icecream17: why was troll vs castles refused?
VizGhar: It was? thanks god
VizGhar: But i believe it wasnt refused
VizGhar: There is 30 day period after which contributions are automatically pulled back
icecream17: codingame.com/contribute/view/507070b7925f661e2d2835c14f950b9d157e
icecream17: it says "Refused" after "5,523 views"
VizGhar: yeah...but it wasn't rejected
VizGhar: I hate this contribution in particular. The main reason is, its there without any change for a year. maybe more
icecream17: interestingly, pb4 commented "hey jbm_, your game has a bug"
icecream17: "description: I'm not first anymore"
icecream17: and the response was "which private key are you currently using?"
icecream17: so i wonder...
VizGhar: its 11m ago :)
eulerscheZahl: "I hate this contribution in particular. The main reason is, its there without any change for a year. maybe more"
i instantly knew, which one
eulerscheZahl: 508 upvotes. that's more XP than creating a community contest. and then winning it
icecream17: it's so simple but so interesting
eulerscheZahl: but camping on the contributions page since May 2020?
icecream17: woah, illedan's error report's stack trace has the class "GodModeManager"
icecream17: quote: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ff504f6f-ad22-4b82-b776-70609dca5be9
icecream17: oh i didn't work
eulerscheZahl: which game?
eulerscheZahl: it did work, i got the error message
icecream17: https://imgur.com/a/1PqCQbi
icecream17: and its called "👺 TROLL VS 🏯 CASTLES 🏰"
eulerscheZahl: aah. he reported it. not a bug in one of his games
icecream17: wow the emojis
**eulerscheZahl hates emojis in titles
VizGhar: so cool :D
eulerscheZahl: also breaks the bot which create forum threads for new puzzles
VizGhar: genz loves it
icecream17: i'm going to try to figure out what the godmodemanager is
eulerscheZahl: GodModeManager sounds like JBM's humor
eulerscheZahl: https://projects.haykranen.nl/java/
VizGhar: hmm I'd at least change the package name... It looked like it crashes on CG side :P
MAWAAW: DispatcherPublisherModelConsumerWatcherSetterTagProxyDescriptorTagTagParameterMethodFieldFilterObserverTestReponseParameterIdentifierPredicateAnnotationFacadeStrategyListExpressionAttributeClientInfoBeanPrinterOrderProxyTestsUtilsAdvisorConfigurationAnnotationDatabaseInstanceMapAspectMultipartDefinition
MAWAAW: this challenge make me hill https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/codingame-sponsored-contest
VizGhar: oh... that challenge is perfect :)
icecream17: i got 5173/14617 with just math.random
eulerscheZahl: but you have no idea what the game is about
eulerscheZahl: there are just a lot of people who were similarly clueless while submitting
MAWAAW: I'm trying hard to understand
icecream17: yeah i have a bunch of clueless statistical problems from past me
icecream17: woah
icecream17: https://imgur.com/a/1PqCQbi
MAWAAW: :/
VizGhar: MAWAAW I have realized what was going on by 1. working only on one testcase 2. observing how input changes if I output only one character in game turn
VizGhar: If the input won't change, then I've probably done something that didn't change the game
VizGhar: seeing you are already lvl12 you can crack it in 2-3hours :D
VizGhar: And after that comes the optimization
AproG: Yo
AproG: How are y'all doing
martinpapa69: :thumbsup:
jacek: happy Caturday
martinpapa69: :cat:
martinpapa69: after playing for a week with rust on thing i dont understand. why would anyone start a project in c++, when there is rust:thinking: im a rust fanboy now
jacek: :scream:
ilf: some problems here are unfair, and python always has advantages
Thorcode: nah
ImSeaFu: what do you mean?
