MostComplicatedUsername: ML?
MostComplicatedUsername: COnfused
Tiramon: Antisquid, current version in arena trained for around 3k games something around 50mins
Tiramon: i'm just uploading a new
Tiramon: looks like the new version learned the 'In fact, one must always make a move that allows the opponent to continue playing.' rule
Tiramon: new version trained another 4h
Tiramon: that means 15k games
Tiramon: damn webquinty always generates a state where my bit still picks an invalid action
and the boss still wins by score
MostComplicatedUsername: https://www.codingame.com/replay/469833090
MostComplicatedUsername: lol im the best
ArianPunk: Hi, anyone would want to answer my question regarding the ANEO puzzle?
WINWINWIN: :D MostComplicatedUsername
WINWINWIN: What is the doubt ArianPunk?
WINWINWIN: Personally, I bruteforced the puzzle
ArianPunk: I think I'm ok now. The validity of puzzle does depend on the speeds and sitances
ArianPunk: distances*
WINWINWIN: Yes
ArianPunk: you mean you tried all the speeds one by one?
WINWINWIN: Yes, I tried all starting from smallest and printed when I found a valid one
ArianPunk: It took a few if conditions?
WINWINWIN: Yeah
ArianPunk: same as me, but im doin it from max to the correct speed.
WINWINWIN: That would be a bit slower right?
ArianPunk: reverse
ArianPunk: faster
ArianPunk: I think both
ArianPunk: depends on the asnwer
ArianPunk: we re looking for the max speed. so it makes more sense to start from the max speed we are allowed.
WINWINWIN: Yes
pb4: Tiramon : what game ?
struct: he is doing oware
ArianPunk: yup, ANOA done. I do better on medium puzzles than on easy ones.
AntiSquid: oh my bad, i thought his NN model was for vindinium where he is like #15 :D
AntiSquid: maybe i should have went to sleep earlier, but basically last night look at vindinium leaderboard and thought, damn Tiramon progressed fast
AntiSquid: looked *
Tiramon: pb4 oware aba.. something
Tiramon: guess vindinium is a bit more complicated than oware ;)
ShlOk: Illuminati!!!!!
Tiramon: and Antisquid oware has 12 states in range of 0 - theoreticall 48 and 6 actions
vindinium has 5 actions, but the board alone constists of 576 states in range of 0-7 + states for life, gold,
Astrobytes: Try some of the other board/grid games Tiramon, simpler stuff t han Vindinium ;)
Tiramon: first i want to get to the next league in oware with my dqn ;)
pb4: Tiramon : care to share more about what you're doing ?
Astrobytes: of, priorities and all that :)
Astrobytes: *ofc
pb4: dqn + self play is difficult to combine
jacek: next league in oware?
jacek: im still in wood :C
struct: But there is wood 1 and 2
jacek: so he didnt even made into wood1? noob
Astrobytes: :P
dsy: f²
Mirartes: ASCII ART
4 TEST M@NH@TT@N
WTF where @?
Mirartes: its dont A and dont O
Uljahn: non A-Z -> "?"
Mirartes: thx)
Mirartes: я пропустил)
daffie: is bronze league available for the weekly puzzle yet?
wlesavo: daffie there will be no bronze
jacek: thats community game
jacek: they dont have bronze+ leages
daffie: so there is only wood league?
Astrobytes: yep
daffie: oh okay
Astrobytes: Just think of placement as equivalent to leagues
Astrobytes: :)
AntiSquid: but don't too highly of your placement ^
struct: One day Yinsh will be available
Astrobytes: like someone we know
AntiSquid: top 300 doesn't equal gold in a community puzzle of 315
struct: and I can rest
struct: Dont know what you mean
jacek: no rest. make more games
AntiSquid: actually struct could make and suggest a community contest, and if CG rejects it then he could just make it a community multi since he does it anyway
struct: I dont have original ideas for contests
struct: Both my multies are ports
struct: of games that already exist
Astrobytes: So you just need ideas then
struct: and I need to like it
struct: the idea
AntiSquid: the games you do are very obscure
AntiSquid: and you can just change a few rules
AntiSquid: captain sonar is played as 8 players, but was modified
Astrobytes: well yeah
struct: I was gonna port Arimaa next
struct: but im not sure if I will
struct: chat down?
Astrobytes: back now it seems...
