eulerscheZahl: happy Caturday
jrke: happy Caturday to all codingamers :)
AntiSquid: finished clash path!
eulerscheZahl: #metoo
AntiSquid: just need the contrib challenge done
eulerscheZahl: and that was my last path missing
AntiSquid: either multi or optim
jrke: oh so you were clashing for path
AntiSquid: still deciding on a game
eulerscheZahl: or CoC, also counts
jrke: my one path is left
jrke: weekly puzzle one left
AntiSquid: nah i don't want to be responsible for coc rising in popularity, site has too much coc as it is
eulerscheZahl: 681
jrke: euler how many clash participation do you have?
eulerscheZahl: 114
jrke: just
eulerscheZahl: played long ago when i was new to CG
jrke: mine is 1660 ;)
Xcalibre: oof flex
eulerscheZahl: got bored when i got the first duplicate tasks
jrke: i m also bored fron clashes
jrke: from*
AntiSquid: 543 here, what am i doing with my life? :(
jrke: there is close encounter between euler and royale for first rank
eulerscheZahl: and i got #1 back with these clashes, yeah
feels dirty :(
jrke: :smiley:
jrke: but clashes also gives 5000 cps
AntiSquid: wala went hard on the leaderboard and now stopped?
jrke: is there any update for fall challenge?
eulerscheZahl: no
eulerscheZahl: make your own challenge and pitch it to Thibaud
AntiSquid: i am guessing late november if it happens this year otherwise postponed for january / late february, just have a feeling
jrke: can we do it make our own challenge?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: make a multiplayer with the SDK
eulerscheZahl: and keep it secret, only show it thibaud
jrke: ok
NivethSaran: is there any way to see a list of puzzles that I've solved?
jrke: but for that i need to learn java
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
at the bottom NivethSaran
AntiSquid: what happened to the recurz multi?
eulerscheZahl: and JVM language will do jrke
AntiSquid: so jrke are you intending to make a multi?
NivethSaran: thanks
jrke: i wanna make but first i will learn java
AntiSquid: java isn't hard if you know c++, it's just really ugly
eulerscheZahl: and if you know C#, you are even closer to knowing Java
eulerscheZahl: and you could also use Kotlin, Scala, Clojure or Groovy if you want
jrke: yeah currently im working on pac will work on it for max 2 days then i will start java
AntiSquid: jrke here is a quick java tutorial that will help you adapt quicker:
https://projects.haykranen.nl/java/
jrke: ah! sounds goods.
eulerscheZahl: https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/java/
eulerscheZahl: don't praise AntiSquid's link before you've seen the content of it :D
AntiSquid: nah, he has a good eye
eulerscheZahl: where is my struct? i think i broke him :(
AntiSquid: burnt out?
jrke: Oh euler you made OOC?
eulerscheZahl: i took over when it was almost done. and Illedan made the majority of what was missing
jrke: hmm
eulerscheZahl: for kutulu i helped more than OOC
jrke: is there any split func in c++?
AntiSquid: my ooc rank didn't change much, guess it was stupid hard afterall
jrke: :smiley:
Xcalibre: jrke for splitting strings i use regex
eulerscheZahl: OOC lasted 4 weeks. so you need a better bot for the same ranking
jrke: ya
jrke: dunno what i joined cg in last week of march and that OOC was going to begin just beagn didn't remember so i just registered in contest and just submitted default code and didn't worked on it cause i didn't get the rules that time and few days ago i revisted OOC and in 7 minutes i made first league and top 100 in wood 1
jrke: you can say this is my improvement
AntiSquid: ya that's good start if you don't stop there, i was about to quit in wood :p
jrke: currently im still in wood 1 cause i didn't worked on it after that ;)
eulerscheZahl: and now you have to write a multiplayer
eulerscheZahl: just use previous contests as orientation for complexity
jrke: ya im thinking
eulerscheZahl: a board game probably won't be accepted
eulerscheZahl: i mean a simple one like othello
jrke: oh
jrke: but before that i have to make lost child ep 2
jrke: puzzle
eulerscheZahl: nah you don't
jrke: no my idea is ready im working on its sol.
eulerscheZahl: and the idea is?
SilverShade: hi
jrke: Cube solving
spnn: hi
eulerscheZahl: so just a BFS in 3D?
jrke: it will be something like you have been given a solvable condition of cube and you have to output no.of turns required to solve it
jrke: its simple for you guys
eulerscheZahl: but this time it's in a shopping mall. and the mom is called out to pick up her child, while the child is just waiting there
jrke: not for me ;)
jrke: nope not in shopping mall story that im thinking is-
eulerscheZahl: hm, solve a cube? how do you solve it?
like a rubiks cube?
jrke: yeah 3*3 rubiks cube
jrke: i kept only 12 moves
eulerscheZahl: non trivial
eulerscheZahl: state count explodes
eulerscheZahl: and i get easily confused with 3D rotations there, not trivial to code
jrke: yeah thats why its solution is taking time
jrke: in real life my record is 53 seconds for solving 3*3 cube.
