Rice_Puddn: I H A D C A P S L O C K O N
Rice_Puddn: D:
SeanDaSheep: lol
SeanDaSheep: I suck at coding
WhoTho: same
rizonbro: lol
rizonbro: I am soooo stupid in coding
rizonbro: lol
rizonbro: me
DrQuarius: We all start that way. Practice easy puzzles. : )
DrQuarius: and read through the standard library of your language. : )
jacek: happy Caturday
RandomAustralian: Has anyone been noticing a lot more math related questions?
RandomAustralian: Like questions that require very little programming, and just a knowledge of mathematics
jacek: where
ommprakashmohanty9-0: mcvj jn ;kn df
ommprakashmohanty9-0: v
ommprakashmohanty9-0: f
ommprakashmohanty9-0: d bv
ommprakashmohanty9-0: b
Dawar: cuz those r easier to make
eulerscheZahl: if you want coding, may I introduce you to the multiplayer section of this page?
diosssss: wazzuopp
ZXC01: ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: hi
eulerscheZahl: 1 "hi" is enough
Andret0701: hii
jacek: hihi
MSmits: morning
MSmits: been doing puzzles lately. When I am a bit too tired to work on a bot, I can still do puzzles I noticed
jacek: in 9mm tric quite often wins by blocking opponent
MSmits: yeah thats how 9mm is often won
MSmits: which is also why my piece counting AI is bad
MSmits: I think i'll just write an ab bot using one of the evals you can find in papers
MSmits: (free papers!)
jacek: what papers
MSmits: sec
MSmits: http://www.dasconference.ro/papers/2008/B7.pdf
MSmits: thats just the first thing that popped up
MSmits: there are many
MSmits: a lot has to do with positioning
jacek: thankies
MSmits: piece count is just one part of it
MSmits: np
MSmits: apparently humans suck at this game
UnnamedCodinGamer: the opening sentence is deep
jacek: lets book it
MSmits: I think I can fully book the opening by solving the game, but you still need to play well in the moving phase
MSmits: probably can also fit an endgame book for 3v3 by generating it in the first second
MSmits: maybe also 4v3
MSmits: but not 9v9 and some such. That takes too much time
MSmits: (and memory)
MSmits: so one of those NN could still beat me when I put in all the tricks I mentioned. But I am thinking about training NN for this one because it's fully solvable and that makes it a nice case for supervised learning
jacek: fully strongly solvable?
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: there's 24 endgame db's required 9v9 all the way to 9v3 and 3v3
MSmits: but they take less than 1GB
MSmits: as opposed to several TB for oware
MSmits: so then all you need to solve is the opening 18 plies
MSmits: this can be done with simple ab search
eulerscheZahl: do puzzles
MSmits: the real bottleneck for solving it is the coding, it's a lot of work
MSmits: yeah eulerscheZahl, been enjoying them
MSmits: i do easy ones first, so will be a while till i hit yours
MSmits: 60 easy's left
MSmits: 2-4 a day, so will be a few weeks, then medium
MSmits: isnt your minesweeper in there? Or is that hard?
UnnamedCodinGamer: :)
UnnamedCodinGamer: @MSmits, are you doing all of them one by one?
MSmits: yeah until i get bored with it. Last time i went on a spree i solved 50 easy's
MSmits: so far all puzzles were good ones
UnnamedCodinGamer: this is quite a feat indeed
MSmits: i guess because they get recommended in order from good to bad?
UnnamedCodinGamer: I am not sure how goodness is measured
MSmits: people rate it
MSmits: my rating is useless, i give everything 5 stars :P
Nerdnee: how are you supposed to optimize this for larger numbers?
MSmits: "this"?
UnnamedCodinGamer: I give 5 or 4 stars usually
MSmits: Nerdnee there's thousands of things to do on codingame. Be more specific :)
Nerdnee: the lucky number question by dogther
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/training/expert/the-lucky-number
Nerdnee: yes
MSmits: have not done that, but it's classified as very hard so yeah... apparently thats what it is :)
MSmits: successrate 21%
Nerdnee: yeah that's why I'm attempting to challenge myself but it's a bit difficult
Nerdnee: obviously
eulerscheZahl: you are really brave enough for the easy puzzles?
