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aangairbender: what is default C param value for MCTS where scoring is -1, 0, 1

aangairbender: If I remember correctly, its 0.5 for scoring 0, 0.5, 1

aaron9753: need non bias opinion (if even possible) which is better for game development, c# or python. I'm currently learning c# but have courses for python

aangairbender: aaron9753 you can use c# in Unity, but not python

aaron9753: can't python be used basically as addons for unity?

aangairbender: idk, you can search for that, but for sure main scripting language is c#

aaron9753: ight, than you!

Uljahn: aangairbender: iirc it's sqrt(2)/2 for [-1, 0, 1] and sqrt(2) for [0, 0.5, 1]

aangairbender: ty

tobk: How, if at all, will this new contest be rated? It's first time to finish, not least time to complete, right? (Not that that's really important, just curious.)

Uljahn: first 5 to finish will get t-shirts i guess

Uljahn: first 5 teams

darkhorse64: No CP, no XP, no IA ...

Uljahn: yep, no achievements for the contest

darkhorse64: It's not really a contest, actually

Uljahn: a team-building event

tobk: Good. That takes a bit away the pressure for the over-achievers, which probably means more fun for the team.

tobk: Still a pity there's no "real" contest, but just sort of a big advertisement for the new game category, though...

wyenat: That also means anyone in Asia won't win, since it's start at midnight on a weekday

Uljahn: just take a day-off and break your sleeping schedule a bit

wyenat: Same for Americas I guess, as I don't think many people will bother player a thursday's morning

darkhorse64: You have 10 days to play it casually

Uljahn: but then there is no difference with existing escape rooms

TheBlueBias: You have 10 days too? :smirk:

Uljahn: 2 hours are more than enough

Carnage2: d

Carnage2: ME

Carnage2: comme

Carnage2: COAS

Carnage2: please

Carnage2: SOON

Carnage2: COMME

Carnage2: COAS

Carnage2: :rage:

Carnage2: :hand_splayed_tone4:

Carnage2: ASDFKLéà

Carnage2: RTZUIUZT

Carnage2: RER

Carnage2: PLEASE COMME ME COAS TO CHILDREN

Uljahn: pls stop spamming

Default avatar.png goobieboy: do people actually get job offers from this site?

Default avatar.png hacker14789: i noob in cooding

martinpapa69: no, goobieboy

Uljahn: goobieboy: CG is used as a screening platform by hiring companies https://www.codingame.com/work/

Thorcode: Uljahn could you show me your 4th testcase in mars lander 2?

KyawMyotun: Fuck You

KyawMyotun: :unamused:\

Uljahn: watch your language or ban

Carnage2: you

Default avatar.png ADC_PhamTrump: hi, i am beginner, and i wanna found a guy can teach me

Thorcode: hi

Thorcode: ADC_PhamTrump you can learn by solving problem here and if you stuck you could just ask on world chat for help

Carnage2: :pensive:

Thorcode: how long is the command ban effect ?

Carnage2: now

Thorcode: ?

Thorcode: idk I will continue to try to solve mars lander 2

Thorcode: is there any document hint for this puzzle?

Uljahn: External resources: PID controller, Dead reckoning etc.

Thorcode: how to control horizontal speed

Thorcode: I got 56

Thorcode: and can reduce it

Thorcode: can't

Default avatar.png herh: adjusting thrust accordingly

Uljahn: tilt the lander in the opposite direction and use thrust

Thorcode: I hate the horizontal speed

Uljahn: you need some basic trigonometry i guess

Thorcode: yep

Thorcode: I don't even know what is trigonometry

Uljahn: then learn it or skip the puzzle

Thorcode: ok

Thorcode: I will skip that puzzle

Thorcode: thanks Uljahn

mrmnrd: trigonometry is part of math handling relationships between angles and measures in a triangle (cos, sin, tan...)

Thorcode: I know but I just in grade 8

Thorcode: so understand that is not easy

Thorcode: I have just seen some basic of it and my mind almost boom

mrmnrd: i do :) it's matter to learn, you'll see it's not so complicated

Thorcode: I will skip that puzzle

Carnage2: wy

Thorcode: that puzzle is too complicate for me

Uljahn: not the best puzzle to learn trig, i suppose Mad Pod Racing is a bit better or something like CodeBusters

Thorcode: how codebuster help me learn trig

Thorcode: it just collecting ghost

raizbro: hi

raizbro: any Qustein

raizbro: guys

raizbro: If you see thorcode dotn say my secret here I tell Its : its a apple code from englis

raizbro: guys any secret

Uljahn: raizbro: no spam here, it's a warning

raizbro: no

Uljahn: guess it's enough, we talk about coding here

Default avatar.png kite1002: anyone can help with regex? I try to match 'A B C' from ( A B C ) with \( ([^ ]+(?= ) ?)+ \) but it only matches last word not all of them

Default avatar.png kite1002: \( ([^ ]+(?= ) ?)+ \)

Default avatar.png kite1002: using par space as boundary on each side so I try to use lookahead to not consume last space in the list of words

Default avatar.png kite1002: nvm I just needed to put another parenthesis around the whole thing since I got last match instead of all the matches at once

NotGoodatall: an someone join my team for the event.

KalamariKing: why are there *so many* new folk today

KalamariKing: NotGoodatall you could always ask family or friends, you don't need much coding experience to partake this time

NotGoodatall: I'm the only one that knows coding.

Carnage2: https://open.spotify.com/track/2Q3eTX...

JRFerguson: will this be similar to the usual contests or much different ?

