jacek: oO
M0hammed: hi jacek why sleep when u can code right
M0hammed: tbh lack of sleep is not good tho
M0hammed: affects concentration too much
HenroLST: according to darwin if we all stop sleeping we would evolve past sleeping
HenroLST: therefore sleeping is for the weak
eulerscheZahl: or we would get extinct
HenroLST: psh
HenroLST: extinction mcextnction
HenroLST: if we die then we were weak
HenroLST: ff im done for the day, bfs beat me today, but tommorrow ill beat it
waterproofsodium: if you "sleap"
waterproofsodium: you were weak
Mengshang: Which the best Visual Studio theme is .
eulerscheZahl: blue
eulerscheZahl: the classic one
eulerscheZahl: light blue
jacek: :upside_down:
jacek: Automaton2000 where is my :taco:
Automaton2000: so it's the same as yours
iamsofia_rless: hy
aCat: chat still alive
aCat: so hello chat :-)
BlaiseEbuth: Not for long... But happy caturday
aCat: as far as this cat knows is sunday :(
BlaiseEbuth: Caturday is everyday
BlaiseEbuth: :cat:
aCat: ah
aCat: :D
jacek: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/181/604/it_is_written_caturday.jpg
BlaiseEbuth: ^^
aCat: :joy_cat:
Aldoggen: yay, cat-loving people!
eulerscheZahl: hey cat, we have a few more days of reprieve for this chat
eulerscheZahl: let's hope for the governor's call last minute to stop the execution
aCat: I really hope for this
aCat: I mean I use discord normally but rarely for CG and it is not a substitution for CG chat in any moment
j4at: Yeah, also discord can't replace coc chat.
eulerscheZahl: admittedly that's an aspect i don't care about personally - but i understand what you mean. you can't easily find the participants of your particular clash on discord and hope they see it in a timely manner
K4YZ: Hi guys! I am new here to discover CodinGame, what a fun way to practice coding skill :D
eulerscheZahl: i'm here for 6 years - and the gamified approach with animations still keeps me here
jacek: startup eh
K4YZ: :grin:
eulerscheZahl: you have to find that one exception, don't you jacek?
jacek: i write in java, my code is really exceptional
eulerscheZahl: just checked: 22 days until my 6th anniversary on CG
Wishbone: I'll soon have my 1-week anniversary here :-D
Westicles: how do you tell how old an account is?
jacek: by counting the rings
Westicles: Getting started with CodinGame! Mar 4, 2017
Westicles: 5+ years for me
eulerscheZahl: i checked the age of my forum account
Aldoggen: I can't find that. is it somewhere in the settings?
Aldoggen: aah, I found it. I need to expand something when I'm on the page of my forum profile
Aldoggen: I've been on here for almost two weeks
martinpapa69: impressive
Aldoggen: lol
Aldoggen: not as impressive as teemo's height
martinpapa69: wow
martinpapa69: im 69th
Aldoggen: ok, that's pretty cool
jacek: oh my
martinpapa69: ye i need new profile image
martinpapa69: teemo is boring
Aldoggen: what about a yin-yang sign that's secretly almost the numbers 6 and 9?
martinpapa69: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Frender.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages%2Frendered%2Fsmall%2Fprint%2Fimages%2Fartworkimages%2Fsquare%2F1%2Fyin-yang-69-zane-maxwell.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpixels.com%2Ffeatured%2Fyin-yang-69-zane-maxwell.html&tbnid=GHf2iwuxj35rMM&vet=12ahUKEwjy39mKt9z4AhXYwwIHHRnMAV8QMygZegUIARD0AQ..i&docid=IYXQOCySPsDi7M&w=180&h=180&q=69%20yin%20yang&ved=2ahUKEwjy39mKt9z4AhXYwwIHHRnMAV8QMygZegUIARD0AQ
martinpapa69: oops
Aldoggen: that's a quick way to flush the chat
jacek: waku wak
Aldoggen: Automaton2000 what do you think martinpapa69's new profile pic should be
Automaton2000: there is no need for mcts
jacek: oO
StevenV: Hi Automaton2000,
Automaton2000: it has the same result
Aldoggen: Automaton2000 as what?
Automaton2000: i think there's a bug in your code
StevenV: how old are you Automaton2000.
Automaton2000: to find the index of the first action thing still work?
Aldoggen: Automaton2000 tell me where my bug is please?
Automaton2000: or do they have a script to merge them
Aldoggen: not helpful. was worth a try tho
Aldoggen: Automaton2000 I found my bug! I had a gigantic if-else tree and I forgot a case
Automaton2000: but this is my first time
StevenV: I wonder how they code Automaton2000
Automaton2000: that last bit triggers me, oh well.
5DN1L: You can check its profile, there's a blog link there, you can read it to learn more
StevenV: thanks
5DN1L: np
Aldoggen: there's also this https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/code-your-own-automaton2000-step-1
Automaton2000: because you need to check if the opponent is in the top of the leaderboard
Aldoggen: XD
StevenV: well...
Darleanow: i need to confess
Darleanow: people who code in C are scary
Floxyii: Anyone that wants to play an escape room?
StevenV: I need to confess, most of top players use C++ for CG bots
Darleanow: i'm more comfortable with c++ than c xD
Darleanow: it is weird right ?
StevenV: no, I learn C++ from the beginning, and never learn C though
Darleanow: ok we fine then!
StevenV: :D
Darleanow: oh btwi have a question
Darleanow: we you init an array, you need to give it the size
Darleanow: or either values to that
Darleanow: but what if i wanna do an array who's length is growing up
Darleanow: like in a for loop
Darleanow: it would be [1] then [1,2] etc
StevenV: why don't use a linked list for it?
StevenV: or ArrayList in Java
Darleanow: can i do something like int arr[**argv] ?
StevenV: for C++, we can new an Array at run time, so we actually can create a structure like ArrayList in Java
Darleanow: idk about java :/
eulerscheZahl: linked list and arraylist are hugely different in regards to expected runtime
Rafarafa: how do I paste a snippet again? pastebin doesn't work atm right?
eulerscheZahl: pastebin.com
jacek: for C++ use vector
Darleanow: (i'd prefer something not so slow, because i work with those values)
eulerscheZahl: for vector use C++
Darleanow: i'm using C atm :)
StevenV: ah
StevenV: yes, vector is like arrayList right?
jacek: then your dead
jacek: eeyup
Darleanow: i think that the problem is that i've started with python instead of c or something like this
Darleanow: ah f***
eulerscheZahl: nothing wrong with python to get started
eulerscheZahl: fast progress, keeps motivation high
jacek: except its dynamic and does stuff for you
Darleanow: i mean, there is a lot of things that are easier, that's the problem imo
Darleanow: in C u need to write a lot more
eulerscheZahl: it has a lot of magic things going on that you won't understand or have to consider
Darleanow: i'm not really experienced so i might be saying stupid things
Darleanow: indeed x)
Rafarafa: alright, this is my solution to the problem 'Treasure Hunt', does someone know why dfs2 doesn't work?
https://pastebin.com/Rdeuvu4J
Rafarafa: (python)
Rafarafa: the solution works, but not the dfs2 is what I mean
StevenV: oh, an easy puzzle needs an DFS for it?
eulerscheZahl: you have one object for visited that you pass in the recursive call for dfs2
eulerscheZahl: you have to remove it at one point (or make a copy as you did in dfs)
eulerscheZahl: visited.add(node)
result = gold + max(...)
visited.remove(node)
return result
eulerscheZahl: something like this
Bn_Gaber: can i creat a room to beat with my friends ?
