MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: .-.
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: AutomatonNN
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: ...
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: RIP
MadKnight: do u guys know what's data-driven programming ?
[Csongor]: I would advise you tp
[Csongor]: search
[Csongor]: using google
gsomix: MadKnight, sure, you feed data and haha functions go brrr
gsomix: oh no it's data-oriented
gsomix: i have no clue then
PrivatePirate_33ce: im a beginner here, can i get an explanation for Power of Thor Episode 1
JisuranIchigatsu: it's a condition puzzle, no difficulties here
JisuranIchigatsu: if else
professional_dumbass: are you sure allis isn't a bot?
professional_dumbass: https://prnt.sc/uv7ygu
professional_dumbass: him/her solved it in less than 2 mins
professional_dumbass: and by no means is that a easy question
professional_dumbass: didn't share the code either
professional_dumbass: a bit suspicious
Uljahn: Automaton2000: did you know there are official bots in clashes?
Automaton2000: i do need to add some more
Illedan: Automaton2000 How do I make my code 2x faster?
Automaton2000: no idea how to use the same function
jacek: delete system34
MadKnight: remove half the operations Illedan
Uljahn: make the rest of universe 2x slower
Illedan: :D
kovi: duh, seed is 64bit...
Illedan: haha
Westicles: Nice job Illedan. Running offline?
Illedan: Nah
Illedan: Online still
Illedan: Can get much higher offline
kovi: hmm, is there spawn/bug when the field is full?
Illedan: Should not?
kovi: may not be important, i just stop with prediction error in such case
Illedan: Did it happend because of an incorrect command?
Illedan: Only case where the board might still be full
Illedan: and euler forgot to check for that case
Illedan: :D
Illedan: Seems he do indeed check it
kovi: i cant see where
Q12: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4e7dcd28-9de5-4f84-afe1-47dee1a89176
Q12: https://codeshare.io/500qel
Q12: What does it means?
MadKnight: > FatalProcessOutOfMemory
Q12: Ok Thanks
MadKnight: how much memory did u allocate ?
Q12: I just wanted to create a hash table for numbers but I think that because the numbers are so big I can't make hash table that use their value to point to their location in array
MadKnight: what puzzle ?
Q12: Magic count of numbers
MadKnight: true, it got 9234567891011
Q12: yeah
MadKnight: wait didn't u mistook hashtable with cache arrya ?
Q12: pass all tests but the last two because of run time so now I try to reduce it
MadKnight: because hashtable doesn't allocate memory for all possible things
Q12: I use arrays as hash table.
is there another option that I don't know about?
MadKnight: array isn't a hash table
Q12: So give me example for a hash table in JS so I can understand
iliboss78: who want come to fight
MadKnight: oh, u use js ?
Q12: yes
MadKnight: oh then u are right
MadKnight: it is a hash
Q12: what lang did you talk about?
MadKnight: i talked about arrays
MadKnight: in general
Saaalikh: hey
Saaalikh: i want to clash with some real people for once
Saaalikh: these public clashes are filled with bots ffs
iliboss78: shut the fuck up saaalikh
Saaalikh: are you a bot?
iliboss78: no
iliboss78: i'm just black
Saaalikh: '_'
Saaalikh: ok
Saaalikh: im brown btw
iliboss78: like poo
Uljahn: iliboss78: stop being rude or ban
iliboss78: i don't care
MadKnight: okay then no reason not to ban
MadKnight: don't forget #fr Uljahn
iliboss78: shut up MadKnight i trying to sleep
Uljahn: sleep well, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: what would you do it in the viewer
AntiSquid: hey iliboss78 how's it going?
MadKnight: ask him on #fr, he's no more here
AntiSquid: he's banned already?
MadKnight: ye
Nazdhun: hi. is there a way to send a user a PM on codingame.com ?
jacek: private message on their profile
____Mimil_____: hey guys
Nazdhun: but only if the users follow each other?
jacek: oh? maybe
Illedan: Lol, crazy idea + 5 min code pays off :D
dbdr: gg :)
____Mimil_____: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/21b9fa51-6770-4fac-9b65-bbd309babfdc
____Mimil_____: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5f4ab5e4-d30b-4ca8-9ed3-0ad86a298264
Illedan: Wow, first time 2 equal submits only gave 200k difference :O
Illedan: Not only luck anymore :tada:
dbdr: you use random?
Illedan: Nah, but the timing is random
____Mimil_____: how report , mp?
Cleinpresident: don't say
____Mimil_____: cleinpresident is not cool with me
Cleinpresident: is trolling
dbdr: MC Illedan?
____Mimil_____: can u report this guy plz
Illedan: :angel:
Illedan: Who knows :shrug:
dbdr: :)
Cleinpresident: please
Cleinpresident: i m inocent
Illedan: LOL
Illedan: Ezpz
wlesavo: nice
Illedan: Wait a sec
dbdr: ah, you failed 30M
Illedan: new score INC
dbdr: ignore above :D
Illedan: Now
Illedan: ^^
dbdr: inb4 negative score above 2^31 ;)
Illedan: hahah
wlesavo: failed 40M ))
dbdr: even bigger fail too
Illedan: Damn
Illedan: Told euler I thought it looked too easy
dbdr: it's all relative
dbdr: but yeah, harder would also help with replay size
Alex00N: is here anyone who has passed toptal's first tehnical test?
Illedan: 40 mill ;)
Alex00N: they are pretty demanding
LeRadovidVegan: Hello World!
DomiKo: top score Illedan?
____Mimil_____: print("hello world")
Illedan: Not yet
wlesavo: Illedan nice 50M fail
Illedan: Need 1000 more steps
Illedan: and I solve it
Illedan: Gotta optimize
Cleinpresident: if emilienFoussard parle trop:
wlesavo: yeah optimal score should be possible
Cleinpresident: print("tg")
____Mimil_____: modo can u see the mp, between me and clainpresident?
Cleinpresident: emilien was in irl with me
____Mimil_____: and can u expulse this guy
____Mimil_____: bro are u ok?
dbdr: I looked at the referee, and I don't see how the testcase1 is fixed
dbdr: looks random to me
Illedan: Is it a validator?
dbdr: validator 1
Cleinpresident: ____mimil he hits me irl
Illedan: hm
Illedan: wierd
Illedan: euler said it is not
dbdr: well, what's the seed?
Illedan: :P
Illedan: Only CG knows
dbdr: https://github.com/eulerscheZahl/2048/blob/master/src/main/java/com/codingame/game/Referee.java#L27
dbdr: dirty euler coding :D
Illedan: hahaha
Illedan: OH
Illedan: FML
Illedan: It is possible to get the
131072
Tile
Illedan: I need more speeed
Illedan: 46 mill :)
dbdr: a good problem to have
DomiKo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GwBhbwRv-4
DomiKo: You need speed!
Illedan: Yeah
Illedan: MORE
Westicles: The names are off 1 on the validators
dbdr: how so?
Westicles: Well, I only did the first one(290797) and it only works on the random seed validator
dbdr: 290797 is the second one
dbdr: oh, it does seem there is something off by one
Westicles: yeah.
dbdr: euler screwed up again
dbdr: validators too ;)
Illedan: xD
Illedan: Validators on CG are not the best implementation :P
dbdr: I mean human validators
Illedan: pff
dbdr: kept holes, that they are now exploiting ;)
Illedan: Do we get score on submit for failed testcases?
dbdr: I don't know. I know it won't count as top score
Illedan: ok
dbdr: the % is the first criteria
Westicles: No, you get 0 for a failed case
Westicles: Or if you hit an invalid move
dbdr: Illedan, what's your max number of moves?
kovi: uh, illedan. that is brutal
dbdr: he has close to 50% of the total points on the lb LD
jacek: LD?
jacek: lucid dreaming :?
dbdr: :D
dbdr: L and : are neighbours
Agade: Lymphatic drain?
Allis: Load distribution?
dbdr: hey Agade!
TomasV: local destination?
AntiSquid: lol
Allis: $ whatis ld
Agade: hey dbdr
dbdr: active these days on CG?
Agade: Not really last thing I did was oware abapa I think
Agade: I'm very slowly working on some CSB stuff...trying to do RL with python+Cpp
dbdr: nice
Agade: got #1 on oware but then jacek and robo got even better
AntiSquid: what is jacek using in oware?
Agade: AZ, probably
Allis: What's AZ?
Agade: Alpha Zero
Allis: Derp.
AntiSquid: jacek ?
AntiSquid: ping him Automaton2000
Automaton2000: and you are above me
dbdr: wlesavo, Illedan: how can a score be optimal?
kovi: each call has 2^x
kovi: cell
dbdr: cannot you always go further, potentially
dbdr: ?
kovi: you cant go further then
dbdr: ah, so limited by 2^31?
kovi: 2^32-1 i guess
dbdr: java is always signed
kovi: well, that is not the score
kovi: that is the visual sum of current numbers
dbdr: I mean 2^32 never occurs in java
dbdr: it's either 2^31 or 2^63
kovi: wait i meant 2^17 - 1
kovi: sorry
kovi: not sure about the limit of the score
kovi: if everything comes as 2 it is 2x as if 4-s coming all the time
AntiSquid: 3,932,156 ?!
dbdr: what's that AntiSquid?
dbdr: kovi, i'm not following how what comesmatters
WhiteGlove: I need 5 mins with a java guru
jacek: oO
dbdr: nice, wlesavo is emerging :)
wlesavo: nah, my broken sim emerged to its full power :slight_smile:
wlesavo: is there a limit to printing 10k chars at once?
MadKnight: how do i connect to cg chat with websockets? what uri do i use ?
