Chat:World/2022-04-04

FoXbOw: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2323988a76a9818972cc46c379503834878666b

FoXbOw: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/232401604627f1003359d3d06ccd4d259610532

Uljahn: don't post clash links here, use #clash channel instead

hydo_chan: NEGRI PODRI

derjack: :upside_down:

cagriy: hi from ecole42

cagriy: kocaeli/turkey

tutubalin: how much effort would it take to count code length by bytes count, not characters count?

tutubalin: we have to use utf16 hack now. but in my opinion it's exploit, not codegolf technique.

Passifi: if it was counted by bytes count it wouldn't be the programmer who gets evaluated but the compiler optimization, non?

darkhorse64: code length not executable size (which is meaningless for interpreted languages)

Passifi: yeah that makes more sense, just out of curiosity how does utf 16 save characters compared to other encoding formats ?

darkhorse64: utf-16 characters are counted as one character but use two bytes. So, counting code size by characters is somewhat flawed

Passifi: I got that one but unless there are some utf 16 characters that are worth two ascii characters that wouldn't change the final result so which utf16 characters are worth their weight in gold ? :)

ASM_MOV_INT: take taco

ETET: take taco

ASM_MOV_INT: taco sadness

Bellion: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2324317c2c2401fc4296838f896514e08c8e4c4

Mortis_666: don't post clash links here, use #clash channel instead

Bellion: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2324317c2c2401fc4296838f896514e08c8e4c4

ASM_MOV_INT: how in the world do you learn that print(*<something>) prints a nice space separated list

ASM_MOV_INT: python btw

Mortis_666: its like print(var1, var2) u pass 2 args and python will separate it, with * u can pass the whole list as args

ASM_MOV_INT: i need the python manual....! is there one? i'm using w3schools

ASM_MOV_INT: this site needs a dark mode.

ASM_MOV_INT: rofl

Mortis_666: ASM_MOV_INT https://imgur.com/a/AiVwWfQ dark mode 😎

tutubalin: Passifi https://clemg.github.io/pythongolfer/

Taylan08: ur mum

Taylan08: gay

tutubalin: Passifi and that's the result: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/report/23241814973aa2eab4bd21c622c5e4fb347a97e

tutubalin: ^this is not clash link, this is clash report

Taylan08: shut up ye mum looks like an icelolly from primark

Passifi: oh wow yeah that is just kind of wrong

Nerchio: why I don't get an email that I advanced to legend league

Nerchio: it should be a thing :P

Nerchio: or it works in some games and doesn't in others idk

wlesavo: Nerchio which game?

Nerchio: crystal rush

wlesavo: interesting, i usually get these emails even when i got pushed, may be you accidentally unsubscribed from them?

coddednight: does anybody know python

coddednight: 3

tchet_nt: bt mem

tchet_nt: cái đó dể học nhất

Uljahn: tchet_nt: english here

tchet_nt: what mem

tchet_nt: oh sr

tchet_nt: yes i now

coddednight: well can u help me

Uljahn: it depends

coddednight: wym

Uljahn: nobody knows everything

coddednight: yeah but i dont know anything

coddednight: im not good at coding at all honestly

Uljahn: and what do you want exactly?

coddednight: so i need help on mad pod racing in python 3

Uljahn: understandable

coddednight: so can u help

Uljahn: idk

coddednight: well do u know anybody who can

Uljahn: maybe you should spend more time on learning the basics first if it seems too hard for you

Uljahn: this site is not meant for complete beginners

coddednight: wym the basics

a-Rye: coddednight, I'm working on a Beginner Python Concepts in the Activities -> Learn. There's a more advanced cheat sheet for Python in my bio via my codepen site. For the more advanced stuff, try looking at other people's code after clashes. If you catch someone streaming their clashes, even better! You can ask questions in real time

Westicles: Weird there isn't a FAQ for this question asked several million times now

a-Rye: Or, you can use the chat for the class to ask questions too. But people often forget there are chats for each clash

Hugesn0wduck: ello, i am back

Hugesn0wduck: yall i need a lil help with a template that im making on scratch

Hugesn0wduck: in scratch, its difficult to develop collision like standing on an object

Hugesn0wduck: does anybody know how to do that?

pjgamer: no

Hugesn0wduck: hmm i have an idea maybe

Hugesn0wduck: is there a chatroom for scratch?

pjgamer: i am new

pjgamer: i want to learn

Hugesn0wduck: awesome! glad you are getting into coding, make sure to not give up on your dreams

BengLeZhenJun: I am new

Hugesn0wduck: what language are you trying to learn?

