dsetzer: bye
mauricioxDxP: size doesnt mean everything
WaRiOrOfCoDe: konichiwa
beajifu: :nerd:
nishantsinha: hi there
nishantsinha: code on
Philbot: hi here
MadKnight: hi where
phiyenv: hi
Platiniom64: guys am I the only one that has some ieses with the vieing of games? sometimes after coding, the screen goes black
Platiniom64: and the only option is to releaod the page
Platiniom64: do you guys know what a solution could be?
darkhorse64: Mischief achieved. I beat eulerscheZahl at its own game
darkhorse64: *his*
faisalwani: hi
Uljahn: Platiniom64: the solution is to update your browser and download more ram
SeebOmega:
j25huang You re welcome for the push in GoD :P
eulerscheZahl: return of the contest :o
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/crystal-rush
eulerscheZahl: damn darkhorse64, uncool
darkhorse64: MSmits is also preparing a bot. The leaderboard is going to smoke
eulerscheZahl: no, smits will get distracted very soon
eulerscheZahl: won't beat me this month
struct: why do you say that?
eulerscheZahl: my left knee itches
Illedan: :D
struct: I see :thinking:
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: you found it before [CG]Thibaud announced it on #fr
dbdr: monitoring the HTML? ;)
[CG]Thibaud: I announced it on Discord before
[CG]Thibaud: :grin:
dbdr: I preferred my version ;)
[CG]Thibaud: discussion about the challenge and the release report was live there
[CG]Thibaud: hehe
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: hitting Ctrl-R every 5 minutes for 6 months :D
Illedan: Nah, he has a script checking every 10 ms
dbdr: true, eulerscheZahl automates
struct: Is it me or the letters colors dont really look good?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/18F4Ng1.png
dbdr: a bit hard to read, but does not shock me
[CG]Thibaud: let's go: https://www.codingame.com/contests/ocean-of-code
Illedan: :rocket:
Astrobytes: lol wot
struct: nice nice
struct: :D
struct: 1 month damn
struct: If I dont get legend I delete
eulerscheZahl: bye
Illedan: Not again
Astrobytes: shush struct :D
struct: wait let me see the game first
struct: :p
eulerscheZahl: you have 2.5h to make guesses about the game
dbdr: marathon!
eulerscheZahl: a sports game?
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: Illedan, you kept a good secret
dbdr: or I missed it :D
Illedan: We started 2 days ago :P
dbdr: wow
eulerscheZahl: CG had a prototype
Astrobytes: Good job guys
dbdr: and made a game that has depth for a month?
Astrobytes: "depth" heh heh
eulerscheZahl: had to update to new SDK version and add some parts, but a huge part was finished
dbdr: ah ok
dbdr: anyways, it's cool, thanks for doing it!
eulerscheZahl: complains about missing infos in the statement go to me
eulerscheZahl: so i can forward to :trash: :D
eulerscheZahl: :trashbin:
struct: :smiling_imp:
dbdr: complaint: I can't see the statement
eulerscheZahl: for the FR version we just replaced all "the" by "le" and added an "e" to the end of some words
struct: lol
wlesavo: wow
darkhorse64: You should have asked me for translation :innocent:
wlesavo: gonna be my first contest
struct: maybe put link on discord [CG]Thibaud?
wlesavo: its on a front page
struct: ok I see he is typing on annoucements
struct: channel created
[CG]Thibaud: incoming
struct: :thumbsup:
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: CGPlagueInc?
eulerscheZahl: sorry, i forgot
eulerscheZahl: luckily my bad memory allows me to participate as a regular contestant
dbdr: :D
dbdr: if you started 2 days ago and it lasts a month, fair enough
dbdr: just stop submitting 2 days before the end ;)
Illedan: haha
eulerscheZahl: i don't even have a bot yet (this part is true)
dbdr: which part isn't true?
eulerscheZahl: that i forgot the game
dbdr: " Are there any prizes to win? In the current situation, we're unable to ensure the delivery of prizes to winners. "
dbdr: masks with the CG logo would be a cool collector item
eulerscheZahl: even RAIC prize shipping got delayed
eulerscheZahl: they sent a mail that they will start shiiping in 2 weeks or so
eulerscheZahl: and shortly after: delayed
dbdr: [CG]Thibaud said on #fr that this was decided because of the containment situation, that is really nice!
eulerscheZahl: i don't even know much of the background
only that CG wanted a contest really soon
eulerscheZahl: and that illedan got crazy to make it happen
wlesavo: finished bnc just in time :slight_smile:
Illedan: :angel:
wlesavo: btw have this brilliant strategy https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440851995
Illedan: Can't see that replay
blasterpoard: change share-replay to replay in the link
struct: oh they really changed
struct: it use to change alone
struct: if you were not the owner
G-Rom: bug
dbdr: I can see it
eulerscheZahl: toad strategy https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440852767
eulerscheZahl: i could watch that replay too
struct: Yeah I can watch
struct: but had to remove share-
dbdr: wlesavo yay, you got 100%! :)
eulerscheZahl: my first 100% had a score above 2000 :D
dbdr: wow
eulerscheZahl: and the solver for 1..7 digits is almost unchanged
wlesavo: yeah, implemented that swap 2 digits/check greedy algo
eulerscheZahl: so you can imagine my efficiency for larger numbers
wlesavo: took me like 10 min
dbdr: strange that it works well now
dbdr: only change was efficiency?
eulerscheZahl: yes, mostly
eulerscheZahl: and better number selection, but that's like 320->304
eulerscheZahl: my best offline run was 290, average around 314-316
wlesavo: also finished both vox codeis, wanted to do that for quite some time, so now im up and ready for contest
dbdr: I had a 27x, from memory
wlesavo: eulerscheZahl in offlines do you generate secret randomly?
eulerscheZahl: meanwhile it was announced today that we have to stay at home in Bavaria (part of Germany where I live) as well
eulerscheZahl: yes, random secret fixed at turn 1
dbdr: with a change that seems better locally but worse online
eulerscheZahl: i know it's different to your game
wlesavo: that could be an issue
dbdr: so probably the fixed responses matter
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: perfect timing
wlesavo: i guess i can make number of b/c in validators public
eulerscheZahl: but 1 month? i hope i can go outside before
dbdr: I saw doubling of deaths in 1 day in germany, crazy if that continues. so sounds like a good idea
eulerscheZahl: at some point we are all dead, then it has to stop :D
dbdr: in france you can go outside for exercise, alone, just don't get close to other people
dbdr: exact
eulerscheZahl: right, here too
eulerscheZahl: you can go for a walk alone or with your family
struct: Is it everywhere in france like that?
dbdr: yes
struct: I saw in news that you must write a paper to go outside in france
dbdr: right
struct: its true?
JBM: yes
eulerscheZahl: dbdr do you live in france or hungary?
dbdr: hungary
dbdr: but family in france, so I follow
JBM: how's it going in hungary then?
eulerscheZahl: ah. did you live there before? you seem fluent in that language
dbdr: I'm not fluent, intermediary level. I live there for a long time but use more english
JBM: you read fluent
dbdr: 75 cases, 1 death in HU
dbdr: all of western and northern europe has much more than the east
darkhorse64: dbdr is kidding. He speaks French so well that I believed the Hungarian flag was a fake
dbdr: not fluent *in hungarian* :)
struct: I just cant understand how china numbers stopped growing so fast
dbdr: french is my mother tongue, I hope I read fluent :D
JBM: ok it's your english that's unclear :p
dbdr: thanks :D
dbdr: struct: very strict measures
dbdr: it worked amazingly indeed
darkhorse64: Chinese stats are driven by politics
JBM: all stats are
dbdr: there were international inspectors there. it's not all fake
dbdr: WHO
dbdr: of course it's also politics, as everywhere
struct: I also see that japan still wanna host Olympics
JBM: it's in quite some time
JBM: they can just quarantine everyone
darkhorse64: Local testimonies seem to imply it was worse than publicly reported. That may explain why Italy is so severely struck
dbdr: Illedan, eulerscheZahl: do you know if the game is what was planned for May?
dbdr: answer: no
JBM: where did you read that answer?
JBM: oh got it
Tiramon: uuuuh ... new contest
dbdr: #fr. in case you read french well enough ;)
JBM: still working on it
Tiramon: dbdr google translate does read it for me ;)
dbdr: Tiramon: you can even use https://cg.spdns.eu/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Fr%2F&namespace=3000 to avoid copy-pasting
dbdr: only works for past days though
dbdr: not live yet :)
Tiramon: chrome has a translation of websites included dbdr ... no need to copy paste
dbdr: I know
dbdr: but how else do you see the Fr chat on a webpage? ah, it works in the webchat too?
Tiramon: yes it does
dbdr: strange, does not work for me on #ru
dbdr: while it works on other pages
struct: good gold on utg
struct: insta promotion
struct: seems like timers are equal to before
struct: you get insta promotion no waiting
struct: is this intended [CG]Thibaud?
dbdr: yes
eulerscheZahl: awesome
eulerscheZahl: damn, cat just puked :/
[CG]Thibaud: hum not really struct
struct: i got promoted from wood with no waiting time
struct: to bronze
struct: ´to silver
struct: and now to gold
[CG]Thibaud: you didn't participate in the contest ?
dbdr: wat?
Scarfield: Ocean of Code? When was this made public, didnt notice it yesterday
struct: yes but not on this account
struct: on my deleted account I did
dbdr: either he did and he should not start in wood, or he didn't and how could he write a gold bot this fast?
SmellyPickle: just announced it on discord like 2 minutes ago
psyral: I think it's new. I just saw it posted on the Discord channel a few minutes ago
dbdr: ^ explained :D
Scarfield: ah okay, wondered if i had somehow missed it for weeks or something :)
Astrolopitheque: lets program
struct: not now
struct: in 1:45 hours yes
Scarfield: An early thank you for the creators of Ocean of Code :) There will hopefully be many hours of fun for all of us :)
dbdr: indeed. and 0 bugs so far ;)
psyral: This is a 1 MONTH contest!
dbdr: yes, a 1 month contest that lasts 10 days :D
Illedan: :D
psyral: 10 days? it says March 20 to April 20
dbdr: yes, it also says "The contest is open for 10 consecutive days. "
dbdr: but I think the dates are the correct info
JBM: typical
Illedan: 1 month are correct
dbdr: it's the trilogy in 7 volumes all over again
dbdr: maybe CG knows something and many dates will be cancelled because of the pandemic
JBM: let's ban may
JBM: we've got the best months in the world, lemme telle you that
JBM: top notch months. the chinese months pale in regard
dbdr: many people say so
JBM: the very best months. let's use only those
MadKnight: let's ban months
struct: let's ban time
MadKnight: and space
dbdr: "The Julian reform <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar> made 46 BC 445 days long"
3709773: pidgin test ... test test
PatrickMcGinnisII: wth is going on ocean?
PatrickMcGinnisII: huh?
Illedan: Contest starting today :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: out of left field, i did not know
Illedan: Was just announced
PatrickMcGinnisII: moved to 1pm EST?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I guess i logged in at the right time
Illedan: It lasts for 1 month :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: so, by Illedan ....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Illedan: hmm what? :P
struct: hmm, contest is ocean
struct: your pic is in ocean
PatrickMcGinnisII: i couldn't think of anything smartass to say
struct: toad belong in ocean
psyral: If you refresh the page. It now says "The contest is open for 1 entire month."
struct: rom has ocean pic
PatrickMcGinnisII: so give us the dope on OOC Illedan
eulerscheZahl: i can give you OOP
dbdr: Ocean Of Poop?
Whatelse: do what you want cause a pirate is free, YOU ARE A PIRATE
Philbot: OOF
Philbot: C is silent
IanCognito: The sea is silent? But I heard you can hear it inside a Shell?
Philbot: 3 sea shells ?
IanCognito: Yeah C Shell
JBM: oh my, i've used csh before and never noticed the pun
dbdr: in the ocean, nobody can hear you code
dbdr: I haven't either :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: we shall release baby yoda on eulerscheZahl for his OOP jokes
IanCognito: I object to OOP
wlesavo: the question is can you hardcode the water or not
eulerscheZahl: wouldn't it be ice then?
wlesavo: i guess there is some ice in the water
BenjaminUrquhart: I can finally fix my radar bug
PatrickMcGinnisII: IanCognito that would make you classless
IanCognito: lol
Philbot: why is it a full month?
