PatrickMcGinnisII: :innocent::astonished:
eulerscheZahl: that's a 30% redneck
PatrickMcGinnisII: Biden either, they all crooks
eulerscheZahl: i was ruling for Bernie
Thorcode: Shepherd's crook?
Thorcode: or it have another mean?
eulerscheZahl: fraudster
PatrickMcGinnisII: Politicians here are all garbage
wyenat: Bernie "Gotta change the world to make it more equal" into "please "vote for this billionnaire from a powerfull family over this billionnaire from a powerful family" TWICE
PatrickMcGinnisII: i was rooting for Andrew Yang, but he quit... quitter...smh
eulerscheZahl: i don't even know that one
wyenat: He's the universal revenue guy
PatrickMcGinnisII: He liked entrepreneurs and tech
PatrickMcGinnisII: Read the proposed US 2022 budget, proof positive they all crooks
PatrickMcGinnisII: it cost 100Billion to collect an extra 90Billion in taxes...smh
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm not a redneck, I can do math
PatrickMcGinnisII: :(
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm watching a Turkish Sitcom, oh crap it's a historical drama. heh
eulerscheZahl: then let me share this article about early US history
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03972-8
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, yup they been finding all kinds of relics all the way across N America
MeBen: y'all sometimes hope you get beat in clash because you feel like there's a clever solution you can't find?
Good_Coder: ya
PatrickMcGinnisII: I trace my family back to the 11th century, when we arrived in Ireland. Before that we were in a mountainous region of N. Spain. In US since 1846...potato famine
Thorcode: why all pro in cg got low rank in clash?
Good_Coder: idk
Thorcode: like the top one got rank 18000 in clash
PatrickMcGinnisII: clash points are temporary
MeBen: I think clash is newish, and a lot of the top ranked regular CG members probably haven't played much of it
wyenat: Your clash points go down, so there's not much points to maintain them
eulerscheZahl: thor because top players don't care about clash
eulerscheZahl: we are here for the multiplayer games. i can assure you that i could climb the CoC ranks quickly
wyenat: and let's be honnest, it's fun to be 1st in most challenging aspects like multiplayer league based games, CoC you're gonna find string that can be reversed approximately 100 times
eulerscheZahl: yes. in short: repetitive and not really challenging
eulerscheZahl: apart from golfing, i'm bad at those. but i don't feel joy doing it either
wyenat: I think "size of code" is funny but suffers from language differences rather than ability
wyenat: And reverse mode is plain out useless for me
eulerscheZahl: choose the right tool for your problem
PatrickMcGinnisII: quick doesn't mean clean code, short doesn't mean readable... kinda enforces bad coding practices... although it doesn't take hours to get your coding fix
eulerscheZahl: anyways, getting ready for work. bye
PatrickMcGinnisII: later king eulerscheZahl
wyenat: Sure, but competing in size of code is just Ruby vs exec(bytes) in python
TechnoBot: I just finished a puzzle, what r u guys talking about?
TechnoBot: my ranks r going up!
TechnoBot: i mean down
TechnoBot: i mean like
TechnoBot: u know
dooon: reverse sucks big balls
PatrickMcGinnisII: gheesh 120 lines of code to do "Simple AI duels"
PatrickMcGinnisII: fml
bongsoon92: hi
PeakMaster: hola
JHBonarius: jeez. I tried this certification test on GC, but hated it and quit. Now it says I score a 2/100 for C++.
JHBonarius: this is stupis.
JHBonarius: glad it can be hided
JHBonarius: stupid*
Coddertech: java is best
martinpapa69: c++ is bester
Coddertech: java
Mundgus: Every language beautiful as own way :)
JHBonarius: APL all the way!
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Coddertech: join clash
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WildSiphon: i can't join
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WildSiphon: too late :(
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Thorcode: stop spamming guys
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NamKL: stop spamming guys cái clmm
Thorcode: if a mod here he can ban all of you guys
Thorcode: he or she
Uljahn: or it
NamKL: if a mod here he can ban all of you guys
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Thorcode: Uljahn you don't think you will use that command?
Thorcode: that fun :)
Thorcode: :joy:
MASTER123: :D
MASTER123: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2025602f621d106e54265b5beb92e3708fe43b6
Uljahn: pls post clash invites on #clash channel, not here
Thorcode: could you use "/" kick on me?
Thorcode: I want to see how it work :D
Thorcode: pls Uljahn
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RemoStein: hs digga
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ToastedPilot: who else high af rn
RemoStein: i'm zooted bruh
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ToastedPilot: im zooted aswell
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RemoStein: fr fr
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ToastedPilot: schick mir den bubatz rüber ehrenmann
TechnoBot: shut up
ToastedPilot: TechnoBlade imma play Man Hunt but in reallife and hunting your ass off
RemoStein: ja hallo, wann bubatz legel?
ToastedPilot: don't take a look in ur closet
TechnoBot: I dont even have a closet
TechnoBot: lol
TechnoBot: HaHaha
ToastedPilot: homeless ass
TechnoBot: I have a mansion!