DomiKo: wlesave I guess there is a limit
DomiKo: when I printed too much i got timelimit
jrke: yeah printing too much timeouts sometimes
AntiSquid: the max score 2048 on single board dbdr
dbdr: ah, 2^1 + 2^2 + ... ?
dbdr: right, you need space for the intermediates
AntiSquid: you need to count all the combos that lead up to the higher numbers too
AntiSquid: checked google for math on the number .
wlesavo: yeah the score is close to max_num*(log(max_num)*2)
wlesavo: petition for eulerscheZahl to draw only the final state of the board after many actions were outputed
Illedan: You can add -
Illedan: and get no viewer
Illedan: Just add a comment on the state
dbdr: what's strange is there is still lag when using -
Illedan: He doesn't reduce the time on each frame without the viewer
Illedan: guess those tousands of sec is causes some lagg
Illedan: :P
kovi: :)
dbdr: only data size should matter
Illedan: Game information:
Maximum number of player interactions (600) reached
score: 2020388
- (
dbdr: you can be #7 with a single grid :D
Illedan: xD
DomiKo: 2Mln is nice
DomiKo: I got like 1.6Mln with 40K moves
DomiKo: how many moves you make?
Illedan: 47k
Illedan: You get the 131072 tile after about 43k moves
dbdr: oh, that's why the score can grow exponentially
Illedan: I get the 2048 tile on the first sec xD
jacek: so you need 18bits per tile?
jacek: wait, 18* different states
Illedan: Score should just be the sum of tiles on the board, would be easier to see the actual progression this way :P
kovi: yes
dbdr: 49M
dbdr: still improving?
jrke: so there is random test cases also
dbdr: no
jrke: so can still hardcore?
dbdr: maybe not because of the size limit
jrke: hmmm
jrke: whats maximum no. of turns?
dbdr: 600
jrke: so we have max 4 ** 600 game states
dbdr: no, you can output multiple moves per turn
Westicles: say 50k characters times 30 validators
dbdr: ill said 47k moves
jrke: oke
jrke: is there any logic on spawing of new tiles
jrke: or its random
dbdr: it's in the referee
dbdr: not random
wlesavo: lol broken sim depth 7 bruteforce able to achieve 4096
nxnjitsu: bruh
Westicles: unicode is 8 bytes? so you could fit 32 moves per character?
DomiKo: not really
DomiKo: or I don't know how to do it
DomiKo: I tried using base65536 but it sometimes have double charaters :((
dbdr: unicode is not 8 bytes
Westicles: c++ has char32_t
dbdr: 32 bits is not 8 bytes either ;)
jrke: damn 49 million
DomiKo: move has to use 2 bits
Westicles: heh heh, oops
nxnjitsu: allow send answers
EMG21: no
EMG21: shut up
jacek: oO
Metanoob: heyo
Shadowtick: hi
jacek: good afternoon
Shadowtick: how are you doing?
AntiSquid: ok
Shadowtick: I thought my classes ended at midnight last night but no it was just the ones due this month
Shadowtick: I was rushing through everything like I gotta get it done!!!
Shadowtick: isnt that sad
CSharp_Sama: God I've been offline for so long
CSharp_Sama: too longe actually
CSharp_Sama: long :flushed:
Metanoob: good thanks and yourself?
Shadowtick: 𝕒𝕟𝕪𝕨𝕒𝕪𝕤 𝕨𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕕𝕠 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕨𝕒𝕟𝕟𝕒 𝕕𝕠?
The_Auditor: what happened to AutomatonNN ?
CSharp_Sama: AutomatonNN where are you
CSharp_Sama: :flushed: he's gone
CSharp_Sama: :sob:
Metanoob: Automaton2000 where is AutomatonNN?
Automaton2000: i am not even sure if it is a very bad idea
Metanoob: thanks for the swift reply man
The_Auditor: even Automaton2000 is sad about his pal AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: right now i have an issue with my code on github
Metanoob: Sure you do buddy
Shadowtick: alright imma go draw something on ms paint website
Metanoob: hf!
Shadowtick: because I wanna draw some art
The_Auditor: Automaton2000 doesn't think that is art
Automaton2000: much much better than i expected
Shadowtick: but it will probably look horrible anyways so brb
The_Auditor: i stand corrected , Automaton2000
Automaton2000: thats pretty much the same as the test cases
Shadowtick: back
Shadowtick: I drew a infinite box
Shadowtick: https://i.imgur.com/gLqcHT4.png
Shadowtick: Because thats the best I can do rn
Astrobytes: Shadowtick: Why do you hang around here
CSharp_Sama: :wave:
Astrobytes: hi
CSharp_Sama: How's life
Magus: Metanoob: AutomatonNN has a little issue right now. Because i was trying to update him, and it failed. So at the moment AutomatonNN won't boot because of a bad dependency chain .... :(
Astrobytes: Plodding along. You?
Magus: Automaton2000 is innocent.
CSharp_Sama: I'm living
Metanoob: ouch, thanks for the heads up Magus
Automaton2000: if you want to simulate the entire game
Astrobytes: hi Metanoob
Metanoob: hey Astrobytes!
Shadowtick: Astrobytes it's because I can and because I have nowhere else to go
eulerscheZahl: 49 million :o
eulerscheZahl: well done illedan
The_Auditor: the student amazes the teacher
eulerscheZahl: the seal amazes the toad
dbdr: TIL Illedan is a seal
Shadowtick: welp imma go back to ms paint and paint more
The_Auditor: Automation2000 did not see your previous creation
The_Auditor: Automaton2000 did not see your previous creation
Automaton2000: sure, but you can make it work
NIKIMINAG: the hell is this
The_Auditor: can you be more specific, Automaton2000 is confused
Automaton2000: they might be a bad move
wlesavo: MC does a little bit better than brute force, but still quite sad
The_Auditor: so, on the weekly challange, i improved the logic and my score dropped :)
eulerscheZahl: i see some difference in scores achieved
eulerscheZahl: weekly challenge?
eulerscheZahl: onitama?
The_Auditor: just like in RL you fix one bug and the app crashes, because the other bugs were relying on the bug that was fixed
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/onitama/leaderboard
is it me or are the scores missing?
The_Auditor: i see scores
dbdr: I don't
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/uvi11m
so naked
dbdr: you're 246th?
The_Auditor: sorry, i see scores in the lateral leaderboard on the puzzle
jrke: yeah he is
eulerscheZahl: i rock at CSB B)
whothehelliskolev: Greetings. What is the version of python? And have you guys tried to use assignment operator in list comprehension? It seems to give an invalid syntax error when running the tests
wlesavo: its working again
jacek: python 3.7.4+
jrke: anybody knows ML here
jacek: print (sys.version)
whothehelliskolev: Oh, I see. Thank you!
eulerscheZahl: jacek that question is for you
https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/community-puzzle-onitama/144170
dbdr: eulerscheZahl, how deep do you beam?
jacek: mhm?
eulerscheZahl: beam me up Spock
eulerscheZahl: const int searchDepth = 50;
const int printDepth = 40;
const int beamWidth = 50;
dbdr: :D
jrke: euler here is one stupid doubt if row = 4 4 4 4 and i play L then it will be 8 8 0 0 or 16 0 0 0
jacek: 8 8 0 0
jrke: oke
wlesavo: it is explicitly said so in example
jrke: it was there but there was none for if both tiles are newly made(btw i said stupid doubt)
The_Auditor: that would be like castling in chess
eulerscheZahl: kudos to ille for making me add an example
darkhorse64: The rule is that there are no cascading merges
jacek: like chaning flips in othello in early drafts
eulerscheZahl: may the source be with you
https://github.com/eulerscheZahl/2048/blob/master/src/main/java/engine/Board.java#L106
darkhorse64: or chaining destructions in smash the code
MSmits: or me just writing spam walls
eulerscheZahl: you are a cascading spammer?
I knew it!
MSmits: :flushed:
The_Auditor: yes ! it's java!
eulerscheZahl: referees are almost always java
has to be a JVM language
MSmits: havent seen someone this enthousiastic about Java since wel... ever
The_Auditor: you obviously did not have to work with C
MSmits: c++
jacek: kree java!
The_Auditor: when java came about i was 10x more enthusiastic
eulerscheZahl: the move function might be a little cryptic
but i golfed it in less than 40 lines with all 4 directions
The_Auditor: c++ has evolved over the years, not as punishing a c
eulerscheZahl: strings in C are fun :sick:
The_Auditor: c is like a katana, very sharp, but you don't want to make salad with it
AntiSquid: C is the alpha stage of C++
MSmits: c++ never got out of beta
dbdr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BETA_(programming_language)
dbdr: I did a summer research project at the university developping BETA as a student :)
MSmits: interesting
MSmits: I prefer shakespeare though
AntiSquid: you were a student at "Scandinavian School" ?
dbdr: visiting
dbdr: we had to go abroad in the second year
dbdr: which was great
AntiSquid: exchange program ?
dbdr: not an exchange, I could pick anywhere in the world
dbdr: I wanted to work on Eiffel, but Meyer never responded :D
AntiSquid: oh. i would pick somewhere warm and sunny
dbdr: Denmark is nice in the summer
CHT-DAT: hi
The_Auditor: hello
dbdr: the sea is still a bit cold :)
dbdr: but the 20 hours of daylight were fun :)
AntiSquid: :thinking:
dbdr: at 3, you don't know if it's 3am or 3pm, looks the same
AntiSquid: 20 ?
AntiSquid: in denmark ?!
dbdr: roughly
CHT-DAT: i am vietnamese bro
MSmits: sun was low I imagine
MSmits: not too bright
MSmits: hi vietnamese bro
MSmits: I am Dutch bro
CHT-DAT: No way bro
MSmits: way
AntiSquid: i never lived that far up north
CHT-DAT: Do you know "Chào em"??
