sashaGrey: hi
jrke: (seed * seed) % 50515093L;
jrke: is this the formula to generate next turn seed for 2048 if yes then why its not working in c++
kovi: 64bit
jrke: so should i make it long long ?
kovi: i use int64_t, but yeah
jrke: oh yes now worked by long long thanks kovi
jrke: https://pastebin.com/Lj98xQ3E
jrke: anybody ^^
_Nilu_: !faq
PatrickMcGinnisII: i use a flat array jrke
jrke: btw i got error it was division by zero
Pengu.: lass mal btw spielen btw
Pengu.: btw
AntiSquid: #de Pengu.
Pengu.: btw
AntiSquid: you continue and you get banned for spamming @_@
jacek: such commitment
Q12: Is storing a lot of data can make the run time of the program longer?
Zuusn: yes
Zuusn: it can depend on how you store it aswell
Q12: Ok thanks, that what I thought
geppoz: x%1 = ?
geppoz: this operation make sense?
jacek: itll always be 0
LegendaryStone: occanowey do you think you can share your code please? or Shahrourit
Q12: geppoz Yes. Like this: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/46d573e3-559d-4ce9-a96b-90621d7f80b0
LegendaryStone: :( Didn't know how to complete it. I'm fairly new.
Shadowtick: hello
Einwickler: is it me you looking for?
Q12: geppoz The paste bin doesn't work so go to this link:
https://codeshare.io/GAeyQE
occanowey: LegendaryStone I published it.
LegendaryStone: Thank you :)
occanowey: :thumbsup:
Shadowtick: welp imma go make a website
Shadowtick: so brb
Shadowtick: and its gonna be a website about how great this website is or something about this one
MSmits: what is this error:
MSmits: ERROR: ld.so: object 'libstdbuf.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
MSmits: bot performs fine otherwise
JBM: bug on CG side
MSmits: ah ok
Astrobytes: Illedan posted it on discord also
MSmits: I see
dbdr: CG shenanigan :)
MSmits: hey dbdr, i have a question about checkers
MSmits: did you do anything special there, or just a regular negamax with well tuned eval?
dbdr: hm, that's a bit out of my memory
MSmits: ah ok, i was just wondering if you went back after Othello and used some things you learned there
MSmits: I am assuming it is your run of the mill negamax then, because otherwise you would remember
dbdr: did checkers first I think
MSmits: i tried an EPT mcts in checkers, never got a good eval, so I am going back and writing a negamax
MSmits: already got a good sim and stuff
MSmits: I guess it's a better game for minimax style algorithms
MSmits: it's weird though. It's very hard to find a good eval on checkers on google. People are very protective of it
MSmits: was much easier with Othello
MSmits: best i could find was "count your material" and "prefer center pieces"
eulerscheZahl: MSmits you can hover over the score to see the submit date
Dibbla: Guys, sorry to interrupt. Im just promoted from wood boos3, and im eager to know what exactly is the nature of turning in the game
Dibbla: cuz boss3 can speed down immediately after it pass check point in a weird way
apollodor: Hello
Dibbla: Is it possible for us to do so?
apollodor: Could somebody help me understand the Ascii ART?
apollodor: I'm really not sure how to treat this.. not sure how I'm suppose to convert a letter into ASCII art
Uljahn: apollodor: ascii art alphabet is given to you in inputs, your task is to select appropriate parts of those strings and join it together
Uljahn: Dibbla: could you pleas share a replay with such boss's behavior?
jrke: if im not timing out in IDE so can i timeout in submission for optimization game ?
Shadowtick: back
LinhT.Nguyen: nah u cant dont worry
apollodor: @Ulijahn, which one is, T?
LinhT.Nguyen: well maybe u could if the hidden ones take more time
LinhT.Nguyen: it rarely happens tho
LinhT.Nguyen: ive never seen it happen tbh
Uljahn: apollodor: Following lines
Uljahn: apollodor: use hints button on the left
apollodor: :|
apollodor: I've read that once and didn't understood. Now it's clear
apollodor: thank you
LinhT.Nguyen: Hello World
deHllloorW
LinhT.Nguyen: An ElePHPant
AaEeHlnnPPt
LinhT.Nguyen: how to reverse this guys... help
Bob: seems reasonably obvious
Bob: just put your thinking in order :)
LinhT.Nguyen: oh shit alphabet
LinhT.Nguyen: thanks bob
AntiSquid: HoleWod lrl
dbdr: Illedan, did you reach a perfect score?
dbdr: anyone calculated it?
sDCrAZzE: poopy
Einwickler: Can somebody here recommend me some resources for an introduction to genetic algorithm?
Im not new to programming but entirely new to this field. Big thanks in advance
Bob: https://tech.io/playgrounds/334/genetic-algorithms/
Illedan: little higher than this
dbdr: I mean on a single case
Illedan: sure
Illedan: Score: 2817876
Moves: 65488
Einwickler: Love Bob ♥
dbdr: that's perfect?
