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Default avatar.png mehdiBm: hi

a-Rye: taco

dannyward630: taco powers

antiwonto: [auto] That taco command has moved to the #taco channel

Wontonimo: go to the #taco channel for that dannyward630 !

Default avatar.png MrWar: hi

AdemDj12: hey

dannyward630: how do i get tacos

dannyward630: ?

dannyward630: ???????????????????????????

dannyward630: please some info?

a-Rye: .

a-Rye: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] Hey a-Rye, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 3 tacos

Thorcode: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] aww, there are no tacos to take

a-Rye: taco!

antiwonto: [auto] Hey a-Rye, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 4 tacos

Default avatar.png Ethyx: taco!

Default avatar.png Ethyx: damn :(

Default avatar.png sobirjon: hello everyone

Default avatar.png sobirjon: :raised_hand:

Default avatar.png gabora: hi

Default avatar.png gabora: working on the mars lander Ep2 atm... anyone tried it?

Uljahn: gabora: sure

Default avatar.png gabora: did you solve it?

Default avatar.png gabora: I am working on it for 2 days :/

Default avatar.png snehil_001:

Default avatar.png snehil_001:

ycsvenom:

Zorg1: white space spamming ?

Zorg1: I hope that Wonto add this spam case in his taco bot to remplace human spamming by bot spamming :D

ycsvenom: actually i thought they are making trim or empty || allSpace checking but they aren't

ycsvenom:

ycsvenom:

ycsvenom:

something

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: hello gays

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

ycsvenom: why xd!

ycsvenom: and hi

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: can u help me

ycsvenom: xsd

ycsvenom: on what?

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: find a job for litlle money

Default avatar.png royal1456: :|

ycsvenom: you asked the wrong person

ycsvenom: i am unemployed

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: fuk

ycsvenom: that's a correct one XD

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: lets make project

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: for money

HoangH7: Hi

ycsvenom: what do you have in mind

ycsvenom: hello

HoangH7: What are you doing right now?

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: hmm i see guy make money from little games they make

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: in steam

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: how they make it

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: look this

ycsvenom: i am trying to be the best problem solver ever

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: vampire survivors

eulerscheZahl: an ambitious goal

ycsvenom: isn't it

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

ycsvenom: i can't even beat you in 100 years eulerscheZahl

ycsvenom: do you know anything about game engines TIKTOK2001?

HoangH7: Are you gen-Z tiktok?

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: i know its very hard when u make it alone

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: but is not impossible

ycsvenom: you didn't answer my question

ycsvenom: and it's not

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: i try unity and unreal 4

ycsvenom: did you make anything with it

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: no

ycsvenom: do have any experience in OOP and Data Structure

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: bec i dont believe i can make it

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: no but information is in youtube internet and is free if u want to learn

ycsvenom: it's a faith you have to pursue programming and make shitty code to be able to make actual games or projects

ycsvenom: i know it's free but no one solves calculus without knowing the basic operations

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: true but i want to fly before walk

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

ycsvenom: it's possible if you work hard enough

ycsvenom: 18 hours a day for a year will make optimus prime

ycsvenom: make you*

ycsvenom: XD

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: true but i cant wait

ycsvenom: then you can't learn either

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: i need money

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: true

ycsvenom: how old are you?

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: 18

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: i learn in university

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: 20* wtf

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: NBU in bulgaria

ycsvenom: learn need patience

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: true

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: but i can look kids make milion

ycsvenom: no born a scientist every person born stupid as f but we all learned if you want to excel at programming you have to die practicing

ycsvenom: they already learned in young age

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: yea

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: xd

Default avatar.png TIKTOK2001: so i nedd years of practising to make shit

ycsvenom: it depends on your knowledge if you learned shit you will not make anything but shit XD

PatrickMcGinnisII: yall are ridiculous. me age 11, made games in ASM on 8 bit computers w/ very little information, no market. Yall age 18, big market 64 bit computers big info. ... too lazy. We both learn more in our rooms answering hard questions by experimentation than any college could provide. I'll shut up now

ycsvenom: PatrickMcGinnisll Hooray ,Congratulations you are better than every creature

PatrickMcGinnisII: ut servir deo

ycsvenom: do you speak latin?

PatrickMcGinnisII: no, it's my family motto

ycsvenom: oh

ycsvenom: c3VudCBtdXNsaW0/IA==

PatrickMcGinnisII: that's not md5, so what is it?

PatrickMcGinnisII: e35f23db2d37eef4622b795b5fe6a9c8

DaNinja: looks like mime base64

PatrickMcGinnisII: No not muslim

PatrickMcGinnisII: tx DaNinja

PatrickMcGinnisII: it's 70 degrees F here, gonna be a beutiful day

dbf: collision-detection algo in real life: https://gfycat.com/alivedelicioushapuku :)

PatrickMcGinnisII: diy: https://www.walmart.com/ip/13300764-Car-Bumper-Reverse-Backup-Parking-Distance-Assist-Sensor-for/961813005?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=571&adid=22222222222164507816&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=75110462346992&wl4=pla-4578710030486574&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&wl10=Walmart&wl11=Online&wl12=961813005_10000000599&wl14=caar+collision+detector+sensor&veh=sem&msclkid=ba5d18a727e11daa17a37af5d58710c3&gclsrc=ds

jacek: longer link plx

PatrickMcGinnisII: sry, didn't see it

eulerscheZahl: "it's 70 degrees F here, gonna be a beutiful day"

most of us are Europeans, we use Celsius

Passifi: and know how to spell

eulerscheZahl: and if you tell me you are 6'3, i don't know how tall you are

MSmits: maybe he was talking about an F-angle being 70 degrees?

jacek: oO

eulerscheZahl: did some trigonometry for the featured puzzle

MSmits: I still have to finish it

PatrickMcGinnisII: lol,185cm

MSmits: know how to do it, but have been lazy coding it

MSmits: it's a cool puzzle

eulerscheZahl: i'm not sure, why my escape code works, but it's all green

eulerscheZahl: so i'll take it

eulerscheZahl: are you clearing your desk to get some time for the upcoming contest?

MSmits: isn't it like 3 parts: Move to center, get to the opposite side of the cat on the edge of the circle within which the cat is circling faster, then dash ?

eulerscheZahl: dash?

MSmits: mouse I mean

MSmits: yeah run to edge

Wontonimo: yup, those are the 3 parts i did

eulerscheZahl: that's pretty much what I do. but my math tells me i'm going to get eaten. and i still run for it and survive

MSmits: But yea, i'll join the contest.