MSmits: nope
AntiSquid: is it edible ?
MSmits: is he/she also a vietnamese bro/gal?
MSmits: or edible. sure
CHT-DAT: I hate China a lots
MSmits: noted
CHT-DAT: We call them Ching Chong
AntiSquid: .
AntiSquid: ya ok drop it
eulerscheZahl: you are working towards a kick
AntiSquid: every language sounds weird to outsiders, let's not be rude CHT-DAT ... feel free to complain about non-racial related stuff
MSmits: and...
MSmits: (religion?)
CHT-DAT: Oke i am fine
AntiSquid: idk
The_Auditor: and politics
AntiSquid: i mean you could talk about censorship
MSmits: what if he complains about you censoring him ? :P
The_Auditor: we can talk about use of AI in censorship
AntiSquid: why can't you jokingly call someone winnie the pooh ?
CHT-DAT: Do you hate china bro??
AntiSquid: that's fine MSmits
AntiSquid: no CHT-DAT
AntiSquid: no motivation .
MSmits: AntiSquid feels only love
AntiSquid: i hate SJWs i admit that
MSmits: JWS ?
eulerscheZahl: love is in the polluted air :notes:
CHT-DAT: You do not know our feeling bro
The_Auditor: @CHT-DAT what programming language do you use ?
AntiSquid: i am aware a lot of neighboring countries hate china for being "intrusive"
MSmits: similar to Russia
MSmits: I suppose
The_Auditor: @MSmiths you stepped in it
MSmits: the :poop: ?
AntiSquid: CHT-DAT apply for americahn citizenship and vote trump, he will make chyna pay
The_Auditor: yep, i did not what to mention my feelings , but now...
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 voted already
Automaton2000: you can still work on your bot
CHT-DAT: I am not good at English but i love my country and you can not know what CHINA has done to us bro
MSmits: yes it's not too late, thanks Automaton2000
Automaton2000: and i don't know how it is in the contest
MSmits: it's soon
The_Auditor: @AntiSquid i don't think the citizenship process works that fast
The_Auditor: 5 years for green card + 5 years for citizenship
AntiSquid: was a joke
AllYourMCTS: anyone know how many CPUs the machines that bots run on have?
AntiSquid: you also don't know which way a country is actually headed in 10 years
MSmits: AllYourMCTS doesnt matter, you only get to use 1 cpu
The_Auditor: if you are lucky and win the "greencard lottery" then its is still 5 years for citizenship
AllYourMCTS: oh damn
MSmits: be glad, saves you from having to parallize
MSmits: to be competitive
The_Auditor: @AntiSquid i agree with you, it's a jke
AntiSquid: and if you are lucky to not have your house burnt down or get shot The_Auditor .
AllYourMCTS: man i was just working on a threadpool in rust and was looking forward to doubling the speed tho
AntiSquid: i think it's ok, if that's what they want to do . their choice The_Auditor
AllYourMCTS: that makes sense
dbdr: MSmits won
dbdr: 't you join
dbdr: the 2048 fun when it's hot?
The_Auditor: So, apply for Canadian residency ! you gcan apply for citizenship only after 3 years of living in Canada !
MSmits: i don't need to, you just said I won
dbdr: :P
MSmits: nah, it doesn't attract me that much
AntiSquid: in china you never get full status even when married to a chinese national so w/e The_Auditor
MSmits: i guess i'll write some bot at some point, but not soon
MSmits: AntiSquid even if you get full status, you live in a country that monitors your every move.
MSmits: no freedom
AntiSquid: UK is getting kinda close to that MSmits
MSmits: doubt it
MSmits: sounds like hyperbole
AntiSquid: hah .
MSmits: it might be moving from 0 to 1 in a scale of 0 to 10 being North Korea I assume
The_Auditor: many countries are getting to that, ppl just like to kick china arround
dbdr: with a phone in your pocket, "they" literally kno your every move
AntiSquid: i think GDPR won't be as strongly enforced after brexit MSmits
AntiSquid: there's cameras everywhere in UK
MSmits: sure, but it also matters what they are used for
AntiSquid: internet data is kept by the ISP for a 6 months if i remember correctly
AntiSquid: and not sure if any laws changed recently .
AntiSquid: regarding privacy
The_Auditor: I have a question: if aliens find earth and notice they like to eate humans, would they care what country the food comes from?
MSmits: in China there are regions (not sure how many places now) where they use point systems to show if you have good behavior
MSmits: the cameras are used for this
AntiSquid: everyone is now automatically opt-in on organ-donor list in UK and you have to opt out, it took me by surprise really .
MSmits: thats fine with me actually
dbdr: this specific one, me too
MSmits: people are too lazy to think about it, so they have to do this
MSmits: otherwise noone signs up
MSmits: because of pure laziness
AntiSquid: i would like to be more aware of such changes .
MSmits: here they made us aware of it, i guess that should have been done better in your case
AntiSquid: was in the talks since last year, went live in march afaik and i found out about it in september
dbdr: there is a talk about the importance of default settings, organ donation was a main example
AntiSquid: but the main news was never covering it
MSmits: yeah that seems bad AntiSquid
The_Auditor: @AntiSquid I think what cardashians did recently is more important then organ donation laws
Metanoob: The Auditor, comparable to humans eating fish, does it matter the ocean/sea? In a way it does, if your favorite taste of fish is located in a specific area
dbdr: problem is not enough people pay for quality news
The_Auditor: where can i pay for quality news ?
AntiSquid: where can i find neutral news ?
dbdr: neutral does not exist
dbdr: and that's fine. good to use several sources, but also care about quality
The_Auditor: neutral is a subset of quality in news domain
Hjax: i like this site, but it seems to be mostly USA news https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news
dbdr: what does neutral mean?
dbdr: everyone has perspective based on their background
AntiSquid: i mean anything that isn't a political echo chamber
dbdr: and that's fine
dbdr: sure, if your goal is to prove one party is better than another no matter what, it's not going to be quality
AntiSquid: you can look at 2 opposing views and still not get the honest truth .
Hjax: you can, but at least you can evaluate both perspectives for yourself
Hjax: which is important
dbdr: sure. the biggest lie is that there are only two sides to an issue
eulerscheZahl: even the selection of what's worth reporting is biased already
Hjax: also morning/afternoon/evening everyone :D
AntiSquid: journalistic silence is journalistic violence /s
eulerscheZahl: good afternoon :)
AntiSquid: and if i don't to see you for the rest of the day good night
Hjax: i agree theres no such thing as unbiased news, imo the best you can do is expose yourself to lots of different perspectives
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzQZy7fGuNM
Hjax: at least in the USA the whole "us vs them" mentality is super prevalent, and not very productive
dbdr: yes. sometimes I force myself to watch a talk after I realize I really disagree with the speaker
dbdr: can be interesting
Shadowtick: hello again
Shadowtick: gtg bye
AntiSquid: what so soon? oh damn
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: are you aware the validator names don't correspond to the actual seeds?
dbdr: they are off by one
MindController: Can some1 help me with hard puzzle surface?
MindController: No need anymore
Shadowtick: back
Shadowtick: I hate my internet it keeps flickering in and out
eulerscheZahl: yes dbdr, see the discussion here https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5526526226cd3d7bf021041199031dc1612b
and https://github.com/CodinGame/codingame-game-engine/issues/35
eulerscheZahl: i bothers me too. but it seems that the correct tests are executed, just labeled incorrectly
eulerscheZahl: and i would be surprised if this will get resolved before the next contest
dbdr: ah, I see: "isValidator": "false"
eulerscheZahl: priotity: low
i think :D
eulerscheZahl: i spelled that wrong
dbdr: :D
dbdr: 2nd warning ;)
eulerscheZahl: just like gamengine
dbdr: game&gin
dbdr: &tonic
eulerscheZahl: https://github.com/CodinGame/game-skeleton/blob/master/pom.xml#L10
you can't unsee it
The_Auditor: cofefe
eulerscheZahl: or good old referer
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer
jacek: mystery solved - he didnt use bitboard
dbdr: HELO
dbdr: in SMTP
dbdr: jacek ?
jacek: forum onitama
Shadowtick: hi everyone
jacek: how may we help you, Sir/Madam
The_Auditor: hello
pharesmostafa: ho
pharesmostafa: hi
pharesmostafa: start
pharesmostafa: hello guys any one know c++
jacek: i know him, c++ is nice guy
MSmits: i think he's obnoxious
Einwickler: Has a hard time with memory sometimes though. He can be really resentful
MSmits: and when he is easygoing, he takes it to extremes
dbdr: If C allows you to shoot yourself in the foot, then C++ is giving you a machine gun! -- James Prince
jacek: what does rust give you?
Allis: Tetanus.
dbdr: memory corruption and data race safety at compile time
dbdr: without performance penalty
Astrobytes: well played Allis
dbdr: :D
MSmits: do you mean it gives you memory corruption and also data race safety, or does it give you safety for both those thingS?
MSmits: I can read that both ways dbdr
Astrobytes: lol
dbdr: guess ;)
MSmits: ahh well, I guess I always thought rust was better in all ways, but if it can corrupt your memory...
dbdr: you *can* if you really want to :)
MSmits: cool
MSmits: I corrupt memory a lot
dbdr: you have to tell the compiler this is an unsafe section
MSmits: ah see, that's more work than I would have to do in c++. It just assumes everything is unsafe
jacek: which is true
dbdr: yes, it's more work. the idea is to make the safe way easy and short, and the dangerous one longer but possible
Hjax: i always heard the quote as "C++ makes it harder to shoot yourself in the foot, but when you do you lose your whole leg"
Astrobytes: I think Stroustrup himself said that one
Hjax: but yeah, from what ive seen is that rust tries really hard to make the most logical/most rust friendly approach also be the approach that results in safe code with fewer bugs
Hjax: so once you get used to thinking in rusts philosophy, you get the benefits for free mostly
Hjax: i do wish we could get a newer rust version on codingame, the language is updated so frequently
JBM: wait till you hear about the haskell lag
jacek: hm?