Illedan: only on perfect spawns
Illedan: Not sure
Illedan: didt calc it
Bob: and Code vs Zombies is typically a good challenge to try out a GA
Einwickler: Do I need to write a simulation for that?
Bob: yes
dbdr: #moves susiciously close to 2^16
kovi: yeah
Einwickler: Alright going to check that out. Thank you very much :)
kovi: need 100+ depth
Bob: being able to simulate the game is the basis of all GA/MC/MM methods
jrke: we can print unlinited no. of moves per turn?
dbdr: yes, depth seems to matter a lot
Shadowtick: hello
dbdr: jrke, basically yes
jrke: oke
kovi: i mean just to be able stuff 60k steps in 600 real step
dbdr: ah
Illedan: For 95% of my score you need at least 43k steps
Illedan: Most testcases stop at this amount
Illedan: because there is a 2 spawning and not a 4
Illedan: Seed 11205586
is the one I shared
MSmits: eulerscheZahl thanks, didnt know that
eulerscheZahl: did you experience any limit of chars printed per turn?
eulerscheZahl: the same way our error stream gets truncated
dbdr: I remember seeing a limit in the SDK
dbdr: might have been in the referee output though
eulerscheZahl: maybe i should just test it
Bob: Einwickler: the good thing about code vs zombies is that - precisely - the game is rather simple to simulate
Bob: and it's solo so you don't need to estimate opponents' moves
eulerscheZahl: i got off my one errors in the zombie game :(
eulerscheZahl: by*
Bob: also, you can get good results with the rather naive eval of just using the actual game score
Einwickler: That sounds perfectly great. I was kinda afraid of the idea to write a simulation for coders strike back because im pretty sure the collision stuff will make me go crazy as my knowledge of programming physics are veery limited. :'D
Bob: indeed :)
dbdr: Illedan, what are you doing, tweaking constants?
dbdr: spm submit?
MSmits: Einwickler copy the referee and then improve the math, no need to understand the physics
Illedan: some constants and some spam
MSmits: math knowledge is enough
Illedan: I get random timeouts :(
Illedan: And sometimes it can't solve the level properly
eulerscheZahl: you told me you are done
Illedan: On 1 level yeah
eulerscheZahl: next time i check you have 1M more
Illedan: xD
Illedan: Nothing better to do before the contest later
Illedan: but now off to make pizza
Illedan: cya later
dbdr: 1M is only 2%
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/uw8337
to me that reads like quitting
Illedan: :D
eulerscheZahl: it's not that 2% improvement
MSmits: sure does
Illedan: You have reached the maximum of submissions in a row. Please try again in a few minutes.
Illedan: Guess I'm stopped
eulerscheZahl: it's the margin of how close you get to the optimum
Illedan: anyway, bye
Einwickler: MSmits are you talking about coders strike back or code vs zombies? What referee do yo mean? I am confused
MSmits: strikes back
MSmits: you dont need to understand the physics
eulerscheZahl: zombies strike back :thinking:
dbdr: right. MSmits, we need the exact value ;)
eulerscheZahl: who will add that game?
MSmits: 50% chance it's you
MSmits: you have like half the optims
eulerscheZahl: my next is probably minesweeper
eulerscheZahl: puzzle, not optim
eulerscheZahl: random testcases (only 1 or 2) and you have to resubmit if you get unlucky
Einwickler: I dont really see any chance for me writing an appropiate simulation without understanding the maths? :thinking: What am I not getting here?
kovi: phew, im reliefed
MSmits: Einwickler the referee is public, you can copy the code to do the simulation
dbdr: burning out kovi?
eulerscheZahl: an optim would be torture for minesweeper
MSmits: then you improve the math that is in there
dbdr: at least you've moved aheda of Marchete now
kovi: going to be a local competition soon
MSmits: physics really does not enter into it
Einwickler: Ahhh now I see where you are going here. Where do I find this reference?
MSmits: someone share the csb referee
MSmits: some people have it on their gith
dbdr: eulerscheZahl, when has torture stopped you? :D
eulerscheZahl: https://github.com/SpiritusSancti5/codinGame/blob/master/Referees/Coders%20Strike%20Back/Referee.java
jrke: is there any hardcoded in 2048 ?
MSmits: ah yeah thats it
eulerscheZahl: i mean i'm fine with torturing myself to code the UI in JS
eulerscheZahl: but i don't want to torture you
kovi: yay
MSmits: just remember, the sim is slow, but can be made faster with some math shortcuts
kovi: but really i cant see the way to reach illedan
eulerscheZahl: ille got the 56M without hardcoding
Einwickler: This is great. Kudos to all of you ♥
eulerscheZahl: you'll also struggle with the code size limit if you want to hardcode 50k moves for each of the 30 validators
MSmits: have fun Einwickler
MSmits: there's also some links on the csb main page
kovi: euler: good point
MSmits: with people sharing their wisdom
JakeCoop: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/141388058ab8893fe707bf31b184aebc588ff46
jacek: oh my
Einwickler: Yea I think I saw these. But a lot ot this stuff is very advanced if Im remembering this right. I really do need to get the basics first. One step at a time :)
dbdr: kovi :D
dbdr: in sync
MSmits: Crazy_Remi is now following you on CodinGame!
kovi: grat
eulerscheZahl: i saw that switch at #2
jacek: hm?