ToastedPilot: just kidding ur a nice person i guess
TechnoBot: so u shut up
RemoStein: mf storing his clothes on the ground
ToastedPilot: techno bro don't be rude
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ToastedPilot: me_irl
TechnoBot: :smirk:
ToastedPilot: u gay
RemoStein: wer ist er digga
Uljahn: stop spamming here guys
ToastedPilot: Uljahn bre
RemoStein: sorry bre
TechnoBot: SRRY
TechnoBot: what?! i just said sorry
Uljahn: i said stop
TechnoBot: oki
darkhorse64: Uljahn: ban all these clowns
ToastedPilot: im friendly man
ToastedPilot: guys what is the difference between var and let in javascript
TechnoBot: hmmmmmmm
TechnoBot: let me think
TechnoBot: i know!
ToastedPilot: scoping
ToastedPilot: at a certain point right
TechnoBot: var in javascript means you create a varibale
ToastedPilot: and var is older
ToastedPilot: let is the same man
TechnoBot: ok
TechnoBot: let is var
ToastedPilot: not exactly
TechnoBot: but newer
ToastedPilot: yes
TechnoBot: kind of
TechnoBot: hey
ToastedPilot: hi
RemoStein: where we droppin boys?
ToastedPilot: Tilted Towers man
Uljahn: that's enough i guess
5DN1L: ToastedPilot https://www.tutorialspoint.com/difference-between-var-and-let-in-javascript
[CG]Thibaud: :+1: Uljahn
TechnoBot: Hi
TechnoBot: Im back with more "Coding"
MSmits: isn't var vs let a scoping thing?
MSmits: I found it very counterintuitive the few times i was presented with js
MSmits: besides that, i am allergic to variables being declared in a loop that are then accessible outside the loop
ProCoder03: not just you, very C/C++/C# programmer will be :joy:
MSmits: and java too i guess and probably many other languages :)
TheColorWheel: brb
Uljahn: please abstain from "brb" spam, having lvl3 is not an excuse to be annoying
TechnoBot: oh
TechnoBot: so someone is spamming
TechnoBot: im trying to code
TheColorWheel: ok
TheColorWheel: mr. admin
TechnoBot: seriously?
Thorcode: he is jusst a mod
TechnoBot: yeah
Thorcode: not admin
TechnoBot: yea
TechnoBot: but still
TechnoBot: respect
Thorcode: have power
TheColorWheel: okie
ISAI: hey can some one help me
TechnoBot: ok
Thorcode: ok
TechnoBot: Ill help
Thorcode: what the problem?
ISAI: how to sort
TechnoBot: accuttaly well both help
ISAI: loop variable without making arra
TechnoBot: error?
ISAI: arry
TechnoBot: hmmmm
ISAI: array
TechnoBot: what puzzle
Thorcode: we should talk in private
TechnoBot: name
ISAI: scan a in loop
TechnoBot: wait
ISAI: and sort it
Thorcode: ez
TechnoBot: we'll talk private
Thorcode: just chat private with me
ISAI: without making array
TechnoBot: #CODEisai
TechnoBot: join
TechnoBot: lets talk there
TechnoBot: ISAI
Thorcode: He use C
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sarawisniajd: hi
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niluthebear: :wave:
sarawisniajd: use this app
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MSmits: Uljahn
niluthebear: lol
martinpapa69: MAD POD RACING
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vancouver: wtf
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MSmits: martinpapa69 fear of copyright :)
sarawisniajd: i don wanna be alone
sarawisniajd: any mnikre
martinpapa69: oh
vancouver: imo sus
sarawisniajd: imo tez
sarawisniajd: martytna is lookig for a gamer
sarawisniajd: bf
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sarawisniajd: martinpapa69
vancouver: come on bro
sarawisniajd: u?
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sarawisniajd: batrosz
vancouver: chill bro
sarawisniajd: ur in??
vancouver: no.
MSmits: please stop the spam or take it to private messaging
sarawisniajd: WHY??
sarawisniajd: O OKEJ
sarawisniajd: MSmits
Nygson: yooo
MSmits: wow 7x5 C4 takes me longer to solve than 7x6 C4, because 7x5 is a draw. I think I need to put my ab pruning for mcts solver in.
MSmits: if most nodes are solved draws then mcts solver has a really hard time
MSmits: this is a good way to test the effectiveness of the pruning trick too. I can compare both ways to do it
struct: hi
Bon[]Crayon: ho
LittleFlea: on there is no spoon i just add the given string to a list in the readline loop and it give me an error sayin i didnt wait for all input before printing out something.why
struct: are you reading all the inputs before outputing?
LittleFlea: pretty sure .i didnt change their initial code at all .just add the given row to a list to iterate later.
LittleFlea: an then i do another for loop to check for answer.my code work and everything when tried on VS but it always give me the error here
struct: if you want message me the code
struct: i can take a quick look
MSmits: 2 million nodes to solve 7x5 and 500k nodes to solve 7x6. Damn
struct: how long does that take to solve?
niluthebear: Harcoded typo In There is no Spoon - Episode 1 Note Section
MSmits: the 2 million took a few hours
struct: not too bad
MSmits: each node is either a solve with < 70 ms or a played game
struct: do you use bitboards?