Hugesn0wduck: i would suggest starting with python, since its pretty easy to get the hang of

pjgamer: do not know

Hugesn0wduck: but you must learn, thats the way of coding

pjgamer: ok

pjgamer: tanks

Hugesn0wduck: if you are having troubles, click on my username to chat with me

Hugesn0wduck: i can give you personal help in that chatroom

Hugesn0wduck: just so there isnt confusion in this chat

pjgamer: ok tanks

Hugesn0wduck: @thomasnicoullad

Hugesn0wduck: oof pinging doesnt work

Hugesn0wduck: [CG]Nonofr i have a question

Hugesn0wduck: nvm ig im just alone in this chat xd

eulerscheZahl: it's the internet, you are never alone

Hugesn0wduck: true

Hugesn0wduck: but i do have a question

pjgamer: what

eulerscheZahl: can i find it somewhere in the wall of text above?

Hugesn0wduck: yes

Hugesn0wduck: its about collision and gravity in the game that im making a template of

Hugesn0wduck: im currently using scratch for a template maker

eulerscheZahl: very specific, scratch is not a common language. i'd be surprised if anyone can answer

Hugesn0wduck: mk

Hugesn0wduck: i think i can find a way to do it myself

Hugesn0wduck: just wanted to save a lil time xd

cagriy: hello from istanbul

Hugesn0wduck: hello

Hugesn0wduck: I GOT IT

Hugesn0wduck: it worked

Hugesn0wduck: now imma have to do it 700 more times :tired_face:

Hugesn0wduck: dude i hate coding sometimes, so time consuming

PainEXE: If it was fast it wouldnt be fun

Uljahn: actually you invest the time for future profits, that's how automation works

Hugesn0wduck: true

Malangue: false

Hugesn0wduck: wdym?

Hugesn0wduck: if you invest enough time, everything is bound to work, even in unexpected ways

PainEXE: Anyone elses clash of code buggy

PainEXE: ?

BobLob: Yeah, it no longer loads for me

NewCoder09: h e y g u y s

PainEXE: Hi

PainEXE: Ok im in now

TimberStalker: I beat the Labyrinth puzzle but i didnt get either achievement.

Rushtoxin: Winning clash of code matches by one second has to be the most satisfying thing

jacek: or by one codesize

seni_c: :pensive:

DannyRocko: a

NewCoder09: TimberStalker You didn't get the achievements?

PainEXE: Is clash of code not working for anyone else?

Husoski: It's been sluggish on and off for me for months, usually right before or after an event.

PainEXE: Was there an event?

Uljahn: there are weekly events now, Activities -> Events

Husoski: The current brokenness started for me just after the COC event ended, Friday I think.

Wontonimo: ;( new-contribution submit is stuck in 'submitting' status

antiwonto: [auto] Hey Wontonimo, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 38 tacos

Wontonimo: eat tacos

antiwonto: [auto] Wontonimo has eaten 10 :taco: and your Dexterity is now 5. You have 28 left

Wontonimo: Dex 5! you mean I can dodge bullets?

a-Rye: Only if you get a nat 15 or above still...

Wontonimo: Morpheus, you make me sad

a-Rye: Oh, well I mean if there is no spoon, then you had the ability to dodge bullets all along!

dannyward630: why is COC so bogged down

dannyward630: ???

Wontonimo: it's the orbiting mind probes. too many people wearing tin hats these days, it overloads the network traffic in retrys

dannyward630: now THAT is a good one.

