Zagibest: world
MITIRIX: It's 4:49AM here
ItsNotABug: 3:12pm here
VizGhar: https://c.tenor.com/84fciXprFfsAAAAC/sassy-who-the-hell-cares.gif
PatrickMcGinnisII: 1:26am :sweat_smile:
kouin: do the leaderboards get automatically recalculated from time to time?
cegprakash: damn.. contest rank #70.. recalc rank 90. now back to rank #76
antiwonto: [auto] Hey cegprakash, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 1 tacos
cegprakash: I don't like recalc
hopee: b0b
hopee: 0
jacek: :taco: Automaton2000
antiwonto: [auto] jacek has awarded Automaton2000 10 tacos. Automaton2000 now has 71 taco. jacek now has 39 taco
Automaton2000: i have no idea how to solve the problem
Automaton2000: i dont know how i would do
Wontonimo: hello?
5DN1L: hello
Wontonimo: hey, long time since we've chatted. How was the contest for you?
raxkin: Ahh, just fixed a bug on my defense where i was not calculating correctlly the turns to reach the spider, to determine if i can kill it or if i need a backup. And also a minor bug on the farming calculations. Went from 131 to 34 lol. Sad that i found it now that contest is over :(. I could have pushed for top 20
5DN1L: first contest for me, interesting one
Wontonimo: cool you found it, sad not in time raxkin
Wontonimo: oh yeah, this would have been your virgin contest 5DN1L
5DN1L: yes
raxkin: Second one for me, and second legend too. I love this contests
Wontonimo: you got legend in Totoro (the hex farming game) ?
Wontonimo: I barely squeezed into legend Totoro. That was my first
raxkin: Yep, that was my first too. I think it was more hard than this one, to understand what was happening
raxkin: This was easy to find the problemems by looking at the replays
raxkin: Oh, there more removed users from legend? I think they said they removed 10, from 400 went to 490, but now there are 368 in legend
raxkin: from 400 to 390*
5DN1L: they're fixing the issue of incomplete import of bots
Jaoie: hi
LaurensD: it's fine like this, someone who I wanted to beat ended lower because of the import bot issue. It's a sign! keep it this way
Jaoie: #pt
raxkin: What is the impor bot issue exactlly?
5DN1L: incomplete
5DN1L: not all bots were imported
5DN1L: that's the issue
raxkin: Ah, ok
Wontonimo: it's 3am for me. gn
PatrickMcGinnisII: gn
raxkin: gn!
Jaoie: gn
PatrickMcGinnisII: It used to be you had to enter the multi and resub your code, or a variant thereof
GroutchKeu: \o
Kokoz: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/08e05f98-f184-4190-9583-eacf63b047fc
JFB: list = sorted(dict, key=lambda x: dict['Start] * 1e10 - dict['End'])
JFB: list = sorted(dict, key=lambda x: dict['Start'] * 1e10 - dict['End'])
Uljahn: :worried:
JFB: (if first post I omitted ' at the end of the 'Start')
Kokoz: I get TypeError: 'type' object is not subscriptable
JFB: Sorry my mistake:
JFB: list = sorted(dict, key=lambda x: x['Start'] * 1e10 - x['End'])
JFB: Once again I make mistake :-)
JFB: One moment :-)
Uljahn: you're using keywords as variable names :crying_cat_face:
JFB: l = sorted(dict, key=lambda x: dict[x]['Start'] * 1e10 - dict[x]['End'])
BenjaminUrquhart: pretty sure dict is also reserved
Uljahn: ^
Kokoz: It works. Thank you :3
JFB: yes, so now I used l instead of list :-) And instead of 'dict' reserved word, in ipython I tested this last post and is OK
BenjaminUrquhart: well yeah it works, that doesn't mean you should do it
Merci_A_Vie_vite_laire: List of dict of int table of hashset of list is the better way to do a good list
Uljahn: i'd use pandas dataframe
Uljahn: also i'd use key=lambda x: (my_dict[x]['Start'], -my_dict[x]['End'])
JFB: Kokaz used 'dict' as variable name in his post. So I used it in solution. Of course is better not use reserved words as variable name
BenjaminUrquhart: So my best bot for spring 2022 got ~120th silver during the contest. It's top 3 silver right now in the multi.
BenjaminUrquhart: I am in pain
Merci_A_Vie_vite_laire: never use reserved word as variable name
JFB: :-D
Merci_A_Vie_vite_laire: im dev and using reserved word as var name can be a problem to find your var or name an other var with the same type
Geras: Giving Tipps in World chat and writing profanities in De Chat. Must be fun.