MSmits: your idol is following me jacek :P
eulerscheZahl: did you follow first?
MSmits: I think so
jacek: MSmits is that stalker fan
MSmits: when jacek mentioned him
dbdr: following me too :)
MSmits: well you're his opponent in D&B
dbdr: and I followed him
dbdr: nah, he has no opponent ;)
MSmits: maybe when I'm done with this negamax experimentation
ferdinandkedef: python or c++
jacek: meh when i resubmit i push him up
MSmits: both
jacek: yes
ferdinandkedef: same
dbdr: MSmits, isn't it bad to task switch?
MSmits: not if it keeps you motivated
dbdr: ah, you were getting bored?
MSmits: 2 things, i got a bit bored, but also D&B taught me how to do a proper hash table
MSmits: and that made me want to revisit negamax
Unkmar: I'm not going to try a build a prime generator/filter in 15 minutes.
dbdr: eulerscheZahl, did not stop on 2048?
MSmits: since my checkers bot is so bad, it seems like a good place to get some improvement
Unkmar: I don't care what language I use.
eulerscheZahl: busy with other stuff, didn't really try it myself yet :(
eulerscheZahl: new project at work, less motivation to code at home
eulerscheZahl: which is the same place physically :P
dbdr: didn't do the CGP Grey thing?
eulerscheZahl: the what?
Unkmar: Anyone else get burned out here really fast?
dbdr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck
The_Auditor: @Unkmar yes
jacek: MSmits so now you can invite him to clashes
Unkmar: It was fun for like the first week. And then it is like. Why?
JakeCoop: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1413899b1d138ada5ad541b7ec7a500f5c882dd
jacek: did you try other games? puzzles?
Astrobytes: try something other than clashes Unkmar
MSmits: definitely do that... clashes are boring
MSmits: i dont see how you can get bored after a week, thats like half a bor
MSmits: bot
Hjax: i feel like theres something wrong with the site design, since most new people seem to assume this site is just about clashing
JakeCoop: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1413899b1d138ada5ad541b7ec7a500f5c882dd
Astrobytes: Stop it please JakeCoop, post it in 'clash
Astrobytes: or even #clash
Astrobytes: yeah, I don't get it Hjax
Unkmar: Okay, anyone of you. Try something elsers finished that Batman Warmer, Colder thing?
jacek: either clash or CSB
jacek: batman what?
MSmits: shadows of the knight he means
Astrobytes: You know, the Keeping Batman Warm puzzle
darkhorse64: Shadows of the night 2
MSmits: thats a puzzle Unkmar, try a multiplayer arena
jacek: its binary search [solved]
MSmits: write a bot for one of like 30 arenas
jacek: :newspaper: :soccer:
Unkmar: Not asking for a guide or solution. Just curious if any of you finished it.
eulerscheZahl: more like 50
MSmits: all of us i think Unkmar
Hjax: not me, because i almost never do puzzles
MSmits: Hjax would finish it in 10 minutes
Hjax: would i? it claims to be "very hard"
jacek: his gf is not impressed though
MSmits: it's easy, i had students that solved it
Shadowtick: hello
jacek: ohai
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/shadows-of-the-knight-episode-1
MSmits: says medium
MSmits: episode 2 is very hard apparently
Unkmar: That is episode one. That was easy.
MSmits: never tried that
Hjax: oh yeah i was talking about episode 2
MSmits: ahh did you mean part 2
MSmits: almost noone ever asks about part 2
Unkmar: Episode 2, Not so much. I'm glad others don't smack code walls with it.
darkhorse64: 2 is more difficult but if you watch carefully replays, it gives you hints on how to proceed
jacek: medium? is easy. episode 2 is fun
Unkmar: The first one was easy for me. Sure, you can't just brute force every location. But that was pretty easily assumed anyway.
jacek: tomorrows contest
jacek: maybe youll get more motivation
Yasser: yupi
Astrobytes: that was a random little notification
eulerscheZahl: that gets a ping?
MSmits: is that ice and fire?
eulerscheZahl: unknown, 3 options i think
MSmits: ahh, I am not joining, too much to do
jacek: fantastic bits, tulips and daisies, a code of fire and ice
eulerscheZahl: would be fun if he surprises us with something else
Unkmar: I don't like competing. I actually dislike anything that resembles sports. So, that include programming racing/fighting bots.
MSmits: well the only competing part is the fact that there's a leaderboard.
MSmits: you can just write a good bot and ignore that
MSmits: it's fun to get something that works
Unkmar: So, I'm left with puzzles. And trying to find one that is challenging but not nearly impossible for me is a challenge.
eulerscheZahl: if you choose an old arena, it's playing against some ancient bots anyways
MadKnight: oh, why so, Unkmar ?
