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Rebollo: Guys

Rebollo: How can I create a copy of this root guy

Rebollo: GolfGame *root = new GolfGame(matrixOfArea, height, width);

Rebollo: I want to create a copy, not a reference of root

Andriann: Hi guys, I wanna solve the cash back problem if you know the link? please

jacek: happy Caturday

DialFrost: jacek only says 2 things

DialFrost: happy caturday

DialFrost: or

DialFrost: oO

DialFrost: :P

Uljahn: oh my :upside_down:

BlaiseEbuth: Oo

jacek: nyoro~n

IrisLh: Time to get off:grinning:

Default avatar.png DAREdevil001: shit

Default avatar.png DAREdevil001: too diffcult

Default avatar.png Rem7y: how play this game?

Default avatar.png Rem7y: I dont undestand

DialFrost: i have a protest to make about bots

DialFrost: lol

DialFrost: they can solve hard puzzles that normal people cant solve in time

DialFrost: ...

Default avatar.png DAREdevil001: I'm nearly crazy,my English is poor

Default avatar.png Khoaa: how to play

Uljahn: https://i.imgur.com/2EYFM3Z.jpeg

Default avatar.png FORMS1: With the ASCII art puzzle - the size of the string of text "T" is unknown. I"m assuming I'm going to need to break the string apart into its individual characters. Does that mean this puzzle requires dynamic arrays?

5DN1L: Does the constraint "0 < N < 200" help you decide?

Default avatar.png FORMS1: Ah constraints

Default avatar.png FORMS1: that notion is gonna sink in pretty quick

Default avatar.png FORMS1: thanks!

5DN1L: :)

Nachosauce: Man I need to get better at writing fast code. The actual logic of this challenge is easy, but my code isn't fast enough

Default avatar.png Khoaa: Same

Default avatar.png miyucode: hi

Default avatar.png miyucode: hru here ?

Default avatar.png Khoaa: hi

ScienceGuy66: this is cool

jacek: code not fast enough? it timeouts? :v

Ose: I am back

Ose: wow I'm sure tired

Ose: You guys want to enter the logo lift-off competition

Ose: that's all i want to say

jacek: hm? thats for 4-11 years old

BlaiseEbuth: Oh. You're not 4yo yet jacek? :o

Default avatar.png ArslaneB: Is there any Apache Spark Quiz / Exercices on codingame ?

BlaiseEbuth: CG is about programming and algorithmic so nope.

MSmits: We don't have spark quizzes !?

MSmits: :cry:

BlaiseEbuth: [CG]Impersonate! MSmits is being sarcastic, ban him and delete his account, he'll make new users flee from the chat! :angry:

Master_Zain: lies

jacek: Automaton2000 there's spark in you

Default avatar.png Automaton2000: but will be hard to beat

jacek: thats what she said, Automaton2000

Default avatar.png Automaton2000: still a lot of time on that puzzle

MSmits: well BlaiseEbuth you are being ageist toward jacek. It's not his fault he is young

MSmits: I for one, find it amazing a 3 yr old can code a neural network

jacek: boldly of you to assume <4 is 3

BlaiseEbuth: That's not me! That's Ose who shared this shocking non-inclusive contest!

MSmits: :smile_cat:

jacek: stil metamctsing oware?

MSmits: yeah, your bot is ridiculous. It makes 0 mistakes in most games, in the first 12 seeds

MSmits: I do the lookup after 12 seeds and it usually comes down to 0, meaning a draw when my bot plays yours perfectly

jacek: and wins against robo, but loses to royale or oldjohn

jacek: and they lose to robo

BlaiseEbuth: Well I suppose a majority of foetus create a neural network at some point of their development MSmits, though not all so performant...