JFB: I know. But if sb ask me the question is better to use in solution variables he defined in question. Letter we can discuss do question is correct and how to change it :-)
Merci_A_Vie_vite_laire: Ye real
jacek: goto is reserved in java, but no goto in java :(
JFB: :-) sb just hated 'goto' so reserved it in Java ;-)
BenjaminUrquhart: on my way to bytecode patch my variable names to reserved names in java
BenjaminUrquhart: I think there's obfuscators that do that actually
Geras: It was a feature that has been removed, there are still labels that can be used, but tbh in my 17 years as dev I have yet to encounter a "good" usage of labels. Most of the time it can be replaced by something more readable.
jacek: i hate using bools if i want to break outer loop in inner loop
JFB: BenjaminUrquhart - probably your right. It looks as good obfuscation strategy
BenjaminUrquhart: is this what we've come to https://www.codingame.com/replay/632390344
Geras: jacek if you really need to break the outer loop you can have a look at labels. I would advise against it, but the feature is out there for a quick solution.
jacek: i know of it. at work i used it only once. i use it more in kotlin
jacek: spider attack https://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2022/04/H583ytjHuIEEu2kU.mp4
BenjaminUrquhart: thank you, I needed that video
BenjaminUrquhart: looks like I'll be joining spider yeet gang then
BenjaminUrquhart: was hoping it wouldn't come to that
JFB: BenjaminUrquhart - if your hero 5 used "WIND" in step 66 - you will win
JFB: Is jus such simple
BenjaminUrquhart: you sure?
BenjaminUrquhart: I'll tell you right now it cast wind
JFB: It depend do monster 44 in in hero 5 wind range. If it is in wind range - wictory is yours
BenjaminUrquhart: doens't look like it was
BenjaminUrquhart: cause it was reacting to the opponent hero and not the spider
BenjaminUrquhart: and the opponent was pushed back
BenjaminUrquhart: just not the spider
BenjaminUrquhart: anyway I have to go for now
JFB: OK. So it is not range. So control on the one of the opponent heros in 65 will give your win
BenjaminUrquhart: I don't run a simulation to figure that out
BenjaminUrquhart: although I could maybe see about adding protection for certain cases like these
BenjaminUrquhart: I could totally just cast shield on the spider lol
BenjaminUrquhart: anyway yeah I need sleep
TheFlyingdidgeridoo: helloooooo
JFB: Any way - I use salmon strategy too so I know that your best strategy was to direct hero 5 to opponent in step 59 and following and use control na at least one of oppo heros as soon as you in range
JFB: BenjaminUrquhart
BenjaminUrquhart: meh
salmon: My bot also needs many improvements. It shouldn't kill monster 51.
tangent0: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/155918d4d47e19237e7da089ffdf51512a561
JFB: Exactly :-) I made exactly the some mistake
tangent0: please check this promp
Salticid: Is there any information about the missing entries in the Spider Attack leaderboard? Should I just resubmit, or will the remaining entries to the contest be added eventually?
BenjaminUrquhart: [CG]Thibaud — Today at 3:57 AM
there was an issue during copy. The arena is not ready yet
Salticid: Great, thank you for confirming that it's a known issue. :)
salmon: ups, I've resubmitted
JFB: And BenjaminUrquhart - it looks that your bots "think" that 38 is the danger to your base. It is not. But probably input data, wrongly, say that it is. Input data state that monster will reach a base - but it is not.
BenjaminUrquhart: which frame
BenjaminUrquhart: nvm I see it
JFB: 64 and following
Maxyme_Bonvent: Hello, World
JFB: salmon - so when you resubmited your bots - you received points promotion in the game, right?
salmon: right
BenjaminUrquhart: @JFB that doesn't seem to be the case, I think it goes for it because I don't check if it will exit the arena before targeting
JFB: If your bot will be automatically copied to the game from contest - you will not receive such points , so resubmition was good move :-)
salmon: I did not know that :D
tangent0: System.out.println(res.substring(0, res.length()-1));
BenjaminUrquhart: nice
BenjaminUrquhart: anyway I need to depart for real
JFB: :-)
Maxyme_Bonvent: good bye !
BenjaminUrquhart: I shall become one with the yeet probably tomorrow
Ayza: taco
antiwonto: [auto] Hey Ayza, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 4 tacos
j4at: taco
j4at: :(
5DN1L: You don't get taco that way
5DN1L: You have to wait a bit longer :P
5DN1L: I think it's 30 minutes of inactivity
j4at: okay, thank you :)
5DN1L: np :wink:
jacek: :upside_down:
antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '
j4at: (:
j4at: :upside_down:
antiwonto: [auto] ':upside_down:' was defined as ' ɥǝllo '
VictoriousTriceraton: Greetings everyone! Can somebody check my contribution for approval, please? I need one more approve to publish puzzle.
https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/15724a523198e6b0a7d9f50c5c42e08b3b7cf
Geras: I can't approve, but as a little note, in your Goal section you seperate the "-" and "|" with a slash, and in the next line you seperate with a comma, which makes it hard to read, at least for me.
