander97: 5DN1L yeah I see. How can I enter the max size but not the whole of an array which has a lot of empty elements
5DN1L: max size?
Alexander97: I haven`t learn that. I`ll give a look
5DN1L: ???
5DN1L: I don't understand what you're asking
Alexander97: The array is 1025 but it is filled lets say up to 300
Alexander97: and the rest are just 0
Alexander97: so I have to find that 300 value
Alexander97: one option is via for loop, is there other simpler way to do so?
Wontonimo: make a variable to keep track of it
Alexander97: My god I have done that but forgot to use id somehou
jacek: sacre bleu indeed
jacek: chess eh, kovi
picoplankton: i really don't get the 200 char solution for don't panic
picoplankton: 251 is as good as i get
picoplankton: i gained 1 character via the suggested 'cheat sheet'
picoplankton: but i feel like i'm missing something about the logic
picoplankton: cause i have no idea how to shorten this by 51 characters - v=int(q[0])
w=q[2][0]
Y=(g[v]<int(q[1])and(w=='R'))|(g[v]>int(q[1])and(w=='L'))
Schwase: in python?
picoplankton: yes
Schwase: thats not your whole code
Schwase: but i have it at 198 now
picoplankton: no
picoplankton: its not
picoplankton: but its the logic; everying else is input etc, whcih you can't really shorten any
Schwase: yes
Schwase: you definitely can
5DN1L: you can get away with using input() just once in the whole code, as I told you earlier
Schwase: you can also alias input
Schwase: I=input
Schwase: I() is the same as input()
Schwase: or use definitions
Schwase: theres plenty of things you can do
5DN1L: When I say using input() once, I don't mean aliasing, I mean really just once :joy:
Schwase: yeah but learning some basic python code golf tricks will be helpful
Schwase: the code right now still has plenty of golfing improvements that could be made
5DN1L: agreed
5DN1L: i'm making progress very very very slooooooowly
Schwase: oooh
Schwase: the interval thing
5DN1L: in the forum thread?
picoplankton: i see no way to have just one input function when there are three inputs, two of which are in loops
5DN1L: you have to be creative :P
Schwase: just to be clear, we aren't discussing any hardcoded solutions right? just things based on the statement/constraints?
picoplankton: i tried the aliasing thing; but somehow it didn't work
jacek: oO
5DN1L: if the inputs are "x x x x x x x x" do a; elif the inputs are "x x" do b; else do c
Schwase: oh
Schwase: so yes, hardcoded?
5DN1L: no
Schwase: oh ok
5DN1L: just visualising
5DN1L: i have no hardcode at all
Schwase: yeah just making sure we're discussing the same thing
ninjadip: something about input
5DN1L: yes something about a certainty property of the input
5DN1L: which distinguishes the three what-to-do-next
Schwase: yep
Schwase: so thats each turn?
5DN1L: so you can use one while loop, then if-elif-else
Schwase: do you not use the initialization input??
ninjadip: should it be hard to get out of silver league in pod racing
5DN1L: it's also inside the while loop
ninjadip: changed the entire logic from a table of reference values to formulas, and it's not as good
picoplankton: you can get out of silver in pod racing with a little physics
ninjadip: yeah that's what i'm tryin to do. wish i wouldn't have cheated to pass calc now
jacek: -3vel
picoplankton: na; don't even need calc; just consider drift
jacek: [solved]
ninjadip: do u think it's best to slow down before checkpoints if the velocity is high or to just keep the speed?
ninjadip: that's what i'm workin on
ninjadip: I wish i knew the location of the next checkpoint to drift accordingly
ninjadip: i meant the next next location
ninjadip: lol
picoplankton: There are a couple of things i had to do, if I remember correctly, and yes, modulating speed is one of them
picoplankton: yupp; need to track those
ninjadip: that's what i was thinking
ninjadip: one bad lap to learn all the points
picoplankton: but you don't know them on the first round
ninjadip: exactly
ninjadip: that's in my todo list
picoplankton: it only helps you on teh second and third round
picoplankton: i found that considering drift made much more of a difference
picoplankton: but both mattered to get me to gold, i think
ninjadip: yeah i'm considering it alright
ninjadip: lol
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: i am having some issues in the Don't panic episode 1 , can't pass the test Few rounds
ninjadip: i'm trying to find that sweet spot of when and how much to slow down before checkpoints
ninjadip: whats that game about?