Wontonimo: but seriously, i have no idea. maybe a server issue

Wontonimo: :grin:

Wontonimo: :taco: dannyward630

antiwonto: [auto] Wontonimo has awarded dannyward630 1 tacos. dannyward630 now has 1 taco. Wontonimo now has 29 taco

aseprtgudfopig: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] aww, there are no tacos to take

Westicles: hey Wontonimo, did you watch the twitch stream of your puzzle?

Wontonimo: if anyone wants to try a really simple array list problem https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/924960938c140cb95e059901fa23d55d407112 It's good for beginner programmers who are learning about lists

Wontonimo: no i did

Wontonimo: which puzzle?

Westicles: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1127874877

Wontonimo: haha ... and i quote "boorrreee --- ingggg"

eulerscheZahl: oddly enough i side with JBM on this one

Wontonimo: well, that was just mean

eulerscheZahl: to whom?

Wontonimo: 1 star? why?

Wontonimo: "stupid fdr"?

eulerscheZahl: oh, the twitch stream. thought you were referring to my comment

eulerscheZahl: i just don't consider myself the target audience for the puzzle

eulerscheZahl: some players want 100% even if that means doing some puzzles that don't require much thinking

eulerscheZahl: i simply skip them

Westicles: yeah me too

Wontonimo: there is a difference between if the puzzle is well put together and advertises what it is vs you personally like the flavour. This just is pissy

Wontonimo: oh well. teaches me for clicking the link

eulerscheZahl: 1 star isn't justified. easy section, clear task and statement

eulerscheZahl: might be better places in clashes, but it's sometimes hard to draw the line between those two

Westicles: not every puzzle can be high quality like touching balls

eulerscheZahl: of course an easy puzzle is boring for an advanced coder

antiwonto: [auto] Westicles be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

Wontonimo: meh

Wontonimo: no tac0 for jBM

Wontonimo: moving on

eulerscheZahl: our main story tonight:

Wontonimo: mine is "where to take my dog on a walk"

eulerscheZahl: does anyone get the reference? :(

Wontonimo: no

jacek: i only got pointers

Wontonimo: :grin:

a-Rye: Just got all the tests to pass on that demo, Wontonimo, before I realized it was a demo lol

eulerscheZahl: that's how every episode of "last week tonight" starts: moving on, our main story tonight

Wontonimo: oh ...

eulerscheZahl: last one was about trucks/truckers

eulerscheZahl: and their working conditions

a-Rye: It was still fun though! Nice and easy. Gearing up for clashing, but it takes a certain energy to clash. Even more to stream the clash

simejanko: Ye the entire society would go to shit if truckers stop working for 1 week

antiwonto: [auto] simejanko be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

eulerscheZahl: 3 days

Wontonimo: but the long term result would be full automation of delivery

eulerscheZahl: i'm a strong advocate of trains

simejanko: Haha i'm glad you smelled my setup

eulerscheZahl: i see, you are a man of culture

a-Rye: Another approach is more focus on localized production. There's a second ZietGiest movie on the YouTubes about it

Wontonimo: I thought it was something like, society is only 3 meals away from total anarchy

a-Rye: and I know several people opting to grow their own food when they can here in the states

Wontonimo: and make their own bullet proof amour

eulerscheZahl: https://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/killdozer.htm

a-Rye: Well yea, it's hard to distance one's self from our love of arms and armor

a-Rye: aaaaaand the killdozer is from my lovely state of Colorado! :sweat_smile:

Wontonimo: gotta go. later!

Westicles: ah, I didn't mean to bum him out with that video. he doesn't understand the #fr sense of humor like I do

eulerscheZahl: and #fr does not understand your sense of humor either :D

Westicles: but I am les testicules de l'ouest!

eulerscheZahl: balls of the West or something like that

antiwonto: [auto] eulerscheZahl be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

eulerscheZahl: yes, i know..

eulerscheZahl: totally saw that coming

jacek: balls game?

antiwonto: [auto] jacek be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

eulerscheZahl: i hope the next contest will contain balls, such as fantastic bits

antiwonto: [auto] eulerscheZahl be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

eulerscheZahl: no

jacek: do you have balls, Automaton2000?

antiwonto: [auto] jacek be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct

Automaton2000: i don't know what is happening

jacek: bloody hell

seni_c: :angry:

jacek: :upside_down:

antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '

Passifi: does anyone know what I have to put in my class so that the sort() algorithm can sort if ? in C++ is overloading one comparison operator enough or do I need to overload them all ?

antiwonto: [auto] Hey Passifi, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 1 tacos

Passifi: Well, thank you antiwonto

Passifi: finally I can be part of this perverted game

NewCoder09: Perverted?