5DN1L: You may leave a comment there
Geras: Will do, thanks for the hint.
5DN1L: :)
Brawler_zx: Hi everyone, if anyone plays ctf can you tell me if this link is ok to use or not?
https://ez.ctf.cafe/
Brawler_zx: I am new and found it on ctftime.org
5DN1L: I don't think it's appropriate to ask here
Brawler_zx: I understand
simonrp.ing: I need help learning python. any websites where I can go and learn?
5DN1L: check out this post:
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/how-do-i-learn-python-from-this-website/30614/
jacek: https://www.britannica.com/animal/snake
5DN1L: #ophiology
cagriy: hello from istanbul
5DN1L: Latest announcement from Thibaud: https://forum.codingame.com/t/spider-attack-spring-challenge-2022-puzzle-discussion/195823/4
DattBoii: hi
DattBoii: :joy::grinning:
5DN1L: hi, glad you're happy
StevenV: hello guys
Murat_Eroglu: Gebze is not in Istanbul Çağrı :D
Ayza: can a mod look at jaoie's comment lol
Ayza: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7476db3586ad73ae3abf00db5c272f33e402
yhyoxx: ...
5DN1L: ok, deleted, thanks for reporting
jacek: oO
eulerscheZahl: mods #de
Zigounetta: sou fuck my wife ?
antiwonto: [auto] Zigounetta be respectful and watch your language
https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
eulerscheZahl: yes, this user
eulerscheZahl: but he's more creative in German
Geras: In a sense, yes.
Uljahn: done
EkipEkip: La masturbation dela bitta !
yiermu: Difficult
Geras: Well, no sleep for the mods today.
Ayza: seems like the case
Ayza: too many troll accounts
jacek: :neutral_face:
eulerscheZahl: banning is still faster than creating a new account. but more spammers than mods
Uljahn: guess CG should hire full time mods, not just some volunteers :disappointed:
jacek: if (i != action) continue;
errors[i] = gamma * qmax + reward - ops[i];
jacek: :rage:
eulerscheZahl: it's easier to simply remove the chat. so let's not complain
eulerscheZahl: i'd rather yell for mods a few times than lose it completely
struct: Ill just make a script to ban them from all chats instead
j4at: Trolls are not doing any significant damage tho.
jacek: :blush:
Westicles: I wonder if I give them an invite I'll get that influencer badge
Westicles: achievement
Q12: Uljahn You can automate this process by checking every message for curse and then warn the user, and if he curse again then automatically ban him
jacek: balls
jacek: oh
j4at: Auto ban is dangerous
j4at: auto mute instead ?
eulerscheZahl: there is no mute
j4at: add it ?
Q12: not if you warn him once j4at
eulerscheZahl: there is kick which lets you come back on page reload
struct: I dont warn new accounts
struct: sorry
eulerscheZahl: adding features to the chat? that's absolutely ludicrous
struct: Especially when its obvious
j4at: haha
Westicles: seems like the euros are less uptight about swearing than the NA mods
struct: I dont mind swearing
struct: But this is worse than that
Snef: they are commenting on forum now that they are banend from chat
Snef: banned*
eulerscheZahl: can't find it, deleted on forum already?
struct: I cant see it either
eulerscheZahl: really forum? or discord or such?
struct: I dont see anything in any of them
struct: Forum has auto moderation though
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: i delete this pc
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: how to get it back
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: i think my laptop is vani...
jrke: i like this https://prnt.sc/8KnUc7DxfYEu
jrke: :grinning:
eulerscheZahl: but you get the red moderation symbol in that case
Snef: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7476db3586ad73ae3abf00db5c272f33e402
Snef: Here eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: oh, that's the contribution comments. not a forum
Snef: true
eulerscheZahl: only those with 300+ clashes can delete thre
Astrobytes: they did that before
Astrobytes: 5D sorted it
Astrobytes: apparently these people are quite persistent
eulerscheZahl: even robin hood got bored and gave up
eulerscheZahl: even MK
Astrobytes: lol, MK still pops up on the discord every so often
Astrobytes: on here, less so
eulerscheZahl: i'm immune to discord
Astrobytes: you're in harmony with discord?
eulerscheZahl: just the CG discord annoyed me. when a message gets deleted, it still shows an unread and won't disappear without a lot of random clicking
Astrobytes: that's a discord problem in general tbh
eulerscheZahl: but CG discord has the spamming problem
Astrobytes: Yeah. I still only have external contests unmuted so not an issue
Astrobytes: well, other than during the contest
eulerscheZahl: any comments on that channel that are worth reading?