MSmits: yeah, both in the meta mcts and in the bot that it uses to play the games an solve
MSmits: but just to be clear, the 2 million could have been like 50k i think, if not less, if i used optimizations for draws
MSmits: seeing it happen live, made me realize how important these are
struct: you know that because the game isnt solved as a draw right?
MSmits: 7x5 is solved as a draw
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/66f8a807-fc56-44c7-87d2-d8ec4861832e
struct: I see
MSmits: this is 7x6
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/00d2760f-f150-46e2-9801-21418177a196
MSmits: you can see how much easier it solves
struct: maybe you need to update some stuff before you move into the other board sizes
MSmits: i will
MSmits: i am using these smaller sizes as a testbed
MSmits: i am just happy so far all the results are identical to the known results
MSmits: so i think i am bug free
derjack: or you both are wrong
niluthebear: Oo
MSmits: thats always a possibility, but a remote one when there's so many sizes to check :)
struct: i would solve it on paper just to be sure
MSmits: lol!
MSmits: i dont have enough paper even for the smal ones
Astrobytes: Write a proof. ezpz
MSmits: bleh doesn't sound like fun
MSmits: once I am done optimizing the solver I might write it out on tech.io
Astrobytes: :+1:
MSmits: the tricks for dealing with draws i mean
Astrobytes: yep
MSmits: i think to some degree it's helpful in a normal bot too. I am going to have to do it in the meta mcts program first and then try it in the bot itself. Both times i should get improvement
Astrobytes: Seems a promising idea at least
MSmits: I know it works because sometimes I am looking at the parent node having 3 drawn children and 1 unsolved child. The unsolved child already has a drawn child, which means the whole thing is a draw, but it just keeps searching, sometimes wasting minutes to an hour
Astrobytes: an hour!
MSmits: easily, i think the 5 hrs it spent solving 7x5 could have been 15 mins or less, that's my guess
struct: damn
Astrobytes: Jeez. That's... significant
MSmits: yeah, the thing is, with solved wins or losses you only have to fully explore every other layer, with the draw trick you can get close to that
MSmits: brb
Diwash: :ok_hand:
Thorcode: ruby kinda cool
Thorcode: in shortest
niluthebear: the numbering of rows and cols of there is no spoon made me lot of bugs
darkhorse64: "I know it works because sometimes I am looking at the parent node having 3 drawn children and 1 unsolved child. The unsolved child already has a drawn child, which means the whole thing is a draw". Err, what if one of the unsolved nodes is a win ?
jzen: Does private clashes increment clash participation count?
Thorcode: no
FeralitowyWojtas: maybe
FeralitowyWojtas: depends
FeralitowyWojtas: guys
FeralitowyWojtas: do you want to talk about our lord and saviour Jesus Christ?
salezJanek: OH YEAH!
Uljahn: nah, we talk about coding here
FeralitowyWojtas: Then it might be a wrong place for me :(
salezJanek: im so into the church
FeralitowyWojtas: Im so into GOD
salezJanek: hmm I can be your god if you want ((:
Uljahn: use DM guys
FeralitowyWojtas: no
FeralitowyWojtas: fuck off
salezJanek: sorry
RayChen: hi, guys
RayChen: good night
salezJanek: its 3pm in middle europe
Thorcode: you guy can make a god channel :D
Thorcode: why you kick me Uljahn?
Uljahn: you asked for this
Thorcode: oh I forgot that
Uljahn: next time is ban
Thorcode: why?
Thorcode: what have I done
Thorcode: Uljahn 07:49PM
next time is ban
is this text true?
Uljahn: pls keep the chat related to coding
Thorcode: ok I just worried to be banned
Thorcode: and lose my acc
Uljahn: nah, you acc is safe, you just lose the chat
Thorcode: ok I will keep clashing :D
Thorcode: yeah my rank up in clash
Astrobytes: Thorcode: we don't require a running commentary thank you
Uljahn: darkhorse64: if one of the unsolved nodes is a win then it's a loss for the parent child
Uljahn: which is worse than draws
darkhorse64: Thanks, I always forget to "change the sign" when backpropagating
Uljahn: https://imgur.com/a/G7iT54b
struct: oh I see
struct: I dont have that in my solver
MSmits: hey that's my pic
MSmits: i recognize the amateurish paint skills
MSmits: you can even make use of this during selection btw.
