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mcroner_: sup

DialFrost: hello world

Hwan_Jo: hi everyone

Default avatar.png ammari: hi there

RustSwordsman: hello

n0b1e: hey

Bertinator: dried grass

ammari: yo guys i liked this website

ammari: i'm using it to improve my python skills

DialFrost: <33

jacek: aww

MSmits: jacek, I've been working on my meta mcts with 36 seed book and I am testing some games to see how good your bot is

MSmits: this game: https://www.codingame.com/replay/600200948

MSmits: your bot plays perfectly till frame 47, then my bot makes a mistake in the endgame book

MSmits: meaning the book is not in my live bot so it cant use it, but i can check it locally

MSmits: when i say perfectly it means every move your bot plays is aimed at maximum net seed gain

MSmits: i'll check the rest of the game, but your bot is ahead then so it doesnt have to play perfectly from then on

MSmits: yeah that's funny, it makes a mistake itself only 2 frames later, but it doesn't matter. I guess thats what happens when you train for winning instead of seeds gained

MSmits: oware bots have gotten ridiculously good

MSmits: so I can't even counterbook you with the meta unless I include parts of my 36 seed endgame book in my bot.

MSmits: I'm going to try to train a nn with that book so i don't have to... that's the plan anyways

Daporan: MSmits, how do you know the early moves are perfect?

MSmits: I run a meta mcts which, instead of playing games till the end, it plays games till <=36 seeds and backpropagates the result. That makes them very accurate and fast

MSmits: it's a very simple game with on average only a branching of 5 and many bad moves, so it's easy to converge all the way on the endgame book

MSmits: i have a 60 GB endgame book with all possible states with <=36 seeds

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Hi, everyone how are you?

MSmits: hi ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN

eulerscheZahl: you didn't answer the "how are you" part

Default avatar.png COOLERR: .....

MSmits: it can be extracted from my sermon

eulerscheZahl: ̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤

MSmits: ohnoes

eulerscheZahl: my standard reaction to someone else writing a bunch of dots, less funny when you already see what's about to happen before it even really started :(

MSmits: well you did it often enough now :)

MSmits: so i recognize

eulerscheZahl: next time i'll trick you into thinking i did

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: You are from where @MSmits

MSmits: says on my profile. The Netherlands

eulerscheZahl: from a city named "Private"

MSmits: yes

eulerscheZahl: that's where counterbalance is from as well, isn't he?

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: here how to tag someone? i means by which symbol?

MSmits: yes he is also from private

MSmits: type start of name

MSmits: then tab

eulerscheZahl: just write the name and it will be red for that one person

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: MSmits not works

MSmits: it works

MSmits: you did it

MSmits: message is red for me ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN

Daporan: MSmits, maybe you can train a NN and then "fill the gaps" with the book to create a perfect bot. Think of the NN as a lossy compression algorithm.

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: really thanks for help me to tag someone.

MSmits: yeah Daporan that was exactly my plan. Basically the endgame book (the game between 36 and 9 seeds) i dont have in my live bot because it obviously doesnt fit. so i was going to train that part

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: i 'm new here to learn python and also improve my english so please help!!

MSmits: the early game can just have an opening book, doesnt have to be big and if the opponent deviates from it too much then he's playing bad anyway and i can just use the nn to play it ou

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: MSmits here the coding is so difficult

MSmits: we have simple puzzles too, but of course everything is relative, so simple might not be simple for you. Or maybe it is, depends on your experience

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: its very different from pycharm

MSmits: you mean the IDE they use. Then don't use it

MSmits: paste the code into your pycharm and work there, then paste it back to test it

MSmits: thats how i work most of the time

MSmits: except for very short puzzles

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: yeah but the puzzles code not working in the IDE

MSmits: ahh i mean you cant do test cases, true, for those you need to paste the code in the CG IDE, you cant test in pycharm