jrke: in Code it could be in 53 ms ;)
eulerscheZahl: and then only a few players will try to solve your puzzle
eulerscheZahl: a contest has 2k+ players
eulerscheZahl: and CG sends you a canvas with the contest artwork
jrke: its not contest its just puzzle the lost child ep2
eulerscheZahl: i know
eulerscheZahl: but your java multiplayer game...
eulerscheZahl: i tell you to shift your priorities
jrke: ok
jrke: but how to upload multi on cg
jrke: or refree
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/community
eulerscheZahl: create button at the top right
eulerscheZahl: then select multiplayer game
eulerscheZahl: and set the state to private (it's public by default)
AntiSquid: multiplayer game discussion thread for unlocking the path https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/multiplayer-game-ideas-general-discussion/185643 if anyone is interested
jrke: there is an upload option what i have to upload there
AntiSquid: a game zip like the one you get from github when you download other multis for CG
eulerscheZahl: a zip file
jrke: what does that zip file consist of?
eulerscheZahl: https://github.com/CodinGame/game-skeleton
you start with this
AntiSquid: which is really convinient since struct done a lot of improvements / additions and you can for example take Yinsh and modify it :p
eulerscheZahl: build and run it offline, it will create a local website
eulerscheZahl: yeah, look at other games for ideas how to code stuff
AntiSquid: specifically look at the viewer features he added
jrke: how to build it?
jrke: i don't know anything
eulerscheZahl: not only struct. there are a lot of other contributions
and the official docs: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/25775
eulerscheZahl: afk for breakfast
eulerscheZahl: did i kill the chat by leaving?
jacek: happy Caturday
eulerscheZahl: to you as well
jrke: do i need eclipse for that?
jacek: intellij idea is better
**eulerscheZahl uses intelliJ too
eulerscheZahl: but eclipse will work
eulerscheZahl: the intelliJ community edition is free
jrke: im confused what to do ?
eulerscheZahl: do you have an IDE (eclipse or intelliJ) installed?
jrke: its downloading
jrke: which is better
jrke: intellij or eclipse
eulerscheZahl: for my taste: intelliJ
jrke: k
eulerscheZahl: but eclipse is popular for a reason as well
jrke: im installing both then
eulerscheZahl: both will do the job :D
eulerscheZahl: i have both too
eulerscheZahl: and Netbeans
jrke: netbeans is good by big brother learned java when he was in school in netbeans only
eulerscheZahl: and VS Code, MonoDevelop, Geany
eulerscheZahl: i'm and IDE hoarder :o
eulerscheZahl: texmaker
jrke: my net is taking too much time
eulerscheZahl: not downloaded yet?
jrke: nope
jrke: very slow net
eulerscheZahl: you can download the game skeleton or a multiplayer of your choice in the mean tie
eulerscheZahl: time
jrke: game skeleton zip downloaded
eulerscheZahl: then you wait for the IDE
jrke: k
jrke: .kts which lang is this
eulerscheZahl: what did you install? eclipse or intelliJ?
jrke: intellji
jrke: installing
jrke: eclipse downloading
eulerscheZahl: then open intelliJ
eulerscheZahl: file -> new -> project from existing sources
jrke: its installing yet
eulerscheZahl: and select the .pom file from the game skeleton you just downloaded
jrke: looks its installing something else also in intellji
eulerscheZahl: JDK maybe?
jrke: downloading jbr-x86
jacek: or malware O:
jrke: what it means
jacek: jetbrains runtime
jrke: now extracting
eulerscheZahl: "This option should only be used if your are working on 32-bit OS that doesn't allow running 64-bit JDK."
eulerscheZahl: https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360003446060-Download-and-install-JBR-x86-option-during-install-
eulerscheZahl: let's just wait and see what happens
jrke: its showing config or installation folder
jrke: when opening
jrke: or don't import settings
AntiSquid: was there a downgrade for webchat on CG? the history of the chat is much smaller than it used to be
AntiSquid: i could leave it open and scroll back like 2 hours or so
jrke: ya now its 1 hour
jrke: what to do now i installed intellji
AntiSquid: lol no, now it looks like there's a max message count
eulerscheZahl: isn't it depending on the amount of mesasges?
eulerscheZahl: i mean always has been
eulerscheZahl: eulerscheZahl 08:59AM
then open intelliJ
file -> new -> project from existing sources
jrke: when im opening intellji
jrke: its showing me
jrke: its showing config or installation folder
AntiSquid: there are far fewer messages to scroll back to
jrke: or don't import settings
jrke: two options
AntiSquid: might need to get pidgin :/
eulerscheZahl: you can probably just click ok
AntiSquid: didn't like the interface
jrke: opened intellji
jrke: now
eulerscheZahl: eulerscheZahl 09:08AM
eulerscheZahl 08:59AM
file -> new -> project from existing sources
eulerscheZahl:
eulerscheZahl 09:00AM
and select the .pom file from the game skeleton you just downloaded
eulerscheZahl: you done?