IanCognito: Nope I'm just an anonymous type
BenjaminUrquhart: eulerscheZahl you are your own shrine
IanCognito: hence my name
BenjaminUrquhart: Philbot just roll with it
BenjaminUrquhart: :)
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/ocean-of-code-bugs/167531
bugs thread already open, that gives room for optimism :D
wlesavo: eulerscheZahl btw, how does one makes multi into a contest?
eulerscheZahl: only CG staff can do that
Philbot: not reporting bugs, benj told me to just roll with it
wlesavo: i mean how it is decided
PatrickMcGinnisII: I am me, anyone can come knock on my door if they got problems... I'll show them my Soylent Green cookbook. ;)
eulerscheZahl: Thibaud wanted a game, that's how it started
BenjaminUrquhart: "The referee code is publicly available on Github"
- repo is private
eulerscheZahl: will be public when the contest starts
struct: contest hasnt started
BenjaminUrquhart: fair
wlesavo: oh i see, so basically he came up to you directly?
eulerscheZahl: yes
PatrickMcGinnisII: referee code 404, awe dman
Philbot: any replays leaking ?
eulerscheZahl: asked if i have a game ready - but that was my TD game which i've already released (not sure if it would make a good contest anyways)
Illedan: TD would be fun for a weekend
eulerscheZahl: i think the current game is a better candidate for a contest than TD would have been
Illedan: Yeah, this has more depth to it than I thought.
Illedan: So much to look into and play with
PatrickMcGinnisII: Should i pull out the dusty java books or am i ok to be mediocre with php eulerscheZahl?
BenjaminUrquhart: :eyes:
BenjaminUrquhart: sPoIlErS
Philbot: not all bugs fixed TM
eulerscheZahl: depends on your approach PatrickMcGinnisII
PatrickMcGinnisII: sandbox is for cats
eulerscheZahl: it's not as CPU heavy as UTTT
Illedan: Depends what you want to do
PatrickMcGinnisII: which i didn't finish lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: 2 days ago i rewired half my house, yesterday i setup a 3d printer and a cnc machine to go with my laser... so now instead of playing with them, I guess I'll torture you all
Philbot: you can 3D print anything!!!
Philbot: print the internet
PatrickMcGinnisII: well people here are printing some kinda venturi tube for ventilators for infected people...weird, but DIY to the rescue
Philbot: a community puzzle, a new multi and a contest, what a time to be alive
sayuri: hey everyone. who did the approx(double[][] pts) Pi Approximation excercice in java ?
eulerscheZahl: which community puzzle?
Itayayay: Anyone else getting Internal Server error when trying to register?
sayuri: it's a Java test
TorgardTheAwkwardPoet: Yes, also getting the internal error.
Illedan: They are looking into it
BenjaminUrquhart: sayuri link?
[CG]Thibaud: you can register again Itayayay
Hjax: wait theres a new contest starting TODAY?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: so, contest or UTG?
Hjax: what a pleasant surprise
Hjax: i only need a few hours to implement my wanted changes to my UTG bot
Hjax: its mostly just smarter radar placement and id abuse (unless they fixed it?)
eulerscheZahl: 1 month for the new contest, no need to hurry
Hjax: can the developers of the contest compete in it?
eulerscheZahl: yes
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
Hjax: this contest is going to be super difficult, everyone is home with infinite time
eulerscheZahl: we only have an advantage of 2 days
eulerscheZahl: i don't even have a bot yet
BenjaminUrquhart: they usually aren't eligible for prizes though
Illedan: We can win it though
struct: as you should
struct: 2 days advantage is nothing
Hjax: are there prizes for community contests?
struct: and even if it was more
struct: I think its still fair
Illedan: This one only has Fame and glory and CP. Which is more valuable :D
BenjaminUrquhart:
Are there any prizes to win?
In the current situation, we're unable to ensure the delivery of prizes to winners.
eulerscheZahl: there were for older ones
but for now there are no prizes announced/planned here
PatrickMcGinnisII: if the contest is any good they should get developer plaques or something... I can make them for nuthin
Hjax: since UTG was the first contest i took seriously, i have a lot of CP to gain by doing well here
[CG]Thibaud: we'll find something
eulerscheZahl: UTG had expensive prizes (3000€ for the winner)
Illedan: :tada:
eulerscheZahl: before it was 20 tshirts + artwork for top3
BenjaminUrquhart: gosh dang it 10 minutes until the contest starts and I found out why CodinBot-Relay has broken avatars
BenjaminUrquhart: >.>
eulerscheZahl: a 30x40cm wall painting
BenjaminUrquhart: aaaaaa
Hjax: my goal in utg was to get a t-shirt, which i did, i guess my goal in ocean of code will be to place higher than i did in UTG
struct: my goal is not to delete account
Hjax: i believe in you struct
BenjaminUrquhart: yeah the account is going bye
BenjaminUrquhart: sorry
BenjaminUrquhart: I don't believe
BenjaminUrquhart: don't judge me like that
Hjax: is reCurse playing in this one
BenjaminUrquhart: ask him
eulerscheZahl: i guess it depends on the game and if he likes it
Hjax: i was kind of sad he didnt play UTG
Hjax: even though him playing would have almost certainly cost me 1 rank
eulerscheZahl: you know him from halite, right?
programjames: Have you done Battlecode before?
Hjax: i have done battlecode
Hjax: made finals one year, placed 9th-12th
Hjax: team name: When I'm GM
tobk: hm, no XP for Crystal Rush instant League promotions? just asking...
struct: no
eulerscheZahl: nope
programjames: Cool. Do you like Battlecode or these competitions more?
Hjax: about the same programjames
Hjax: i didnt use this site for a long time because i didnt like the UI
Hjax: which was kind of a stupid reason, and now i regret all of the contests i missed
eulerscheZahl: but CG improved a lot
programjames: I haven't really done many competitions here... I don't like the UI :)
programjames: (As much)
Hjax: i knew of recurse from halite yeah, i only really played halite 3 for the first week though
BenjaminUrquhart: "{"id":-3,"message":"Service not found: search.search(2)"}"
Hjax: peaked at rank 14 or so? then got bored of the game
BenjaminUrquhart: time to find search endpoint again
Hjax: @programjames youll get over it fast
BenjaminUrquhart: oh there's a third param now
BenjaminUrquhart: eeee
Hjax: whatcha doin ben
BenjaminUrquhart: fixing the codingame discord bot
BenjaminUrquhart: I have 2 minutes to do it
Hjax: lol
Hjax: new clash of code, fix the discord bot
dbdr: go go go BenjaminUrquhart
GOLD.D.ROGER: what we have to do in tthis competition
Nixerrr: No sleep till legend
Hjax: rules in 2 minutes
dbdr: first logged contest :)
Beast_99: :grinning:
Hjax: @GOLD.D.ROGER
GOLD.D.ROGER: k
dbdr: Nixerrr arf :D
BenjaminUrquhart: I BROKE THE WEBHOOKS AAA
eulerscheZahl: *wood rules in 2min
Nixerrr: :smile_cat:
Hjax: oh does this game have multiple rulesets
eulerscheZahl: 1 new league each week
Illedan: lol
Hjax: UTG didnt, so i kind of assumed they had given up on it
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: inb4, each league is an entirely different game :D
GOLD.D.ROGER: did anyone participate before
eulerscheZahl: have fun staying awake till legend Nixerrr
Illedan: There are 3 sets of rules
Nixerrr: I've got a lot of coffee :D
blasterpoard: how many wood leagues?
Illedan: 2
eulerscheZahl: 2 wood, 1 bronze
Hjax: one rule set per week? pretty slow
Illedan: Nah
Illedan: You get all today
Illedan: if you rank to Bronze, that is
eulerscheZahl: full rules on day 1 after promotion
GOLD.D.ROGER: here we go
Hjax: ah ok cool
Sheepolution: Gooo
dbdr: glhf
eulerscheZahl: then silver opens next week, then gold, ...
eulerscheZahl: start
BenjaminUrquhart: yeet
Nixerrr: gogogogo
dbdr: cotc with square grid :D
BenjaminUrquhart: nice boss
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440872355
Waffle3z: lol I beat the boss without writing any code
Hjax: lol the game is about submarines? now im honorbound to win it
Hjax: i work for electric boat, which makes submarines
BenjaminUrquhart: I love how everyone instantly submitted the template
dbdr: looks twisted, IIUC
BenjaminUrquhart: The following table shows, how different actions will be shown to your opponent:
TODO: along with screenshot, as this table uses concrete examples and isn't abstract?
Hjax: this game looks super fun
dbdr: TODO :D
Hjax: grid based, imperfect information, my favorite
Illedan: Lol dbdr. Yeah :o
blasterpoard: A torpedo requires 3 charge actions to be ready. = cooldown of 3 turns?
Hjax: when you move you pick an ability to charge blasterpoard
Illedan: You have to charge it blasterpoard
Hjax: so you need to charge torpedo 3 times
Hjax: before you can shoot
blasterpoard: thx
Illedan: By using MOVE dir TORPEDO
blasterpoard: reading too fast
Illedan: the last one is what power to charge
Illedan: you get 4 powers in total later
PJA: captain sonar?
Illedan: ye
Hjax: this game is super cool, i love it already
PJA: such a good board game
BenjaminUrquhart: LMAO I got promoted by doing nothing
Hjax: the abilitys are torpedo, sonar, silence, and mine btw
Waffle3z: same
Nixerrr: BenjaminUrquhart Same
Hjax: judging by the screenshot
Hjax: the explanation of shooting a torpedo is unclear
MSmits: holy sht... did a contest just start out of the blue (pun intended)
Hjax: does it detonate instantly? whats this stuff about a path?
BenjaminUrquhart: MSmits yes
Illedan: Yes MSmits
Hjax: basically smits, i learned about it 20 minutes ago
Illedan: Instantly
Illedan: Hjax
Hjax: welcome to the party
MSmits: thanks, you too
Hjax: ok whats the path thing mean then
blasterpoard: is the torpedo range is not manhattan distance, I think
Illedan: BFS
Illedan: Around islands (not across)
Hjax: so i can shoot anywhere within 4 manhattan distance?
blasterpoard: no
Hjax: not counting islands*
Marchete: hello people!
Illedan: Hi
blasterpoard: anywhere you can reach in 4 turns
Illedan: Correct
Hjax: yeah thats what i meant, i worded it poorly
MSmits: Marchete there is a contest and you have a month
Hjax: ok i see
Illedan: Marchete might join :o
MSmits: yeah
Marchete: yeah I've just received an email
MSmits: I told them, don't forget Marchete
Marchete: :rofl:
Marchete: you know I barely play challenges
MSmits: yes, but this is a month long one
Illedan: 1 month is enough right?
MSmits: no excuses!
Marchete: yeah
MSmits: good way to get some cp
blasterpoard: 1 month of this... another metagame hell
Marchete: maybe the mood
MSmits: blasterpoard, my advice, get a sim going, set up a bunch of different bot types, take a 2 week break, then enter the meta
eulerscheZahl: MSmits fix your onitama :D
MSmits: yeah... that's gonna have to wait, i was almost done too :P
Hjax: MSmits you didnt play UTG right?
blasterpoard: MSmits my advice - get to the top early, make the meta, then test against your own bot when other sopy it
blasterpoard: *copy
MSmits: Hjax, no, i lost motivation after a few days
Illedan: Nice strat
Astrobytes: lol, you were correct about distracting MSmits eulerscheZahl :D
MSmits: i was in it for about half the time
eulerscheZahl: as i said: he won't beat me this month
MSmits: beat you at what?
eulerscheZahl: onitama
Astrobytes: Onitama
MSmits: probably not no
Hjax: does the map wrap around?
darkhorse64: I did it
MSmits: though, it depends on the contest
Illedan: No Hjax
eulerscheZahl: no torus map
MSmits: you beat euler darkhorse64?
darkhorse64: yes
MSmits: grats
darkhorse64: I finished my bot yesterday
eulerscheZahl: thanks for playing :)
MSmits: though, if you beat euler, you must also beat royale, otherwise you interfere with the race for nr 1
eulerscheZahl: no royale in that game
MSmits: this is the rule
MSmits: oh ok
darkhorse64: Been tuning today. Early playout termination works
inoryy: a contest :o
MSmits: good to know
eulerscheZahl: an inoryy :o
MSmits: yeah
PatrickMcGinnisII: how are 25 people already submitting?
eulerscheZahl: submit default code
PatrickMcGinnisII: and why? i guess boss needs a boost
Illedan: Boss was broken for 5 min :P
Illedan: So someone made it through
eulerscheZahl: boss was broken, but fixed
something went wrong creating the contest
LordGrimmauld: What should i do? Full game engine with Monte Carlo, like the Stockfish cess engines?
Hjax: hard to be stockfish with imperfect information
blasterpoard: monte carlo doesn't look right here
MSmits: that's going to be interesting
MSmits: I'm not used to imperfect information games
eulerscheZahl: get the full rules before you decide
struct: full rules bronze?