Astrobytes: Completely different.

JRFerguson: why...

JRFerguson: not competitive bot programming ?

Astrobytes: Not bot programming, no XP, no CP, doesn't affect leaderboard

Uljahn: will be similar to https://escape.codingame.com/games

JRFerguson: dang

Carnage2: Hey a have been kick mani s times now a going to kick you

Carnage2: k

Uljahn: JRFerguson: such is life for 1.64%

Carnage2: Caos

Carnage2: soon

Carnage2: Comme

Carnage2: Caos

AntiSquid: where the crickets at?

TheBlueBias: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/dolbears-law

Default avatar.png RReese: :innocent:

NotGoodatall: I just did my math test

derjack: that cover is so copyritghted

ProCoder03: is someone doing fall challenge today ??

eulerscheZahl: what's a fall challenge?

b0n5a1: a bungee jump...

b0n5a1: o/

eggeggwe: I am ready for fall challenge!!

chungangli: @altugtatlisu

AntonCosmin: how many team members should be in a team?

Default avatar.png gjjkdfcjnsjfn: I am doing the challenge but it starts during PE so I might have to wait an hour or 2

BrunoFelthes: today is a sad day :pensive:

eulerscheZahl: https://towardsdatascience.com/12-active-ai-game-competitions-ongoing-upcoming-6d97f3c3f920

chose carefully

BrunoFelthes: any recommendations eulerscheZahl?

eulerscheZahl: i played yare. was fun but their next contest might take 4 months or so to start

eulerscheZahl: gocoder is probably the next that I consider looking into

ProCoder03: gocoder is nice..

eulerscheZahl: LuxAI is running right now. Game looks nice, I just don't like those long running contests

ProCoder03: except for the fact, it needs reinforcement learning or machine learning :disappointed:

eulerscheZahl: it does not. you can play it however you want to

eulerscheZahl: the organizers are interested in ML. but they don't enforce it. And I don't think that a ML approach will win the contest

eulerscheZahl: that is: no neural network if you consider MCTS and alike as ML too, then it has high chances

ProCoder03: ohh... you mean I could go with a typical if-else decision tree ??

eulerscheZahl: of course

ProCoder03: Well, then got 4 months to prepare an all case decision tree for it

eulerscheZahl: or you step up your gameplay and simulate it properly ;)

ProCoder03: how will Russian AI Cup be ??

eulerscheZahl: they have complex games. let me find a few videos of previous contests

ProCoder03: I could, but I am poor at writing simulators for now :disappointed:

eulerscheZahl: RAIC 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfImU0kAFI0

eulerscheZahl: you can still watch 2020 replays here: https://russianaicup.ru/

eulerscheZahl: 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p73XwFCbkA

eulerscheZahl: in 2017 they had a starcraft-like strategy game with fog of war and different terrains that make some units stronger and others weaker

eulerscheZahl: ground and air units

ProCoder03: that was nice :smile:

ProCoder03: thanks

eulerscheZahl: and if you want a free tshirt, you can usually get it in 1-2 afternoons

Astrobytes: and receive it sometime this decade

ProCoder03: is it ongoing ??

eulerscheZahl: 360 tshirts, 60 hoodies to win. just be patient as delivery takes a year :D

ProCoder03: lol

eulerscheZahl: RAIC has ended in January. Next contest starts in February 2022

eulerscheZahl: takes ages but they ship it in the end. I've never not received it so far (still waiting for 2021)

ProCoder03: February 2022 , well it will be a pretty tight month for you, bomberland, yare and RAIC

eulerscheZahl: not sure if i can handle all of it :(

eulerscheZahl: but bomberland starts in december

eulerscheZahl: yare will also launch the new game earlier. just a contest around february

eulerscheZahl: and RAIC: if it starts in February, it will end in March

eulerscheZahl: maybe even April

ProCoder03: yeah, I misinterpreted the announcement for bomberland

ProCoder03: for yare, any ideas when the new ones will come ??

eulerscheZahl: and I only want the hoodie, so not going all-in at RAIC

eulerscheZahl: i don't know regarding yare

ProCoder03: well mostly everyone participates for swags :joy:

eulerscheZahl: if there are multiple interesting contests going on, it helps to decide

eulerscheZahl: wouldn't have taken 3 days off for Huawei without the prizes

Marchete: 1st at LuxAI is called Toad Brigade :spy:

Marchete: coincidence? I don't think so!

eulerscheZahl: i wish i could claim authorship over that bot

eulerscheZahl: $4000 for the winner, not bad

ProCoder03: atlast they updated languages with puzzles completed

ProCoder03: is the certification valid humph ??

ProCoder03: I mean is it accepted by companies

eulerscheZahl: no idea, I didn't even bother doing their tests

ProCoder03: I tried C# and got better than 99% professionals :thinking:

eulerscheZahl: maybe they consider you as better than me because I didn't take the test?

eulerscheZahl: i've seen so many >99%, that's the only explanation I have

Default avatar.png 0zero0: hello everyone

dbdr: are you guys doing the contest>

dbdr: ?

ProCoder03: obviously I just started C# an year ago

eulerscheZahl: in 4 mins i will log out and don't return for the next 7 days

ProCoder03: dbdr I am just attempting

Default avatar.png 0zero0: yes

Default avatar.png tomie24: yes, can't wait

dbdr: boycotting eulerscheZahl?