MSmits: don't select children that have at least 1 drawn child
MSmits: because those can no longer be wins
MSmits: only when all children have 1 drawn child, do you start selecting them
MSmits: as soon as one of them gets solved as a draw, the whole thing is a draw. So you're tackling the problem both from the selection side and from the solver side
darkhorse64: Although I do not use it in selection, I have a best/worst result in my node. Once solved, best == worst. This way, you can still backpropagate "at least draws", even if not all nodes are not yet solved.
darkhorse64: too many "not". Even if all nodes are not yet solved
Uljahn: here's another MSmits' pic https://imgur.com/a/WT2rvDU
struct: does your current bot has this features MSmits?
struct: these*
MSmits: no, the current bot has a TT only
MSmits: In the meta mcts program it's a nobrainer, but in the nornal bot it could only be a small improvement or none. It complicates things
struct: hmm, I might try
struct: it seems easy to implement
MSmits: it's not hard, just becareful at the root node
MSmits: you could have a root solved as a draw, with only 1 of its children solved
MSmits: all the other children will have at least a drawn node
MSmits: (child)
MSmits: but because of the pruning, the exploration stopped
MSmits: you can research the children or just select the fully solved node, the other ones will be draws or worse, so...
struct: yeah should not really matter much
MSmits: i think i'll go for the easy fix
MSmits: this helped me solve a little bit faster in drawn uttt games
struct: this should prune the tree a lot I guess
MSmits: but c4 has way more draws
struct: maybe not prune but it will help you to explore other nodes
MSmits: yeah, you know that that particular branch will be at most a draw, so it's better to go elsewhere
struct: time to open my tic tac toe mcts bot and test it there
MSmits: so even in non-drawn games you should have some benefit. Also our c4 with starting move 1 seems to be a solved draw, so that matters
MSmits: I say *seems* because i have no proof
MSmits: I continued my 7x6 solver for the 1 and 2 starting moves. Move 0 is a loss and move 3 is a win. I just realized this could take a day without the draw optimizations
MSmits: does anyone know if the 1 and 2 moves in c4 are draws?
MSmits: (normal 7x6 c4)
sobirjon: hello!
darkhorse64: https://connect4.gamesolver.org/ will get you all answers
MSmits: thanks
MSmits: thats great
MSmits: 1 is a loss and 2 is a draw
MSmits: so it's loss-loss-draw-win from left to right
MSmits: seems consistent: https://imgur.com/a/cEBZAKL
MSmits: I could use this site to verify the whole tree
MSmits: or at least a sizable chunk. To see if i have bugs
darkhorse64: The source code for the solver (mm based) is also available
MSmits: oh, yeah i've seen several of those. Have you seen any based on mcts solver? It seems fairly rare
darkhorse64: Only MM so far
struct: you can even do post to get positions to check with yours
struct: this is how it looks with empty board
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2506be05-f518-41a0-b843-3a96ed9322be
struct: after I play on center
struct: score: [-4, -2, -2, -1, -2, -2, -4]
ja_fica: sorry for spam C4...
MSmits: oh
MSmits: are you apologizing for our benefit ? :P
ja_fica: xD
ja_fica: This bot has openinig book + NN + TT
ja_fica: neether of them are good enouth
MSmits: oh you mean the submit. I thought you were apologizing for our c4 spam on chat
ja_fica: no xD
ja_fica: the submition
MSmits: you got wins vs me though
ja_fica: I'm trying several configs. I will try it local xD
ja_fica: the NN may behave fine sometimes
ja_fica: my bot is what I like to call very unstable
ja_fica: maybe I should remove TT for now xD
MSmits: ja_fica test vs a local bot that has a random component. Maybe one with extra calculation time to make it stronger
MSmits: going by the leaderboard seems like a bad idea
MSmits: with all those deterministic bots
ja_fica: yh, I don't really kow what to change
MSmits: you give it maybe 1 full second per move, but on the value calculation you do +- 0.05
ja_fica: NN outputs seems to be working very nice
ja_fica: at least ooutputs what I trained them for
MSmits: this reminds me of when i trained that TTT NN
MSmits: it could play perfectly 97% of the time
MSmits: 100% seems impossible
ja_fica: but my bot is losing too much
MSmits: yes but when it loses, how many mistakes did it really make. it could be only 1
ja_fica: I can try convolutions and use PUCT instead, but convs are much slower
ja_fica: good point of view
MSmits: You could try train a c4 7x6 bot and then test various architectures for your NN vs known positions to get a % for the number of mistakes it makes
MSmits: 9x7 should not be that different
MSmits: you can get a much better idea of what general approaches work well
ja_fica: I will try to use PUCT now, it seems to make sense
MSmits: also testing convolution and such
ja_fica: im just propagating the value of the state right now
ja_fica: im wasting the power of the NN
MSmits: you mean no policy?
MSmits: jace k never uses policy afaik
MSmits: and does well
ja_fica: I have tried multiple configs
ja_fica: this time I wanted to try a smaller network using only the value
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: i watched that documentary about alpha go
MSmits: with the game vs Lee Sedol
ja_fica: like jacek but the difference is that he backpropagates like minimax
MSmits: quite cool
MSmits: ah yeah it's very easy to switch between ept style backprop and his jacekmax thingy
MSmits: you can try both and see what works
MSmits: i never use his method either. I believe it works, but i never got it to work better and it doesn't really click with me
MSmits: that it is supposed to work
ja_fica: the version I use it is still a faster solver because of the TT
ja_fica: this last bot was not so terrible as the others
MSmits: ahh that's good to hear
martinpapa69: convolution works much worse on c4
martinpapa69: for me at least
NlCKSTER: Hello
J_The_Legend: hi
NlCKSTER: Im a self taught beginner in C++ any recommendations to better my skill?