MSmits: I am :grin:
Nerdnee: I could try more of those too
eulerscheZahl: i see most of them as a pile of junk
MSmits: it's just relaxing for me.
eulerscheZahl: and repetitive
MSmits: so far I don't think they were. But i didnt do as many as you did
UnicornFlake: It is really good
MSmits: I liked westicles water puzzle and some of those made by java coffee cup
eulerscheZahl: at some point i just got annoyed
MSmits: yeah i quit at some point also
MSmits: but not yet
eulerscheZahl: harder ones get more interesting, at least some of them
UnicornFlake: i gonna clasch
MSmits: the ones i did always required some insight, or using the right collection (like a set, dictionary or several lists)
MSmits: with the wrong collection type you time out
MSmits: thats good I think
MSmits: but yeah it could be repetitive
UnnamedCodinGamer: I am cherry picking
UnnamedCodinGamer: and yes the ones I have done are not bad
eulerscheZahl: i guess i did some more of that kind (most just on CG) so i quickly get bored
MSmits: yeah and also you quickly get bored in general. Well compared to me anyways
eulerscheZahl: cherry picking is what I do as well. but it's hard to find the cherries
UnicornFlake: I FINIS CLACHING AND I HAVE A 100
eulerscheZahl: have you been kicked before UnicornFlake?
MSmits: yeah it's hard to find the cherries if you dont solve them. All you can say is the description looks amateurish or not
UnnamedCodinGamer: hm
UnnamedCodinGamer: tags also help
eulerscheZahl: when I see a wall of text, I usually close it right away
MSmits: true, but they arent always correct
eulerscheZahl: tags are spoilers on how to solve it :(
MSmits: true, but for easy puzzles that i sok
eulerscheZahl: finding the algo is the fun part of it
UnnamedCodinGamer: to some extent yes
MSmits: oh and now that I feel comfortable with python it is also a joy to use it for this
eulerscheZahl: let's take this one for instance: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/parsing-context-free-grammar
eulerscheZahl: could be interesting to figure it out on your own (not for me, I had this topic covered in my CS lecture)
MSmits: oh it's hard
eulerscheZahl: but the statement tells you to use the CYK algo. where's the challenge now? just look it up
MSmits: ah but that assumes that you can easily implement any algorithm that is new to you
MSmits: you are a veteran at this
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYK_algorithm#As_pseudocode
MSmits: I still struggle to implement something when I read about it
MSmits: yeah i am sure you can convert something like that to real code quite easily, but it would take me some time to get it to work
eulerscheZahl: or in python https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/cocke-younger-kasami-cyk-algorithm/
MSmits: well ok that makes it easy :)
UnnamedCodinGamer: now I see that I have tried it and fail from the 4-th test
UnnamedCodinGamer: I bet I did not get the dynamic programming part
MSmits: I think i looked up the definition of dynamic programming 5 times and keep forgetting what it means
MSmits: it's not a very descriptive name
eulerscheZahl: store the results instead of recomputing
MSmits: yeah, something i do all the time
MSmits: "dynamic" makes it sound a lot more than it really easy
MSmits: is
MSmits: caching results is common sense
UnnamedCodinGamer: even if you have pseudo code and know which is the right algorithm it is still a challenge to understand how it works
MSmits: yeah I agree
UnnamedCodinGamer: copy/paste is pointless of course
MSmits: sometimes it's presented in a perfectly pluginnable way, but usually yeah
RandomAustralian: can anyone please tell me why this code:
MSmits: plugginable :tm:
RandomAustralian: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/08f78e7e-af6d-42e3-b23a-750f56cf0fac
RandomAustralian: Keeps on giving me the value of 21845
MSmits: invalid paste
eulerscheZahl: fun fact: "linear programming" isn't really about programming and more about math. it's called programming to get research funds
RandomAustralian: https://pastebin.com/j7TK5tDZ
UnnamedCodinGamer: yes, and sometimes you can find it in many languages
MSmits: RandomAustralian start b at 0
MSmits: it's not initialized
RandomAustralian: oml
RandomAustralian: ty ;o
eulerscheZahl: declaring m twice is also something to reconsider
RandomAustralian: I have been struggling with it going too high for ages
RandomAustralian: ty for the help
RandomAustralian: euler that was a typo, ty for pointing it out (need to change one of em to another letter)
MSmits: yeah, c++ doesn't care about any of that stuff you're doing wrong. Might want to try a different language
MSmits: avoid headaches
MSmits: unless you're specifically practicing c++
MSmits: in that case have.... fun :)
RandomAustralian: damn
RandomAustralian: Guess learning it will be a pain then xD
MSmits: well it has major advantages if you care about performance
MSmits: but for puzzles, you generally don't
eulerscheZahl: C# is close to C++ regarding basics syntax
MSmits: C# is nice for puzzles.