MSmits: unless you set something up to use the same input, but that might be too much work for a simple puzzle

eulerscheZahl: i usually copy-paste the CG input into a text file and set that as stdin for my IDE

eulerscheZahl: oh, you beat me on it

MSmits: yeah, i've maybe once or twice done that, but usually i dont

MSmits: i have to think about how to do that, so it takes me more time

eulerscheZahl: i do it for bigger things (bot, optim) but also for puzzle contests like codeforces, codejam

eulerscheZahl: for all other cases i just that junk-project that i reuse when i don't need it anymore

MSmits: I used it for your number shifting puzzle, but you provided helpful code

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: The logic of CG IDE is very different from PyCharm

MSmits: no doubt, i usually use visual studio for C# and C++. Also very different

eulerscheZahl: not when you set up your project properly

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: CG IDE is like professional

MSmits: oh you're saying CG is better

MSmits: i guess for python it's different

eulerscheZahl: that's the first time is see someone calling it like that

MSmits: maybe for python it's good?

eulerscheZahl: it's still mostly a text editor with a language server that often loses connection

MSmits: I admit i had no problems using it for python in simple puzzles

MSmits: I guess if you dont need the intellisense much, you dont miss it

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: the CG IDE is out of my mind range..:joy::joy:

eulerscheZahl: and the lack of debugging, breakpoints, ... is an absolute dealbreaker to me

eulerscheZahl: on top i use git versioning for my bots

MSmits: yeah I guess I almost never use advanced debugging features in IDEs

MSmits: I dont think i ever used a breakpoint :P

eulerscheZahl: you never fail to surprise me

MSmits: I am very creative with console debug messages :)

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: MSmits are you python developer?

MSmits: not really no, i use python for work sometimes

MSmits: but i teach so they are simple things and toy projects

eulerscheZahl: sometimes those debug messages can be helpful. when your BFS stops working 20 iterations in and you don't want to do all those debugger steps

MSmits: how would you use a breakpoint for that?

MSmits: i would just have a counter and use binary search to find the correct iteration

eulerscheZahl: i mean cerr

eulerscheZahl: there are conditional breakpoints, sure. but i rarely use them, makes the code running much slower

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Actually i learned python basic from youtube (CodewithHarry) but here ?????

eulerscheZahl: if (condition) System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Break() :angel:

MSmits: ah ok

MSmits: i guess i would just use an actual "break" and debug messages

MSmits: to break out of whatver loop

eulerscheZahl: when you know the basics of python, just make sure that you also know input() and print(), then you are ready to go here on codingame

MSmits: ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN the input structure takes some getting used to maybe (the while loop for different turns in some puzzles), but once you get that, using python here is very basic

MSmits: this time you were faster

eulerscheZahl: user level at 9 already, so you seemingly understood how to use the website already

MSmits: ah yeah level 9 means quite a few puzzles done

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: MSmits in every Clash of Code i have 0% score............:sob::sob:

MSmits: ahh who cares about clash, I am not that great at them either, usually i dont win

MSmits: time limits suck

MSmits: any time you dont find the solution in time, it's just wasted time

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Give some ideas

MSmits: do puzzles until you get tired of them, then do optims and multis

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: MSmits your good name please?

MSmits: thats the correct way to use CG

MSmits: my good name?

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Ok Thanks for your ideas

MSmits: np

MSmits: are you using a translator?

MSmits: it's fine, i am just wondering

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: yeah i'm asking about your name?

MSmits: msmits is my real name

MSmits: the rest of the m being private :P

MSmits: but if you are really dedicated i can be found i suppose. Not too worried

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: smits is ok but m for what?

MSmits: private :)

Astrobytes: M for Mad

MSmits: sure that works

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: no i cant use translator at all

Husoski: Messer?