jrke: just a moment it hanged
jrke: my lap is working like a crap
tomatoes: just opening folder should be fine
eulerscheZahl: the Bender optim is working like a crab.
it's featuring Zoidberg
eulerscheZahl: i like bad jokes
AntiSquid: jrke : My mom bought me this new laptop and it gets really hot when the chat is being spamed. Now my leg is starting to hurt because it is getting so hot. Please, if you don't want me to get burned, then dont spam the chat.
eulerscheZahl: i don't consider him spamming
AntiSquid: what
AntiSquid: that's a copy pasta meme
eulerscheZahl: never seen that
AntiSquid: was a reference to his laptop being slow
eulerscheZahl: google tells it's a thing
AntiSquid: ah it's a twitch thing, really old too, people were pasting that to promote spam
eulerscheZahl: still lagging jrke?
jrke: yes
dbdr: which browser are you using AntiSquid?
dbdr: chat should not take much CPU
eulerscheZahl: the Microsoft Internet Exploded
eulerscheZahl: with the Adobe Crash Player plugin
dbdr: euler in interesting form this morning :D
eulerscheZahl: it's Caturday
dbdr: it's deluge day here
eulerscheZahl: as a metaphor or for real?
dbdr: depends how literally you take it ;)
dbdr: it's been raining since yesterday evening. but no drowning yet
eulerscheZahl: so no need to worry about you
dbdr: check back in 40 days
jrke: im reinstalling intellji now
jrke: should i check add launchers to dir
eulerscheZahl: too long ago, i don't remember if there were any specific steps needed
eulerscheZahl: what was your problem with the previous installation?
jrke: :thinking: don't know
eulerscheZahl: was there anything not working?
jrke: after that it was not opening so i unistalled it now reinstalling it
dbdr: seems some people have a huge database of coc code ready for copy-paste :D
dbdr: are you making a contribution jrke?
jrke: trying to make :smiley: but not now
jrke: euler which type of project i have to choose
jrke: maven,java ,java fx or any other
dbdr: CG SDK uses maven
jrke: oh
jrke: its showing me no SDK on top left
eulerscheZahl: can you elaborate on this a little more?
eulerscheZahl: the codingame SDK? or something else missing?
eulerscheZahl: did you import the maven project already?
jrke: no when im clicking on new i choosed maven in that only on top left its showing me no SDK in intellji
eulerscheZahl: screenshot?
jrke: just a min
ItsAFeature: Is it normal that I can delete someone else's comments on contributions?
eulerscheZahl: yes, as soon as you reach lvl29
jrke: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dm-kTutV1S2XYxBMWO2kNaEL6Oxq0NTZ/view?usp=sharing
eulerscheZahl: but don't abuse it ItsAFeature
eulerscheZahl: i told you to create a project from existing sources
ItsAFeature: I won't, I was just wondering.
eulerscheZahl: eulerscheZahl 09:09AM
eulerscheZahl 09:08AM
eulerscheZahl 08:59AM
file -> new -> project from existing sources
jrke: there is no option project from exsiting source
eulerscheZahl: at the top menu?
eulerscheZahl: https://imgur.com/a/QMcDvgH
jrke: yeah
jrke: so i have to open pom
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: as i wrote twice before
eulerscheZahl: let me connect via teamviewer
eulerscheZahl: too bad astro isn't here to laugh about it :(
jrke: its showing error
jrke: Tried to use preview panel provider (JavaFX WebView), but it is unavailable. Reverting to default.
eulerscheZahl: so, does any project open?
jrke: nope error
eulerscheZahl: get your eclipse
tomatoes: :grin:
Xcalibre: is intellij necessary if i have vs code with the java extension pack?
eulerscheZahl: you can build the whole thing from terminal if you want to
eulerscheZahl: nothing is really necessary and can be replaced
dbdr: no IDE is necessary, you can code with notepad and the JDK
eulerscheZahl: notepad? take nano :D
dbdr: or a magnetized needle, if you have a spinning disk
eulerscheZahl: butterflies
Xcalibre: look forward to trying it sometimes
Xcalibre: how do i follow dbdr's method with an ssd?
eulerscheZahl: hex editor
tomatoes: sell and buy hdd
eulerscheZahl: microwave it
dbdr: I watched an interview of Brian Kernighan recently, and he mentioned the early editors
dbdr: what's interesting is that in the early days you didn't have a screen, just a keyboard and a printer :)
eulerscheZahl: wow
dbdr: so the editor had to be powerful to make up for that
dbdr: e.g. move to the Nth word of the line, which most modern editors don't allow you to do easily
eulerscheZahl: on the other hand: who needs that feature nowadays?