eulerscheZahl: but doesn't allow you to make some of the C++ mistakes
MSmits: I do python now because I lost some speed with C# because I haven't used it in a long time
MSmits: python is so nice. Try declaring a list in C# and python and compare how much you need to type
eulerscheZahl: List<int> l = new();
eulerscheZahl: vs
l = []
MSmits: ye
eulerscheZahl: did you know the C# syntax I just used?
MSmits: no, i didnt
eulerscheZahl: that new(); is, well... new
MSmits: new List<int>()
eulerscheZahl: not sure if CG already supports it
MSmits: is what i'd use
MSmits: i always thought that part of C# syntax was weird
MSmits: why specify the type twice
eulerscheZahl: even Java has
List<Integer> l = new ArrayList<>();
eulerscheZahl: the diamond <>
MSmits: ArrayList is a stupid name
MSmits: is it a list or an array
eulerscheZahl: it tells you what kind of implementation it uses under the hood
eulerscheZahl: as opposed to linked list
MSmits: ah
Peppsi: does codingame actually give you a chance to get a job?
eulerscheZahl: they are hiring
Peppsi: I don't mean the company, i mean the "Get a Job" section
eulerscheZahl: https://www.welcometothejungle.com/fr/companies/codingame/jobs/backend-engineer_montpellier_CODIN_NNJ1XYD
MSmits: it trains you at some things Peppsi, it depends on what you do here. But it's not like you can show your CG profile and people hire you because of that
eulerscheZahl: 34k-46k€ for backend. not that much
Peppsi: like, does the "Get a job" function work?
MSmits: probably yeah
eulerscheZahl: no idea. i have a job already and ignored it
Peppsi: thanks the same
MSmits: they make money getting people jobs and getting companies new employees
MSmits: so i'd assume it works
Peppsi: yeah makes sense
MSmits: depends on how well you qualify ofc
Peppsi: true
MSmits: btw, I joined a company sponsored contest once, did not even rank all that high and got phonecalls so...
eulerscheZahl: they stopped those sponsored contests
MSmits: really, those too?
MSmits: i thought just community ones
eulerscheZahl: concentrating more on clashes and escapes for team building
MSmits: oh I see
eulerscheZahl: no more sponsored contests according to Thibaud discord message
eulerscheZahl: Sogeti was the last one
MSmits: I wonder why, I always thought these were good for CG
eulerscheZahl: maybe not the return that organizers were hoping for? that's why halite stopped
MSmits: I see
MSmits: well what I noticed from them it was always the same crowd at the top ranks and they already have jobs if they want to
eulerscheZahl: and let's have a look at those CG private contests: top spots were all taken by CG veterans who do it for the fun of competing and not for a job interview
eulerscheZahl: yes, that
MSmits: right makes sense
eulerscheZahl: just speculating here
UnnamedCodinGamer: I activated the get a job thing, a while ago, not sure if anyone actually looked at it, so I would say it does not work
MSmits: maybe noone looks in switzerland
UnnamedCodinGamer: maybe
UnnamedCodinGamer: but it is unlikely
MSmits: I think if you live in Paris or some such, the result might be different
MSmits: probably linked in could get you a job quicker than that link
MSmits: if you like getting spammed by recruiters
UnnamedCodinGamer: my linked in account is very shy and modest :)
MSmits: ahh modesty is not how you get jobs I think
MSmits: should at least say there you enjoy bungeejumping and such
UnnamedCodinGamer: hah
MSmits: bungeejumping while working on a spreadsheet
UnnamedCodinGamer: :))
UnnamedCodinGamer: I am utterly poor at self advertising
MSmits: you can probably find someone on linked in who will do that for you
eulerscheZahl: same
UnnamedCodinGamer: it is a skill for itself
eulerscheZahl: "why should we hire you?" um, no idea
RandomAustralian: man c++ can be annoying ;/
MSmits: because I suck less than the other guys applying for this job
eulerscheZahl: got a paid study with practical training as an electrician included. that hiring process had a group interview included
eulerscheZahl: i ranked 8th out of 8
eulerscheZahl: somehow still got the job. i'm still there (or again, let my contract end to do my master degree)
MSmits: wait, you are an electrician?