Shadowtick: привет
Shadowtick: I am learning Russian :3
Shadowtick: привет means hi
dbdr: #ru
Shadowtick: I am not joining that until I am fluent in russian
JBM: that's kind of backwards
JBM: joining would *help* you become fluent
dbdr: I'm not going in a simming pool until I know how to swimm
JBM: i'm not coding in C++ until I'm through with the '20 spec
Shadowtick: I am using https://www.duolingo.com/learn to help me learn
JBM: i used to
JBM: 'tsall MadKnight's fault
Shadowtick: madknight told me it is a good one
dbdr: do you still do? ;)
JBM: nope
01000110_01110100: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Shadowtick: I am using it because I wont get side tracked on it
01000110_01110100: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Hjax: yeah the swimming analogy for language learning i hear a lot
JBM: i had a frontal with their handling streaks wrt timezones and lost a *long* streak
dbdr: 01000110_01110100 stop
Hjax: sitting on the beach reading about swimming isnt going to work
Hjax: gotta get in the water
JBM: that killed my motivation
Astrobytes: immersion technique
JBM: (no, it did *not* motivate me to pay $10 to keep the streak)
Shadowtick: w̷̫͐e̴̼̅l̴̮̓p̶̥̃ ̸̮͆t̷̜͑i̷̲̕m̴̪̒e̷͈͗ ̸̥̈ţ̶͑ő̶̤ ̴̫̆l̴̡̇e̴͍̓à̴ͅr̶̊ͅǹ̵͚ ̵̻̕ṃ̷̓ǫ̷͂r̷̘͘é̴͍ ̵̬̈́r̷̯̿u̵̙̍s̴̤̋s̶̰̆ḯ̶͜á̴͈n̷̟͘
dbdr: pay to streak? :O
JBM: pay to save
JBM: but close enough
JBM: the funny thing is
JBM: i got notifications for my suggestions/corrections being accepted
JBM: years after i stopped
Shadowtick: 𝕚 𝕒𝕞 𝕘𝕠𝕟𝕟𝕒 𝕘𝕠 𝕜𝕖𝕖𝕡 𝕝𝕖𝕒𝕣𝕟𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 𝕣𝕦𝕤𝕤𝕚𝕒𝕟
JBM: please do
dbdr: a CP market place would totally work
Hjax: ive been trying to learn japanese, its quite difficult, but its fun
JBM: it's a nice language
Shadowtick: yes it is
dbdr: solves CG financing and pro players needs at the same time :)
Shadowtick: and I actually want to learn russian for 3 reasons
Shadowtick: 2*
JBM: that's better than 2
JBM: ok
dbdr: *1
JBM: that's better than 1
dbdr: Взлететь
JBM: that's kind of...
Shadowtick: its because I know two Russian game characters in two different games and because I always wanted to learn russian
JBM: feels
JBM: incomplete
dbdr: is it?
Shadowtick: :3
JBM: i dunno,. ask the natives
Shadowtick: yata yadeza oof oof oof oof oof oof ooooooooof
Shadowtick: just imagine someone making a video but instead of ora ora ora its oof oof oof
Shadowtick: but thats never gonna happen
Shadowtick: brb imma learn more russian
Astrobytes: ...
Shadowtick: Я вернулся
AntiSquid: go to #RU for russian
Shadowtick: sorry didn't mean to put it
Shadowtick: I've returned and is there a Korean channel by any chance?
Shadowtick: because I am learning korean also
AntiSquid: #KR
JBM: but he's not fluent yet!
Shadowtick: thanks
Shadowtick: I have a couple of friends irl that know Korean
Shadowtick: so I know some words in korean
AntiSquid: like what
Shadowtick: 안녕하세요 is hello.
잘 지냈어 is how are you doing
좋은 하루 되세요 is have a good day
AntiSquid: spamming random wrods makes perfect JBM
Shadowtick: you asked me what words I know in korean
Shadowtick: so I answered your question
AntiSquid: but can you spell it out with european alphabet without looking at google?
JBM: spelling korean with a european alphabet is a weird request
Shadowtick: I had to enable the korean keyboard setting
AntiSquid: he uses hangul
AntiSquid: sure
AntiSquid: spell the letter z with korean alphabet Shadowtick to prove you know how to write korean
JBM: what purpose would that achieve?
JBM: random testing to assess his motivation for something totally extrinsic to the chan's values?
Burnerlover: im at school wtf phython 3 is hard
jacek: thats what she said
AntiSquid: omg seriously these no avatar users are criticizing a lot aren't they?
Astrobytes: use python 3 instead
JBM: i'm on pidgin
JBM: *all* users are no-avatar
Burnerlover: i am on python 3
JBM: tough
Burnerlover: luck
JBM: yeah
Astrobytes: was a joke playing on your typo Burnerlover
Burnerlover: well adios england is boring
Burnerlover: k
AntiSquid: python is easiest
Burnerlover: o
Burnerlover: im embarrassed cause it hard
Burnerlover: im new to coding
Astrobytes: Everyone's a beginner at some point
AntiSquid: it's ok
AntiSquid: just take it easy, step by step, first upload an avatar
Burnerlover: done
Burnerlover: not loading yet tho
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: out of curiosity, on a scale of 1 to Norman Bates, how mad does the no avatar issue get you? :P
Shadowtick: ready to get a korean z AntiSquid
AntiSquid: not all, it's just that CG chat is running a special promotion where you get an extra kick before getting banned if you have an anime avatar and don't want users to miss out on potential benefit
Burnerlover: 3
Astrobytes: :rolling_eyes:
Burnerlover: anyways is there a python 1 and 2?
Burnerlover: cause whya re they not there then?
Shadowtick: ...
AntiSquid: well the history about python 1 is very interesting and i forgot it so i suggest looking it up . python 2 is kinda old so it's just python 3 now
Astrobytes: Python 3 is newest, used to have python 2 but it was removed. Kind of irrelevant for the platform, only use is for maintaining legacy stuff I guess
Burnerlover: okthen
Burnerlover: i gono take python 1
Burnerlover: on another website
Burnerlover: but dont worry
Burnerlover: i will come back
AntiSquid: there is no python 1
Metanoob: good luck I guess?
AntiSquid: and you might not even find python 2
Burnerlover: there isnt?
AntiSquid: well there is and isn't
Metanoob: nah not really
Burnerlover: dang well guess im staying here
Burnerlover: yay
Astrobytes: It's not like 1, 2 and 3 are difficulty settings ;)
Burnerlover: ok thanks that would be scarie
Metanoob: the main syntactic difference between python 2 and 3 is that in python 3 you have to print with braces : print('Hello World!')
Metanoob: the rest is libraries/apis
Burnerlover: yeah i noticed you use print("X")
AntiSquid: some functions work differently . so just use py3
Burnerlover: x is a varible
Burnerlover: kk
Burnerlover: th
Burnerlover: x
Burnerlover: i will join the discord too
Astrobytes: parantheses Metanoob :P
Burnerlover: lul bye doing school work
Metanoob: thanks!! braces are for teeth
Metanoob: :grimacing:
Astrobytes: {}
Iuliep: :(
Iuliep: :)
Iuliep: :D
Iuliep: :P
Iuliep: :O
Iuliep: Oo
Iuliep: >:(
Metanoob: that's probably my biggest struggle with english there, how to name those chars
Metanoob: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/70b4e927-1fc1-44e9-b829-838197b4797f
AntiSquid: accolades
AntiSquid: duckduckgo pastebin
Metanoob: is curly braces acceptable too right?
Metanoob: yeah I tried formatting and naming all those chars I knew, turns out I must have created an 'effed up code snippet
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: chat pastebin is borken
Astrobytes: yeah {} can be curly braces
Metanoob: oh alright, I don't know well the features of the chat actually
Metanoob: cool ty Astrobytes
Burnerlover: im on the decent rn and i got past decending mountains but nothing else, help?
Shadowtick: what is going on here?
Shadowtick: I come back from coding something on khan academy and I see this
AntiSquid: don't ruin it Shadowtick
Burnerlover: ?
Burnerlover: anyone help with python 3 the decent
Shadowtick: ok I won't AntiSquid
Shadowtick: because I am getting off anyway
Iuliep: why is pastebin brocken?
Astrobytes: It happens sometimes, should be back soon
Iuliep: oh ok thanks
Iuliep: what you do to get better at solving puzzles? i am doing pretty well in clash of code but i have some dificults at the puzzles. I know they are suposed to be hard but what you guy do to get better at solving them?
Astrobytes: Are you doing the easy ones?
Hjax: clash isnt great practice, its better to take your time and work through more difficult puzzles than to spam through easy ones in clash
Iuliep: i do some easy onew
Iuliep: ones
Hjax: which puzzle is giving you trouble?