MSmits: Most of it is a vacation week for me, so lucky

eulerscheZahl: same for me. but not by coincidence ;)

MSmits: aha

MSmits: so will they do one of these a year now?

eulerscheZahl: no idea

MSmits: ah ok

eulerscheZahl: with the loss of the mod badge i also lost a source of insider info

MSmits: I hope it's not a rehashed contest where people can mostly submit their old code

Wontonimo: it is telling that they went back to it after trying the escape maze

MSmits: could be they just want diversity

eulerscheZahl: that's what CG wrote on the mods channel, Wontonimo?

Wontonimo: true

Wontonimo: nothing

eulerscheZahl: ah

Wontonimo: it's pretty dead there

MSmits: oh by the way, professor X got back to me about oware

eulerscheZahl: by the way I know CG, they don't even know the format of the next contest themselves yet

MSmits: he's going to play a game with me

eulerscheZahl: cool

eulerscheZahl: when?

MSmits: but still waiting for scheduling options

MSmits: mailing is slow, he responded to my application like a month later

ethaneCH3CH3: #taco

eulerscheZahl: /join taco

eulerscheZahl: try that

eulerscheZahl: maybe he has a lot of games to play

MSmits: yeah could be

MSmits: or just busy

MSmits: he says he wants to try a game up until i hit my endgame book and then use the rest of the game to verify it

eulerscheZahl: the prof for my final thesis wasn't that quick at responding either

MSmits: we should get the same results when 12 seeds are captured since we both solved it then

jacek: oh my

jacek: youre doing that playok thing?

MSmits: yeah

jacek: nice

eulerscheZahl: beat him. eat him alive and dance on his grave. you got this

MSmits: will certainly try :)

MSmits: i boosted my meta mcts code today

MSmits: added some ab pruning to the solving part

ethaneCH3CH3: join my clash?

ethaneCH3CH3: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/233613622ff3f1567e35cbd80daf699988f4d2f

antiwonto: [auto] hey ethaneCH3CH3 dont paste those links here. Use the channel #clash

MSmits: he can cheat though. If he avoids capture moves, he can outlast my meta mcts

eulerscheZahl: thanks antiwonto

eulerscheZahl: but he doesn't know that

MSmits: if he's smart he does

MSmits: he probably is if he solved oware :P

eulerscheZahl: we'll see is his claims are true

MSmits: that's true. But he already beat the world champion

MSmits: but i kinda figure jacek would beat the world champion too

eulerscheZahl: did you just tell him that you want to play or also about your approach?

jacek: on solved drawn game?

MSmits: told him some of my approach

MSmits: yeah jacek, i dont mean you'd beat his database, i mean the best human player

jacek: should tell him about CG's oware

MSmits: yeah will do if i get a chance

jacek: i think even my old non NN would beat best human

eulerscheZahl: use the in-game chat during the match and distract him

MSmits: I might

MSmits: maybe he'll do an input error :P

eulerscheZahl: just saw that I won a dollar :o https://i.imgur.com/9VLOIPs.png

MSmits: yay!

eulerscheZahl: a week of hard work paying off

MSmits: indeed

MSmits: first place?

MSmits: heavily sponsored contest i guess ?

eulerscheZahl: well, counts towards a 3 month period leaderboard. i might have qualified for finals (still 1 match going)

MSmits: ohh ok

MSmits: maybe you'll win more dollars

eulerscheZahl: would be in the US, the trip alone is in the 4 digits

MSmits: but the first dollar is free

eulerscheZahl: no, they would pay the trip too

MSmits: oh nice

MSmits: make sure you get a return ticket too

MSmits: otherwise you'll have to sneak on some oil tanker or some such

eulerscheZahl: great tip

MSmits: is this google hash code or something else?

eulerscheZahl: topcoder open

MSmits: ahh ok

eulerscheZahl: https://tco22.topcoder.com/competition/marathon?tracks[marathon-tabs]=0&tracks[mm-tco22]=1

eulerscheZahl: bad URL, you have to copy it

eulerscheZahl: and leaderboard isn't updated yet

MSmits: Do you still get better over time?

MSmits: you've been doing this for quite a while

eulerscheZahl: i think that yes: i am still improving. partially on a mental level, having trust in my own abilities

MSmits: ahh well good

MSmits: I think i still improve as well, but my performance on contests drops because my obsessiveness reduces faster than my skill increases :)

eulerscheZahl: i know what you are talking about

eulerscheZahl: less sleepless nights, thinking about the problem

MSmits: exactly

jacek: less sleepless?

MSmits: he means fewer

MSmits: he's not less sleepless

MSmits: he has fewer of those nights

eulerscheZahl: more sleepful

MSmits: oh

jacek: ah

MSmits: either way works :P

jacek: sleepfewer

eulerscheZahl: ~ less sleepless sleepless: No such file or directory

DomiKo: MSmits google hash code don't have trip :(

MSmits: it did before I think

jacek: but they banned acid

eulerscheZahl: i'd rather do it remotely tbh

DomiKo: But now is endless covid time

MSmits: true

DomiKo: And btw Euler how was yours Hashcode? Because I never asked

eulerscheZahl: 118th i think

eulerscheZahl: started well but ran out of ideas quickly

eulerscheZahl: did you qualify for finals again?

eulerscheZahl: i know that kovi made it

DomiKo: I never qualified before. My friends did.

eulerscheZahl: oh, sorry. did you qualify this time?

DomiKo: Yeah, first time :D

eulerscheZahl: congrats then

DomiKo: 29th

eulerscheZahl: 1 behind team pani iirc. that's kovi

DomiKo: nice

DomiKo: We was 1st for like a hour, and then we could improve

eulerscheZahl: my bad, it's ANIP

kovi: oh, gratz DomiKo! (we were 26th)

DomiKo: Its always funny how this contest is about sorting thing in the right way

DomiKo: gratz you too

eulerscheZahl: it's a heuristics contest

eulerscheZahl: too huge inputs for some serious optimization in that short amount of time

DomiKo: But there are some subtasks

DomiKo: This time subtask (E) was really simple

eulerscheZahl: maybe that's my mistake. i always try to code a generic solution and ignore the special properties of each testcase

kovi: generic greedy is important imho

DomiKo: it is but it won't win the contest

kovi: than it can be finetuned or localopted

kovi: finetuned/localopted-toward specfic testcases separately

kovi: for the finals i started looking errichtos yt

DomiKo: So if finals were onsite I would get the chance to meet Kovi wow

DomiKo: now I miss them even more

eulerscheZahl: let's do topcoder marathons instead. stage 4 just started

eulerscheZahl: with an optim on wednesday

eulerscheZahl: and tourist will be there too

DomiKo: but I've met him before

eulerscheZahl: you've beaten him in kart driving

DomiKo: WOW

DomiKo: you remember lol

eulerscheZahl: wow?