Bn_Gaber: compete*
5DN1L: scroll to the bottom, click START A PRIVATE CLASH
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/clashofcode
5DN1L: if you're talking about Clash of Code with your friends
Bn_Gaber: yes that is what i mean
Bn_Gaber: thank you man
5DN1L: np
Rafarafa: wait but then I get a max recursion depth message
Rafarafa: since it loops forever with visited = {} no?
eulerscheZahl: not if you did what i told you to do
eulerscheZahl: you add the node => 1 node in the list
then you do the recursive call and add another => 2 nodes
eulerscheZahl: then you get more and more until you return from recursion and remove then again one after another
eulerscheZahl: in the end your visited list will be empty again
Rafarafa: can't say that I fully understood what you say but it works indeed
Rafarafa: said*
Rafarafa: thanks by the way
eulerscheZahl: just print the list of visited nodes each time. should give you an idea of what's going on
Rafarafa: :thumbsup:
martinpapa69: test
struct: test received
eulerscheZahl: test completed
Aldoggen: test eaten
enamya: test tested
Darleanow: no teemo pp :'(
Aldoggen: nice nice pic tho
Aldoggen: new*
martinpapa69: ty, but the thumbnail is still the old one
martinpapa69: for me at least
Aldoggen: lmao true
Aldoggen: for me too
Aldoggen: chat is really buggy then
struct: ctrl f5
Aldoggen: ah
martinpapa69: nope
Aldoggen: lol
Aldoggen: me neither
martinpapa69: I think the server periodacally updates the thumbnails or something
Darleanow: has anyone achieved happy-numbers in C
Darleanow: and if so, in how many lines (just to get an idea) and how about the difficulty of it
Aldoggen: lemme make it in python real quick and port it to c
Darleanow: Aldoggen, you can't x)
Aldoggen: oh wait big numbers
Darleanow: happy numbers
Darleanow: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/happy-numbers
Darleanow: i can even give u my code for py one
Aldoggen: well, python can handle all integers
Darleanow: but the problem is with the atoi function
Darleanow: yeah i did it in py
Darleanow: but u can't convert py to c
Darleanow: this easily i mean
Darleanow: you can try if u want
Aldoggen: I don't think the problem is with atoi. it's with the inherent storage of integers in c
Aldoggen: idk. were you trying to fit the whole number in an integer, or just one digit?
Aldoggen: Darleanow do you still need help?
eulerscheZahl: my c# code for happy numbers has 30 lines, others are in a similar range
eulerscheZahl: it's more of a math problem than coding
Aldoggen: yup
Aldoggen: just did it in 22 lines in python
Aldoggen: and I didn't use big integers at all
Aldoggen: kept them as strings
eulerscheZahl: for an easier one:
https://projecteuler.net/problem=1
try to solve it without loops
Aldoggen: I think Darleanow left a long time ago
eulerscheZahl: oh, RIP
Aldoggen: the one you sent is cool!
Aldoggen: I'm guessing I want to use the gauss formula
Aldoggen: and then add the multiples of 3 and 5, and subtract the multiples of 15
eulerscheZahl: yes
Aldoggen: noice :)
Aldoggen: I think I did this a few years ago, but with loops
eulerscheZahl: the add and subtract is called principle of inclusion and exclusion btw
Aldoggen: aah, size of the union of two sets is the sum of the sizes of the sets, minus the size of the interception :)
Aldoggen: I forgot how intricate it became for more than two sets lol
Aldoggen: okay, back to the happy numbers problem. did you use some kind of array to store the sums of squares of digits?
Aldoggen: aah, it was c#
MSmits: yay I finally have my bitboard updating correctly and a nice error print map: https://imgur.com/a/vuLuv2l
Aldoggen: noice :)
MSmits: making good prints for boardgames is an art unto itself :)
MSmits: next up, get the BFS working so i can get out of wood 1 :P
Aldoggen: that reminds me I have about 5 projects of this site I eventually need to get back to lol
Aldoggen: I agree about the prints for boardgames
struct: are you using u128 MSmits?
MSmits: i am using 64 bit for verticals and 64 bit for horizontals
MSmits: i never use u128
struct: you did for hs
MSmits: yeah, that's when i learned not to :P
MSmits: GE is a bit misleading, it seems like you have 9x9 squares so it wont fit on 64 bit , but it does
MSmits: there is no point to placing walls on the outer edges, so i ignore them
struct: yeah when you said 64 it instantly made sense :p
MSmits: btw, i kinda do use u128 in my windows forms programs, but it's this weird type called Guid
eulerscheZahl: what's weird about Guid?
MSmits: it's weird because it's not intended to be a 128 bit integer
eulerscheZahl: of course not
MSmits: it has something to do with web, i dunno
MSmits: i use it as a 128 bit integer anyways
eulerscheZahl: it's just a unique identifier. you can use it anywhere, not just web
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: like an integer :)
eulerscheZahl: might be an ID for the database of your website, yes
MSmits: i guess that is what it was intended for
eulerscheZahl: basically a random 128 bit number, but with more complex rules to generate it
MSmits: I use it for persistent dictionary. It is the largest value type, so i dont have to use a struct which is apparently slower
eulerscheZahl: i think it includes the timestamp of creation and some hardware info of your computer
eulerscheZahl: struct you are slow
struct: ik
eulerscheZahl: struct is a value type in C#. i think MS recommends it for structures up to 8 or 16 byte, something in that range
pyprog: hello lusers
pyprog: :innocent:
Darleanow: is there anything above unsigned long long int ?
Aldoggen: Darleanow do you still need help with the happy numbers?
Darleanow: in C ?
Darleanow: i did it
Darleanow: i can solve 3 firsyt
Darleanow: but for the two last ones
Darleanow: unsigned long long int x;
Darleanow: isnt enough
Aldoggen: the solution is that you need to as many numbers as you can as strings
Aldoggen: you need to store*
Aldoggen: so that big number you get in input? store as string. need to compute the squares of digits? convert individual digits to int
Aldoggen: from then on you can probably store everything as int
dager12: yall text too much guess why we nerds have no girls
**PatrickMcGinnisII :coffee:
Aldoggen: I can't tabcomplete Automaton2000's name anymore
Automaton2000: ah i need to look at my code and it shows the script?if so that would be great
HenroLST: hm
HenroLST: dager12 you have one?
PatrickMcGinnisII: yall need avatars, i always assume blank ones are newbies and ignore msgs
Aldoggen: my avatar is on my linux partition
Aldoggen: I haven't found a way to access it without downloading some random program
Aldoggen: on windows currently
HenroLST: i have one but doesnt show on chat :(
Aldoggen: sad stuff
Aldoggen: I uploaded my pic
Aldoggen: gitlab allow you to download it
Aldoggen: I tried discord first
Aldoggen: wouldn't work
Aldoggen: it's only 400x400 pixels tho
PatrickMcGinnisII: i guess chat is really going away this week... acording to Thibaud
Aldoggen: yeah
Aldoggen: I've been following people I want to keep in touch with
Aldoggen: aw you followed me back <3
China-xyh: I like Clash of Code!
China-xyh: Ummm
PatrickMcGinnisII: i like seeing what rank people are on bot game start page, don't know much use beyond that, discord names don't match up... well mine doesn't
Aldoggen: lol
Aldoggen: yeah I still don't know what to do when chat goes down
China-xyh: Hee
PatrickMcGinnisII: I haven't been on CG discord in months, probably tons of chat history with valuable info tho
China-xyh: Emm
Aldoggen: and memes
Aldoggen: today's meme is one about python's help function
China-xyh: But I can't use discord in China.
China-xyh: ...
Ryflyy: how do i code im new
Aldoggen: the gist of it is: you give very specific instructions to the computer, and then it hopefully does what you meant it to do, instead of what you told it to do
Aldoggen: I suggest to start out in python3
Aldoggen: if you don't know what that is, click on my name in chat, and we'll talk in the private chat
nowfel: @kentonbandy not just you
aCat: HOLD THE EXECTUTION!
BlueTaxidermist_737: hello, here's a fun fact for today: visual basic sits proudly at the top with regards to number of keywords with 217 of them being present in the language
Aldoggen: lmao
MSmits: nice, simple BFS seems enough to get out of wood for great escape
Aldoggen: noice lol
Aldoggen: to bronze, and beyond!
MSmits: indeed :)
wediaklup: bfs?
Aldoggen: breadth first search
MSmits: breadth first search
Aldoggen: apparently you type even slower than I do :)
MSmits: well sometimes
MSmits: I just type carefully so they don't think it's about searching for bread
Aldoggen: bread first, then jam!
MSmits: bronze is huge, 1210 players
Aldoggen: that's a bunch
MSmits: ranked 352 now, still going up, with simple bfs
Aldoggen: in cyborg uprising it's 2.7k tho
MSmits: nice
MSmits: ghost in the cell
MSmits: that's what it was called i think
MSmits: before the great purge
Aldoggen: are you talking about cyborg uprising?
MSmits: yes
Aldoggen: I don't know about the great purge :)
MSmits: they renamed a lot of arena's to avoid lawsuits over copyright violation
Aldoggen: ooh
Aldoggen: wow yeah
MSmits: mad pod racing = coders strike back
MSmits: (star wars reference)
Nikanameu: and power of thor?
