jacek: happy Caturday
YGuns: is there HTML
YanniD: kivy has a long way to catch up to be as strong as i wished it to be. -Strong enough to build native applications.
please review the question I have made
5DN1L: MASTER123 please use #clash channel for clash invites, thanks.
MSmits: these booster side-effects are no joke
MSmits: felt like :poop: the last time on my 2nd dose (for 24 hrs) but this time it is worse
MSmits: I hope it works fast enough. I have to teach on monday. a building with 1200 students and omicron. Not a good combination
therealbeef: don't think it works that fast... ;-)
MSmits: well it has done *something* or I wouldnt feel this crappy
MSmits: our health department says it takes 7 days
MSmits: but i think it could maybe be shorter and the 7 is on the safe side
MSmits: I think it's shitty that they have a full lockdown, all except schools are closed, yet they don't boost the teachers first.
MSmits: boost the people who have the most chance of getting infected
therealbeef: it's tricky, boostering based on risk of dying might prevent more deaths
therealbeef: if only netherlands wasn't so slow with boostering...
MSmits: yeah the slowness is the main problem, but they could have done 60+ first, then all teachers.
MSmits: instead it is fully by ag
MSmits: health care professionals do get precedence. I would say in this case, teachers should be offered the same consideration.
struct: still 2 days to recover MSmits
struct: you will be fine
struct: trust me, I'm a doctor
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: maybe the sixth booster will be better
MSmits: struct the recovery is not the problem. I know i'll be ok, I'm just worried the booster wont work in time
MSmits: i got it yesterday at 1 pm
therealbeef: maybe the booster won't work anyway ;-)
MSmits: they have done some research to show both natural immunity and vaccine immunity work against omicron. Just doesn't prevent infection. Only symptoms
MSmits: do you get less sick
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: The best bet is to get a daily shot
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Until the twice daily pill comes out
MSmits: this might be the last covid variant we have to worry about. Mostly because of the rate of infection. After that most people will be protected. But who knows
jacek: ez, just take vitamin D, Mg and NAC regularly
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: just turn off your tv and think about something else
MSmits: i don't watch tv
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: whatever is making you obsess about this, turn it off
MSmits: it's not obsession really, why would you call it that?
struct: i dont feel like he is obsessed
struct: he is just worried about monday
struct: which seems normal to me
MSmits: I know i'll probably be fine if i get infected, I just dont like to get diseases of any kind
MSmits: not if i dont need to
jacek: hes more obsessed with metamcts and endgames
MSmits: it's insane how fast omicron spreads. I think infections tripled in a few days
MSmits: correct jacek :)
struct: they are predicting 1% of population per day soon
jacek: omicron propagates like mcts
struct: here in portugal
MSmits: yeah it's like that in most countries now struct
MSmits: omicron has less chance of hospitalization, but because of the extreme rate of infection you could still get health care overrun
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: :rolling eyes:
MSmits: simple facts Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: it is a sore throat and runny nose
fsy: China looks safe now
MSmits: for most people yes, but the problem is that hospitals can only take an extremely tiny portion of the population
MSmits: so even if only 0,01% has to be hospitalized, it could be too much
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: like every winter
MSmits: depends on your country, in my country hospitals dont get overrun in the winter
MSmits: pre-covid that is
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: okay, well best of luck. let's hope the media gives us something new to worry about soon
MSmits: who care about media. that is the problem. You have to listen to science, not media
fsy: My hospital is very deserted
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: pfizer is not science
MSmits: If you say so
struct: facebook is science
MSmits: facebook sure does science, but not the useful kind
MSmits: how can we most easily make money and ruin society?
fsy: what country are you in
MSmits: it says on my profile
struct: fsy you can over the profile pic
MSmits: btw, a family member of mine, younger than i am, is still reovering from covid after 2 months. It happens. Granted, this was Delta, but still. People who think they know it all, should be careful about their assumptions
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: it is just sad to see intelligent people falling for this
MSmits: falling for what?
MSmits: so my family member is lying to me?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: worry about covid for 3 years?
struct: falling for your bait?
MSmits: heh right struct
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: something you would never notice if you turned off the news
MSmits: until you or people in your family got an unlucky case of covid
MSmits: just because it doesnt happen to you, doesnt mean it doesnt happen
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: what if I said it was very similar to flu? how much conditioning do you have to strongly respond to that?