Iuliep: not some puzzle in special
Astrobytes: Have a look at the tags on the puzzles, usually gives you some insight into what you need to know/learn
Iuliep: but idk what to do when i cant finish one
Astrobytes: Keep trying and don't give up, ask for help/advice, read the forum threads (if there is one)
Hjax: yeah people are more than happy to give you a hint to push you in the right direction
Hjax: maybe its just an algorithm you dont know yet
Astrobytes: ^
Hjax: we can tell you the name of it so you can go learn it
Iuliep: oh ok
Iuliep: i usually wasnt going to ask for advice
Iuliep: i was tring myself
Iuliep: but didnt find a clue
Astrobytes: tl;dr: don't be afraid to ask/look for some advice
Hjax: trying for yourself first is fine, but its better to get help and learn something than give up
Hjax: besides 50% of my job as a software engineer is using google anyway :P
Astrobytes: Definitely doign the right thing by trying as hard as you can first
Astrobytes: *doing
Astrobytes: lol
Iuliep: if you ask for one that is giving a hard time
Iuliep: isnt really a hard time
Iuliep: but idk why i dont get 100
Iuliep: is a easy one
Iuliep: back robbers
Iuliep: can i upload my code or something?
Iuliep: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/cea69b58-9fd8-4dda-8906-0df972dd3947
Astrobytes: ah, use pastebin.com or something instead
Hjax: the paste thing is broken today :(
Iuliep: https://pastebin.com/5qki3sR7
Iuliep: i think this is
Iuliep: is in C++
Astrobytes: you don't need that whole second for loop
Iuliep: ?
Astrobytes: And you should think about at which point you need to sort
Iuliep: i soretd after i calcualted all the vaults
Iuliep: sorted*
Iuliep: after i am subtrating the smalles number from all the vaults for how many robbers there are
battlelife6: hay can someone help me with this coding
AntiSquid: no, because nobody knows what you are referring to
Astrobytes: Think about how you might be able to do it in a single loop Iuliep
Hjax: ok i solved the puzzle, im unable to access pastebin, but i can answer questions
battlelife6: im talking about code royale
Hjax: there was a pin at the top of ##python on freenode for a long time, maybe its still there
Hjax: "Don't ask to ask"
battlelife6: i can send my curent code
Hjax: its better to just ask your question rather than showing up with a "hey i have a question"
battlelife6: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/78a610f5-a6bd-4704-9671-bfa6dca2e9cc
jacek: welp
Hjax: the paste thingy is broken today battlelife6
AntiSquid: just state what your problem is and where you are stuck BattlePirateVanDerSwag_35df
Astrobytes: use pastebin.com battlelife6
AntiSquid: battlelife6
jacek: only today?
Astrobytes: was ok the other day
AntiSquid: didn't see it work all week
battlelife6: sory never mind
Astrobytes: may have been momentarily, or I may not have had my coffee at the time :P
Astrobytes: you solved your issue battlelife6?
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwA-GGc7PRE
Hjax: man on the big heist it takes the robbers 3 months to get in, this bank must have some pretty terrible security
Astrobytes: lmao
Astrobytes: Iuliep: any progress?
Illedan: dbdr at your question at 1 PM. Was just a random submit giving me 49 mill. I'm still a little away from max limit
Astrobytes: Nice AntiSquid, the oceans can be as weird as space
AntiSquid: they're streaming non-stop it seems. just randomly chekcing their stream from time to time
Illedan: And I can only get the 131k tile if I get a 4 tile spawn at that exact round xD
kovi: ofc
Hjax: the good 2048 replays probably look silly, the tile will always spawn in the lucky place :D
Hjax: (obviously not luck because the rng is predictable)
Hjax: (but it will /look/ lucky :D )
Astrobytes: I've not written anything serious for that yet, just output the same sequence every time
Astrobytes: One of my favourite timewasting games lol
Hjax: submit spamming?
Astrobytes: no, 2048 :P
Astrobytes: as in 2048 is a favourite timewasting game. My submit is just outputting ULDR repeatedly
dbdr: Astrobytes: I hear ULR is better
Astrobytes: I got better with ULDR I think, lemme check
dbdr: not sure which one exactly, but 3 directions, not 4
kovi: does it matter which 3? :)
dbdr: yes for finite number of seeds
DomiKo: ohhh no
DomiKo: 1.4Mln
DomiKo: I have squeeze more
kovi: what is your depth now?
AntiSquid: Astrobytes seriously? just the full sequence?
Astrobytes: cout << "ULDR" << endl;
**AntiSquid competing for best 0 effort submit
AntiSquid: and you just resubmitted that? heh ?
Astrobytes: resubmitted?
dbdr: if you count effort per points, ULDR is high
Astrobytes: happy now Hjax & AntiSquid? :P
AntiSquid: sorry
Hjax: im trying other permutations
AntiSquid: i just couldn't believe it
Hjax: but hit the submit limit lol
Astrobytes: Yeah, better to check in IDE first Hjax
Hjax: are the cases the same?
Astrobytes: Don't think so but there seemed to be a good indication that shit scores in the IDE meant shit scores on submit :P
Hjax: :D
DomiKo: Hjax yes
DomiKo: they are the same
Hjax: theres no way to see the sum of the ide tests though is there?
Astrobytes: I stand corrected
AntiSquid: when game first came out i tried ULDR and didn't give me good score compared to ULR so i thought that's best instant score
AntiSquid: + only needed 1 single line of it not multiple ones
Hjax: i wish this game gave me legal moves
Illedan: lol
Hjax: im lazy and dont want to figure it out
AntiSquid: ya same
Illedan: I have 20 unit tests to verify my logic :P
Astrobytes: Sim should be easy enough to implement, not looked at the ref yet
Astrobytes: you're 100% online Illedan right?
AntiSquid: not if you're lazy
Illedan: yeah
Illedan: dbdr offline?
Astrobytes: nice
dbdr: ?
Hjax: oh if i do 2048 im definitely doing it offline lol
Illedan: Solving it offline dbdr?
dbdr: ah. no
Illedan: :)
kovi: lately i test sim through playing (checking predict from last turn vs. input of next turn)
dbdr: what's your secret Illedan?
Astrobytes: usually a good way to test the sim
DomiKo: Hjax offline is not great for top scores I guess
DomiKo: One test case have length 40K+
DomiKo: so you have to make a lot of parsing
Illedan: secret?
Astrobytes: as in 'Give us your algo' :P
Illedan: Oh
Illedan: Sure
Illedan: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3239c59e-5422-48f3-a361-9a25c9fab40f
DomiKo: "Invalid paste id, perhaps it expired?"
DomiKo: I guess your algo crashed
Illedan: Yeah just did
Astrobytes: lol
Illedan: I keep sending only - and it is valid by the engine
Illedan: :D
DomiKo: You have to resubmit
DomiKo: is there any blog about parsing data in CG?
Astrobytes: replays and stuff?
Astrobytes: https://tech.io/playgrounds/53705/contest-tools-and-workflow/the-codingame-api
Astrobytes: thanks to our Toad
Hjax: i have beaten the completely random solution by attempting to play legal moves :D
Illedan: :clap:
Illedan: Soon 1st? ezpz
Astrobytes: share your code or get kicked! (i'm joking!)
DomiKo: and that's C#
DomiKo: imagine speed in C++
eulerscheZahl: share your code and get kicked
Illedan: Oh, nice we have Moves and score information now <3
Illedan: thx
Astrobytes: spoilerscheZahl strikes again :rolling_eyes: :P
Astrobytes: oh, nice update
Hjax: im almost the best dumb heuristic bot
Hjax: not sure if i should be proud or sad
Astrobytes: lol, gj
Astrobytes: anyways, out for tonight. Laters all :)
Hjax: cya
kovi: oho
kovi: hjax: i almost reach 100k with dumb (well not so dumb, but no actual simu)
dbdr: gg kovi
kovi: thx dbdr
Illedan: Nice, closing in!
Hjax: whats the maximum number of moves you print in a turn Illedan
Illedan: Like in the first sec?
Hjax: yeah
PatrickMcGinnisII: Illedan, like 20M wasn't enough?
Illedan: 1300 on the first sec
Hjax: 1300 is quite a few, and you are just using some beam search i imagine?
Illedan: Wont tell
Hjax: oooh a secret :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: 600 commands...oh i thought it was 600 commands per turn for 300 turns
Illedan: Sweeeeeet
Illedan: :tada<.
Illedan: :tada:
Illedan: Removing some linq helps :)
jacek: good for you
Illedan: xD
Illedan: Score: 2491016
Moves: 56033
Still half a mill in points I guess
MSmits: mmh got a win vs you jacek, using negamax
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/491847143
MSmits: no idea if it's actually better than my old bot, probably not
Illedan: what depth?
MSmits: depth 8
MSmits: TT doesn't seem to help much if at all
MSmits: surprised me
MSmits: also I am using my mcts eval, so it's not exactly optimal. I am dreading refitting all these parameters :(
MSmits: it's really quite different when you use eval in a UCT guided search or just use it to pick the highest score one in a negamax setting
Illedan: true
Illedan: anyway
Illedan: I'm off
MSmits: my mcts bot with eval solves much sooner
Illedan: Guess that is the end of my 2048 career
Illedan: :)
MSmits: huh why
Illedan: Fun little detour
Hjax: now give everyone else 6 months to catch up
Illedan: Pretty close to max
MSmits: how do you know it's max?
MSmits: you broke replay size?
Illedan: Because it can't possibly spawn more numbers
MSmits: ohh
MSmits: mmh you kinda broke eulers game then
MSmits: good optim supposed to have a soft cap
MSmits: but you hardcapped it
Illedan: I guess max is a few millions above this
Illedan: But I'll accept someone beating it
Illedan: Guess tomorrow :)
MSmits: you mean it stopped being fun for you and you're moving on?
Illedan: Yeah, I can see the max and have to rewrite everything to be SUPER efficient to get there
Illedan: Can use that energy for something with more value :P
MSmits: true, wise move then
Illedan: I got enough value from the game for having about 8 hours of fun :)
Hjax: its funny, most papers on 2048 are useless here
MSmits: why is that
Hjax: because our game isnt random
MSmits: ahh
MSmits: except for that one random case?