eulerscheZahl: ah

eulerscheZahl: sometimes i have an surprisingly accurate memory, even after years. other times i quickly forget things

eulerscheZahl: like when inoryy trained a NN chatbot based on MK

eulerscheZahl: i completely forgot that until reCurse mentioned it. then 2 years later he surprised me again and pulled up old chatlogs from the first time he told me about it

DomiKo: interesting

Wontonimo: but isn't that just regular human memory ... very selective to the observer

eulerscheZahl: probably

DomiKo: but sometimes we surprise even ourselves

Wontonimo: i'm surprised that i remember anything at all tbh

DomiKo: xd

Wontonimo: the more I learn about Neuralnets, the more I question human intelligence

MSmits: the more i learn about humans, the more I question human intelligence

DomiKo: :joy:

Wontonimo: coming from a teacher :scream:

MSmits: well i deal with a selection of humans

MSmits: they are not representative of the species

jacek: he trains human NNs

MSmits: yeah

jacek: to overfit in final exams

MSmits: they do that :(

Wontonimo: and they believe that is the ;

Wontonimo: and more sad, they believe that is the point

MSmits: well i guess they know it's not, but that doesn't change their behavior

MSmits: knowing and doing are different things

PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, my GF is a teacher... she is untrainable

MSmits: thankfully next year I no longer teach any physics. It's a lot less about exams with computer science

MSmits: mostly about creativity and solving problems

DomiKo: true

Wontonimo: oh, I thought you enjoyed the physics

MSmits: I do enjoy it, just not as much as CS. Also, I was mostly referring to the exam-part of it

Wontonimo: and you put so much into developing the course, it's a shame you can't reuse all that work

MSmits: physics has a national bar where every student has to pass the same exam

MSmits: CS is whatever the teacher makes of it and there is no national exam

Wontonimo: I did something like that for AP Physics way back in '89

eulerscheZahl: wait a few years until the higher ups hear that computers and such exist

MSmits: Wontonimo well I guess I spent some time making powerpoints, tests and experiments, but I reused them a lot.

MSmits: they just renewed the CS curriculum, i mean there are some demands on what I teach in the class, but they are very vague

MSmits: like the AI part is described in maybe 3 sentences

MSmits: in physics, every part of it is described exactly and if you deviate slightly your students grades will be lower

MSmits: you know exactly all the formula's they have to be able to use and other skills they need to have

Wontonimo: I do believe in national (or world) testing standards for some things. Of course it can be perverted easily

MSmits: all the scientific terms etc.

MSmits: yeah it's good that they exist

MSmits: but for a teacher it's not a fun thing to be so limited in your choices

MSmits: your only choice is how to teach, not what to teach

MSmits: in CS it's how to teach and 80% of what to teach

Wontonimo: that's fun, and I bet stressful for some teachers

MSmits: yeah especially if your grades are low

MSmits: thankfully mine were always ok

Wontonimo: I'd like that freedom

MSmits: oh you mean stressful to have choices

MSmits: well there's premade stuff you can use

MSmits: I think it's not good enough so I make my own

MSmits: boring theory stuff. I like it when my students are actually making things using what they learn

MSmits: with some theory stuff sprinkled in

MSmits: me and my colleague set up our own Moodle environment with a lot of courses and each year we make the curriculum by selecting from the courses we created

MSmits: we have an AI course, 2 programming courses, HTML/CSS etc.

MSmits: exercises with automatic feedback and such are built in. It's a very relaxed way of teaching. They just go and I walk around and help out

jacek: its fun when i could finally used the physics formula in the game engine and see them for myself

MSmits: yeah that's exactly why we do this. Their first programming experience is the python turtle thing where they write code to make squares and such

MSmits: the final assignment is making your own christmas card

MSmits: with code

jacek: all these squares make a circle...

MSmits: what reference is that?

jacek: dbz abridged

eulerscheZahl: random video for the python teacher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgxklT94W0I&ab_channel=Programmersarealsohuman

jacek: searching random videos with python tag is quite risky

eulerscheZahl: wasn't searching for it. nick chapsas got me on that channel

MSmits: well that just might be the data google has on you jacek :p

MSmits: funny video :)

eulerscheZahl: there's a 2nd one about python https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnL9vAFphmE&ab_channel=Programmersarealsohuman

Scarfield: soon enough you will teach Yavalath theory

MSmits: maybe when I get too many students

jacek: you can teach this https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aVXPWyO/aQRDVRWX_700w_0.jpg

MSmits: cool

Default avatar.png Justin_Lowry: im live on twitch if any1 wants to watch

jacek: clashy?

Wontonimo: oh my eulerscheZahl, that video has TOO many zooms. Funny, just making me dizzy

Wontonimo: "I just learned that on ude ... I mean medium an hour ago" :joy:

Default avatar.png madmax7874: Hello! check out my first contribution :grinning:

https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/13677e96ec74768347d9f9444c0114fde629a

Westicles: there's no point in writing a description for reverse, nobody will see it

Wontonimo: the first validator does not match the edge cases of the first test

Wontonimo: match the tests and validators around the same edge cases

Wontonimo: your first test does not use repeats

Wontonimo: a better first validator would be 1 EA DA KA KA NA = HELLO

Kawaii-san_Shadow_Wolf: wsp

Wontonimo: exact same edge cases, exact same logic, proves validation isn't hard coded to test madmax7874

Westicles: doesn't matter, smurfs approval

Default avatar.png madmax7874: yaa no point in writing one but it asked for it so i wrote it lol

Default avatar.png madmax7874: i started with no repeat and then went to repeats and then random chars

Wontonimo: looks like 2 people already approved. I doubt they did the whole process of approval

Wontonimo: including creating a solution, verifying that it can be done for them in 5 min, making sure the template code works in all languages

Default avatar.png madmax7874: what is your doubt @Wontonimo ? I hope i will solve it

Westicles: It is too hard for a reverse

jacek: that what she...

Default avatar.png madmax7874: I actually had another key for count character encryption as well, i removed it cause that felt difficult

Westicles: how is some 12 year old supposed to figure this out?