MSmits: yeah but the mistakes it makes are probably later in the game. Let me find one of those and analyze it for you

MSmits: or share 1 with me. I'll tell you where it goes wrong

MSmits: true BlaiseEbuth

jacek: https://www.codingame.com/replay/604085338

MSmits: I can analyze this one easily https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/604085338. Action is early on so it quickly hits my book

jacek: oO

MSmits: that one too

MSmits: i'll do yours

jacek: its the same

jacek: at frame 50 it says -0.4, at frame -0.7, at 120 and laters around -0.6, until the proven loss at 178

MSmits: ohh ok

MSmits: Seems Royale makes the first mistake at frame 13. My meta mcts did not explore that move much because it seems bad. I am exploring it now. It's near the endgame book so I really think it's a mistake. I'll keep looking once I solve it to find your mistakes

jacek: anyway when i spam submit i can pull robo down

MSmits: your bot makes a losing move at frame 15

MSmits: it's solved after that, so when you capture to 5-8

MSmits: that's 35 seeds left on the board so it's a lookup for me

MSmits: move 8 (2nd from right) would have won

MSmits: I think the guys that claimed to have solved oware the first time found that captures are not the best move 15% of the time

MSmits: it's not strange that bots are biased toward capturing though, especially if the hurt only happens much later

jacek: 5-8?

MSmits: yeah when you capture, the score

jacek: i have 6

jacek: or you mean your lookup

MSmits: when you capture it goes from 5-6 to 5-8

MSmits: that's the losing move

jacek: 5-6:

jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/22f2a49a-a5b1-4879-a14c-3cebcb9f805c

jacek: hm

MSmits: but you pick 11 don't you?

MSmits: it's not the worst move btw, just not the best

jacek: that was before

jacek: at frame 15

jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9495ec46-6d90-4227-b643-3e5b210afcb8

MSmits: ohh so close

MSmits: 8 was the best move :)

MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/e33iOoU

MSmits: this is flipped with you as the first player

MSmits: [-2.-2] is optimistic and pessimistic value

MSmits: equal so solved as -2

MSmits: and you're 1 point ahead

MSmits: so you lose

MSmits: the other one is [0,-0]

MSmits: well not -0, just 0

MSmits: 4th move is unsolved but has bad stats

MSmits: and so close to book that's very reliable

MSmits: up to Royale's mistake this is a line of play that over 700k games played, probably very common in your training also. I think his mistake confused your bot, gave you a gamestate less known to it

geppoz: question for python users: it is safe to remove from a set while iterating in it?

geppoz: I mean, if I do:

geppoz: for i in myset:

geppoz: if (...): myset.discard(i)

geppoz: I can still be sure all set are iterated once?

jacek: no

jacek: RuntimeError: Set changed size during iteration

geppoz: :(

geppoz: that is weird

ScienceGuy66: :(

ScienceGuy66: :)

geppoz: that means that if I have a very large set, there is a big overhead in duplication

Gorkath: Hi everyone

Default avatar.png Pallussa: good morning !

jacek: morning :thinking:

Default avatar.png Pallussa: depends where you are I guess XD

dpdog: sus

Wontonimo: hey geppoz, if it is a list then you can use something like

Wontonimo: i = 0 while i < len(mylist):

Wontonimo: if will_remove_item:

       mylist.remove(i)
   else: 
       i += 1

BlaiseEbuth: geppoz got an answer from the future :o

Wontonimo: ?

Wontonimo: according to my screen, he asked at 10:56am and I replied at 1:08pm

Wontonimo: i guess the timezones got messed up in the display

Wontonimo: on your screen

BlaiseEbuth: No matter the timezone, the answer came 2 hours after the question.

Wontonimo: or 20 sec after I logged in

BlaiseEbuth: Still

Wontonimo: :clock-without-hands:

Default avatar.png CiproN: buna

Default avatar.png CiproN: șțăîâ

Default avatar.png CiproN: :nerd:

jacek: shall this game be added to CG? https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/s8k6nj/inspired_on_chess_4294967296_which_is_inspired_by/

Astrobytes: only if you make it 3D and open world

Zorg1: and don't forget to add the FoW

Astrobytes: :)

Wontonimo: and you can move by fractional squares

Wontonimo: like warhammer

Wontonimo: linear distance with rotation

Astrobytes: screw that, add physics, continuous movements

Wontonimo: and a NN for each unit for it to execute it's own battle tactics

Astrobytes: give the pieces limbs

Wontonimo: and tissue layers

Wontonimo: with fluids to squirt out

Astrobytes: let the king go off to the er, pawn shop to get reinforcements

Wontonimo: lol

Wontonimo: pawn shop

Astrobytes: :grin:

jacek: :door:

Astrobytes: heh heh heh

BlaiseEbuth: Let the king do economic layoff on pawns and sell board-cells to the bank.