MSmits: or are all validators nonrandom?
Hjax: idk, but one of your input parameters is the seed
PatrickMcGinnisII: This one is still pretty good, give you some ideas on what to add to an eval... https://spartanideas.msu.edu/2015/04/27/artificial-intelligence-has-crushed-all-human-records-in-2048-heres-how-the-ai-pulled-it-off/
Hjax: so it doesnt matter anyway
MSmits: ah ok
Hjax: you can simulate the game for an arbitrary seed trivially
Illedan: bye
jacek: so? just make the expectimax the nonexpectimax, it should be even easier
MSmits: :confused:
Hjax: yeah my point is that this game is easier than the game the papers are playing
Hjax: most of the science the paper covers isnt super useful
MSmits: ah ok, for D&B the reverse is true
MSmits: most papers are about smaller board sizes
PatrickMcGinnisII: a 4x4 2048 game is still expected to end tho
Hjax: i found a paper doing a n-tuples eval, seems like massive overkill
MSmits: maybe it's just enough kill? Did it perform well?
Hjax: it did, they had like 16 million weights though
Allis: Is that not a lot?
Hjax: its a ton
MSmits: 16000
jacek: you could try smaller ntuples
MSmits: ton
Hjax: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.05085.pdf
Hjax: i never got around to writing ntuples for othello either :D
MSmits: me neither
jacek: i only have them in othello and onitama for now
MSmits: I use my code size more efficiently :P
MSmits: with success too
MSmits: I rank above you in onitama, but my bot loses most games
MSmits: someone pushed me to 2
jacek: i fear resubmiting
Hjax: onitama is a really strong looking game
MSmits: you'll pull me down
Hjax: strange*
Hjax: ive never seen anything like it
MSmits: it's really quite nice
MSmits: the sim takes some figuring out
MSmits: even though it's not that complex
jacek: the cards for the opponent werent obvious
MSmits: the rotating can get confusing
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm still working on beam, gheesh
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: laserbeam?
MSmits: support beam?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I should be, got laser presents to make for GF anniversary
PatrickMcGinnisII: no beam search
MSmits: beam search is cool
MSmits: I used it a few times. In contests too
MSmits: it;s one of those algorithms that's often useful
PatrickMcGinnisII: I can only make 21,845 boards before running out of time with php
MSmits: thats not bad
MSmits: it's not great either, but you can do something with that
MSmits: if you get that many sims in hypersonic, you can get to legend I think
MSmits: I won't waste my time convincing you to try a different language though.. I know what you'll say
PatrickMcGinnisII: so I'm dynamically choosing the top half of 64 boards, rinse and repeat until i get to max board creation timeout
MSmits: sounds good
PatrickMcGinnisII: i free the board memory inbetween my output and reading new input, so that time doesn't seem to count against me
Hjax: i probably wont attempt 2048, since ill be playing jrkes unofficial contest soon
MSmits: what game is that?
MSmits: the unofficial contest I mean
Hjax: uh, either fantastic beasts, code of ice and fire, or tulips and daisies
Hjax: whatever wins the vote
MSmits: I see
Hjax: fantastic bits* my bad :P
Hjax: no copyright infringement here, no sir
jacek: and tulips and daisies is leading
PatrickMcGinnisII: all of which i suck at
Hjax: i voted code of ice and fire personally
Hjax: looks like a nice, fun, heuristic friendly game
jacek: heuristic :scream:
Hjax: im lazy, i dont want to write a search
MSmits: its a nice game
Hjax: but if tulips and daisies wins i need to write a search
MSmits: but you kind of need a search for at least parts of it
MSmits: for example an endgame detector
MSmits: floodfill/bfs style
Hjax: that kind of thing is fine
MSmits: if you watch some replays, you'll see them finish off with a chain
MSmits: that's a search
Hjax: i just mean when the whole game is, write a search and tune your eval function, it gets kind of sterile and boring imo
Hjax: i like strategy
MSmits: mmh it could be a search and still has a lot of strategy
MSmits: the strategy is in writing the evaluation, which could have many parts
Hjax: the pr2 unofficial contest was pretty fun
Hjax: i like games like that, if only the game had better / more fair maps
PatrickMcGinnisII: fml: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/db37eb40-bcdf-4ba2-a49d-91e0c867699a
MSmits: doesnt work
Hjax: pastebin is dead patrick
jacek: indeed
PatrickMcGinnisII: i c
PatrickMcGinnisII: i get:
PatrickMcGinnisII: Warning...
PatrickMcGinnisII: at line 0
PatrickMcGinnisII: fml
MSmits: gonna get some sleep, gn all
halworsen: good luck
MSmits: if I catch you outside my window making shadowfigures again...
sunksuperset370: can someone translate python to javascript
sunksuperset370: here
sunksuperset370: i was looking at some code and I needed to figure out what the code was doing
sunksuperset370: python 3 is hard to understand formy puny brain
sunksuperset370: js is easy
sunksuperset370: any help
Metanoob: I sent you a dm sunksuperset370
sunksuperset370: whwhwhwhy?????
sunksuperset370: admin?
Metanoob: no you asked for help about translating some python3 to js
sunksuperset370: ok
Metanoob: do you still need some help?
sunksuperset370: yes
sunksuperset370: sorry took time to reply
Metanoob: where is the code you need help with?
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/196c929e-0cb7-4ab8-9869-239e79e6457e
Metanoob: no worries
sunksuperset370: wait sorry
sunksuperset370: https://codeshare.io/adBMez
sunksuperset370: the code is one the site
Metanoob: cool I see it
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: any help
apollodor: Hello
sunksuperset370: hello
sunksuperset370: metanoob
sunksuperset370: you here
sunksuperset370: can any one translate python 3 to js
Metanoob: yes, I left a comment on the page of the code snippet
Metanoob: refresh if it is not visible yet
Metanoob: basically %2X is to print as hexadecimal number, and %02X is to add a leading 0 if the hex value is only made of 1 digit
sunksuperset370: sorry i still can't see the coe
sunksuperset370: code
Metanoob: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/16286d3f-61fd-4f70-b1a9-10065d258562
sunksuperset370: paste bin doesn't work right now
Metanoob: https://codeshare.io/GAevKr
Metanoob: that is one possible equivalent in js
sunksuperset370: can you put the code in easy js
Allis: That is easy JS. You should get familiar with bitwise shifts at some point.
Allis: In base-10 (the number system you're used to), multiplying by 10 is a left shift of 1; same idea in binary, except it's 2 instead of 10.
Metanoob: color channels are a bit tricky, because those are using bitwise operations to store 3 colors (and sometimes also an alpha channel) into a single 32 bit integer
sunksuperset370: ???????????
sunksuperset370: sorry i am new to coding
Metanoob: are we allowed to link to external resources such as a tutorial in CG chat?
sunksuperset370: i think
Allis: Sure, it's weird at first, but only because new programmers don't realize they have an intuitive sense of how positional number systems work, and just need to apply a bit of rigor.
Allis: @sunksuperset370 If you had the number 1234, do you know how to extract the digit in the hundreds place (the 2)?
sunksuperset370: var numb2 = 1234;
Allis: What.
sunksuperset370: console.log(numb2[1]);
Allis: No, that wouldn't quite work; numbers aren't indexable in JS.
Metanoob: it would work, but numb would have to be a string in that case
sunksuperset370: ooooohhhh
Metanoob: so, with a tiny bit of math
sunksuperset370: var numb2 = '1234'l
sunksuperset370: ;
Metanoob: you can extract the second digit, even if it is a number
sunksuperset370: uuiummm
sunksuperset370: how
Metanoob: I believe what Allis was refering to is something called the decimal logarithm
sunksuperset370: uuuumm oookkkkkkeeeeyyyyyy
Metanoob: which is available through js's math api as a function called Math.log10
sunksuperset370: i am still a noooobb at js
sunksuperset370: still a new programmer
sunksuperset370: in js
sunksuperset370: don't know a lot of js though
Metanoob: I understand maybe explaining something from one language to another might not be the best option to understand what's going on here
sunksuperset370: i was wondering if you could tell me how js works than I would think that would help
sunksuperset370: i know some of it
sunksuperset370: but i am not an expert
sunksuperset370: like if statements
sunksuperset370: while loops
sunksuperset370: var const let
sunksuperset370: arrays well some of it
sunksuperset370: mostly this is all i know
Allis: Now apply those things you know and write some programs.
sunksuperset370: what do i need to write the code for like what is the goal to do with the code
Allis: Even if they're very simple programs, there's no better way to learn to code than to write code.
sunksuperset370: ok
Allis: Just randomly learning this and that and trying to memorize it won't be an effective learning approach. Gotta get your hands dirty. :)
sunksuperset370: lol
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: do you want to join my clashj of code so I can see what I can do?
sunksuperset370: allis metanoob?
sunksuperset370: any one
Allis: The trick is to push yourself just beyond your limit; you want to be in a position where you *almost* know everything you need to know to write the program, but then you hit a block and you need to learn something new to proceed.
Metanoob: clash of code is a great place to start yes
sunksuperset370: do you want to join mine
sunksuperset370: ?
Metanoob: I am okay to play one round with you yes
sunksuperset370: ok
Metanoob: it's midnight here though so I won't stay too long
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: i will create the clash
Metanoob: how do we join the clash? will you invite us yeah?
sunksuperset370: yeah
Metanoob: ok cool
sunksuperset370: allis
sunksuperset370: can you play too
Allis: I'm in the middle of a different Clash, but it's shortest mode so I have time.