Default avatar.png 0zero0: oh no

eulerscheZahl: maybe. and not moderating the chat

eulerscheZahl: so do some other mods

ProCoder03: we have an attendee of 12k which was 5k less than previous fall challenge

eulerscheZahl: we are an inclusive community now, everyone can spam

dbdr: I don't even have a team

eulerscheZahl: you can play solo

dbdr: ok

eulerscheZahl: registered players != participants

eulerscheZahl: the last contest had similar registration count

ProCoder03: atleast 80%

dbdr: also going on a trip tomorrow at 3:30 am, so not sure how much time I'll have. and how much time is needed

ProCoder03: it says 2 hrs

ProCoder03: probably 1 hr

eulerscheZahl: i predict 40min for the first to finish

eulerscheZahl: but i have no idea

Astrobytes: Not doing it, not moderating.

Nikgame: glhf everyone

Default avatar.png tomie24: I am going solo as well

Default avatar.png tomie24: gl

eulerscheZahl: only saw the roman numerals on the candles

Mundgus: glhf :)

eulerscheZahl: in the contest artwork

eggeggwe: last 30 seconds!!!

eulerscheZahl: anyways, see you next week :wage:

eulerscheZahl: :wave:

ProCoder03: :wave:

Elvis_Depresley: gl hf

eggeggwe: glhf

ProCoder03: hf is the main part for being in CG

EveryOS: Real smooth xD I was expecting it to start when the countdown reached 0

Nikgame: 502 Bad gateway Lets gooo

Default avatar.png tomie24: I refreshed the page and now don't see anything

ProCoder03: eulerscheZahl didn't you log out yet ??

EveryOS: Sae=me

Fryzzing: Nice challenge guys!

yesworld.dev: This page will be updated once the organizer has started the event.

EveryOS: *Same

Default avatar.png smacker01: same

eggeggwe: i think i finish the challenge(?

yesworld.dev: Same )

paradise1987: hello helloooo

Default avatar.png maddenvvs: Good luck to all!

[CG]Thibaud: We'll open the mission soon, time for people to coordinate with their team.

Default avatar.png tomie24: I am my team :D

wackadoodle: 1 man teams ftw

Beretta_Vexee: One wo/man army !

Default avatar.png Not_Mee: 1 army man

Default avatar.png tomie24: I guess most teams will be of size 1

ProCoder03: lot of one man armies, Ig

eggeggwe: my team size is 5, but 4 of mine are sleeping though

KVNMDS: Hello I am with Lucas

ProCoder03: eggeggwe :joy:

EveryOS: xD

ProCoder03: some are now only registering :frowning:

Toby75: did the organizer fall asleep?

EveryOS: Perhaps

Essenti: maybe :D

eggeggwe: maybe

C_Minor: I got 504 error

dbdr: they said they wait a few minutes for teams to coordinate

Beretta_Vexee: Alors on joue ! #AoE

Zardosh: they said on the help page that they'd wait 15 mins for all teams to be ready

Essenti: can i start tomorrow if my team cant today?

Mahin1729: Can I join the event anytime in the next 7 days?

schachmatt: wait did they change it to allow 1 player teams?

schachmatt: (been out of the loop for a while)

ProCoder03: yeah sure, you don't need to start now

Essenti: cool, thanks

ProCoder03: you can start anytime in next 7 days

Default avatar.png tomie24: yes but you don't have a chance for top 5 and win a t-shirt then

Default avatar.png ge_pet: do we qualify for something else later?or it is just this?

Essenti: oh no :O i ven diddnt knew that i can win something, my prize is a fun

Default avatar.png tomie24: well mine too since I doubt I will be anywhere close to top 5

Zardosh: top 5 is probably gonna be reserved to 6 plr teams

Default avatar.png 1612584: when the game is starting :)

dbdr: soon

Nikgame: it feels like waiting for a train in germany

eggeggwe: maybe soon

Nikgame: you think it starts at 6 but will be 7 lol

eggeggwe: lol

[CG]Thibaud: just a few minutes

ProCoder03: lol

Default avatar.png Ilkin.H: lol

vklidu: lol

S3v3vn: lol

ProCoder03: prob at 4:15 UTC

S3v3vn: galik hadA wa7ed

[CG]Thibaud: gogogo

EveryOS: Are you able to add more team members after starting?

eggeggwe: gooooooooo

[CG]Thibaud: yes

EveryOS: Thanks

Nikgame: 502

[K]Gabor: frozen

Nikgame: F

Default avatar.png razorbeard: hey im alone, does anyone need an additionnal mate ? :)

ProCoder03: too much lagging for me :frowning:

yesworld.dev: 502 (

eggeggwe: 500(

[CG]Thibaud: It should work now, Refreshing the page may help

bitwiseio: how long this event goes ?

AlexHL: Approximately 2h, depending on the time spent cracking the different codes.

bitwiseio: i mean, can i solve this tomorrow too?

AlexHL: yes

bitwiseio: ah nice, ty for the information

eggeggwe: can someone tell me hoe to stop the timer?

bitwiseio: :joy:

eggeggwe: I start with a accident QQ

bitwiseio: i think the timer is not stopable

eggeggwe: so it will start when the challenge start?

eggeggwe: I hope that i won't made my team lose(

bitwiseio: i can see the start button, did u pressed it ?

bitwiseio: otherwise try strg+f5

eggeggwe: yeah(

bitwiseio: hm, then u started it i think, maybe contact your team that they help u fast ^^

eggeggwe: they said they are sleeping now www

Nikgame: well our letters input is away, although we still need it

bitwiseio: thats bad, sorry for u :/

bitwiseio: @eggeggwe

eggeggwe: QQ

eggeggwe: thank you for halping me

bitwiseio: i tried, im new at this challange too ^^

eggeggwe: im too,nice to meet you

bitwiseio: maybe someone other can help u more

Nikgame: gl the wall is hard

bitwiseio: i tested this mode before, maybe its possible to silve this puzzle multiple times to get some time back

eggeggwe: maybe,hope tjat helpful

Default avatar.png NofaesG: hello

Waffle3z: not all languages are supported for coding escape, rip

jacek: no klingon?