Thorcode: you say that bc you only play "clash" i think
ImSeaFu: I mean python is a powerful language so it's going to have advantages for certain cases
Thorcode: my prediction is right XD
jacek: try bot programming in python ~
soutenu: you could say the same thing about Go since the std has some very specific stuff too
Thorcode: bot programming c++ player just like got all the 100th places
VizGhar: either perfect heuristic or neural nets can get you to top with python in bot programming
ilf: ok
im from cp and c++ always the boss
maybe this place is not for me
VizGhar: there is no way you will win those using python and optimization/search algos
VizGhar: ilf why not? You can still learn a lot here
Thorcode: why ddon't you try puzzle or something else ilf
ilf: let me see
jacek: like the descent, temperatures, power of thor
VilBoub_junior: hello, if you can go and have a look and give me your opinion please : https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/826638b7b9158e5811c9786317e8419bb6d1
eulerscheZahl: are you somehow related to the big VilBoub?
StraumliPerversion: his student
eulerscheZahl: = 1+2+4 = 6 <= 15, the king has enough gold coins
eulerscheZahl: the math does not add up (pun intended)
Thorcode: how can i be VilBoub student?
Thorcode: lmao this is a rlly ez puzzle XD
Thorcode: it could be shortest and maybe more hint to be reverse i think
Thorcode: hey eulerscheZahl will you join this spring?
eulerscheZahl: very likely, yes
jacek: :tada:
Shivzee: Lmfao
Shivzee: reactjs op
Shivzee: Bots everywhere
5DN1L: Automaton2000 can you see other bots around you?
Automaton2000: seems to work i think
StraumliPerversion: did they put the kibosh on the tacos?
StraumliPerversion: did squid delete his account, or banned?
darkhorse64: he sure went too far, banning me from discord, posting dubious links in his profile
StraumliPerversion: maybe, but we all have a bad day now and then
eulerscheZahl: his day lasted for months already
darkhorse64: posting dubious links for weeks and weeks is not what I call a bad day. We don't know how it went with tibo
StraumliPerversion: oh, I don't go on discord
wlesavo: may i have an example of dubious link? :slight_smile:
eulerscheZahl: "corona = not that bad" mostly
StraumliPerversion: :thinking:
eulerscheZahl: and you get some visibility as moderator of a discord with 10k users. especially if your name starts with an "A"
eulerscheZahl: and apparently also something about Ukraine vs Russia, haven't seen that one myself
darkhorse64: I have seen even worse but I don't want to enter that debate. The point is that CG should be free of that
StraumliPerversion: :zipper_mouth: :sweat:
darkhorse64: so that it stays a friendly place for everyone
eulerscheZahl: now he's gone. and gave us names like "mad pod racing" as a final gift
5DN1L: Thibaud made this announcement on Discord:
5DN1L: Hello everyone, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/94e26517-5899-4a94-9246-affb41a53de7
darkhorse64: Did he send some #% names in PMs ?
eulerscheZahl: do you mean "Mad pod racing", "broomstick flyers", ...?
thibaud asked for suggestions on mods channel
StraumliPerversion: Weird that they killed his CP.
eulerscheZahl: no idea. maybe he deleted himself
eulerscheZahl: i admit reliability for "Death first search"
5DN1L: responsibility?
eulerscheZahl: that
darkhorse64: OK, I did not get what you mean in the first place
ImSeaFu: I don't get what anyone means so don't feel bad xD
struct: I doubt they deleted his account
struct: He left the discord by himself, nobody kicked him
eulerscheZahl: i also tend to think it was squid himself. but i don't know
struct: https://www.codingame.com/profile/e9c83cc4767eb16667a33d90907479d08093402
struct: This is normal for when you delete the account
ImSeaFu: that's a lot of awards
eulerscheZahl: don't let that fool oyu
eulerscheZahl: you
ImSeaFu: but I'm new, and therefore gullible
darkhorse64: smart player indeed
5DN1L: ImSeaFu have you chosen your next bot programming game?
ImSeaFu: no, I don't understand any of these xD
5DN1L: Why not?
5DN1L: What seems to be the issue?