eulerscheZahl: bachelor in electrical engineering. and a practical degree
MSmits: nice
eulerscheZahl: i can legally do wiring up to 1000V
MSmits: I can barely switch out a light bulb
eulerscheZahl: but the comp sci part got me more interested than how transistors work
MSmits: ye
UnnamedCodinGamer: kind of same with me
eulerscheZahl: had exams that demanded knowledge how they work down to the level of atoms. forgot most of it again :(
MSmits: don't know many electricians that look at a broken fuse and say: "I think this has too few atoms"
eulerscheZahl: computing some micro current effects and such
UnnamedCodinGamer: pnp npn
eulerscheZahl: yes, but in more detail
eulerscheZahl: real life problems, not just the idealized model
MSmits: I had some practical classes for this, but my study mate did all the work
MSmits: i could not keep up with him
eulerscheZahl: :D
MSmits: I was trying to understand the reading while he was blowing up fuses
MSmits: he didnt even read the stuff
MSmits: he just guessed whether it was *5 or /5 resistance and if it started smoking he assumed he did it wrong
MSmits: i was good with the laser optics and such
eulerscheZahl: for one class we had to solder. there was this guy who had no clue and tried with his bare hands (you will burn them)
MSmits: yeah
eulerscheZahl: i stopped him. that's how i got my group partner, wasn't a great help
MSmits: you learn the most though
MSmits: i learned nothing because of my partner
MSmits: one of the first things i had to teach when i became teacher was parallel and serial stuff
eulerscheZahl: this was the only exam in my whole study that I didn't write directly but postponed for a semester
MSmits: while i understood the theory, i didnt even know how to measure the current through them
eulerscheZahl: my nightmare class
eulerscheZahl: but thanks to the pratical part of my education that I did in parallel, I had to pause for 1 semester anyways (was planned from the beginning already)
eulerscheZahl: so i just had this 1 exam the whole semester
eulerscheZahl: worked out in the end
MSmits: ah that's nice
MSmits: I am more suited for theoretical stuff... any time I need to do something real it goes bad
MSmits: one time they had me work with an invisible laser that caused subdermal wounds. That was a nightmare
eulerscheZahl: :D
MSmits: We had to use a camera to see where it was pointing
MSmits: really scary
MSmits: and the guy that worked there showed us his arms
MSmits: horrifying
MSmits: was an infrared pulse laser, very high powered
eulerscheZahl: i once got in touch with H2O2 at chemistry class
eulerscheZahl: the skin at the thumb turned white instantly
MSmits: in touch? I slurped it
eulerscheZahl: really?
MSmits: yeah accidentally
eulerscheZahl: doesn't that cause severe damage?