Astrobytes: getting into monopoly territory here

BlaiseEbuth: Hmm... What about TV debate between kings?

Astrobytes: sounds doable

jacek: i know! lets make breakthrough960 to get rid of the openings

Astrobytes: hahaha

MSmits: breakthrough1 :grin:

jacek: queenthrough

MSmits: amazons?

MSmits: this exists: https://ludii.games/details.php?keyword=Knightthrough

MSmits: First game I tried: https://imgur.com/a/a2FhVTN =)

Default avatar.png CaI3B: hii im new to this,

Dren: hello new to this

Josdel: hello i'm hot

Wontonimo: open a window and let some cool air in :rolling_eyes:

Josdel: thanks for u recommendation

Wontonimo: feeling better now?

Wontonimo: it may be covid

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: How much CP would you get if you get 1st place in a clash of code with 8 people in?

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: Also, how much total CP would I approximately need to get into the top 10k globally?

Wontonimo: 2 questions there: first quesiton I'm not going to answer but instead inform you that you are better off getting CP from doing multis like coders strikes back than from Clash.

Wontonimo: Second, you can look up the global leaderboard to find what CP you need for what level

Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/general/global

Josdel: Wontomino

Josdel: nice nickname

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: ah thank you, where can i find these multis?

Josdel: original

Josdel: :hmmm:

Dorak: Please don't ban Josdel, he's my only friend on this.

Wontonimo: PringleOrange https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: Thanks man

Wontonimo: try "line racing" (aka Tron light cycles)

Wontonimo: or "mad pod racing" (aka Coders Strikes Back)

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: ah, are those the easy ones? i like the easy ones

Wontonimo: me too Pringle, me too

Wontonimo: yeah, those two are pretty easy.

Wontonimo: try mad pod racing first

Wontonimo: it gives you a tutorial

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: ah tysm!

Josdel: wontonimo

Josdel: are you pro?

Wontonimo: your first job will be to notice that the code they give you has an error

Josdel: :nerd:

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: yeah

Wontonimo: when the code should use X,Y coords, it in error uses Y,Y.

Wontonimo: easy fix, change the code to be X,Y

Wontonimo: pro what Josdel ?

Josdel: coding

Wontonimo: pro-grammer ? sure am

Josdel: :0

Dorak: 1vs1 rn. :sunglasses:

Dorak: okno.

Josdel: want to play a clash with some friends?

Wontonimo: no

Default avatar.png tyvenom: give you guys props alot of you guys are really good.

Wontonimo: how long have you been coding tyvenom ?

Default avatar.png tyvenom: I started learning since may of last year. just started learning python.

Wontonimo: you may really like this resource for python https://www.hackinscience.org/exercises/

Wontonimo: and this http://bedford-computing.co.uk/learning/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Python-Cookbook-3rd-Edition.pdf

Josdel: oooo

Default avatar.png tyvenom: Thanks so much ill check them out! ive been taking udemy courses etc..

Josdel: :open_mouth:

Josdel: thanks for the content

Wontonimo: noooooo don't give udemy your money for their crap course

Default avatar.png tyvenom: haha i also got stackskills courses.

Default avatar.png tyvenom: any courses you recommend?

Wontonimo: yeah, i would recommend what my aikido teacher said about learning martial arts. practice every day. practice the same things till it is perfect

Default avatar.png tyvenom: My thing is the only coding i can really do is on my phone with work. So im limited being next to a computer.

Wontonimo: in the morning, wake up and write a small program from memory and understanding, not using google or any kind of autocomplete. Try to write the whole program and make it run with 1 compile

Wontonimo: something like : calculate the first 100 prime numbers

Default avatar.png tyvenom: interesting. ill def try to do that. I did debate on taking like a coding bootcamp. But i dont know how great they are.