ninjadip: i'm super new to this
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: yea me too
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: super new
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: like 2 days ago new
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: that kind of new
ninjadip: my first game is this pod racing, and i'm hooked. got to silver in a day
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: nice
ninjadip: whats the problem
jacek: pod racing, that brings some memories ~
TheLovelyBrocolli_ff63: Don't panic game is about getting the robots to the exit point ninjadip
picoplankton: 237 on Don't Panic with aliasing....
picoplankton: its personal now
jacek: have you tried the chinese characters trick yet
picoplankton: ?
jacek: https://clemg.github.io/pythongolfer/
Schwase: wtf
5DN1L: I don't use that and is at 147.
picoplankton: omg
picoplankton: seriously
jacek: try to use that and see how much you can get
Schwase: gotta love ascii haha
5DN1L: 99. not submitting that though :D
jacek: oO
picoplankton: OMG
picoplankton: 144
picoplankton: that's cheating !
jacek: :tada:
picoplankton: and really gets my juices going about unreadable code
5DN1L: I'll continue to work on shortening my 147 instead :P
jacek: it's really readable :v
picoplankton: how the heck does this even work ?
Schwase: its ascii
Schwase: you can go to Q&A
jacek: maybe its cheating but if you only care about the quest, whats wrong
Husoski: If this is about the Python .encode() hack, I've already posted my complaints on the forums and discord. The whole issue goes away if they counted source code bytes instead of Unicode code points.
Schwase: also its the same as the issue of hardcoding
Schwase: theres no way to stop someone from getting the top scores using it, so its unfair to grandstand about it when other players will use it to get ahead
Husoski: I don't see that. Hardcoding requires knowing the answer in advance, doesn't it?
Astrobytes: I think Schwase refers to hardcoding validators in the optims
Schwase: it definitely used to happen in code golf puzzles as well however
Astrobytes: (i.e solve offline and hardcode the solution for each validator)
Astrobytes: Yeah I think they changed them since though
Astrobytes: and do regular reruns/changes
Schwase: yeah i was looking into that, i kind of came to that conclusion
Schwase: bulls and cows 2 is randomized for example
Astrobytes: Yep. Some optims are designed to be done offline as well
Husoski: Randomized input would fix that, but I guess the framework isn't set up for that. I've only authored one clash, so I'm pretty new at that.
Astrobytes: I'm not a clash fan :)
Husoski: Sometimes it's fun. If players are willing to share and talk over solutions it can be good.
AntiSquid: oh thor has some new validators to go north ?
Astrobytes: Yeah totally, just my personal preference :)
Astrobytes: Since a while I think AntiSquid
Astrobytes: *while ago
Schwase: 4 validators is sooo short still
Astrobytes: it's designed to be simple I believe
Flaise: I don't like clash much either
Flaise: Ironic that it's my best ranking out of all the categories.
Astrobytes: heh heh, well it decays pretty fast so don't get too attached to it :D
Flaise: I'm forcing myself to keep playing one round per day, at least, so that I can get to the next step on my quest map.
Astrobytes: *the points decay pretty fast
Astrobytes: lol, that quest map :D
Astrobytes: I skipped the clash path hehe
Flaise: If the next step of the path is like 100 clashes, 250 clashes, I'm just gonna say fuck it, I'm done. But I placed very well right off the bat, which kept me going this far. But it sucks because now it feels like there's nowhere for me to go but down.
Astrobytes: It's something like that yeah. I'm not sure since I stopped at "win 2 clashes" or something
Flaise: Ah, not even that interested? I don't blame you. They feel dumb.