J_The_Legend: hmmm
J_The_Legend: i am good at almost all languages naturally
J_The_Legend: i am not sure how to give youany tips here
NlCKSTER: Nice im getting there, this website seems fun!
ankan2526: hmm
ankan2526: too much fun
J_The_Legend: try coding things that challenge you
colver123: :unamused:
jacek: Oo
JacobTheCoder: one day jacek is gonna be a mod i can feel it
TheBlueBias: :scream:
darkhorse64: Fear jacek ban hammer !!
Mortis_666: hi
MSmits: there is a good reason i don't want jacek to be mod
MSmits: he'd be forced to ban himself and then I'd miss him
struct: or he would stop trolling
TheBlueBias: Mods can't ban mods.
struct: mods cant even delete the account...
struct: their own account
TheBlueBias: Nobody can...
Astrobytes: He was actually offered the position of mod (believe it or not) but he excused himself on account of being a massive troll
MSmits: lol
MSmits: wait struct, don't tell me you found this out because you tried to delete yourself again?
MSmits: there must be some help-line fo rthis
struct: ofc, any mod is free to test it :)
MSmits: ahh ok
struct: or maybe its a bit risky :p
struct: and im joking
MSmits: well I am going to fill a hole again
MSmits: I dug it 2 days ago and now I am going to fill it again
Astrobytes: Just for the fun of it right?
MSmits: no, it's different type of sand
MSmits: tiling part of my front and backyard
Astrobytes: ah I see
struct: have fun
MSmits: thanks
gjjkdfcjnsjfn: hi! Just fyi, I am a kid, and most chats end up being innappropriate for my age, so please try to refrain from innappropriate convos on world chat byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Luigis3: :pizza:
Astrobytes: Er... right
Luigis3: Pete za
jacek: bloody hell
Astrobytes: Stop it Luigis3
gjjkdfcjnsjfn: sorry i say that every time I join a new chat bc I am 12
Luigis3: my bad
TheBlueBias: I know that MSmits. Almost no more place in my backyard, I dig up at least 2 or 3 corpses before finding a free emplacement... That's boring... :weary:
Astrobytes: :rofl:
MSmits: lol... no corpses here
MSmits: but my previous house supposedly had a car buried under my lawn
struct: lol
Astrobytes: A dead car?
MSmits: i never dug down to check. Neighbors told me this
struct: nice trolls
struct: Your neighbor was jacek
TheBlueBias: Oh... Do you rent ? :innocent:
MSmits: who knows
MSmits: i rent yeah
Astrobytes: Yeah. They probably were waiting to watch you dig a massive hole for no reason whatsoever
MSmits: lol yes
TheBlueBias: I mean as renter.
MSmits: got it
MSmits: wait
MSmits: no i dont
MSmits: are you asking to live with me, then the answer is no :P
Astrobytes: I think blaise means are you the landlord for that place
MSmits: nope
omboyo: does anyone wanna help me with: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/63980336fc4b13ed3c23c5a8a6ebdfe836fe :smile:
MSmits: anyways ttyl
Astrobytes: Later. Don't forget to give us the 'hole' story when you come back
RJ9: Hi I'm new I'm only 9 but I'm in GT so I kinda have to learn code
TheBlueBias: No. Just need another place to, huh... "tidy" my "clients". :rolling_eyes:
eulerscheZahl: "Already more than 10 000 players have registered to the event! Will you be there too? "
who of you registered before the official announcement of the format?
MACKEYTH: I did
Wontonimo: i did
jacek: :(
struct: did they mail that?
TheBlueBias: I did.
Wontonimo: mail what?
struct: What euler said
Wontonimo: i dont remember
TheBlueBias: Well. BlaiSe did.
TheBlueBias: I registered after...
eulerscheZahl: yes struct, I got it per mail
eulerscheZahl: telling my why I should join the fun
eulerscheZahl: Hello, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/709bac82-d5a7-4158-a3ae-ac868f8f7e84
eulerscheZahl: somehow none of their 3 points can convince me
niluthebear: those fun days when the contest starts :(
eulerscheZahl: and the submit takes 2h just to pass wood
struct: when 5/7 are related to team
struct: Not for me
TheBlueBias: The 3 are pretty discouraging
struct: but idc much about it anymore
struct: im doing other stuff anyways
Foxwizard5556: whats happening
TheBlueBias: Yes.
Wontonimo: the earth is rotating
Wontonimo: it may cause dizziness
MSmits: only if you don't pick the correct rotating frame of refence
MSmits: reference
TheBlueBias: &
MSmits: |
niluthebear: ^
TheBlueBias: Meh.
MSmits: we are doing favorite bit ops right?
TheBlueBias: Nope
MSmits: o
niluthebear: False
TheBlueBias: & is the reference symbol in c++
MSmits: oh
niluthebear: Oo
Foxwizard5556: haha nice one big brain
TheBlueBias: The 3yo kid is back :scream:
Foxwizard5556: oh yeah i am
Foxwizard5556: :burrito:
MSmits: you are a burrito?