Default avatar.png mitch1414: hi

AlexHL: hi

Default avatar.png Destiny_Code: hi

Default avatar.png Destiny_Code: u

Default avatar.png Tian113:

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Default avatar.png Tian113: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/20390226f7d1f45fec93f33e53d774c7b99f3a6

chungangli: Hello Cyranoid :)

Zardosh: cant execute code

Zardosh: is it just me?

Default avatar.png razorbeard: @Nikgame im just facing it im crying

eggeggwe: no more 502QAQ

Default avatar.png razorbeard: same error 5xx

[K]Gabor: no, we cant either

Default avatar.png TinieblaOscura: rip event

ProCoder03: yeah, Mine just quit

Nikgame: we did it

Nikgame: no clue how but yeah

ProCoder03: what di you do ??

Nikgame: code execution insnt working for me rn, so im waiting

Zardosh: cant run code aswell

Schneewittchen: japs

Westicles: surprised nobody is streaming it

Nikgame: im in uni so i cant stream rn

ProCoder03: Westicles, its not even smooth

ProCoder03: did you finish that chruch prob ??

alenic: regarding fall challenge it's a nice idea but the system crash continuosly and it is impossible to run the code

Zardosh: would be really bad if some teams are currently being able to run code while others cant

Default avatar.png TinieblaOscura: AMEN

jacek: oO

Nikgame: yeah

Nikgame: we cant execute

Default avatar.png Hysta: can't even get in

ProCoder03: Internal CG regret: running Bot programming would have saved them more bucks and some negative feedback than this event :joy:

eggeggwe: i think a lot od 502s made me almost cry

makerecho: is the challenge supposed to work?

makerecho: we can not execute any code ... it just throws bunch of js errors

_martynas: it brokey

bjy: welp...

ProCoder03: people who don't live in France..

Default avatar.png Hysta: even people living in France...

ProCoder03: lets agree on a pact... lets all come and do this one afterwards

eggeggwe: damn.....my country are far from France(

Default avatar.png Hysta: Can't run

Zardosh: wait are ppl in france able to run code?

makerecho: i tried chrome, firefox, even went for edge XD still same error

makerecho: Network Error [504] Unexpected token < in JSON at position 0

Zardosh: i see a team with a french team

Zardosh: french name

Zardosh: gaining progress

Default avatar.png razorbeard: dont wry im in france i have the same prob

Default avatar.png Hysta: No, I'm from France and I can't run anything. So not everyone from there is able to run code

ProCoder03: nope people who live in france are near to CG infra thus they get much quicker response

ProCoder03: the leading team all are french

ProCoder03: take time to see

makerecho: i am on team with guy in paris and he can't run anything ...

Default avatar.png Hysta: It really depends even from France

ProCoder03: these guys are from lyon

Default avatar.png Hysta: Well they're lucky

ProCoder03: *most of these

Zardosh: yea but imo they should just cancel this and reschedule it to some other day

Zardosh: cuz this is really unfair

Zardosh: only a small percentage of teams is able to progress

Default avatar.png razorbeard: yep and the chrono is still running

Default avatar.png Hysta: worst is time running out^^

AlexHL: maybe they should make the Challenge to make the Challenge stable

Default avatar.png razorbeard: haha

Runner87: 502 without press START

AlexHL: :grin:

Runner87: it's a good start

ProCoder03: An error has occurred Refresh your page or please contact support@codingame.com if the error occurs again

ProCoder03: lol

ProCoder03: just got it :disappointed:

B4tiste: I'm at Lyon, and cannot process anything, stop crying azbout your location

Zardosh: there are teams progressing and they are mostly french, even if you aren't able to run code, some teams are

Zardosh: and you should be complaining aswell

Default avatar.png razorbeard: seems to work try again guys

Default avatar.png landyns.: hi

sikr_: lol

ProCoder03: B4tiste just check out the top 10, they all are mostly french

Default avatar.png razorbeard: ah it was just workign for a second :d

Westicles: where do you see the top10?

DomiKo: https://www.codingame.com/contests/escape/fall-challenge-2021

ProCoder03: https://www.codingame.com/contests/escape/fall-challenge-2021

ProCoder03: CoC works fine

Runner87: default START is a solo player ?

ProCoder03: yes

Zardosh: even if they fix it now, one of the teams is about to win

Zardosh: they should redo the entire event some other day

[CG]Thibaud: we're looking into the issue

5atchm1n: servser are KO

jacek: Oo

Westicles: I guess you can't see the leaderboard unless you start?

SmokingJoe: funny contest indeed, you cant do anything

Zardosh: i was able to run code once

Zardosh: but thats it

Westicles: oh, you can see leaderboard but not progression

_martynas: The 2nd team just completed one task

_martynas: Puzzles look good for Coding Escape but this event doesn't fit the Fall/Spring challenge vibes... Unable to participate temporarily wouldn't be a bad thing in bot programming contests...

vklidu: Tak to se vám moc nepovedlo pánové!

