someone-owo: aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
someone-owo: :grimacing:
pang1217: hi
Shizo: peter griffin funny moments
RalseiOwO: owo
derjack: uwu
Passifi: mind your spelling people the Oxford dictionary says it's: OwO big O notation :P
magaiti: '(OvO)'
Abduljabar: Hello
Abduljabar: Im very famous player
Abduljabar: i have 5 mvp
Abduljabar: :japanese_ogre:
Abduljabar: were are you from
Abduljabar: :ok_hand_tone5::punch_tone1:
Abduljabar: šalam akarabam
Abduljabar: :white_circle:
Abduljabar: why no answer
AntiSquid: desperate for attention ?
Abduljabar: HELOOOOO?
AntiSquid: ya no spam
derjack: oh, kovi in w1 chess :tada:
kovi: hardest promote ever vs. boss so high above anybody else
Turtho: hey, i have a question, if i want to keep and update a variable from one run to another, how do i do it ? can i use external files as input for example ?
derjack: no, you cant save anything here
Turtho: ah.. so i were to do a monte carlo tree search it would start for the beginning each time, ie it would suck ?
AntiSquid: if it would suck you could make money ... :thinking:
derjack: by each run, you mean each submit or each iteration per loop?
Turtho: clever...
each submit
AntiSquid: you can't store extra files, so you train offline and then paste whatever you can into the IDE
Turtho: it would be random everytime no ?
Turtho: oh ok thanks
derjack: everyone starts from scratch
derjack: and what you would store between each run?
Turtho: the values of the nodes (number of wins and number of uses)
derjack: this only would be slightly useful in the beginning of game.
Turtho: ok thanks for the help
AntiSquid: are you sure Jack ? he could have basically an opening book with that, how is it only slightly useful? :P
derjack: useless for random openings games
Manchi_o6o7: If someone could help me out why scanf isn't been executed
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/adb2af02-9346-496b-96bd-2d817450fea2
DaNinja: suma(niz,n) recurses forever
Manchi_o6o7: but it doesn't allows me to input n, when I start the program it ends
DaNinja: which puzzle?
Manchi_o6o7: my code
Manchi_o6o7: it isn't connected with a certain puzzle
DaNinja: you are running it locally?
Manchi_o6o7: yes
darkhorse64: Your code bombs before reaching print
Manchi_o6o7: yea, but it doesn't allow me to input n
Manchi_o6o7: it excetues
DaNinja: n is undefined at when you declare int n,niz[n];
DaNinja: doesnt compile
darkhorse64: ^
Manchi_o6o7: DaNjina thanks, it solved
DaNinja: np
Manchi_o6o7: the code should sum the numbers of an array recursively
Manchi_o6o7: what it the correct recursive formula
darkhorse64: Using recursion to sum an array is strange: use a loop
DaNinja: yep, shouldnt use recursion for that
DaNinja: but try return niz[n-1] + suma(niz,n-1);
Manchi_o6o7: what is the best way to understand recursion, to visualize it
BlaiseEbuth: int recursion(){return recursion();}
DaNinja: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/717725/understanding-recursion
derjack: to understand recursion first you must understand recursion
MonteKrysto: lol
AntiSquid: where is recursion useful on CG ?
AntiSquid: in non-functional languages
derjack: minimax :?
DaNinja: backtracking puzzles like the Bridge?
AntiSquid: and how is it faster than iteration
BlaiseEbuth: Oo
AntiSquid: UwU it's not the fastest, just looks more interesting
darkhorse64: If you do not care about performance, it's easier to write a minimax in a recursive manner
darkhorse64: backtracking is also a good example
Chris_Obi: fy
Chris_Obi: yffy
Chris_Obi: fyg
Chris_Obi: gf
Chris_Obi: fy
Chris_Obi: gy
Chris_Obi: g
AntiSquid: Chris_Obi ?
Chris_Obi: yes
Chris_Obi: whatsup
Chris_Obi: ???
Chris_Obi: ???
Chris_Obi: ???
derjack: recursion cost is negligible in minimax
Chris_Obi: AntiSquid du huan
MassiveShoeEater_535f: sewas chis du motherfucker
Chris_Obi: i werd da glei dei maul zuastopfn du idiot
MassiveShoeEater_535f: sewas andi du orschloch
Chris_Obi: warum is do unt so aufgrissn?