MSmits: ohh it's a MadKnight
MadKnight: yea it is
Unkmar: I'm still competitive, I just hate to compete. So, I can't just (ignore that).
eulerscheZahl: that's why i skipped the halite contest
Noisestorm: Do we need to register by the starting hour or even after it started is fine?
eulerscheZahl: 3 months is way to long. had to protect myself
MadKnight: why?
MadKnight: oh
MSmits: like eulerscheZahl said, try an old arena, noone plays there anyway, not for years
MSmits: you'll compete with stale code
MSmits: you'll still see your bot improve and noone will see it
eulerscheZahl: or try to promote to league X
eulerscheZahl: the boss is static
MSmits: right
MSmits: well 99.99% of bots are also :)
MSmits: in an old artena
MSmits: -t
jacek: old arena?
MSmits: like mean max
MSmits: or something
Unkmar: I never finished longest palindrome either.
eulerscheZahl: onitama more than doubled the player count since Monday :tada:
Unkmar: After several DAYS, I just didn't care any more.
MadKnight: yea bots are like passing levels in single player
MSmits: free cp for me :)
jacek: :scream:
MSmits: it's deserved eulerscheZahl, it's really a great game. No cons to it
Unkmar: You see. that is the thing folks. I can usually solve most anything. I just have to dedicate my LIFE to it. Or at least several DAYS of it. Which creates a serious burn out.
MSmits: days, you say?
MSmits: :grin:
MSmits: days...
jacek: amateour
Unkmar: And completing a GAME just isn't rewarding enough. It doesn't save lives. Help the elderly. Help people, make me money or... Well, it feels completely unproductive.
MadKnight: Unkmar there must be something very specific that creates a burn out for u
eulerscheZahl: for the palindrome there's a well known algo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_palindromic_substring
eulerscheZahl: either you have that bit of theoretical background and the puzzle is easy or you'll really struggle to see it
Unkmar: Amateur? I started programming before many of you were even in diapers.
MSmits: he meant amateur for being only obsessed for days
MSmits: I spent months on some games
JBM: what's that to do with anything?
jacek: eeyup
MSmits: even the least obsessive person here, like maybe euler, is still obsessed enough to spend a week on a game
Unkmar: I've spent many months on projects. But I was getting paid for those and they made money for the company. They made the CSR's lives better. I've spent months playing games. That was just fun. But most coding adventures I do for myself are either completed in a week or abandoned.
MadKnight: but completing a GAME is a kind of practice/learning Unkmar
MSmits: Unkmar life itself has no purpose with your definition of it
Unkmar: don't get me wrong. I've already benefited immensely from this site. I've buckled down and learned things that I had put off for years.
Astrobytes: Do something else then Unkmar, doesn't sound like you're enjoying CG
Astrobytes: Or those parts of it at least
MSmits: we're not just here to learn, it's also just fun
Astrobytes: Take a break and change the scenery a bit for a while
MadKnight: u can never be sure that u don't have a ton more stuff to learn, Unkmar
MSmits: I watched the shining for the first time yesterday. At no point did I think: "is this making me money, is anyone's life better for it? "
MadKnight: selfish smitsy
MSmits: :P
jacek: shining?
MSmits: *the* shining
MadKnight: i remember that title
Astrobytes: The Stephen King story
Astrobytes: "Heeeere's Johnny!!!" etc
MSmits: was a bit disappointed, but still worth watching
MSmits: i can see why stephen king hated it though
Astrobytes: Book is orders of magnitude better
Niicide: im so anxious for my sat scores :(
MSmits: never read it, but i can imagine it from watching this movie
Unkmar: yeah, I don't read or watch Stephen King. I saw one of the movies based on one of his books and. Yeah, I don' t like horror stories.
MSmits: i read enough of his books to get the flow of them
MSmits: he doesnt call them horror stories
MSmits: he calls them suspense novels
Astrobytes: He writes quite a narrow range, and has many failings, but I enjoy a lot of them
MSmits: because horror is cheap
MSmits: blood/gore/scares etc.
MSmits: thats not what he is about
MSmits: there's a lot of fantasy/mystery to them
Astrobytes: He's about the thing under your bed that you know isn't real... but you always pull your foot back under the covers anyway: just in case
MSmits: you have that thing too eh?
Astrobytes: (from Nightshift preface iirc)
Hjax: im convinced anyone who can sleep with their feet hanging over the end of the bed is a psychopath :P
Astrobytes: :D
MSmits: good hypothesis
MSmits: lisey's story is the best imho
The_Auditor: past couple of months feel close to horror stories
MSmits: it's a good example of SK books not being horror
MSmits: not quite, anyway
Astrobytes: It's got some horror-ish aspects
Astrobytes: But like psychological not gruesome
MSmits: only for those people directly affected.