Tiramon: pb4 all i did was let my DQN with fixed Q targets and ER/PER play against old weights of himself with the official referee
Tiramon: and because my agent didn't learn this 'moves are invalid if opponent can't move' i seeded a few states in the PER with a high deltaQ in my last training session
Tiramon: i then let him play around 5k games with different opponents of his weight
Tiramon: last run was another 15k games
Tiramon: worked quite good, but he still has alot to learn .. the boss is a real "§$"%"
AntiSquid: i don't remember the boss being that hard, i mean i was just checking for the basic == 2 or == 3
cegprakash: Hi guys tomorrow I'll be streaming paper soccer or search race let me know which one you prefer. Fantastic bits fans I'll stream it next week or the week after. The idea is to do easier games first
ZarthaxX: i dont think those are easy to start
Astrobytes: Sure they are Zarthalderaan
AntiSquid: papper soccer looks annoying to do, didn't even read statement, but ceg didn't either i guess
cegprakash: as long as it has "soccer" in it I'm interested
cegprakash: and I want to try GAimax
Astrobytes: I will only watch if you also have a Prune Array.
cegprakash: no Prune array
cegprakash: it's too much to ask
Astrobytes: 1 less viewer...
cegprakash: yeah 1 less viewer out off the 5 viewers I get
Astrobytes: Yeah but people rewatch streams later
cegprakash: codingarden seems to be streaming now
cegprakash: I'm going in
Astrobytes: Anyway it's about quality of viewers, not quantity...
Illedan: struct, slow? :D
struct: rusty javascript
Illedan: haha
cegprakash: wow thx Astrobytes
struct: Yinsh was approved
struct: :fireworks:
Illedan: :clap:
Astrobytes: :tada:
WINWINWIN: Nice struct!!
ZarthaxX: pog
Astrobytes: They pushed it 3 hours early struct!
WINWINWIN: How do you start playing it?
thepianist59: I think that I have a little problem in my clash of code ... I return the expected value each time but the console tell me that no output is expected
struct: I quit this clash, Ill go next one
struct: :p
Astrobytes: Has AntiSquid submitted in D yet?
Illedan: This one was crazy hard
ZarthaxX: Astropytopus howdy
thepianist59: https://i.imgur.com/VqVijkp.png
That .. weird
struct: not weird
Astrobytes: You missed my Zarthalderaan earlier AnthraxX
struct: it ask for 97
struct: not 97.0
struct: you need to remove leading 0
thepianist59: but it tell me : expected : nothing
struct: yeah it expected nothing
thepianist59: not expected 97
struct: you stil printed .0
struct: Yeah can be a bit tricky
thepianist59: but normally it tell "expected: 97"
thepianist59: not expected nothing
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes i saw it
ZarthaxX: now you are using my second part of the name
WINWINWIN: I will savour this a lot :D
WINWINWIN: https://imgur.com/QiaGxVK
Astrobytes: Ah OK OctoZarth. Yes, the whole name is available for use
ZarthaxX: LOL
ZarthaxX: sheez
Astrobytes: Zarthabytes
ZarthaxX: the fusion is real :O
Astrobytes: Unclear Fusion achieved :P
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
struct: I win WINWINWIN
struct: my true ai is too powerfull
WINWINWIN: :angry: WHY?
WINWINWIN: 11 points above me??
ZarthaxX: lol
WINWINWIN: :D
ZarthaxX: gg
struct: yeah i coded it in 30 sec
WINWINWIN: ????
WINWINWIN: I just submitted random.choice(validActions)
struct: I added 3 lines to default code
ZarthaxX: this game is super complex right
struct: 4*
struct: A bit complex ZarthaxX
struct: lots of moves
Astrobytes: Not super-complex, but a little more than average
ZarthaxX: big branching as time progresses?
struct: Sometimes there are 200+' moves
ZarthaxX: :I
WINWINWIN: I havent read the rules yet :) thats the problem with valid actions given
ZarthaxX: that's an interesting challenge for the community
struct: But those 200+ will probably have game ending
struct: Like someitmes you will have moves where you can remove 2 rings at once
struct: might even remove 3
struct: which is insta ending
WINWINWIN: Struct we played 71 matches and I won 3 of them :(
eulerscheZahl: friendly reminder: Kotlin Heroes starts soon
struct: vovels Illedan
struct: :D
Illedan: LOL
WINWINWIN: codeforces eulerscheZahl?
struct: submit is 200 matches
struct: nice
Illedan: I have to go in 30 min eulerscheZahl :(
mimobiscocho: hi
eulerscheZahl: yes codeforces
eulerscheZahl: solve 1 task and you have chances for 1 of 50 random tshirts
eulerscheZahl: or reach top50
WINWINWIN: Kotlin similar to Java? idk Kotlin :(
b0ot: Could anyone explain why this code wouldn' t work: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/115ec487-4105-4404-bf68-f084d3f46f36
eulerscheZahl: kotlin looks different to Java
ZarthaxX: b0ot you gotta give a context
b0ot: check if at least one capital letter, one lower case letter. one digit, and 8 characters or longer
RoboStac: also I'm assuming legnth isn't a valid function
b0ot: I believe it is
b0ot: I console.log an example and a,b,c,S.length were all true
RoboStac: shouldn't it be length?
b0ot: somehow the && of them all was false
b0ot: DAH
b0ot: dangit
b0ot: spelling
b0ot: lol
RoboStac: :)
b0ot: I spelled it correctly in the debug
b0ot: not in the actual call
b0ot: sob
struct: eulerscheZahl I must do the challenge in kotlin?