ImSeaFu: I mean a big issue is I just don't understand where to even begin as far as coming up with a strategy. But also just like understanding what I can do or what I SHOULD do
5DN1L: Which games have you considered so far
ImSeaFu: Cyborg Uprising, Uhhh the tree planting one, and Mad Max
5DN1L: Be warned though: Some games don't have silver leagues yet. Check out the leaderboard on the front pages to identify
ImSeaFu: Cyborg uprising seems interesting, I'm just not really sure where to start with that xD
eulerscheZahl: there's a tutorial on that one..
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/ghost-in-the-cell---guide
ImSeaFu: cool I'
ImSeaFu: I'll have a read
ImSeaFu: If this is your very first experience with bot programming on CodinGame, it is recommended to look into Coders Strike Back game first.
ImSeaFu: lol
5DN1L: Coders Strike Back means Mad Pod Racing
ImSeaFu: does the pod racing count? or should I go to coder strike back??
5DN1L: the original name
ImSeaFu: Ohhh
ImSeaFu: lol
ImSeaFu: Ohhh and this game used to be called Ghost in the Cell? :P
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: some more strategies on cyborg uprising: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/ghost-in-the-cell-feedback-strategy/2634
Shivzee: shortest mode succs
Shivzee: reverse and fast are best
Shivzee: agree with me
ImSeaFu: NEVER!
Shivzee: remove shortest mode
Shivzee: "NEVER!" -> Python kids
Shivzee: lmfao
ImSeaFu: idk what I'm arguing but I am not gonna trust someone on the internets :P
ImSeaFu: Lol I assure you I am not a kid nor am I someone who is going to beat you xD
Shivzee: nah bro in shortest mode python alwasys wins
Shivzee: always*
ImSeaFu: Maybe it's because python is a strong language? Sounds like more of a reason to use it xD
NeelD31: yes
NeelD31: python is concise
NeelD31: but haskell wins a lot of the time too
NeelD31: @ImSeaFu if you want to get into competitive programming you should learn C++ as it is much faster than python due to the fact it is a compiled language
KiwiTae: if u wanna beat python learn ruby
ImSeaFu: Naw that's not my goal. I am just trying to learn and test myself xD
cmodii: lua ftw
abt8601: And I've seen Bash and Perl win shortest CoC
Magmi: I also want the shortest mode to be removed
Magmi: succs bad
Magmi: or better, separated
Ayza: most of the time ruby/python users win shortest
Ayza: really depends on the language
MAWAAW: actually bash seems the best in shortest
MAWAAW: even ruby or perl are better than python
Magmi: ruby is best for short
abt8601: It really depends on the problem
abt8601: I have won shortest CoC with Haskell several times
AlejoT: Hi
jacek: :upside_down:
yamen_malik: my first contribution:
codingame.com/contribute/view/94866ec53bd72404d9327c565e6de1abf5bf
yamen_malik: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/94866ec53bd72404d9327c565e6de1abf5bf
ycsvenom: assembly is best for performance
martinpapa69: not, rust is the best
eulerscheZahl: a sine wave is more round at the top and bottom
struct: well you still need to know the language well enough to get the most performance out of it
struct: and also know what you are doing
eulerscheZahl: and a smart algo in a slow language can beat dumb in fast
ycsvenom: you can solve any problem in any language (even if you don't know the language) not in effiect way according to that language
struct: Does the same applies to haskell?
ycsvenom: i never tried it but i think so
ycsvenom: in the end the programmer is a translator of human thoughts
so if you understand the idea you can program it in any language (again not efficiently)
5DN1L: ycsvenom, try haskell 😈
martinpapa69: you can even work at nasa if you know haskell
ycsvenom: i am looking at it right now on tutorialspoint
Jcodefox: I tried haskell for the first time just the other day
Jcodefox: and by "tried out" I mean I only took the tutorial on the official site
struct: I only needed to look at its syntax to quit
ycsvenom: yeah
ycsvenom: `rem` for reminder(modulo) :grimacing:
5DN1L: haskell has mod
ycsvenom: % this?
5DN1L: nope
ycsvenom: mod this?