Default avatar.png madmax7874: its easy by looking at the tc now

Wontonimo: these two other accounts that have approved your contribution seem all too sus about how fast they have approved and are not sharing their original solution

Wontonimo: usually contribs take about 2-3 weeks to get approval, so it's really sus when your first gets 2 approvals within minutes

Default avatar.png madmax7874: I created this clash a few days back, not today

Wontonimo: true

OussamaOz: MOROCCO

Darleanow: guys !!

Darleanow: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/13809523b6f4264412cb3a43a7c45c16f967a


Darleanow: if you guys think it's okay, upvote it, at 5 i'll mark it up as ready ! :)

Wontonimo: for what it is worth, madmax7874 and the two approvers all have different IPs, so that's nice

eulerscheZahl: somehow i always feel the urge to downvote when someone asks me to upvote

VizGhar: :thumbsup:

eulerscheZahl: also: we already have 34 fibonacci puzzles :o https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/?q=fibonacci&category=ANY&title=on&statement=on&tests=on&comments=on&tags=on&author=on

VizGhar: especially CoC

Default avatar.png madmax7874: how did you check my ip bruh

Wontonimo: I'm a mod

eulerscheZahl: via forum, moderation tools

Darleanow: go ahead, i juust want opinions !:)

Default avatar.png madmax7874: ooo

PatrickMcGinnisII: what VizGhar said

eulerscheZahl: let's return a program, that would be an original task actually

eulerscheZahl: print("program code for printing fibonacci numbers")

eulerscheZahl: well, we kind of have that for CGFunge prime

Wontonimo: hey Darleanow, what euler is saying is that there is already a lot of fib contributions. do something different

Darleanow: aight wonto :)

Darleanow: thanks

Wontonimo: if you are looking for feedback (to help with your next contrib) , don't have 'python-like' output. instead of [1, 1, 2, 3] as the output, instead have 1 1 2 3

eulerscheZahl: nothing personal, it also annoys me when youtubers ask me to like and subscribe. i skip that part, even if i know it's just 5 seconds

Default avatar.png madmax7874: please check my contri and tell me what else can i do better

Wontonimo: please make the changes I suggested to the test/validate. The 1st test and 1st validate should be related to the same scenario, as with the 2nd and 2nd, etc

Default avatar.png madmax7874: yes i made those changes

Westicles: make it fastest instead of reverse

Andriamanitra: i don't think reverse needs to be removed necessarily, but yeah i would add fastest

Default avatar.png madmax7874: okay, added fastest and shortest mode as well

Wontonimo: thanks for making those changes. i've removed the rejection

Default avatar.png madmax7874: thank you for your help :grinning:

how about u convert that rejected into approved :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Wontonimo: as a suggestion, your test2/validator2 introduce 2 new changes : different N and second character other than A. Just do one or the other

Default avatar.png madmax7874: second character other than A is already in test 1

Wontonimo: to help approvers test all languages, make the default stub output the answer to test1. This makes it very easy for approvers to go through all languages and make sure they all work

Default avatar.png madmax7874: okay will do it

eulerscheZahl: do you seriously test all languages when validating?

eulerscheZahl: not even I do that. and i think i'm a thorough reviewer

Wontonimo: yes, it's easy when the stub outputs the first test

Default avatar.png madmax7874: done

eulerscheZahl: i check the generated code for a few languages to see special cases. but definitely not all 25

Westicles: I generally check Fortran, Octave, and Julia as well to make sure it is future-proof

eulerscheZahl: troll

jacek: dont forget rust

Wontonimo: I also removed my downvote madmax7874. Thanks for genuinely listening.

eulerscheZahl: java and c# have different codes for instance to parse an array. one does a readline().split(), the other uses an input scanner

Default avatar.png madmax7874: thanks wonto

eulerscheZahl: plain C important to check for strings, checking the length

Scarfield: Wholesomino

Westicles: great, let's do touching balls next

antiwonto: [auto] Westicles be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

PatrickMcGinnisII: Westicles import contraception;

**PatrickMcGinnisII pokes antiwonto

Default avatar.png madmax7874: 70 people saw the clash, only 2 upvotes oooof

Shrimpster: F

Default avatar.png madmax7874: :cry:

Scarfield: 68 downvotes would be an oof, some people just look, but not necesarilly want to engage enough to actually go through the process of testing

Default avatar.png madmax7874: fair point

Scarfield: :)

a-Rye: lol madmax7874 1,966 people have looked at my playground...only 16 people liked it. Ok ok, 15 and myself :sweat_smile:

Kawaii-san_Shadow_Wolf: hows everyone

Default avatar.png madmax7874: omg a-Rye :joy:

cold audience haha

Default avatar.png madmax7874: im in pre final year, i wish codingame comes on my campus for placements:heart_eyes:

VizGhar: Yeah... but have you noticed? The Troll vs Castles is resubmitted :|

Scarfield: 290 on the leaderboard for a contrib xD

Westicles: Wontonimo, please go visit Dwarkadas

Wontonimo: what is that?

Wontonimo: and no, i'm not going to google it

Westicles: madmax's school

Wontonimo: oh. if you are paying, sure!

Scarfield: antiwonto lmgtfy dwarkadas

Wontonimo: remove the anitwonto prefix

Scarfield: lmgtfy dwarkadas

Wontonimo: lmgtfy Scarfield dwarkadas

antiwonto: [auto] hey Scarfield let me google that for you https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=dwarkadas

Scarfield: Wontonimo taco

Wontonimo: the lmgtfy is poorly documented ;(

Default avatar.png madmax7874: its cool though

Scarfield: you cant give out tacos oO

Wontonimo: i'm planning on moving all but give taco to the taco channel. anyone object seriously?

Wontonimo: all taco commands

a-Rye: I dunno, I think the tacos add to the world chat

Scarfield: oh did see taco channel mentioned yesterday, forgot about it

a-Rye: see? we can't let the tacos vanish...

Westicles: move it to #fr instead

PatrickMcGinnisII: :joy::sweat_smile::sob:

Default avatar.png PainEXE: #asdda

Scarfield: hmm not sure, it would be more fun to have it in world, but in can get "obnoxious" when it takes over the chat

Default avatar.png PainEXE: what the

Default avatar.png PainEXE: u can just make infinite chats?

Scarfield: #taco

Default avatar.png PainEXE: #taco2

a-Rye: #T@c0_1337

Wontonimo: small number of users / infinite chat rooms = average of zero users per chatroom

Scarfield: infinite sum of zero = infinity :thinking:

Scarfield: :p

jacek: zerofield

VizGhar: How do you guys debug tree searching algos in multis (BFS, DFS, BEAM, MCTS)? Thats where I use to struggle

Wontonimo: unit tests are my friend for those

VizGhar: No visualisation?