WINWINWIN: "Kotlin Heroes"
Astrobytes: Naw man, just submit Haskell to a Kotlin competition
eulerscheZahl: of course struct
eulerscheZahl: last time it was 9 tasks
eulerscheZahl: a few easy one, some medium, some hard
eulerscheZahl: 2.5h
WINWINWIN: How many tasks do we need to solve to get a decent rank?
eulerscheZahl: ICPC format: your penalty times will be added
eulerscheZahl: last time i solved 6 out of nine. was close but i got top50 with it
cegprakash: codingarden clash: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1237089a1675656b5daf469481222c11d453f95
Astrobytes: Don't post clash links in chat please cegprakash ;)
WINWINWIN: :D
WINWINWIN: what is codingarden cegprakash?
cegprakash: https://www.twitch.tv/codinggarden
Astrobytes: A streamer WINWINWIN
eulerscheZahl: i just shared a tshirt contest with random winners ceg. and you come with clashes
Illedan: I can invite you instead Astrobytes?
eulerscheZahl: i think I won
Astrobytes: Hell no Illedan :P
struct: please shortest
cegprakash: what t shirt
Illedan: fastest
cegprakash: I loves T shirt
eulerscheZahl: https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/78047
eulerscheZahl: top 50 will win a Kotlin Heroes t-shirt and an exclusive Kotlin sticker, competitors solving at least one problem will enter into a draw for one of 50 Kotlin Heroes t-shirts.
WINWINWIN: shortest
jacek: will they win kotlin ketchup as well?
Astrobytes: And will it be called Kotchup? Or Ketchlin?
jacek: and woah, paper soccer? move generation is quite the beast
AntiSquid: ceg posting clash links
AntiSquid: i really starting thinking you're some kind of subliminal troll
WINWINWIN: euler finished the first one on Kotlin Heroes?
AntiSquid: or rather subtle troll ?
Astrobytes: He's very far from subtle lol
AntiSquid: obscure? hard to tell if he's trolling or serious
AntiSquid: gaymax algo will be forever remembered by CG chat
Astrobytes: Along with the Prune Array
AntiSquid: Prune A* sort ment
Astrobytes: lol
ArianPunk: anyone done winamax?
AntiSquid: yes
ArianPunk: some tests can be solved in more than one way, cant they?
ArianPunk: E.g. test 3.
AntiSquid: ah yes, but there's a specific way the problem wants you to solve
ArianPunk: The don't cross
AntiSquid: i think i did it recursively and it worked not sure anymore what their logic was
ArianPunk: its says itself , that it's recursive.
AntiSquid: it got annoying when trying to reverse engineer their thinking
ArianPunk: Anyway, Im almost sure it cant be done in different ways legally.
ArianPunk: According to its own rules.
AntiSquid: yes it can
AntiSquid: i just agreed with you :/
shaggy1: :)
ArianPunk: You said there's a specific way.
AntiSquid: there's a specific way you need to solve it to get the 100%
ArianPunk: hm
AntiSquid: because the validators expect only 1 specific answer
ArianPunk: Supposedly won't put time on it when I figured the answer ain't single.
AntiSquid: i liked the problem at first, but then got annoyed when i found out my solution wasn't accepted because it's slightly different although correct
ArianPunk: Probably *
ArianPunk: You beat it on its rules, and itndidnt give you the green tick?
AntiSquid: it did
VikasVishwakarma: hey
ArianPunk: But they didn't accept it? weird. whats that mean
AntiSquid: lol
AntiSquid: it means that my initial solution was giving one type of correct answer and the other their desired correct answer
AntiSquid: which is what we have been discussing all along
AntiSquid: wtf ...
AntiSquid: AD ?
cegprakash: codingarden closed the stream after seeing my solution https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/report/1237089a1675656b5daf469481222c11d453f95
cegprakash: RIP codingarden
AntiSquid: no clash links please cegprakash
cegprakash: I didn't invite you
cegprakash: do u want me to invite you?
AntiSquid: see what i mean? hard to tell ...
cegprakash: clash is also part of this website.. it's allowed in world chat. As long as I don't invite u it shouldn't trouble you
struct: ok, put more spam in it
struct: Maybe ill start spamming invites to you
AntiSquid: ok maybe it's me . ceg bragging about his clash skills and this is the right chat to brag i guess .
WINWINWIN: Im 4/4 in yinsh :(
AntiSquid: top 5 !! :o
WINWINWIN: :D
struct: We have been beaten
struct: 100% win rate
struct: Now we just need to wait for tric trac to destroy us even more
AntiSquid: using the power of D to climb
WINWINWIN: Nicely done TricTrac
trictrac: thanks
struct: you are using MCTS?
WINWINWIN: He has only 1 loss, against you antisquid
trictrac: yes for the first time (all others bots are alpha-beta)
darkhorse64: random rollouts ?
trictrac: no eval
trictrac: it 's a patched MCTS
Astrobytes: Early termination?
darkhorse64: "patched": smart moves inside the rollouts ?