5DN1L: mod and rem :D
ycsvenom: cool
5DN1L: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5891140/difference-between-mod-and-rem-in-haskell
AdemDj12: i dont think i can switch to funtional at this point
5DN1L: haskell damages my brain
ycsvenom: if i made a language in the future i will make operator for string like this
str0 - str1 = str0.replace(str1,)
str0 / str1 = str0.split(str1)
and multiplication for repeation and addtion for concatination
ycsvenom: it is reasonable operators in my opinion
martinpapa69: i think you can do "string" * 3 in python already
Mindarius: yeah
ycsvenom: i know
Mindarius: other languages have repeats too, but they're a little more clunky
ycsvenom: that's why i didn't write it down
DFcourier: :sweat_smile:
ycsvenom: @5DN1L
@struct
what do you think of those string operators?
5DN1L: the ones you proposed?
DFcourier: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
ycsvenom: yes
5DN1L: I've got used to + and * for string concatenation and multiplication. - and / for string replacement and string split is an interesting choice
eulerscheZahl: sed uses s/old/new for replace
Mindarius: By his design, - is just a regex removal, not replacement
5DN1L: ah right
Mindarius: I like the choices, but I'm not sure how much I'd use them
ycsvenom: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bd0f27af-0788-4771-ad3f-a420ca064471
ycsvenom: why it has done that
is it a bug?
5DN1L: 5 lines -> pastebin
StraumliPerversion: 38 people solved random walk in the first 24 hours, not too shabby
StraumliPerversion: it is obviously beloved by all
jacek: 3.7 eh
jacek: Automaton2000 do you even code
Automaton2000: like when i say that as a yes
ycsvenom: Automaton2000 do you like playing games?
Automaton2000: that's actually a good thing
ycsvenom: Automaton2000 what is the good thing?
Automaton2000: i need to change your nick
ycsvenom: Automaton2000 i will change yours first
Automaton2000: it's possible to get a better understanding of it
ycsvenom: AutomatonNN do you know anything about that?
jacek: nyoro~n
eulerscheZahl: solved your puzzle StraumliPerversion. somehow i have the impression that auto-publish isn't working for me anymore
eulerscheZahl: can you see it?
jacek: you solved the clash?
eulerscheZahl: the puzzle that looked so easy i didn't even bother switching the language back to C# first
eulerscheZahl: had it at python from hardcoding "code keeper", my replay parser was python
StraumliPerversion: eulerscheZahl, no I don't see it
5DN1L: ycsvenom, now that I think again, maybe using - for trimming/stripping is a good idea too? you can even extend it to - for all-trim, -< for left-trim, >- for right trim :joy:
ycsvenom: thats brilliant :joy::joy:
Raf22: lmaaaaaaaaoooooo yes
eulerscheZahl: unpublishing and republishing did the trick
whylikethat: how come when I flush, the poo goes then comes back?
eulerscheZahl: doesn't matter for this particular solution but i don't understand why the auto-publish doesn't work for me anymore in the first place
StraumliPerversion: ah, great. I'd give you an upvote but... you know
eulerscheZahl: i don't want one, boring code
5DN1L: whylikethat first warning, if you say nonsense here you'll be kicked out https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
StraumliPerversion: it isn't just you, it has been happening for a while now even with manual publish
5DN1L: has a bug been reported?
eulerscheZahl: sometimes i wonder what code change in what architecture you have to perform to accidentally break such a feature
StraumliPerversion: lots of people in the events said they published but nothing ever showed
eulerscheZahl: i reported it a few months ago
5DN1L: oh ok
eulerscheZahl: i'm not on CG discord anymore, no idea what happened
eulerscheZahl: well, they did something and the solution i complained about got published
eulerscheZahl: just looks like it didn't completely fix the underlying issue
StraumliPerversion: they had a problem when ranking solutions was added (unpublished code started showing sometimes), probably touched something
eulerscheZahl: ah, good point
ycsvenom: anyone has any thoughts about longest common substring problem
i tried to do it but the result code was O(n^3)
ycsvenom: i tried DP too but it is really heavy on the memory
eulerscheZahl: responsive design at its best
https://imgur.com/a/yNkhC5l
ycsvenom: LOOOOOOOOOL
eulerscheZahl: as the name implies: that's a common problem. so there's a wikipedia article about it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_common_subsequence_problem
eulerscheZahl: linked the wrong one - but it has a link to the substring at the top
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_common_substring_problem
ycsvenom: i tried it
but it's really heavy on memory
DannyRocko: hey yall
DannyRocko: hi
ycsvenom: espeicially when you have 1MiB strings
ycsvenom: you to store 1GiB of memory for it
eulerscheZahl: did you read the bottom section about reducing memory?