MSmits: hah no

MSmits: that sounds German

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: its means you are mad....:joy: ok sorry

MSmits: heh thats ok, I have actually shared my real name here before, but it's a bad habit

MSmits: don't want an angry Polish person at my door because i counterbooked his bot

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Sir don't mind ok i'm new here

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: no no every person are good but they react a bad behave by his tention

jacek: :rage;

jacek: :rage:

MSmits: :grin:

MSmits: I didn't do it yet jacek, hold off on the rage :)

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: i 'm too weak in english......but please manage

MSmits: we try

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: thats good

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Is there any Afghani in Netherland

MSmits: yeah I am sure we have some refugees

MSmits: not sure how many

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Ok ...... How they react ?

MSmits: did you flee from Afghanistan or have you grown up in Pakistan?

MSmits: i dont know any personally

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Yeah i'm basically from Afghanistan but now studying in Pakistan

MSmits: but you won't go back will you?

MSmits: you really shouldn't, if you have a choice

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: i ts means you don't phase any refugee

MSmits: phase?

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: sorry face....

MSmits: no i don't know any refugees personally, but there might be a camp somewhere nearby.

MSmits: or maybe they live in ordinary houses. I havent looked into it much

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: i will back to my country after complete master Degree

MSmits: aren't you afraid about how things are now?

MSmits: i guess it might be different depending on your background, but for us westerners it seems like a bad place to be

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: everything's is ok for us because we grown up in that type of situation

MSmits: I see

MSmits: so you just want to go back and help build up your country under whatever circumstances you run into?

MSmits: I respect that.

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: Yeah i want to do something better for my country and build up and also train my peoples

MSmits: that's great

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: A lot of my country peoples are uneducated that's why there are many problems are going on.

MSmits: yes, education is everything

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: by the why i love cricket

MSmits: haha yes I know cricket is big over there

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: and we have a series with your country team...:joy: in this month

MSmits: oh really. I suspect we suck, but i have no idea

MSmits: this is a soccer country mostly

MSmits: but we do well in some other sports

MSmits: skating, hockey i think

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: its means you are not interested in cricket...:joy:

MSmits: exactly

MSmits: but the guys that will be playing your team are obviously very interested

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: i am too confused what should i do in my final project????

MSmits: I would always go for something with AI, but that might be too hard.

MSmits: maybe a simple tic tac toe game?

jacek: master project?

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: yaa i have a subject Artificial Intelligence in 6th, 7th, 8th semester

struct: ttt seems way too simple for final project

MSmits: nice!

MSmits: yeah for a master project it is

MSmits: if it's just a 1 semester python coding class it's fine

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: no Bachelor projects

jacek: still too simple

MSmits: hard to say really

MSmits: would have to see the course material to see how deep it goes

MSmits: if it is completely introductory to coding it should be hard enough

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: ok i'm to eat something......if you want i can parcel you

MSmits: parcel?

struct: just do some ML stuff

MSmits: ML is fun

jacek: i think he means message or DM/PM

MSmits: oh ok

MSmits: yeah sure

Astrobytes: parcel->mail->email?

MSmits: a wild astrobytes appears!

Astrobytes: I've been here for ages

MSmits: yeah lurking, i tabbed you earler when trying to ping ali

Astrobytes: I said M for Mad earlier

jacek: why would you ping Astrobytes needlessly

MSmits: oh right

MSmits: maybe you've just become part of the furniture and i dont register :P

Astrobytes: it's not annoying anymore jacek

Astrobytes: possible :D

jacek: Automaton2000 is it true?