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: i sent metanoob an invite
sunksuperset370: i need to play with more players too
sunksuperset370: half minte left
Metanoob: Im in :grin:
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: :grin:
Metanoob: wow it supports up to 100 players
sunksuperset370: yep
sunksuperset370: uujm
Metanoob: do you know the modulo operator in js?
Metanoob: it is the the operator %
Metanoob: like +, -, * or / etc...
sunksuperset370: yes
Metanoob: oka
Metanoob: y
sunksuperset370: check this out
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f7b9e5bf-1ebe-4b6c-92b1-b277034eeae8
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/56178629-0670-49dd-a010-9563fbf1542e
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/218a96c4-f1d0-4eab-aaf1-3090ff563808
sunksuperset370: need help
sunksuperset370: shorted mode
Allis: Oh, hey, you're my 100th follower. That's pretty neat.
Allis: I feel like you should get a cake or something. :sweat_smile:
sunksuperset370: ooooooh
Metanoob: haha grats
Allis: Danke.
sunksuperset370: problem
sunksuperset370: this is the code
sunksuperset370: const N = parseInt(readline());
sunksuperset370: let answer = ' ';
sunksuperset370: if (!N/4) {answer = 'Ok'}else {answer = 'AAAAAAAAAA!!!'};
sunksuperset370: why dis not work
Metanoob: N/4 will always be different than 0, unless N is 0
sunksuperset370: ?
Metanoob: 100/4 = 25
Metanoob: however
sunksuperset370: N can't be 0
sunksuperset370: check constrains
sunksuperset370: 1 <= N
sunksuperset370: so N can't be 0
Metanoob: I understand, my point is N/4 isn't the way to check if a number is divisible by 4
sunksuperset370: 2 mins
sunksuperset370: ok
Metanoob: modulo % is useful for that however
sunksuperset370: how
Metanoob: N%4 will tell you what the remainder is, after division
sunksuperset370: ok
Metanoob: if the remainder is zero, then it means than 4 was able to fit fully in N, so it is divisible by 4
sunksuperset370: so if the remainder turns out to be an integer the answer will be aaaaa
halworsen: N%k == 0 means N is divisible by k
Metanoob: yes!
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: generally, N%k == a means that N=c*k+a for some integer c
sunksuperset370: well
Metanoob: nice job, 100% sunk
sunksuperset370: yayayayaya
sunksuperset370: yay
sunksuperset370: can you do another one
sunksuperset370: please
Metanoob: I'm afraid I have to leave
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: can allis do it
sunksuperset370: or halworsen
halworsen: do what
Metanoob: clash of code with sunk
halworsen: sure
Metanoob: cool, alright you have fun I'll see you around I guess :)
sunksuperset370: i can't follow you for some reason halworsen
halworsen: weird
sunksuperset370: i think you should go to clash of code
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: i could follow you at least
halworsen: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/14130021ae89964bdc77953de37bb32924ed360
K-: Hello World :D
sunksuperset370: i am in
sunksuperset370: can allis
sunksuperset370: do this
halworsen: dont think we're in the same lobby
itwasmeDIO: za wordo
sunksuperset370: nono
halworsen: ah there
sunksuperset370: allis
sunksuperset370: you there
halworsen: gl
sunksuperset370: hurry
Allis: Dang. I just missed it.
sunksuperset370: i think this is going to be hard
sunksuperset370: i can't seem to figure out what this code work
sunksuperset370: is word a string
sunksuperset370: how do i figure out how long the word id
sunksuperset370: this is all so confusing
sunksuperset370: i can't do tis
sunksuperset370: help hep help!!!!!!
itwasmeDIO: muda muda muda
itwasmeDIO: MUDAAAA
sunksuperset370: ?????
sunksuperset370: what
sunksuperset370: oh my god halworsen
halworsen: what language are you using
sunksuperset370: js
halworsen: uhh
sunksuperset370: i am bad at this
halworsen: i think it's word.length
sunksuperset370: help help help
halworsen: if you fed the input into word, that is
halworsen: yeah
sunksuperset370: word is input
sunksuperset370: so word is a string
halworsen: yeah
halworsen: if you did const word = readline() the length is word.length
sunksuperset370: yep
sunksuperset370: i forgot how to write a while loop
sunksuperset370: while ( i = word.length(word) i==0; i--){
};
sunksuperset370: is this how we write a while loop
halworsen: that looks like a for loop to me ;)
sunksuperset370: i quit
halworsen: while loops keep running until the stuff inside () is false
sunksuperset370: the problem is ther are some errors
halworsen: word.length isn't a function
halworsen: length is a property of word
sunksuperset370: ???
halworsen: if you have word='abc', word.length is 3
halworsen: no function call needed
sunksuperset370:
while ( i = word.length(word) i!==0; i--; {
};
sunksuperset370: until i don't == to 0 i ==
halworsen: for (let i = word.length; i == 0; i--) {
...
}
sunksuperset370: oooh
sunksuperset370: tgere is still an error
sunksuperset370: plus how do i get to the last letter in the string
sunksuperset370: this is confusing
halworsen: that's fine, it took me longer than i thought it should too
sunksuperset370: i just quit
sunksuperset370: lets sstart another one
sunksuperset370: i will create it
halworsen: sometimes writing the code is just really tough
PatrickMcGinnisII: while ((i=readline(STDIN)).length>0) {}
PatrickMcGinnisII: ?
halworsen: does that read 1 char at a time??
sunksuperset370: hello
PatrickMcGinnisII: no, I have npo idea what you are doing
halworsen: discussing a clash
sunksuperset370: patrick you want to join
PatrickMcGinnisII: read a whole line at a time
PatrickMcGinnisII: then interate over it
halworsen: also, for future reference, you can get the last character in the string with word[word.length - 1]
sunksuperset370: do you want to joing the clash
halworsen: or word[word.length - 2] for the 2nd last character
halworsen: and so on
sunksuperset370: ANNNNYYYOONNNEEE WANT TO JOING!!!
halworsen: you & me bud
PatrickMcGinnisII: string.charat(n)
PatrickMcGinnisII: oops
PatrickMcGinnisII: charAt
PatrickMcGinnisII: lookup JS email validators, looking at code is great way to learn
halworsen: sounds like a one way ticket to regexes
PatrickMcGinnisII: yea, don't use regex ... very slooow
sunksuperset370: well i don't know
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f8fb2f71-e733-4d44-b477-e285867d7ce2
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/831a0368-f662-4333-ad11-2731b873c9d3
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c2950ab1-1285-4480-a3ff-9e8a8b3503ce
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a181446a-d4f3-4f8a-a9ee-a34818629aca
sunksuperset370: why is this crap not working!!QQQ!!!
sunksuperset370: while (N <=0)
sunksuperset370: {n--;
sunksuperset370: out= w;
halworsen: so
sunksuperset370: console.log(out);}
halworsen: N is how many times to repeat it right, so N is gonna be > 0
sunksuperset370: yes
halworsen: at least at the start
halworsen: and you want to loop N times
halworsen: but N <= 0 is false, so the while loop won't run like that
sunksuperset370: wel i changed it to just a >
halworsen: yep, that's correct
halworsen: also remember that variables are case sensitive
sunksuperset370: still don't work
halworsen: N and n are not the same
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, while(out.length>0) {out=substr(out,-1); console.log(out);}
halworsen: na this is a different clash
halworsen: you get N and a word then print the word N times on different lines
sunksuperset370: i got it
halworsen: niiice
halworsen: good job
sunksuperset370: i just had to change the first const to a var
sunksuperset370: lol
sunksuperset370: didn't notice that
sunksuperset370: another one?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'll shutup, my suggestions are all wrong anyways
halworsen: sure
halworsen: lmao
halworsen: not wrong, you just dont have the context :p
sunksuperset370: what does Imao
sunksuperset370: mean
PatrickMcGinnisII: roflmao
sunksuperset370: wait never ming
sunksuperset370: how do we do this one
sunksuperset370: is this binary
halworsen: nope
halworsen: the first line tells you how many numbers you get
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: the second line is a list of numbers separated by spaces yeah?
sunksuperset370: ?
halworsen: and each number is the ASCII code for a character
PatrickMcGinnisII: what's the name of the clash?
sunksuperset370: fasted mode
halworsen: idk i finished it
sunksuperset370: ?
sunksuperset370: this is really confusing
sunksuperset370: i don't know ASCII
halworsen: ASCII is a text encoding
sunksuperset370: i don't know that encoding
sunksuperset370: if i don't know this i can't do it then
sunksuperset370: i q
sunksuperset370: sorry
sunksuperset370: i just easjly give up
PatrickMcGinnisII: list of clashes http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/?q=&category=CLASHOFCODE&title=on&statement=on&tests=on&comments=on&tags=on&author=on
Allis: @sunksuperset370 That's gonna be a huge problem.