Aldoggen: lol, I like mad pod racing better though
MSmits: I think it was still called that?
Aldoggen: it's a little more descriptive
MSmits: yeah mad pod racing is ok
MSmits: we just always called it csb
PatrickMcGinnisII: it's hard AF to find post mortems as it is
MSmits: so that takes some getting used to
Aldoggen: thor can probably not be claimed, so it's ok to use
Aldoggen: oh, because all the post mortems refer to the old names?
Nikanameu: mean max obvious one
Aldoggen: oof
defalt404: yooo this website is ccoooooooooooool
defalt404: how i didnt know abt this:(
Aldoggen: I think a lot of people don't
MSmits: yeah
Aldoggen: I learned of its existence through reddit of all things
Aldoggen: I'm currently doing line racing
MSmits: tron
Aldoggen: yup
Aldoggen: it's actually annoying I couldn't find it using that name
Nikanameu: harry potter flyers
PatrickMcGinnisII: Aldoggen yes, it's great to read what people did on contest when u trying to do multi, can save alot of time. GitC is still my fav game... er great purge... smh. CSB is still a good multi to start with tho
Aldoggen: great purge?
MSmits: gitc is called cyborg uprising
PatrickMcGinnisII: An omage to a movie isn't a TM/copyright infringement, I don't really see why they did it
MSmits: the great purge was what i call the renaming of arena's
PatrickMcGinnisII: oh sorry
Aldoggen: aah all right
MSmits: PatrickMcGinnisII i completely agree, they went way too far with it
MSmits: it's like renaming it was cheaper than checking with a lawyer
Aldoggen: just to make sure I guess
MSmits: well a lawyer can make sure too, but this costs money
Aldoggen: GitC is probably my favourite one too at the moment
Aldoggen: I've played many games like it in the past. there you had to do the moving yourself of course
MSmits: I like gitc, but wasn't very good at it
MSmits: i didnt know what search type to use on finding the best moves
Aldoggen: so now I'm trying to capture my experience in hard coded commands lol
Aldoggen: yeah, it's far from evident
MSmits: I remember getting to silver and then 3 months later getting to gold out of the blue, from someone pushing me over boss
Aldoggen: whoa how does that happen?
MSmits: people submit
MSmits: lose battles to you
MSmits: you go up in rating
MSmits: can also go down, but lucky streaks happen
PatrickMcGinnisII: maybe they were tired of the github repos of Fantastic Bits code ... I dunno.
Aldoggen: but don't you have to beat the boss yourself?
MSmits: no, you have to be ranked above the boss
Aldoggen: aaah
Nikanameu: which movie is green circle referencing
Aldoggen: that's how I got to bronze in GitC then
Aldoggen: I was rank 1, just below the boss at some point
MSmits: Nikanameu dont think it references a movie. It was made to accomodate a company. Green refers to sustainable energy.
PatrickMcGinnisII: Nikanameu I think it's refereencing the sponsor companies commitment to green tech
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmmm, i defer to u MSmits
MSmits: as you should :P
Aldoggen: pecking order among programmers lol
MSmits: Aldoggen sometimes you can play perfectly and still not get to the next league on submit
MSmits: this happened to me in the lower league of dots and boxes
Aldoggen: it's just luck I guess
PatrickMcGinnisII: MSmits I been redoing my Galleon Wars code, any recommendations?
MSmits: no, i havent made a serious bot for that one PatrickMcGinnisII
MSmits: i think i watched a YT and copied their code
MSmits: a long time ago
MSmits: just to get bronze
PatrickMcGinnisII: I have sumbitted on every multi, some good...some bad... revisions are definetely necessary to regain CP i lost on green circle
PatrickMcGinnisII: omg, MSmits u in wood2...sry
MSmits: lol
MSmits: thats possible too
MSmits: i just have a crap bot is all i know
MSmits: i have a crap bot on some of those ex contests. Mean max too
PatrickMcGinnisII: yep, i submitted crap bot for mean max
MSmits: I'll get to them at some point
MSmits: one thing at a time. It's great escape now
MSmits: kinda like this one
PatrickMcGinnisII: but i can do better than 1277th in Galleon ...
MSmits: yeah seems likely
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmm great escape, oh yall were talkin bout it earlier
MSmits: yeah, I am going to try a mcts for it
PatrickMcGinnisII: eww
MSmits: first version is just bfs. got out of wood for it, now 229/1210 bronze
PatrickMcGinnisII: I think full sim is like 42 depth
MSmits: 42 depth?
MSmits: are you talking about branching?
MSmits: or do you mean random rollout?
PatrickMcGinnisII: 10 walls *2, plus max move distance ... I think the math works out to around 42 depth
MSmits: i will probably not roll out till end of game. Randomly placing walls seems bad
PatrickMcGinnisII: i couldn't figure out the eval for depth... 5 to 6
MSmits: I could just use bfs distance as the end result and backprop that
MSmits: need to bfs anyway to check noone is blocked
PatrickMcGinnisII: simple path inserrtions got me to silver...no depth
MSmits: yeah makes sense
PatrickMcGinnisII: I know how to pack the wall info into 64 bits, but unpacking into nodelists were too cpu intensive
Aldoggen: then you obviously need to perform all calculations on those 64 bits
struct: MSmits floodfill might work here
MSmits: how so struct?
Aldoggen: slash (/) s gives me an error that that command doesn't exists lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: my pathfinders are FF
struct: Yeah floodfill can be used as pathfinder
struct: basicly you keep doing floodfill to not visited cells and when you reach end
struct: the iteration of flood will match the distance
MSmits: that's bfs basically
MSmits: i got to rank 229 bronze with just bfs
MSmits: no walls
struct: nice
PatrickMcGinnisII: the 9x9 visited map screws up performance
MSmits: why ?
Astrobytes: php
MSmits: void SetVisited(int x, int y)
{
visited[y] |= 1 << x;
}
MSmits: void ResetVisited()
{
memset(visited, 0, 9 * sizeof(int));
}
MSmits: works fast
Astrobytes: you don't even need the memset if you do it the counting way
PatrickMcGinnisII: no memset in php, array setting/copying is not ideal
MSmits: yeah i know Astrobytes, wasnt any better when i tested though
aCat: counting way?
MSmits: yeah you have integers that go up, but you'll need more of them
MSmits: 81 integers instead of 9
PatrickMcGinnisII: i saw the counting way on a puzzle reecently, it is fast
aCat: ah ok, right bet then no bits
BlaiseEbuth: Oy there. What's the multi?
MSmits: talking about great escape
MSmits: I think mainly for the mcts, I need to prune walls to consider
MSmits: can't consider all 128 wall placements
BlaiseEbuth: Old things coming back...
Astrobytes: mcts?
MSmits: yeah
Astrobytes: interesting approach
MSmits: why not mcts
MSmits: i think yurko did it, he's rank 2
Astrobytes: no, not condemning it or anything :D
BlaiseEbuth: 2 is not 1
MSmits: the other one is the contest winner I think
Aldoggen: 2 is better than bronze
MSmits: yes
Astrobytes: indeed :D
MSmits: 2 is not 1, but it proves it's a valid approach. I just have to do it better :)
BlaiseEbuth: Better is better than worse
Aldoggen: then you'll be rank 2 :p
MSmits: rating difference is like 0.4 or something, he's probably randomly 2
MSmits: 0.47
Aldoggen: ah, still possible to become rank 2 I guess
Aldoggen: but harder
PatrickMcGinnisII: i still say MC on GE is kinda yucky, definetely have to direct it with some starting position strategy
MSmits: mcts you mean?
MSmits: mc is a different thing
PatrickMcGinnisII: yessum
MSmits: you can just consider a limited amount of walls
MSmits: like, walls near your opponent
MSmits: and near yourself
Astrobytes: I never finished my GE bot, think its in silver or something
MSmits: once you coded the mcts, that pruning strategy is all you need to think about
BlaiseEbuth: Same Astro. Well it was...
MSmits: astro 971st
Aldoggen: is it possible to demote?