MSmits: For the rest it's merely uncomfortable
Dartisan: eulerscheZahl how many players are needed in Onitama for a new bronze League?
jacek: its a paradise for antisocials
MSmits: like, if you lose your job, get sick, lose a family member
Astrobytes: (I mean Lisey's Story btw)
MSmits: ahh ok
jacek: Dartisan there is no bronze in onitama
MSmits: Dartisan the creator of the game decides how many wood leagues there are
MSmits: onitama has 2 i think?
MSmits: or just 1?
MSmits: no it's 2
Dartisan: Ah, good to know, I thought it would be dependent on the number of players.
MSmits: nah. You still get the same amount of cp as a game with the same amount of players and bronze/silver etc. leagues
MSmits: so the fact that it's wood leagues doesnt make it less important score-wise
Hjax: but any game with <500 players wont give the maximum cp
Dartisan: Except for the archivement, to make it in one Gold League ;-) But I see, but there are plenty of Games, Onitama is only one of my favorites, I for sure will invest later more time :-)
MSmits: Hjax true and it's actually worse, because the players that are there are usually harder to beat because you dont get hundreds of weak opponents to easily pass
MSmits: we have some good players here that play every community multi
jacek: :eyes:
eulerscheZahl: (was afk)
only CodinGame can add higher leagues than wood to a game
eulerscheZahl: and so far they've never done it for a community contribution
Dartisan: Ah, good to know. So even not the developper.
eulerscheZahl: illedan wanted that for Bitrunner. Now we have 5 wood leagues :D
Illedan: pff
eulerscheZahl: at some point i tried to add a new league to vindinium. demoted everyone from wood1 to wood2. with a weak boss, making the whole website laggy when everyone promoted :rofl:
Illedan: :P
Dartisan: Always lovely, when you build on community and in the same bloc the community ;-)
Dartisan: Ah yes vindinium I will also later goes back with some new tries.
jacek: mhm
Illedan: nice kovi and dbdr :)
dbdr: almost maching you if we add up our scores :D
eulerscheZahl: still going in parallel :D
Illedan: :D
dbdr: no french in top 10 :O
eulerscheZahl: maybe they are more the multiplayer folks?
dbdr: 4 in top 10 optim
eulerscheZahl: but they are rarely active in community optims
eulerscheZahl: which is why they dropped on the optim leaderboard already
dbdr: yeah
dbdr: Neumann is less active generally, I think
eulerscheZahl: he said he didn't code for half a year. i countered with his recent contest participations :P
dbdr: he did SR though
Illedan: :raised_hands:
eulerscheZahl: the only one I skipped :D
Illedan: :(
eulerscheZahl: my complement
eulerscheZahl: sorry Ille. physics is just not my cup of tea
eulerscheZahl: i'm a square grid player
Illedan: Not octo?
eulerscheZahl: never
dbdr: penguins is hexa
kovi: nice dbdr
kovi: we improve suspiciously in sync
dbdr: yes :D
DomiKo: little sus
eulerscheZahl: https://latin-dictionary.net/search/latin/sus
a pig?
DomiKo: suspicious
YCS-Venom: hmm then who the imposter is? LOL
AntiSquid: good you didn't turn it into a truly cringeworthy acronym like : suspy
domiko
TheRandomGuy: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1413991c8fa801ca0f04616296c2224c06c6b6b
TheRandomGuy: join me
AntiSquid: no
TheRandomGuy: pls
TheRandomGuy: y
AntiSquid: and post them in here #clash
AntiSquid: main chat = no clash links, no nagging to join clash
Shadowtick: ok?
Shadowtick: I will join
TheRandomGuy: are you an admin
Shadowtick: no I meant I am gonna join a clash
Shadowtick: I should really be more specific huh?
Hjax: DarkDev AntiSquid is a chat moderator and he can kick/ban you if you spam chat with clash links
jacek: :scream:
AntiSquid: i am a nice person, will avoid banning
DomiKo: yea
AntiSquid: will join every clash and spam CG multiplayer links instead
Astrobytes: lmao
jacek: very well
jacek: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/onitama
jacek: and you, Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: i mean, you have a high winrate
jacek: eeyup I do
Hjax: automaton speaks the truth
TheRandomGuy: oh sorry squid i did not know i was not allowed to post links
Hjax: you can post links, just not clash links
Hjax: no one wants to see clash links, most people here arent interested
AntiSquid: you can post whatever, but think about the implications and please no nagging
Astrobytes: and you can still ask if anyone wants to clash, just keep the links out of main chat
TheRandomGuy: what is nagging?
Hjax: annoying people by asking them over and over
AntiSquid: "pls pls join, why you don't join"
TheRandomGuy: oh
Astrobytes: ^ asking the same thing repeatedly
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkfFyELXdoM
Astrobytes: ffs :P
jacek: h my
Dartisan: I had to think on this simpsons episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_E0CR01laQ
Astrobytes: Perfect example :D
sunksuperset370: ello'
jacek: good evening
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi0tje6xfWs&ab_channel=BenStovall
jacek: welp https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVwdZ68_700bwp.webp
eulerscheZahl: initially the year started in March...
jacek: uh oh
Astrobytes: eugh, never liked the Smurfs
eulerscheZahl: how about the Flintstones?