MSmits: i spit it out
MSmits: was low concentration i think
eulerscheZahl: lucky you
MSmits: it was wide in the middle and thin at the top
eulerscheZahl: for me it was the chemistry teacher who spilled a bit on my desk. I tried not to touch it but at some point Iforgot
MSmits: so we had to suck on the thing and when it got past the wide area it shot up
MSmits: my current colleague tells me it's no longer allowed to have students do that
MSmits: for obvious reasons
MSmits: students are stupid :P
MSmits: one of my fellow students once asked why the thermometer is not at 0 when it's not being used
MSmits: oh and if any of my students read this, i am not talking about you of course (mostly)
eulerscheZahl: reminds me of an Hg thermometer blowing up in the physics class
eulerscheZahl: we were supposed to heat water and keep track of used energy vs temperature
eulerscheZahl: now idea how they did it
eulerscheZahl: but the lesson ended early that day
MSmits: ack... yeah you dont want Hg all over the plac
eulerscheZahl: hat maker problems
MSmits: :confused:
MSmits: you also have a hatmaking degree now?
MSmits: full of surprises :)
MSmits: or is this a German expression that doesn't translate well?
eulerscheZahl: in the past hat makers used Hg (not knowing about the health consequences)
MSmits: ohh ok
MSmits: like radium paint for watches
eulerscheZahl: yes
MSmits: and lead in paint
eulerscheZahl: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutmachersyndrom
no English version? :(
MSmits: weird, probably it exists but is not connected
MSmits: i edited a wiki once, you need to manually connect them
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erethism
eulerscheZahl: "mad hatter disease", i like that one
eulerscheZahl: even has a German link. but it doesn't really fit
MSmits: ahh I see
jacek: theres description of the eval https://kartikkukreja.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/heuristicevaluation-function-for-nine-mens-morris/
MSmits: nice thanks
MSmits: it's weird to have an evaluation property for "winning" with some weird param
MSmits: I'd just backpropagate a solved node
jacek: eeyup
jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a1b48195-22fb-4fe3-9a95-28cb2ca9068b
jacek: phew
MSmits: invalid paste
rizonbro: what invalid paste?
rizonbro: but hey
rizonbro: uljahn
rizonbro: can u help me pls
rizonbro: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/64281e03-bccb-4f0e-8c3b-27d8fd733c4a
rizonbro: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/90fc5a8a-d1a0-4691-affd-7dd693376855
rizonbro: sorry no longer
ANONYMOUS42: int main() {
printf("Hello world!");
return 0;
}
ANONYMOUS42: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/828499c3-ebde-42d4-b9ae-c8328b183d04
ANONYMOUS42: the problem is with the codingame pastebin thingy
ANONYMOUS42: just use pastebin.com and share the link
rizonbro: what link
jacek: Automaton2000 what link
Automaton2000: is anyone here really good at it
rizonbro: me nooo
rizonbro: so
rizonbro: what to do now
rizonbro: fornite!
jacek: oO
rizonbro: whattt
rizonbro: wtf'
rizonbro: 02
rizonbro: 023
rizonbro: I am sorry
rizonbro: https://discord.gg/bF7c747UHD
rizonbro: mmmmmmmm
eulerscheZahl: i'm tempted to kick you rizonbro
Uljahn: he's been warned multiple times iirc
eulerscheZahl: i remember the name too
eulerscheZahl: whatever
eulerscheZahl: isn't that they guy with the among us avatar?
eulerscheZahl: wanted to write "rizonbro was not the impostor" upon kick but missed the moment
Peppsi: zamn codingame asked me if i was a bot
Peppsi: i'm that good? /s
eulerscheZahl: new login, affects all of us
Peppsi: ik, i was joking
Uljahn: might be too frequent clashes
Peppsi: yep im kinda spamming
Peppsi: it's quite fun
jacek: clash? fun? :O
Peppsi: stressful but fun
Peppsi: just like league lmao
Lazerbeamyeet: how do i print mutli of the answers on python?
UnnamedCodinGamer: nine men's morris viewer does not work on my side (shows gray screen). can anyone confirm?
jacek: refresh or restart browser
jacek: it works for meh
UnnamedCodinGamer: works on firefox
UnnamedCodinGamer: thanks
Lazerbeamyeet: how do i print multiple answers/strings into a code
Lazerbeamyeet: how do i print multiple answers/strings into a code
jacek: you print line by line
jacek: but what do you mean by multiple answers?