Marchete: there are more rules?
reCurse: Hjax Still working, did not have time to check yet. But I will only participate if the game motivates me enough.
dbdr: </spoiler> :)
Marchete: great...
eulerscheZahl: bronze = final rules
Marchete: I said great
Marchete: nvm thanks for your effort"
Marchete: !
LordGrimmauld: I think a code that tries not to surface will get me to bronze
Illedan: Not sure about that
Illedan: Too easy to find
eulerscheZahl: the boss will chase you
MSmits: I'm already loving this game
blasterpoard: what is the time limit? is it in the bronze rules?
MSmits: just from reading the description
reCurse: Can you paste the bronze statement please
Illedan: 50 ms
eulerscheZahl: damn
Illedan: 1 sec first round
eulerscheZahl: i forgot that
blasterpoard: thx
Illedan: So 1 sec to find a good place to start
eulerscheZahl: and illedan added it to our TODO 5s before me
Illedan: :rocket:
Marchete: MOVE direction POWER
Marchete: power?
Illedan: Torpedo
Illedan: in this league
eulerscheZahl: continue reading
Illedan: then SONAR, SILENCE
Illedan: and then MINE
eulerscheZahl: MINE
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
PJA: will the engineer part of the game will be included?
PJA: of the board game
eulerscheZahl: yes
Illedan: No
Illedan: oh
Marchete: is that a board game then?
eulerscheZahl: wait, what did the engineer do?
Illedan: I should read the rules better
Illedan: Captain Sonar Marchete
PJA: the engineer need to brake abilitys
reCurse: Bronze statement anyone? :'(
Ajurna: i feel like the rules are missing some detial
MSmits: probably a good idea to start this one in C# and then move to c++ if it's really necessary right euler?
inoryy: is anyone even in bronze atm
struct: reCurse https://github.com/CodinGameCommunity/ocean-of-code/blob/master/config/statement_en.html.tpl
reCurse: Thanks <3
struct: https://github.com/CodinGameCommunity/ocean-of-code/blob/master/config/level3/statement_en.html
struct: maybe this one?
eulerscheZahl: yes
Illedan: Ajurna, yeah it might miss some detail. But feel free to ask and we will clearify + update the statement :)
Eclipse_Storm: lol Captain Sonar <3
Hjax: ok cool i read the full problem statement
Hjax: i very much like this game
inoryy: semicolon not used for action separation, literally unplayable
LordGrimmauld: the "|" is just fine
Marchete: I like pipe more for separation
eulerscheZahl: and x instead of # for islands
Marchete: savages!
yfprojects: I feel like the input for each turn has some mistakes or needs further explainations in Wood 2
blasterpoard: do you visit all the cells you move throguh when you use silence, or only the last one?
eulerscheZahl: all
LordGrimmauld: silence would be a bit broken otherwise
Hjax: mines dont trigger other mines right?
eulerscheZahl: right
Illedan: No
PatrickMcGinnisII: ok, Ocean of social distancing ...
Hjax: ok cool, its not UTG 2.0
MSmits: Gonna tip my students about this contest, see if I can get 1 or 2 of them in here
Marchete: they are in quarantine?
Marchete: are they*
eulerscheZahl: yes
MSmits: everyone is to some degree I guess
eulerscheZahl: no school
Marchete: I mean real real
Hjax: man this contest is like xmas came early
Hjax: im so excited
eulerscheZahl: great
MSmits: well they can go outside, but schools, restaurants, bars etc. all closed
Marchete: we can't go out
Marchete: only for basic needs
MSmits: thats a dumb decision tbh
Astrobytes: Looks like an interesting game, very nice
Marchete: like buying food
Marchete: not at all
Marchete: Ì realized people is dumb
inoryy: haven't been outside for like a week now, send help
MSmits: will take years for the virus to disappear that way..
inoryy: or actually don't
Marchete: health facilites are saturated
Hjax: regardless of the virus, its not like i would be going outside anyway, theres a contest to be won
Marchete: you can't just let all get sick at once
MSmits: ah yes, in Spain it's different
Marchete: and Italy
MSmits: you have too many cases already
eulerscheZahl: there is a contest because of Corona Hjax
Marchete: but don't think other countries are special
MSmits: Hjax has cause and effect confused
Marchete: once it enters buses and metro
Marchete: it's a pandemic
MSmits: it is cultural also
Marchete: maybe too
MSmits: in italy people eat together with the whole family, including grandparents
Marchete: I saw on norway people far away in buses
Marchete: like 2 meters
eulerscheZahl: and stocks going down -> companies laying off people
eulerscheZahl: that always helps populist parties
inoryy: but everyone being sick hurts populist parties
Marchete: but just don't think it's limited to some countries
MSmits: I know
Marchete: and not completely cultural, I can see UK metro as the same propagation vector than on Madrid
PatrickMcGinnisII: local financial advisor got on FB bitching about his life...he just lost his people millions from their retirement plans, i hope he shoots himself
Marchete: or any major metro
MSmits: what i dont understand is this: Why forbid people from taking walks
MSmits: just walking around is not going to infect anyone
Marchete: because people behave like children
MSmits: it makes you healthier
PatrickMcGinnisII: f'in bankers want bailouts...loosers
yfprojects: Does a weapon loose its charge over time in OOC?
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: except if you use it
mel-mouk: MSmith because people don't respect the rules, in France people are using the "walk allowed" rules too meet up
PatrickMcGinnisII: UV kills viruses
MSmits: I am going to the park with my wif eand daughter in an hour or so... just a walk, we avoid people = no problem
Scarfield: "Have more lifes than your enemy at the end of the game."
I cant find where it says the max amount of turns?
eulerscheZahl: uhm, damn
inoryy: end of universe, duh
Hjax: lose conditions dont mention a timeout
PatrickMcGinnisII: yesterday winds were like 20mph, so fake news released "virus spread by wind"...*insert %^^&**((&" here
eulerscheZahl: Output an invalid command or don't respond in time.
eulerscheZahl: got you Hjax
Hjax: i mean a turn timeout
BenjaminUrquhart: 1 sec for first
BenjaminUrquhart: 50 ms others
Hjax: like, have less health after 100 rounds
MSmits: You cannot move on a cell you already visited before
eulerscheZahl: Scarfield just said that
MSmits: seems like a natural limit
Hjax: unless you surface first @MSmits
Hjax: surfacing resets it, but gives your opponent info
BenjaminUrquhart: unless you surface, but you lose health then
duckymirror: That's a bug, isn't it? https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440881032
MSmits: yeah, so no turn limit is necessary
eulerscheZahl: i think it's 400 frames
MSmits: it will always end on its own
Illedan: duckymirror, 7 7 is on an Island
BenjaminUrquhart: ^
Illedan: You can't start there
Hjax: oh there is a turn limit?
MSmits: no
duckymirror: Oh, it says output...
eulerscheZahl: tbh no submarine survived long enough for me to know
Hoyer: I agree with MSmits it seems to have a natural limit
Illedan: 300 I think
duckymirror: Sorry...
Illedan: :P
AntiSquid: oh damn it's that game lol
eulerscheZahl: cantain sonar
eulerscheZahl: surprise
MSmits: hjax, well just calculate how many free spaces there are, then multiple by x lives
Hjax: oh i see, i guess you have to surface eventually
AntiSquid: wish i would have worked on that bot back then now :(
eulerscheZahl: back then it was incomplete
duckymirror: Oh, looks like I missed something in the rules...
Scarfield: There is a natural limit, but the line: "Have more lifes than your enemy at the end of the game." implies that there is a max turn count
eulerscheZahl: only wood2 rules
aCat: TODO: along with screenshot, as this table uses concrete examples and isn't abstract?
aCat: final rules i see ;-)
eulerscheZahl: ignore that
MSmits: Scarfield suggest... more likely
Illedan: Ship it!
Waffle3z: "the torpedo can be fired at an arbitrary water position within a range of 4 cells." 4 on both axes at the same time?
Hjax: it appears you can silence 0 to avoid moving, is that true
MSmits: 5 is more than 0
inoryy: TODO: along with screenshot, as this table uses concrete examples and isn't abstract?
Illedan: true Hjax
Illedan: But you use 6 Powers for that..
inoryy: maybe strip TODOs from description? :)
AntiSquid: took what 3 years for the contest to happen? :P
Hjax: so slightly longer than cells * lives
Illedan: You can also use other skills and stand still
BenjaminUrquhart: Waffle3z for anything that has to do with range: x range = where you can move in 4 turns
Hjax: oh if you shoot a torpedo you dont have to move
Hjax: huh
Waffle3z: so manhattan and not chebyshev
AntiSquid: starter bots?
eulerscheZahl: nope
AntiSquid: well w/e full month ahead
eulerscheZahl: open game in IDE, select language
that's your starter bot
sudomakeinstall2: do we know the initial position of openent?
eulerscheZahl: hell no
yfprojects: Will charges reset if charge another weapon?
eulerscheZahl: no
MSmits: sudomakeinstall2 that would defeat the purpose of the game :)
sudomakeinstall2: so how does the bot fires at me as soon as i get in range of him?
MSmits: he knows which way you went I suppuse
Astrobytes: Used his sonar
sudomakeinstall2: oh thanks
MSmits: can you fool someone with an illegal order?
eulerscheZahl: educated guessing, tracking your directions in the past turns and excluding some posistions that way
BenjaminUrquhart: in the stub, do variables with the word 'cooldown" mean how many charges are left or how many you have
eulerscheZahl: 0 = reday
eulerscheZahl: ready
BenjaminUrquhart: ok
aCat: yep - the one thing that seems interesting in this game is opponent tracking ;-)
BenjaminUrquhart: it's also the one thing I'm bad at :upside_down:
Scarfield: you will surface if you make an illegal order it seems
Waffle3z: silence makes it hard, I track the opponent but reset on every silence and the boss silences too frequently
MSmits: what does silence do exactly?
reCurse: It's like someone took the fog of war part of WW and made a game out of it
Waffle3z: so now I have to do some more complex space fitting business to figure out where they could have gone during the silence
MSmits: Waffle3z that's the fun part I think
Scarfield: silence is a move up to length 4, but you dont receive the direction of opps move
Waffle3z: yeah, after enough turns the number of possible positions eventually is narrowed down to 1 and then gg
Waffle3z: silence just makes that way harder
MSmits: 4 seems like a lot
MSmits: for silence
reCurse: Very similar to UTG in a way too
MSmits: and very different
MSmits: it's just 1 sub
MSmits: and no resource collection
reCurse: Yeah but the whole game seems to revolve around guessing
MSmits: true, only the guessing is far more central here
MadKnight: what's UTG ?
Scarfield: Unleash the Geek
MSmits: you could do reasonably well with UTG without too much guessing
reCurse: aka Crystal Rush aka no one is gonna call that ever
dbdr: does the torpedo hurt yourself?
MSmits: aim it at the opponent dbdr
MadKnight: Unleash your Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i started a few days
reCurse: Pointy end towards the enemy
dbdr: if you know where he is MSmits :)
jacek: winter wrap up winter wrap up ~
AntiSquid: hey anyone tried playing CR again?
dbdr: thanks reCurse :D
MadKnight: Unleash your MM and MCTS, there is a new contest
AntiSquid: what is utg anyway, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: what lang are you using?
MSmits: just blast an island if you dont dbdr :)
MSmits: blow up some sandcastles
AntiSquid: idk people use weird acronyms right Automaton2000
Automaton2000: it's not the same in c++
reCurse: There might not be enough depth for a month
reCurse: Pun intended
MSmits: reCurse just surface occasionally
MSmits: family will appreciate
Astrobytes: No need to be salty :P
BenjaminUrquhart: dbdr according to the referee torpedos hurt yourself
AntiSquid: i find it weird they released CR and contest at the same itme
dbdr: thanks BenjaminUrquhart
MSmits: oh, there is a CR multi too?
reCurse: UTG
BenjaminUrquhart: https://github.com/CodinGameCommunity/ocean-of-code/blob/f317e542f265375c068273c8784fcbe50803fdb3/src/main/java/com/codingame/game/commands/TorpedoPower.java#L42
MSmits: thats weird, they must have autosubmitted my contest bot?