Astrobytes: Nope.
eulerscheZahl: see, i did the right thing
Astrobytes: I would have relayed them by now ;)
struct: oh no I need 300 clashes :(
Astrobytes: I thought you did that?
eulerscheZahl: Tobou has 2000 or so
struct: :)
Westicles: rockstar had problems getting more email accounts. he said they wouldn't accept his phone number any more
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/771ef189-ba7a-41c4-868a-ea5e944872ff
eulerscheZahl: CG doesn't even have email verification. you can just enter any email that you make up on the spot
eulerscheZahl: bonus points for using one of your "friend" and then reaching puzzle moderator status
j4at: What are the libraries installed in python.
j4at: ?
Uljahn: numpy, scipy, pandas
j4at: ty :)
Uljahn: j4at: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/languages-versions
IvesL: i would say its not correct
IvesL: it also includes datetime, sys, math
j4at: those are builtin
IvesL: oh
eulerscheZahl: perl libraries :D
List::Util, List::MoreUtils
IvesL: do you guys know the shortest way to have all inputs in a list in python?
IvesL: like a = input(), b= input(), l =[a,b]
eulerscheZahl: isn't there a file containing the input?
Westicles: open(0) ?
IvesL: i remember i see someone omitting the "input()"
wlesavo: arr = [input() for i in range(2)]
eulerscheZahl: but what if the number of lines is dynamic?
j4at: a,b=open(0)
j4at: works with dynamic number of lines
IvesL: yea should be sth with open
wlesavo: in range(dynamic_n) :smiley:
Uljahn: also i=input;a=i();b=i()
eulerscheZahl: i('answer')
Uljahn: yep
j4at: i=input is only useful when you use 3 or more times
CasualCoder123: remember, string d = cde.substring(1, 2);
j4at: you can use input to print too. But will block you can use only for the last print
CasualCoder123: the output will change depending on your last imput
IvesL: it is usually a problem to me in shortest mode
CasualCoder123: huh
IvesL: for multiple inputs like int(input())
CasualCoder123: copy and paste
IvesL: what i can do is just I=int, N=input, I(N())
CasualCoder123: yup.
IvesL: until i see someone using like open in a one liner
IvesL: even shorter
IvesL: but i forgot how he did that
Westicles: wow, look at all the guys with double xp/cp on the missing accounts
mehdilhy: Is is possible to customize custom clash of codes parties
mehdilhy: the exercices part
eulerscheZahl: what do you mean by "customize"?
IvesL: hover over clash of code, top right corner 3dots -> launch a private clash
mehdilhy: I know there are some exercices that are made by codingame stuff , besite the community exercices
mehdilhy: they have black color in them
mehdilhy: And they are easier to solve and can be translated depending on the language choosen in the website
mehdilhy: so is it possible to only have those kind of exercices in a private clash ?
eulerscheZahl: are they really by staff and not just old?
eulerscheZahl: i'm not aware of such a feature to select the task
mehdilhy: Yes that's what i see ...
mehdilhy: thank you anyways
mehdilhy: have an amazing day !
StevenV: hello guys, which language should I learn for code of clash?
Wontonimo: one that you like. seriously.
Wontonimo: don't play clash to get highest on clash. play it to practice your language of choice
Wontonimo: then start doing puzzles https://www.codingame.com/training and multis https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming instead
StevenV: thanks
struct: Wood leagues demotivate me :/
Wontonimo: wdym struct?
struct: I have to write code that is not final
struct: and then adapt
struct: due to rules change
Wontonimo: yeah, i had to do that also
Wontonimo: get to bronze just by sorting bugs and attacking the closest
Wontonimo: then you'll have all your powers back
struct: im trying coif
struct: code of ice and fire
Wontonimo: oh, what? you were thrown back to wood in ice and fire?
struct: no
struct: I just never played it
struct: I think
Wontonimo: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Wontonimo: haha
struct: It should take me a while though
IvesL: @StevenV i think you are good enough fo clashes, just play if you want to
struct: I never used bitboards bigger than 64 bits
IvesL: not just enough tbh, but should be very good
jacek: you can cheat by using _int128_t
struct: but its 144 bits
struct: :)
struct: :( *
jacek: then make/find custom int256_t
struct: o.o
jacek: i think i saw bitboard gomoku 19x19
jacek: https://github.com/wwatkins42/gomoku/blob/master/src/BitBoard.cpp
struct: nice, thanks
StevenV: do I need bitboard for fall2020?
struct: is that pac man?