Automaton2000: we are more "abstract based" :d

awesomedude123: hey i need some help. The clash I am doing right now is asking to do a "XORing" over a list

eulerscheZahl: "a wild astrobytes appears!" Illedan sent him

awesomedude123: but i am confused what that even means

awesomedude123: does someone mind explaining

MSmits: xoring means using the bit operation "xor" or ^

eulerscheZahl: XOR over list of integers?

awesomedude123: yeah a list of ints

Astrobytes: I was already here eulerscheZahl, just didn't have the tab open

awesomedude123: do I have to do some operation on the integer?

awesomedude123: like using ^

eulerscheZahl: in most languages: a XOR b is written as a ^ b

eulerscheZahl: basically it takes the binary form of the numbers and checks digit by digit

MSmits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate

MSmits: green truth table is the most helpful

eulerscheZahl: 0^0 = 0 0^1=1 1^1=0

eulerscheZahl: XOR = exclusive or

MSmits: but yeah just using the operation "^" blindly should work too

MSmits: i guess you dont even have to know what it does

eulerscheZahl: and https://www.binaryhexconverter.com/decimal-to-binary-converter for understanding

awesomedude123: cause the list consists of 1 and 0 but I am unsure what to do. Do I just do like 1^0

MSmits: depends on the problem description

MSmits: xoring one number with another means doing a ^b

eulerscheZahl: what coding language?

awesomedude123: python

struct: I think its already in binary form

MSmits: ohh that makes things difficult

eulerscheZahl: result = 0 for n in list: result ^= n print(result)

MSmits: you need to write a converter from binary to decimal

struct: no MSmits

struct: you just need a for loop

MSmits: or xor them character by character i guess

struct: and a[i] ^ b[i]

MSmits: ah right that works

eulerscheZahl: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/?q=xor&category=CLASHOFCODE&title=on&statement=on&tests=on&comments=on&tags=on&author=on

eulerscheZahl: way too much

eulerscheZahl: such an original theme

eulerscheZahl: might be https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/1268a2ed4d50a09abd4d5b396abc79e23cc

eulerscheZahl: and CodinBot broke the formatting while deactivating reverse. I wonder if that also affects the version visible to clashers

eulerscheZahl: can't even open it with the lower button

MSmits: so many xor puzzles

eulerscheZahl: sum(nums) % 2 would also do the trick

struct: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/90851486e43c909c4a32c7dfb9f2deb15e22b9

awesomedude123: thanks guys

awesomedude123: got it

eulerscheZahl: powerful struct with his 300+ clashes

struct: missing a 0

Astrobytes: lol

eulerscheZahl: input() print(sum(map(int, input().split()))%2)

eulerscheZahl: did it

MSmits: magic

eulerscheZahl: johnson

MSmits: sure

jacek: no need to use xor, just train nn for it

eulerscheZahl: but all the different input sizes :scream:

jacek: use RNN [solved]

struct: so this is what I need to stop NNs, different board sizes

eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/tulips-and-daisies

jacek: :scream:

MSmits: it definitely helps in making it harder to stop NN's.

MSmits: but it wont stop it definitively, it just stops nn creators that are not that good at it

MSmits: re curse was able to use his toto zero with many different starting boards. Not different sizes, but different setups

MSmits: well there were dead hexes so kind of different sizes

struct: :thinking:

MSmits: you'd basically either make completely different networks based on how many different sizes there are or you'd mask unusable hexes/cells

MSmits: probably the masking is more codesize-efficient

struct: probably yes

jacek: sc2021 has fixed size, just mask unused hexes

jacek: CNN suffers less from changing board size, as the go bots were still good for 21x21 and 17x17 sizes

jacek: also there are some tricks to make it board size invariant i.e. havannah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havannah#Computer_Havannah

MSmits: yeah that was my point though, it's an extra step to make it harder for nn creators

MSmits: it also makes them less efficient I think, maybe requiring a larger network

MSmits: oh and CNN itself is already beyond many of our NN creators. The ones that use Marchetes framework for example

struct: too many types of NNs

MSmits: well thats good

MSmits: I like variety

MSmits: it's cool how many types work on oware

MSmits: could also be a sign that the game is too simple

ALI_KHAN_AFGHAN: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/MLp-7sK-BUO-pjU

MSmits: i clicked it accidentally

MSmits: i dont do escape

jacek: i think oware is dominated by one-hots MLP

eulerscheZahl: so you just click links in the chat? how about this? https://www.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=955564061908

BlaiseEbuth: Mods ! Ban eulerscheZahl

eulerscheZahl: ban BlaiseEbuth and get a free pass from Thibaud

BlaiseEbuth: Works too.