AntiSquid: MSmits here is CR https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/crystal-rush
MSmits: yeah I found it
MSmits: i just think it is weird my bot is in there
AntiSquid: yes all contest bots from CR were auto submitted
reCurse: It's the new system
MSmits: ah ok
reCurse: Contest bots are auto pushed now
Astrobytes: MSmits, they are autosubmitting all from now on
MSmits: probably better that wya
MostComplicatedUsername: ooo
reCurse: And IIRC there won't be interruptions like 6 months with UTG
MostComplicatedUsername: theres another contest
reCurse: So game won't instantly die anymore
MostComplicatedUsername: I hadn't realized
Astrobytes: Yeah I think it's immediate now following contest end
AntiSquid: well they also promised that they will be no break after contest when it ends and that you can play multi immediately
reCurse: There's echo
AntiSquid: mine is more concise
reCurse: > More concise > More words :thinking:
programjames: How much time do you get for the first turn?
eulerscheZahl: 1s
eulerscheZahl: 50ms later
programjames: Okay. Hopefully should be enough for BFS
BenjaminUrquhart: it's more than enough time
BenjaminUrquhart: provided it's a decent bfs
MSmits: even if it is not
MSmits: it's pretty hard to reach 50 ms with a bfs on this map
reCurse: Or not a god-awful-why-did-you-do-it-in-lua one
BenjaminUrquhart: Waffle3z would like to know your location reCurse
reCurse: I thought I disabled that damn location service already
reCurse: Deny
MSmits: better disable it for this contest
AntiSquid: he will have to fight his moose first, BenjaminGarnier
Astrobytes: Grab it by the antlers
yfprojects: What is a BFS?
MSmits: :)
BenjaminUrquhart: breadth first search
AntiSquid: boat for sale yfprojects
reCurse: In true spirit of this contest everyone should do bot hiding
MSmits: best friend search
AntiSquid: it's a ocean game after all
Astrobytes: lol
aCat: BTW someone has screen of full game rules?
Skril: hi everyone :-)
Astrobytes: Big fish search
reCurse: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/CodinGameCommunity/ocean-of-code/master/config/level3/statement_en.html
aCat: yeahhh....
reCurse: Take it or leave it
MSmits: hey, the frog contributed that
MSmits: or.. toad sry
MostComplicatedUsername: the frog?
MostComplicatedUsername: Ohhhh
reCurse: or number
AntiSquid: it's a christmas toad
eulerscheZahl: but i can't update the contest statement myself
MSmits: eulerscheZahl, will you make an avatar of a toad with a diving helmet
eulerscheZahl: i know i missed 2 or 3 things there :(
AntiSquid: avatar of a frog that can swim! :o
MSmits: i liked on cthulhu you had a monster toad and on xmas rush i think it had a red hat
eulerscheZahl: and the ice and fire toad on the throne
AntiSquid: and on CR he had a crystal mining frog ?
MSmits: oh, i missed that one!!
emh: anyone has sonar working?
eulerscheZahl: not even the boss has :rofl:
sudomakeinstall2: sonar doesnt work on my level :(
AntiSquid: :thumbsup:
eulerscheZahl: still not sure when to use this hypnotoad https://supergeek.de/de/composition/hypnotrump-Hypnotoad-Hypnose-Kr%C3%B6te-Toad-Trump~eJyrVspUslJQSk_MyUktqlTSUVAqAPINjQxMzEDs_GIgL680JwfIKUEwC0BsQ1Mzc1NDQxNjIz0DkDSSfCaIHQ1SYGJkaGFgqWcQCxRNzs8vQDIuA2RGLQCO9yGM.jpg
emh: I just get NA for the result. wood 1. but cooldown seems to work
MSmits: euler, brilliant :)
eulerscheZahl: do you check in the turn after?
emh: I print out the result every turn
emh: always NA
emh: but is because of silence maybe?
eulerscheZahl: no
yfprojects: @eulerscheZahl what about using that avatar if trump get's elected again.
eulerscheZahl: i hope that won't happen
yfprojects: Well it isn't unlikely
AntiSquid: ya better Biden who has dementia? :p
eulerscheZahl: bernie for president
AntiSquid: let's be real, there's no good candidate
yfprojects: As always, that's what everyone said last year.
MostComplicatedUsername: That... doesn't make sense
yfprojects: What?
MostComplicatedUsername: If everyone always said it last year, then it was said for all time
eulerscheZahl: @emh i'm struggling with SONAR too, investigating
reCurse: Ah yes the good old "anyone who did something bad is equally as bad"
Lachu: corona
emh: eulerscheZahl ok :)
yfprojects: AntiSuids opinion is a very easy compromise.
struct: https://i.imgur.com/9U04KH9.png
yfprojects: Thank you!
reCurse: I can hear MSmits bitfields from here
struct: rules formated as cg
struct: but not from CG site
maxymczech: Hey guys
struct: but from what they use in SDK
reCurse: The hero we need
BenjaminUrquhart: I heard bitfields
MSmits: reCurse yeah, i have bit ideas already, but going for a walk in the park now. the bits will wait
reCurse: Imagine each bit as a puppy
AntiSquid: oh god, why is it black on white ugh
struct: ...
BenjaminUrquhart: kek
MSmits: bit, puppy, got it
PatrickMcGinnisII: cpt. levine shot at me....AH
BenjaminUrquhart: I'm already devolving into madness
BenjaminUrquhart: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fd2cb368-ba7a-4379-8966-dfbbc3d52b47
struct: I go read the statement now
BenjaminUrquhart: bitfields it is
0Cool: is there like a strategy game? build units... gatherrecources?
BenjaminUrquhart: Code Royale
struct: This reminds be of UTTT
struct: 9 sectors
BenjaminUrquhart: Code of Ice and Fire
BenjaminUrquhart: not sure of any other resource/unit games
ThunderbirdOne: oh man, good thing emails are a thing
ThunderbirdOne: didnt know about the competition
AntiSquid: it popped out of nowhere
ThunderbirdOne: you lose hitpoints for surfacing? that feels weird
reCurse: I just realized how limitative it is to charge each action
reCurse: It seems like you have many options but not really
ThunderbirdOne: you only have a single charge meter right?
reCurse: No it's per action
ThunderbirdOne: ooh okay, so it's basically a cooldown? :p
reCurse: To use silence you must specifically charge silence for 6 turns
reCurse: Too bad if you could have used something else
maxymczech: Should I use "MOVE N TORPEDO" or "MOVE N"?
yfprojects: Do you want to charge the TORPEDO?
ThunderbirdOne: so reCurse, you need to specifically charge an action?
struct: this is confusing me a bit
struct: (not visiting already visited cells or islands)
ThunderbirdOne: if you don't, it doesn't charge?
reCurse: Exactly
ThunderbirdOne: so you output if you want to execute the action or if the action charge is below required charge?
reCurse: Well read the statement -_-
ThunderbirdOne: struct basically you can't go back to a place you've already been, unless when you surface
ThunderbirdOne: this resets the visited cell array
reCurse: So it's tron with 6 lives and superpowers
yfprojects: So you have to surface at one point.
maxymczech: hey guys
maxymczech: which command do I use to move
maxymczech: "MOVE N TORPEDO" or "MOVE N"
ThunderbirdOne: i guess they put that in so you indeed have to surface at some point and it keeps the game from going on super long
ThunderbirdOne: if you just want to move, just do MOVE
ThunderbirdOne: but if you also want to charge torps, you also output that
ThunderbirdOne: seperated witha pipe
ThunderbirdOne: so legally it would be MOVE N | TORPEDO
eulerscheZahl: @emh found the SONAR bug, will update the game as soon as we can
ThunderbirdOne: not sure if it can have spaces around the pipes?
maxymczech: @ThunderbirdOne thank you
yfprojects: ThunderbirdOne that would wrong
maxymczech: That is not what it says in description though...
yfprojects: You cant have the | between Move and Torpedo
maxymczech: Your action: MOVE N TORPEDO
yfprojects: I think spaces are ok
emh: @eulerscheZahl thanks :)
struct: Line 3: a summary of the actions (separated by |) that your opponent has made during its turn.
Example: MOVE N |TORPEDO 3 5
Astrobytes: maxymczech it says "Example: MOVE N |TORPEDO 3 5" just above the Output section. Not clear tho
Astrobytes: The output section should state the 'POWER' is optional
maxymczech: @Astrobytes thank you
ThunderbirdOne: i was wondering why they were telling me i was wrong
ThunderbirdOne: when clearly the information was right
reCurse: Is there a turn limit eulerscheZahl?
eulerscheZahl: 200 frames
reCurse: So 100 turns each?
eulerscheZahl: we could increase up to 600 if needed i think
eulerscheZahl: yes, 100 each
reCurse: That seems very short but that's 100% speculative
eulerscheZahl: you are probably right
ThunderbirdOne: so, basically, once you hit your enemy (hp -2), you got him;.. since you get all his moves from that point on right?
yfprojects: @ThunderbirdOne because you expressed wrongly
ThunderbirdOne: what do you mean i expressed wrongly?
eulerscheZahl: it was done very much in a hurry, right now it's more like open testing :(
ThunderbirdOne: it's fine eulerscheZahl, this gives us something to do during the lockdowns :p
yfprojects: Move N |Torpedo
Astrobytes: All good eulerscheZahl, bugs can be ironed out and tweaked etc, just nice to have a contest!
reCurse: That does seem problematic
reCurse: But that's why you have silence
eulerscheZahl: MOVE N TORPEDO | TORPEDO 3 3
@ yfprojects
reCurse: On the other hand though, hope you had one ready :p
yfprojects: Move N |Torpedo is sth. else than Move N |Torpedo X Y or MOVE N Torpedo |...
ThunderbirdOne: oh, wait... charging an action doesn't require a |?
reCurse: No
ThunderbirdOne: oh boy :P
yfprojects: Yes that's what I am saying
eulerscheZahl: MOVE N TORPEDO to charge
eulerscheZahl: TORPEDO 3 3 to shoot
ThunderbirdOne: you can only charge 1 action per turn?
eulerscheZahl: yes
ThunderbirdOne: sorry, new here :p
Astrobytes: Yep
ThunderbirdOne: okay
ThunderbirdOne: hmmm
ThunderbirdOne: interesting
duckymirror: How is the distance to the torpedo target calculated?
struct: ahhhh
eulerscheZahl: movement dist
reCurse: Do you get the charge for the current turn
duckymirror: Manhattan?
eulerscheZahl: you get the missing charges to be ready
eulerscheZahl: not manhattan, BFS distance
Astrobytes: BFS duckymirror
struct: so I can charge and instantly shoot?
eulerscheZahl: so you have to shoot your torpedo around an island
struct: if it was not readfy?
reCurse: So if you had 2 charges of torpedo, you could MOVE N TORPEDO | TORPEDO
eulerscheZahl: yes struct
eulerscheZahl: but that means you have to move first and then shoot
struct: can you move after?
eulerscheZahl: TORPEDO 3 3 | MOVE N TORPEDO
is possible too
duckymirror: I'm trying to figure out why I get an out of range error in one case...
struct: Oh nice
eulerscheZahl: but only if it was fully charged before
reCurse: Ok makes sense
struct: yes I understand
eulerscheZahl: that also affects your range
eulerscheZahl: as it uses the old vs new location
struct: it is based on state before move
ThunderbirdOne: does anything happen when you charge a fully charged action?
struct: no
eulerscheZahl: you waste a charge action
wlesavo: is torpedo have a speed of 1?
reCurse: You should auto lose
Scarfield: Torpedo overcharged, self destruct imminent
Waffle3z: are cooldown and charge different?
Scarfield: charge subtracts 1 from cooldown
eulerscheZahl: cooldown = missing charge to use it
yfprojects: Does the torpedo need time to travel? @elerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: hint: eu[tab] for autocomplete
eulerscheZahl: then you don't misspell me
yfprojects: Oh didnt know that
reCurse: You can also invite him to a clash to grab his attention
eulerscheZahl: :rage:
Scarfield: but at the risk of autocompleting a different name with the same starting letters ;)
yfprojects: I will think about that
eulerscheZahl: EugenioToshiAmato changed his nick just for me, even if he was on CG first
eulerscheZahl: i still feel sorry for telling him as a joke
Scarfield: lol xD
eulerscheZahl: now he's ToshiTuringMachine
reCurse: But now it conflicts with Tobou
tobk: can you take damage from your own torpedo?