Wontonimo: you can write it out on paper. seriously. then type it in when you get home.

Default avatar.png tyvenom: hm thats a good idea. I appreciate the ideas!

Blokops: it migh be a bit adavnac ebut code golf is amazing for learning the langauge in and outs

Default avatar.png tyvenom: code golf is a website?

Wontonimo: compare programming to reading. if you had trouble spelling every work and had to look up grammar rules for every 4 to 5 words in a row, you'd suck at writing and reading. You have to first MASTER the absolute basics

Blokops: is a contest in this page

Default avatar.png tyvenom: thanks im really new to this page like just joined lol

Blokops: example of code golf

Blokops: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/codegolf/power-of-thor

Default avatar.png tyvenom: I heard mixed signals on that someone said just key bind set up keybinds and skip all the basics. I been doing the basics for a bit.

Blokops: shameless request Can someone review my clash of code submission

Blokops: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/80227418778cac702dd17adeac47ade8fc75


Wontonimo: sure, let's swap. You take a look at my submission https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7799355410921bf449a7b4ecbbde9186ff2c

Blokops: fair deal

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: hi, what do i do for line racing on bot programming multi?

Blokops: for line racing you mean a race condition ?

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: yeah

Wontonimo: nope https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/line-racing

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: oh

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: yeah that

Wontonimo: it is a bot battle, aka Multi

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: yeah

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: what would i do for it?

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: like, how would i beat the boss

Wontonimo: turn right

Wontonimo: unless that won't win, then try left

Wontonimo: but seriously though, you'll have to keep track of the board in your code and make sure your bot doesn't run into a wall or line

Default avatar.png PringleOrange: ah so is x1 and y1 the square ahead of me?

Wontonimo: i don't remember. i'm not looking at that code atm

Wontonimo: all the info in the scrollable panel to the left

Blokops: what was the name of the bot in the chat

Wontonimo: Automaton2000 do you have another name?

Default avatar.png Automaton2000: but you can't do it

Blokops: Automaton2000 where did the last slice of pitza go

Default avatar.png Automaton2000: now how do i change it to move to a cell that you have already won

Wontonimo: If you'd like to know how automaton works, take a look this puzzle https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7799355410921bf449a7b4ecbbde9186ff2c

Blokops: doing it right now

Blokops: trying to figure out the seed thing

Wontonimo: oh, wow! Go Blokops Go !

Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/edbc4931-eab7-445c-bd8f-648f1f51797a

Wontonimo: ^^ pseudo code for the random seed

Blokops: for some reason test 3 should be "is good" but is giving me "bad"

Blokops: oh the random seed needs to run even if there 1 option got it

Wontonimo: nice feedback

Wontonimo: thanks Blokops

Blokops: :ok_hand:

Wontonimo: the section about reproducability already mentions the 1 option

Wontonimo: ...for 'randomly' picking from options for the next state even if there only exists 1 options.

Wontonimo: cool. so now you can make your own Automaton2000 Blokops ! ;)

Default avatar.png Automaton2000: that will help me understand how to do a project for uni

Blokops: funny he says that right now im on that topic in uni

Wontonimo: cool, what are you takiing in uni Blokops?

Blokops: Language processing

Wontonimo: like compilers or like machine learning?

Blokops: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Blokops: my bet is machine lerning but is too soon to say

Blokops: but thanks to you puzzle i might just skiped at least a week of class

Wontonimo: are you processing human language, like stories and customer complaints, or is the course about how to write somethihng to compile new programming languages?

Wontonimo: sounds like NLP (natural language processing)

Blokops: is SLP

Blokops: i dont know what S stands for

Wontonimo: maybe this : Speech-language pathologists (SLP) study and treat speech, language, and communication disorders

Blokops: i think it mgiht be both

Wontonimo: maybe "Spoken Language Processing"

Blokops: it says "topics in language processing"

Wontonimo: cool

Blokops: oh spoken would be so fun

Wontonimo: you may be SUPER interested in this http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/