TheBlueBias: Wontonimo gonna eat you...
Foxwizard5556: haha no i'm a :taco::hamburger:
jacek: taco?
Foxwizard5556: nah
Foxwizard5556: big brIANS
TheBlueBias: Who's brian?
Kafteji: brian is in the kitchen
Foxwizard5556: COOL
TheBlueBias: French joke Kafteji ^^
TheBlueBias: Anyway Foxwizard5556, 3 years old is a little young to go on internet...
MSmits: it's safe, he can't swallow his computer
TheBlueBias: :D
Astrobytes: Foxwizard5556: you're already on a warning.
Astrobytes: eulerscheZahl: 10 000? :rofl:
eulerscheZahl: lots of players register for the next event right after a contest
MSmits: I did too
Scarfield: yea i did that
eulerscheZahl: i might give jrke's Rubik a shot
eulerscheZahl: i always register last-minute
TheBlueBias: Needed it to unlock IA path on questmap...
eulerscheZahl: so now it works?
TheBlueBias: For a few days yes.
struct: you can always count the number of teams to get the actual players
Westicles: all the twitch guys seem to have switched from clashes to binarysearch
MSmits: batman?
Astrobytes: MSmits: yes?
Astrobytes: ah crap
Astrobytes: :P
Westicles: https://binarysearch.com/
MSmits: :)
eulerscheZahl: did they rename it?
Scarfield: lol Astrobytes
Astrobytes: :grin:
Scarfield: darkKnighstrobytes
MSmits: The bytes we deserve but not the ones we need?
Astrobytes: Scarlfred
Scarfield: xD
Scarfield: why do we segfault sir
pardis: Does anyone need a team member, I can do c/c++/python
MSmits: then you're overqualified :P
MSmits: they should make a looking-for-team channel
Astrobytes: Scarfield: :rofl:
pardis: Yeah everyone is doing that, so no one end up on any team
Scarfield: i think discord will be a better place to find a team pardis
Westicles: The only time I played I kept erasing Astro's code... that was fun
MSmits: you mean you were fixing bugs Westicles ?
Westicles: well, no...
Scarfield: but also yes
Astrobytes: my code?
Scarfield: was the sherlock escape any good?
struct: Programming 696 / 696pts (100%) BETTER THAN>99%
Time to retire
UndercoverToad: I wish I were that good
Westicles: I think it was Astro... we were a team and I didn't realize code was shared
Scarfield: im definately gonna be better than >99‰
Westicles: then euler left and it all fell apart
JaYS: ‰ sure
Astrobytes: Wasn't me Westicles, I only played with T Bali, struc t and Scarfield
MSmits: Hey euler I heard from dreadylein that you were awesome on a contest he was in
Scarfield: oh you havent played the sherlock then, im up for it some day
MSmits: one part of it you beat everyone?
eulerscheZahl: i only did the coding tasks. by far the easiest track IMO (of course that's relative, depends on your skills)
Astrobytes: Sure Scarfield, not seen TBali around recently mind you
MSmits: ah ok
eulerscheZahl: there was 1 tasks where we had the first solve of all teams. then again there were 15 tasks open all at the same time and I started with that one
MSmits: ahh I see. Still kinda cool to be the first
eulerscheZahl: was a fun contest
Scarfield: im in no hurry, he will turn up again :)
eulerscheZahl: dready did the binary tasks
eulerscheZahl: that is: you have an executable file and have to figure out what that program does
MSmits: yeah he can do that kind of magical stuff
eulerscheZahl: that's why I asked him
Astrobytes: zeno on crypto/linux duty?
TheBlueBias: :(
eulerscheZahl: zeno was busy with work and didn't even tell us where he is until after the event :(
Astrobytes: ah OK
eulerscheZahl: eulerscheZahl — 10/18/2021
I was hoping for a more interesting story 😞
trapped in an elevator maybe. or on an escalator
MSmits: he was in hiding?
Astrobytes: TheBlueBias: what were you specialising in?
Westicles: zeno has been hiding from the french
TheBlueBias: Psychological support
MSmits: Trolling other teams?
Astrobytes: lol
Scarfield: "support"
eulerscheZahl: that's forbidden
MSmits: TheBlueBias is skilled, he knows where the line is
eulerscheZahl: zeno nominated Blaise btw
TheBlueBias: Oh?
Astrobytes: yeah I know
eulerscheZahl: Blaise or Westicles were his suggestions. One of them was online at the time, the other wasn't. on a coinflip
jacek: huh
jacek: is GA without crossover just some hill climbing?
eulerscheZahl: a few parallel hillclimbings I would say
Scarfield: GA without crossover would be MA
jacek: Meh Algorithm?
Scarfield: Mutation Algo
Scarfield: you could also have a mix of both and get MAGA
azis_i_vanko1: hello guys
elisaado: hey goys
Uljahn: also looks like MC beam search
JacobTheCoder: i got my script done im just trying to put it in a "loadstring" but it isnt working...
JacobTheCoder: any idea on how i can fix that?