Scarfield: yes
eulerscheZahl: Tobou can delete the account, solved
Astrobytes: lol
Marchete: simple solutions
ThunderbirdOne: it is rather simple, it just needs some social pressure
ThunderbirdOne: easy
Scarfield: Benjamin Urquhart 06:45PM
https://github.com/CodinGameCommunity/ocean-of-code/blob/f317e542f265375c068273c8784fcbe50803fdb3/src/main/java/com/codingame/game/commands/TorpedoPower.java#L42
Scarfield: tobk
struct: Maybe I will have to delete
eulerscheZahl: and Scarfield knows the codebase better than me already
yfprojects: So does the damage go through diagonally walls?
eulerscheZahl: yes, damage spreads
Waffle3z: I see the wood 1 boss saying "MOVE W SILENCE" and not "SILENCE W" does that make it silent?
eulerscheZahl: but the torpedo itself can only take water cells
eulerscheZahl: charge SILENCE
yfprojects: Because on discord yo said different
eulerscheZahl: SILENCE W 1 for sneaks
eulerscheZahl: or a higher dist, but only 1 for the boss
Waffle3z: what does a higher distance do? move more than 1 space in a single turn?
yfprojects: i think so
eulerscheZahl: yes, silence can make you move up to 4 cells
eulerscheZahl: in 1 direction, no corners like torpedoes
Scarfield: I just copy pasted a comment from benjamin, havent even looked at the link lol, but i will take the credit :p
MadKnight: what algos are u guys using for this one ?
eulerscheZahl: C#
Scarfield: MaddyMax
reCurse: GA of course
Astrobytes: Monte Carlo Mini-Annealing with Gamma pruning and recursive shallowing
eulerscheZahl: ping emh still there
Illedan: GA will be good yes
eulerscheZahl: SONAR should be fixed, can you check please?
i'm in wood2, so i can't :(
Illedan: Same :(
Waffle3z: submit the default code to get out of wood 2
Eclipse_Storm: if { if { if { if { if { if { if... best algo
Illedan: Don't work. Boss is fixed
struct: what needs to be checked?
Illedan: If sonar works now
eulerscheZahl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/11f31510-9aa0-4e0d-9c04-ebe887e39e42
eulerscheZahl: does it print a Y and N on stderr sometimes?
eulerscheZahl: (if you don't spawn on an island)
eulerscheZahl: for wood1 users
struct: no
Astrobytes: Yep, working
Waffle3z: getting "Timeout!" and no output, it refuses to tell me what's in stderr
Astrobytes: eulerscheZahl it's working
yfprojects: @Waffle3z i think thats normal
struct: https://i.imgur.com/d7bILFv.gifv
eulerscheZahl: just confirmed myself, working
Astrobytes: struct you need to print the sonarResult
struct: :p
eulerscheZahl: saiksyApo promoted me manually :)
eulerscheZahl: now I lost an opportunity on 25XP
dbdr: rip
yfprojects: What is GA?
Astrobytes: Put in a claim :P
struct: unpromote
struct: this is not fair
struct: I worked hard to get wood 1
Astrobytes: yfprojects Genetic algorithm
Waffle3z: errors don't go to the output, I have to mouse over the red line in the replay to see what the error is
struct: yeah
eulerscheZahl: i tweaked the boss to make it harder for you struct
struct: also firing into island returns "out of range"
struct: just little details
Astrobytes: Ah yeah, invalid move or whatever would be nice in the info output actually
eulerscheZahl: because you can't reach the island
struct: yes I understand
reCurse: Fix your code
dbdr: hum, 0-0? :D
dbdr: ah yes, suicide :D
Waffle3z: wood 1 boss is just too powerful
Waffle3z: it knows where I am
Astrobytes: Fix it Waffle3z
yfprojects: Bye, have a nice evening! I am going offline now!
yyellowflashh: hey wassup
AntiSquid: what are the directions? N W E S ?
struct: is it based on this game eulerscheZahl?
struct: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/171131/captain-sonar
Illedan: yes
eulerscheZahl: read the statement struct, 1st sentence
eulerscheZahl: F5 if it's not written there
Nixerrr: :joy_cat:
tobk: what is the format for "MSG"? Can it contain a "|"?
struct: yeah sorry
struct: it was not showing before
struct: havent refreshed
Illedan: tobk, MSG can not contain |
eulerscheZahl: i think not @tobk
dbdr: lol
dbdr: I took time to beat wood 2
dbdr: now i'm #2 in wood 1 directly
eulerscheZahl: i haven't even started yet :(
ThunderbirdOne: same...
ThunderbirdOne: watching Jimmy Broadbent on youtube :')
dbdr: even beat the wood 1 boss
dbdr: who wrote the bosses?
eulerscheZahl: G_Rom started
eulerscheZahl: i tweaked them
Illedan: Nice dbdr
eulerscheZahl: the boss only moved and only used torpedoes when it was 100% sure about the opponent position
dbdr: thanks Illedan
eulerscheZahl: not it's more trigger-happy
eulerscheZahl: now*
dbdr: I felt really slow to promote
eulerscheZahl: hard boss?
eulerscheZahl: or slow submit?
dbdr: hard boss
Illedan: Hard boss yeh
dbdr: which is fine
Illedan: for a contest this long, it's fine yeah
dbdr: well, you might need to nerf it eventually
eulerscheZahl: Illedan forgot to make it SURFACE every 25 turns
dbdr: if too many people get stuck
Illedan: I wrote it on TODO and never did it :D
dbdr: feels unusually strong to me
Illedan: Yeah it is
eulerscheZahl: i wrote a TODO in the statement directly
dbdr: but that happened before, can't recll which contest now
eulerscheZahl: kutulu
Illedan: I did beat it 2 years ago, but I used 3 hours or so
eulerscheZahl: which was my boss :(
dbdr: 2 years ago? this boss?
eulerscheZahl: and now it's a stronger boss than in the contrib
Illedan: Yeah
eulerscheZahl: really old prototype
dbdr: ah ok :D
Illedan: I played the prototype with only moving + torpedo 2 years ago :P
eulerscheZahl: older than the kutulu contest
eulerscheZahl: i saw the contribution but never played
dbdr: no new rules in wood 1, strange
dbdr: seems there is a lot of new things in bronze
eulerscheZahl: then it was broken (pixi.js update)
eulerscheZahl: there should be sonar+silence in w1
eulerscheZahl: there are
eulerscheZahl: sorry for no green highlighting
dbdr: I don't think I ever was top 2 in a contest :champagne:
eulerscheZahl: i was, i have screenshots to prove :D
eulerscheZahl: the gallery of popped dreams
dbdr: I thought I did not like sprints, but...
dbdr: can we still change the rules? ;)
Scarfield: end the contest now you mean? :D
dbdr: yeah
dbdr: oh, I have crashes
eulerscheZahl: do you understand the name of the wood1 boss?
dbdr: i don't understand any boss name
eulerscheZahl: :(
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMsblGTAdM
Astrobytes: He's Captain Birdseye in UK, or was
Astrobytes: But I got it
eulerscheZahl: yay
Astrobytes: Also, should be Cpt not Ctp ;)
dbdr: right, I vaguely remember some ad for frozen food
eulerscheZahl: and the other is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689865717067284592/690597589279834192/450.png
dbdr: Levine?
eulerscheZahl: yes
Astrobytes: lol, wasn't in wood 2 long enough to register it, wp
Waffle3z: can you go silent and just not move? SILENCE N 0
dbdr: HIDE
dbdr: DIVE DEEP
Waffle3z: BUY TOILET PAPER
Astrobytes: DIVE DIVE DIVE
struct: do mines trigger mines?
ThunderbirdOne: Waffle3z you can't not move... because you already visited that cell
dbdr: wait, there are new commands in wood 1?
dbdr: isn't there something missing in the statement to announce it? eulerscheZahl Illedan
Scarfield: "This allows you to move 0 to 4 cells in a given direction", it seems you can from the rules, but idk
Illedan: Correct Waffle3z
eulerscheZahl: you mean a green highlighting? or the text telling that there will be more rules?
eulerscheZahl: hmm... :/
dbdr: both
dbdr: definitely the green
Illedan: Time was an issue.
dbdr: usually there is also a popup, right?
Scarfield: Die Grünes
dbdr: sure, that's fine
Illedan: Easier to just help you out in chat :)
eulerscheZahl: we agreed on not making a popup before
eulerscheZahl: not forgotten, planned
dbdr: OK
dbdr: the green would be nice
Illedan: struct, no. Mines and Torpedo doesn't trigger other mines
Astrobytes: That would be the sequel, Tidal Wave of Code
eulerscheZahl: i can add a green, but not push it in production
not sure if i want to ping staff just for a green color
dbdr: nah, it's not urgent
dbdr: esp with a marathon
Illedan: I guess we can queue it up for changes on monday
dbdr: but they are confined, so they might be lurking :)
eulerscheZahl: yes, along with 600 turns
Waffle3z: lmao https://www.codingame.com/replay/440910957
Illedan: We should write about the 600 turns on forum
Illedan: :D Waffle3z
eulerscheZahl: you should :P
Illedan: On it
Astrobytes: lol Waffle3z
eulerscheZahl: right, i wanted to have a look at the map generator to see if such cases are possible :(
Illedan: Nah, I find it funny
Illedan: :D
Astrobytes: Isn't it more that the boss is choosing the wrong place to spawn?
Illedan: means you have to check it too
Illedan: Boss is just n00b
eulerscheZahl: the boss takes a random cell with water
eulerscheZahl: so the large area is mor elikely
eulerscheZahl: but in this case... :D
Astrobytes: lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: tron all over again, sigh ... the visited cells ugh
Illedan: Just surface and try again
ThunderbirdOne: btw, just noticed this
ThunderbirdOne: 30 day competition?
ThunderbirdOne: this is going to be brutal
ThunderbirdOne: no rush though
Astrobytes: You know you'll submit the day before it ends ThunderbirdOne :P
ThunderbirdOne: always
ThunderbirdOne: i procrastinate
Astrobytes: :D
ThunderbirdOne: there's nothing like a deadline to turn on the pressure
ThunderbirdOne: i've had work weeks where i delay, and tell my team i'm doing well and it'll be done soon
ThunderbirdOne: only to finish the entire story in a single day
ThunderbirdOne: just before my colleagues would get suspicious...
ThunderbirdOne: and THAT is the power of doing daily standips :p
ThunderbirdOne: it gives procrastinators less time to screw around
Astrobytes: daily standups? Is that an agile thing?
ThunderbirdOne: aye
ThunderbirdOne: basically, at a fixed time every day
ThunderbirdOne: you get the team together
Astrobytes: Yeah I get the concept
ThunderbirdOne: and you just say very briefly this is wha ti did yesterday, i'm gonna do this today, and i think i might have problems with this
Astrobytes: Works great then :P
ThunderbirdOne: it's nice
ThunderbirdOne: aye
ThunderbirdOne: you can only keep up the facade for that many days without any commits before the team gets suspicious :D
AntiSquid: is range 4 here like range 4 in CR ?
Astrobytes: lol
ThunderbirdOne: manhattan distance i suppose?
Astrobytes: BFS AntiSquid
Waffle3z: path length
AntiSquid: don't understand
AntiSquid: ok thx wayneww
AntiSquid: Waffle3z
Fabden: how can i debug in python clash code ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: crazy Ivan
struct: print("Debug messages...", file=sys.stderr)
Fabden: thank
ThunderbirdOne: right, time to open a new github repo
ThunderbirdOne: and copy the starter code to a new VS project
Qurtin: It's always the right time to open a github repo.
ThunderbirdOne: haha
Astrobytes: Making giant leaps here ThunderbirdOne
ThunderbirdOne: yeah, imagine that
ThunderbirdOne: starting on day 1
Astrobytes: I've never seen the likes :D
ThunderbirdOne: I'm learning
Astrobytes: heheh
ThunderbirdOne: I should fine a way to remote into my work laptop from my gaming rig =]
ThunderbirdOne: so i wouldn't have to switch my keyboard, mouse and screens all the time
ThunderbirdOne: I'm sure the ops guys at my current client would very much not agree :p
Astrobytes: lel, possibly not :P
ThunderbirdOne: i got one of their laptops too :p
ThunderbirdOne: not even using my own ^^'
ThunderbirdOne: well, company laptop... but still
AntiSquid: game looks like lots of headache
ThunderbirdOne: possibly
AntiSquid: shit ton to keep track of :/
ThunderbirdOne: i was imagining keeping a list of cells the enemy could be at
ThunderbirdOne: like if he moves E on first move... that eliminates every cell that is on the E edge, or W of land
ThunderbirdOne: and slowly make that list smaller and smaller :p
ThunderbirdOne: but SILENCE kind of screws that up
Waffle3z: that's what I'm doing, including listing new possible positions every time they go silent
ThunderbirdOne: yeah, makes sense
Waffle3z: which basically almost resets it because there are tons of new positions they can be in
ThunderbirdOne: when they surface, you can seriously limit the options
ThunderbirdOne: or when they fire off a torp as well, since that has a specific range
ThunderbirdOne: nowhere near implementing that though
Waffle3z: you can also fire off a torpedo at a suspected position and see if they took damage the next turn
ThunderbirdOne: aye
ThunderbirdOne: if you miss, you also know those cells are NOT where the opponent is at
Waffle3z: although they could have damaged themselves in some other way
ThunderbirdOne: ah shit, yeah
shutwe: is it possible to export code, to test/try on idle?