Astrobytes: I prefer Bot & Optim
Schwase: i only have the bot programming pathway left to complete
Schwase: im at the get top 2% part
Flaise: Yeesh, the path gets really demanding at the end..
Flaise: I wonder if a bot contest with only wood league and none of the other leagues would count
Astrobytes: iirc it's only official ex-contest multis that count (ie. Wood -> Legend
Astrobytes: )
Flaise: Makes me feel like I've wasted time on at least two of the bots I've written.
Astrobytes: There is no such thing as wasting time on bot programming unless you just sit and stare at the IDE ;)
Astrobytes: The Quest Map isn't everything. And you learned some tricks doing the bots you did so far
Flaise: I think the knowledge I learned along the way is I suck at minimax programming.
Astrobytes: you're using alpha-beta pruning right?
AntiSquid: it's all about the friends you made along the way
Astrobytes: :grin:
AntiSquid: didn't see the person who said that on here in years btw
Astrobytes: was that inoryy?
Flaise: I'm not using alpha-beta pruning. I may go back and add that later. But I think the thing that's killing my AI is I may have gotten the position score evaluation wrong.
AntiSquid: forgot their name
Astrobytes: You're gonna need a/b pruning on CG for sure, with these time limit constraints
Or64bit: Guys any idea why the pod racing animation does not run? I mean the console logs everything and one of the two pods wins, but the screen is frozen for the entire animation
Astrobytes: refresh
Astrobytes: it's a pixi.js thing
Or64bit: Thanks :D
Astrobytes: np
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: Speaking of JS, did you try out BitBurner properly yet?
AntiSquid: forgot it existed
Astrobytes: heheheh
AntiSquid: Offline for 2 days 23 minutes 5 seconds. While you were offline, your scripts generated $0.000, your Hacknet Nodes generated $0.000 and you gained 0.000 reputation divided amongst your factions.
Astrobytes: that's cause you didn't do anything :P
Flaise: Congratulations on not losing anything? :P
Astrobytes: lol
GamingGnawer: I am trying to solve the puzzle Treasure hunt
GamingGnawer: and my code solves 5/6 cases
GamingGnawer: but on the largest test i get a very wierd response
GamingGnawer: I had half expected to run out of time
GamingGnawer: but it resolves fine, just gets the answer a few billions off the mark
AntiSquid: there 4billion dollars
GamingGnawer: I'm tasked to find as much gold as possible,
they expect 39. but I make it out with 589504547
GamingGnawer: you'ld think they'd be happy ;P
Flaise: (You're supposed to pocket the difference, you amateur.)
Astrobytes: hah!
GamingGnawer: :grimacing:
GamingGnawer: :laughing:
GamingGnawer: if (gold > expected)
pocket += gold - expected
flakerimi: what is the matrix
AntiSquid: a rectangular array or table of numbers which is used to represent a mathematical object or a property of such an object flakerimi
flakerimi: @AntiSquid Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to. :)
Flaise: When I do graphics programming, I enter lots of little matrices. Not this one big matrix; that's silly.
AntiSquid: i read the leaked plot, it was horrible flakerimi
AntiSquid: should have ended with first movie, which was a masterpiece for its time
flakerimi: people on twitter: I love matrix, people gonna hate it
AntiSquid: the 2 sequels were bad
Flaise: I saw the second one and it was :S meeeehhhh
flakerimi: I disagree
AntiSquid: well in that case i guess you watched resurrections and liked it ?#
Perler: <3 u all
Astrobytes: Matrix sequel was ooookayyyy but not a patch on the first imo. They should have left it alone, I agree.
AntiSquid: on a scale from "better watch a different movie" all the way up to "i should do something else instead" where do you think this sequel fits best?
flakerimi: Still. maybe tomorrow
Astrobytes: (by sequel I mean Reloaded)
AntiSquid: ah .. well the 3rd sequel just came out yesterday (15 mins past midnight here)
Astrobytes: not sure I'm gonna bother with it tbh unless I hear unexpectedly good things
AntiSquid: well i watched Bill and Ted 3 and it felt depressing
flakerimi: you have to watch it as whole
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: Oh damn dude, I caught about 20 minutes of that and turned it off, what a total wreck
flakerimi: you cannot watch lord of the rings 1
flakerimi: also its subjective too
AntiSquid: flakerimi who says i didn't watch them all ?