Astrobytes: (good job btw)
darkhorse64: What impress me the most is that tric trac comes so fast with a good bot
trictrac: I worked on yinsh since the first version
Astrobytes: Yeah. He's got the experience and the knowledge deeply embedded there darkhorse64 ;)
struct: Lets see how strong bots will become
struct: From some replays I saw from actual players
struct: They dont seem to place rings at the middle
Astrobytes: Yeah, defo gonna have to study the game a bit before I write a bot for it. Hope you get many players struct
Astrobytes: Made a great job of it
struct: Im thinking on porting arimaa, but i have mixed feelings on it
struct: Thanks astro
Astrobytes: Why the mixed feelings?
struct: Might be a bit too hard
struct: 4 moves per turn per player
struct: With so many moves possible
Astrobytes: Ah yeah. Well, it was designed to be difficult for computers right
struct: yeah
struct: And 15 sec per player isnt really much
struct: I wish there was time bank
Astrobytes: What about a variant, since it's CG limitations
struct: So player could choose how much time he uses
Astrobytes: Yeah, time banking would be useful for sure
struct: CG keeps track of time, they could just add it to the SDK :/
Astrobytes: Put in a feature request. . .
struct: Also if you guys feel that 100 ms is too short for YInsh, feel free to say so
struct: I left at 100, but I can increase it up to 200 maybe
struct: even 300
Astrobytes: Seems doable in 100, pruning moves and whatnot
Astrobytes: You know, with my Prune Array
struct: What did I miss?
struct: I cant recall
Astrobytes: ceg's Prune Array, you remember
Astrobytes: He had an array of numbers he was using to prune moves, and thought it was a/b pruning
struct: Oh right, my memory
struct: cant forget this usefull method
Astrobytes: :D
Hammodeh: Hello World
Uljahn: then GAimax was invented, the common algo for games that GAimax solves
jacek: why would you laugh. he just got wrong idea. i bet everyone had some wrong ideas about how a/b or mcts works ~~
Astrobytes: It's not that. It's the overconfidence thing jacek, it's like a ceg meme
jacek: is he popular
Astrobytes: popularly annoying yes :P
But he's actually a nice guy, I like him
Snef: Hello
Snef: how's your SR Astrobytes ?
Astrobytes: Hey Snef, not quite ready unfortunately, bad week (family). But should hopefully be up and running with that and some BR improvements too pretty soon
Astrobytes: ooosh, when did Neumann get ahead of reCurse?
Snef: yesterday evening or this night i think
Astrobytes: Pretty sure this evening, I think I looked earlier today and he was 2nd
reCurse: Pretty sure I already spent too much CPU time on this hardcoding garbage
Astrobytes: lol, don't hold back there reCurse
jacek: maybe you should go back to u,,,
reCurse: Even uttt would be a better time investment
reCurse: Marginally better though, much like refining hardcoded garbage
Astrobytes: :)
reCurse: The only plus is it's CPU doing most of the work
reCurse: The minus is it gets my office hot during summer
reCurse: So...
Astrobytes: Not really a choice is it :)
reCurse: Choice?
Astrobytes: Whether to run the CPU hot or not in summer
eulerscheZahl: homeoffice will be a pain in the summer :(
Snef: Yeah..
eulerscheZahl: my room is under the roof. usually i just darken the room before i go to work. but this time :scream:
Snef: buy/build an air conditioner :p
Astrobytes: It already is for me. It's been pretty hot and had the windows wide open, there's a huge dog lives in the house opposite and he barks constantly, sets off all the other dogs in the neighbourhood
Astrobytes: So I bake to death or get distracted to death by dogs
eulerscheZahl: i have neighbors with lawn mowers for that, no dog needed
Tiramon: noise is no problem i got wonderful headphones ;)
Astrobytes: Yeah, got that too. Don't mind so much, the dogs are way worse
Astrobytes: Yeah but it's not always practical to have the headphones on all the time Tiramon
eulerscheZahl: freedom for my ears, headphones make them sweaty
struct: You should use CPU on yinsh next
Tiramon: i bough some beyerdynamics not long ago ... never had sweaty ears with them
Astrobytes: The soft velvety ones?
Astrobytes: Well, cushioned
eulerscheZahl: as i'm alone in my "office" now, i just put everything on speaker
Astrobytes: Like the DT 770's Tiramon?
Tiramon: Astrobytes MMX300
Astrobytes: Ah gaming ones, sorry, I only know their studio range
Astrobytes: If they're anywhere close to the DT 770s in terms of comfort then it's gotta be good
Astrobytes: my AKGs are comfy but I need to listen out for phonecalls, doorbells etc
Tiramon: my wife does that for me when i have them on ;)
Astrobytes: Ah so that's what they're for. I'd better get one ASAP :P
reCurse: With such a proposal should be a done deal
Astrobytes: Hah. My last 2 exes would have murdered me if such things were expected of them.