MassiveShoeEater_535f: Rectangle Partition is so schwirig
MassiveShoeEater_535f: wei in zaht hobn
Chris_Obi: du idiot
Chris_Obi: kathi
MassiveShoeEater_535f: wer hiot do alles asngspritz
DaNinja: stop that
Chris_Obi: maxl for live
MassiveShoeEater_535f: du idiot i bin frisch tätowiert
Chris_Obi: wo is saufn
MassiveShoeEater_535f: why we shoudstopp taht
Chris_Obi: du homo
MassiveShoeEater_535f: oida i bin vo da schule sack
AntiSquid: can't even write properly in german why write at all ?
derjack: to scare peopole
derjack: poles even
AntiSquid: it's some hill-billy dialect from the mountains they write in btw
TheFlashLady_6b91: he oida wows los du kollege
AntiSquid: good grief
derjack: oO
AntiSquid: he said what's up colleague, but with really fucked up spelling
AntiSquid: now DM with more of that crap
AntiSquid: world -> english only please
KelvinAndHubbles: Whats the fastest 100% clash submission time?
DaNinja: about tree fiddy
ANONYMOUS42: damn loch ness monster playing CoC
MadKnight: KelvinAndHubbles some bots can submit known solution in seconds
Manchi_o6o7:
can you help me with a task. to calculate the sum recursively of two vectors with the prototype
void saberi(double *vektor_a, double *vektor_b, double *vektor_rez, int n)
TFeld: KelvinAndHubbles, mine is about 20-30 seconds
TFeld: I might have some <20s i think
ill-be-waiting-outside: hey
ANONYMOUS42: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/62ce0a02-9d75-43cf-a8ad-6f3f9acb0970
synchoz: how do u even get close to under <60s in CoC 0_o
amiraliii: hi
amiraliii: I am new to C ++, what should I do now ?? Can anyone help me?
ANONYMOUS42: you can go have ice cream maybe?
Tuo: its cold outside so hot chocolate is better
NguyenDuyAn: im so gay
ANONYMOUS42: hey so gay i'm dad
NguyenDuyAn: omg
NguyenDuyAn: XD
NguyenDuyAn: i love this website
derjack: sometimes you dont need to read the statement fully and code right away, hence <20s
NguyenDuyAn: its like social media for nerds
derjack: irc?
Passifi: is irc still a thing ? and social media for nerds would be stack overflow minus the social aspect :P
derjack: irc still a thing? kids these days...
Passifi: if I was a kid of these days I wouldn't know about irc :P
Passifi: you still using ICQ too, derJack ? ;)
derjack: i am antisocial, so no
ANONYMOUS42: what's irc
derjack: better complain about it in myspace
Passifi: irc is a place to hang out idly without ever saying a thing. its the best alternative to a chatroom
synchoz: derjack still some times i need to think of how to approach the problem XD
ChloelaBoss: Hiiiiiiiiiii whats up
-oa-: HI! Working on a bot(:
derjack: bot? game?
-oa-: For legends of code and magic:) Still in silver though
AlinHero: Hi Guys
AlinHero: who's good at react?
KelvinAndHubbles: atleast for the CoC thing, some problems are literally like "output square of input" or something that I can get like sub 10 seconds on
orangesnowfox: Yeah, I ran into that one a week or two ago
JLukeSkywalker: please downvote those so they get removed
JLukeSkywalker: unless they have some unique spin on them
orangesnowfox: ig, I assume they were approved for a reason though. The one I actually ran into was a *bit* more complex than x^2, and it was a code golf, so I found it interesting enough
JLukeSkywalker: thats what I meant by unique spin
JLukeSkywalker: but I have defenitely seen some where it is just square or even multiply by 2
JLukeSkywalker: and you would be surprised what gets approved
JLukeSkywalker: ran into one yesterday that had a completely broken stub
orangesnowfox: mm, I don't clash that much, honestly, I mostly code bots right now. Only doing a clash or two once in a while
orangesnowfox: Working on GiTC right now, but I've been working on others too
KelvinAndHubbles: hate the reverses that kept approved with missing testcases. Have had multiple where you get like 1 input and 2 output out of 7 cases and they aren't even for the same case
orangesnowfox: ...