Astrobytes: everything is subjective
Astrobytes: anyway, gotta run, take care and gn all
AntiSquid: i don't like the sequels, you seem to very enthusiastic about fixing someone else's opinion about a movie they don't like but you like :joy:
AntiSquid: gn8
flakerimi: nah, I am not trying that
flakerimi: just expressing what I thing
flakerimi: think
ninjadip: omg the new bill and ted is the worst!
flakerimi: I havent seen even old one
ninjadip: if the first one is 100, the old sequel is like an 80 or 90 and the new one is like a 10 or 20
ninjadip: those are my apples
ninjadip: believe it or not the first one set some new time travel precedents and rules
flakerimi: I like to see new matrix, from Wachowski Sisters perspective, first 3 was from brothers :)
ninjadip: like how if you have a time machine, you can just say or think "hey i'll go in the future and bring back a million bucks to the me standing here" and blam! it's movie magic and time travel history
ninjadip: finally getting somewhere in the pods silver league
flakerimi: good night guys, off to watch 'Sorry'
Wontonimo: hey ninjadip , how goes silver league?
ZXC01: hi!
Wontonimo: hey ZXC01 , how's it goin?
ZXC01: great
Wontonimo: i'm looking at your replays ninjadip https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/598530684 and can see that your pod isn't slowing down as it is getting close to the checkpoint
Wontonimo: also, it isn't anticipating the next checkpoint after having gone around the track once
GamingGnawer: does anything wierd happen if you have many nested function calls in c++?
GamingGnawer: like recursive calls
Flaise: You can end up with a stack overflow
StickMan5121: hehehehe
ButtholeBoy: Butt
StickMan5121: :joy:
StickMan5121: wtf
nikelhaus: report this guy lol
Wontonimo: kicked
nikelhaus: he's still in my clash atm
Wontonimo: kicked from world chat
Wontonimo: he hasn't been banned from the server. if it continues he may be
GamingGnawer: I get no error, but the code manages to produce different results when called with same parameters
AlkhilJohn.: Yeah the bloody guy
AlkhilJohn.: I don't wat porn on this site
Wontonimo: for what multi GamingGnawer
pneuma303: Agreed
pneuma303: Please ban ButtholeBoy
GamingGnawer: I'm doing the Treasure hunt easy puzzle
AlkhilJohn.: I want his account delete/his pfp reset
CptReynolds: how long does it take to update rank ?
GamingGnawer: solves 5/6 tests but behaves very strangely on the largest grid
CptReynolds: or how often does it happen
Wontonimo: AlkhilJohn., you've been unpleasant to others here. cool it
AlkhilJohn.: How have I been unpleasant
AlkhilJohn.: The stuff I have done is nothing serious
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000 Telk this mod I am innocent
Automaton2000: i've never done anything like that
AlkhilJohn.: Yeah
AlkhilJohn.: see?
Wontonimo: then continue and meet the reality of being banned
AlkhilJohn.: ok, ok, ok lets just chill it for a little
Wontonimo: do you have any randomness GamingGnawer ?
GamingGnawer: no, it's a pathfinding search, should be completely deterministic
Wontonimo: and which test case is causing issues?
Wontonimo: 06 "that's a maze" ?
GamingGnawer: yes
GamingGnawer: the desired output is 39
my function returns 589504547
on the first call
Wontonimo: and have you printed out step by step what it is doing while trying to solve that one? like a picture of the path so far
GamingGnawer: an 28 on subsequent calls
Wontonimo: have you looked at the test case?