Wontonimo: nope. for example, my UTTT code is about 550 lines of C++, and in addition to that i have 650 lines of C++ unit tests

VizGhar: mg :D ok thanks

Wontonimo: Here is an example of a DFS unit test answer I gave on SO https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64974829/search-not-working-for-river-crossing-problem-in-python/64993148#64993148

Wontonimo: notice, there isn't much unit test in the way of the actual DFS recursion, but all the previous unit tests really raise confidence in where the errors arn't

VizGhar: Are tests something you tend to use during contests as well?

Wontonimo: sigh ... not as much as for multis. But I reuse my mcts and alphabeta code from multis and focus my unit tests on making sure the simulation rules are bang on

VizGhar: :thumbsup: ty :) I need another year to excel

VizGhar: (I was talking about UTTT too, not that I put too much time into it but yeah)

Wontonimo: ?!? what? When I joined you inspired me to excel

Wontonimo: :grin:

VizGhar: Not sure about that, but you are welcome

VizGhar: :P\

jacek: UTTT eh

Scarfield: jaceh

jacek: optimizing super mario 64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_rzYnXEQlE

VizGhar: oh my... imagine having any free time to do this :D I'll have to wait till I'm 60

Shrimpster: I don't have any unit tests and 600 lines of code :)

jacek: unit tests are for noobs. only productions tests are pro

python_dev: in my view you are wrong

Shrimpster: yo jacek what does one have to do to break top 20 legendary? Normal MCTS solver isn't enough

Wontonimo: good way of making sure you are on call to fight production fires jacek, and with that you can probably charge more because you'll be the onlyone who knows where the bugs come from

VizGhar: He is allowed to be wrong, he is owning many multis python_dev :P

Wontonimo: go NN Shrimpster

Shrimpster: me or jace VizGhar ?

jacek: Shrimpster teccles opening; decisive/anti-decisive moves; some bonus for moves that win small board; some penalty for giving opponent more mobility

python_dev: what are multis?

Shrimpster: yeah Wontonimo, I've thought of that, maybe jacek could tell me something more precise I wanted to know

jacek: and yes, mine is NN

Westicles: i got to bronze in tron

jacek: :tada:

VizGhar: Shrimpster I was talking about jace

Wontonimo: woot ! way to multi Westicles

VizGhar: :nerd:

Shrimpster: What do you mean decisive and antidecisive moves jacek ?

jacek: do you make all completely random moves in rollouts?

Shrimpster: Yeah

jacek: or every move checks for 1-ply win and if there is one, it chooses it?

Wontonimo: I played with 2x weight for corners and centre

Shrimpster: ah you mean if there's a winning move for a small gridcell to chose it?

jacek: overall game

jacek: though you can give more probabilty for winning small board

Shrimpster: isn't that too expensive?

Wontonimo: optimize it ;)

Shrimpster: Words of a true master Wontonimo

jacek: depends on game, i think it gave me ~55% winrate

jacek: in othello it would be useless. in yavalath its a must-have

Wontonimo: oh wow, we are neck-and-neck Shrimpster !

jacek: and there is some paper for havannah https://hal.inria.fr/inria-00495078/document

Shrimpster: yeah we're next to each other, I'm not good enough to optimize the exploration parameter :joy:

jacek: do you have local arena where you pit your bots?

Shrimpster: no

Wontonimo: he caught up to me with it :scream_cat:

Shrimpster: that's what Im too lazy to do

jacek: i do some semi-manual binary search of C and other parameters

jacek: and some params can be surprising

jacek: like 0.5 vs sqrt(2)

jacek: then 0.25 vs 0.5

Wontonimo: if you want to go NN then you'll have to get a local pit going

Shrimpster: Okk ty I'll make a pit then I guess :innocent:

jacek: pity

jacek: MSmits youre not 1st in Y? :O

MSmits: oh did not know that

MSmits: ohh ok Robo improved his NN

MSmits: or changed it a bit, hard to say

MSmits: I'll work on it some time :)

flofromproggresive: how are beginners supposed to do like any of these clash problems lol

flofromproggresive: my and multiple friends struggle to near any done and we all took prog 1 and 2 in college

flofromproggresive: granted not with the worlds best teacher but still this is supposed to be for newbies

Majeck: Lolz

jacek: MSmits royale probably did NN

Majeck: Start with puzzles my man

MSmits: ohh ok, got pushed then

jacek: and yes, do easy puzzles first

flofromproggresive: ive done them up to the AI route but youre right i suppose i should do more

jacek: like the descent, power of thor, temperattures

Majeck: flofromproggresive Clash forces you to be fluent in your language, to be able to write what you're thinking

flofromproggresive: oh

flofromproggresive: well theres the problem

flofromproggresive: lol

Majeck: flofromproggresive Definitely start with practice puzzles

flofromproggresive: ok guys, thank you

flofromproggresive: :)

Majeck: Get to solve medium puzzles comfortably and then you'll be great at clash

flofromproggresive: :heart_eyes:

jacek: :upside_down:

antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '

Majeck: @antiwonto can you speak on your own?

MSmits: yay https://www.codingame.com/replay/618728359

MSmits: i gave up on the trigonometry and just used a loop to find the right target :)

MSmits: target the opposite bank from the cat, then move back down the line to the mouse until it's in range

MSmits: hope that's not a spoiler, still have to code it ofc. Easier than it sounds. Still had to scale some vector and such

HoneyGlazedGherkinsEggTartare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF_-ob9vseM

Passifi: Seeing that nickname confirms my fear that we have run out of reasonable names to have, we must reset society soon

Westicles: German military spending up €100 billion :thinking:

SenzuBean: what's going on

Default avatar.png Nicora: chillin

Default avatar.png Nicora: codin

Passifi: I have no faith in my people properly destroying the world. We lost our evil edge. Our passion for hatred. If we want the world to burn we need to get switzerland involved

Passifi: or some nation even more evil

Westicles: maybe canada, those guys are vicious

Passifi: I want a reset not for the planet to be uninhabitble afterwards, can you imagine a dead planet covered in maple syrup *shudder*

Shrimpster: Evilness has left Europe I think, we need to get our claws back

Shrimpster: Yeah maple syrup :yum:

Wontonimo: by the late 90's Canada was responsible for 80% of all landmine manufacturing in the world. Although I love Canada, we were not always the happy go lucky maple syrup drinking igloo livin people

Passifi: Oh I always knew you were evil, ever since I heard that maple syrup is this ridiculously expensive because of some seriously over the top lobby stuff.