Astrobytes: no Aldoggen
Astrobytes: thankfully
Astrobytes: ty MSmits
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth ;)
Aldoggen: all right :)
Aldoggen: brb
struct: maybe add close to the last placed wall MSmits :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: definetely off/def. game ... maybe a 3 depth minmax... and then a mcts on like top 50 leaves . that was what I wanted to try, but never did
PatrickMcGinnisII: I think it's like 27^3 ... which i could do in php\
martinpapa69: test
martinpapa69: still old thumbnail wtf
struct: restart your browser
struct: idk how it works tbh
struct: its cached in your browser
martinpapa69: still
martinpapa69: ctrl f5 should do the job, its server thing
PatrickMcGinnisII: chat is on last legs
PatrickMcGinnisII: GL MSmits, let us know how it goes
BlaiseEbuth: Nah cach stay even after refresh
MSmits: will do thanks PatrickMcGinnisII
martinpapa69: what about ctrl f5 ?
MSmits: and good idea struct
eulerscheZahl: browser restart doesn't clear your cache unless you changed the default settings. ctrl+f5 sounds much more promising to me
PatrickMcGinnisII: <alt>+F4 solves my problems
martinpapa69: :)
Aldoggen: I'm implementing a Voronoi-based eval for line racing. I just realized this method will also always try to maximize the amount of moves in case it gets stuck. I like that
BlaiseEbuth: Another math teacher explode...
Aldoggen: explode?
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah. Boom
Aldoggen: why?
BlaiseEbuth: Seems the 'Voronoi' people do for line racing is not a Voronoi mathematically speaking. But I don't know exactly, I'm not a math teacher. Proof: I didn't explode
Aldoggen: XD
wediaklup: good proof
Aldoggen: I'm glad I didn't become a math teacher
Westicles: Another way of saying 'I'm glad I didn't major in math'
Aldoggen: I did
Aldoggen: well
Aldoggen: I'm messing about with the last couple of courses
struct: I do have a major in math
struct: maths*
Astrobytes: ;)
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah that doesn't look like fun... They don't have the right to make humor, and if they do they mutate into physics teachers... :scream:
Aldoggen: my math teacher in the last years of high school constantly cracked little math jokes
Aldoggen: was a civil engineer tho
Aldoggen: maybe they are allowed
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:
Astrobytes: Starving parrot == polynomial
Astrobytes: (Polly no-meal)
Astrobytes: not my 'joke' thankfully
Aldoggen: an old lady I once knew had a parrot. when she first bought him, he did nothing but curse
Aldoggen: (this is a joke btw)
Westicles: maths and sport are the two biggies where US guys will think you have a learning disability or something
Aldoggen: she tried a lot of stuff, but finally the only thing that worked was putting him in the freezer
Aldoggen: first couple of seconds he still cursed, but after that it became awfully quiet
Aldoggen: she opened the fridge, and the parrot shyly stepped out
Aldoggen: he said "I'm sorry for my behaviour. I'll stop cursing from now on."
PatrickMcGinnisII: I did rank high on line racing using voroni calc of each direction
Aldoggen: And followed with "And by the way, may I know what the chickend did to you?"
MSmits: lol
putibuzu: :D
BlaiseEbuth: :D
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Astrobytes: love it
Aldoggen: punchline is soo good imo
MSmits: this is like a norm macdonald joke
Aldoggen: maybe it's his, Idk where it came from
BlaiseEbuth: Ffs Astrobytes... And ZarthaxX is a cartesian bear who changed its coordinates system.
Astrobytes: :D
Westicles: they used to tell poles in the left-hand plane jokes in college but it might offend jacek
BlaiseEbuth: oO
Westicles: or maybe it was right :thinking:
BlaiseEbuth: Oo
Aldoggen: BlaiseEbuth love how it's now the other eye that's bigger
BlaiseEbuth: OO
Aldoggen: oo
PatrickMcGinnisII: right hand rule physics jokes can get a bit dirty
PatrickMcGinnisII: :zipper_mouth:
MSmits: Westicles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_0q_CXl41s Polish joke
PatrickMcGinnisII: nyone ever notice that Elon Musk is literally applying Afro-Engineering, since he was born in S. Africa?
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQb1h65LikY
Astrobytes: MSmits :D
MSmits: norm macdonald is always good :)
Aldoggen: MSmits the last line was delivered deadpan too lol
Nerchio: kek
Astrobytes: indeed he is
BlaiseEbuth: musk...
Nikanameu: why are some puzzles giving more XP than others in same category
struct: Some where made by CG
struct: non CG puzzles only give 50exp
Westicles: now YT is going to recommend norm OJ jokes until I erase cookies
Nikanameu: nintendo 500 shadows 2 750 i dont understand
struct: shadows 2 has an achievement
struct: that gives 250exp
Aldoggen: I was gonna say because they made it the f up
Aldoggen: but that sounds more plausible
MSmits: westicles =) they are good oj jokes though
MSmits: that's my lucky stabbin' cap!
Westicles: heh heh
MSmits: he got fired for those actually
MSmits: producer was a friend of oj's
MSmits: and he wouldn't stop
Westicles: that's what they say, but I suspect the Clinton jokes might have been a factor as well
Westicles: lucky he wasn't killed
MSmits: yeah. I heard bill clinton killed a guy
MSmits: (is norm macdonald joke)
MSmits: he did this on like a morning show too
eulerscheZahl: isn't he eating babies?
Aldoggen: why not both!
PatrickMcGinnisII: Told my GF I wasn't gonna get my haircut til I got laid, my dreadlocks are getting annoying. I should get a haircut and freak her out, she'll think I'm stepping out on her. meh.
Aldoggen: at the same time!
MSmits: no no, this was way before conspiracy theories were a thing Euler
MSmits: he was just making fun
MSmits: on a US morning show
MSmits: even
Astrobytes: wasn't it hilary that eats babies? According to the consp. theorists/alt-right
eulerscheZahl: why not both?
MSmits: i think a lot of people eat them
Astrobytes: :D
Aldoggen: lol
eulerscheZahl: bill gates too. you can tell by how young he still looks
Astrobytes: ever seen the movie Dumplings?
eulerscheZahl: nope, should i put it on my list?
Astrobytes: Yes!
MSmits: what kills me about this conspiracy is not even that they think people drink the blood of babies, but that they think it works
PatrickMcGinnisII: hillary has lost her mind from injecting hormones from glands of fetuses
Westicles: that bohemian grove thing is for real though
Astrobytes: Hong Kong horror-ish, but something of a tale of morality
Astrobytes: every time I make steamed dumplings, I remember it
Westicles: dress up like owls and worship... something.
eulerscheZahl: somehow i always think about ducklings when reading dumplings. and then think "what the hell is he eating?"
MSmits: so it's like going to church in the woods Westicles?
Westicles: I don't know, the YT conspiracy guys always say they can't talk about it or they'll get deleted
Astrobytes: because it's completely false?
Astrobytes: Or...?
MSmits: I think you have to be religious for this sort of thing to bother you anyway. Even if they go worship some totem or other it's the same as any other kind of worship to me
Westicles: It is a pillar of the Conspiracy Iceberg!
Astrobytes: I bet this owl cosplay stuff is a hoot :P
MSmits: norm joke!
MSmits: good one
Astrobytes: I should have left the emoji off
MSmits: yep
jacek: :neutral_face:
Lisa-Has-Ideas: I heard an certain ex-prez has a steering wheel fetish.... Hey it's just what I heard.
Lisa-Has-Ideas: Geez... I think I'm responding on theme, and then I realize I am responding to something from hours ago. Just ignore me :)
eulerscheZahl: no, it still fits
Astrobytes: Yep
Aldoggen: you waited so long it came back around
Lisa-Has-Ideas: (hehe, yep)
eulerscheZahl: bashing trump is never out of place
eulerscheZahl: or T**** as stephen colbert censors it
Astrobytes: extra points if you do it when Westicles is around
jacek: wheres that github thing
eulerscheZahl: W isn't a Trump fan
Astrobytes: no I know
Aldoggen: why on earth is there a java.security.KeyStore.Entry in java
Astrobytes: It's just more fun
Aldoggen: it's interfering with map.Entry
Westicles: Trump or Bernie, either one for the chaos
Lisa-Has-Ideas: I mean steering wheels are nice and round, they dont object to any one putting hands on them, and you can steer them right. Also some are fuzzy.