Tiramon: she is sitting closer to the door anyway ...
Tiramon: and the last 5 years i was closer and had to walk
eulerscheZahl: i just figured out why I failed problem F at kotlin heroes :cry:
https://www.diffchecker.com/Wxlkh93T
Astrobytes: strategic relocation then Tiramon ;)
reCurse: diffchecker
reCurse: That's new to me
reCurse: Thanks
eulerscheZahl: only for sharing. I use meld offline
Tiramon: was her idea
Astrobytes: Even better
reCurse: Yeah I figured for the sharing part
Astrobytes: Oh dear eulerscheZahl, that's rough
reCurse: I really like vs code's diff
reCurse: Also my condolences on the input parsing
eulerscheZahl: me too. but i don't have VS on my private machine. only in office
reCurse: Reminds me when I messed up reading the second enemy pod in CSB and didn't notice for months
reCurse: vs code is free and light though
eulerscheZahl: i remember you said something like that for CSB
eulerscheZahl: i have VS code but almost never use it
reCurse: Strange
eulerscheZahl: i like my MonoDevelop
eulerscheZahl: even if it has some quirks
Astrobytes: lol, I bet it was simultaneously relieving and hugely irritating to discover that CSB input bug
eulerscheZahl: rightclick on file => open file location
and it crashed
reCurse: Isn't that abandoned
eulerscheZahl: no?
reCurse: Astrobytes: that day I jumped from top 20 to top 3
reCurse: Wasn't sure whether to be mad or happy
Astrobytes: hahaha, I can imagine
reCurse: Maybe I'm confusing with SharpDevelop
reCurse: Damn those names
eulerscheZahl: one of those started as a fork of the other
eulerscheZahl: don't ask me which was first
Astrobytes: Jeez
reCurse: Which was first?
Astrobytes: You totally asked for t hat
reCurse: Sorry I thought it was a "don't invite me to clash" thing
eulerscheZahl: last stable release: 7.6.9.22 / September 21, 2018; 20 months ago
reCurse: Which one
eulerscheZahl: hm, maybe it *is* abandoned...
eulerscheZahl: MonoDevelop
Astrobytes: For... ?
reCurse: Hah
Astrobytes: lel
reCurse: Guess I'm not that senile yet
struct: rip
eulerscheZahl: and SharpDevelop: 5.1.0 / 14 April 2016; 4 years ago
reCurse: I'm guessing it's also just a matter of time for Mono itself to be dead
eulerscheZahl: yeah, now that .net core is open source and runs on linux as well...
eulerscheZahl: that was the sole reason for Mono
Astrobytes: Which is a good thing really so... no real loss
reCurse: I like unity. The word not the engnie.
eulerscheZahl: the Ubuntu UI?
reCurse: sigh
reCurse: Except for web I've mostly given up on C#
Astrobytes: lol
reCurse: I made peace with C++
Astrobytes: Even for non-imgui GUI stuff?
351062: Aren't you on the "tools" team ? I though they were mostly developed in C#
reCurse: Yeah I'd use Qt over WPF *ANY* fucking day
reCurse: WPF can burn and die
reCurse: And then burn again
reCurse: And fly the ashes to another galaxy
reCurse: I'd sponsor that
reCurse: Neumann: That was another lifetime
reCurse: Things change
Neumann: About C# or the tools team ?
Astrobytes: hahaha, your feelings on the matter are very clear
reCurse: Both
Neumann: Ok, what are you working on atm ? If that's not secret
reCurse: I'm not disclosing that stuff in public anymore
reCurse: We can DM though
Astrobytes: Not disclosing you current role?
Astrobytes: Or project?
reCurse: Work in general
Astrobytes: Fair. One is entitled to at the very least a private work life.
AntiSquid: hey struct add some tags to your multi
struct: true ai?
AntiSquid: :thumbsup:
AntiSquid: True AI
Astrobytes: GAimax, Chokudai, True AI, Prune Array
struct: I guess I'll add minimax and mcts
struct: Dont know if anything else works
AntiSquid: wasn't there something like policy matrix mentioned by ceg? Astrobytes
AntiSquid: i def remember something matrix related
Astrobytes: Payoff matrix, for simultaneous 2-player minimax, yeah
Astrobytes: Insisted he had one, couldn't explain how he chose a move from it, then couldn't figure out if it was GA or minimax, then started asking how to understand Nash equilibria
Astrobytes: Along those lines
Astrobytes: Was a fun afternoon
AntiSquid: add Payoff matrix struct
Astrobytes: And all that time it was just a MC
AntiSquid: payoff matrix sounds more like scoring the possible moves ... nothing special
Astrobytes: Yeah it helps with minimaxing simultaneous 2 player games, I've never used it just read about it
Astrobytes: "Sequential games in normal form" that's the term I was looking for. Like XR
Astrobytes: Sure someone mentioned it in a PM for that
Astrobytes: Might help you out AntiSquid
Astrobytes: Don't ask me for advice though, I' not exactly an expert in game theory
AntiSquid: joli
AntiSquid: i am struggling with motivation to write anything Astrobytes, not with solving something
Astrobytes: Then it's time to move away from it and come back to it later at some point
AntiSquid: maybe
Astrobytes: When you're getting nothing from it, it's a no-brainer to move on elsewhere
Astrobytes: Work on some ML stuff
MostComplicatedUsername: ohhhh I realized why my bandas code isn't working
MostComplicatedUsername: I'm not taking into account the floor falling
jacek: but you take into account roof falling
Astrobytes: btw MostComplicatedUsername, don't get too excited about beating me. I saw your replay from earlier.