Sakisan: that sounds more like the site is experiencing issues. No challenge would be admitted like that
orangesnowfox: They're community approved iirc
JLukeSkywalker: people approve them all the time
orangesnowfox: At least in part
orangesnowfox: I've seen some stuff over the past 4 years :p
JLukeSkywalker: if enough people downvote and report in the post-game screen, the bot will remove them
Astrobytes: Actually there is a technical issue with reverse mode CoCs not showing testcases currently.
Astrobytes: (there are poor quality CoCs too)
orangesnowfox: Oh, hey astro
Astrobytes: hey :)
derjack: AutomatonNN where is Him?
AutomatonNN: why do you even know what it is to tell the same problem
Tuo: FINALY clobbersan is down!
Tuo: Days of coding
Astrobytes: good job Tuo!
wlesavo: finally rewrited bnc in C++, i guess now i just have to do space maze
AntiSquid: sorry, what is bnc? ring a bell
AntiSquid: rings *
Astrobytes: bulls n cows optim
AntiSquid: really???
AntiSquid: isnt it some algo?
orangesnowfox: Is there an algo? I use bruteforce and resubmit when it times out :v
AntiSquid: quite sure i saw the acronym somewher related to some algo
orangesnowfox: oh, bnc algo
orangesnowfox: hmm, not sure
Astrobytes: Bayesian Network Classifier?
eulerscheZahl: Astrobytes you changed your avatar :(
eulerscheZahl: now I had to read the name to realize it's you
AntiSquid: Structure learning for Bayesian networks classifier is NP-hard problem, K2 algorithm is one of efficacious and accurate algorithm
AntiSquid: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241147333_BNC_Structure_Learning_G2_Algorithm_based_Heuristic
Astrobytes: eulerscheZahl: Scarfield provided a hi-res version with the piano
Astrobytes: It was rude not to change it
eulerscheZahl: it was rude to do it
Astrobytes: lol
Scarfield: what a dilemma :p
Scarfield: you provided the link with the high res picture euler, you have yourself to blame :p
eulerscheZahl: i didn't even know what it was about
eulerscheZahl: just saw you posting an astrobytes profile pic without any context
eulerscheZahl: didn't even realize it was modified
Scarfield: yes, my art is subtle
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Scarfield: just as with the squids avatar, you hardly notice the change
eulerscheZahl: wait, are you responsible for the zarthaxx change too?
Scarfield: :smirk:
AntiSquid: https://wifflegif.com/gifs/297755-grumpy-cat-hypnotoad-gif
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: hahaha excellent
derjack: and change for my avatar too?
derjack: ops wrong account
jacek: .
Scarfield: have been thinking chessCek avatar was missing a unicorn horn :p
jacek: thats earth pony, they dont have horns
jacek: educate yourself on equestria plz
Astrobytes: ...
Scarfield: I thought the were small unicorns, you learn something every day
Scarfield: they *
jacek: there are earth ponies, pegasi and unicorns. and very rare alicorns
jacek: im so good at bt i lose points when i win :(
struct: fix it
kovi: dont resubmit, it seems I slowly ascended to precious 5th place
kovi: wow, tryangle w1 league is alive
jacek: its almost as it were a contest
AntiSquid: are people getting more active in multis now?
jacek: yeah, where are those coc links? :(
KelvinAndHubbles: is there a constant lap count for CSB?
AntiSquid: 3 ?
struct: yes its 3
ValplOU: Hello
Kitkat260: hi
ValplOU: hom are you ??