Aldoggen: extra points if the horn is nice
Astrobytes: all about that horn
Lisa-Has-Ideas: (yes, if they are horny)
Lisa-Has-Ideas: tap that horn
Westicles: something something blow the airbag
Lisa-Has-Ideas: He's into the Power steering
Aldoggen: damn, keep your steering wheel fetish out the chat
Astrobytes: :rofl:
eulerscheZahl: the imagination of trump throwing his lunch at the wall when angry amused me
Astrobytes: cheeseburger wall decor
Nikanameu: who is best country leader
Aldoggen: if you get lucky, you can almost make the US flag with ketchup and mayo
PatrickMcGinnisII: next up: the nuclear football
PatrickMcGinnisII: herre, hold this between your legs...;do u feel the power?
**PatrickMcGinnisII needs to shut up
Lisa-Has-Ideas: And yet all the TrumPets would defend him: "Hey, its his football."
Westicles: Justin Castreau?
jacek: https://github.com/i-voted-for-trump/is-odd
eulerscheZahl: he's odd indeed
Astrobytes: where tf did that Trudeau conspiracy come from
Westicles: he looks just like him
Nikanameu: his mom liked castreau
Westicles: and his mom hung out with him
Westicles: and he's the right age
Astrobytes: never heard so much shite in my life :rofl:
Nikanameu: more handsome man
Westicles: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wherry-trudeau-castro-1.3871016
Lisa-Has-Ideas: Hey y'all I just got my very first Classic Puzzle Approved/published. If so inclined, go solve it (easy) and give it a solid 5/5
Lisa-Has-Ideas: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/artificial-emotional-intelligence
Westicles: too much cutting and pasting
Aldoggen: I can't seem to tab-complete Automaton2000's name anymore. did I already say that
Automaton2000: so at least i think that is what you do with it?
Aldoggen: ?
Westicles: people are stunned by the castreau facts
Astrobytes: Actually I'm brushing my hair
Astrobytes: takes a while
BlaiseEbuth: :lion_face:
Westicles: KTG went from 6 1-stars to 4. People are torn, losing sleep over it
Aldoggen: ktg?
Westicles: kiss the girls
Aldoggen: lol
eulerscheZahl: you could play the puzzle of the week with your hair
MSmits: are you telling him to light his hair on fire?
Astrobytes: :o
BlaiseEbuth: :metal:
jacek: oO
Nikanameu: HOT
BlaiseEbuth: (╯°□°)╯︵ Oo
jacek: - That. - She.
Aldoggen: - You look radiant today!
Astrobytes: hahaha
Westicles: bottle rockets flying tomorrow, it could happen
jacek: why
jacek: all of the failures help to fuel success, in the bloody and visceral weather game of chess ~
MSmits: or you can just play indoors
Astrobytes: Yeah, shuffleboard chess is overrated
Astrobytes: well, the big outdoor boards, not technically shuffleboard but you get the idea
MSmits: when i google shuffleboard i get something totally different
Westicles: My mane is purple and my coat is orange
What I've become? I have no idea.
jacek: oO
Westicles: jacek is that a MLP song?
MSmits: trump put on the wrong wig and leaked his bronzer all over his coat
MSmits: did i solve the riddle?:
jacek: its CNN song
jacek: or was it RNN :thinking:
jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzb76EFqZkg
jacek: (warning: youtube link from jacek)
Astrobytes: Good lord. Whatever you do, do not google those lyrics and listen to the 'song'
BlaiseEbuth: Why? :innocent:
jacek: and now you convinced them
MSmits: wait did CG just autolabelled jacek's message
MSmits: with a warning?
jacek: its kind old mlp-based fanfic of how rainbows are created
Astrobytes: It's beyond atrocious. Like coin coin coin is Grammy-winning compared to this
Westicles: oh I was just joking, it really is MLP
jacek: those multilayer perceptrons eh
BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes where are you? I can't hear you... My hears are bleeding and I think my brain is leaking too... :cry:
Astrobytes: :D
jacek: :innocent:
**BlaiseEbuth strangle jacek with his halo.
Astrobytes: jacek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOEjBR5B-8
Westicles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fVOF2PiHnc
jacek: they made movie about me?
Astrobytes: I'd rather listen to Où es-tu mon petit anus? for 24 hours than watch that bronycon thing
Westicles: heh heh
BlaiseEbuth: Why does she have her unerwear on her head?
BlaiseEbuth: +d
Westicles: she's horse famous
jacek: stop horsing around
Astrobytes: this weekend I planned to do some things on CG, instead all I achieved was an FR takeover of World and a bunch of new terrible songs
Astrobytes: A successful weekend at least
BlaiseEbuth: :ok_hand:
jacek: here, have some aww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZuqUofH6D4
Nikanameu: nice
Astrobytes: lol, that's actually pretty good
jacek: :rage:
Astrobytes: why the rageface?
jacek: i thought i trolled you once again
jacek: not many occasions :(
Astrobytes: no that was pretty awesome
Nikanameu: good anime
Astrobytes: you can keep trolling me on discord after the chat goes, don't worry jacek
Aldoggen: I think you trolled me
Aldoggen: I was expecting cute kittens or puppies or something
jacek: :tada:
BlaiseEbuth: You can keep trolling on cheloniangall... :innocent:
Aldoggen: instead I got nazis and cu clux clan
Aldoggen: and i actually had to look up how to spell that last one
jacek: theyre catholics...
Aldoggen: yeah, so?
Astrobytes: indeed @BlaiseEbuth, turtle power
BlaiseEbuth: :turtle:
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: K's not c's (I have no idea why that is)
Aldoggen: aah, right, thought something was off
PatrickMcGinnisII:
Artificial Emotional Intelligence: I didn't like it
jacek: wah
Westicles: nope
Westicles: two lines of code buried in 40 lines of formatting
Aldoggen: oof
Nikanameu: soup text
BlaiseEbuth: How can you say that. This contribution has been legitimately approvate by very serious and attentive people, as always...
Astrobytes: damn, that puzzle looks really annoying
PatrickMcGinnisII: I mean it's easy ... but I think i spent more time editing the const arrays
Astrobytes: some ascii maths and printing lots of shit
Aldoggen: imagine if this was CoC
Astrobytes: then I wouldn't have to look at it :)
Aldoggen: and I just called .lower().split(", ") on the text I copied lol
Aldoggen: python ftw
Astrobytes: I usually do easy-medium puzzles in python first
Aldoggen: I only do them in python lol
Astrobytes: I bet there's a perl one liner for this
Aldoggen: can I use semicolons?
Astrobytes: sure
Aldoggen: it'd probably work in python then
Aldoggen: (sorry, don't know perl)
Astrobytes: don't worry, I've forgotten most of it too
Aldoggen: she didn't include a consonant list
Aldoggen: grrrr
jacek: you cant sit on keyboard anymore?
Astrobytes: lol
Aldoggen: I
Aldoggen: what?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I learned PERL for a job interview in West Palm Beach, I couldn't believe what the company was trying to do ... (this was in like '95) ... I told them to f*ck off and left.
jacek: to do perl
Aldoggen: lol
Astrobytes: $%&^*()_@:><?}{ probably does something
BlaiseEbuth: As a great man said "Perl users are well educated, otherwise they would code in Java."
Aldoggen: well
Aldoggen: thanks
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Astrobytes: who said that?
Aldoggen: a great man
jacek: she
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol Astrobytes $my&^doessomething
BlaiseEbuth: A french Perler
Astrobytes: You
BlaiseEbuth: Some kind of Perl evangelist if I can say
jacek: was french made in perl
Astrobytes: Patrick try poetry in perl
Astrobytes: perl wasn't made in french at least jacek
Aldoggen: and on top of that, her lists are 1-indexed
Aldoggen: I can't believe this
PatrickMcGinnisII: I think I still have those Perl books, glad i didn't return them to the library to screw up more people
PatrickMcGinnisII: wasted two weeks of my life
Aldoggen: they can still serve as toilet paper
Astrobytes: eh come on, perl is actually pretty cool
jacek: :no_mouth:
Astrobytes: It was much better than python, nobody really knew what python was for until relatively recently
PatrickMcGinnisII: server admins were getting good $ back in the day using perl...not for me
jacek: isnt php a derivative of perl
BlaiseEbuth: Perl is <3
PatrickMcGinnisII: ./eatme
Aldoggen: hmm my AI sounds a bit robotic
Aldoggen: "It's so nice to meet you, my dear sincere ['F', 'r', 'a', 'n', 'k', 'i', 'e']. "
Astrobytes: after I left my job at the search engine and did my year of bartending in corfu, I ended up having to build a website for my boss, and he wanted a custom guestbook, I wrote that in perl
Astrobytes: 2001
**PatrickMcGinnisII needs a :baby_bottle:
BlaiseEbuth: https://metacpan.org/pod/Sex
BlaiseEbuth: Perl. Is. Perfect
Astrobytes: "Because of the dire consequences of having sex with URI, one should make sure you're well protected."