Lazerbeamyeet: when i do that it work work
Lazerbeamyeet: for like clash of code
Lazerbeamyeet: it bugs out
Lazerbeamyeet: and won't wokr
Lazerbeamyeet: work
Lazerbeamyeet: bruh i suck
GamingZone: hi
GamingZone: can someone help with mad pod racing java language
struct: what is the question?
PatrickMcGinnisII: What is dark matter?
zukarinkuari2: dark matter.....
zukarinkuari2: hmmmmmmmmmmm
zukarinkuari2: i think its uhh
zukarinkuari2: i think its a carrot
jacek: is fluttershy a tree?
Beretta_Vexee: It's a my little pony.
jacek: :horse2:
MSmits: :racehorse:
Atharv-.-: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2066285e64284df4ab1c3440521ee06eb857edb
jacek: :unamused:
eulerscheZahl: what a weird email that I just got from (supposedly) topcoder
eulerscheZahl: Hi Ralph, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c14ecc40-1215-449d-b08e-52131022bf83
eulerscheZahl: oh, pastebin dead?
eulerscheZahl: I'm not kidding! I'm not supposed to just email you whenever I want but today I broke all the rules!
It's 2021 Topcoder Open time so rules don't apply. We are running a $10,000 Hackathon with Velo by Wix being announced right now. You get early access ;)
eulerscheZahl: the sender is noreply@topcoder.com as far as I can tell
eulerscheZahl: and they sent it to the email that I use for topcoder. but somehow it looks like phishing
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: "Please give us your paycard informations to register."
eulerscheZahl: Join us at the live event to learn more.
Details and coding starts on Wednesday, November 17. Register now. See you at TCO21 Finals!
eulerscheZahl: that's the rest of the mail that the broken pastebin ate
eulerscheZahl: with 2x the same link
eulerscheZahl: hm, links to a real topcoder contest https://www.topcoder.com/challenges/52289697-0e48-4e97-bac3-382228262a26
eulerscheZahl: strange advertising
MASTER123: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2066344c10fc32c5382ed726a8fe0d0adab6733
eulerscheZahl: no clash links here please
jacek: D:
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: no D: here please
MASTER123: stop
Manjius: :fearful:
Crackouille: C clash of code https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2066412829e3522fdf4c100bc25a9937f7ead8d
philRG:
pas de liens de conflit ici s'il vous plaît
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: No fr here please.
philRG: ooops wrong window
philRG: sorry BlaiseVonEbuthIV
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: :3
jacek: omelette du fromage
eulerscheZahl: it's fine, just chat with us instead of your French friends
jacek: euler why dont you go to french channel. theyll like you, you frog
MSmits: isn't he a toad?
MSmits: hypnotoad
jacek: Toads are a sub-classification of frogs, meaning that all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads.
MSmits: are you sure?
eulerscheZahl: and even if, i'm not sure if the French would be so picky
eulerscheZahl: it's safer when they come here
MSmits: you talk like #fr is a warzone
eulerscheZahl: i'm prepared
https://imgur.com/a/t8HgLsc
https://imgur.com/a/v8p8OL4
MSmits: indeed
eulerscheZahl: on a more serious note: they don't like it when I write English on #fr
eulerscheZahl: or German for the matter
MSmits: why does the one frog have a handheld gaming thingy?
MSmits: or is that a remote for his garage door
eulerscheZahl: because he stole it from a kid
MSmits: ohh... badass!
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: :french_bread::frog::wine_glass:
eulerscheZahl: oh, a delicious Blaise salad right ahead of me. every mod likes that taste
philRG: :yum:
jacek: here, have an aww instead https://v.redd.it/3baa2dsxwcz71/DASH_360.mp4?source=fallback
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Is that some kind of proposal?
eulerscheZahl: that was unexpected jacek
eulerscheZahl: don't worry Blaise. Thibaud is on weekend
MSmits: a Giant Cat !!!
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Giant cats are the best! More to eat.
MSmits: yeah they eat you
jacek: welp https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_NlBrwSDtHql9eGIFdDgIBNMt8bxetutr.gif
MSmits: that's the main question to ask when buying a car. "But does it fit a tank?"
agamagarwal: Is anyone interested in trying the escape room game? https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/XWs-Xkb-oEm-iHe
Amigurumi: I came across this - is this an official repository? CodinGame open source?