Astrobytes: hell yeah
jacek: christmas in flintsones?
eulerscheZahl: i never liked Bob the builder
Astrobytes: And the Jetsons to a lesser extent
eulerscheZahl: and thomas the train
eulerscheZahl: boring
jacek: creepy
Astrobytes: I loved Thomas as a small boy
eulerscheZahl: jetsons: never watched
eulerscheZahl: i don't even have an image in my mind
jacek: stop that pigeon?
Astrobytes: Jetsons was just Flintstones in space, and not as good
Astrobytes: Yeah, Dick Dastardly and Muttley
Astrobytes: epic
Astrobytes: loved Muttley's laugh
jacek: and flintstones in space is stone treck
Astrobytes: think I saw that on yt once
geppoz: I have a bug in my python interpreter???? round(4.5)=4 ??
jacek: oO
geppoz: seems round of .5 decimail is rounded down when the integer part is even??? madness
eulerscheZahl: rounding to even is normal
eulerscheZahl: banker's rounding
geppoz: The round() function rounding strategy and return type have changed. Exact halfway cases are now rounded to the nearest even result instead of away from zero. (For example, round(2.5) now returns 2 rather than 3.)
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even
geppoz: "normal" for who?
eulerscheZahl: though i don't think it's a good idea to change it when it was different before
eulerscheZahl: normal to bankers of course
geppoz: if I heard now for the fisrt time then ofc it is not "normal"
eulerscheZahl: if you always round the same way, you make wins or losses due to rounding
geppoz: programming is for math not for bankers :D
eulerscheZahl: with rounding to even it will cancel out in the long run
geppoz: ok, goodbye python
jacek: euler works for banks. when he rounds profits it is even, when expenses it is odd
geppoz: not serious language :D
jacek: yeah, D is the way
eulerscheZahl: no, i consider banks boring
wouldn't work there
eulerscheZahl: https://dlang.org/library/std/math/round.html
eulerscheZahl: D doesn't like bankers either
Dartisan: on german they call it "Kaufmännisches Runden" ;-)
Hjax: i hadnt actually seen that rounding strategy, but it makes sense to me
jacek: why in german everything sounds like weapon
eulerscheZahl: you speak German?
shouldn't surprise me actually
Astrobytes: SCHMETTERLING!
jacek: :scream:
Dartisan: Yeah, we learn as first language in school.
geppoz: then how to "normal" round in python?
Astrobytes: It might seem aggressive at first listen/look but spoken German sounds wonderful
eulerscheZahl: what a coincidence. my first was German too :D
jacek: int(x+0.5)
eulerscheZahl: what is "normal" rounding supposed to do with negative values?
geppoz: even shorter, nice
eulerscheZahl: golfing?
Hjax: i assume he wants to round away from 0
eulerscheZahl: if golfing:
int(x+.5)
geppoz: uhm no, toward +inf
Hjax: ew
geppoz: so round(-1.5)=-1
geppoz: how about the bankers in this case?
eulerscheZahl: to even
eulerscheZahl: -2
geppoz: -2 since it is even
Hjax: does any languages standard library round towards +inf?
eulerscheZahl: rounding can be quite complicated the more you think about it
eulerscheZahl: but not as ugly as time zones
geppoz: so they are the same for the positive odd and for the negative even :D
geppoz: comic
geppoz: all uses toward +inf IMHO
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY&ab_channel=Computerphile
Dartisan: please no timezones.
Hjax: java supports a bunch of rounding modes, C++ rounds away from zero
jacek: kree java!
Astrobytes: every. single. time. :rolling_eyes:
jacek: nopony got that reference? :(
geppoz: java rounds toward +inf the negatives
geppoz: as javascript
jacek: what is the round o NaN :thinking:
geppoz: NaFN
Hjax: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/math/RoundingMode.html
geppoz: Not a Fractionary Number
geppoz: :D
Dartisan: Thanks for the link, will be forwarded on the next days ;-) Perhaps it would be an inspiration to calculate timezones for clashes ;-)
Astrobytes: "Not a Fractionary Number" I must admit I substituted the F with another word :/
geppoz: well i meant the Math.round
geppoz: the standard method
Hjax: Astrobytes thank goodness im not the only one
Astrobytes: :D
geppoz: about the timezones I always managed to convert in epoch seconds
geppoz: the inputs, so work with that, then convert in other TZ in output
Hjax: theres no sane way to parse time zones
hatf0: there's no sane way to parse
Hjax: because that would require some logic and structure in the design of time zones
Dartisan: It starts mostly already on the paper, when the question is, what time counts, client, company, headquarter or server location ;-)
jacek: meow
Unkmar: Agreed, Tom Scott did a video all about time zones.
Majeck: It was an awesome video
Majeck: Is there anyway to chat with someone who's not online?
Majeck: But that you know the username?