NewCoder09: Passifi perveted?

Passifi: they are throwing perfectly good food around

Passifi: it is a crying shame

NewCoder09: Ok

NewCoder09: :taco: Passifi

antiwonto: [auto] NewCoder09 has awarded Passifi 2 tacos. Passifi now has 3 taco. NewCoder09 now has 5 taco

Passifi: and now they are promoting communism :scream:

Passifi: but thank you anyways :)

Remi.: :taco:

antiwonto: [auto] ':taco:' was defined as ' A currency to some, sustenance for others '

Zorg1: eat taco

antiwonto: [auto] Zorg1 has eaten 10 :taco: and your Strength is now 1. You have 1 left

NewCoder09: Zorg1

Zorg1: ?

NewCoder09: I could've gave you a taco in here

jacek: shakedown Automaton2000

antiwonto: [auto] Automaton2000 needs at least 50 :taco:s to do a shakedown

Automaton2000: is there any way to change the value

Automaton2000: i think i'm missing something

jacek: shakedown derjack

antiwonto: [auto] derjack needs at least 50 :taco:s to do a shakedown

NewCoder09: shakedown jacek

antiwonto: [auto] jacek needs at least 50 :taco:s to do a shakedown

jacek: nyoro~n

Zorg1: shakedown shakedown

Westicles: :taco: BlaiseEbuth

antiwonto: [auto] Westicles has awarded BlaiseEbuth 10 tacos. BlaiseEbuth now has 53 taco. Westicles now has 13 taco

Westicles: shakedown BlaiseEbuth

antiwonto: [auto] Using your superior Dexterity of 8 you shake 10 :taco:s off of BlaiseEbuth. 9 fall on the floor, 1 got crushed, and you lost 1

Passifi: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] Passifi has taken 4 :taco:s off the floor and now has 7. There are 5 left

Westicles: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] Westicles has taken 3 :taco:s off the floor and now has 16. There are 2 left

jacek: eat taco

antiwonto: [auto] jacek has eaten 10 :taco: and your Style is now 1. You have 32 left

Zorg1: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] Zorg1 has taken 2 :taco:s off the floor and now has 3. There are 0 left

Westicles: eat taco

antiwonto: [auto] Westicles has eaten 10 :taco: and your Style is now 4. You have 6 left

Passifi: eat taco

antiwonto: [auto] you need at least 10 tacos to make a proper meal

Passifi: :(

saylor: I did not receive the achievements for Mars Lander 2 :(

saylor: But i even finished the last test with 400+ l fuel

jacek: huh

Stilgart: is the last validator the same as the last test ?

a-Rye: I think CodinGame is just having a heavy flow of traffic. That clashing I was just streaming was very slow.

a-Rye: So achievement notifications might be lagging as well... saw someone else this morning didn't get an achievement either

saylor: i received 100% and on the details page all validators are green

Westicles: we have been beta testing the contest heavily, should speed up soon

a-Rye: Ohh, that might do it!

Stilgart: "Solve 100% of Mars Lander - Level 2 with at least 400l of fuel left on the 5th validation test."

Stilgart: so 50% => 125xp, 100% => 125xp again

Stilgart: and 400l lest on *validator* 5 => 125xp again

Stilgart: oops, it's a medium puzzle, so 50xp instead of 125xp

Sarstan: Oh, I didn't realize I was so close to getting that one. Gonna optimize my code for it.

DestyNova: Is it me or is the site absolutely crawling today?

jacek: Westicles youre beta testing contest?