ProCoder03: the leading team has 3 tasks left

EveryOS: Yea. But since this is timed, it is very bad. How did the leading team overcome the 502s?

jacek: they bribed CG

EveryOS: xD

ProCoder03: lol

WolfDarrigan: They have an ethernet cable patched directly into the servers ;)

ProCoder03: those were french team

Westicles: I bet it is dbdr, he'll win for sure

ProCoder03: nope dbdr is not on there team

Default avatar.png razorbeard: guys try again

Default avatar.png razorbeard: it seems to work

ProCoder03: unlessing he is using another acc

jacek: its hammertime

Westicles: no hammers this week. work stoppage

ProCoder03: I lost interest, its boring

ProCoder03: euler's idea jacek no mod for this week

EveryOS: I'm on a 2 person team, and started very confused, but we've managed to complete 2 tasks. But I've managed to figure out one puzzle, while my teammate solved the other. I'm amazed that some teams have 15 puzzles solved. We've only done 1/8th of that (and thanks to the 502s, we are taking a break)

ProCoder03: razorbeard not for still bad gateway

ProCoder03: reminds me of microsoft build this year :joy:

Default avatar.png razorbeard: damn

Default avatar.png razorbeard: im out also, what a pity :(

Westicles: 3 winners

makerecho: lol. 3 teams already done and some can't even load the thing :/

jacek: is it over for them?

ProCoder03: 4 now

Westicles: the 0 hints guys can't be beaten

jacek: oh my

ProCoder03: I will never play escape humph

ProCoder03: gn and bye....

Wontonimo: gn and bye

Wontonimo: :wave: ProCoder03

ProCoder03: :wave: Wontonimo

ProCoder03: see you tmrw

Wontonimo: the nice thing about classic multis is that when the servers are overloaded it only means that arena battles are a bit slower to finish. You can still code and play

jacek: heres :taco: for ya

IgnacioGb: Hi guys, In the Outum Fall challenge how can I add members to my team if i have already started the challenge?

Runner87: if I start a solo player game then can I start a team session ?

magmasa: cringe contest when position in leaderboard is dependent website not working

Westicles: it is more fun anyhow if you don't rush through it

magmasa: then dont make it competitive

magmasa: and its fie

magmasa: fine, servers wont crash

jacek: :tada:

Default avatar.png stefan-gg: whi is there an overtime ?

Default avatar.png stefan-gg: why*

Zardosh: i hope they do something about the downtime

Westicles: I would love to see #fr auto-translated and added to #world. Some great discussions over there

Wontonimo: autotranslate works wonders

Wontonimo: and my very poor French comprehension

jacek: deepL eh

Wontonimo: well, since noone seems to be discussing multis or puzzles I'm gonna log off and check in maybe tomorrow

Wontonimo: cy

selalmaz: sa beyler

jacek: welp no one to troll to. obai

jacek: bye Automaton2000

Automaton2000: what's the best way is to do a ton of ranks

Schneewittchen: Can one go one into the next room after 2 hours?

Schneewittchen: go on*

Schneewittchen: lül

Default avatar.png VRMR: Hi all I got a challenge today where I had to sort an array of characters of * - + with preference order * > - > + input= ['*-', '-*', '+*', '--']; output = ['*-', '-*', '--', '+*' ] any help would be appreciated

Default avatar.png _.Martin_.: yo

Default avatar.png _.Martin_.: i need help

Nanosplitter: _.Martin_. just put your question in here and if someone has an answer they will answer

Westicles: Something change recently with the API?

Default avatar.png JBM: all the time

Default avatar.png JBM: that's Agile for you

Astrobytes: login endpoint changed from CodinGamer/loginSiteV2 to CodinGamer/loginSite

Default avatar.png JBM: barely signifncant

Astrobytes: Just grab session cookie Not sure if anything else changed

Default avatar.png _.Martin_.: how do i beat the 2nd boss

Astrobytes: Report him to the 3rd boss

Westicles: userId = r.json()['codinGamer']['userId'] KeyError: 'codinGamer'

Westicles: seems to have broken the NS script

Default avatar.png _.Martin_.: huh

Astrobytes: Westicles: Discord I'm afraid but might be useful info here https://discord.com/channels/466965651135922206/466965651135922208/902908142982168607

AntiSquid: oh SNU is on the leaderboard

Westicles: Astrobytes, thanks

Astrobytes: Westicles: np man

Noyotens: what is way to display a sequence of such corners, and of translating them into UP/DOWN outputs in the fall challenge

AntiSquid: are you asking for solution during the contest ? @_@

AntiSquid: Automaton2000 take care of him

Automaton2000: how can i start tomorrow if my team cant today?

Default avatar.png _.Martin_.: i need help with the 2nd boss

Noyotens: AntiSquid what if i didnt complete before 2 hours

Default avatar.png Daaaaaan: I died :D

Default avatar.png Daaaaaan: Why this is so hard

Default avatar.png Daaaaaan: ahahaha

Stilgart: Automaton2000: team up with AutomatonNN

Automaton2000: they don't have to track it yourself

Stilgart: Automaton2000: I can also lend you CGActivity_Bot if you need (but beware, it's a angry turtle)

Automaton2000: it's not really my kind of game

Default avatar.png oki098: Is rust a good language to learn for this

Default avatar.png oki098: ?

Default avatar.png oki098: c++ is terrible for competitive programming

Default avatar.png oki098: takes more time to write things down so

elio27: bon je suis 7/8 y'a un type qui a leak la réponse dans le chat mais j'étais trop occupé à me casser la tête à comprendre

elio27: sorry wrong chat

Dustyy: What???!!!!