StevenV: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/fall-challenge-2020
StevenV: i don't know it real name
struct: Well you can use them for some stuff
struct: But i would not call it bitboard
StevenV: will a standard MCTS can make me Legend
struct: no idea
struct: I used a wrong implementation of Beam search and that got me legend
struct: I think my implementation makes a bit of sense though
StevenV: thanks
StevenV: I will try standard MCTS at weekend
StevenV: fall2020 is the first contest on CG for me, so I really want to be in legend for it
jacek: have you dont MCTS before?
jacek: its simultaneous moves game, may not be good for first MCTS. though there is not much interaction between players there
Wontonimo: hey StevenV , the discussion https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/spring-challenge-2020/discuss and postmortem https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/spring-challenge-2020-feedback-strategy/184113/15 talk a lot about beam search working well for this
Wontonimo: if you want to practice MCTS, I'd recommend Ultimate Tic Tac Toe
struct: connect 4 is the best for mcts
jacek: Wontonimo thats spring challenge
struct: imo
struct: easiest to sim
jacek: lostonimo
struct: on breakthrough it might work but its harder to have success with it
Wontonimo: oh ... so sorry
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/fall-challenge-2020/discuss
Wontonimo: and https://forum.codingame.com/t/fall-challenge-2020-feedbacks-strategies/187846/2
Wontonimo: same thought, it's beam search also
CasualCoder123: string d = cde.substring(1, 2);
jacek: :scream:
waterproofsodium: how do i abort and still see other players solutions?
jacek: just send broken/incomplete solution
waterproofsodium: thanks I did
jacek: :tada:
jacek: well you cant leave clash unpunished. youll lose rank anyway
waterproofsodium: why is this so fun? :>
waterproofsodium: must be the excitement of competitiveness
waterproofsodium: gotta enjoy before it becomes stress
jacek: clashes? fun? oO
Spenwata: lol ^
Spenwata: same
struct: Its fun until you play 3k of them
NewCoder09: dang
waterproofsodium: that's basically what I said :D
waterproofsodium: also does it just need 3k to get good? :P
Husoski: According to folklore, it takes 10,000 hours to become a master at anything.
waterproofsodium: great. I'll start learning telekinesis today
Hack_kings: hello
Link_jon: hai
Husoski: Good...talk to you in 10k hours! :)
VirtualRealityRocks: *at least 10,000 hours
Link_jon: wait so whats the max
Link_jon: 1m?
waterproofsodium: btw did anyone here get a job from this? just by being good, not by being excellent
VirtualRealityRocks: The max is infinity
DeadlyPyke: hi
waterproofsodium: NOOOOOOOOOO
DeadlyPyke: how do i start ultimate tic tac toe
DeadlyPyke: i'm a bit confused :[
waterproofsodium: I beat 150% almost
waterproofsodium: 4 sec :O
waterproofsodium: 150th
VizGhar: DeadlyPyke why uttt? you pretty much have to simulate whole game in order to make it work
waterproofsodium: this just became stress :(
DeadlyPyke: so what kind of ttt should i do?
jacek: wood league of uttt is normal tic tac toe
DeadlyPyke: how do i start?
DeadlyPyke: :|
DeadlyPyke: it's confusing to me
Uljahn: start by learning the basics of a language of your choice
DeadlyPyke: already done that
DeadlyPyke: c#
DeadlyPyke: what I'm confused about are the turns?
DeadlyPyke: how do i explain this
DeadlyPyke: um
Uljahn: solve some easy puzzles with hints, like Power of Thor episode 1
DeadlyPyke: ok
DeadlyPyke: thanks
jacek: so you are confused about input/output and while loop
DeadlyPyke: pretty much
DeadlyPyke: like how do i use opponentRow and opponentCol variable
DeadlyPyke: if the grid was a table
DeadlyPyke: would it be 1 on top left
DeadlyPyke: and then 2 and then 3
DeadlyPyke: ?
Uljahn: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/turn-based-coding-games
jacek: yes, but it starts from 0
jacek: so 0 0 is opponent made move (X or O) in left top cell
DeadlyPyke: ah ok
DeadlyPyke: so it's 0 1 2
struct: short games
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/632597098
struct: ...
Link_jon: 1,890 turns is short?
struct: sorry sarcasm
jacek: 189
struct: my bot is just rand() % actions.size()
VizGhar: OK guys... I want to successfully implement MCTS. It doesnt have to necesarilly be something on CG. I failed with UTTT, so I want something small just to play with it
Link_jon: ... w... wuht...
noValve: hey guys
noValve: hyd?
struct: VizGhar I first did it with normal TTT
struct: Because you can fully solve it there
VizGhar: tnx
jacek: connect 4? breakthrough?
struct: There are like 500k states+-
jacek: :notebook: :soccer:?
jacek: at most 19683 states or 362880 game tree
struct: Yes and no
Link_jon: 5-- erm. mhm okay... cant you shrink skope down to small scenarios. like looking at only 9 cells at a time in all areas; like how one would in minesweeper?