Here's my AI:
int m = r.getRandomInt(4);
struct: ups I dont output who won or lost
struct: or do I'
struct: nope
struct: I need to fix it
struct: :D
jacek: i still need to improve my bitboard for bandas
struct: you misspell Yinsh
Bobliu: are you supposed to get CP for optimization challenges?
struct: yeah
Astrobytes: It'll update later on
Neumann: Once per day, during the night (CET)
Astrobytes: XP is instantaneous, CP is as Neumann says
Astrobytes: (sorry for ping)
Bobliu: ohhh ok thanks
Bobliu: it updates later on
Astrobytes: jacek, you did something different in Oware?
struct: ok I think its finished
struct: messages also added
struct: I guess ill just add the line how to in statement
Astrobytes: Yinsh ish finshished?
Astrobytes: :trumpet: :tada: :rosette: :rocket:
struct: I think so
struct: Only touching it if someone finds bugs
Astrobytes: I didn't find any so far, I did a whole bunch of stupid inputs etc and seemed ok, moves seemed to be working fine. I mean I looked already in the contribution but double checked. Will let you know if there's anything untoward going on.
Astrobytes: *checked already
WINWINWIN: Wide margin between #2 and #3 in yinsh
WINWINWIN: 12 points
struct: yes, top 2 might have an ai
WINWINWIN: :D
Astrobytes: Indeed. Bunch of randoms and bestActions[0]/bestActions[actionCount-1]'s accounts for the rest
iboman: share ur code
struct: Now i must go to fr and advertise
Astrobytes: here iboman float tempValue = search(s, depth - 1, alpha, beta, ENEMY);
jacek: Astrobytes not much. i cached eval things so it is slightly faster
Astrobytes: Ah OK jacek
jacek: where do you initialize pruneArray
Astrobytes: after the search, just before you print the move
iboman: how do i calculate (in java) how many a square can split with the following input: 2x2 - output: 3
Astrobytes: Revolutionary method
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MostComplicatedUsername: Astrobytes I was being sarcastic
Astrobytes: As in the Trump definition of sarcasm or the actual definition?
MostComplicatedUsername: .
NViktor01: hello? somebody?
LelouchVC2: Somebody is here
LelouchVC2: You've called the right guy for the job
NViktor01: oh cool idk what i want
NViktor01: im so bad at coding
Astrobytes: Fix it
NViktor01: working on it
Astrobytes: That's the spirit :+1:
NViktor01: :upside_down:
NViktor01: these little puzzles are soo good
Astrobytes: Keep at it NViktor01
jacek: aww
Astrobytes: Fix your fixable things that need fixing jacek
jacek: but everything i do is perfect, no need to fix
Astrobytes: Perfect your perfection then.
NViktor01: then you sould really do my things perfect
Astrobytes: Only you have the power to do that NViktor01
NViktor01: oh goddamn i always knew im a superhero
Astrobytes: See? Now get to work.
NViktor01: ok boss
JBM: gaimax is true ai
Astrobytes: Only if you have an array of prunes
JBM: mmm prunes
Astrobytes: I actually think prunes > plums
Astrobytes: Don't get on with plums at all
Astrobytes: So JBM, what about having the overridable params in the Manual part of the IDE alongside the seed?
JBM: thay are
JBM: *they
Astrobytes: They weren't
JBM: yet they are
Astrobytes: Not seeing them? Tried reloading, clearing cache and 3 browsers
JBM: oh i can't *make* them appear
JBM: but you can set them
Astrobytes: what's the constraints on roadLength for it?
JBM: even, 0 to... don't remember
JBM: let's say 20
Astrobytes: Hi, sorry, I crashed
Astrobytes: Yes it works
Astrobytes: There's a way to display it though
Imsure1200q: Help: codingame is not running my code properly :/
Astrobytes: Codingame is running your improper code properly most likely ;)
Imsure1200q: But i've copy-pasted it on console and it works
Astrobytes: Did you change the default code in any way with regards to reading the inputs?
Astrobytes: Because that will really mess things up
Astrobytes: Or did you forget to output a newline a the end of your output?
Imsure1200q: Like the readline()? I simply split the input into an array. How can that mess it up? Also, a newline is definitely not the problem
Imsure1200q: Lets say the input is Hello World and the output is supposed to be olleH dlroW. If i run my code in Codingame, the output is Hello World, but if i run in console, it is olleH dlroW.