ValplOU: How*
jacek: hmm in clobber 1st player has advantage :?
darkhorse64: MSmits meta MCTS says no
KelvinAndHubbles: thats wacked, I just versed a bot in CoK that I thought was very familar and then realized it was my old account from many long years ago that I can't find the email it belongs too :/
YurkovAS: darkhorse64 in bandas you has game specific bonuses/penalties?
jacek: darkhorse64 first move maybe no, but overall game yes. at least i think so far with my mcts games
MSmits: jacek, that should show up on my meta mcts
MSmits: it plays full games
darkhorse64: I have no heuristics for bandas. It looks like having pawns in the center is good but I have not found a metric for that
MSmits: but your bot may be different
MSmits: I only went to 90k games though, but just for determining p1 advantage in my bots case, that should be plenty
MSmits: darkhorse64 same, i have tried a few heuristics, but they were no good
jacek: :c
MSmits: all 1st moves converged on 50% as far as i could tell
MSmits: for clobber
MSmits: could just be a sign my bot is not that great
MSmits: anyway, i'm taking a nap, was just saying hi :P
Scarfield: gn(ap)
MSmits: thanks :P
jacek: bye grampa
MSmits: yep us old people need naps between yelling at clouds
pardouin: for bandas maybe you can calculate the average distance from center
pardouin: and maybe weight it somehow, like square it or something
wouter173: :grin:
jacek: or let the NN figure it out
pardouin: ahah
YurkovAS: pardouin thanks. i'm checked this feature without success. can't find any improvements, only performance helped a bit.
Manchi_o6o7: Can someone help me with some C code.
jacek: stupid clobber. turned out i had 'reversed' internal board representation
jacek: it didnt matter when i used vanilla mcts. but when i added piece square tables then the eval became whacked
jacek: i had to do my usual board parsing and move formatting brute force until i get it right
thacuber: what
jacek: Astrobytes you were right, looking at neighbours does help
jacek: why so low kovi
Manchi_o6o7: if someone can help me out why it doesn't prints me out the "parni" function
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d30bb20f-59c7-429c-b9f9-2ef6049a6fd4
JLukeSkywalker: is it printing anything?
Manchi_o6o7: it prints blank
JLukeSkywalker: your seond for loop in your function is never running it looks like
JLukeSkywalker: the variables you passed make it start and end at 0
JLukeSkywalker: maybe try printing them in your first for loop to make sure they are getting set
kovi: was a bugged submit jacek
jacek: :thinking:
Astrobytes: sorry for the late reply jacek, but yes it does
blobonmyknob: these r to hard for begginer python code clash
blobonmyknob: ive only solved 1 so far
Astrobytes: Obvious troll is obvious.
leojean890: clobber is not very hard, I should migrate to C++ ;P
Astrobytes: :D
leojean890: I did that for othello and oware that are not very hard but harder than clobber
leojean890: and B&C2
Astrobytes: I still have to do B&C2
leojean890: not the worst^^
leojean890: sometimes I also use go
leojean890: (FC2020, 2048)
Astrobytes: Go is nice, I've played with it a bit
Astrobytes: I'm not 100% happy with its string manipulation but other than that I quite like it
Astrobytes: (possibly just personal preference)
leojean890: connect 4 is not hard to migrate either
leojean890: go is easier than C++ yes :)
leojean890: faster than python:p
Astrobytes: Yes indeed. And easy to get something working quickly.
leojean890: about strings it's not the most user friendly, yeah
leojean890: indeed
leojean890: my first go program was FC2020
leojean890: just I told me, let's migrate this python in go even if I never used go before;)
leojean890: even during a contest
Astrobytes: Yeah, I first seriously used it for I think Zenoscav e's Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe pi algo puzzle
Astrobytes: Just to challenge myself a bit
leojean890: ow new contrib multi by euler
Astrobytes: Yeah, the dice one
leojean890: didn't do this puzzle
Astrobytes: Oh it's a nice one
leojean890: Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe
Astrobytes: Yep
leojean890: (for the moment)
Astrobytes: When you finish it, check out Zeno's solution: it's so elegant
leojean890: anyway I did something for nine men's morris but it's still not validated
leojean890: only EricSMSO and me accepted^^
leojean890: seems like to be a nice game
leojean890: Night of war is not WIP anymore as well but didn't code something yet
leojean890: ok I'll check his solution
leojean890: after
Astrobytes: It's a python solution and made me feel ashamed :D
leojean890: concise I suppose^^
Astrobytes: Yes, Nine Men's Morris I still have to code for, it seems fine on testing but no bot yet. I worry a little about Night of War because we try to test games really thoroughly for imbalances etc now, and it's apparently an original game (not a port of an existing one) so it's tough. It seems fun though.