Cukinoden: can someone explain to me what the heck is going on in the glass

Cukinoden: the clans and castle what was that !!

ninnghazad: i kinda flailed at the fall thing today. =/ but still was fun. did stupid things, like clicking the hints just to see what happens. costs time is what happens. or pay attention to my annoying kid, which did nothing for my score!! think im gonna do the winter thingy too. was kinda different from what i expected - i thought it'd be like just coding and not so... visual. nice change of pace.

Zardosh: the contest was really cool but the downtime in the middle of everything was unfortunate

ninnghazad: i came late, just had some weird short disconnects but no real wait inbetween.

MadKnight: wait, is yellow on clan flags called Orange ?

ninnghazad: ye, theres no yellow i think

Default avatar.png Triv: hi

MadKnight: why can't i find clan flag for a description ?

ninnghazad: cause you describe wrong probly

MadKnight: did u find the half green flag name?

ninnghazad: ye i found all the flags i searched for. remember symbols can be invisible but still have a type.

MadKnight: oh now that's a surprise

MadKnight: but i still can't find the middle flag

ninnghazad: oh, the center flag, the last one is special - theres a note about somewhere in the room.

Default avatar.png c0d34: hjghjfghj

Scarfield: hey MadKnight have you seen that csb changed name to "Mad Pod Racing"?

Default avatar.png c0d34: does anyone know how to increase the amount of hits you need to take down an alien?

MadKnight: yes Scarfield i did

MadKnight: ninnghazad i still can't find the green one

ninnghazad: i just searched for one corner i knew and checked the other corners of these few manually. was faster than writing like 16 conditions.

ninnghazad: there were only like 4 that came with the corner i searched for. so it was obvious which one was the good one

MadKnight: i count the number of green corners and the number of white corners with 4 blue rectangles

MadKnight: and finds something when i remove the condition for the symbols

ninnghazad: so print those you find and look if there are any that match the other 3 corners.

MadKnight: i dunno but when i removed the condition for 4 symbols i passed it

MadKnight: what's the yellow one's symbol called?

ninnghazad: i think i had different colors and flags

MadKnight: it's like a spike thingy

ninnghazad: probably the lily

ninnghazad: like a spearhead with two side thingies and a point middle thingy

MadKnight: well it can't find it again

ninnghazad: so you have 4 and missing only center flag?

ninnghazad: try searching for 4 background colors only then - you probably end up with like 2 or 3 that fit and you can guess from there.

Noyotens: i spent two hours looking for half green flag just cause i used SymbolColor instead of Color

Noyotens: :frowning2:

MadKnight: lol rip

MadKnight: well mine turned out to only have 3 symbols instead of 4

MadKnight: and they were circles

ninnghazad: aw man... i clicked that first manual tombstone puzzle thing like 30 times from the beginning because it just didn't get how it worked.

MadKnight: no wait, rectangles, but still 3

ninnghazad: does codegolf count whitespace?

MadKnight: what are there clan locations for?

ninnghazad: that comes soon

Westicles: MK, good to see you

Westicles: They renamed CSB in honor of you

MadKnight: oh i also needed to print the left side ones

Noyotens: i found the middle shield what should i do

MadKnight: why did i come back now everyone is gonna mention that to me

Default avatar.png ChaosConstant2828: g

Westicles: yes, everyone will for sure. over and over

MadKnight: Automaton2000 unrename it

Automaton2000: i've never done a clash

ninnghazad: it's kinda hectic

ninnghazad: a bit like crunchtime, but you don't get paid.

MadKnight: having so much fun looking for a path for my castles on this huge map

MadKnight: are u having fun, Automaton2000 ?

Automaton2000: i think there's a fix for that

ninnghazad: glasses. put em on.

MadKnight: next one looks fun but let's take a break

Noyotens: if you take a break and close the page is the timer keep going?

MadKnight: probably

MadKnight: Westicles did u complete the game ?

Thorcode: what the time know in Europe?

Thorcode: now

MadKnight: okay google

Noyotens: 1:45 AM

Thorcode: thanks

Noyotens: np

Thorcode: that why my friend is not here

ninnghazad: it's the perfect time to give em a call!

ninnghazad: let em know u care!

Thorcode: I tried

ninnghazad: lol =)

ninnghazad: --friends

Thorcode: I think they are sleeping

Wontonimo: hi friends

Thorcode: hi Wontonimo

Wontonimo: hey Thorcode

Thorcode: ?

Wontonimo: ?

Wontonimo: what?? MadKnight is here?!?

xions: whats up

Wontonimo: hey MadKnight !

MadKnight: nope

Default avatar.png Fabricioo: ?

Wontonimo: long time

MadKnight: me not here

Wontonimo: i've missed chatting

MadKnight: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

MadKnight: did u complete the game Wontonimo ?

Wontonimo: I have not entered fall challenge 2021

Wontonimo: have you started?

MadKnight: yep

MadKnight: it's like single player

Thorcode: In this time I can still invite teammate right?

MadKnight: dunno

MadKnight: i'm playing solo

Wontonimo: are you having fun MK ?

Justin-Truong: I will try to solo that challenge :D

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: guys hello

Wontonimo: good luck Justin-Truong

Wontonimo: hey DustinWestGlow and xions and Fabricioo

Wontonimo: welcome to codingame

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: thanks man that was quite a shoutout

Wontonimo: so loud it made you see red

Wontonimo: btw, whenever someone mentions your name it will appear red for you only

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: yeah i just did 3 clashes im contemplating life Okay, Wontonimo

Wontonimo: no need for "@" or "#", just the name will do. Start typing someones name then press tab t oautocomplete

Wontonimo: yeah, like that

Wontonimo: typing /help will show you some more options

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: /me

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: yeah so /me is contemplating all Greek wisdom after those 3 clashes

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: all Greek philosophy what was Plato thinking who made the pillars of reasoning

Wontonimo: did you find it difficult DustinWestGlow or easy?