Astrobytes: JS?
Imsure1200q: yes
Imsure1200q: input is S, which is split into an array of words
Astrobytes: Paste your code here (don't worry) and someone who's into JS will help you
Imsure1200q: S.map(e=>(e.split().reverse().join()));
this works in console, not in codingame
nicholascc: what are codinpoints?
Astrobytes: Paste it all, just in case of an error elsewhere (happens a lot)
Imsure1200q: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a5af72ca-5cab-46e2-8fec-eef5bbb69732
Astrobytes: JBM, Vindinium runs on the SDK right?
JBM: i suppose
Imsure1200q: Is it a problem with a compiler / interpreter
Astrobytes: Imsure1200q try adding \n to your output
Illedan: Yes Vindinium runs on the SDK
Imsure1200q: That will worsen it. The objective is to reverse all words in a string, not add new lines to it
JBM: ok lemme try something
Astrobytes: Nice Illedan, JBM check the Vindinium src for how to dispaly the modifiable params
Imsure1200q: Also i cant add new lines because the time is up but i want to see why its like that
Astrobytes: Imsure1200q codingame requires a newline
Illedan: modifiable params?
Imsure1200q: It requires a new line? When does it require? Sometimes, i dont need one.
Astrobytes: Yeah, like map width etc, in the Options->Manual section of IDE Illedan, alongside the seed
Illedan: Oh, the grid?
Illedan: Oh, the numbers of players and settings
Illedan: Yeah, check referee class of Vindinium
Astrobytes: Yes settings
JBM: will not
struct: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/25775/codingame-sdk-documentation/game-manager
JBM: i'm trying this weirdly-named method
struct: scroll to game parameters
Astrobytes: Imsure1200q codingame uses newlines as termination of your output, if you don't supply it, then you'll fail
JBM: ok it compiles
JBM: so it's probably right
JBM: let's push to prod to check
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: The One True Method
Imsure1200q: I checked; its not related to the output. I did a console error to check if the reversal happened, and it did. But when i console-errored after the reversal of all the words (not individual, all), it went back to Hello World. There is no way that is related to the output.
Imsure1200q: The log when i checked the reversal
Hello World
Hello
olleH
Imsure1200q: World
dlroW
Hello World //afer all reversal
Imsure1200q: and then after that was the output
Astrobytes: This was a clash right?
Imsure1200q: How does splitting, reversing, and joining an array need a '\n'? Sorry its kinda triggering me
Imsure1200q: ya
Imsure1200q: *yes
JBM: Astrobytes: it's pushed, but i can't seem to make t work
Astrobytes: Your OUTPUT to CG requires a newline so it knows when you're finished
JBM: i get an empty manual or auto box
Astrobytes: I'd recommend pinging toad tomorrow, he'll set you right on it I think
Imsure1200q: Even if i put a newline after, still the same
Imsure1200q: Oh well its a very random error
Astrobytes: You need to assign the result of S.map to another vvar I think
Astrobytes: *var
Astrobytes: Expected output is 'olleH dlroW'?
Imsure1200q: haha im stupid (havent slept in quite a big time rn) oh well my bad
Imsure1200q: effects of sleeping at 5am everyday anyway thanks for telling me the mistake
Astrobytes: Sorry, I'm really not very up to speed with JS, or I might have been quicker
Astrobytes: Sleep is good ;)
LelouchVC2: JS is like coding with crayons
Imsure1200q: yes very
Imsure1200q: yeah but its also messy (at least the way i do it) so its kinda confusing for some people
Astrobytes: I don't *like* JS but it has it's uses, like most things
LelouchVC2: I was coding in JS for this construction company. As if the language wasn't bad enough, after I finished coding what they wanted they then told me to code it again differently
LelouchVC2: I was like, "wTf"
Imsure1200q: Well at least you can shorten your code like crazy thats the plus side of JS
Imsure1200q: but downside is your code becomes scribbles
Astrobytes: There's probably a shorter way than you did it, even with assigning to another var. But that's what you do in shortest mode in Clashes
Astrobytes: Code golfing
Astrobytes: I don't clash, personally
Imsure1200q: yes theres a very short way but the clash i was in fastest mode so i didnt care
Imsure1200q: all i cared was i got it in time
Imsure1200q: also what was the other mode than shortest and fastest
Astrobytes: Longest? Um.. I really don't remember tbh, I last clashed years ago :D
Imsure1200q: nvm its reverse
Imsure1200q: mode
Astrobytes: Thaaat's the one. Donno how I forgot that :shrug:
Astrobytes: I look at the contributions page frequently, I should know that. I blame lack of sleep. Even though I had plenty.
Astrobytes: Anyway Imsure1200q, it's almost 6am for you? Go to f***ing sleep!!
Imsure1200q: nah still energy
Imsure1200q: its my 6th quarter of school woohoo
Astrobytes: Well, good luck
Astrobytes: How old are you?