MSmits: your opinion on the comparison with flu doesn't matter. I trust scientists over some random stranger on the internet
MSmits: and they have the data to show it has been much much worse than the flu
MSmits: the flu is actually not a very nice disease either. Most people that claim they have the flu actually just caught a cold
MSmits: flu is severely underestimated
ninjadip: people i know are dying of covid, while people do die of the flu, i've never met one or heard of someone that knew someone
MSmits: I've gotten a very bad flu once or twice in my life, something i would prefer to avoid
MSmits: covid is like 10x more infectious though, so even if it was as bad as the flu and no more, it would be very bad. but it's not, delta is much worse than the flu. Omicron might be similar actually
MSmits: it's hard to compare though, since many people have natural immunity or vaccine immunity and there are many versions of flu also
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: word for word, lol
MSmits: you may laugh, but you are the one believing it's 100+ countries working together to create a giant conspiracy to make people believe there is a bad disease that doesn't exist. Sound far more laughable to me.
MSmits: millions of doctors and scientists, all in on it
ninjadip: like simulation theory? or just conspiracy theory?
MSmits: it's a conspiracy theory
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Nah, just a little bit of greed mixed up with a some really good marketing and tons and tons of social media herd mentality
ninjadip: oh man cause simulation theory is interesting
MSmits: obviously you don't have any clue about how science works Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: if you say so
MSmits: scientists care more about truth than anyone in the world. I know because I am one. You can distrust politics and media and rightly so, but not scientists. Or at least not scientific consensus
MSmits: doesn't mean they cant be wrong. They can be wrong when there is too little information and they are having to make a best guess to inform policy
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: you want to compare credentials?
ninjadip: that's not bring people back from the dead
MSmits: whats the point of that. I am not arguing from authority
MSmits: I am just saying trust the science
ninjadip: whatever you want to call it, they are dead. that's the truth.
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: all right, horse is well dead. back to mcts
jacek: pony dead?
5DN1L: search here
darkhorse64: MSmits: 100% in agreement with you
ninjadip: everyone else is too, just walking on eggshells around you know who
MSmits: thanks darkhorse64 :)
MSmits: I have been rewatching harry potter
struct: isnt there a new movie?
MSmits: mmh not sure, unless you mean those fantastic beasts spinoffs
struct: ah no
struct: its just a reunion of the cast it seems
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: I watch it for Snape mostly :P
darkhorse64: The actor Alan Rickman is dead, unfortunately, no ?
MSmits: yeah he is
MSmits: I just think he is awesome in HP
struct: yeah he plays the role very well
struct: from what I can remember
darkhorse64: Even in the book, his death is one of the most striking moments
MSmits: yeah i also read the books, but only 1 time each, saw the movies multiple times
MSmits: kinda like lotr, only read those once, maybe twice, but saw the movies like 5 times or something
MSmits: good fantasy productions used to be rare, but the last 20 yrs or so there have been some really good ones
darkhorse64: 3 times for me (including the hobbit) and read the books twice
MSmits: ah yeah, the hobbit is a quick read
MSmits: still amazes me they got 3 moves out of that
darkhorse64: Scenario writers are quite talented
MSmits: yeah i guess so, especially since they must have used the best ones
MSmits: they also madea show of wheel of time recently
MSmits: i read all those books, but those books are huge. They try to do 1 book in 8 episodes, but they still need to skip and change a ton or it would never fit
darkhorse64: A true discovery for me. Looks interesting
therealbeef: just wish the book-fans would stop whining about it in the series/movies reviews :-P
therealbeef: (about changes, new scenes, etc)
ninjadip: same with porn, the movies never live up to the stories in the magazines
therealbeef: I should quote Jacky Treehorn now
jacek: again with the books talking
MSmits: yeah i had to stop myself from being annoyed at the changes, but they had good reasons for it i guess.
MSmits: it's a good show if you can ignore them
struct: you just need to watch the show first and then read the book
struct: then you wont be disapointed
jacek: or create the book yourself
Ose: I rested my nickname all night and it doesn't do anything
5DN1L: Isn't your nickname Ose?
Schwase: could someone direct me to a forum post or relevant information on how to solve puzzles in an external editor?
Ose: My nicknane is ose
5DN1L: Schwase the topic could be "CG Local"
Ose: What that mean
5DN1L: I see your nickname is Ose
5DN1L: Are you seeing something else?
Manchi_o6o7: Someone who could help me I out. I am trying to write a custom iterator for DFS .
aightbro: any catgirls uwu?
BlaiseEbuth: Yup https://popcat.click/
Ose: I am seeing something else
5DN1L: Try refreshing your browser or clearing your browser cache?