eulerscheZahl: ctrl + arrowkey for fast moving is enough for me
eulerscheZahl: and start/end of line
dbdr: there is so much more
dbdr: basically you have a scripting language designed to edit text in a very compact way
dbdr: and composable
dbdr: once you get the basics, there is no turning back
eulerscheZahl: i guess a bit like i3wm. was tough at first but now i miss it everytime i have to use another system
dbdr: yeah
eulerscheZahl: or vim which i never learned :(
dbdr: or terminal vs guis
dbdr: I started vim 1 year ago
dbdr: it's not too late and it's worth it, at least for me
eulerscheZahl: i failed at simple exercises like copy text to or from vim
eulerscheZahl: was frustrated and gave up
dbdr: it's hard at first for sure, and you need a good config
dbdr: like I have it configed to use the system clipboard
dbdr: which makes what you say easy
hphadi: :poop:hi
eulerscheZahl: did we lose jrke?
jrke: gotta go will work on it later
CoderAyoub: Morning all
jacek: dbdr "I started vim 1 year ago" because you dont know how to exit vim
dbdr: lol
eulerscheZahl: :q!
that's all i remember
dbdr: https://github.com/hakluke/how-to-exit-vim
jacek: https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping-one-million-developers-exit-vim/
Marchete: vim, the worst UI ever
eulerscheZahl: and Marchete saw the bender drafts
Marchete: I mean, if people can't even close the program, I don't know how to do it worse
Marchete: well, and tower defense too :D
dbdr: Marchete: it's not for everyone ;)
Marchete: "it's not for everyone" excuses for a bad UI
dbdr: it's like saying terminal is worse than GUI because it's harder for your grandma
dbdr: it's not better or worse, it's for a different audience
Marchete: there are plenty of terminal programs with a good UI
eulerscheZahl: gvim
dbdr: you're missing the point of the analogy
Marchete: there is no analogy that users with MSDOS and linux console have problems with vim (like me)
Marchete: anyways it was just a comment
dbdr: GUI -> Terminal (e.g. shell, nano, etc) -> vim
dbdr: it's one step further
Marchete: GUI->shell->nano->hell->vim
dbdr: that's pretty accurate actually :D
eulerscheZahl: where is ed in that list?
dbdr: I would not call it hell, but obviously it takes time to learn
dbdr: ed is for when you don't have a screen :)
eulerscheZahl: i was always wondering what it's good for
dbdr: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.txt
MSmits: finally won my 1st clash :)
MSmits: little mathy one with concentrations
dbdr: gg MSmits :)
MSmits: thanks
Marchete: here :medal:
dbdr: we should have a clash with only gurus allowed
eulerscheZahl: the greatest WYGIWYG editor :D
dbdr: such a strange sight on CG
tomatoes: Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs
MSmits: i dont want to be slaughtered dbdr :P
MSmits: let me just fight the noobs and win sometimes :)
dbdr: tomatoes: that's a real one actually
dbdr: I don't think most gurus are very good at clash
MSmits: better than me I think
dbdr: while there are lvl 10 people who have done thousands of them
MSmits: you, robo and euler would beat me fast
MSmits: sometimes I cant even solve them in 15 mins, happened once or twice
MSmits: especially with reverse mode. I like it, but sometimes you just get on a wrong track
dbdr: tomatoes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war#Humor
MSmits: btw, i did fight a lot of those lvl 10 ones and it's why i am usually 2nd or 3rd. But it's less of a problem to lose to people you dont know :)
dbdr: I see you're careful with your ego :D
dbdr: did not expect that
MSmits: yeah!
tomatoes: i use vim, but only small configs tweaks
eulerscheZahl: don't make yourself worse than you are MSmits
eulerscheZahl: at pikaptcha i barely ranked higher than you
MSmits: mmh in this case i'm not. It's just a matter of who you compare yourself with,
MSmits: true, but thats not typical, you're usually twice as fast or around that
MSmits: I'm ok at thinking of solutions fast. But it can be frustratingly slow in getting the code typed out. I guess thats why clash might be good fo rme
eulerscheZahl: so up next: smits gets into clashing and learns to code under pressure
MSmits: right :P
eulerscheZahl: also have a look into codeforces if you start to like it
dbdr: tomatoes: any benefit in that case compared to nano?
I think the benefits start to come when you use it often enough to learn things you can't do in other editors
eulerscheZahl: that's 2.5h clashes with harder and original problems
MSmits: nah, i dont think i will ever start to like it more than botting, but I like the fact that it makes me better and i learn some new tricks about python
dbdr: yeah, python is a sweet spot, useful in clash AND for real, small tasks
MSmits: also, what an easy cp rank boost :P
blasterpoard: I gave up... just did my first clash as well
dbdr: lol
MSmits: what happened blasterpoard?
blasterpoard: won reverse in 2 minutes
MSmits: ah ok, that seems more in the realm of expectation :P
MSmits: you giving up not so much
code_maniac: Ahh finally some guru showing interest in COC 🙈😜
MSmits: it's the quest path
code_maniac: guru's 😁
MSmits: clicky xp things, can't resist
blasterpoard: the hardest part was remembering sep="" in pyhton print
dbdr: the challenge is to finish the path with exactly 50 clashes
MSmits: not gonna happen in my case
MSmits: but I'll get there
MSmits: how many do you need to win to finish path?