Scarfield: you would know if they have surfaced though
eulerscheZahl: "i was imagining keeping a list of cells the enemy could be at"
you summarize what the referee does ThunderbirdOne
ThunderbirdOne: haha, haven't read that yet
eulerscheZahl: it's private
eulerscheZahl: the public repo is without boss
ThunderbirdOne: aha
eulerscheZahl: i meant boss above, not referee :(
ThunderbirdOne: that makes more sense
ThunderbirdOne: kind of want to play doom eternal atm... but i can't reach my gaming rig
ThunderbirdOne: it's temporarily connected to tv because of reno... but that means mouse + kb on coffee table = sore back
BenjaminUrquhart: it's been 4 hours and I'm still designing the data structures for my bot
BenjaminUrquhart: hm
blasterpoard: BenjaminUrquhart don't; you'll delete it anyway
ThunderbirdOne: I tend to not spend too much time on design... I feel like it'll emerge :p
BenjaminUrquhart: don't give me that
icecream17: ugh i'm still trying to beat the first boss on the wood league. i'm overcomplicating things probably.
BenjaminUrquhart: first boss can be beaten by submitting the stub code
eulerscheZahl: boss might be too strong
BenjaminUrquhart: or at least it was beatable that way when the contest started
blasterpoard: icecream17 nope, the boss is much tougher than you standard wood bosses... it was broken it the first couple of minutes, but then it got fixed
blasterpoard: *your
BenjaminUrquhart: so I got lucky then
icecream17: I already have 122 lines of code
blasterpoard: 350 here ^^
icecream17: *don't know if that's a lot
BenjaminUrquhart: I have 254 and no AI
eulerscheZahl: and i will never get that 25XP for wood2->wood1 promotion :cry:
ThunderbirdOne: it's fine... project i'm working on right now... RouteConfig alone is like 2K lines of code :(
BenjaminUrquhart: last contest everyone had like 2k lines
ThunderbirdOne: they defined all the routing in there, instead of using the controller action attributes
ThunderbirdOne: and it's all non-standard routes
icecream17: Right now, there's a 1 space gap where my ship keeps getting stuck. It just so happens to be perfectly aligned.
eulerscheZahl: i had almost exactly 1k lines in the last contest BenjaminUrquhart
ThunderbirdOne: instead of the /{controllername}/{action}
BenjaminUrquhart: eulerscheZahl I had exactly 1700
eulerscheZahl: 976
eulerscheZahl: which is not 2000
BenjaminUrquhart: ok
eulerscheZahl: i never reached 2000
struct: euler I have one question
struct: So
eulerscheZahl: i have one too
eulerscheZahl: when delete?
eulerscheZahl: but you first
struct: If enemy has torpedo available
struct: and he uses it outside range cell
struct: I still get that action
struct: has enemy made it
struct: He can like trick me to think he was in that range
eulerscheZahl: hm, i think you should not get the action then...
struct: but it happens
struct: I just tried
eulerscheZahl: then it's to be added on our TODO
icecream17: I'm still working on moving the boat... I feel bad
struct: damn i should have used this to get to legend
Quidome: He everyone, this is great, thxs to you all wha made this happen :D
struct: so euler the intended thing is to only get legal actions right?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: illedan's job though
eulerscheZahl: my responsibilities are limited to the statement, boss and tooltips :D
eulerscheZahl: no complains about tooltips yet B)
Astrobytes: Hey struct, that font on the tooltips sucks huh
Astrobytes: :P
Astrobytes: You humourless people
ThunderbirdOne: :D
icecream17: "Yes! I found a bug!" I say. Then I hear "Whaa? Why would...? Ew"
BenjaminUrquhart: ew
icecream17: That was an amazing comment Benjamin
BenjaminUrquhart: thank you
ThunderbirdOne: there we go, Github repo made... now to clone it locally
struct: So lets see if I find more bugs
Astrobytes: #winning ThunderbirdOne
struct: but about the statement
struct: I just dont think this sounds fine
eulerscheZahl: shush
struct: (not visiting already visited cells or islands)
eulerscheZahl: can you elaborate on it more?
struct: maybe its my english
struct: I cant understand it
Waffle3z: does it matter what order MOVE|TORPEDO/TORPEDO|MOVE is in?
struct: Not visiting already visited cells
struct: ah I see
eulerscheZahl: Waffle3z as a native speaker, is that fine?
struct: not moving to already visited cells
eulerscheZahl: that's the intention, yes
struct: a<h
struct: ah
struct: Now I fully understand
eulerscheZahl: the order makes a difference
struct: The path must not cross
struct: visited cells
struct: right?
eulerscheZahl: yes
icecream17: Is it possible... to stay still? It doesn't say.
struct: no
struct: you must move
Scarfield: it is, with silence 0 (?)
eulerscheZahl: you can stay
eulerscheZahl: silence 0 or any other action
AntiSquid: surface ! you stand still
eulerscheZahl: you only need 1 action, so shooting a torpedo gives you an opportunity to wait
AntiSquid: oh
icecream17: great. now it's even more complicated
eulerscheZahl: :D
struct: lol
struct: I got 3 tooltips in 1 error
dbdr: oh, I also thought you had to move
AntiSquid: so is this going to open up a new league every friday?
dbdr: yeah
dbdr: like locam
Illedan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFpafGfblQ&feature=youtu.be
SeebOmega streaming
aCat: eulerscheZahl
aCat: a string with 8 space separated integers.
x y myLife oppLife sonarResult torpedoCooldown sonarCooldown silenceCooldown mineCooldown
eulerscheZahl: aCat
eulerscheZahl: i know :(
aCat: sonarResult shouldnt be there
aCat: it's 9 entities listed
aCat: ah ok ;-)
struct: euler I made red bar
struct: https://i.imgur.com/CjVYvAO.png
eulerscheZahl: bar of invalidity
Illedan: gj
Illedan: Print it, put it on your wall
BenjaminUrquhart: nice
eulerscheZahl: IMO invalid commands belong in the game summary, not that event bar
eulerscheZahl: :shrugs:
Illedan: I think I will remove a whole lot of event bar stuff in bronze and above
Illedan: Only show when player takes damage
eulerscheZahl: i think i'll go to bed
Illedan: You do
eulerscheZahl: cat agrees
Illedan: And I'll get 1st until you wake up
Illedan: :D
struct: just trying to see whats wrong
struct: if you want I dont report
Illedan: Read the toolbar items struct
AntiSquid: the world is
Illedan: They say what command is invalid
Illedan: and such
Astrobytes: Yeah, game summary should show invalid actions I think
Astrobytes: ooh I lag
struct: I know Illedan
Codrepository: HELLO
Illedan: Was triggerhappy on the Tooltips :D
Codrepository: HOW ARE YOU?
struct: it even crashes my browser
struct: I guess If I submit and someone opens replay
icecream17: YAS YES YES YAS yes yes Finally I can't believe it works!... wait what? [ignore this]
struct: they also crash
struct: this is not good
struct: this is a problem*
struct: maybe sounds better
Illedan: crashes browser?
Illedan: What replay?
struct: I would post if it didnt crashg
struct: cout << "||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||MOVE N" << endl;
struct: if it works in your browser tell me
struct: if it works add more |
BenjaminUrquhart: rip my tab
Illedan: Yeah
Illedan: that died
BenjaminUrquhart: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440930469
Illedan: But why on earth would you even try that
struct: I like to test
BenjaminUrquhart: Game Summary: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a9663b9b-826d-42f3-bc0b-8e580c028736
Illedan: :P
Illedan: I guess command was not found.
BenjaminUrquhart: you sure?
Illedan: I should just crash in that case :thinking:
Astrobytes: "SeebOmega streaming" - C++ in IntelliJ IDEA!!! Putain de merde, my eyes!!! :D
Illedan: xD
Illedan: Hide your kids
Astrobytes: hahaa
AntiSquid: how is Valgrowth still in wood2?
MSmits: hmm is negative shift possible in c++?
AntiSquid: i thought 0 hours shift is bad
MSmits: 0b10011001 << -1
Scarfield: >> ? :)
BenjaminUrquhart: but that didn't answer the question
AntiSquid: maybe it doesn't question the answer
Scarfield: 42 if in doubt
dbdr: MSmits I don't think so, but double check
PatrickMcGinnisII: it's legitimate, but will shift by the modulo of the precision, hence an abs shift left i believe
BenjaminUrquhart: eulerscheZahl what happens if we silence and move at the same time
Scarfield: it seems shifting with negative numbers is undefined behaviour, but why not just use >> 1 instead?
MSmits: ah it's just annoying if you can't. I can do an if statement
Astrobytes: @BenjaminUrquhart euler's asleep now man
PatrickMcGinnisII: it should pass the compiler, but the expected result is junk i believe
BenjaminUrquhart: I'm not paying attention
struct: Think like this
MSmits: I have a shift map function and I would have preferred to make it branchless and tidy
struct: moves happen in the order you output
struct: you silence to position
struct: then you can move
struct: But you can try
dror1212: um, how do I advence in the legues? :sweat_smile:
Scarfield: you can move after silence? i assumed it was only one "moving action" per turn
struct: ok ill test
AntiSquid: valgrowth has become the 2nd wood2 boss :D
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/440933060
struct: hope that answers
Scarfield: nice, ty
PatrickMcGinnisII: Fatal error: Uncaught ArithmeticError: Bit shift by negative number php throws exception
ThunderbirdOne: php though;..
PatrickMcGinnisII: i was curious if it would check it
PatrickMcGinnisII: php is just a c++ wrapper i think
PatrickMcGinnisII: i could be wrong
PatrickMcGinnisII: i fergeet
Scarfield: never fergeet
ThunderbirdOne: YEEET
MSmits: thanks for trying PatrickMcGinnisII :)
AntiSquid: hello youtube
PatrickMcGinnisII: AntiSquid troll alert?
AntiSquid: lol he is complaining about his roommate listening to chinese stuff really loud :D
Scarfield: Ille 09:59PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFpafGfblQ&feature=youtu.be
SeebOmega streaming
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFpafGfblQ&feature=youtu.be PatrickMcGinnisII
Waffle3z: nice, I'm #1 in ocean of code
Waffle3z: we can end the contest now
Astrobytes: :d
dror1212: um, how do I advence in the legues? :sweat_smile:
blasterpoard: dror1212 get to the top
struct: you need to submit
struct: and be above boss ranking
struct: after all matches are complete
dror1212: oh ok thanks
PatrickMcGinnisII: AntiSquid I'm further along than that
PatrickMcGinnisII: there is a BFS in the referee for the really lazy
AntiSquid: i am extremely lazy right now, don't feel like even taking that rn
Illedan: ValGrowth stuck?
AntiSquid: yes
Illedan: Did he try to resubmit?
BattlePirate_9000: i just finished a 4 hour course on python, im a self taught programmer now right
AntiSquid: he is now a wood2 Boss
Astrobytes: I'm not doing anything until tomorrow tbh
AntiSquid: i go sleep
Astrobytes: other than watching SeebOmega's amazing bilingual stream
struct: I still havent done anything too
struct: Reading rules
ThunderbirdOne: i made a GH repo and pasted the code into VS
ThunderbirdOne: then pushed that to GH repo
ThunderbirdOne: that's about as far as i got :')
ThunderbirdOne: also noticed i had a shitton of updates for VS2019
SeebOmega: best map
SeebOmega: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440938902
Scarfield: thats rough
Illedan: Lol SeebOmega. nailed it!
dbdr: good choice
MSmits: lol
dbdr: have you started a bot MSmits?
Astrobytes: dbdr I bet you 16 bits he's at least 32 bits into one of his 64 bit representations of something
Astrobytes: :P
dbdr: :D
struct: with 16 bits I can do 16 sims at once
MSmits: dbdr, yeah I am just working on my bitboard
Astrobytes: See, I told you
Astrobytes: :D
dbdr: did you even look at the full rules?
MSmits: :)
MSmits: somewhat
dbdr: :)
Illedan: lol
Illedan: Wonder if you need bitboard
Illedan: :thinking:
Astrobytes: Saw the board and bitboarded instantly
MSmits: it's not a matter of "need"
Illedan: :D
dbdr: write bitboard first, read the rules later
MSmits: it's simply easier to use
PatrickMcGinnisII: this is more like pirates, am i wrong?
struct: So in what you store
MSmits: you really want to make an object out of every square?