LastRick: Any mods on that could send me Validator 3 and/or 4 for Logically Reasonable Inequalities, would be much appreciated. Can pass all tests but can't get by those. Thanks.
halworsen: i mean
halworsen: yes, if you keep giving up that's not good, but some clashes don't really fit for beginners
sunksuperset370: well i am a beginner
halworsen: also, sunk, ASCII is basically just taking a letter in the alphabet and turning it into a number
Allis: I more meant the whole self-starting thing. Being able to learn without being forced to is kind of a superpower.
sunksuperset370: so i guess i am going to blow my ass away in everything I I don't work u
sunksuperset370: up
halworsen: so the clash is asking you to turn those numbers back into letters
sunksuperset370: yes and i don't know Ascii
halworsen: very often you'll have functions that can translate back and forth for you
Allis: But you could! It's not a secret.
sunksuperset370: can you join my clash
sunksuperset370: allis
sunksuperset370: >
sunksuperset370: ?
sunksuperset370: can you join too
Allis: The rated ones are more exciting. :/
sunksuperset370: hhhm
halworsen: lol
sunksuperset370: can you joing allis
sunksuperset370: please
halworsen: i wonder why you would find them more exciting... hmmm
sunksuperset370: AAAALLLLIIIISSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
sunksuperset370: look in your notification box
PatrickMcGinnisII: String.fromCharCode(ascii_code)
sunksuperset370: join
halworsen: sounds about right patrick
sunksuperset370: never mind
sunksuperset370: help
halworsen: what do you have so far
sunksuperset370: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/7a205b58-e2e8-4f88-9286-f80ce07fa780
sunksuperset370: nono
halworsen: just paste it directly into chat
halworsen: the pastebins don't seem to work
sunksuperset370: i am put the paste bin shit is getting gin the way
sunksuperset370: i can't do it
sunksuperset370: i type in control V
sunksuperset370: but the thing thinks i am using paste bin
sunksuperset370: https://codeshare.io/2jBLLM
sunksuperset370: here
halworsen: what lol, does codingame put your code in a pastebin automatically?
sunksuperset370: this is the code so far
sunksuperset370: yes
sunksuperset370: it does
halworsen: cool
halworsen: ok anyways
halworsen: so A is the word you wanna wrap in stars
sunksuperset370: yes yes i know
halworsen: and on the line with the word you have something like * word *
sunksuperset370: but this should at lease log the second line
sunksuperset370: but the thing logs nothing
halworsen: ok so first off word.length isn't a function
halworsen: it's just let Star = word.length + 4;
sunksuperset370: how do i use the thing then
sunksuperset370: word.length wont work
sunksuperset370: what is the thing taking the length from
halworsen: let sTar = is a syntax error
halworsen: oh right you called it A
halworsen: it's A.length + 4
halworsen: if you have a string and you read it by const inp = readline() it's length is inp.length
halworsen: or if you do const bean = readline() it's bean.length
halworsen: yea?
sunksuperset370: okok
halworsen: let sTaR = is a syntax error, you can remove that line
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/aba48be8-e846-467f-8342-284ee027bb25
sunksuperset370: now how do i put in the amount of starts rather than longing in a number
halworsen: bruh
halworsen: ok so in javascript
halworsen: strings have a function called repeat
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: so you can do '*'.repeat(n) to repeat * n times
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: e.g. '*'.repeat(5) gets you '*****'
sunksuperset370: so '*'.repeat(Star)l
halworsen: yes
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: well that worked
halworsen: nice
halworsen: gj
sunksuperset370: another one but with more people this time?
halworsen: i can do 1 more but i'm heading off after
sunksuperset370: ok
sunksuperset370: any one else want to join
sunksuperset370: 3
sunksuperset370: 2
sunksuperset370: 1
sunksuperset370: uuuummm
sunksuperset370: any help here
sunksuperset370: how do i vise versa a capitalization
sunksuperset370: help
sunksuperset370: help
sunksuperset370: help
halworsen: string.toUpperCase()
sunksuperset370: ?
halworsen: or string.toLowerCase()
halworsen: 'a'.toUpperCase() => 'A'
halworsen: 'A'.toLowerCase() => 'a'
sunksuperset370: how do i check if a letter is lowercase or uppercase
halworsen: hint: 'a'.toUpperCase() => 'a'
halworsen: oops
halworsen: 'A'.toUpperCase() => 'A'
halworsen: is what i meant
sunksuperset370: i don't get it
halworsen: in the same vein, 'a'.toLowerCase() => 'a'
sunksuperset370: i am really confused
sunksuperset370: how how how
halworsen: what happens when you take the upper case of a upper case letter compared to when you take the upper case of a lower case letter
sunksuperset370: ?
halworsen: the upper case of 'A' is 'A', yeah?
sunksuperset370: yeah
halworsen: and the upper case of 'a' is 'A'
sunksuperset370: yeah
halworsen: mhm
halworsen: there's a difference there you can use
sunksuperset370: ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1027224/how-can-i-test-if-a-letter-in-a-string-is-uppercase-or-lowercase-using-javascrip
PatrickMcGinnisII: google is your friend
sunksuperset370: uuum
halworsen: was trying to lead you onto the answer but google is also cool lol
sunksuperset370: can i figure out stuff while keeping google out of this
sunksuperset370: google isn't what i want to go off of
sunksuperset370: if i did i would have done so a long time ago
sunksuperset370: i need to ask real people for help
sunksuperset370: sorry patrick
Allis: @sunksuperset370 That's a really silly mindset. You're not just gonna magically know stuff.
sunksuperset370: i know
Allis: Learn how to learn; it's a remarkably valuable skill.
sunksuperset370: lol
sunksuperset370: will
sunksuperset370: well
PatrickMcGinnisII: start with built in functions like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String
sunksuperset370: the problem here is that google isn't always right
halworsen: there are some problems where googling the answer is justified
halworsen: and there are some problems where you stand to learn a lot by arriving at the answer by yourself
Allis: Googling to just find an immediate answer to the problem isn't what's being suggested.
sunksuperset370: can i please know what is the topic question I asked was
sunksuperset370: i thought i was shouting help help help
sunksuperset370: sorry
halworsen: it's a string manipulation problem
sunksuperset370: didn't mean to be a jerk
PatrickMcGinnisII: How do i vice versa a capitalization
halworsen: that's a broad subject so you won't really find this problem by just searching for that but that's the family of problems it belongs in
sunksuperset370: well
sunksuperset370: 3 mins left
DarkDev: #C#
sunksuperset370: i need to know how i did so far
halworsen: thing i was going for was that if you take the upper case letter of an upper case letter, it doesn't change
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: but if you take the upper case of a lower case letter, it does change
sunksuperset370: ok
halworsen: so you can check if the character changes to know if it was upper or lower case
DarkDev: @lua
sunksuperset370: ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: c=(c==c.toLowerCase()?c.toUpperCase:c.toLowerCase);
halworsen: ternary might be a bit beyond this level
halworsen: anyways, c===c.toLowerCase() means c is lower case
halworsen: c===c.toUpperCase() means c is upper case
PatrickMcGinnisII: i didn't google tho, i answered his Q
sunksuperset370: well timed out
halworsen: sunk, i suggest you go look at the puzzles, it's nice not to have a time limit hanging over you while learning basics
halworsen: don't be afraid to google for hints if you really are stuck, but you should make sure you've tried to solve the problem using what you already know first
PatrickMcGinnisII: sunksuperset370 find a searchable function url like https://devdocs.io/javascript/ whre you can easily see the function prtotypes to refer to
sunksuperset370: sorry about being a jerk
sunksuperset370: thx you all
PatrickMcGinnisII: and a bunch of IDEs have function prototype built in for you. i do JS in Notepad++, i think it does do a little error checking, but u still need access to the prototypes
PatrickMcGinnisII: I think people recommend intelliJ
sunksuperset370: well i was thinking if i should learn c++
PatrickMcGinnisII: console.log everything , before and after var manipulations to really visualize what u did
sunksuperset370: ok thx
sunksuperset370: well i think i should work on some other puzzle
sunksuperset370: welli think ishould leave bye
sunksuperset370: see you tommorrrow
DarkDev: Does anyone know C#
LegendaryStone: Allis do you mind sharing your code?
LegendaryStone: :pensive:
LeopoldFitz: You can show your code
UnPlugThaMatrix: im looking for a gf
LinhT.Nguyen: same
LinhT.Nguyen: any programmer model here
LinhT.Nguyen: i want to persuade you to become my gf
LinhT.Nguyen: sounds good
Majeck: LinhT.Nguyen hahaha
Majeck: Being alone in quarantine is no fun
Majeck: I'm actually madly in love with a girl on here
Zenoscave: That's not cringey at all...
Majeck: Mostly because she's always beating me by like 10 points in any competition I try
Majeck: Zenoscave I know, I'm completely pathetic
Zenoscave: Then change.
Majeck: I mean
Majeck: What's the harm lol
Majeck: I'll never see her in real life
Zenoscave: but still your sentence is offputting.
Zenoscave: this general chat is not the place for that
Majeck: Sorry what I meant to say was that I was completely obsessed over a girl here
Zenoscave: doesn't help..
Majeck: My whole life has been consumed by a fictional account
Majeck: I do nothing all day but refresh her page in the hopes that she has responded to my 87th message
Majeck: My parents are thinking about dis-adopting me
Majeck: But I don't care for I am completely enchanted
Majeck: Is that less cringe Zeno?
Zenoscave: sure sounds good now
Majeck: Fiufff
Majeck: I was worried I was being a little crazy but now I know that I'm being completely normal
UnPlugThaMatrix: what if the acc is a bot lol
UnPlugThaMatrix: ir prob is a thot bot
UnPlugThaMatrix: *it
Zenoscave: nah, only bot is Automaton2000 and AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: but your bot is worse
Zenoscave: lol
Majeck: UnPlugThaMatrix noooooo
Majeck: I hadn't even considered that hahaha
Majeck: Well I guess every morning I'll have to help her pass her captchas
Majeck: (Zeno all of this is satire)
Zenoscave: (i figured that out after a bit...)
Zenoscave: (just slightly slow)
Majeck: My whole life is a satire
Niicide: lol
LeopoldFitz: No, you are miracle.Just turst yourself.
Niicide: your mom p**** is a miracle
Majeck: Hey language
LinhT.Nguyen: hahaha its ok to be in love
Unkmar: I was tired, so I just satire.
LinhT.Nguyen: lmao
PrivatePirate_33ce: im a beginner here, can i get an explanation for Power of Thor Episode 1