Imsure1200q: maybe 7am when its not noisy
Imsure1200q: so its like when you start puberty ;,)
Imsure1200q: u know what i mean
Astrobytes: Well, the advice I would give you is to get some sleep, and study well. Cause you're gonna need the knowledge.
Astrobytes: You can do all-nighters later when you have to, until then, stay up late but don't wreck your brain for the next day ;)
Imsure1200q: yes i need the sleep. but i couldn't sleep well because my homework is 100000
Imsure1200q: i needed to do like 3 homework every night so i ended up sleeping 4am - 5am straight each day for 2-3 weeks
Astrobytes: I will tell you right now, in terms of priorities, rn, homework > Codingame
Astrobytes: Start your homework earlier
Astrobytes: Then you have free time afterward
Astrobytes: Trust me
Imsure1200q: i dont need to do it rn because yesterday was my last day of school so i will do it when the time has come
Imsure1200q: my schools system doesn't even make sense
Astrobytes: No. Do it first. Then you have loads more free time and you don't need to rush at the last minute and stay up late.
Imsure1200q: I have one homework left :)
Astrobytes: That probably doesn't make sense for you at your age but trust me, it's wise advice
Imsure1200q: No it makes sense. I've tried fatigue from lack of sleep multiple times and when i sleep it feels good to rest
Imsure1200q: But the last homework is a two-hour lecture which confused me when i listened to it. i need to take notes, and because its confusing, it will take like four hours.
Astrobytes: Even tho' you still feel like you can do anything when you've been up for ages, your brain really isn't on point
Imsure1200q: my whole? family is awake because of the stress from my assignments as well
Imsure1200q: *whole
Imsure1200q: my brother is doing smth so i have to wait for that then i can go to sleep
Astrobytes: Right. My advice? More sleep. Less Codingame and other distractions until you got what you need to learn down properly. And then do the assignments. THEN you have time to chill, and don't need to stres your family ;)
Astrobytes: *stress
Imsure1200q: It's a long story and i cant explain it to you in this chat. But yeah we ended up stressing and stuff; its not my fault tho. Just some weird school stuff.
Astrobytes: Well, do the best you can OK?
Imsure1200q: yes i will :) but my brother still doing something so i'm not sure to go to sleep or not
Astrobytes: You can try ;)
Imsure1200q: like hes 1.2 years i think younger than me but hes still awake
Imsure1200q: all because of school
Imsure1200q: hes not even puberty thats how messed up it is
Astrobytes: I'm out, I'm gonna watch something and have some food. Best of luck to you Imsure1200q
(sounds like your school system is stressful :( )
Burak05: anyone can help me with a small problem in scala?
Astrobytes: I understand. Testing kids real hard doesn't do much good. Take care buddy
Imsure1200q: Very. I know that some other americans (mm.. collegeboard) experience stress. But yeah its (i lost what i was about to say)
Imsure1200q: Okay
Astrobytes: And get that sleep!
Imsure1200q: yes i will becuse the sun is bright
Imsure1200q: beginning to hate it
Imsure1200q: alright my energy is -10% and im like a zombie now so ill stop chatting i guess
MichaelHamilton: Hi, noobie here! I'm trying to code a bot to play a game on this site and one of my functions isn't working. Normally to troubleshoot I start my variables in messages to try to figure out where the problem is.
For the games though, as soon as I print something that isn't a valid instruction for the game, the program stops.
I'm coding in c# if that makes a difference...
MichaelHamilton: is there someway i can get a message to be telling myself what the variables are without the program reading it as a move for my turn?
Scarfield: use error prints :)
Scarfield: // Write an action using Console.WriteLine()
// To debug: Console.Error.WriteLine("Debug messages...");
MichaelHamilton: oooo okay thank you!
MichaelHamilton: thats exactly what i was looking for
Scarfield: np :) normal print statements are handles as your output, so they have to be a valid action. Error prints are not handled though, but you can possibly timeout if you print enough of them, that takes quite a lot though
Scarfield: handled*
MichaelHamilton: yeah it makes perfect sense :) i just didn't know the function Console.Error.WriteLine
Found my bug and I'm back to it now :)
Scarfield: nice :muscle:
MichaelHamilton: okay now I'm timing out. Any tips to troubleshoot that?
Snef: check how much time your functions uses
Snef: you need to not spend more than X ms
Snef: X depending on the game
MichaelHamilton: how do you check that?
Snef: use timer
MichaelHamilton: is there like a function we can use to time our code?
Snef: I don't do c# but you can check google
MichaelHamilton: okay i'll google it. thanks
Snef: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.diagnostics.stopwatch?redirectedfrom=MSDN&view=netcore-3.1
MichaelHamilton: oh that is perfect. Thank you! :)
Embedded: hi
MichaelHamilton: hi
Bae_Wada: hello
ArianPunk: Hi, anyone would want to answer my question regarding the ANEO puzzle?