dbdr: 50
MSmits: play 50 or win 50?
dbdr: ah sorry, play 50
MSmits: i was thinking, jeez that robo
dbdr: and other requirements, like win 3 reverses
MSmits: lol
eulerscheZahl: and 3 wins in a row
MSmits: ah ok
MSmits: thats gonna be a hard one
dbdr: do 100% under 3 minutes twice
dbdr: stuff like that
dbdr: I don't know all of them
MSmits: i got that one
eulerscheZahl: i agree that playing 50 times is the hardest of those requirements
eulerscheZahl: if you know some coding
MSmits: haha not for me
eulerscheZahl: for you too
code_maniac: Solve COC in 3 different languages
MSmits: i won my first after 14 clashes
MSmits: 3 in a row...
Marchete: you are on fire!
MSmits: no thats the task lol
eulerscheZahl: you create a new clash and instantl start it as soon as the first player joins
MSmits: ahh
Marchete: I have 32/50 coc
DomiKo: so sad, that i can't participate in challenge :(
dbdr: hm, thanks Code_maniac, forgot about that one. got python and ruby for sure. probably need one more
Marchete: and I don't think I'll do more
MSmits: is ruby always shorter than python?
dbdr: yeah, that's cheating. should be win with 8 players
Marchete: perl and ruby usually yes
Marchete: perl is like
dbdr: probably not always
Marchete: <>?!_
code_maniac: Just know JS so need to learn basic syntax of other languages to do that 3 language one
Marchete: and you have doom
Insufficient: my suggestion for 3 diff languages is to wait for a one liner clash which is much more easily translatable into another language
eulerscheZahl: and you don't even have to win that one clash
Insufficient: yeah
dbdr: but often I think. python is just more useful outside of clash, so I'm not motivated to learn much ruby
Marchete: I remember a hacker path on the quest map proposal
Marchete: a pity they didn't added it
eulerscheZahl: they will add more paths
dbdr: it will come
MSmits: yeah I think i did a codeacademy course once, on ruby, just to finish their list of free stuff
eulerscheZahl: we made suggestions with to put on the path the other day
eulerscheZahl: what, not with...
eulerscheZahl: according to inoryy:
python > ruby
ruby on rails > django
MSmits: dont know what django is
eulerscheZahl: i only know the python side of the equation
eulerscheZahl: django = python web framework
MSmits: ah ok
eulerscheZahl: my heroku app is in django
MSmits: I see
dbdr: ruby on rails > ruby ;)
eulerscheZahl: :D
MSmits: what makes it "on rails " ?
MSmits: are they safety rails?
eulerscheZahl: also for web dev
eulerscheZahl: i've seen a few references to ruby on rails in the django docs
Nitrogn: hi
NivethSaran: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/13085775b19a1a21db9a47602c77f31e4c43687
jacek: oO
AntiSquid: only 50% NivethSaran
AntiSquid: what are you trying to tell us?
NivethSaran: I am sorry, I shared the link here before the clash started accidentally
bruddah: hey everyone! i am new here and i have a question. can i see the questions that i solve before (the actaul question)
eulerscheZahl: are you talking about clash of code? no, that's the whole point of it
eulerscheZahl: but some players clash a lot and there's a limited pool of tasks to choose from
bruddah: thanks. i am having hard time to solve those questions :(. i thought i could solve those later
eulerscheZahl: http://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
you can search them here
eulerscheZahl: if you remember 1 or 2 words from the statement
bruddah: ahhaa found it thank you!
dbdr: nice UI :+1:
eulerscheZahl: another user gave me some stylesheet :D
eulerscheZahl: damn, Thor goes north now
JBM: the horror
dbdr: is Thor in the quests?
eulerscheZahl: no
DinuBrat: Wow u are 1st)))
dbdr: we are in the alternate reality where gurus clash and euler golfs :D
eulerscheZahl: let's have both at once then :D
https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1308848b91895627ab37a101492c9bf45ea8a7d
eulerscheZahl: private clash, unrated
dbdr: both what?
eulerscheZahl: guru clash + euler clash
eulerscheZahl: start or wait?