Amigurumi: https://github.com/CodinGame
jacek: it seems so
jacek: so far 9mm resists my NN training attempts
jacek: nine men's morris, yet another tutorial game
struct: Amigurumi yes its official
MSmits: jacek, just solve it and use supervised on the results
struct: maybe you will need the 2 nets
MSmits: like the xor example only bigger
jacek: Automaton2000 how do you know this game
Automaton2000: what do you want me to fix it though
Simen: Anyone know how to debug? I'm using python and it tells me to do print("Debug messages...", file=sys.stderr, flush=True) to print, but nothing shows up when I play all testcases
jacek: there should be text in red
eulerscheZahl: have some red jacek
Simen: nothing showing up in console
jacek: :rage:
jacek: whats the code
jacek: code could be crashing before the print
Schwase: debugging debugging
Schwase: haha
Simen: lol
Simen: hmm, it's "There is no Spoon - episode 1"
Simen: just added a print under the for i in range(height) loop
Schwase: i use VS Code a lot and the computer I use in the lab has a space in the adminstrator account name and it makes it that I can't click on the linked debugging lines because it just tries to open the root file (which doesnt exist because its cut by the space) in a separate VS Code window
Schwase: Simen, start by making the first line of your code "print('test',file=sys.stderr,flush=True)"
just to make sure its working
Uljahn: first line should be
import sys
Schwase: yes make sure you dont delete sys
Simen: okey
Simen: removed everything, only import sys on first line and print on the second
Simen: got nothing
Schwase: copy and paste here pls?
Simen: import sys
print('test',file=sys.stderr,flush=True)
Schwase: do it after the input() lines
Schwase: OH
Schwase: scroll to a different game turn
Simen: oh huh
Simen: how do I do that?
Uljahn: i got
Standard Error Stream:
> test
Uljahn: last line in red
Schwase: yeah
Schwase: it works for me
Schwase: with your exact code
Schwase: import sys
print('test',file=sys.stderr,flush=True)
Schwase: Standard Error Stream:
test
Game information:
Initializing APU weaponry...
Schwase: go to "console output"
jacek: it works https://i.imgur.com/H0y6UCV.png
Schwase: make sure you have all 3 optinos in the dropdown selected
Schwase: options*
Schwase: you prolly have debug stream toggled off
Simen: got all 3 selected
Schwase: :O
Simen: but how do I go to a different game turn?
Schwase: in the top left
Schwase: using the arrows
Schwase: on the player
Schwase: do you have "python 3"
Schwase: as the language?
Simen: hmm, like go to another challenge?
Simen: yeah python 3
Uljahn: you have to read inputs in the loop and output a command to progress to the next turns i guess
Schwase: nah it still outputs debugging
Simen: I tried going to another challenge and it worked
Schwase: with 2 lines
Simen: but not on this one
Schwase: did you try refershing?
Schwase: an attempt to spell refreshing was made
Uljahn: with two lines you get one frame, no next turns
Schwase: yeah but its still 0 and 1
Simen: tried refreshing, but still nothing
Simen: but oh well, if it's just this challenge then it's okay, I can do another
Simen: thank you for the help!
Schwase: NO!
Simen: xD
Schwase: THIS MAKES NO SENSE!
Simen: hahah
Simen: yeah it doesn't
Schwase: try unselecting debugging
Schwase: and selecting it
Schwase: and combine that with refreshing the page
Schwase: also does it only happen when you select "play all testcases"? or is it when you try any testcase?
Simen: hmm, still nothing
Simen: it happens for both
Simen: nothing shows up in console
Schwase: change language and change back
Simen: nope, still nothing
Simen: did you make it work on that challenge?
Simen: There is no Spoon - Episode 1
Schwase: yes it worked for me
Uljahn: sure
Schwase: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/754891fa-719e-459a-8544-b0da02a2c5e0
Schwase: well thats cool
Schwase: thanks
Schwase: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/33737de7-ac69-42d5-b41f-020b8579a439
Schwase: was trying to show that its the same game and the stderr prints
Westicles: ooh, another dawg approval. I hope someone actually solved it
Simen: hmm
Schwase: why is there no comment from the approving contributor?