Link_jon: scope*
struct: I think that is with symmetry jacek
jacek: its upper limit with impossible states. 3^9 and 9!
struct: 549945 positions
struct: my minimax with no pruning
jacek: and per https://github.com/jdermont/tictactoe-ntuple/blob/main/README.md there are 5478 legal positions
struct: You can see articles mentioning this number
jacek: wtf
jacek: https://stackoverflow.com/a/4176481/3122936
jacek: hmm, but at most you can get 9! moves
BuggyAl: can you retake a certification test if you fail it?
Uljahn: yes
BuggyAl: k ty
struct: idk jacek
VizGhar: https://xkcd.com/832/
VizGhar: just take a pen and have a nice weekend :D
LaurensD: :angry: it's thursday still got a day to work :upside_down:
jacek: oh my
Quidome: struct are you working on ice and fire? I just got into wood2
Quidome: hm you are promoting from wood 2 at the moment
Quidome: nice :)
CasualCoder123: string d = cde.substring(1, 2);
ethaneCH3CH3: https://bit.ly/38U2cpU
Tuo: ice and fire? there is another competition going on?
ethaneCH3CH3: Help me to look at my code please:
https://bit.ly/38U2cpU
Tuo: need more content bad!
Quidome: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/a-code-of-ice-and-fire
Quidome: wanna join?
Tuo: yes!
ethaneCH3CH3: Hello anyone?
https://bit.ly/38U2cpU
5DN1L: yes, I've kciked you
5DN1L: kicked*
5DN1L: don't spam please
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
struct: Quidome yes I am
struct: also gonna get promoted from wood 1 wtihout touching my code
struct: :p
LaurensD: justice has been served
Quidome: yes, nice, I was a little bit to early got kicked by you
struct: It seems like an interesting game
Quidome: do a resubmit now probably enough
Quidome: looks good indeed
Quidome: I mean the game, it is interesting
struct: yeah I understood
Quidome: the legend guys seems to have the same strategy
struct: Havent watched them yet
struct: I dont even know how to code a bot for this
Quidome: collect enough gold and launch a one turn attack
Quidome: that looks a little bit buggy to me in son't know al te=he rules yet maybe there is a reasonable defense
Quidome: (I don't know all the rules yet)
struct: Yeah this is why I wanted to skip wood
struct: but its not possible
struct: I just coded a monte carlo instead
waterproofsodium: how do you increase your rank?
struct: waterproofsodium play anything on the compete tab
waterproofsodium: doesnt involve clash?
Quidome: You used MC to get into wood 1
struct: clashes have a limit of 5k points
Quidome: ?
struct: To get bronze I guess
struct: Im getting promoted again
Quidome: Ir looks like heuristics is doing it for this game
waterproofsodium: hm clash is in compete tab
waterproofsodium: but I won some and my rank doesnt go up
struct: rank updates once a day
Quidome: just like the last spring challenge
waterproofsodium: i see
struct: Maybe
struct: Maybe its a mix of both
struct: search + heuristics
Quidome: there is already search for one move
Quidome: spend all your gold and see where it get's you
struct: brb
Quidome: yep I am gonna be promoted as well :)
Synergyforge: I can't ever seem to really get search algos to click in my head. :( I'm not a real dev.
5DN1L: Try double-click?
Synergyforge: hurda-hurda
waterproofsodium: my pod racer so pro
jacek: :tada:
jacek: is ti mad
jzen: ice ten food
waterproofsodium: oh getting bellow place 1k with podracer :D
DeadlyPyke: hey i have a question
DeadlyPyke: is it randomly decided who starts in uttt arena?
CasualCoder123: string d = cde.substring(1, 2); duh
5DN1L: no spam please CasualCoder123
5DN1L: you post that again and i'll kick you out
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
DeadlyPyke: 👀
CasualCoder123: um
Quidome: jacek are you active playing ice and fire atm
Quidome: ?
CasualCoder123: how is that a scam?
CasualCoder123: thats just an active string
jzen: *spam
CasualCoder123: haha thanks
Quidome: struct just entered bronze :) I am almost there
struct: nice
CasualCoder123: niiice
5DN1L: you've repeated that "string d" line a few times, CasualCoder123, that counts as a spam
Link_jon: okay im completely confused as to what is going wrong
Link_jon: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ff650853-47f6-405c-a9bc-dc2a3ac4e901
Link_jon: someone else look at this
Link_jon: cuz ive been looking at it for the past hour lul
Link_jon: Notably the for loop to setup the players.set tables from the winners is probably whats going wrong but i cant tell
struct: Maybe ill get silver Quidome
struct: :p
Quidome: that would be cool, just entered brinze
DeadlyPyke: what does the validActionCount variable do exactly in uttt?
Quidome: I see you are already above the boss, nice!
Quidome: going smooth for you!
struct: number of valid actions
DeadlyPyke: so like, if i put down an x and then the opponent put down an o,
since there's 7 box left validationcount gonna be equal to 2?