Ose: Wow! It worked
jacek: and hacking
struct: jacek do you do any move pruning on bt?
jacek: mcts-ept i quite prunny by design, isnt it
struct: yeah but on move gen
struct: you dont prune at all?
jacek: no. i consider all moves in 1-ply
jacek: well for bt thanks to bitboard i can have 3-ply win/lose if bunch of ifs
struct: ifs :nauseated_face:
jacek: still working on bt?
struct: yes i started today
struct: im redoing it
struct: maybe ill try psqt
Big_Code: Hey folks, been googling around for a while and can't find an answer to my issue. Could anyone tell me why pandas 'duplicated()' works fine on Test 3, but totally different on Test 4? https://pastebin.com/YedM2F4a
5DN1L: I suspect duplicated() doesn't care whether your duplicates are one immediately after the other or not
5DN1L: what does bb mean?
n0b1e: slang for baby
Big_Code: I see how it could be doing that, but what really confuses me is what duplicates does it see? in Test 3 it seems to recognize 150 as a duplicate, but in Test 4 I'm not sure what it thinks is a duplicate.
5DN1L: the y-coordinates are duplicated
5DN1L: e.g. #0 and #17
5DN1L: Slanda are you rank one AND above the boss?
5DN1L: jacek are you bb?
jacek: Automaton2000 is bb
Automaton2000: i'm used to the website
5DN1L: Big_Code, I don't think so
jacek: Slanda what game? and yes, if youre above boss after submit is done you should advance league
5DN1L: I think all can be paired up
jacek: the submit isnt finished
jacek: it needs to play 90 games or so
5DN1L: yes, Slanda look at the leaderboard
5DN1L: your games are still being played
5DN1L: scoring not yet finished
5DN1L: no problem
jacek: 445%? oO
5DN1L: Wontonimo's sticky keyboard
Big_Code: 5DN1L I'm not sure I get what you mean, I see that #0 and #17 are duplicated. But all the data in between seems, (to me) randomly chosen. Heres a paste with an example, the first 10 sets of data, showing which are excluded. https://pastebin.com/pVmRb2Rs I probably just can't see it, but I can't tell why its separating the data this way
5DN1L: Based on your last pastebin link, I see these pairs: 0 & 17, 2 & 13, 7 & 12, 8 & 11, 10 & 14, 15 & 16
5DN1L: Each pair has the same y-coordinate
5DN1L: that's right :)
5DN1L: Heehee sure
struct: only these libraries are available on cg
struct: NumPy 1.20.2, pandas 1.2.4, SciPy 1.6.3
ninjadip: i'm in an ocean of code
jacek: dont drown
5DN1L: I hope you aren't trying to invite spam
5DN1L: English only please
Dren: but often only themselves
ASM_MOV_INT: this chat is fairly inactive... i'm not even here...
ASM_MOV_INT: just remember the computer goes through an ocean of code the same way it goes through a few lines of code... one char at a time
5DN1L: This chat can be active at times. Right now it's bedtime in Europe
ASM_MOV_INT: i just started work a few minutes ago
5DN1L: ASM_MOV_INT Still got work to do on a Saturday?
ASM_MOV_INT: it's my friday
5DN1L: what time is it?
ASM_MOV_INT: i work swing shift it's just after 2pm
ASM_MOV_INT: ...waiting for a clash that I actually want to solve...! rofl
5DN1L: Like how? Look at the question and leave if you don't want to solve it?
ASM_MOV_INT: found one... oh, and yeah lol
5DN1L: interesting approach
ASM_MOV_INT: i usually submit, cuz I don't like waiting for everyone's to finish, only to find that someone just left
5DN1L: i see
ASM_MOV_INT: i am also a self taught programmer
ASM_MOV_INT: are you in europe right now? cool
5DN1L: yes, going to bed soon
ASM_MOV_INT: i have to answer help desk calls for the next 7 1/2 hours
ASM_MOV_INT: so far.... quiet, hope your night is quiet as well
5DN1L: most nights are, luckily :)
Wontonimo: anyone working on Tron (line racing) or Mad Pod Racing ?
Wontonimo: I've got hints ...
Wontonimo: :wave: Keve1991. Haven't seen you around before. Nice level
struct: hi Wontonimo
Wontonimo: hey struct !
justchris: Wontonimo, I'm thinking about doing Tron soon, just started with code royale
justchris: are you allowed to take hints ? i took some hints for Mad pod racing here a few days back
Wontonimo: cool! I didn't get very far with code royal
Wontonimo: yeah, hints are fine
Wontonimo: sharing full code is not
Wontonimo: (other than for total noobs struggling with "The Descent")
justchris: great, when you asked me last time and i saw you were a moderator i thought i was gonna be in trouble xD
Wontonimo: sharing ideas is great. Especially if they are insightful (vs spoilers). For example, a lot of people are interested in pushing their bitboard and mcts algos to the limits and back early this year you would have seen a storm of different ideas freely shared
Alex4200: ok i don't understand man
Wontonimo: What have you been working on Alex4200 ? Any puzzles or bot battles?