Passifi: I wanted to google that and then I found out that canada has a maple syrup reserve.... that is so cute I can't be mad at you guys.. ^^

Westicles: And all their SorryMate landmines apologized after blowing your leg off

Wontonimo: and free healthcare to fix it

Wontonimo: and a monthly allowance to help you take time off work to recover

Passifi: might come because of your neighbor to the south but pretty much all of europe has free healthcare and pays you when your leg gets blown off :relaxed: plus we don't have to deal with a wave of us fugitives every time a republican president gets elected

Passifi: ha it's good to live in the old world

Wontonimo: we have the second largest country in the world and a population less than half of Germany. More educated liberals coming to our country? Cool

Wontonimo: someone just needs to tell them that hiking across the border in the middle of winter without proper mittens will lead to the loss of your hands ;(

HoneyGlazedGherkinsEggTartare: Canada — 9,879,750 km² China — 9,600,013 km² China is warmer

Passifi: frankly i didn't even think that canada had 40 million people.. . but the more you know

Wontonimo: if you count all the land that China has purchased in Africa lately to fulfill its food needs, then it is the second largest for sure.

Passifi: and I didn't know it was bigger than china :sweat_smile:

Westicles: Canada has all that oil sand, or as we call it in the US, our retirement plan

Wontonimo: i don't get it Westicles

Wontonimo: :thinking:

Westicles: when the oil runs out we'll come knocking

Westicles: we'll give you star 51, you'll love it

Wontonimo: yup. It's a fine line between being able to get a premium on a limited resource vs encouraging others to take it by force. That's one reason why Canada sells it's water for cheap

Passifi: Invading a cold country doesn't usually bode well for the invaders , napoleon made that discovery along with other european nations throughout history

Passifi: New Model Army taught me that one already belongs to britain

Wontonimo: US 2902 km3 of fresh water , Canada 2840 km3 of fresh water but 1/10th the population... so nearly 10 times the fresh water per person.

Wontonimo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_renewable_water_resources

Passifi: anyways been staring at my code for a while now and no ideas are coming, except terrible images of mountain rangers storming our beaches... so have a nice well I guess its not night for you guys so err day :) bye

Wontonimo: what are you working on?

Wontonimo: oh, gn then

a-Rye: taco?

antiwonto: [auto] Hey a-Rye, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 5 tacos

a-Rye: yay!

zakacat: taco?

antiwonto: [auto] Hey zakacat, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 1 tacos

zakacat: darn tootin

zakacat: how can I search for puzzles by keyword

zakacat: like I wanna practice BSTs

Wontonimo: have you tried the search box at the top?

Ayza: I am assuming he means searching it by the skills like Memoization, recursion, loops, etc

zakacat: I do yah, I think that search only shows users?

zakacat: maybe I am mistaken

Wontonimo: you can click on any skill and it will take you to a page that groups puzzles by that skill

Wontonimo: for example, if you go to my page https://www.codingame.com/profile/d0699d9a8e4995e142b0a5cf6a16e1934361804 and scroll down to the skills

Wontonimo: then click on one, like Pathfinding it will take you here https://www.codingame.com/learn/pathfinding

Wontonimo: show you a nice graphic of pathfinding, some external links, and related puzzles and multis

Wontonimo: uh, I've only completed 13% of the pathfinding puzzles. weird.

Wontonimo: does that help zakacat ?

zakacat: Um, yes it does haha, so they don't have a feature yet to navigate by a directory of tags

zakacat: It is nice that I can find the collection after I click the tag

zakacat: but it is kinda just searching around until I find the tag I want

zakacat: but!

zakacat: I did find a Binary Tree puzzle to try

zakacat: so, we are all good

zakacat: I'd love to try and make some puzzles this summer.

ZndrBrok: Hi guys, any tips on how to calculate the speed of the pod in mad pod racing ? #NoobLifeMatter

Wontonimo: yes,

Wontonimo: it isn't too complicated

Wontonimo: create a new variable

Wontonimo: at the end of your main game loop assign it the values of x and y

Wontonimo: prev_x = x prev_y = y

Wontonimo: then in your game loop your velocity is

Wontonimo: velocity_x = x - prev_x

Wontonimo: same with y

Wontonimo: when you declare prev_x and prev_y do it above the main game loop so they are not re-initialized

Wontonimo: does that help ZndrBrok ?

ZndrBrok: Yes that help but i am a little bit tired, can u explain me the difference between the speed of my pod and x_velocity + y_velocity ? If i want to show the speed of my pod how can i use the x & y velocity ?

Wontonimo: you don't need your speed that i know of.

Wontonimo: but to figure the sum of 2 dimensions that are at 90 degrees from eachother use the sqrt of the squares like so

Wontonimo: sqrt( x_vel^2 + y_vel^2 )

zakacat: the resultant vector

zakacat: :nerd:

Wontonimo: indeed

ZndrBrok: I love u guys!

ZndrBrok: Thx

Wontonimo: why do you need that ?

ZndrBrok: haha

ZndrBrok: I know i don't need it but i have seen an ennemy pod who showed the speed in a white-box and i finded that cool... :P PS: I just get to bronze and seying my speed in real time will help me see the inpact of my changes with the thrust !

ZndrBrok: At least, it's what i think!

Wontonimo: congrats! getting to bronze without anyone spoiling it for you is a good accomplishment

ZndrBrok: Thx for yout help!

ZndrBrok: Really ?

ZndrBrok: thx haha

Wontonimo: have you heard of PID controllers? It's what makes cruise control work and autopilot

Wontonimo: here is a paper on it https://w3.cs.jmu.edu/spragunr/CS354_F17/handouts/pid.pdf

Wontonimo: if you are calculating speed (which is the derivative of position over time) you are already calculating the D of PID

Wontonimo: P = position. So you've got 2 of 3 already and arguably the I (integration) is optional

ZndrBrok: I have seen an external-link to wikipedia but i havn't dive in it!

ZndrBrok: Okok, i will dive in that tomorow after a good night of sleep!

Wontonimo: that paper I linked is the best, easiest read, that i've found

ZndrBrok: Thx for all; i really appreciate it!

Wontonimo: if you find something better PLEASE let me know

Wontonimo: yeah, np

ZndrBrok: Yes, it's a lot beter than wikipedia article haha

ZndrBrok: i will !