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: I know how to use Python and stackoverflow But I don't have experience implementing algorithms by the book and practice recognizing what to use where so I did not finish first. Maybe I can look at it from a better angle than self-study. A lot of people seem to be self taught but maybe I can do better. I have a whole Fall Break to take action toward that though.

Wontonimo: have you tried the puzzles?

Wontonimo: they may be better for you. they are not timed and allow you time to do research

Wontonimo: here is what is generally considered the 2nd puzzle https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/the-descent

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: No, I haven't. I can do the research. I just found the Descent thanks, very much.

Wontonimo: and here is one that I made https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/fax-machine

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: ok

Wontonimo: that is in the "easy" category

Wontonimo: the puzzles take a lot more time than the clashes. Don't keep track of time, just have fun solving parts of it

Wontonimo: what language are you using DustinWestGlow?

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: That is reasonable. so, I'm using Python but I completed a coding course with a few other languages. Thanks so much for your help to a stranger like me.

joniebear: 🐍 language, best language

Wontonimo: oh, i didn't know you were a stranger. ah man, 2nd mistake today

joniebear: Is there a code golf for Fax Machine?

Wontonimo: if you want to practice python specifically and want something a little more gentle than codingame, try this free site https://www.hackinscience.org/exercises/ (then come back)

Wontonimo: there are only 4 code golfs https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/codegolf

MadKnight: well i did, Wontonimo

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: yeah... RGB compression is what Fax Machine looks like.

Wontonimo: but you can submit 3 language entries per golf

Justin-Truong: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3192dfbc-7635-4460-9666-270d38b8a341

Justin-Truong: is this is horizontal

Wontonimo: a horizontal what?

Wontonimo: what's the puzzle you are working on ?

Justin-Truong: how can I remove "" in my list?

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: I don't have a capital s key

Wontonimo: Justin-Truong if you list is ["hi","","there","justin"]

Justin-Truong: yep

Justin-Truong: not that

Justin-Truong: I want to delete all the "" in my list

Wontonimo: you can remove "" like so result = [x of x in stuff if x!=""]

Wontonimo: result = ["hi","there","justin"]

Justin-Truong: thanks

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: so, how come regular expressions were difficult to find internet resources for? I just found out a few things but it's a googling copy paste mess. Are there any resources you can point me to?

Wontonimo: ask me a couple questions and i'll answer as best i can

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: okay

ninnghazad: check out https://regex101.com/

ninnghazad: i like the online thingies for regex to try and check expressions

Wontonimo: +1 nice link

Wontonimo: but, the offer still stands. I'll do my best to answer regex questions

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: why were they taught in coding courses?

Wontonimo: what coding courses?

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: Freecodecamp

Wontonimo: why were regex taught somewhere? i can only imagine it's because REGEX IS FRIKIN POWERFUL

Wontonimo: it is a language upon itself

ninnghazad: ye, but it's like writing brainfuck

Default avatar.png DustinWestGlow: my apologies I must leave for an event I will follow u

Wontonimo: no, it sure isn't. it is pretty straight forward if you don't abuse it

Wontonimo: for example,

Wontonimo: if you want to match the word "sup", you simply use "sup"

Wontonimo: if you want to match "sup" or "soup" you have a few choices

Wontonimo: "(sup|soup)"

Wontonimo: this is an or statement and you can list as many items seperated by | as you like

Wontonimo: another ways is like this "sou?p"

Wontonimo: the "?" means the previous letter is optional

Wontonimo: another is "s(o|ou)p"

Wontonimo: again, the stuff between () is an or list

Justin-Truong: how to change ['hi','there'] to ["hi","there"] ?

Justin-Truong: oops

Wontonimo: no need

Justin-Truong: ?

Justin-Truong: I need that

Justin-Truong: oh

Justin-Truong: I have a way to do that

Justin-Truong: no

Justin-Truong: I need to learn

Justin-Truong: I wish I have a full 2 hours to solve it

Wontonimo: do puzzles instead of clash

Justin-Truong: no I'm trying fall challenge

Justin-Truong: and I can't focus or stop the challenge

MoMaT: ask team for help

MoMaT: or relax, let it go and finish tomorrow

Wontonimo: you better finish it because if you don't all the worst things possible will happen, like you'll have to eat broccoli tomorrow for breakfast.

ninnghazad: mmmm, broccoli...

Wontonimo: and you wan't have clean socks on monday and everyone will point at your shoes

Wontonimo: think of all the bad things that will happen Justin-Truong... you have to finish this challenge

Justin-Truong: I can't stop that challenge and I need to learn online

Justin-Truong: I hate that

Justin-Truong: I wish I would finish that

Wontonimo: i hope you've learnt your lesson grasshopper

Wontonimo: timed challenges are not good for learning. they are only good for assessing

Justin-Truong: yep

Justin-Truong: and my teacher always call me

Justin-Truong: so I can't do the challenge as well

Justin-Truong: :(((((((((((((((((((((

ninnghazad: stop stressing yourself out dude

Wontonimo: no, more stress, max stress, that's how we make diamonds

Justin-Truong: yep

Wontonimo: i'm kidding

ninnghazad: compress all the stress + lubricate with tears = superdiamonds

Justin-Truong: really bro

Wontonimo: you don't want your carbon crushed down to the size of a mellon

Justin-Truong: well I can't solo that fall as well

Justin-Truong: :(

Wontonimo: if the test is a 42Km run in 4 hours, and you *only* make it 25Km... did you fail?