leojean890: we've almost the same ELO on cultist-wars by the way xD
leojean890: 26.25 26.22 hmm
Astrobytes: I desperately need to rewrite that bot of mine on Cultist Wars
Astrobytes: I can barely read it
leojean890: Nine Men's Morris seems fine yes ^^
leojean890: ok, Night of War stayed WIP for a long time
leojean890: maybe to balance the game
leojean890: with rules of sell/buy
leojean890: sell enabling to get gold back but less
leojean890: (logical, for this game to be correctly balanced)
leojean890: maybe it's hard to balance it fine
leojean890: same for me, my c-w bot is not easy to read, an if-forest
Astrobytes: I made the fatal mistake of early-optimisation in my Cultist Wars bot, and therefore it has bugs. That I cannot find :D
Astrobytes: re Night of War, yes exactly
Astrobytes: It seems to be OK but we need some heavy testing on it now from good players
leojean890: early-optim ? before there are enough bots ?
Astrobytes: No, almost everything is encoded in uints
Astrobytes: And I have no idea what half of the variables are or mean
leojean890: ok so you did that too early
leojean890: bunch of if or search algo ?
Astrobytes: I had some crappy minimax going iirc
Astrobytes: I will do the same when I rewrite I think.
leojean890: oh ok
leojean890: minmax could reach W1 :)
Astrobytes: Oh and leojean890: regarding your last comment in last night's discussion, Chick Corea does indeed do that. And may he rest in peace. A sad loss this year
Astrobytes: Yes, the reason I am not in W1 is my bugs :D
leojean890: yes, he is great with that. So is Tigran Hamsayan :)
Red64: why do console errors look different then what I see on powershell? are error messages not universal?
leojean890: the reason I am not in W1 is my unoptimal algo:p
Astrobytes: Yes Tigran is amazing!
leojean890: yeah too bad chick died :s
leojean890: yes, he does very complex stuff
Astrobytes: Always been a big fan (guitar-wise) of Al Di Meola, and I can't mention him without Paco de Lucia
Astrobytes: Not quite the same thing, but man, such music
leojean890: and rdrigo and gabriela
leojean890: rodrigo
Astrobytes: yay rodrigo y gabriela!
leojean890: django reinhardt
leojean890: ;)
leojean890: not the same style but like it as much:)
Astrobytes: Yes yes yes. I remember when they were just random people spreading on the grapevine before real internet videos became a thing
Astrobytes: Ohhhhh Django 100000000%
leojean890: yes it was hard for musicians to be known ^^and it is still but it's different using the web;)
Astrobytes: And I have to throw Stephane Grappelli in there too because the work they did together was incredible
leojean890: indeed!
leojean890: do you play this style using guitar ?^^
Astrobytes: Hey, if you explore some more of what Jerry Garcia did (some stuff I linked you yesterday) you will hear a django and perhaps coltrane influence, amongst others
Astrobytes: leojean890: I wish. I can pretend a bit
leojean890: coltrane, nice^^
leojean890: I like monk as well
leojean890: monk is very unique^^
Astrobytes: Yes 100%!
Astrobytes: I love most players that experimented or played any kind of bop or went on to fusion
leojean890: I can't play this style with guitar except improv
leojean890: but didn't work rhythmic
Astrobytes: The rhythm is HARD
leojean890: (I began with classical guitar)
leojean890: so it was easier to do solos than rhythmic
Astrobytes: I'm self taught
leojean890: and I specialized in solos with guitar
leojean890: and bands with piano
Astrobytes: And it took some time
leojean890: bop, fusion, good yes:)
leojean890: my band with who we play polymetrics is mostly fusion
Astrobytes: The trick on guitar is that to play the correct (or good sounding) comping you need to A. Know the melody inside out B. Know every damn inversion there is of every damn chord. C. Know the notes to NOT play.
struct: cuda drivers coming to wsl
leojean890: I have an interesting video to show you but the other guy put it private, so another day when he will change its status, I asked him^^
leojean890: need the melody to better understand chords ?