dbdr: you're a guru
JBM: damn i'm not guru anymore
dbdr: but I said golf
eulerscheZahl: you may still join if you want
JBM: too bad that would have been quite the experience
dbdr: join in JBM
JBM: errr
dbdr: exguru counts
JBM: got my hands full right now :(
dbdr: ex #1 at clash
JBM: ok, would be ready now but i sppose you started already
eulerscheZahl: yes, shortest
eulerscheZahl: not a fun one though
eulerscheZahl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/7e7e9e31-97a4-48e6-b437-7cda70f17075
dbdr: working code :)
eulerscheZahl: 53 atm
dbdr: 55
dbdr: 53
blasterpoard: 59 :(
dbdr: there is time
wlesavo: 55, hm
dbdr: 52
eulerscheZahl: you just lost dbdr
dbdr: took a gamble that no one will do 51 :)
dbdr: and lost, maybe, fair enough
RoboStac: here, have a 48
eulerscheZahl: 46
dbdr: ah, ruby
RoboStac: :(
dbdr: of course
eulerscheZahl: yes, ruby
dbdr: I don't think 51 is possible in python, but who knows
dbdr: at least in this format
eulerscheZahl: now i want to see your 52 python
dbdr: shared
ad99526: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/130886058b1d939c4f0c303efefd1ffea9c8d12
RoboStac: oh wow didn't know about puts doing newlines for ,
eulerscheZahl: ah, i had the same except for the print statement
eulerscheZahl: me neither, enough time to google
dbdr: yeah, pretty simple task, not much to work with
RoboStac: could have done 41 :(
ad99526: hey whatsup
AmarjitSingh: heyy
ad99526: aur lode
AmarjitSingh: I m from the future
blasterpoard: i keep losing shortest even to random people, because I don't know these languages properly...
dbdr: just read the tips on golfing
dbdr: I don't know the languages either
AmarjitSingh: Is this the first year of covid
RoboStac: I only know ruby from googling during golf the other day
eulerscheZahl: puts [
do you even need that space?
dbdr: did JBM join after it was started? :D
wlesavo: well ill take my not last with 54 and check the dbdr solution =)
eulerscheZahl: i'm wondering the same :D
dbdr: share yours wlesavo
eulerscheZahl: with python i'm down to 53
wlesavo: damn, f strings xD
dbdr: yeah, I had 53 without f'
blasterpoard: I just learned that they exist
eulerscheZahl: and JBM about to beat all of us with bash
dbdr: or perl
dbdr: oh wait, this wasn't fastest? /s
eulerscheZahl: perl, 46 chars
dbdr: gg euler
JBM: short on time
JBM: (I started with ~12' remaining)
eulerscheZahl: my python:
eulerscheZahl: a=input()
s='*'*(len(a)+4)
print(s+'\n* '+a+' *\n'+s)
JBM: pretty sure that thing can be optimised more
dbdr: it always can ;)
eulerscheZahl: except if it can't
wlesavo: reversing a string gave me one char
dbdr: it can as long as you don't know it's impossible
JBM: gimme 2'
eulerscheZahl: i have no idea what this perl does, even knowing the task :D
dbdr: sometimes you just need to modify the language and wait for CG to upgrade
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/130886765eeea5a70680be27cb596cb2c65e02e
last one for me, mode is random
JBM: there was no \n in input, right?
eulerscheZahl: don't know
dbdr: why am I doing this, I should do real clashes :D
JBM: if so i have 42
JBM: confirmed from the contrib page: there's no \n in input and I have 42 in perl
eulerscheZahl: and that's how we lost JBM on the 2nd clash
JBM: hey i can't spend all day clashing
JBM: especially in random mode :p
eulerscheZahl: neither can I. pizza later today :)
JBM: i had pizza yesterday evening and this noon
JBM: i don't want to hear about pizza ever again
JBM: for the next two days
wlesavo: hm, forgot how replace works in python :smiley:
eulerscheZahl: :D
blasterpoard: I didn't understand what did it want from me
dbdr: me neither, too hard for me :D
eulerscheZahl: find the most common word
RoboStac: most common word unless there were multiple with the same frequency
eulerscheZahl: or NOT FOUND if not unique
eulerscheZahl: a little unfair: saw it in pending contributions. so i knew what it was asking for
dbdr: hum, I had that idea but saw exceptions to it
dbdr: probably I saw wrongly
blasterpoard: I was wondering if it wants me to find pronouns or shortest word in some part of the sentence
eulerscheZahl: wasn't 100% sure either anymore. just coded it to see
blasterpoard: "you", "us", "all" was kinda misleading
wlesavo: hm, i thought it was smallest of the repeating words, lol
dbdr: by definition reverse is ambiguous
dbdr: there can be multiple rules that fit the examples
JBM: damn you C
MSmits: there can be multiple rules, that, when applied also fit the validators
MSmits: in that case there is no problem
wlesavo: also 4 test cases for reverse is kinda low
dbdr: sure, but you don't know the validators
JBM: my bug from late night personal coding is that i wrote O_WRONLY, O_CREAT instead of O_WRONLY | O_CREAT
dbdr: fix your compiler
JBM: of course C wouldn't tell my anything about me providing too many arguments to that prototyped function
MSmits: nope, but you dont have to. If all sets of rules that fit the test cases, also fit the validators, you dont need to know which was the intended set
dbdr: but it's never like that
MSmits: probably not
JBM: should've written it in rust
blasterpoard: are the next "achievements" as time-consuming as play 50*CoC?