BlaiseEbuth: Pass for what ?

struct: double or nothing?

eulerscheZahl: pass for banning a well known user

BlaiseEbuth: An achievement so?

eulerscheZahl: still waiting for them to remove my contest creator achievement

eulerscheZahl: or contest participant :smirk:

BlaiseEbuth: And the aneo ones

eulerscheZahl: they are still there?

jacek: why would they remove them

eulerscheZahl: you can't create a community contest anymore, so that one is clear

BlaiseEbuth: Of course they are. On CG the only thing that can be deleted is my account.

eulerscheZahl: "happy birthday, play 12 contests" that takes 6 years if we have 2 contests a year, which sounds questionable to me

Astrobytes: Meh. Who cares? :D

BlaiseEbuth: Don't question, you'll be banned.

eulerscheZahl: i don't have backups of all my bots

Astrobytes: fixit

BlaiseEbuth: Time to get them...

eulerscheZahl: do you have a script for me?

BlaiseEbuth: https://chadok.info/codingame/

eulerscheZahl: no, for downloading my codes

eulerscheZahl: oh wait

BlaiseEbuth: Yeah, item 6

eulerscheZahl: cool, thanks

eulerscheZahl: i'm always impressed what you can do with bash if you know how

BlaiseEbuth: Yeah... If you know how :sweat_smile:

eulerscheZahl: me creating a folder so i can copy the target path into the script '/home/eulerschezahl/Documents/Programming/challenges/CodinGame/backup' already exists, aborting.

eulerscheZahl: it's doing something

BlaiseEbuth: Yes, the script is not really flexible ^^ I had to try several times before I got it to work properly.

eulerscheZahl: skipped the python2 backup but that's fine with me i guess

eulerscheZahl: i know i could just comment that 1 line back in again

eulerscheZahl: and it lacks parallelism, my replay downloader uses 50 threads by default until CG temporarily blocks me

eulerscheZahl: oh, it even has a sleep not to stress more

BlaiseEbuth: Yeah there's a bunch of amelioration to do. But on the other hand, you only have to run it one time... So...

eulerscheZahl: i just let it run

eulerscheZahl: codegolf finished already, on easy now. would take me longer to code it all by myself

jacek: do you trust blaise that much? what if it sends the code to him

Astrobytes: not his script

eulerscheZahl: i have the bash code here, readable

eulerscheZahl: and i bet it's authored by stilgart himself

eulerscheZahl: in case you are here (i don't see the list of all users anymore): thank you very much

BlaiseEbuth: :( You're so mean jacek.

eulerscheZahl: hmpf, also skipped my swift3

eulerscheZahl: that brilliant marslander1 solution

eulerscheZahl: would be a true loss to humanity

eulerscheZahl: it also creates folders if you haven't even tried the puzzle?

BlaiseEbuth: Ah yes, all the folders are created.

Astrobytes: definitely written by Stilgart

eulerscheZahl: that's expensive, do you think all these folders grow on trees?

eulerscheZahl: ban pun, couldn't resist

eulerscheZahl: bad*

Astrobytes: lol

BlaiseEbuth: I didn't let it finish since I already have my backups.