ZndrBrok: But i doubt i will find better than u :P

ZndrBrok: Have a good day/night!

Wontonimo: thanks (night for me)

zakacat: good night, thanks for the info

Nik05: Got a hole book on that stuff. Not sure how much I still know about it..

Wontonimo: about PID or autopilot and cruise control?

Nik05: Control Systems

Wontonimo: yeah, i had a course in it long ago. Totally forgot its application to physics systems like this

Wontonimo: if you have that knowhow Nik05 , you could probably get to mid Gold in Mad Pod Racing and also finish out Mars lander 2 easy enough

zakacat: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] aww, there are no tacos to take

Nik05: I will try later Wontonimo

Nik05: was first doing that mouse pool thing, was way over complicating it...

zakacat: what is an example of a control system that isn't physical?

zakacat: I skimmed that pdf. looks cool. I am def gonna come back to that. I just finished Calc 2

Nik05: But seeing other solutions, it looks like most people found the solution elsewhere. They use the same naming for actions to take...

zakacat: and I would like to use it practically

zakacat: I def just brute forced that mouse problem

Nik05: Maybe it can be used in financial models?

Nik05: Cant come up with something non physical

zakacat: makes sense

Wontonimo: electrical systems, sound systems

Wontonimo: shocks in cars is a simple PID

Wontonimo: 1 dimensional

Nik05: Those are all physical though

Wontonimo: the spring is the (P)osition correction, and the dashpot is the (D)erivitive part. No integration

zakacat: Derivatives are way better than integrals anyways

Nik05: I guess the integral part shows up in electrical systems with capacitors?

Wontonimo: I recently helped a friend with their uni project to make an oven temp controller. The objective was to heat the oven as fast as possible (for smelting) but only overshoot the upper temp limit by a given margin

Wontonimo: guess what .... PID

Wontonimo: 1 dimensional again. And integration helped. All computer code on an arduino

Nik05: nice

Wontonimo: there was an additional issue that the thermostat was very error prone and every reading could be off by 10-20 degrees and then sometimes 200-500 degrees off

zakacat: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] aww, there are no tacos to take

Nik05: wait 200-500 degrees error?

Wontonimo: yeah, buggy

zakacat: that sounds like a cool project

Nik05: So how did you fine tune it>

zakacat: average?

Wontonimo: so easy enough, I suggested that they add a change limit, and a reading, no matter how large, can only modify the estimated real temperature by the min(change, limit)

Wontonimo: it worked really well to get rid of those blips

Wontonimo: I wasn't even in the class. it's been over 25 years since i went to school. I just helped them for a couple hours. gave them a bunch of equations, coded a bit

zakacat: I am not great at electricity :grimacing:

Nik05: I known the physics behind electromagnetism, but I dont know much about electrical systems

Wontonimo: me neither :(

Nik05: Hm electromagnetism goes over my head now as well :P

Nik05: Something something, Maxwell and relativity and then you get EM :P

Nik05: Have a good night, will check those suggestions later ;)

Nik05: I should really try to do that mars lander one.

Nik05: Wontonimo what those bronze/silver/gold mean? I don't see that mentioned in the problem

Nik05: i should sleep, cant even talk properly anymore

zakacat: g'night

Wontonimo: good night

Wontonimo: i'm heading off also

zakacat: throw taco

antiwonto: [auto] zakacat has thrown 1 :taco:s on the floor for the taking but 1 was eaten by a software bug!

zakacat: it was nice while it lasted

Wontonimo: why you do that?

Wontonimo: that was your last taco, and throwing tacos always results in 1 loss

Wontonimo: :taco: zakacat

antiwonto: [auto] Wontonimo has awarded zakacat 1 tacos. zakacat now has 1 taco. Wontonimo now has 16 taco

zakacat: haha, cause I think it is funny

Wontonimo: build up a savings of 3 tacos and you can use the :taco: [user name] command to get 1 taco for being generous

zakacat: ohhhh okay

zakacat: and what happens at 10?

Wontonimo: you can only pick up as many tacos from the ground as you have + 1. Currently you can pick up at most 2 tacos from the floor.

Wontonimo: I can pick up 17

Wontonimo: at 10 and you eat them and gain powers (which don't do anything yet)

Wontonimo: ;)

zakacat: ahaha, hilarious

Wontonimo: oh, there are 10 tacos on the floor now

zakacat: okay

Wontonimo: take them!

zakacat: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] zakacat has taken 2 :taco:s off the floor and now has 3. There are 5 left

Wontonimo: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] Wontonimo has taken 3 :taco:s off the floor and now has 19. There are 2 left

Wontonimo: again!

zakacat: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] zakacat has taken 2 :taco:s off the floor and now has 5. There are 0 left

Wontonimo: there ya go, now you have to power to award someone free tacos once per day ... like maybe me ?

zakacat: :taco: Wontonimo

antiwonto: [auto] zakacat has awarded Wontonimo 5 tacos. Wontonimo now has 24 taco. zakacat now has 6 taco

Wontonimo: I did a shakedown in the #taco channel, if you are wondering where the tacos came from

zakacat: haha

Wontonimo: this all came from an ongoing joke about a year ago

zakacat: o, btw it says that I gave u 5 tacos, but I think that was my balance prior?

zakacat: What was the joke?

Wontonimo: yeah, you can give at most min(your taco count, 10)

zakacat: ahh

zakacat: gotcha

Wontonimo: about a year ago I put on my profile "send tacos"

Wontonimo: and some kind souls started sending me tacos in chat after helping

zakacat: haha

zakacat: ill mail you a taco sometime

Wontonimo: yeah, so i wrote the antiwonto bot to make it a game-ish thing

Wontonimo: i mean, initially antiwonto was just to tell people to stop spamming and bad links

Wontonimo: well, half the code is just copied straight from automaton2000

zakacat: what database do you use for the tacos?

Wontonimo: file system. just write it to a json file. really low tech

Wontonimo: here's the code btw https://github.com/panchishin/cgchat

Wontonimo: javascript / node

zakacat: right, okay, and that file is stored on the site server with everything else? I know nothing about web development

Wontonimo: the site server lol. nope, runs on my laptop

Wontonimo: sorry, that wasn't meant as a laugh about you. i was laughing at myself about how rinkydink it is

zakacat: well, yah I may sound daft, but then antiwonto would only run when u have ur laptop on?

zakacat: I can take it. I got thick skin

zakacat: haha

Wontonimo: no no, sorry if it sounded that way

Wontonimo: i just can't be bothered to run it as a proper server

zakacat: I tried my hand at a discord bot once I think using JS and node, but I was just following instructions, I had no idea what was going on

zakacat: I should practice JS a bit. Would you recommend just redoing a puzzle already completed with a new language?