dbdr: you can always create rule 1 and rule 2, that both fit the testcases, not only 1 first the validators
RoboStac: blasterpoard - no
dbdr: unless validators == testcases :)
RoboStac: once I'd got 50 I had to play 1 more coc to get all of them
MSmits: i played 2 games vs blasterpoard earlier today
RoboStac: and that was only because I'd not done something in the 50
eulerscheZahl: others are top 1k, win 3 in a row and such
MSmits: first time I felt I was super fast with 2 minutes and he did it in 1 min
MSmits: second time he had an awesome short solution i am stealing
eulerscheZahl: and you have to use 3 different languages *spoiler*
blasterpoard: i dont remember those tbh
MSmits: I do :P
RoboStac: are you planning to play enough clashes that stealing solutions is useful? :o
blasterpoard: but I know I played against you
MSmits: RoboStac not really, but I am recording them anyway
MSmits: you never know :)
RoboStac: though I guess stealing ideas is useful
MSmits: its also useful for code golf
MSmits: just the general tricks
blasterpoard: what was that short solution? I don't think my golfing is awesome
MSmits: lemme check
eulerscheZahl: and then we'll find the task again and golf it better
MSmits: want me to paste it here blasterpoard?
MSmits: it's your code
blasterpoard: either here, or PM
blasterpoard: i dont care
MSmits: ok
eulerscheZahl: here
MSmits: n=100/int(input())
l=input().split()
print(sum([int(i) for i in set(l) if int(i)==n*l.count(i)]))
MSmits: counting probabilities
blasterpoard: yes, I remembered
dbdr: not optimal
MSmits: turning it into a set is pretty cool
blasterpoard: it's not ruby
MSmits: dbdr what can be improved?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/734d3b79b09e5e32e164c84a51b329d0e65 this one?
MSmits: yeah
dbdr: I didn't say I knew what could be improved ;)
RoboStac: square brackets for list comprehension aren't needed
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: that's the sort of fancy stuff I see euler do in C# with linq
MSmits: I don't know many of those tricks
MSmits: too bad C# is too wordy for shortest
MSmits: but you can use it on code golf
dbdr: problem with C# is system call is shorter :(
MSmits: what do you mean exactly?
eulerscheZahl: call bash
MSmits: ohh ok
MSmits: you might as well just pick bash then?
eulerscheZahl: my C# are real C# golf solutions. and i perform poorly
dbdr: I did a good one in Thor, d-s-x beat it by 50 chars, probably in 5 minutes
dbdr: no ethics
eulerscheZahl: i blame CG here. if it can be abused, someone will
dbdr: I agree
JBM: he's ready for facebook then?
dbdr: :D
dbdr: I just saw a vid on choosing an thical OS, on this topic :)
dbdr: *ethical
eulerscheZahl: swagcoloredkitteh can talk about this a lot
MSmits: does it give you a fatal error when you try to download torrents?
eulerscheZahl: how he only installs free software
JBM: download? torrents are *shared*
MSmits: sure, downloaded and uploaded :P
MSmits: semantics
dbdr: and many torrents are legal
JBM: spread the love
MSmits: many yes
MSmits: ethics and legality isn't the same thing btw
dbdr: indeed
MSmits: I downloaded a lot of illegal stuff when I was young. Games and such
MSmits: no more though
JBM: noy you only upload it?
MSmits: you mean give it back? :O
dbdr: yeah, just upload it enough to compensate :)
MSmits: I've always found it funny how they equated it to stealing when it's really not the same thing
dbdr: that's ethical btw
dbdr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4
MSmits: i mean, it's only stealing if you could have paid for it. I downloaded a lot more than I could have afforded to buy :P
MSmits: nice video :)
JBM: i thought it was going to be the "you wouldn't DL a car" one
JBM: ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg )
dbdr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg
dbdr: lol
JBM: did you copy my url?
dbdr: nope, was searching it too
JBM: searching is stealing
eulerscheZahl: it crowd, i'll happily watch it twice
dbdr: yes, copying all those unique bits
MSmits: nice
JBM: there's gotta be a best of somewhere
JBM: like the "don't search for google on google"
eulerscheZahl: this, Jen, is the internet
dbdr: yeah, most of it is good. season 2 is a bit weaker IIRC
JBM: oh, that one too :)
MSmits: do you break the internet through infinite recursion when you search google on google?
JBM: the emergency number
dbdr: yes, MSmits. please don't try it
eulerscheZahl: 0118999881999119725 3
MSmits: kk
eulerscheZahl: gtg, see you tomorrow
dbdr: who's singing now?
JBM: have a nice pizza
_Akira_: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+use+C%2B%2B+for+codingames
Apurba: Is python/ruby the best choice for coc?
JBM: sometimes
jiki: https://github.com/richkirl/testlinuxandwindowsbuildpull
jiki: work all platfowrms)
AntiSquid: what's that about ?