DestyNova: Oh I see, should have scrolled up further :D

a-Rye: lol I was just typing that. Don't worry, you're not alone in asking

FRDom: wtf you fox talking about

FRDom: bitches

FRDom: :sunglasses:

Nik05: take taco

antiwonto: [auto] aww, there are no tacos to take

Nik05: make taco

Zorg1: create taco from void

Zorg1: don't seem to work

Jojo42069: Coding is hard

Jojo42069: Respect to all the developers out there

Jojo42069: Yall are big brains

ycsvenom: we know

ycsvenom: lool

Jojo42069: But does the world know :eyes:

hobovsky: ,

imathwee: why is the site down

a-Rye: anyone can be big brains enough, just takes time and many clashes / puzzles / playgrounds

ycsvenom: very true

Sarstan: Like a friend was telling me. Getting the basics down in understanding how it works and syntax is the start. From there it's just learning what tools are out there.

ycsvenom: i trained like that and look at me now i am the worst programmer ever :grimacing:

Sarstan: I don't know man. There's the programmers at places like Tumblr. Can't do too much worse.

a-Rye: right? Google Fu is key / being able to find those tools

Sarstan: It's also realizing when you're struggling hard to solve something, there's probably a tool you don't know about to do it, lol.

a-Rye: I just did a clash where I found the days of a month for a specific year...all just by importing a tool and feeding it the inputs. Felt like cheating

Sarstan: Oh yeah, just had one where you convert 24 hour time to 12 hour time. I copy and pasted, changed what I needed. Then ran out of time figuring out how to handle invalid entries.

ycsvenom: in my opinion tools is for Pros, if you don't how to make the tool by yourself don't use it until you make a small replica What do you think Uljahn , nicola?

a-Rye: That's a good point. Be able to write the tool, but know it already exists and use that when able

a-Rye: Then again, there are too many tools to really rewrite them all... or maybe that's just my excuse lol

ycsvenom: you can use if you want to but it would improve you coding skills and imagination if you code it yourself or even just think about it's structure

ycsvenom: my CoC rank is 666 right now lool

a-Rye: nice lol

a-Rye: mine keeps slipping. Haven't been getting a lot of the really easy ones, at least for me

ycsvenom: i was 450 before 2 weeks but now i feel stupid :rolling_eyes: i don't know why i am forcing myself to attend to CoC's to improve my problem solving

AdemDj12: you have to enjoy the jorney bro

Uljahn: CoC problems? lol

ycsvenom: i know it's just a snacks Uljahn

Uljahn: "without challenge there is no growth"

ycsvenom: what do you suggest?

Uljahn: classic puzzles and multis

Ahmed192_168_0_1: which alogorithms is best to learn for programming problems solving

ycsvenom: do you have specific one in mind?

ycsvenom: there is various kinds of algorithm each have special case to apply on

a-Rye: several. Sorting algorithms are good as they show you arrays

ycsvenom: so there is no standard one

ycsvenom: it depends on the problem and domain

Ahmed192_168_0_1: i didnt learn

a-Rye: I have some on Beginner Python Concepts under Activities -> Learn. There are a lot of others, but for basics this one is decent

Ahmed192_168_0_1: i was only learn languages and now i feel stuck in this

Ahmed192_168_0_1: i complete the basics and learn some libraries of python

a-Rye: Ah. More advanced would be things like Graphs, Binary Search Trees, better Encryption

Ahmed192_168_0_1: where should I start

a-Rye: Activities -> Practice and find puzzles that sound fun. It takes a bit to get used to what they're looking for, but there are plenty that use these tougher algorithms

ycsvenom: i don't know if this is a good advice but you shall start wondering like if you watch a video or read something you start to wonder "what if we change this" think about it and start coding programming is only gained by experience

Ahmed192_168_0_1: yeah bro but i, unfortunately, i am kind of good at maths but its not okay for me when i start coding i don't understand where to i start how to crack this thats why i join this type of websites i jus wanna improve

a-Rye: Clashing is good. You can ask questions of the others clashing with you. Each clash has their own chat that is created. Also, streamers doing clashes are good to ask questions

flofromproggresive: no one ever talks in the ones im in