Westicles: a french conspiracy?
eulerscheZahl: you can delete your own comment after approving
eulerscheZahl: Schwase the pastebins are broken
Schwase: oh that makes sense
Schwase: also, good to know, ty
Westicles: others can delete it as well, but I think I lost that ability over prior shenanigans
eulerscheZahl: right, lvl29+ can moderate these comments
eulerscheZahl: i tend to forget what comes from mod status and what from other requirements
eulerscheZahl: e.g. when you are an active forum user (includes likes given+received in a certain amount of time, comments written, ...), you can change the title of forum threads
eulerscheZahl: and when you flag a comment, it becomes invisible instantly and not just after mod review
jacek: :thinking: :imp:
eulerscheZahl: i had that status for a short amount of time. then contests became less frequent and my like-rate dropped below the bar
Jay10890: anyone have the solution for thor puzzle
Schwase: the are 307,852 codingamers with the solution
jacek: you have hints on the left for thor
Jay10890: ik
Jay10890: do you have solution
Uljahn: please stop asking for solutions or ban
Jay10890: its coding related
Jay10890: and the other times i asked it was yesterday
Uljahn: copy-pasting is not coding
Schwase: thats... one argument
Jay10890: its learning
Schwase: is there like an achievement or something for completing that puzzle?
Jay10890: yes
Schwase: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4344ae26-0743-4c5b-97dd-6249e1529c41
jacek: oh my
Schwase: a·chieve·ment
noun
1.
a thing done successfully, typically by effort, courage, or skill.
Jay10890: i know what achievement and i must have effort to ask for anser
Jay10890: answer
Schwase: you've asked unsuccessfully unfortunately im afraid
Uljahn: why are you practicing asking for answers instead of coding?
Schwase: and an achievement must be done successfully
Schwase: its in the defintion
Jay10890: im not gonna argue with you
Schwase: its a losing argument so id say thats a wise choice
struct: you could have solved most of the puzzles by now
Westicles: the worst part is impersonating a US citizen. we are all too honest for that kind of behaviour
UnnamedCodinGamer: @Westicles, I solved DAWG based on implementations similar to your which pop up on the first google search page
Westicles: UnnamedCodinGamer, oh that's great! I always worry I messed something up
UnnamedCodinGamer: well it took me some time to get my head around it
UnnamedCodinGamer: I think it is spot on, except for the case that we both a wrong
UnnamedCodinGamer: :)
Westicles: I have an old c++ version that I actually used back in the day, but it probably isn't minimal and I haven't played with it
UnnamedCodinGamer: I looked at this page for visual aid https://jbp.dev/blog/dawg-basics.html
UnnamedCodinGamer: there are also links to implementations
Westicles: nice
AlexHamiltonsSuicidalCousin: hey
LexDigitals: hii
PATTRIM: hi
Pensa: Hi
Crackouille: Hey
Crackouille: Anyone want to clash of code only C ?
PATTRIM: i do python
Lazerbeamyeet: yo psttrim how do you add multiple answers in python for print it bugs out for me
Lazerbeamyeet: for clash of code
MrMoose356: anyone know how to resolve this message after completing a puzzle? "The following validators differ from the puzzle test cases to prevent hard coded solutions. This is why you can have some fails here even if all of the tests provided in the IDE have been successfully passed."
Stephen10121: After you submit that puzzle, you solution is tested with more puzzles to make sure your not cheating
MrMoose356: the ones it fails at - I should refactor to try and pass these other tests?
Stephen10121: if your solution fail any of the puzzles, then it may be wrong, or the creator messed up.
MrMoose356: looks like it fails on potentially arbitrary answer choices
Stephen10121: i never created a puzzle so I don't know if the creator add the tests or it is automated. In any case it shouldn't be arbitrary.
MrMoose356: found the rule . it was buried "If two words win the same number of points, then the word which appears first in the order of the given dictionary should be chosen."
Stephen10121: Almost this exact thing happened to me
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