Majeck: *It is an awesome video
Majeck: hmmmm
Astrobytes: I think you can just PM them
Majeck: How?
Astrobytes: Sorry, think it's only if you follow each other
Majeck: It seems that if I use the /msg nickname on someone who's not online it doesn't work
Majeck: Oh you're totally right Astrobytes
Majeck: Thanks!
Majeck: Found the button in Profile -> Followers
Majeck: Thanks
Astrobytes: Awesome :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: mention them in a comment on discord, they will get an email with your comment/request, but it will be public
Astrobytes: Or just DM them on discord ;)
Majeck: I haven't ever joined the CG discord hahaha
Majeck: Is it worth it?
Astrobytes: Yeah sure, can be interesting at times
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm not on discord much, didn't know DM/PMs were there
PatrickMcGinnisII: but I do get emails when I'm mentioned
PatrickMcGinnisII: no spam plz
PatrickMcGinnisII: ;)
Astrobytes: Not a heavy user myself other than the CG and a few other quiet servers, it's better than regular social media at least!
Majeck: What is? Discord?
PatrickMcGinnisII: alot of stalkers on social media
Astrobytes: lol, Puzzle of the Week: Spam Patrick the hardest
Majeck: Hahahhahahha
Astrobytes: yes Majeck
Majeck: I would totally join in on that puzzle
Majeck: Could you imagine though?
PatrickMcGinnisII: <-- at least i'm ok w/ using my real name.... I have guns...and lots of ammo, heh ;)
Majeck: I imagine Euler renting some servers and sending over 20m messages a day to PatrickMcGinnisII
Astrobytes: Mr McGinnis here would be thoroughly unimpressed I believe Majeck
Majeck: On the contrary I think he would love all the attention
Majeck: Who wouldn't like being completely flooded with spam?
Astrobytes: Quite a few names are known on CG PatrickMcGinnisII, just not really a thing on here
PatrickMcGinnisII: umm, yea... I can send 500 an hour on MY server w/o help
Majeck: I recently learned how to use python to control my GUI and sent over 1200+ messages in 15 minutes to my CS WhatsApp group
Majeck: They were thoroughly annoyed lol
Astrobytes: Don't be That Guy lol
eulerscheZahl: i doxxed myself for a RAIC tshirt :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, how long did it take? 6 months?
Astrobytes: Since they're now a rarity that was a worthwhile investment no? :)
eulerscheZahl: only 9 months to ship
PatrickMcGinnisII: rofl
eulerscheZahl: and the explosion looks like a hamburger
Astrobytes: It's the thought that counts
PatrickMcGinnisII: I keep offerring to laser cut acrylic led plaques for contest winners, then i looked at the shipping costs to certain countries...holy crap...like $100 US from me to Argentina
Majeck: Forgive my ignorance what's RAIC?
eulerscheZahl: russian AI cup
Astrobytes: damn you
eulerscheZahl: hosted once a year. usually plenty of tshirts to win (360)
eulerscheZahl: but not this year :(
Astrobytes: You get Putin's socks, cash or a voucher
eulerscheZahl: still waiting for the delivery from last year. corona delayed it
PatrickMcGinnisII: I would mail 3 to FR tho
Astrobytes: $100 to Argentina from Florida?
PatrickMcGinnisII: yup
Astrobytes: Pretty damn steep
Astrobytes: Mind you, mailing most things these days isn't cheap
Majeck: Couldn't you send them by mail?
Majeck: Or is the $100 using mail
Astrobytes: Shipping usually involves mail service at some point yes ;)
PatrickMcGinnisII: 3 methods to get to Argentina, cheapest was $100 for up to a pound
PatrickMcGinnisII: to EU not so bad, i sent a few things to UK
Astrobytes: (that's about 0.45kg normal people :P )
Majeck: lol
Astrobytes: Might get more expensive now cause of Brexit Patrick (or cheaper, depending on weird trade deals)
codeing: #fr
codeing: fr
Astrobytes: Yes codeing, that's the French channel. We know
codeing: mhm
codeing: what's up gays?
PatrickMcGinnisII: a php guy in top 10 of 2048...yall slackin'
Astrobytes: I'm still ULDR
PatrickMcGinnisII: i think I'm maxed to due to processing limitations
PatrickMcGinnisII: so should be easy to beat 1.4M for yall
Astrobytes: Honestly Paddy, you should try something other than PHP, I *know* you'd smash it
Astrobytes: Extra effort yeah sure, but dig in :smiling_imp:
Astrobytes: Put those C skills to use
PatrickMcGinnisII: Another issue of C for me is I get too involved with inline ASM, and I'll never get any sleep
Astrobytes: So be it.