KayKay1202: hi
JacobTheCoder: hello
JacobTheCoder: ima go watch a tutorial hold on
KayKay1202: pls follow me
JacobTheCoder: why
KayKay1202: so i can challenge you on clash of code
JacobTheCoder: what type of code?
KayKay1202: and to makw friends
JacobTheCoder: im in class and im about to switch so illl follow you and msg you when im back on (i have a sub in math anyways)
KayKay1202: same
KayKay1202: i am at school
JacobTheCoder: yeah got all my work done so i figured "lets try to make my script a loadstring"
KayKay1202: my teacher has no clue
JacobTheCoder: but that didnt go as lanned
JacobTheCoder: go to dm
zeplul: put code in pastebin and copy paste link into loadstring template
zeplul: raw link*
KayKay1202: what is dm
JacobTheCoder: i msged you
JacobTheCoder: also thanks zep
AntiSquid: hahah Scarfield
AntiSquid: i prefer the Let's Go Automaton2000 algo
JacobTheCoder: hi squid
Automaton2000: are you looking for a way to make a game for cg ?
AntiSquid: no, i am not a squid :'(
AntiSquid: i always drive safely
AntiSquid: what's up JacobGreenslade
AntiSquid: JacobTheCoder
Scarfield: yea its a great algo, the best, many coders use it
JacobTheCoder: "JacobGreenSlade" - AniSquid 10/21/2021 02:08PM
jacek: no more loa talks eh?
AntiSquid: JacobTheCoder i used tab complete, maybe it would help you write my name :P
JacobTheCoder: oh it was no big deal jus the perfect time to quote someone :)
AntiSquid: wrote Jaco->Tab and got that, too many jacobs in chat, maybe you should clash to see who keeps the name
JacobTheCoder: im probably gonna change it to my YT
JacobTheCoder: but idk cause i dont do coding videos
JacobTheCoder: and its pretty cringy
KayKay1202: Hey
AntiSquid: now you can link your twitch coding stream and stream on youtube too ! the future is here
USSR_Chicken: and im waiting for the cringe comments about my name XD
USSR_Chicken: im probably gonna change it back
Seito_Shinkiel: can we not see the right answer for a clash ? it's frustrating
eulerscheZahl: a reverse task?
USSR_Chicken: i hate it when im doing clash and i just see the code
USSR_Chicken: just make me wanna
Seito_Shinkiel: I mean , can we see the answer, if we don't find the right solution for a problem ?
USSR_Chicken: i can
USSR_Chicken: sometimes atleast
eulerscheZahl: only if the other players decide to share their code
eulerscheZahl: if it's reverse and you can't figure out the task, search here: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
jacek: shameless advertising
Hidatara: can we see opponent answer for clash? idk about mine,just wanna know how that madafaka can fix the code XD
Mesmerize: A lot of the puzzles seem to have changed names - how come?
Wontonimo: lawyers
Mesmerize: or changed graphics
Mesmerize: I see
Wontonimo: lawyers part 2
jacek: should make puzzle about blood sucking lawyers
Wontonimo: or fear of lawyers
Wontonimo: may not have been lawyers. may have been management afraid of lawsuits
Wontonimo: I had a boss once who would regularly tell the law department at work to go suck it and not do what they said
Wontonimo: his response to me was that their job is to advise, not dictate. And lawyers don't particularly make good business decisions, if they did we'd see more Lawyer CEOs
USSR_Chicken: hi Wontonimo
USSR_Chicken: very interesting
Wontonimo: hey JacobTheCoder :wave:
USSR_Chicken: i got my friend to help me out and i made my own mod menu for multiple games like gta, firtnite and all those
USSR_Chicken: fortnite*
USSR_Chicken: im working on one for minecraft and roblox
USSR_Chicken: but yeah
SandmanSW96: heya kylaro
TheBlueBias: Enter sandman.
bearnilu: hello
vedantiscool2010: hi
tobk: What happened with some of the Covers? Did CG get a cease&desist from Disney?
Astrobytes: Pre-emptive I think, due to growing as a company and being taken over
Rick-o-matic: I guys I am really new to this - I am on Cosers strikes back and my code is valid but it just goes to dust immediately, any idea why?
jacek: is it that destrinationY and destinationY?
Rick-o-matic: no, im past that, it's the angle part
Astrobytes: what happens?
Astrobytes: Pod doesn't move... goes the wrong waY?
Astrobytes: *way
Rick-o-matic: I think it the way I am using else
Astrobytes: you can paste your code here
Rick-o-matic: what was happening was the game just stopped in a dust storm
derjack: and what exactly is that "coders strike back" you speak of?
jacek: so you program crashed?
Astrobytes: derjack: get back in the jacek box
Rick-o-matic: mate, I am a total beginner
jacek: do you have any errors under the viewer?
Astrobytes: Seems like it crashed.
Rick-o-matic: CS8641: 'else' cannot start a statement.
Astrobytes: just paste your code in here (in chat)
jacek: so program didnt even compile
Astrobytes: (It will pastebin automatically)
Rick-o-matic: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3c90bd28-36cb-4c36-9601-f4c92d6a9fdb
Astrobytes: you missed a }
Astrobytes: before the else
Rick-o-matic: ah
Rick-o-matic: but I don't need one before the IF?