eulerscheZahl: i'm 20 puzzles into the easy community ones now

eulerscheZahl: with a 10s sleep after each one

eulerscheZahl: screw this, i'll stress the server

eulerscheZahl: and get my python2+swift3

jacek: what if you get banned

eulerscheZahl: as long as the script finishes before

eulerscheZahl: already overtook the sleeper script

eulerscheZahl: i've downloaded tens of thousands of OoC replays during the recalc as soon as they were played, nothing ever happened of it. even asked if it's ok on the private game creation discord channel

jacek: private game creation discord channel :thinking:

eulerscheZahl: on CG discord, each community contest got its own private channel just for creators

eulerscheZahl: at least after they moved away from slack

eulerscheZahl: i still have a folder with 46472 replay files

eulerscheZahl: 46.472 items, totalling 4,9 GB

eulerscheZahl: all the effort just to share some charts with you guys

eulerscheZahl: https://eulerschezahl.github.io/OceanOfCode/ooc_stats.html

Default avatar.png skim2086: Does anyone have a solution for ASCII Cube in Haskell? I've been at it for 6 days now, but I Can't figure it out for the life of me...

eulerscheZahl: i'm sure Stilgart did. he solved it and Haskell is his default language

eulerscheZahl: oh yes, with haskell 5 months ago

Default avatar.png skim2086: I presume there isn't any easy way for me to check it if I haven't completed it at all, right?

eulerscheZahl: you can hope that stilgart or JBM are online and willing to reply

Default avatar.png skim2086: Hmmm, aight, thank you :D

Default avatar.png JBM: lol

Default avatar.png JBM: AA is easy, I'm sure even eZ has an answer to that

eulerscheZahl: my haskell doesn't go beyond a "hello world" and i'm allergic to ascii art

MSmits: use:

MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/23025447-0181-439b-807e-d078774653bc

eulerscheZahl: the backup script just saved by last number shifting submission. most useless backup i can think of

eulerscheZahl: oh, it finished :tada:

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: a bash script that pulls everything? that sounds useful

Default avatar.png JBM: if you value what you submit

eulerscheZahl: just the last submit of each language

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: How long did it take to run?

eulerscheZahl: 25min. but longer for you as you have many languages on everything

eulerscheZahl: and i outcommented all sleep statements

e_fishel: hi

bmacho: i want the script that downloads something too

bmacho: pls Q.Q

eulerscheZahl: https://chadok.info/codingame/ point 7

BlaiseEbuth: -1

bmacho: now they save somewhere which languages I tried the onboarding

bmacho: yay

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: something fishy on point 2

eulerscheZahl: because you are missing?

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: heh heh, yeah just kidding

**BlaiseEbuth slaps Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker around a bit with a large fishbot

bmacho: how they know if a player opened the IDE for a puzzle :0

bmacho: fishy

derjack: oO

noisy_datum: anyone skilled in web development?

eulerscheZahl: depends, get to the point

jacek: the suspense is killing me

eulerscheZahl: maybe there is no follow-up question after all

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Wont banned him for off topic

Assasint: Hello

TheDice: Hello

Ooflord: hi

Assasint: Guy

Assasint: What up

Ooflord: what is the best website to learn python 3?

Ooflord: nothing much

Ooflord: bc im trying to learn but i cant find a good free course

Assasint: I know one site

Ooflord: what is is? :0

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: codecadamy is a good one but the python 3 course is not free

Ooflord: yeah

Ooflord: i learned a bit of python 3 with codecademy but it wont let me learn more

Assasint: It great

Ooflord: i tried learning python 2 with codecademy but its really outdated

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: i was learning from programming with mosh

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: he has a great course

Ooflord: ohhhh k ill give that a try

HungryBurger: I've been satisfied with the Python examples on this site: https://www.w3schools.com/python/

Ooflord: okay tysm guys ill give mosh and w3schools a try

Assasint: I know a other site it call udimi

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: and he also gives a lot of challenges through out the course

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: good luck

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: python is really easy to learn and its so much fun

Assasint: It fun learning

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: yep

bmacho: PYTHON IS SO MUCH FUN

Assasint: YEP

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: i'm still learning python and clashofcode helps me so much

jacek: really oO

Default avatar.png EEtojSUM: its a good website to learn problem solving skills

Assasint: Really so

Astrobytes: :rolling_eyes:

Assasint: Why are making that head

Assasint: Set a point

Assasint: Mhhh

eulerscheZahl: clash of code just is unpopular among some of us

Assasint: Why

eulerscheZahl: if you enjoy it, go ahead. if you really want to dive deeper into things and not just solve simple problems, go to harder puzzles or multiplayer games

Assasint: I already did

TheDice: I always ran out of time in clash of code :joy:

eulerscheZahl: reaching bronze in mad pod racing doesn't count

Assasint: I reach gold in Mad Pod Racing

Astrobytes: TheDice: there are no time limitations on the regular (non-clash) puzzles

Ooflord: im trying to learn by practicing python with "The Descent"

Astrobytes: Good!

Assasint: I t is really symple to win the descent

TheDice: imma check that out

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I wonder if you could make one program that solves all easy puzzles

Assasint: I have win it in one shot

eulerscheZahl: you kind of did that Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker you wrote a program that generated solving programs

Assasint: Really

eulerscheZahl: if you really want to submit 1 code everywhere? probably not, or at least not deterministically as you have to detect which puzzle based on a single digit as input sometimes

Assasint: I know that

Assasint: Already

eulerscheZahl: wasn't talking to you

Assasint: To ho

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Yeah, I guess that wouldn't work. Too many common inputs

Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Well, you could read the text files in the directory I guess

eulerscheZahl: in theory it could work. but would need thousands of submits to get that lucky random run

eulerscheZahl: uh, interesting idea

eulerscheZahl: does that work for interactive ones?

Default avatar.png Mario980: Guys what is the best site to learn python?

TheDice: Nice I solved The Descent

Assasint: You know I have already solve the descent

Assasint: 4th Dimension


Default avatar.png Mario980: Couldn't solve The Descent

Assasint: I have solve The Descent

ninjadip: i'm sorry, but idk, what's that puzzle about, briefly

ninjadip: Assasint

TheDice: It gives you some numbers as input and you need the output the highest number

eulerscheZahl: the index of the highest number

TheDice: oh, yeah, forgot that

eulerscheZahl: C# got a MaxBy recently. but not available on CG yet

Default avatar.png barmiextreme: anyone with java knowledge here? i just cannot get the chuck norris thing running in "Unary".. (i know my code is messy:D)

ninjadip: oh that unary is a nightmare

Default avatar.png barmiextreme: oh thanks then im not alone

AdnaneCoder: hi

AdnaneCoder: how are you

AdnaneCoder: ?

AdnaneCoder: h r u

AdnaneCoder: hru

e_fishel: i'm good

e_fishel: thanks for asking

e_fishel: and you?

S4IF: yoo guys I just did 100% on python test any congrats ? :) <3

e_fishel: poggers

bmacho: nice

bmacho: I wonder that I have a certification too, and I give them my name too, is that visible from my profile?

bmacho: if you click the certification

bmacho: *gave

5DN1L: No, we can't see your name

bmacho: thanks

5DN1L: :)

Default avatar.png Frogmit: Is there no string interpolation for java script ?

Default avatar.png Frogmit: nevermind didn't see it needed back ticks

MSmits: no idea what back ticks are

Default avatar.png Frogmit: it's this char: `

MSmits: oh ok

MSmits: and what's string interpolation again?

MSmits: is that when you put a variable inside the quotes of a string?

Default avatar.png Frogmit: Yes, exactly with generally the format "${var}"

Astrobytes: that's when you interpolate a string :smirk:

MSmits: ah ok thanks

MSmits: Astrobytes explained it best

Astrobytes: :grin:

jacek: oO

DialFrost: morning

bmacho: 2am

Flaise: Hey guys

Default avatar.png ArcherTao: How to make Thor move angle

Blokops: "NE" for north east

Blokops: "SE", "SW" and so on and on

Flaise: Thor move direction Thor want move. Thor no need directions from scrawny programerers.

MSmits: Hulk smash

jacek: oO

Default avatar.png RevantMV: hi

Dren: hello

bootyface: hola