Alex4200: working bot battle
Wontonimo: which one?
Alex4200: i dont know.
justchris: you dont know how the system works?
justchris: with leagues etc?
Wontonimo: just start on one, like https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/connect-4
Wontonimo: use the default code to start, submit it, and see what it does
Wontonimo: a random bot will actually beat a lot of other people. So for connect 4, you can start by outputting a random number from 0-8
Alex4200: ok i have join on ashketchum
Astrobytes: I see I have not been missing much
Wontonimo: not at all
Astrobytes: Sad times dude, sad times.
Wontonimo: we have eachother
Wontonimo: jacek was sharing his new NN post. really good stuff. i'm still surprised i haven't jumped on the wagon considering it is my day job. maybe thats why
Astrobytes: that on tech.io?
Astrobytes: and haha, yeah, most likely :D
Wontonimo: yeah but still wip
Astrobytes: Also, ML-based solutions are not applicable to all multis
Wontonimo: bit your tongue !
Wontonimo: (but not hard, that would hurt)
**Astrobytes throws a taco
Astrobytes: anyway, gotta sleep, should be around more at some point next week.
Wontonimo: cool cool, me too Astrobytes
Wontonimo: Hoshiny, refresh your web page
Wontonimo: no probs. how's the multi going Hoshiny ?
Wontonimo: have you done much coding before coming here?
Wontonimo: what programming language are you using?
Wontonimo: both are good and I use both at work
justchris: wow time flies so fast
Wontonimo: i dont know
Wontonimo: hey justchris, you haven't fixed your gold bot in mad pod racing
justchris: fixed how?
Wontonimo: they are not working properly
Wontonimo: die on frame 1
justchris: yeah i didnt make code for 2 pods, just 1
zakacat: Does anyone else write out their algorithms by hand sometimes?
Wontonimo: how else would you do it?
zakacat: in the IDE?
zakacat: commented out maybe
zakacat: I am not sure. I hadn't assumed it was common to do so
ASM_MOV_INT: i write pseudo code in IDE, then comment and create as I go... ;)
Wontonimo: do you mean your write it down on paper, with a writing implement of some nature like they did when they lived in caves?
zakacat: haha, yah
zakacat: exactly, chisel and stone over here
zakacat: JK, I like my pencil and paper
ASM_MOV_INT: my host enjoys the tactile sensation of writing...!
zakacat: I also find it comforting. I like sketching when I can. Plus, I am still not a very strong typist
zakacat: Host? Liiiikkee accomodation?
ASM_MOV_INT: ....rofl, that was a stargate sg-1 reference
Wontonimo: host, like fleshy meat bag that he inhabits
zakacat: Haha, well I was just trying not to be rude
ASM_MOV_INT: Anise of the tok'ra said that in one of the episodes when questioned about using a pen and computerized tablet
zakacat: And her race is parasitic?
ASM_MOV_INT: yes, benevolently so also.
ASM_MOV_INT: don't mind me, i'm on too much coffee
Wontonimo: benevolently parasitic ... oxymoron
zakacat: Yah, like, can they host a corpse?
ASM_MOV_INT: lol... in the series? no
zakacat: Or are they symbiotic?
zakacat: with the host
ASM_MOV_INT: it's a great show
ASM_MOV_INT: years ago, i checked out the first season from the local library.... ended up becoming a huge fan, bought the entire series, and the offshoots too, stargate atlantis, and stargate universe... and the movies
Wontonimo: lies, they toss the used meat mech once it is of no use
zakacat: Sounds similar to Star Trek. I will have to check it out some time
zakacat: hahaha, meat mech. Now there is an oxymoron
ASM_MOV_INT: i'm a huge trekkie too yes
Wontonimo: "oh, we are so civilized. the meat mechs are totally willing, breed that way and those who arnt are ... made to do other things ..."
Wontonimo: symbiotic nope. just good at PR
Wontonimo: tbh, I'd like to be such an immortal parasite in a world of 8 billion meat mechs. Better than being a vampire
zakacat: More freedom, less power
ASM_MOV_INT: today kid's, our phrase of the day is: meat mech