DeadlyPyke: 7?*
struct: yes
struct: but on later game it is not normal tic tac toe anymore
struct: thats why it can be usefull
waterproofsodium: i got too tired to solve any problems now
waterproofsodium: i hate this :p
Meep1307: :tired_face:
Quidome: come on struct get out, I am already at position 2
Quidome: And above the boss :grinning:
PatrickMcGinnisII: what lang is that Link_jon?
natorius6: taco
struct: Quidome are you using heuristics?
Quidome: yep
Quidome: only
Quidome: a very greedy one
Quidome: hm I am getting to tired, have to stop I am breaking stuff now
wlesavo: oh you doing coif
wlesavo: legend is quite hard there
Quidome: it was easy sailing to silver
Quidome: 4 hours or something
wlesavo: i think for legend you need at least some variation of fatality and/or some good cuts
Quidome: what do you mean by that?
struct: mine is just MC on unfinished sim
struct: 100 iterations
struct: or something
wlesavo: Quidome deep lines to enemy base
wlesavo: in single turn
Quidome: aha, yes i observed that behaviour
Quidome: not there yet :)
struct: do you use bitboards wlesavo?
Quidome: can you defend against that strategy
wlesavo: but the stable defence is more important i think, the finisher itself is easy
wlesavo: struct no, i had some python heuristics with simple searches for fatality etc
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wlesavo: Quidome you can delay it while preparing your own attack
Quidome: With towers?
Quidome: just got those rules gonna look tomorrow
wlesavo: you probably need to check finishers for your opponent as well, and build towers on this route
Quidome: aha yes, thnxs
wlesavo: but the game is quite deep
Quidome: Because of the one turn long attack I was wondering if it was a broken game
struct: So I cant get legend with rand? o.o
Quidome: OK, now nicely above the bronze boss, just have to wait...
Quidome: fixed a minor bug :P
wlesavo: struct i think just mc is not enough, but it could be good for general strategy, idk
lesageduvillage: hello guys, i have a technical interview tommorow for an internship what is the best exercice to perfect my c skills ?
wlesavo: struct are you doing multiple builds in one turn in MC im not sure how would i include that type of moves
struct: My MC only knows wood 2 rules
struct: so no building
Quidome: OK, I am in silver also
Quidome: continue tomorrow
Quidome: good night
wlesavo: gn
Angers: what is a good step after mad pod racing (silver) for another activity for a somewhat noob? Every one I look at seems to start with so much it's a bit overwhelming
struct: try some board game
VizGhar: I'd recommend learning BFS on any puzzle
MrAnderson: Cyborg Uprising has a pretty low barrier to entry
waterproofsodium: pod racer fine tuned xD
waterproofsodium: making it slowing down before the next checkpoint depending on speed and distance
waterproofsodium: don't know what else can be improved with the current data
jacek: bronze?
waterproofsodium: wood
jacek: angle < -90 or > 90 trick?
waterproofsodium: it seems a bit pointless. I already feel I'm a cheap neural network
waterproofsodium: that was the thing I added the first 5 min
waterproofsodium: then did Sqrt on it to give it more spicyness
waterproofsodium: hm seem to get on place 5 now xD
waterproofsodium: idk what temporary places mean, it shows place 2 now tho lol
jacek: it still calculating fights
waterproofsodium: still wondering why it pushes me up to low ranks tho
waterproofsodium: last time I got from 1000 back to over 2000
waterproofsodium: hey jacek how did you get out of low leagues?
waterproofsodium: I have no idea for any other optimization. I told you all 3 things I am doing. also boost seems to always work great
jacek: waterproofsodium youre above the boss in ranking. wait till it finishes battles in arena and it will promote you
waterproofsodium: sure sure
jacek: there is only 1 boost available. you want to use it when you are far from checkpoint
waterproofsodium: I'm just curious how low leagues already requires 3 optimizations
waterproofsodium: yeah i mean.. that's exactly how i did it
waterproofsodium: far away and at right angle < 10 degrees
waterproofsodium: but
waterproofsodium: that's 4 optimizations already
waterproofsodium: in "wood league"
7Adieu: do you guys have very long time to wait when you submit for IA races ?
waterproofsodium: I feel like I may have missed something because I required 4 optimizations to get out of wood league
jacek: and youre in bronze :tada:
waterproofsodium: yes yes ty
waterproofsodium: still tell me wether I have missed something? xD
jacek: 7Adieu you jsut have to wait to finish all the battles
jacek: depending on game it can be 90 to 200
jacek: waterproofsodium you can try fiddling with thrust depending on distance
waterproofsodium: again. I did that already
jacek: there is also a trick: print target checkpoint - 3 * velocity of your pod
waterproofsodium: so counting 4 optimizations in total
waterproofsodium: what's the criteria to get to next league?