**PatrickMcGinnisII is marked safe from Perl today
Astrobytes: When my ex asked me if I knew R and could I help her with it I told her that all pirates know R. Took a little explaining
BlaiseEbuth: Arrr!
Astrobytes: indeed
jacek: https://esolangs.org/wiki/FiM%2B%2B
Aldoggen: til pirates are statisticians
Astrobytes: not all, but all statisticians are pirates :P
tobk: What's up with the new Green Circle bosses? At first I thought my mid-silver bot would not make it out of Wood 4 (looked really close), now in Wood 2, straight wins...
jacek: the bosses are default ai
jacek: they will discuss if green circle multi will have previous leagues
jacek: full rules since wood2
Aldoggen: I'd say all pirates know R and hence must be statisticians, since there's not much need for R outside of statistics
PatrickMcGinnisII: yall should be thankful this tree doesn't bring up bad memories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL#/media/File:Algol&Fortran_family-by-Borkowski.svg
PatrickMcGinnisII: P pirate smh
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: fair point. She (and I) only ever used it for bioinformatics stuff (both biologists)
Astrobytes: And I hate bioinformatics
jacek: i used R in one subject. the guy didnt care, he just graded stuff so it follows gaussian distribution
Astrobytes: :P
PatrickMcGinnisII: unless u work for the CDC, Rrrrr
Astrobytes: I don't. What did they do?
PatrickMcGinnisII: center for disease control, virus R factor... not important
j4at: why a lot of people use R instead of Python ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: never used R, does it have like high math precision or something?
Astrobytes: stats-wise it's better and possibly faster
Aldoggen: many operations are by default vectorized
Aldoggen: I think
Aldoggen: it's really made to work with datasets
jacek: can you make NN in it
Aldoggen: you can make NN in bf if you want
PatrickMcGinnisII: can it find ~A matrix solutions for me?
Astrobytes: yeah for matrix math etc, it's always been top dog in that respect.
Python though, with certain math libs and ML libs I'm sure can compete
Aldoggen: Astrobytes I think I'd hate bioinformatics too, but I know nothing about it
Aldoggen: python has some nice ml libs last time I heard
Astrobytes: I just always preferred other people to analyze my data for me and send it back
j4at: Python is faster than R unless big vectorizable data. In that case you can use libraries.
Aldoggen: PatrickMcGinnisII ~A matrix solutions? do you mean matrix inverse? it probably can
PatrickMcGinnisII: well that's cool at least
Aldoggen: the * is matrix multiplication by default I think
Aldoggen: don't remember
Aldoggen: sounds weird tho
Aldoggen: ah nope * is just pointwise
BlaiseEbuth: Why people use a fast and efficient language designed for the task they want to accomplish when they can use a generic purpose and not so good language (euphemysm) to do it? :3
Aldoggen: wrap it in percent signs to get the matrix operation lol
Astrobytes: j4at: most things I came across in various bioinformatics depts. were built around frameworks built in C++, with R and python parts
Astrobytes: for things like RNA microarray data etc
PatrickMcGinnisII: There's 1 or 2 puzzles on here that will melt your brain if you can't write your own ~A matrix maker
j4at: python has @ operator for matrix multiplication btw
Aldoggen: can you point me to one PatrickMcGinnisII?
Aldoggen: I'm trying to procrastinate from bugfixing line racing
Astrobytes: lie racing?
Astrobytes: *Line
Astrobytes: ohh tron
BlaiseEbuth: tron
PatrickMcGinnisII: Teacher I know lost his job teaching USGS and datasets, then CoV happened ... THEN they needed him ... I don't think he knows R tho
Astrobytes: any search or even reflex with a heuristic of most squares reachable should be fine for that
Aldoggen: j4at does it do that by default?
Aldoggen: yup tron
jacek: i think its for numpy
Aldoggen: aah makes sense
Aldoggen: Astrobytes I'm implementing something using voronoi, but it's basically multiple flood fills at the same time
Astrobytes: scipy has some handy things too, I mean it's not like python is bad or anything
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: yeah, that sounds like you're on the right track
Aldoggen: I don't think I am. currently 8 inent levels deep
Aldoggen: indent*
Astrobytes: refactor
Aldoggen: once I get it working I'm gonna buy some milk
Astrobytes: get it working then refactor
Aldoggen: aka abandon it for ever
j4at: yes it have by default. Its not for just numpy you can use it with lists/tuples
Astrobytes: lol pretty much
j4at: Aldoggen
Aldoggen: I wanna test that out now lol
j4at: But everyone uses library :3
Astrobytes: hmm, my line racing needs some work
Aldoggen: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for @: 'list' and 'list'
Aldoggen: sad
jacek: its in DLC
Astrobytes: :P
Aldoggen: lol
BlaiseEbuth: ngl
PatrickMcGinnisII: Aldoggen I can't find the puzlle
Aldoggen: til python is p2w
Aldoggen: ty for searching PatrickMcGinnisII
Astrobytes: python immortal
BlaiseEbuth: $_$
Astrobytes: :smiling imp:
Astrobytes: :Smiling_imp:
Astrobytes: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Aldoggen: :smiling_imp:
j4at: oh, its actually for numpy :o
Aldoggen: XD
Astrobytes: :imp:
j4at: My bad hehe
BlaiseEbuth: ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
Aldoggen: I had a suspicion j4at
jacek: :upside_down:
Astrobytes: trolling us eh j4at :P
BlaiseEbuth: There's no trolls here.
jacek: :no_mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJk57IpHrs
BlaiseEbuth: Nah. I recognized the name.
BlaiseEbuth: No more hears anyway
Astrobytes: *ears
jacek: you dont like castlevania?
Astrobytes: *lost your hearing, ears don't work
Astrobytes: ears and hears are great for French
Astrobytes: :D
j4at: Oh @ actually works with lists
j4at: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
j4at: ^
BlaiseEbuth: Poor humans who only have ears when I have hears... :imp:
jacek: belgium youtube?
Aldoggen: HI lost my hears, and now HI can't 'ear anymore
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Aldoggen: I'm not clicking any of those links
Aldoggen: my laptop is connected to boxes
Astrobytes: XcQ eh
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah...
Astrobytes: that one looks familiar
BlaiseEbuth: It's a trap
Astrobytes: Im never gonna click on that
BlaiseEbuth: But you know the rules, and so do I
Astrobytes: when euler extracted the links from the chat logs, rickroll was 13th place
BlaiseEbuth: eZ did that?
Astrobytes: Yeah, on Friday? I think
jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHmywWIgyk
Astrobytes: maybe yesterday morning
Aldoggen: I wonder what was shared more than rickroll
BlaiseEbuth: Oh. What was first?
Astrobytes: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/the-descent was directly above rickroll
Astrobytes: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/445a8582-b07a-41de-b842-b49071b92161
Aldoggen: I have fond memories of this one. my array wouldn't update or something
j4at: you cane
Astrobytes: :(
j4at: you can make @ works with lists you need to overload __matmul__
j4at: and use custom lists
j4at: :p
Nikanameu: what a weak paste bin it say invalid so weak so weak
Astrobytes: https://pastebin.com/h2DNqz1i
BlaiseEbuth: matmul... That sounds like a Gread Old One name...
Astrobytes: that's all I have, not the full list
Astrobytes: and not a full extraction either
Nikanameu: what is that
j4at: a virus
j4at: don't open
Astrobytes: the extracted links from partial chat logs
Aldoggen: only open once you've overridden the mathmul operator on it
Nikanameu: jaat weak joke
Aldoggen: Nikanameu weak level
Nikanameu: uncle roger reference no personal
Nikanameu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeKqTbgiRW0
Aldoggen: all right
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: default CG pastebin is broken
j4at: 8th link is self promotion
Aldoggen: it's thibault probably
Aldoggen: so it's fine?
BlaiseEbuth: The JBM Twich is 7th eh.