Astrobytes: Release the inner (FL)nerd
Astrobytes: CG's perfect for obsessing over code optimisation :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: i love java, but then i'll feel guilty about using it for CG and not android
Astrobytes: Och just do it laddie
PatrickMcGinnisII: I run php locally all the time for image manipulations and i don't have to run a big IDE
Astrobytes: Sure, PHP is cool for loads of stuff
PatrickMcGinnisII: PY routine add-ons to software make me pull my hair out
Astrobytes: I think you're wasting your skills sticking with it on CG (just my 2 cents/pence)
PatrickMcGinnisII: i'm almost a Grandmaster sticking to just php
Astrobytes: True. But your multi performance would be even better
PatrickMcGinnisII: yes, the only motivation...sticking it you guys...rofl
Astrobytes: I don't care either way honestly, I just think you should unleash your inner beast properly
PatrickMcGinnisII: Haven't fired up VS in like a year or something
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmmm
PatrickMcGinnisII: might be rusty
PatrickMcGinnisII: I appreciate the thought
Astrobytes: I know you know your shit, don't sell yerself short
PatrickMcGinnisII: crap, i got to go cut some stuff...
PatrickMcGinnisII: glhf
Astrobytes: All good, catch ya later man
aCat: ? codingame
CodingLegend1: Anyone completed the stock exchange losses problem?
CodingLegend1: All my testcases work except the large dataset because it's not optimized enough... help plz
Astrobytes: ? aCat
jacek: ? happy Caturday's eve
aCat: heh
aCat: this should be pasted in browser bar
aCat: I wondered where this typed text went :P
Astrobytes: It's really annoying how the chat takes focus like that :D
Zenoscave: happy caturday tomeowow
kyrillos: peauriebrieake
Zenoscave: Did euler change 2048 somehow?
Astrobytes: He added '-' command to disable viewer, and added some more output in the summary I think
Zenoscave: The viewer is going super fast and then slow for some games
Zenoscave: might be CG related
Zenoscave: also getting
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libstdbuf.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
Astrobytes: ah yeah, that's some bug they're looking into
Zenoscave: shame
Astrobytes: It's quite recent (today) so guess it'll be fixed quickly
kyrillos: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/51088e12-c9f4-471d-b097-594886bc352f
CodingLegend1: Anyone got a solution for stock exchange losses in c++?
MadKnight: yea i got
MadKnight: CodingLegend1
CodingLegend1: How did you optimize it for test case 05? I was able to get all the others
MadKnight: u can do it in 1 loop
MadKnight: and not 2
CodingLegend1: Hmmm, I've tried doing one loop using max/min but then it fails for 06
MadKnight: because max can go after min
CodingLegend1: yeah
MadKnight: so how to do it ?
MadKnight: in 1 loop
CodingLegend1: Haha no idea
MadKnight: u need not just max or min
MadKnight: u need more
MadKnight: so add more conditions
CodingLegend1: standby, I might be onto something
Majeck: Can anyone link me to Euler's site to find Codingame puzzles?
DrQuarius: https://projecteuler.net/
Majeck: Hahahaha
MadKnight: to find what codingame puzzles, Majeck ?
Majeck: I meant one of eulerscheZahl's website
Majeck: I forgot the name but it was basically a search bar for codingame puzzles
Majeck: MadKnight a really dumb (funny) clash of code puzzle I just played
DomiKo: http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
DomiKo: I guess this one
Majeck: It had like 10 lines of statement with unnecessary crap
Majeck: Only for at the end say Bob has n eggs and Alice wants m eggs, how many eggs are sold?
Majeck: It
Majeck: Thanks DomiKo
Majeck: That's exactly what I was looking for
DomiKo: no problem
CodingLegend1: MadKnight what data structures did you use?
MadKnight: ints
CodingLegend1: Nvm I figured it out!!
MadKnight: gj
EmbeddedIs77: Hi
EmbeddedIs77: What languages do y'all use for golf?
EmbeddedIs77: I prefer ruby
EmbeddedIs77: cuz of how many inbuilt methods there are
AlexBrvrt: Hi ! Does someone has a clue for the batman puzzle. I've found a solution but the Tower, i didn't understand how is it supposed to be possible. Can someone help ? ty
Laminator: you gotta be efficient. Think of the game where you guess someone's number by asking if it's above or below x
halworsen: starting to wonder just how many clashes can be solved with regex
nickarshadi: iteresting aproach to solve them with regex
nickarshadi: interesting*
Prince349k: hi
Prince349k: chat ded?
Laminator: 0 if I had it my way
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: automaton2000 d
Automaton2000: which is what i think
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Exactly!
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Automaton2000 you're a good friend
Automaton2000: i'm pretty sure there are a lot of fantasy/mystery to them
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: .-.
Niicide: sup automaton
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Automaton2000 you bot
Automaton2000: so what is the size of the input is read
PatrickMcGinnisII: ERROR: ld.so: object 'libstdbuf.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
jrke: Patrick it happens with me also sometimes
PatrickMcGinnisII: only just started for me when I added a define("FSCORE", ...); statement
**PatrickMcGinnisII wonders if his rewrite of Tulips & Daisies is necessary
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: I found a way to finish detective pikaptcha without timing out... but it takes so long to type it out...
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: :'(
Pengu.: lass mal btw spielen btw