Wontonimo: here it is
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/76ab6a72-e584-4f49-881b-2acc09ea9127
Wontonimo: it doesn't add up to 589504547
GamingGnawer: hihi, no it does not :P
Wontonimo: there is no way to collect that much treasure
AlkhilJohn.: ok
AlkhilJohn.: I am doing it now.
**AlkhilJohn. testing this command
**AlkhilJohn. slaps testing this around a bit with a large fishbot
GamingGnawer: I wrote a function to output debug data for each step and to track all pointzs gatehered
AlkhilJohn.: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Wontonimo: no more AlkhilJohn. you can play with these commands here #test_area
Wontonimo: anymore spam here AlkhilJohn. and its a kick
GamingGnawer: and I haven't the faintest idea how it managed to find 589504547
AlkhilJohn.: alright. Also, what really happens when you get kicked? Can't you just rejoin by refreshing?
Wontonimo: so, the IDE will only give you so much debug output. But you can copy your code and the expected input to your computer and run it there and see all the debug you want
BFB123: Hello!
Wontonimo: change you name or get banned.
BFB123: WTF?
BFB123: Reload
BFB123: I did change my name
BFB123: and pic
Wontonimo: ah
Wontonimo: good job
BFB123: Lol sorry about that
BFB123: that was very immature of me
AlkhilJohn.: Yes, but there are also kids here, fix yourself.
BFB123: Yes sir.
BFB123: Wait isn't AjkhilJohn a bot?
AlkhilJohn.: Let's not get into that
BFB123: :o
aimenrma: only some times
Wontonimo: GamingGnawer is your bot able to do 04 "Easy life" ?
myNickName01: :joy: dude's crazy AF ... rofl
GamingGnawer: yes all works fine except the last on 06
AlkhilJohn.: GamingGnawer is there an output for the 6th test case?
myNickName01: there are terms and conditions....obey them...
myNickName01: or face deletion
GamingGnawer: it's supposed to be 39, but I get on the first call of my function and 28 on subsequent calls with the same parameteres
GamingGnawer: *589504547 on the first call
GamingGnawer: which tells me something has gone very wrong
Wontonimo: what does your program report this has
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2c83a5f6-4011-4084-b221-3afc48be0fe0
Wontonimo: it is 21 x 21
Wontonimo: you can use the custom thing to run it in the IDE
GamingGnawer: eeh... that gives segmentation fault
Wontonimo: oh
GamingGnawer: oh no
Wontonimo: i'll make a smaller one
GamingGnawer: sry
GamingGnawer: it gives 0
Wontonimo: it can't find the 5 ?
GamingGnawer: (i just forgot to add the dimensions)
GamingGnawer: guess not...
Wontonimo: well, there is a problem then
Wontonimo: probably that is easier to find the bug for than 06 "That's a maze"
AlkhilJohn.: Ahh yes, I see the issue
GamingGnawer: actully.... it gives 1432063536
GamingGnawer: and then it gives 0
Wontonimo: instead of 5
AlkhilJohn.: The path detects the end when it cannot go left or right, but still up.
GamingGnawer: yes, it's nice to have multiple wrong answers
Wontonimo: can you print out which cells it has visited ?
Wontonimo: for the 0 case
Wontonimo: like, how did it miss the gold
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: has anyone noticed the puzzles here have a huge amount of repetition? I mean, do we really need 50 BFS puzzles?
Wontonimo: are called 'practice' for a reason... :thinking:
GamingGnawer: oooh I found a bug
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I'm just worried people here won't be well-rounded.
GamingGnawer: 100% win!
Wontonimo: what was it?
GamingGnawer: When examaning a node i used
auto& x{stack.back()}
GamingGnawer: and then if a node was exhausted i would pop the stack
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Maybe a puzzle where you are given a big chunk of code and you have to debug it to pass. That's more like a real-world task
GamingGnawer: but after this i would pass x.score back the recursive function
GamingGnawer: and that was ofcourse undefined now, that the stack.back() had been deleted
GamingGnawer: As is often the case, I now wonder how that ever worked for the first 5 tests :P
zyi: How to play it？
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I bet if I took my freecell solution and introduced 50 compiler errors, and then another 50 things you have to fix to get 100%, people would have great fun solving
Jerrasterix: does JS not support recursion ??