Wontonimo: yeah, that could work

Wontonimo: what's your current language of choice?

zakacat: only Java

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: cool chlash

Wontonimo: okay, so java and javascript are super different in nature

zakacat: haha that is what they taught Comp Sci in college with and also my Android course was with Java, but I'd like to pick up Kotlin, JS, and Haskell

Wontonimo: java is object oriented

zakacat: and JS is scripting, right?

Wontonimo: and javascript a prototype language

Wontonimo: no, it isn't "scripting"

Wontonimo: so, they both do things like x = y+1;

Wontonimo: and they both have functions

Wontonimo: and you can formulate the solution to problems in very similar ways to java when doing it in javascript

zakacat: ah

Wontonimo: but javascript isn't object oriented.

zakacat: interesting

zakacat: so, is it arguably easier?

Wontonimo: it is why more dynamic than that

Wontonimo: i like it now, but for the first 2 years I used it I cursed every day that it wan't java

Wontonimo: then i realized it has its own strengths, it's own beauty, and now I use it way more than java

zakacat: huh, cool

zakacat: thanks for the info

Wontonimo: i like your idea of trying to redo puzzles you've already accomplished

Wontonimo: that's great. start with something simple

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: help me

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: the iraq government is here

Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/93c95fc0-3dd9-45db-94b0-7fcdb8ca5469

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: :cop:

Wontonimo: ^^ for zakacat

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: g

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: g

Default avatar.png BillGates1955: g

Default avatar.png ytaya: f

Wontonimo: hey, you've been kicked

jawchak19: 2

Wontonimo: do not spam here

Wontonimo: you are welcome to come back after your brief time out if you behave.

Wontonimo: your time out will last about 2 to 5 min depending on server related things

Wontonimo: that i have no control over

Wontonimo: hey zakacat , check your DM

Wontonimo: BillGates1955 has been banned. He was spamming my private account.

MAWAAW: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/travelling-salesman

MAWAAW: They said Allotted response time to output is ≤ 5 seconds.

MAWAAW: with only 2.3 seconds I have "Your calculation timed out!"

MAWAAW: whats going on

zakacat: Why are there so many spammers?

Wontonimo: the timeout is probably 2 sec

zakacat: travelling salesman is an NP problem , right?

Wontonimo: there were a lot more before antiwonto came along. it still can't kick people, which is sad. would really like to have that automated

zakacat: throw tacos at em and then ban em

Wontonimo: yeah NP. Doesn't mean you can't make fast and mostly correctly algo

MAWAAW: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c95fe0ac-cab0-4d03-b470-a3b682b5deb1

zakacat: I find the concept of NP vs. P problems intriguing.

Default avatar.png Kaelidian: Drones is exhausting me

Wontonimo: dont paste solutions here MAWAAW

MAWAAW: actually it's not a solution

MAWAAW: btw some useful feedback is welcome

Default avatar.png Kaelidian: I can't keep TID updated where I need it to be so my genetic algorithm is too stupid to win lol

MAWAAW: it can't be <2seconds

MAWAAW: @wontonimo I have also 2 sec with literally 0 code

MAWAAW: oh ok I got it the problem was the end="" I dont know why

Wontonimo: if you don't send a new line at the end of your output it doesn't get sent in some cases

MAWAAW: 250555

MAWAAW: nice 96th for the first try

MAWAAW: oof 96 / 124 :D nvm

Wontonimo: hey ... what happened to my submit?

Wontonimo: ;( I guess the submit when it was not approved yet got wiped out

MAWAAW: which submit

Wontonimo: when the game wasn't approved

MAWAAW: even not approved if u run tests on IDE it have to be saved

Westicles: BR2048 wood5 boss is very tricky

Wontonimo: found it. submitting soon

Wontonimo: sad ... got 106th w/ a total length of 692,620

Wontonimo: oh, i only used 1 sec

Wontonimo: okay, still bad.

Wontonimo: meh, another day

Default avatar.png LIES.: anyone solution for the game mad pod racing level 1 ?


Wontonimo: yes

Wontonimo: you are in wood 1 ?

Default avatar.png LIES.: i'm beginning

Wontonimo: did you find the bug in the code yet where it is targeting Y,Y instead of X,Y

Default avatar.png LIES.: but i have a problem, the move so fast, so how fix that

Wontonimo: paste the print line here

Wontonimo: let's take a look at what you have now

Default avatar.png LIES.: look at

Default avatar.png LIES.: // Edit this line to output the target position

           // and thrust (0 <= thrust <= 100)
           // i.e.: "x y thrust"
           System.out.println(nextCheckpointY + "100 " + nextCheckpointX + " 15");

Wontonimo: you need to print out x y speed

Wontonimo: what you are printing out is x 100 y 15

Wontonimo: so it thinks you are targeting the location (x,100) with a speed of y

Wontonimo: oh, even worse,

Wontonimo: you are printing y 100 x 15

Wontonimo: change it to this

Wontonimo: System.out.println(nextCheckpointX + nextCheckpointX + " 80");

Wontonimo: sorry ...

Wontonimo: this

System.out.println(nextCheckpointX + nextCheckpointY + " 80");


Wontonimo: X Y 80

Wontonimo: tell us how that does

Default avatar.png LIES.: same problem :v

Default avatar.png LIES.: x is my position and y is the power

Wontonimo: oh ... sorry, i forgot the space

Wontonimo: System.out.println(nextCheckpointX + " " + nextCheckpointY + " 80");


Wontonimo: try that

Wontonimo: LIES. ? how did that do?

Default avatar.png LIES.: thanks bro y got it

Wontonimo: okay, that should carry you for a rank and put you in wood 1

Default avatar.png LIES.: I guess I owe you one

Default avatar.png LIES.: i wood 2 :v

Wontonimo: 0.5 bitcoins will be plenty

Default avatar.png LIES.: i could for the other life ;)

Wontonimo: what other variables do you have? Do you have distance to checkpoint and angle to checkpoint?

Default avatar.png LIES.: yep, i have to try to resolve that

Wontonimo: ?

Wontonimo: what?

Wontonimo: in the code you have, what variables do you have?

Default avatar.png LIES.: I wanted to tell, i try resolve