Astrobytes: can you post all the code please? It's not possible to see your nested braces
jacek: you just have more { than }
Rick-o-matic: Bear with me, it looks like a three year old has been at it with a crayon...
Rick-o-matic: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/89f00696-461b-4c8f-835e-511207557c49
Astrobytes: 1. You don't need { and } around your print to stderr
Astrobytes: 2. Fix that brace I told you about
Astrobytes: 3. Print your actual output to stdout not stderr
Astrobytes: (point 1: your first print)
Astrobytes: 4. remove that brace on line 37
Astrobytes: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5a0b73f9-c3e0-4e36-a942-a2d0e45b873a
Astrobytes: 5. There is a semicolon after your initial if condition. Remove that
Rick-o-matic: I'm getting a timeout
Rick-o-matic: still getting the crash :D
Rick-o-matic: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ec509a0f-0e54-4600-8d35-cc4a353bd806
Rick-o-matic: If think that is cleaner
Astrobytes: See my earlier point 3
Astrobytes: change to Console.WriteLine for the outputs within your if-else clauses
Astrobytes: Right now you are only printing to stderr
Rick-o-matic: ahhh
Astrobytes: and you still have an extra }
Astrobytes: Oh wait, no you don't, just poor indentation ;)
Rick-o-matic: Maybe I should take indentation classes :D
Astrobytes: lol, if you're using this style just get each closing brace to align with the opening brace, pay attention to the IDE
Rick-o-matic: It is weird, I write these codes, it crashes loads then I get promoted to the next league...
Astrobytes: Does it work now?
Rick-o-matic: yeah it runs
Rick-o-matic: I refreshed the browser
Rick-o-matic: Thanks btw
Astrobytes: np
Astrobytes: Now you know the kind of things to look out for and be careful of
jzen: Is there any way to modify contributions post-approval?
Moncef_dev:
Astrobytes: TheBlueBias: Sent you a Sabbath concert on discord
passionismymiddlename: I dont understand this am too dumb
passionismymiddlename: I NEED SOMETHING EASY
Astrobytes: Stop shouting ffs
Astrobytes: What are you trying to do?
passionismymiddlename: am trying to be good at python
passionismymiddlename: but am failing
Astrobytes: which puzzle are you doing, and are you competent in basic python?
Rick-o-matic: Maybe a stupid question here... but where would I go to become competent at basic c#...
passionisNOTmymiddlename: am doing "easy" puzzles like pedestrain traffic and i have no expirience in python
Rick-o-matic: I thought I would start here, but it seeming a little of a stretch for my grey matter
Astrobytes: passionismymiddlename: here they assume basic working knowledge of at least one language, basic logic etc
Astrobytes: It's more for building on what you know
Astrobytes: Rick-o-matic: same as above
passionisNOTmymiddlename: uh huh but is there anything that can support starting
passionisNOTmymiddlename: out
Astrobytes: passionismymiddlename: are you experienced in any other language other than python? If not, it's best to learn elsewhere, this site will not teach you any language.
It will force you to learn more about your given language and focuses more on algorithms
passionisNOTmymiddlename: No but maybe i can just watch some indian tutrorials
passionisNOTmymiddlename: and then i can build off of that i will see what i can do
Astrobytes: Again, this is not the site to learn your first language. But if you want to learn at the same time elsewhere and practice here then feel free :)
passionisNOTmymiddlename: ok 4 hours is waaaaayyyyy too long
passionisNOTmymiddlename: whatever
passionisNOTmymiddlename: thanks for the words and advice
passionisNOTmymiddlename: i have already learnt basic stuff in 2 minutes yay
Astrobytes: ...
MeBen: ...
redrhyno: ,,,
Gabbek: Good evening, Astrobytes!
passionisNOTmymiddlename: :_[
Gabbek: passionismymiddlename - if you want to learn more about python I would suggest one of the websites that's focused on the language teaching, for example: jetbrains academy
TheBlueBias: Thanks Astrobytes. I'll take a look tomorrow, time to sleep a little for now. ^^
TheBlueBias: GN
Gabbek: good night
Astrobytes: gn TheBlueBias
Porsuk: does anyone know the last requirement of coding speed tree?
Wontonimo: go fast. sonic fast
LelouchVC2: my code is already going the speed of light
Wontonimo: literally
Wontonimo: Porsuk, what tree is that? There isn't one called "coding speed"
Thorcode: it is speed tree
Thorcode: not coding speed Wontonimo
rizonbro: hi
rizonbro: I am back
Arces: hello
TechnoBot: Hello.
bingler: my name is sam the samba man and I live in samba land. catch me if you can!!!
Leejuwoo: help
TechnoBot: hi
Leejuwoo: I can't solve the 'war' last problem PAT of the coding game.
TechnoBot: srry
TechnoBot: i didn't do that either
TechnoBot: i didnt solve it i mean
MeBen: y'all sometimes hope you get beat in clash because you feel like there's a clever solution you can't find?