Astrobytes: no another thibaud
Aldoggen: oh wait wow
Astrobytes: he did a lot of streaming and an unofficial 'contest' too
Nikanameu: my impersonation maybe weak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfiraB94xcE
Astrobytes: so not self-promotion
Astrobytes: but hey, who cares eh, this will all disappear in a matter of days
Aldoggen: :cry:
j4at: :'(
j4at: before that
j4at: guys, follow me in github I will do feet reveal when i reach 3 followers
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Nikanameu: why disappear
Aldoggen: getting 3 followers would be a feat
Astrobytes: I give out code on my patreon and only fans
Aldoggen: is it sit-on-your-keyboard-perl?
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: they're 86ing the webchat next week
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: if requested
Aldoggen: mmmm ;)
Nikanameu: i don't know what that means
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: they're getting rid of it this coming week
Aldoggen: the chat will be terminated this week
Aldoggen: and my voronoi is too slow
Aldoggen: somehow
Nikanameu: no more chat why
Nikanameu: my blender broke today now chat
Aldoggen: it's too expensive to keep somehow
Astrobytes: Nikanameu:
https://forum.codingame.com/t/discussions-spaces-update-the-question-of-the-chat/196276/26
jacek: you think he didnt see that? its pinned
Astrobytes: :P
Nikanameu: i have selective reading
jacek: lysdexia?
Astrobytes: where do you keep it?
Aldoggen: dslxyia
Aldoggen: ah, I forgot an e
Nikanameu: filtering what i don't need
Nikanameu: dyslexia bad filtering good
Astrobytes: sometimes you need to dig deeper.
Nikanameu: increase tolerance can decrease quality
j4at: I'm actually a NN created by jacek to increase the quality of the messages in chat, to stop it from being deleted. Now, after I failed my job he decided to terminate me :skull:
BlaiseEbuth: Oo
Aldoggen: shouldn't ahve trolled me about @ :p
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: leave that for the computer, we are more nuanced
Nikanameu: chat distracting maybe is to increase productivity
Astrobytes: distraction is not the chats problem, just the user
jacek: which user
Astrobytes: you
jacek: :(
Nikanameu: he did nothing wrong
Astrobytes: ask a silly question...
HenroLST: j4at :astonished:
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: this is jacek we are speaking with
Astrobytes: aka Trollpony Extraordinaire
Astrobytes: I swear half the reason I will miss this chat is because of jacek
Nikanameu: no other code site has chat
Nikanameu: all forum
j4at: and me ?
Nikanameu: who?
Astrobytes: no just jacek :P
HenroLST: j4at arent you jacek's NN though?
Nikanameu: that's why i said who
j4at: Yeah I'm supposed to be better
Astrobytes: I got that Nikanameu
j4at: Well, there is no hope I hacked the Russians nuclear warheads. He can't terminate me now, OR I will destroy Australia
HenroLST: Dang
HenroLST: not the emu's
jacek: not the alps
Astrobytes: Not sure if many would notice, other than the fallout and whatnot
Aldoggen: those alps are pretty southern suddenly
Astrobytes: lol right
j4at: well the spider will try to find a new home
HenroLST: they teleported
j4at: so I bet you will all notice
HenroLST: australian secret
Nikanameu: war no fun, everyone talking big now we all get ... in trouble, NATO, Russia, China, no matter who right or wrong
Aldoggen: but since autralia is upside down, the nuke would just fall away into the sky
Astrobytes: jacek: AustrALIA not Austria
jacek: :upside_down:
HenroLST: hmmm
Astrobytes: Nikanameu: indeed
Aldoggen: jacek is suddenly australian too
j4at: Jacek is Australian :o
HenroLST: Dang
arfelious: are all players listed as online clashers?
Astrobytes: Poles apart :rofl:
Nikanameu: maybe post fallout australia will be written austria to make name shorter
Aldoggen: think so
HenroLST: then would austria be ...
Aldoggen: yep doesn't make sense to me
j4at: upside down Austria
Astrobytes: Austria might be just aus at that point
Aldoggen: I guess
Astrobytes: (there's a joke in there)
Aldoggen: could you say ich bin aus aus?
Aldoggen: or does that not fit,
Aldoggen: ?*
Aldoggen: and my flood fill is way too slow lol
Aldoggen: why is the timeout so short
Astrobytes: seems legit, euler would be best to confirm that though
Astrobytes: probably another word used for that
Aldoggen: google translate says ich komme aus australien
Aldoggen: so it probably works :)
Astrobytes: Never mind the time limit, why is your code so slow is the question you need to ask
j4at: how to e10 in c++ ?
Aldoggen: I know
Aldoggen: how do people implement flood fill? lol
Aldoggen: I'm putting strings in twodimensional arraylists
Aldoggen: that's about it
jacek: strings in array? :scream:
Aldoggen: XD
Aldoggen: strings aren't mutable, so might as well right?
j4at: well, seems like no uses C++ here
jacek: double x = e10?
j4at: e10 deez nuts
jacek: oO
HenroLST: magic
HenroLST: ...
HenroLST: jacek fix your NN
Astrobytes: exp(10)?
Astrobytes: grim joke
Aldoggen: does just e10 not work?
Astrobytes: might do
Nikanameu: when next week is chat dead
Astrobytes: never tried tbh
j4at: In python we use 1e10
Aldoggen: I looked at some random reference. seems like it should work. idk
Odins_Kin: How am I to start learning things in here if I am unsure of how to play
Aldoggen: make sure you use python3, have another tab with w3schools open, and try things out
Aldoggen: I guess
Odins_Kin: thank you
Astrobytes: 1e10 should work fine in C++
Aldoggen: Odins_Kin no problem. if you have specific questions, hit me up in chat. chat will disappear some time next week tho
Odins_Kin: how do I reach you right now then?
Aldoggen: I think j4 was just making a dees nuts joke
Aldoggen: discord I guess?
Aldoggen: or do private messages still work?
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: hence my "grim joke"
Aldoggen: ah
Astrobytes: no, all messaging will be removed
Aldoggen: sad
Aldoggen: well, there is a codingame discord server Odins_Kin
Astrobytes: can still contact people on the forum, and discord, if you don't know someones discord username just ask
Astrobytes: someone should know
Astrobytes: hopefully
Aldoggen: mine is the same on discord
Astrobytes: mine is the same middle part of my discord name
Aldoggen: welp can't find it on the CG server if you're there
j4at: Humans don't understand comedy, I guess. Alphazero can't stop laughing everytime I tell him a dees nuts joke.
krishna636: hi guys, I am new here
krishna636: where should I start from, any suggestions?
Aldoggen: j4at lol
j4at: follow this tutorial krishna636 https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
krishna636: bruh..
Nikanameu: that's why chat dying
Aldoggen: krishna636 the easy puzzles. if you don't know any programming languages, start with python. w3schools is a useful resource
Aldoggen: have fun!
krishna636: thanks Aldoggen
Nikanameu: i start on atcoder easiest way to learn
Odins_Kin: Aldoggen what's your for digit tag so I can hit you up in the discord chat
Astrobytes: Odins_Kin: join the CG discord
Astrobytes: You'll find the username easily
Aldoggen: you can @
Aldoggen: and start typing my CG name
Nikanameu: this chat so many memories i don't have :'(
Aldoggen: i'm wondering whether the CG discord will liven up once this chat dies out
Aldoggen: hey Nikanameu, I started two weeks ago. I missed almost all of it
Aldoggen: still, I already have some nice memories :)
Nikanameu: i started during contest
Astrobytes: If we make it so I guess, but so many people will not or can not move to discord
Nikanameu: looked ugly so i went away
Aldoggen: the green circle? yep
Astrobytes: the last contest Nikanameu?
Nikanameu: yes sorry
jacek: best contest ever eh
Astrobytes: it was... a difficult contest
Astrobytes: jacek :D
Aldoggen: I looked at the rules, and went to do something else
jacek: so difficult i havent bothered reading the rules
Astrobytes: the statement was kinda off
Aldoggen: miss me with that flying s
Nikanameu: i read your forum post jacek you did good
Astrobytes: he certainly did :)
Nikanameu: are you doing any other contest site jhacek
Aldoggen: I still find it funny he didn't read the rules and just crammed the inputs into... was it NN? dont' remember
Astrobytes: yeah, deep Q-learning
jacek: no. i rarely do contests for real. this one worked
Aldoggen: aah
Nikanameu: talent
Astrobytes: have you seen jaceks board game rankings on here?
Astrobytes: most of those are utilising NN
Nikanameu: i see complain no ML support
jacek: you make your own ML with blackjack and hookers
j4at: yeah, jacek was just lucky
Nikanameu: and you?