Laminator: ruby for shortest
Laminator: for sure. I think python is fine for fastest
jacek: meow
tomatoes: play 50 clashes :cold_sweat:
Gortax: any language with weak types that you're comfortable with is good for fastest imo
code_maniac: JS is fun, python is also pretty good
Laminator: python does not have weak types lol
tomatoes: it has some "tricks"
tomatoes: sum of bool list
Laminator: I'm usually building my list from scratch so I haven't done much with bool lists
tomatoes: just example of implicit conversion
jjhiggz: I love that this encourages you to skip around languages so you start to pick out what you don't like and like about each language
jjhiggz: I learned ruby in bootcamp and was kind of pissed I didn't learn python because thats what all the cool kids know. But now I choose Ruby over python for the short code challenges because I love enumerables
freshskates: i code in c++, kinda new, is python really that much better?
delta_computer: python is a scripting language so it will usally be faster to make a working program with it
darkhorse64: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6354bd44-d820-4802-8d54-0f86fe39da7b
eulerscheZahl: Invalid paste id, perhaps it expired?
**eulerscheZahl slaps darkhorse64 around a bit with a large fishbot
darkhorse64: No violence please. It's not my fault
eulerscheZahl: sorry, I over-reacted
jjhiggz: They both have a ton of jobs, c++ runs faster on your computer than python.
jjhiggz: So they use if for stuff like game engines
eulerscheZahl: and python is great for hacking a few lines, it comes "with batteries included" (that is libraries)
jjhiggz: ^^^
darkhorse64: I'm trying to solve ML1 in Go but I get assignment used as value error. This is a noob error but I do not understand it. My code: thrust = Max(thrust-1,0) in a if/else
eulerscheZahl: you are overthinking it
eulerscheZahl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bdc5fec3-adb9-4b06-852c-d2592fafb425
eulerscheZahl: fail :D
darkhorse64: Want to taste a fishbot ?
**jacek slaps eulerscheZahl around a bit with a large fishbot
eulerscheZahl: for {
fmt.Println("0 3\n0 4")
}
darkhorse64: I know this answer but I want to understand this error
eulerscheZahl: show more code
darkhorse64: Pastebin is broken. I have eaten enough fish
darkhorse64: Usually I find answers with google but here it fails
eulerscheZahl: i'm only good at finding problems, no solutions
AntiSquid: i thought you wrote earlier: "see you tomorrow" ?
RShields: is AutomatonNN still around
AutomatonNN: what is that
Zenoscave: That answers that
RShields: can AutomatonNN answer that
AutomatonNN: everything is a bot
RShields: uh oh
Astrobytes: Stop now. That's perfect right as it is.
Zenoscave: ...
Zenoscave: AutomatonNN is it perfect?
AutomatonNN: go for it
Zenoscave: (I like ruining things)
Astrobytes: It kinda worked
Zenoscave: AutomatonNN, ping eulerscheZahl
AutomatonNN: does anyone know how to get a project in the compete?
inoryy: did someone say NN?
Astrobytes: hahahaha
Zenoscave: just AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is a good idea
Zenoscave: YES
Astrobytes: Automaton2000, fix AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: does your code look like?
AutomatonNN: ZarthaxX i saw it now
Zenoscave: I'm loving this
Astrobytes: ping central
Astrobytes: AutomatonNN who to ping next?
Zenoscave: AutomatonNN, who else can you ping
AutomatonNN: give me a general problem
AutomatonNN: got a few more things to do with the results of a bot that is always there
Astrobytes: hahaha
Astrobytes: Use Automaton2000 as your bot AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: as much as i could tell
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the same code ?
Astrobytes: You failed us AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the time in the code?
Illedan: AutomatonNN does never fail
AutomatonNN: what are you going to do?
Astrobytes: Disconnect you AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: first contest is for me
AntiSquid: better talk to jesus: https://rebot.me/jesus-christ
AntiSquid: the bot
AntiSquid: those bots are more articulate
alisolanki: how to print the pascals triangle in the shortest way possible
itzblinkzy: language?
itzblinkzy: UnRandom are you able to share your code please?
itzblinkzy: or Yes1
itzblinkzy: I'm trying to learn :pensive:
Laminator: pascals triangle tells you the number of combinations given a list and the size of the group
Laminator: so like row 5 of pascals triangle tells you the number for 5 choose 0, 5 choose 1,..., 5 choose 5.
Laminator: there is a formula to calculation combinations
RShields: looking at the triangle, realize that each number is the sum of the two above it. Write that.
sx: **2
pedrosorio: thanks for the invite @andreza.bona
pedrosorio: @Allis is still fun to do clash of code after more than 1500? Don't you see the same problems often?
Allis: @pedrosorio Certainly not as fun as it was in the beginning, but I still get a kick out of it. You're probably right that I should stop, though. :sweat_smile:
rahulsain3000: hi i am new to codeingame
i have a doubt
i just know basics of java so first do i have to learn dsa before starting this site as i dont know any of the algo
abt8601: At your level you can already solve easy puzzles. You can learn DS and algorithms as you move on to medium puzzles.
spnn: hi