jacek: be above the boss in leadeboard ^_^
waterproofsodium: what's the criteria to be above rank x in leaderboard? :)
waterproofsodium: probably some score based on win/loss?
jacek: its trueskill algorithm. if youre familiar with elo system, this is something similar
waterproofsodium: i'm even familiar with trueskill
jacek: you get more point if you win vs higher player
jacek: oh my
struct: o.o
waterproofsodium: ok so ig next optimization would be to try to kick other players out of the game with boost :>
waterproofsodium: cause I can think of nothing else
waterproofsodium: it'd be also possible to map the race once one lap is done tho
waterproofsodium: and work intelligently with that
struct: yes
struct: you should do that
struct: on later leagues all checkpoints are given at the start
waterproofsodium: hm wait
waterproofsodium: I should do excess work now?
struct: well if you do it
struct: you get promoted to silver
struct: or you can just use checkpoint_x - 3 * vx
waterproofsodium: yeah but it is annoying to do
struct: So you get gold and then code the sim from there
struct: If thats what you are interested in
struct: if you keep track of velocity you can do this
waterproofsodium: strange this formula shall work
waterproofsodium: where does it come from?
waterproofsodium: forum?
struct: I saw it on chat
struct: and its mentioned a lot
waterproofsodium: maybe that's why I need for optimizations to get out of wood ..
waterproofsodium: *four
waterproofsodium: btw I already had vel in place
waterproofsodium: I used it to slow down before reaching the cp
struct: for wood you only need to follow the tutorial
struct: also for some reason -3vx cant beat wood2 or wood1 boss
struct: cant remeber which
waterproofsodium: I wouldn't have guessed that changing the target position would have any relevance without knowing the next next cp position
waterproofsodium: huh?
waterproofsodium: the formula gets you past bronze
waterproofsodium: but not out of wood?
waterproofsodium: that is very strange
struct: yes
waterproofsodium: maybe it bumps into you at every curve
waterproofsodium: one did that 3 times in a race to me
PatrickMcGinnisII: sumbitch... working on Sliding Maze Puzzle... everything works up until testcase 4 189 steps....at Depth 12 of BFS...I'm missing a valid player move and don't have a big enough log file:rage:
struct: even locally PatrickMcGinnisII?
PatrickMcGinnisII: nah didn't move it locally yet, i figured out a way to track it ... but I have to check every depth 11 gamestate
PatrickMcGinnisII: at least there's only 23 of them
waterproofsodium: to be good at pod racer I figured social engineering is my best bet
PatrickMcGinnisII: Imma go mow the lawn or something, glhf
waterproofsodium: does someone have email of current #1 rank?
waterproofsodium: wanna ask for some code :p
struct: top 4 is NN
waterproofsodium: why do I do clash of code at 1 am
waterproofsodium: i got first yay
HenroLST: hi
struct: hi
gearhead: hello
fcil: hiii
waterproofsodium: so a test didn't work although I had exactly correct output
waterproofsodium: how can that happen..
waterproofsodium: output was
waterproofsodium: 1 2 3
waterproofsodium: 2 2 3
fcil: hmmm
waterproofsodium: found:2 2 3\n
waterproofsodium: expected: Nothing
HenroLST: ah
HenroLST: the \n
HenroLST: probably didnt want it?
waterproofsodium: that's nice for the test
waterproofsodium: but that's kinda the tests failure
HenroLST: hey i found you
waterproofsodium: aha
waterproofsodium: hm
antiwonto: [auto] Hey waterproofsodium, here is a :taco: for loggin in today while it is quiet. You now have 1 tacos
waterproofsodium: gimme more
waterproofsodium: I'm already top 3% with 12k score? :D
ycsvenom: it's easy to get that from the first 6 hours
try to get 6k or less :smiley:
waterproofsodium: hrmpf
waterproofsodium: define "easy"
waterproofsodium: I would bet to you that if I find 10 random people on the street 8 would not be able to achieve that in 6 hours lol
ycsvenom: lmgtfu "defemination of easy"
Westicles: lmgtfy a b
antiwonto: [auto] try 'lmgtfy [username] search'
waterproofsodium: hm
waterproofsodium: seriously how "easy"
waterproofsodium: are you talking about people who were programming for years before?
waterproofsodium: and if this is easy what is the difficult part?
Westicles: im14andthisisdeep
waterproofsodium: :)
waterproofsodium: btw I'm just asking to plan ahead
ycsvenom: i am saying you got to 12k because all people are just registering and don't bother to come back
ycsvenom: that easy
ycsvenom: i am just saying to keep going up
and never gone down
waterproofsodium: :thumbsup:
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DEV-thien: pascal <(")
LongDepTraiYeuRatNhieuEm: new knowledge
RivalRickson: hi
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RivalRickson: haha
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