Astrobytes: it takes a little bit of manipulation to fit these things into CG-palatable input but it can be done
j4at: I didn't want to participate to give you a chance
Astrobytes: (he failed and gave up too early :D )
Aldoggen: after all, j4at is the better version of jacek
j4at: Yeah they should increase chars limit from 100k to 1m
Astrobytes: that's what clever encoding is for
Aldoggen: what limit?
j4at: Well, someone write a library bc I'm not clever enough
Astrobytes: there are scripts
Aldoggen: oh, code in the IDE?
Nikanameu: MCTS always works
Astrobytes: if you look in the chat logs I think robo shared some nice stuff, or just ask jacek or whoever
j4at: send links I'm not clever enough to use google
Nikanameu: others train bot on MCTS makes it better faster stronger
Nikanameu: jacek share nice stuff
GVART96: Hey guys is there a way to integrate codeingames with some of Jetbrains IDEs?
Astrobytes: you can use cg sync or cg local plugins (browser)
Astrobytes: they sync with the file you work on, so IDE independent
PiterYeh: did CG kill shortest CoC?
Astrobytes: updates in the CG IDE
GVART96: gonna try, ty
PiterYeh: i logged on to play "just one" shortest... but it's been 50 minutes :D
Astrobytes: no, still a thing afaik
Nikanameu: next week biggest CERN experiment maybe chat gone anyway
PiterYeh: aight... back in the queue i guess
j4at: I have 12.5 m NN. I will give whoever can fit it in CG. the secrets to survive CERN experiments
jacek: use black hole to fit your NN into several bytes
jacek: kurisu made it
HenroLST: ...
j4at: Well, the closest black hole is 1000 light years.
Astrobytes: OR IS IT
jacek: youre not weeb enough
j4at: oh steins gate
jacek: :tada:
struct: just make smaller NNs
Astrobytes: OR CAN YOU?
j4at: ladies likes it big tho
Astrobytes: OR DO THEY?
j4at: like*
Nikanameu: smaller like 1 layer perceptron no learning
Astrobytes: OR IS IT?
jacek: most my NNs have mostly 1 hidden layer, at most 2
Astrobytes: OR DO THEY?
j4at: MLP KEK
Astrobytes: Lack of Gumball appreciation here is sad
Nikanameu: all recent study show bigger is where it is at
Nikanameu: increase gpt 3 to 10x and it will look like sentient being
j4at: That's for transformers which what i'm using normally :)
j4at: But stopped bc of CG :(
Nikanameu: lies you wasn't in contest
j4at: Huh ?
struct: my SR NN is 15k chars
Astrobytes: OR IS IT
j4at: I'm 24th in the hardest contest.
j4at: Search race how dare you inult me
j4at: jk :p
Astrobytes: Or are you? Or did it?!
Astrobytes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtBEQT9Uck
j4at: Jacek you don't use GPU to train ?
jacek: im too dumb
Aldoggen: lol
j4at: Well, we all dumb that's why we should use frameworks :)
Nikanameu: nvidia cuda cores all you need to know
j4at: Kaggle offers free GPU servers :)
Astrobytes: or write your own around existing libs
j4at: tensor cores :)
Aldoggen: quantum tensor cuda hyper-omega cores
Aldoggen: I forgot to add 2000
Astrobytes: Quores
Astrobytes: (that might be a thing, I don't know)
Nikanameu: 30 hour gpu but kaggle contest need all week
j4at: My dude destroying us using only CPU. And I'm here renting RTX 3090 servers
jacek: going green
j4at: GPU are more green because a lot faster
j4at: RTX 3090 is not the most green GPU tho
Nikanameu: then why bitcoin sanctions
j4at: but I use my GTX 1080 normally
Astrobytes: depends on power consumption not speed
jacek: you went full green in last contest so you should be 1st
Nikanameu: and LHR limitations on anything lower than 3090 ?
Aldoggen: Astrobytes quores sounds too much like chores
Astrobytes: Aldoggen: lol fair point
j4at: Astrobytes it depends on powerconsumption/speed -_-
Astrobytes: naturally, but power consumption is usually higher for people using higher powered gpus because they leave them running far longer
j4at: GPUS are like x100 faster than CPUS
Astrobytes: no shit
j4at: so yeah gpus are more green
j4at: I should have gotten the first place :)
Nikanameu: then get fast car it uses almost no fuel because it goes fast
Nikanameu: no work like that
Astrobytes: lets get into production of gpus shall we? Soooooo green
j4at: bruh you can train the nn in 1 minutes instead of an hour
Nikanameu: you think small
j4at: GPUS are totally worth it :)
Astrobytes: Sure. But don't call it green.
MRBlack01: hi for all
MRBlack01: new user
MRBlack01: here
j4at: GPUS > CPUS :)
Nikanameu: j4at playing a prank nobody using gpu 1 minute
j4at: ofc no one uses a gpu for 1 minute
Nikanameu: why you think stronger computer need better power supply
Astrobytes: I'll just let that play out
j4at: Check supercomputers that uses cpus powerusage compared to GPU super computers
struct: so GPUs beat CPUs on everything?
Nikanameu: ok you solved world power problem if everyone uses super power consuming devices we use less electricity
j4at: struct nope
j4at: CPUS are smarter and offer less delay
Astrobytes: just more environmentally friendly :rofl:
j4at: GPUS are more environmentally friendly.
j4at: Imagine If OpenAI uses 50K CPU instead of 500 GPU
struct: well you are saying for NNs
j4at: imagine if miners still use cpus
Nikanameu: maybe you are onto something Quantum computers are magnitudes faster so maybe they can slow down consumption
j4at: because they started with cpus
j4at: they woudl use a lot mroe power
Nikanameu: miners do it all day
Nikanameu: nobody limits their income omg
Astrobytes: in the short term vs CPU of course they are more green and efficient, but that isn't how they are used, they are used CONSTANTLY
Astrobytes: don't see people doing that with CPUs because it's stupid
j4at: THey don't do it with CPUS because CPUS are slow
j4at: THey used to tho
Astrobytes: you are so missing the point
j4at: In ancient days of bitcoin
j4at: they used cpus
jacek: this is the most green http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html
struct: my bike is faster than my car and its more green
struct: but when it rains I get wet
Astrobytes: anyway, I'm out for tonight.
Hopefully chat is still here for us to argue tomorrow :D
Nikanameu: they used pen and paper http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html
Nikanameu: ok i am too slow
jacek: slowpoke
struct: and cuda programming is not trivial
Nikanameu: jacek mining with his pen and paper right now has link open all the time
Nikanameu: better chat gone than argue this
Nikanameu: i need use my time better omg j4at
jacek: welp you dont need cuda with tensorflow or pytorch
Aldoggen: Astrobytes gn!
j4at: pen and paper are not energy efficient don't do it Nikanameu
Nikanameu: does it make you emit green gases?
j4at: yeah you fart a lot when you do cryptography.
Aldoggen: you fart green gases O.o
Aldoggen: ?*
j4at: yeah :)
j4at: Also paper is made of wood
Aldoggen: I wanna see that
Aldoggen: I thought it was the other way around
Aldoggen: we throw away paper and trees grow out of it
j4at: You didn't watch cartoons ? Theirs farts is always green
Aldoggen: I've seen white ones too
Aldoggen: I think
Nikanameu: burning 40 years consecutively how you stop climate change? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/giant-hole-ground-has-been-fire-more-40-years-180951247/
Aldoggen: lol more than half the easy puzzles I've done were to help other people
j4at: THe should rename wood league in green circle
j4at: they*
Aldoggen: to paper league?
Aldoggen: sounds good
j4at: no, to tree league
Aldoggen: sounds fun when you're in tree three league
Aldoggen: all right I'm off for the night
Aldoggen: gn!
struct: gn
j4at: gn
HenroLST: farewelll
Sympthey: How is everyones day going thus far?
MAWAAW: good
anxiom: 'supp
Sympthey: SUo
Sympthey: Sup
anxiom: Clc ?
M0hammed: hi
hamza_hix: hello how are you
hamza_hix: ?
MonarchButterfly: og.log ={7
HenroLST: when 2*2=4 and 2^2 = 4 and 2+2=4
Job_Nuttakarn: console.log("hello world")
Gosen_Nekko: true programmers know that 2^2 = 0
HenroLST: according to darwin if we all stop sleeping we would evolve past sleeping