Astrobytes: Hell naw
Illedan: yeah
Illedan: I can store so much information on that cell
MSmits: I am even using C++
Astrobytes: Ooh straight to base this time
MSmits: I first made a C# project and I wanted to start coding, but I just gave up before the first line
MSmits: i mean why even bother when everything is gonna be bitboarded
Illedan: True
Illedan: Why wait 3 weeks when you can do it today
MSmits: at least in c++ I can do if(a & b)
Astrobytes: You can't do that in C#?
MSmits: instead of if ((a& b) > 0)
MSmits: no you cant
Astrobytes: Fk that language lol
Illedan: -.-
PatrickMcGinnisII: the tricks to finding the enemy are interesting
Astrobytes: I was sort of liking some C# recently
PatrickMcGinnisII: hacing to be < 4 squares kinda sucks
PatrickMcGinnisII: or <=4
MSmits: I like it when I need to make very complex sims with many objects
MSmits: this is not one of those games
Illedan: Don't need to sim it?
blasterpoard: about 30 turns in, you know where the opponent is
MSmits: oh i might need to, but it wont be complex I think
MSmits: the strategy will be
blasterpoard: the only thing that stops you from knowing is silence
MSmits: but the simming I dont think so
Illedan: Not really blasterpoard
Illedan: There is more stuff to do
Illedan: :)
dbdr: MSmits that's compiled to the same thing
MSmits: I know it's compiled the same
dbdr: if ((a& b) > 0) in C#
MSmits: it just reads bad
dbdr: so does it matter?
dbdr: ok...
struct: I need those extra chars
MSmits: yeah, bitboards are hard to read as it is
MSmits: i dont want it to be any harder with more parentheses
struct: My CSB is 60k chars atm
struct: and no search
Astrobytes: I agree with his preference, anything that makes bitwise stuff read better is better imo :D
blasterpoard: Illedan sure, you can move in a way that gives the opponent very little info... but when the first torpedo is fired, sim begins
Astrobytes: You're still working on that rn struct?#
struct: no
struct: Now Ill do AVX on ooc
blasterpoard: and usually even before that
Astrobytes: oh ok, hahaha
Illedan: True blaster
Illedan: We'll see
Illedan: Wonder what the meta will become
MSmits: why is it a sim?
MSmits: doesnt the torpedo just go boom
MSmits: it doesnt move or anything?
blasterpoard: no, it tells the opponent you're in 4 range from the explosion
MSmits: ahh ok
struct: not yet
struct: due to bug
struct: but yeah
blasterpoard: you'll probably have to hide by going silent in teh same turn
MSmits: depends. you can sonar yourself
MSmits: and know what the opponent knows
Illedan: huh?
MSmits: keep track of what he knows of you
MSmits: sonar yourself
Illedan: ofc
blasterpoard: get silence -> get torpedo -> find opponent -> torpedo him and silence away
blasterpoard: repeat
Illedan: We'll see ;)
MSmits: if you torpedo the opponent and he still has like 7 squares to guess from, you dont need to silence
Illedan: I have a different meta in my mind
icecream17: how do you sonar
MSmits: passively
MSmits: you receive information
MSmits: every turn
icecream17: oh
MSmits: you also know what the opponent receives of you
blasterpoard: he's probably asking about sonar action ^^
icecream17: yeah.
MSmits: oh, i have no clue about that
icecream17: ok
MSmits: i just thought people referred to the information gathering process
Illedan: SONAR is used to check if the enemy is located in a specific section of the map
blasterpoard: select a segment, next turn you learn whether the opponent is there or not
Illedan: *was there blaster
MSmits: sonar is not in wood 2:P
icecream17: so the range of the torpedo, does '4' mean from say, x - 2 to x + 2, or x - 4 to x + 4?
MSmits: neither
MSmits: it's within 4 movement steps
MSmits: floodfill it
icecream17: sigh
MSmits: I am starting with random sub placement
MSmits: but apparently that can get you stuck in a 1 cell basin
Illedan: Pick a random in center
Astrobytes: Flood from potential placement MSmits
MSmits: anyone got a snipped to split opponent orders?
MSmits: in c++ ?
MSmits: thats the most painful thing about c++.. string manipulation
MSmits: snippet that is
MSmits: I think i have a bot somewhere that uses an illegible piece of code that does this
struct: locam
MSmits: nah, C# bot
MSmits: I think it's maybe one of my opening book readers
MSmits: split on spaces I think
blasterpoard: while(getline(orders, token, '|')) {
tokens.push_back(token);
}
blasterpoard: maybe
blasterpoard: token,orders = string
Astrobytes: Did it in CalM, did you c++ that
blasterpoard: tokens = vector<string>
MSmits: Astrobytes nope, also C#
MSmits: ok thanks blasterpoard, will try
Astrobytes: o ok
blasterpoard: MSmits orders might have to be a stringstream
blasterpoard: im not sure
MSmits: me neither :P
MSmits: what language are you using?>
blasterpoard: C++, but I avoid string whenever I can
dror1212: is there a way to know where the enemy started?
MSmits: no
MSmits: that's the point :)
dror1212: ok, just made sure XD
pmor: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/47d86130-b48b-4e4f-9bf2-c533f333209b
pmor: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/b2d24f66-88cb-4c55-a49f-200894884fc7
MSmits: thanks pmor, what is strtok?
pmor: c function that splits a string by a token
MSmits: cool
MSmits: str wont accept string?
blasterpoard: it will probably convert implicitly
blasterpoard: just try putting it there
MSmits: no suitable conversion function from "std::string" to "char *" exists
blasterpoard: if not, theres string::c_str()
Astrobytes: ^
pmor: you need to .c_str() your string
MSmits: k
Astrobytes: And yeah nice, much better than ss pmor
pmor: with std::string, you can also use .find() and substring()
pmor: but I think strtok is a bit simpler
Astrobytes: less hassle at least
pmor: downside is that your working with char*'s...easy to mess it up
Astrobytes: Not like we're gonna continue to operate on them much tho after splitting
Astrobytes: In this case
MSmits: c_str() seems to require a const char*
MSmits: I mean return
MSmits: strtok uses a non-const char*
pmor: (char*)str.c_str()
pmor: or const_cast<char*>(str.c_str())
MSmits: thanks
Astrobytes: Nobody is gonna check your code so use the C-style cast :P
MSmits: people cant check my code because it's unreadable
MSmits: well not yet, but give it time
darkhorse64: Let's say it goes straight to the point
MSmits: what point?
Astrobytes: You tell us! :P
MSmits: I dunno yet :)
darkhorse64: In other words, a direct approach to a problem with no fancy features
MSmits: depends on how you define fancy
darkhorse64: elegant
Astrobytes: Hence C-style casts, bypassing most nice C++ features
MSmits: there's a lot of fancy bit manipulation in my stuff, but I wouldn't call most of it elegant
darkhorse64: smart not fancy
MSmits: right yeah
Astrobytes: *'features'
BenjaminUrquhart: imagine using your actions
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440941743
pmor: I write mainly full c++ normally...but these contests my code is more C-ish than C++ :P
MSmits: if that means you use very few classes then mine is too
PJA: what happens first? movment or torpedo?
Astrobytes: Not just that MSmits, just not utilizing the features of C++
MSmits: ah
MSmits: I probably dont use them either
Astrobytes: *most of the features of modern
MSmits: I would have to know them :P
Hjax: alright! time to get started on this new game :D
Hjax: and by that i mean, time to spend the next few hours parsing the inputs into something useful
BenjaminUrquhart: that's what I just did lol
BenjaminUrquhart: my bot does nothing but move to an available space
Hjax: its surprisingly time consuming just making all of the data structures you want
Hjax: especially when you keep changing your mind like i do
BenjaminUrquhart: it's been 5 hours
BenjaminUrquhart: I'm not done yet
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bad5bddf-72c3-4964-8607-5d6fb755dcc5
MSmits: thats what I used before
Hjax: i mean like, making my representation of the game state
BenjaminUrquhart: I bitboarded for memes
MSmits: so... like 15 uint16_t Hjax?
icecream17: If your opponent does multiple actions what do you see?
Hjax: is bitboarding the play here?
BenjaminUrquhart: action | action | action...
Hjax: i was going to use arrays
MSmits: me too
MSmits: islands[15]
BenjaminUrquhart: it was somehow easier for me to bitboard then use an array
MSmits: whats the difference?
BenjaminUrquhart: well I still use an array
BenjaminUrquhart: private int[] tiles;
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: oh, you mean like map[225] ??
BenjaminUrquhart: map[15][15]
MSmits: right
Hjax: oh i was thinking you meant like, one 225 bit int using some big int class
BenjaminUrquhart: I mean
BenjaminUrquhart: I could
BenjaminUrquhart: but that's just excessive
MSmits: nah, a row almost fits perfectly in 16 bit
Hjax: thats true
BenjaminUrquhart: fixed
private short[] tiles;
Culpit: Hey
BenjaminUrquhart: ok so explain something to me
Culpit: What?
BenjaminUrquhart: in java, shifting a number that's smaller than an int automatically upcats it to int
BenjaminUrquhart: upcasts*
BenjaminUrquhart: why
MSmits: :scream_cat:
Culpit: You sure?
Hjax: he is correct, idk why
Culpit: I guess it's because java is weird
MSmits: that sounds like python shenanigans
struct: well you can change language but you cant change java
struct: easy choice
MSmits: eh, it's not a choice
MSmits: you just gave 1 possibility
MSmits: well I guess that's why it's easy
Astrobytes: Is it even worth botboarding the map? Just thinking aloud
Astrobytes: *bitboarding
MSmits: yeah it is
MSmits: it is super easy to keep track of where the opponent can still be that way
MSmits: very few operations
MSmits: less code and less actual operations
Astrobytes: Hm, yeah.
MSmits: might be harder to write if you're not used to it though
MSmits: i shouldnt have said super easy, its really not
Astrobytes: No not that, just thinking in terms of actual benefit
dbdr: MSmits stop bragging ;)
MSmits: it's just convenient
MSmits: yes, i just realized that sounded like bragging
dbdr: but I know you're not like that
MSmits: not intentionally :P
IAmTheTurtle: concerning ocean of code, i just wrote something to move randomly to valid tiles. Everything was working, i refresh the page, now i'm getting timeout in the first move (after giving the initial position). Anyone else has issues with judge?
Astrobytes: Yeah yeah, go and rub yer lamp :D
Astrobytes: @MSmits
MSmits: are you saying I need wishes to beat you?
MSmits: :)
Astrobytes: No. I just know you love it.
MSmits: guilty
SmellyPickle: what happens if you try and begin on an island
struct: you loose
struct: lose*
icecream17: Okay, now that I figured out how to move, I now need to keep track of the opponent and... win
MSmits: 3 step program
Astrobytes: You insta-lose I think
MSmits: you do
icecream17: It's 5:48? I took way too long....
struct: MSmits after the contest ill share with you the avx knowledge
struct: is not much
struct: But now you wont have time anyways
MSmits: you mean the csb sim?
struct: yes
SmellyPickle: can you move and surface in one turn
Astrobytes: You got it working for the UCT calc struct?
MSmits: yeah, after is fine. Thanks in advance struct
struct: Astrobytes I have done the search yet
struct: I wanted to make a diferent thing
MSmits: doesnt even need to work perfectly, I just need a half-working example
struct: for MCTS
struct: The sim works fine
MSmits: cool
Astrobytes: Oh for parallelizing the tree?
struct: I just dont have search implemented
MSmits: that's fine really
MSmits: they are mostly separate anyway
struct: you will then have an idea how it is at least
struct: and see that is not that complicated
MSmits: yeah
Astrobytes: I feel like I missed something here
emh: seems tough to get into Bronze this time
struct: what Astrobytes»
Astrobytes: the special thing you've done with AVX struct
struct: I havent done anything special
MSmits: he AVX-ed the CSB sim
struct: yes I run 8 sims at once
MSmits: which is a closely guarded secret
MSmits: but not by struct
MSmits: because he is awesome
Astrobytes: Yeah I know, I was just wondering if there was some specific thing
struct: I want to do a different thing for MCTS
struct: I want to store the stuff of the children in the parent
Astrobytes: I'm not going near that shit any time soon that's for fucking sure
struct: instead of in the children
Astrobytes: woops, delete foul language
struct: And only allow 8 moves max
MSmits: you must feel strongly about avx :P
Astrobytes: lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm guessing you can't SURFACE and charge a power?
MSmits: just blame it on the corona Astrobytes
Astrobytes: So have no children?
struct: I will have children
struct: but for children selection
struct: I wont need to do a for loop
struct: because everything will be stored in __m256
struct: that is in parent
Astrobytes: Right OK I got ya
struct: I have no idea if it works
struct: this is just an idea
MSmits: hmm there is 1 problem
Astrobytes: Seems OK in theory
MSmits: you will store the visit count and wins right?