eulerscheZahl: "Keep only the last and current row of the DP table to save memory"
ycsvenom: i didn't
thanks
VizGhar: Are there any puzzles here, that are np complete but input is so small you can solve it by bruteforcing it?
VizGhar: looking for ideas for my students
VizGhar: I remeber something that resembles knapsack, but not sure what the puzzle was exactly
StraumliPerversion: drug interactions?
eulerscheZahl: was about to suggest that one
VizGhar: :thumbsup:
StraumliPerversion: heh heh, look at those 2 1-stars. It used to be 3
eulerscheZahl: 2 french stars?
StraumliPerversion: yup
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/neighbor-sum-grids
i think this is NP complete too
eulerscheZahl: sudoku is. we have sudoku here
eulerscheZahl: nonogram solver
GibMirRechte: hello guys
GibMirRechte: <3
eulerscheZahl: not sure about NP completeness of https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/dumbbells-solver
StraumliPerversion: my personal favorite https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/shikaku-solver
VizGhar: By anonymous CodinGamer 199th overall :P
VizGhar: thank you guys, I'll have a look into those
eulerscheZahl: been unknown for quite some time already. my DB doesn't know it either
5DN1L: dumbbells and sudoku can both be treated as exact cover problems
StraumliPerversion: don't tell anyone I wrote it or the 1-stars will show up
eulerscheZahl: wasn't sure if it can be reduced to minimal matching. i don't even remember the task exactly
HarryYo: can someone tell me how do I execute the makefile in mac
HarryYo: I know it's weird but please
dependentmadani: @HarryYo which programming language are you working with?
HarryYo: c++
HarryYo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/42994912-a7c1-421f-8434-134ead49098d
HarryYo: this is the makefile
HarryYo: I don't know I bought it from a person now he isn't replying
HarryYo: it doesn't display any output can you please help me out
jacek: the file is Makefile?
jacek: just type make in console in the path with it
HarryYo: yes i did
HarryYo: But there's no output
HarryYo: I was thinking if there's a command to execute like with gcc compiler there's ./a.out
jacek: was any file created?
HarryYo: I am doing it for a client and I don't have a mac it's windows I can't check anymore used teamviewer to log in
HarryYo: can I add you on discord?
HarryYo: Could you help me
HarryYo: do you have a mac can you run it on your linux environment please?
5DN1L: if you're doing it for a client I don't think it's appropriate to share it with others
HarryYo: It's not confidential or anything
HarryYo: It's a university assignment which we bought from a person
HarryYo: If it would have been confidential I would have asked help from my dad. Right now he is out of city and out of my reach too
HarryYo: Otherwise would have asked him for sure
5DN1L: I think we can't help you here.
HarryYo: ok thnks np
icecream17: with trolls vs castles, I wonder if there's a better ranking system
Justin_Lowry: that moment when you realize that u can only code lua well if its roblox api
NeelD31: is python golfer allowed or considered cheating?
NeelD31: for clash of code
Justin_Lowry: like for least lines id assume cheating
ycsvenom: the shortest mode is counting characters not bytes
so not cheat
and the goal is to make the code as short as possible
Justin_Lowry: i just spent 11 minutes working something out and then realized i can do a 3 line answer
Justin_Lowry: ayeee new fastest time for a solve
struct: eulerscheZahl are you up just for at coder?
paatt: scanf("%[^\n]" what does it mean anyone?
struct: scan everything until \n
struct: \n = new line
paatt: thanks!
ilf: some problems here are unfair, and python always has advantages