Wontonimo: no, i like solving my bug because i have more skill in solving them.
Wontonimo: yes, js supports recursion Jerrasterix
Jerrasterix: then what is tail call optimisation ??
AntiSquid: https://javascript.plainenglish.io/javascript-optimizations-tail-call-optimization-tco-471b4f8e4f37
AntiSquid: Tail call optimization means that, if the last expression in a function is a call to another function, then the engine will optimize so that the call stack does not grow.
Wontonimo: oh, nice. i didn't know that
AntiSquid: me neither, i just found out lol
Jerrasterix: Ohhh.... Thanks AntiSquid!! :)
AntiSquid: np, gn8, matrix 4 sucks btw, worst movie in a while
CptReynolds: is it out ? lol
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: probably all about a 14 year old girl who knows everything like all the other new movies
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: looking at you ghostbusters
ipsissimus: hello friends
ipsissimus: can this be shortened even more?
for i in range(0,len(w:=input())+1):
print(w[0:len(w)-i]+'*'*i)
ipsissimus: i think it can be 1 lined but idk how
Wontonimo: yeah, just get rid of the return
ipsissimus: i mean with everything inside the print function
ipsissimus: like:
ipsissimus: print(x, len(x) for x in range(0,y)
ipsissimus: or something like that\
Wontonimo: print("\n".join([w[0:len(w)-i]+'*'*i for i in range(0,len(w:=input())+1)]))
ipsissimus: hmm i thought i tried something like that but the puzzle complained
ipsissimus: ill play with that solution on it with the puzzle search tool
ipsissimus: thanks
Flaise: Argh. Why can't I fix my bot. Why I gotta be so dumb.
Wontonimo: which bot?
Flaise: Clash of Bots
AlkhilJohn.: How do you do treasure hunt puzle (easy)?
Flaise: The top 5 are stomping me into the ground
Jerrasterix: did clash of bots get approved ??
Andrew_OHara: What's clash of bots?
Flaise: Yeah, Clash of Bots is already public
Flaise: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/clash-of-bots
Andrew_OHara: Ahh cool ty
Jerrasterix: this is a different one :(
Flaise: You're thinking of "Explode Another Day". That one's still WIP.
Flaise: lol I had the naming conversation with the creator on Discord.
Jerrasterix: Cool
Mr_BlueBird: woo-hoo 3 days ago i came to codingame after 3 months and my rank in clash of code was 15, 000 i code day and night, and now my rank 5,914
Mr_BlueBird: *never give up*
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: come back in 3 more months and you'll be in for a shock
Wontonimo: nice. do so me of the multis Mr_BlueBird
Mr_BlueBird: what do you meant by shock, what will happen?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: it decays with time. not sure what the formula is, maybe wont knows
ipsissimus: straight to brazil
ipsissimus: believe it or not
AlkhilJohn.: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/treasure-hunt
AlkhilJohn.: I have trouble with this
Thorcode: bruh
Schwase: what
Schwase: oh its a fake account
Schwase: lol
Thorcode: you seee the dot?
Automaton2000.: hi
Automaton2000.: could some one help me wwith mad pod racing?
Wontonimo: set thrust to 100
AlkhilJohn.: Automaton2000 There is a copy of u lol
Automaton2000: i have an idea for a multi
Automaton2000.: like howw to get through bronze
Wontonimo: on this page https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back there is a list of "External Resource" The first resource is gold
Automaton2000.: wwhat iss velocity/
Automaton2000.: alot of pp tlak about it
AlkhilJohn.: When is the spring challenge thing
Thorcode: y wwon't love it
Thorcode: the lasst fall kinda tough for my team
Thorcode: it lasst 3 hours for our team
Thorcode: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/uFw-Dqs-1u4-Gab
Thorcode: thiss iss an ez version off it
DerelictD: I am not a robot.