MSmits: in this _m256
struct: yes
MSmits: but nodes have more information
struct: Yes multiple problems
struct: thats why I never did it :p
MSmits: you lose out on some locality... keep the information of a node close together
Illedan: emh yeah, bosses are strong :)
Illedan: But it's a month
Astrobytes: Otherwise you start storing nodeID's or soemthing and everythign will be a mess
Astrobytes: -those spelling errors
MSmits: something and everything are mostly spelled that way afaik
MSmits: noone ever types them correctly
MSmits: like theif
Astrobytes: treu
Astrobytes: :P
Illedan: I'll add:
-those spelling errors
To the end of the statement :D
Astrobytes: hehe
MSmits: :)
struct: Probably it wont work well
struct: But I cant think abaout it now
Astrobytes: Sometimes you have to reinvent Betamax to realise it won't win over VHS struct
struct: never heard of betamax
struct: I guess that proves what you are trying to say
Astrobytes: There's a reason for that :D
Astrobytes: Oui
Astrobytes: I mean yes
struct: Sim?
Astrobytes: Sim waht?
Astrobytes: What
struct: Sim = Yes
Astrobytes: Ah OK Portuguese
MSmits: betamax sounds like a failed minimax
MSmits: I think I wrote many betamax
struct: I failed less times with MCTS than with minimax
struct: I mean It was way faster to make MCTS work
MSmits: well I didnt try so many minimax... usually they work, but they are weak
dbdr: wow, #3 :)
dbdr: never started so strong
MSmits: gj
Waffle3z: I need more opponents to beat
dbdr: but top 2-8 is pretty close
Waffle3z: oh I'm not in first anymore
Waffle3z: had to refresh
dbdr: lol
struct: only if you have waited 30 days
struct: before refreshing
MSmits: yay, I inverted the map
MSmits: x is now .
MSmits: . is now x
MSmits: awesomeness
SmellyPickle: will map always be 15x15
mlomb: The range to fire a torpedo is 4 cells manhattan or euclidean?
MSmits: i hope so SmellyPickle
MSmits: kinda assuming that now
emh: yay bronze
Illedan: hi emh
Illedan: Long time no see
emh: hi Illedan
Illedan: And gratz
hyphz: Sodding Python making pathfinding slow
MSmits: grats
emh: thx :)
mlomb: Sorry I meant if the torpedo fires as a 5x5 grid around the torpedo or as a rhomboid
hyphz: The graphics make it look like it's a 3x3 square
Illedan: Range is BFS
Illedan: The damage is 3x3
dbdr: nice emh
emh: thx :)
mlomb: Ok thx
emh: second in Bronze (so far) and don't even have bitboard hehe
struct: if bitboard was requirement for bronze
struct: I would quit now
MSmits: you really dont need it to get anywhere, I just find it convenient :0
Illedan: Way to early to need bitboards yet :P
emh: 513 lines. but 2 BFSes. duplicated. and just iterating over possible enemy positions
emh: ok good night
MSmits: Got my possible position tracker for opponent working
MSmits: well in wood 2 that is
MSmits: and not for surfacing yet, but should be easy to add
MSmits: off to bed now, gn :0
SeebOmega: good night
SeebOmega: come on i pushed frankh and get stuck before boss
struct: just wait
struct: someone will push you
SeebOmega: About silence distance 0
SeebOmega: is someone knows the behaviour ?
Scarfield: no movement
SeebOmega: yes but the cell already visited is no effect i guess
Scarfield: and you should also be able to only shoot a torpedo without moving for a turn, and surfacing without movement, but im not sure tbh
Scarfield: idk, hope not :)
Illedan: Correct
Illedan: Why do you hope not?
Scarfield: because i think it would be a better game if you are able to stay in place for some situations
Illedan: You can stay in place
SeebOmega: but according to the code i stay silenced i f i use 0
Illedan: yes
SeebOmega: and in the UI i look so tiny (silenced)
Illedan: Yeah, the UI has a bug on that
Illedan: :(
Illedan: I failed when updating the sprites .P
Illedan: You can stand still by doing other commands than MOVE or doing Silence with 0
SeebOmega: if(i == distance){
player.isSilenced = false;
}
SeebOmega: is not reachable if distance = 0
Illedan: That is only for UI
Illedan: I tried to ninja hack the Viewer on top of some spagetti code :P
Illedan: And now I understand why that is a bug in the Viewer :facepalm:
Scarfield: nice that silence 0 is also a way to stay in place, there seems to be a lot of depth actually, nice game :muscle:
SeebOmega: need to send PR on the git or it s ok ?
ronlobo: In wood league there is a command MSG, but it doesn't say what is being used for.
SeebOmega: Thx for followingstream i ll try to do another session with new strat and some music
ronlobo: just throwing this out here...
SeebOmega: ronlobo debug message to display
Scarfield: to message in the viewer, either for extra debugging, or to taunt your opponent :p
ronlobo: how to taunt an AI ...
Astrobytes: Merci pour le stream SEebOmega
ronlobo: thx ;)
AntiSquid: add "|MSG message" at the end of your output ronlobo
lNitsua: for some reason on the new sub game it's giving me each map line twice i think
lNitsua: I'm not good at C, but I'm basically just using the starting code with an added loop to display the line and it's still doing double lines
Scarfield: do you cerr twice?
lNitsua: I feel like an idiot, but what's cerr. I don't use it
struct: cerr outputs to error stream
struct: is just so you can debug stuff
struct: without game referee reading it
Astrobytes: Don't print to stdout unless it's your moves, use stderr for everything else
lNitsua: no, i use the fprintf it recommends. But no
Astrobytes: paste thy code sir
lNitsua: https://pastebin.com/XF3AU5YB
struct: C recomends printf
struct: not c++
lNitsua: it's literally the base code, but with one extra loop to display the map
lNitsua: it prints the top half but at double height for some reason
Astrobytes: seems to print 15 x 15 for me?
lNitsua: it prints 15x15 but it's not correct
Astrobytes: Ah so I see
OmidSafari: HI
lNitsua: it prints each line twice to fit 15x15
lNitsua: I could just ignore a line each time but I'd like to just know what's wrong
AntiSquid: messages for orange player aren't centered below the player
ronlobo: Setting up my Rust env, thanks a bunch to everyone making this puzzle happening!
AntiSquid: Illedan
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/440970192
PatrickMcGinnisII: darn, 1st submit, stuck in wood 2
Waffle3z: second time codingame's ide crashed, just lost code
lNitsua: I just tried doing the exact same thing in java and it worked fine
OmidSafari: I WANT TO SHARE MY PROGRAM WAHT I DO IT?
ronlobo: huh, not developing locally?
Astrobytes: lNitsua just fprintf(stderr,line); will print the map
OmidSafari: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/power-of-thor-episode-1/solution
Astrobytes: lNitsua in that loop
Waffle3z: it just crashed again. it keeps crashing
OmidSafari: PLEASE VOTE
Waffle3z: as soon as I scroll down too far in the ide the page freezes
AntiSquid: OmidSafari what are you trying to do
lNitsua: yeah, but i'm going to parse through each tile like that for my data, so if that doesn't work neither will my code
Waffle3z: freezes when I scroll down to line 100 and the sidebar width changes
OmidSafari: I solved this easy solution i want you say you opinion
AntiSquid: paste your code in chat then
AntiSquid: or go to results and click share
lNitsua: Astobytes doing what you said only prints the first 8 lines
lNitsua: I have never felt so incompetant
struct: Nitsua i tried and also failed
struct: in c++ its easier
lNitsua: I'm trying to learn C tho
lNitsua: but I guess fuck it
Astrobytes: Yeah correct lNitsua, my C is failing me now. I've used C++ for this ... is there soemthing up with the C stub or am I just dumb?
AntiSquid: there's nothing dumber than toilet-paper-zombies, even regular zombies seem smarter
lNitsua: that makes me feel better. Using cpp and java i was able to read through the map easily. I also noticed that literally just error printing new line does it twice
lNitsua: it may just be something with the I/O we dont' know, but it's kinda sus
lNitsua: has anyone here done it in C yet?
Astrobytes: I'm about to go to bed lNitsua but is it something to do with the null terminated strings in C?
Illedan: Submit time :rocket:
AntiSquid: Illedan did you see my message above?
Illedan: No?
Illedan: Where?
AntiSquid: the one where i ping you
AntiSquid: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a7730161-4bbe-429a-958d-03668fa710bd
SmellyPickle: does torpedo friendly fire
Illedan: I see now
Illedan: yes SmellyPickle
Illedan: What about that AntiSquid?
AntiSquid: look at the replay, the MSG is cut off since it's displayed at the edge of the screen for orange
AntiSquid: whereas if i am red i get it displayed normally
Illedan: oh
Illedan: wierd
Astrobytes: Oh I see it
Illedan: th
Illedan: th
Illedan: *thx
Astrobytes: x
Illedan: thx.
Astrobytes: :P
AntiSquid: it's late .
ronlobo: Anybody using Rust here?
Illedan: Wood 1 :D
Astrobytes: STB now Illedan?
Illedan: stb?
Astrobytes: Straight to bronze
Illedan: Gimme 10 min I guess
AntiSquid: so STL = straight to legend ?
Astrobytes: Quite
Astrobytes: STB could also be straight to base, but that's quite a different discussion
Astrobytes: Anyway
Astrobytes: Time to die
Astrobytes: I mean sleep
Illedan: gn
AntiSquid: ya
Astrobytes: gn guys
AntiSquid: idk i randomly woke up
AntiSquid: gn
Illedan: STB :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: 'nite. I quit trying an hour ago. I should log off
icecream17: Hour 4: Still trying to beat boss 1
Waffle3z: what does the wood 2 boss do now? I beat it before it worked
icecream17: It follows you. Shoots when it can
Waffle3z: that's what the wood 1 boss does, except with silence
Illedan: Correct ;)
icecream17: Does wood 1 even exist...?
Waffle3z: if wood 2 doesn't use silence then that makes it a bit easier to track down
icecream17: Oh. Wood 1 is after wood 2...
icecream17: I've never passed a wood league before. I'm so bad at this.
Waffle3z: I keep a grid of possible positions and simulate movement on each one every turn
icecream17: I *think* i'm doing that, but it doesn't seem to work....
Waffle3z: print out a display of the grid of possible positions every turn, see if it matches what you expect
icecream17: it doesn't match... doesn't say it deleted anything. but somehow the array length is decreasing by 1 anyway.
OmidSafari: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/power-of-thor-episode-1
icecream17: The variable is NaN?
icecream17: ugh
Illedan: ^^
icecream17: Hm. move = Number(otherVar)
icecream17: And otherVar = NaN!?
icecream17: NaNi
blaoi: what is the challenge i'm supposed to do after the horse race ?
struct: which ones have you done?
struct: maybe you can do the on going contest?
struct: https://www.codingame.com/contests/ocean-of-code
Cookie_Wookie_7: I saw someone outputting debug info to one of there pods any idea how to do that
struct: should be MSG message
struct: but is not working for me
struct: ah it is
struct: it is below player avatar
struct: so its
struct: cout << "MOVE N TORPEDO | MSG message" << endl;
MostComplicatedUsername: How many cells does the torpedo move per turn?
Waffle3z: all of them
BenjaminUrquhart: 1
MostComplicatedUsername: okie
MostComplicatedUsername: um
newbiecoder: hey yall
BenjaminUrquhart: oh wait
BenjaminUrquhart: I read it backwards
BenjaminUrquhart: torpedos travel instantaneously
MostComplicatedUsername: Where does it say?
BenjaminUrquhart: I just figured out how to deduce the enemy's position and I have to go sleep >.>
MostComplicatedUsername: Have fun?
newbiecoder: my thing is I don not understand which code is easier or anything
MostComplicatedUsername: What is easier than what?
newbiecoder: like which coding system is easier c+ or c# or java javascript? idk
MostComplicatedUsername: python is easier
Waffle3z: try python
newbiecoder: kk
newbiecoder: I still can't understand I mean I am new to this
MostComplicatedUsername: Actually basic easiest
newbiecoder: which is?
MostComplicatedUsername: Basic
MostComplicatedUsername: Visual Basic
MostComplicatedUsername: "VB.NET"
Waffle3z: BASIC and VB.NET are different
Waffle3z: also old
Waffle3z: and probably not easier to learn or use than python
MostComplicatedUsername: Hm
MostComplicatedUsername: Oh you're right
**eulerscheZahl considers VB deprecated
Zenoscave: I agree
Zenoscave: Thanks for the fgame btw Illedan and Euler
mauricioxDxP: size doesnt mean everything