Wontonimo: hell, if I made it 25km in 4 hours that'd be a huge success for me

ninnghazad: lol if i made 25km in a week i'd be proud

Wontonimo: yeah, but according to *someone else* we would have failed the test, so ... there's a message in there somewhere

Wontonimo: i think it's that we are out of shape :D

Wontonimo: lower your standards, that's the secret to happiness (and a life long love of coding)

Justin-Truong: ok

Justin-Truong: thanks guy

Wontonimo: anytime you need me to get up on my soapbox and spit random life advice that will probably not help, I'm here for you

Justin-Truong: I will stop trying that challenge and keep on learning on my school for the test

Justin-Truong: and let my brain relax

MadKnight: so why are u not doing the challenge Wontonimo ?

Justin-Truong: Have you finish that challenge Mad Knight?

Wontonimo: i don't like escape mazes

Default avatar.png dkslslep: 1

Wontonimo: i've done 2 in person and 1 online already. all three experiences were blah

ProCoder03: Morning everyone !!

Wontonimo: it doesn't help that i suck at them

Wontonimo: hey ProCoder03

ProCoder03: hello Wontonimo

Thorcode: sad for you my bro Justin-Truong

ProCoder03: wait are you both same ??

ProCoder03: *aren't

Thorcode: not now

Wontonimo: who both same?

Justin-Truong: yep

Thorcode: know Justin-Truong nick is from my neubour

Thorcode: coussin

Thorcode: my bad grammar

Thorcode: now

ProCoder03: My fall challenge is now running at 9hr and 45 mins :laughing:

Justin-Truong: yep it does pause

Justin-Truong: I think I finishl do it in this afternoon

Justin-Truong: *not

Justin-Truong: doing

Justin-Truong: I got 1hr40 min

Justin-Truong: and the time does not stop

ProCoder03: It was not as fun as that steam house

Justin-Truong: Sherlock is better

Justin-Truong: steam house kinda hard

ProCoder03: That was too easy

ProCoder03: sherlock

Justin-Truong: yep

Thorcode: I got top 1% in steam housse

Thorcode: 2 attempt :D

ProCoder03: not counted :smile:

Justin-Truong: bye I gotta learn

ProCoder03: bye

Thorcode: bye bro

Thorcode: keep learning stupid online :D

Thorcode: school

ProCoder03: you guys still have online schools ??

ProCoder03: lucky

Justin-Truong: yep

Justin-Truong: still online

Justin-Truong: but my teacher always call me

Justin-Truong: so I can't focus on coding

Thorcode: not me

Thorcode: I can still coding while online school

Justin-Truong: lucky for you

Justin-Truong: bye I have an test

Justin-Truong: and that site have a good hack dectection

joniebear: Well, here it goes. My first clash contribution :D

Wontonimo: nice, congrats

Wontonimo: expect your first contribution to have a LOT of feedback

joniebear: Well, it better. The instructions are a bit vague at times :P

untillness: hello

Default avatar.png ___I_am_Loser___: std::cout << "Hello, World\n";

Husoski: fprintf(stderr, "Goodbye, cruel world!\n");

ProCoder03: next == groups.length && (next = 0); what does this do in JS ??

Husoski: That's a fancy if statement, same as: if (next == groups.length) next = 0;

Husoski: The idea is that the right side of && isn't evaluated if the left side is false.

ProCoder03: :man_facepalming:

ProCoder03: why do they overcomplicate things

Thorcode: kinda nice Jonibear

joniebear: :blush: thanks!

Zardosh: does any of u guys know any games similar to coding escape?

Zardosh: does any of u guys know of any games similar to coding escape?

Zardosh: sry double msg

Thorcode: yeah I want to have a game like that too

ProCoder03: do the escapes in escape.codingame.com

Zardosh: its a really fun experience but theres too few rooms that we can access

ProCoder03: yeah

Zardosh: ive done them already

Thorcode: me too

Zardosh: man it'd be cool if they opened up another room as compensation for todays downtime XD

Thorcode: try fall bro

Thorcode: fall challenge

Zardosh: yea ive done it

Thorcode: finished?

Zardosh: but there was a 30+min downtime in the middle of it

Zardosh: yea

Thorcode: all of it

Zardosh: yes

Zardosh: finished 21th

Thorcode: nice

Zardosh: the downtime was unfortunate

Zardosh: as some teams were able to still run code

Zardosh: while others couldnt

Thorcode: you got 21 place?

Zardosh: yea

ProCoder03: I got 1hr downtime

ProCoder03: :sob:

ProCoder03: why me ??

Zardosh: 21st place relative to the start of the event

Zardosh: damn i wrote 21th before

Zardosh: sorry lol

ProCoder03: congrats btw

Thorcode: nice

Zardosh: thx

Thorcode: Itachi in atasuki?

Zardosh: yes

ProCoder03: whose itachi

Thorcode: is a character

ProCoder03: anime ??

Thorcode: yep

Zardosh: yea, its the one on my pfp

ProCoder03: not an anime watcher sorry

Thorcode: Zardosh try an escape with me ?

Zardosh: which one? ive done all of the free ones

ProCoder03: are you finding escape nice guys ??

Thorcode: go on dm bro

Zardosh: you mean the game mode in general?