Astrobytes: Ah hey struct, sorry, me and leojean890 have derailed the chat into music related stuff. I blame myself. It's not the first time :)
leojean890: oh yes, like tritonic substitution
struct: its fine lol
struct: I just saw that cuda will be available soon
struct: and decided to share
Astrobytes: and that *is* cool
leojean890: but I can do that on piano, my difficulty on guitar is rhythmic because I didn't train
leojean890: what notes to play and not to play, indeed^^but you can play every notes on every chord:p
leojean890: chromatisms:p
Astrobytes: Not just with tritones and such leojean890, but knowing how to 'stay out of the way' on guitar is really important unless you are leading
leojean890: E G F# F C# E D# D
leojean890: E G Bb G G# A
leojean890: C# E G F# E F
Astrobytes: ofc, chromaticism. There is no wrong note. "What do you mean I played the wrong note? I was increasing the tension with my chromatic run" :D
leojean890: oh other ways to substitute I see
leojean890: yeah and bebop scales:p
Astrobytes: Back to rhythm guitar, you need to remember the part of the sonic spectrum you're in
leojean890: like I was writing at 1h37
leojean890: to turn around a main note to finally end on it
leojean890: I have to learn how to use a mediator as well
leojean890: I use fingers and low volume^^
Astrobytes: From my limited French I believe you mean a plectrum?
leojean890: (I wrote notes sequences, not chords)
leojean890: yeah plectrum
Astrobytes: Fingers are fine, if you are happy with using fingers only, then do that
Astrobytes: If you need to amplify it, amplify it, don't change what you do just for volume
Astrobytes: They're two completely different ways of working. My fingerstyle is nowhere near as good as my ability with a plectrum
Astrobytes: I can strum well with either but I'll use a plectrum mostly, sometimes some hyprid picking
Astrobytes: *hybrid
leojean890: but plectrum is better to have precise sounds
leojean890: for example, rock sounds
Astrobytes: Not if you have good nails and know how to use them!
leojean890: yes, electroacoustic to amplify
leojean890: it's the contrary, have more experience with fingers^^
leojean890: I don't have nails^^
leojean890: play with fingers only xD
Astrobytes: Ah, nails help.
Astrobytes: I play banjo too so it helps to grow them on a few fingers.
I have neglected it recently though.
leojean890: yes to produce huger volume
leojean890: I should try banjo^^
leojean890: have a ukulele as well:P
leojean890: 2 guitars, 1 keyboard and a grand piano
leojean890: you favored the guitar ?
Astrobytes: It's a cool instrument. I have a 5-string without a resonator, sometimes I use the metal fingerpicks for bluegrass or loud Celtic songs, otherwise I use my thumb and fingers for a clawhammer style
Astrobytes: I also have my mandolin, but it needs repaired :(
Astrobytes: And yeah, I was into guitar before banjo or mandolin, I bought a bass guitar after both of those though.
Astrobytes: I wish I had an upright and a grand piano.
leojean890: I see
leojean890: I tried a mandolin once but don't have one
leojean890: it's a way to change a little, at least the sound
leojean890: guitar => bass, banjo, mandolin, uku..
leojean890: same for me, I played a little the bass aster
leojean890: after
Astrobytes: Yeah, it's different techniques etc
leojean890: and sound
Astrobytes: Of course, yes
leojean890: it's interesting to try this variation
leojean890: I also have an ancient guitar
leojean890: (< 1900)
leojean890: with 4 strings
Astrobytes: Oh wow. Do you play or have you ever played it?
leojean890: never built again now
leojean890: yes my grandpa had it :P
leojean890: now I have it^^
Astrobytes: Fantastic. Keep it in the best condition you can. These instruments matter!
leojean890: I encounter difficulties to get strings to be accurate^^
Astrobytes: Might be worth getting it set up by someone experienced in vintage instruments
Astrobytes: I only know 2 people (one tiny company) in London. There must be people over there that could do this.
leojean890: yes
leojean890: in Paris I think that there are :)
Astrobytes: It's not quite as simple as a quick turn of the truss rod with older instruments
leojean890: some
leojean890: of them
leojean890: yes..:s
Astrobytes: Anyway. I'll see you later, going to bed, bn!
leojean890: gn :)
MadKnight: how do i iterate over all subsets of array a with n elements with subset size=m and with elements order preserved ?
orangesnowfox: ... Maddy, shouldn't you know this by now?
someone-owo: aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
